[00:04] Hm, it seems that VLC in the repo relies on older versions of the libavutil (.so.49) and libx264 (.so.67) [00:05] My own fault I guess :) [00:10] can any automake wizard tell me why this doesn't work: http://friendpaste.com/53vuWdxjX0LZlpvqqKYMZl ?? [00:10] sorry, that's http://friendpaste.com/53vuWdxjX0LZlpvqqKYMZI [00:11] ohhh, nvmind [00:11] Gotta put it in configure.in [00:13] peol: theres a vlc ppa [00:14] ActionParsnip: Yeah, it seems it was my Songbird nightly repos that upgraded the libavutil package, which broke vlc's dependency [00:14] It's working now [00:14] sweet [00:16] Hi, can anyone help me to report this bug to Network Manager ? [00:18] !bug [00:18] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [00:20] ActionParsnip: it is not about running ubuntu-bug nothing crashed, I want help to describe the problem [00:22] aboSamoor: use real simple language to keep it clear === FOAD_ is now known as FOAD [00:29] have a bit of a n00b question, but exactly where on launchpad is the best place to see all karmic bugs reported? i'm wondering what the status of compiz is and whether i should be reporting the issue i'm seeing [00:33] Does anyone have any idea why my theme doesn't apply when I login to my desktop, when I go to System->Preferences->Appearance it gets applied instantly, but not when logging in [00:34] .xsession-errors: http://pastebin.com/m1b5bd11c [00:34] peol: not sure. my theme applies correctly. is it reverting to the default theme/background on login? [00:35] The title bars gets applied, but nothing else. The rest is gray (not the Human default theme) [00:35] I would debug it myself but I've no idea where to start [00:36] if you can check bug 430551 for any missing logs. [00:36] Launchpad bug 430551 in network-manager "802.1X fails with assertions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430551 [00:37] peol: are you running compiz or metacity? [00:37] first thing i usually have to do on boot is kill off compiz [00:37] Hi, I'm having peoblems with the audio output on my Dell XPS laptop running Ubuntu Karmic. The sound quality is AWFUL unless the volume is really low. Works 100% perfectly in Windows. [00:38] obolisk27, can you describe what the audio is doing? [00:38] CydeSwype: Compiz, but it's working and not crashing. The odd thing of it all is that it automatically applies the theme when I go into Appearance, no idea what it triggers [00:38] crackling... [00:38] It gets staticy. But I can still hear words, etc. It sounds really bad... [00:38] Crackling too. [00:39] peol, when appearance first loads up, i do think it does a reset (the same way it does a live change when you click a new background/theme) so that part makes sense to me (fixing it on loading appearance) but not the initial issue [00:39] CydeSwype: It seems it doesn't apply all my settings either, the mouse is really responsive compared to my own settings (which also gets applied when going into Appearance) [00:39] I can get you guys the lshw output... sec. [00:39] i'd open a bug and pop appearance into the startup programs as a workaround [00:40] How do I output a command to a file? [00:40] foo > bar.txt [00:40] thx [00:40] CydeSwype: I would, but I've no idea what package it might be that causes it. Is there any obscure log files anywhere I can check? [00:41] i've seen a lot of audio issues coming across launchpad/updates but haven't had any issues myself (i'm on a dell latitude d820) [00:41] http://pastebay.com/57860 [00:41] Inspiron XPS Gen2. [00:41] peol: not sure. that's beyond me. you can still log a bug and someone will ask for the right log file [00:42] The sound quality is SO bad that I actually have to go on IRC to get it fixed :/ [00:42] Sound improves at lower volumes [00:42] But it can sound perfect at high volumes on windows [00:43] obolisk27, you're not running an alpha of windows ;^) [00:43] No, but Windows XP is ancient. [00:43] Should've been fixed in Ubuntu by now [00:44] are you running karmic obolisk27? [00:44] Yes. [00:44] wow, 9.10 beta this thursday already [00:44] Alpha 6 [00:44] have you run jaunty or previous versions and was audio an issue then? [00:45] thiebaude: "already?" karmic's scheduled for release in like 30 day [00:45] I never tried Ubuntu before. My friend installed it for me because I couldn't figure it out [00:45] s [00:45] pwnguin, yep, i know [00:45] I'm a Windows user. [00:45] compiz