[09:26] <ogra> lool, so d-i on vfat wont work ... :(
[09:26] <ogra> unless we add some hack ...
[09:28] <ogra> lool, d-i relies on the link /cdrom/dists/stable pointing to /cdrom/dists/karmic .... vfat doesnt support symlinks so we end up without "stable" in that dir ...
[09:29] <ogra> cd'ing to /cdrom/dists and mv karmic stable makes it work though
[09:30] <ogra> amitk_, the NIC driver still doesnt work (at least in d-i) while i have eth0 it cant get any IP data via dhcp, setting the IP manually doesnt work either it seems
[09:33] <ogra> hrm, k, now it fails in debootstrap "failed to determine the codename of the release" i guess thats additional fallout of the vfat symlink prob
[09:33] <ogra> lool, i think we should consider ext2/3 for the alternate images
[09:33] <ogra> NCommander, ^^^
[09:34] <ogra> you will likely run into the same issue on dove
[09:36] <amitk_> ogra: we did apt-get dist-upgrade with the nic at the sprint
[09:36] <ogra> well, i dont get any data through it
[09:36] <amitk_> ogra: the driver is compiled-in. So I am not sure why it doesn't work in d-i
[09:36] <ogra> behaves the same as with the FEC2 driver
[09:37] <amitk_> where are you seeing FEC2? I removed that...
[09:37] <rabeeh> NCommander: ping
[09:38] <ogra> amitk_, i see FEC1, i say it behaves identically to how FEC2 did
[09:38] <ogra> driver is loaded, no data gets through
[09:38] <amitk_> what kernel are you using?
[09:40] <ogra> amitk_, -102
[09:40] <amitk_> ogra: could you try if -101.9 works?
[09:41] <amitk_> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-fsl-imx51/2.6.31-101.9/+build/1258067
[09:42] <ogra> no, i would have to rebuild d-i
[09:43] <ogra> i'll see if it works with the live image, probably something is missing
[09:49] <lool> ogra: Well we could keep the vfat for uboot and move the d-i stuff to a new part
[09:49] <ogra> uboot ?
[09:49] <ogra> oh, on dove, yes, indeed
[09:49]  * ogra is testing imx51
[09:54]  * lool tries to recall why we have a fat on imx51
[09:54] <lool> Probably because that's the only non-ISO format we supported in cdimage/debian-cd
[09:55] <ogra> yeah
[09:55] <ogra> sigh, usplash without progress is bitter with casper on arm
[09:56] <ogra> they could at least have kept the bouncing bar
[10:03] <ogra> amitk_, FEC doesnt work in the live session either
[10:04] <ogra> i see eth0 but NM doesnt
[10:04] <amitk_> ogra: 'ifconfig eth0 <ip> up' works?
[10:04] <amitk_> besides, screw NM
[10:05] <ogra> ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0 works
[10:05] <ogra> so at least the driver does it ...
[10:06] <ogra> but still, NM has to work
[10:06] <amitk_> ogra: ok. So we need to figure out what NM needs
[10:06] <ogra> it doesnt see the interface at all it seems
[10:06] <ogra> and the interface doesnt come up on its own either
[10:07] <ogra> ifconfig eth0 up shouldnt be needed
[10:07] <ogra> lool, oo.o bug still persists
[10:07] <ogra> :(((((
[10:08] <lool> ogra: crap
[10:08] <lool> doko_: ^
[10:08] <ogra> heh, it still builds
[10:08] <ogra> ignore me
[10:08] <lool> ogra: tss
[10:08] <lool> doko_: cancel ping :)
[10:08] <lool> Loïc Minier would like to recall the message "doko_: ^"
[10:08] <ogra> Started 2009-09-27
[10:09] <ogra> hmm, should soon be done though
[10:09] <doko_> ogra: be patient ...
[10:10] <amitk_> ogra: ofcourse ifconfig eth0 up should be needed. Otherwise the chip will consume power unecessaryily. But it could be that the driver isn't sending the right udev events, or N-M isn't reading them
[10:10] <amitk_> *unnecessarily
[11:34] <ogra> babbage live install succeeded
[12:03] <ogra> amitk_, so can we make FEC spit out a "DRIVER" udev property ?
[12:04] <ogra> ogra@babbage2:~$ udevadm info --query=all --path=/devices/virtual/net/eth0
[12:04] <ogra> P: /devices/virtual/net/eth0
[12:04] <ogra> E: UDEV_LOG=3
[12:04] <ogra> E: DEVPATH=/devices/virtual/net/eth0
[12:04] <ogra> E: INTERFACE=eth0
[12:04] <ogra> E: IFINDEX=2
[12:04] <ogra> E: SUBSYSTEM=net
[12:04] <ogra> NM looks for DRIVER here
[12:23] <amitk_> ogra: I guess we can, can I have a bug please to submit the fix against?
[12:24] <ogra> sure, still collecting my issues here :)
[12:24] <amitk_> heh
[12:29] <ogra> amitk_, one other thing i'd like to see is that we quieten down the kernel a bit on imx51
[12:29] <ogra> i have a lot of noise when it inits devices on startup
[12:36] <amitk_> ok
[12:37] <ogra> mainly fb devices
[12:37] <ogra> but also some others
[12:39] <amitk_> must be debug statements in the driver...