is awesome [00:45] I like Ubuntu, but I want it to just work like Windows does on every machine I use. [00:45] obolisk27, welcome to ubuntu, but i'd advocate installing jaunty for a new user [00:46] if you're getting a first impression of a new OS, it's only fair to play with a stable build [00:46] My friend said something about an Alpha release and it would be better than Jaunty when the Beta comes out [00:46] obolisk27, its still being developed [00:46] in ubuntu land, alpha really means alpha, and there's bound to be issues pre-release. audio would likely work by release day [00:46] Any ideas on how I can fix my audio? [00:47] I like the new look in Karmic too... I've seen what Jaunty looks like. [00:47] obolisk27, karmic does have some very cool features, but the upgrade from jaunty to karmic should be pretty easy. audio simply may not work for your sound card at the moment as ubuntu is moving to the newest release and big changes cause regression [00:48] Are there any drivers I can install from Dell? That's how I fixed everything in Windows [00:49] obolisk27, what sound card do you have? [00:49] not sure... I uploaded lshw output to pastebay [00:49] http://pastebay.com/57860 [00:50] so, if I'm running the latest alpha and I don't have libstdc++5 in the repository (replaced by libstdc++6) and a program requires libstdc++5, whats the recommended path of action? [00:50] I think he said he installed all the updates I needed when he installed the OS on my laptop... so I should have the latest drivers, right? [00:51] h00k_: I think you gota update the package [00:53] Oh, before I forget, what Anti-Virus software should I use? [00:54] ChogyDan1: the problem is -- its not a package I can update. [00:54] h00k_: what is it? [00:55] does anyone have the problem where the firefox 3.5.3 search bar doesn't work? [00:55] ChogyDan1: its Americas Army 2.5/0 [00:55] .0 [00:55] aprilhare: Sometimes, but it seems to be random. [00:56] when i installed, i didn't think it was quite this buggy :) it even didn't autoboot into X11 today. had to ctrl-alt f7 my way into X11 [00:56] h00k_: wait, is it linux or wine? [00:56] ChogyDan1: linux. [00:57] ChogyDan1: there exists a linux version [00:59] so, I wasn't sure where to go about getting libstdc++5 packages [00:59] h00k_: well, it looks like support is over, so I don't know. Someone would need to change it somehow I suppose [01:01] anyone know what I should do to fix my audio? :( [01:01] h00k_: maybe you could just use the package from jaunty [01:01] perhaps I'll symlink them and give it a shot [01:02] yeah, symlink is a no-go [01:03] ChogyDan1: getting the deb. [01:04] heh, there we go. [01:05] ehh... seems like I'm being ignored [01:10] hi all [01:10] BUGabundo, hi [01:10] i need some help please [01:10] how to enable more than 4 serial ports ubuntu 8.04 [01:13] obolisk27: probably the best that can be done is to web search your sound card, and see if someone has a workaround. But you may have to wait for release before you know it's a real problem. BTW, you will get ignored if noone knows the answer [01:15] Sigh... guess nobody is gonna be able to solve my problem :( [01:16] My sound quality crackles A LOT... :/ [01:17] Should libsdl1.2debian-alsa be replaced with libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio? It fixes my problems with pulseaudio (with a quake base game) [01:18] obolisk27, does it happen only when multiple applications play sounds? [01:18] No... 24/7 [01:18] Dell XPS Gen2 [01:19] Terrible crackling no matter what I do. [01:19] Can barely understand voices... low frequency notes seem fine. [01:19] I did have some crakling before replacing libsdl1.2debian-alsa with libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio, and after a while the sound even completly stop working [01:20] where is the software-sources list? [01:20] maybe not the same problem but it might still be worth a try [01:20] I want karmic in usb persistent, help! [01:21] I have no idea how to even do that :/ [01:21] do you have the universe repository enabled? [01:24] $ uptime [01:24] 20:24:41 up 6 days, 37 min, 4 users, load average: 0.01, 0.07, 0.24 [01:25] I've been clearly slacking on my reboots [01:25] time for another one :) [01:28] Hi, when a .deb has dfsg what does this means? [01:32] http://www.debian.org/social_contract [01:34] edgy: it means it's been changed from upstream to comply with the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG) [01:52] Latest updates break GDM nvidia login for anyone else? Boot just rapidly flashes the text console - no more boot splash - and stays flashing repeatedly (quickly too) at tty1, no GDM [01:55] mbeierl: I had that [01:55] mbeierl: for like 2 minutes [01:55] or 3 [01:55] then it booted [01:55] and life went on [01:55] I was thinking it was maybe a slow compilation of the nvidia kernel module [01:56] but. yeah. just finished with flickering thing like a couple of minutes ago [01:57] pwnguin: from upstream here menas ubuntu people? [01:59] s/menas/means [01:59] durt: still it's not clear [02:06] nemo, thanks - gonna try a reboot and go into the new kernel again and leave it this time... [02:07] edgy: upstream means the original project [02:23] Does anyone else have icons under the System menu? [02:23] it's all blank unless I go to Preferences or Administration [02:23] KnifeySpooney: This was a developer's change. [02:24] drs305: Is this on purpose or are they going to add it later? [02:24] It was on purpose to present a cleaner look from what I've read. [02:24] You find the way to restore them? [02:24] No, is there a way? I prefer there being icons [02:25] gconftool-2 --set --type bool /desktop/gnome/interface/buttons_have_icon 'true' [02:25] That was for the menus I think. For the buttons: System, Preferences, Appearance: Interface > Show icons in menu. [02:25] It could be vice versa. [02:26] It think it's the reverse, but do both and you will have the icons back. [02:26] Ah i see [02:26] that fixed it :D [02:26] thanks [02:26] What did the first one do? [02:27] Some of the apps buttons I think didn't have the icons either. [02:27] oh [02:27] looks perfect now [02:28] From gconf-editor: "Whether buttons may display an icon in addition to the button text." === XDevHald is now known as XDevH[a]ld === mark__ is now known as tntc [02:37] Anyone familiar with the evtouch driver? I'm having an issue getting right click to work. Tap and a half doesn't do anything, nor does longtouch, but hal-device reports that the xorg options are set. [02:38] My touchscreen is an Ideacom IDC 6680 [02:40] i thought hal was dead [02:40] well, it sure seems like it's not doing any good if it's still alive :) [02:40] but if that's the case, how do I configure this touchscreen? [02:40] xorg.conf? [02:40] devicekit? [02:40] udev rules? [02:40] oh. [02:41] i donno [02:41] i use xorg.conf for my wacom [02:41] on 9.10? [02:41] all this running around in autodetection circles [02:41] yea [02:42] does that make me evil? [02:43] dunno. maybe. [02:43] its a gordian not someone else can untie [02:43] knot [02:43] well, let me ask you this: did you set up a full xorg.conf, or just a section for that device? how'd you make that xorg.conf? [02:44] i made it a long long time ago [02:44] from before wacom even had autodetect [02:45] and it's running in 9.10? [02:45] yes [02:45] nice [02:45] dist-upgrade does work [02:45] it's a full conf, because nvidia isn't autodetected and I dont care to break what works [02:48] well, thanks pwnguin === XDevH[a]ld is now known as XDevHald [03:14] I upgraded to Karmic today. The GDM screen is very plain, nothing like the screenshots I see online. Any ideas why? [03:17] Might be because the user did some modifications (heavy) modifications. [03:17] to gdm? I was using the standard Jaunty GDM theme when I upgraded. [03:19] Is anyone else getting corrupt images from bootchart on karmic? [03:19] I purged bootchart then reinstalled and the images still don't seem to work [03:22] KnifeySpooney: I got a good chart at alpha6 [03:38] i just installed ubuntu 9.10 and the only thing i have experienced, as a bug, is that i have sound in console, but not in X. specifically i'm using xorg with awesome, from a command line install.. anyway this can be resolved? [03:38] I got a blue Universal Access (Assistive Technologies)icon in the notification area. Did I accidently put it up there or is that part of a update? If I click it there are 5 options. There is no tool tip and no popup when I RMB on it so I can't remove it. When I disable it in Start Up Applications it still appears. Anyone have that same icon [03:56] * ripps is mentally preparing himself for the deluge of beta users that'll be swarming here soon [03:58] ripps, why? [03:59] test34: usually, it tends to be