[12:39] <amitk_> although, do we care when usplash works?
[12:39] <ogra> not sure we will decide to use it
[12:40] <ogra> so i want the kernel to be as quiet as the others
[12:58] <ogra> amitk_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/281234/
[12:58] <ogra> thats the parts i'd like to vanish
[12:59] <amitk_> hmm..ok
[12:59] <lool> amitk_, ogra: Perhaps this should be tracked in a bug report
[13:00] <ogra> lool, as i said above, still collecting my issues here
[13:00] <ogra> i'll file a bunch of bugs soon
[13:01] <amitk_> lool: yeah. I'm not touching anything w/o bugs anymore. release manager will grab my neck otherwise.
[13:03] <lool> ogra: You could start with filing a bug for the output you pasted?
[13:04]  * ogra sighs
[13:04] <lool> ogra: Please don't file a bunch of bugs for each line though, unless that's what amitk_ wants
[13:04] <ogra> can i finish first please
[13:04] <lool> ogra: Well I thought you were done since you said 13:58 < ogra> thats the parts i'd like to vanish
[13:05] <lool> ogra: Sure, finish your research if you like
[13:05] <lool> .c
[13:05] <amitk_> lool: I'll leave it to ogra's discretion
[13:05] <ogra> i'm just starting with .1
[13:17] <ogra> no ttys :/
[13:32] <ogra> sigh, so many bugs
[13:52] <ogra> why is LP so slow
[14:00] <amitk_> ogra: what a silly question?
[14:00] <ogra> heh
[14:21]  * amitk_ wonders if apt-get dist-upgrade works on the babbage
[14:22] <ogra> use update-manager :)
[14:22] <amitk_> no UI, only serial port
[14:23] <amitk_> what fixes does update-manager add?
[14:23] <ogra> it cares for handling config files, package removals and replacements etc
[14:24] <ogra> dist-upgrade might leave you with a different system than u-m
[14:24] <amitk_> ubuntu@karmic-arm:~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-imx51
[14:24] <amitk_> linux-image-imx51: Installed: (none) Candidate: 2.6.31.101.2
[14:24] <ogra> it should work though but you might have to handle some fallout
[14:24] <amitk_> does the kernel upgrade work too?
[14:25] <amitk_> since there doesn't seem to be a kernel package installed here...
[14:25] <ogra> it did for 100 to 101 for me
[14:25] <ogra> for 102 i already did a reinstall since i need to test images
[14:25] <ogra> apt-get install linux-imx51 :)
[14:25] <amitk_> do you know why apt-cache policy says I don't have that package installed?
[14:26] <ogra> does dpkg -l agree ?
[14:26] <amitk_> No packages found matching...
[14:27] <ogra> well, you used redboot-install and rootstock i assume
[14:27] <ogra> rootstock explicitly omits kernel installation
[14:30] <amitk_> aah
[14:30] <ogra> if you install it, make sure you have a flash-kernel.conf and kernel-img.conf file
[14:31] <ogra> and install flash-kernel and redboot-tools
[15:02] <amitk_> ogra: sample flash-kernel.conf and kernel-img.conf files?
[15:03] <ogra> amitk_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/BabbageImageFromScratch
[15:07] <ogra> lool, my serialtty hack does nothing :(
[15:08]  * ogra will try the rootskel code post beta for it
[15:08] <ogra> what bothers me is that it doesnt even get into the case statement apparently
[15:19] <lool> ogra: You forgot +x
[15:19] <lool> ogra: pushed
[15:21] <ogra> lool, i forgot more
[15:21]  * ogra bangs some nails into the wall with his forehead
[15:21] <ogra> GOD !
[15:21] <ogra> lool, its not installed :P
[15:22] <daniel_ki> the one situation where a hammer would have been the right tool :)
[15:23] <ogra> nope :)
[15:23] <ogra> i deserve the pain :)
[15:23] <ogra> (and i dont even need the nails :) )
[15:24] <daniel_ki> it depends on whether you are masochistic, because if you are, you do not deserve it :)
[15:24] <ogra> hmm, i dont get why it isnt installed though
[15:24] <ogra> there is no reason its missing
[15:27] <ogra> hmm, buildlog says it should be there too ...
[15:27] <ogra> -rw-r--r-- root/root       568 2009-09-28 10:45 ./usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/22serialtty
[15:30]  * ogra doesnt get it
[15:50] <lool> ogra: 16:19 < lool> ogra: You forgot +x
[15:50] <ogra> lool, yes, i was a bit stupid not finding it on disk
[15:50] <ogra> /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/<tab><tab> != ls /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/
[15:50] <ogra> :P
[15:51]  * ogra should retire
[15:54] <amitk_> ogra: are you the one that broke my serial console on dist-upgrade?
[15:54] <ogra> nope
[15:54] <ogra> that was very likely Keybuk
[15:55]  * amitk_ puts back the stick
[15:55] <ogra> the casper hack above should actually give you a serial tty in a live session if you set it
[15:55] <ogra> doesnt touch installed systems
[17:28] <lool> amitk_: jaunty -> karmic?
[17:52] <amitk_> lool: no, karmic rootstock image and then dist-upgrade