answering the same question to noobs, over and over again [04:00] ripps, why? [04:00] when is it turning beta? [04:01] test34: October 1 [04:03] Any thoughts on upgrading a semi-production machine to karmic on Oct 1? [04:04] dragon, read topic [04:04] dragon: iffy... make sure to do a thorough test with a livecd first. But in general, it's recommended not to upgrade on a production machine. [04:05] test34: That helps. [04:06] ripps: yeah that LiveCD idea makes sense. I'm getting a bit desperate because of Jaunty's graphics issues. [04:06] dragon: what hardware? [04:06] dragon, whats a semi-production? like for 8am to 12pm? [04:06] has his term paper saved on it [04:07] ripps: amd64, i965 chipset [04:07] and yeah, it has a term paper :P [04:07] intel graphics? I think most of the intel issues were resolved this time. [04:08] easy to test with livecd [04:09] ripps: cool, I'll try a Live.. um.. USB :) [04:09] Big tip: always have backups. [04:09] DanaG: definitely :) [04:09] I always have issues with liveusbs, kernel gets stuck in a loop looking for /dev/sr0 [04:11] ripps: hm, maybe a bad sector causes that. I had that kind of kernel issue using an SD card - reported a bug. [04:11] anyways, I'll test before I upgrade [04:11] thanks ripps [04:11] test34: it's a bad assumption that everyone's an idiot. :) [04:12] gah idk why i'm typing :) so often [04:12] dragon, well.. it was a strange question [04:12] maybe it's karmic's release date getting closer [04:12] anyways [04:12] the problem I have is testing before I update (you would need 2 identical computers??) [04:13] I here Lucid is going to have 2 betas, hopefully that will help get more people to test [04:13] test34: testing with a LiveCD (or LiveUSB) would suffice I suppose [04:14] dragon, updating from the point I'm at (I don't always do a fresh install) [04:14] dragon: I suppose the better question is, do you have the time to fix the system if things aren't upgraded correctly? [04:14] test34: that's a good point [04:15] ripps: good question. In my case, I have a spare machine and enough time to reinstall within a week or two. [04:15] It should work [04:15] But I'll try being patient. [04:16] see y'all later [04:16] cya [04:19] is it possible karmic persistent in a usb ? [04:20] habanany: yes [04:20] create a USB start up disk in System -> Administration [04:20] i just installed ubuntu 9.10 and the only thing i have experienced, as a bug, is that i have sound in console, but not in X. anyone know how i can get sound in x? [04:21] ok, i have win 7 , so ? [04:21] habanany: use unetbootin [04:21] habanany: i'm not for sure it has those options, but it should [04:22] Sorry, USB Startup Disk Creator CLosed Unexpectedly [04:22] i'l try unebootin [04:22] as a matter of fact i can ctrl+alt+f2 log in and be able to hear sound from youtube, but back to ctrl+alt+f7 and sound is dead [04:24] mythomaniac: that is the most bizarre thing I've heard recently [04:24] yes very strange mythomaniac [04:25] ripps, not really used to like that in janunty until recently [04:25] mythomaniac: sounds like pulseaudio problem, in my opinion [04:25] mythomaniac: have you filed a bug on it? [04:25] mythomaniac: well, not the way you describe it [04:25] doesn't flash use alsa though? [04:25] ripps, i installed from command line version, and using awesomeWM [04:26] ripps, i have alsa, plseaudio, and esound installed [04:26] mythomaniac: esound? I thought pulse replaced esound? [04:26] i can bring up alsamixer in console, but not in x [04:27] mythomaniac: what about gaslamixer? [04:27] ripps, in order to get sound in console, yeah i had to install esound [04:27] try installing libsdl1.2debian-pulsaudio (that fixed my sound problems) === bullgard is now known as bullgard4 [04:28] test34, ok [04:28] libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio [04:28] I've never used awesomeWM, does it have somekind sound subsystem for controling volume? [04:32] ripps, no its just really light window manager... it only comes with very few gui option... its a tile wm [04:33] ripps, the beauty of linux, traditionally, is that you can put things together to make the os part of linux match your taste... [04:34] gamix is handy. [04:34] hmm, sound not working on one vt... sounds like a consolekit thing? [04:36] test34, that is a no go, doesn't help [04:37] mythomaniac, you restarted the apps that use the sound card? [04:37] test34, i restarted the whole system [04:38] ok, sorry then.. must be a different problem [04:39] also when i try and bring up alsamixer in X i get: alsamixer: funtion snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or directory [04:40] but again it works perfect in console [04:43] hmm, try aplay -l (lowercase) [04:43] and aplay -L (capital) [04:44] DanaG, the aplay -l states no soundcards found.. while aplay -L did nothing [04:44] weird. [04:45] I wonder if it's a permissions issue. [04:45] DanaG, more then likely... [04:45] what does 'ls -l /dev/snd/*' show under VT and under Xorg? [04:48] DanaG, they seem to show the same, everything matches? [04:52] hello people [04:52] i have problems with usb [04:52] with all usb device [04:53] in karmic, i need insert the devices before start ubuntu [04:55] DanaG, but what i get is crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 11, 7 (numbers descend for each /dev/* with last number being 2) 2009-09-28 /dev/snd/controlCO, /dev/sndpcmC0D0c, devsnd/pcmC0D0p. /dev/snd/pcmC0D1p, /dev/snd/seq, /dev/snd/timer; /dev/snd/by-path: total 0; lrwrxwrxwx 1 root root 12 2009-09-28 22:34 pci-0000:00:07.0 -> ../controlC0 [04:55] hmm, are you in the audio group? [04:56] DanaG, i should be if i can listen to sound in console, no? [04:56] yeah, most likely a consolekit or policykit thing? [04:58] DanaG, but what is the command again to list groups a user is in? ;) [04:58] "group" [04:58] yeah, not plural. oddd. [05:00] DanaG, it states, no command 'group' found did you mean command 'groupd' from package 'cman (main) command 'groups' from package 'coreutils' main [05:04] DanaG, strange thing is when i being up pulseaudio volume control up i can see the sound being played for each speaker, but i get no sound, when i play a youtube video [05:04] hmm, that is really weird. Is it "null" sink, or real output? [05:04] dtchen might be able to provide some insight, also. [05:07] DanaG, its says dummy output, show all output devices... [05:07] hey. i have booted into drop bear a couple of times now and except for the first time, i end up at a terminal display and not in X11. - to access X11, I find myself having to press ctrl-alt-F7 - is there a way to deal with this behaviour? [05:07] ah, so yeah, something's screwed up.' [05:07] waitaminute... besides "no such devices", did aplay -l give any "spew" (that is, errors)? [05:08] DanaG, only thing i got from doing aplay -l was: aplay: device_list223: no soundcards found... [05:09] err aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found... [05:09] Weird. I'm not sure where to go from there. [05:09] you could try to "strace" it, to see if it gets "permissinon denied". [05:09] 2>&1 strace aplay -l >& strace.log [05:10] DanaG, but in console i get my sound card listed from the command in play back and subdevice [05:15] DanaG, give me a sec, i'll post the output to pastebin... [05:20] DanaG, the url of the output can be found at http://pastebin.com/m468d16cb [05:21] open("/dev/snd/controlC0", O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) [05:21] aah, exactly. [05:21] DanaG, so good we are getting somewhere then ;) [05:22] futex(0x7fff1333d93c, 0x189 /* FUTEX_??? */, 1, NULL, 7fe2023796f0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) [05:22] What package(s) should I file a bug under, if "azureus" and "eclipse-jdt" are incompatible? The Java VM package I use, Azureus, Eclipse, or both, or all? [05:22] hmm, I'm not sure what that is. [05:22] DanaG, would you like to compare that with the output i get from console? [05:23] no, should be same as before. no cards. [05:23] DanaG, how can i get sound in console then? [05:23] [If you want to reproduce this for yourself before I file, try installing 'azureus sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-doc sun-java6-source' on amd64, then 'eclipse-jdt'] [05:23] er, sorry [05:23] I thought you meant "the console output" [05:23] you mean the strace from under console. ah. [05:24] DanaG, yes ;) [05:24] DanaG, would you want that too? [05:24] sure. [05:24] k [05:27] DanaG, the url of the output from console can be found at http://pastebin.com/m7d7643b7 [05:28] DanaG, note it shows my soundcard ') [05:28] yeah, and the futex still gives EAGAIN. [05:28] so that one thin i is a red herring. [05:29] but the EPERM is probably the cause. [05:29] now ti fugure out WHY it's doing that. [05:29] sorry, yping while not looking. [05:29] DanaG, its ok, just remember we are getting somewhere now ;) [05:29] Hmm, perhaps file a bug? [05:30] And include the strace output (as attachments with useful names). [05:30] DanaG, hmmm i never filed a bug before :( [05:31] I'm not sure what package you'd file it under. [05:31] perhaps use "apport-symptoms" package to help. [05:31] DanaG, what do you mean, is that a program? [05:31] it's a package. [05:32] ok ill install it [05:33] DanaG, its a debugging tool for crashes? [05:33] hmmm... [05:34] aah, looks like once you install the package, do "apport-cli -f" [05:35] from command line. [05:35] k [05:35] oh yeah, and if you don't already have a launchpad account, you'll need to create one. [05:36] DanaG, ok i better do that now then ;) [05:40] hmm, anyone know how to check how fragmented an ext4 volume is? [05:42] DanaG: an fsck on the volume, or http://www2.lut.fi/~ilonen/fibmap.pl [05:42] unfortunately, fibmap doesn't stop at filesystem boundaries. [05:42] even readonly fscks (-n) work, btw [05:43] I had this script on my machine called filefrag.pl, it recursively used the filefrag utility, but I can't find it on the internets now [05:43] Maybe I just renamed it [05:46] or if you don't mind heaps of output, you can do 'find . -name "*" -print0 | xargs -0 filefrag' [05:46] DanaG: there's a filefrag util thats part of progs. not sure it handles ext4 [05:47] How can I autogenerate an xorg.conf ? [05:47] I want to try some 2D performance tweaks to improve performance on my 1005ha. [05:49] DanaG, when i select option two "other problem" its states, error no package specified, you need to specify package or PID. see --help for more information... err i guess i'll look at the help ;) [05:50] ah, it needs the apport-symptoms package to do the "ask for symptoms" thing. [05:51] DanaG, from the help it looks like that should be "apport-cli -s"? [05:52] DanaG, lol "apport-cli -s" didn't help :( [05:53] karmic-root: 374939/786864 files (3.9% non-contiguous), 2405572/3146724 blocks [05:56] DanaG, hmm i do have the apport-symptoms package installed? [05:57] weird. [05:58] If I do apport-cli -f, it asks for symptoms. [05:59] how can I optimize performance for a 945GM on Karmic? [05:59] DanaG, was i not to install apport? [05:59] DanaG, just apport-symptoms? [05:59] both, ideally. [06:00] DanaG, well they both are installed... and i only get internal storage, other or cancel as options... [06:00] try other. [06:00] home: 457280/3342336 files (6.7% non-contiguous), 10401867/13337958 blocks [06:01] DanaG, yes then it states: error no package specified, you need to specify package or PID. see --help for more information [06:02] ah, that's stupid. [06:02] hmm, I'm not sure where "no-sound" bugs go. [06:02] dtchen: are you around? [06:02] usually they go in linux [06:02] that is, if theyre a driver problem [06:02] though, I'm guessing it may be a policykit or consolekit thing. [06:02] or a udev thing. [06:02] if you can pin point that its really pulseaudio's fault, put it there. but by default? go for linux [06:03] the works-on-vt-but-not-under-X sounds like consolekit, or such. [06:03] ugh, I think part of my slow boot is that my SATA drive has just plain gotten slower lately, somehow. [06:03] yeah thatd be either consolekit or pulseaudio's consolekit integration [06:03] well, it even affects aplay. [06:03] -l. [06:04] but if pulseaudio has exclusive lock on the sound device, aplay wont work anyway [06:04] aplay -l should still list devices. [06:04] well, i think it should get re-routed through pulseaudio... hrm [06:04] morning [06:04] ... shouldn't it? [06:05] uhh im in X, pulse is running, aplay -l does list devices [06:05] (im also in kde, but i dont think that effects it) [06:05] so id say if youre finding a different pattern than that, thats probably not good [06:06] maco, can you bring up alsamixer in ked? [06:06] err kde [06:06] sure [06:06] i cannot, but i'm using awesomeWM [06:06] ouch ouch ouch. HOT laptop! [06:06] mythomaniac: alsamixer doesnt care about your wm [06:06] mythomaniac: itll run in a tty [06:07] maco, well something is wrong here ;) [06:07] mythomaniac: whats it doing instead? [06:07] * DanaG goes to try new kernel with r600 KMS. [06:07] any error message? [06:07] maco, well as stated i can get sound from console, but not in xorg === Guest81631 is now known as kanye [06:08]