[00:49] Is there a guide somewhere for 9.10 ? [00:50] I have been able to make a custom grub2 boot splash and a custom xsplash theme [00:50] how does one set a theme for GDM ? [00:52] 'sudo gdmsetup' [00:53] in 9.10 gdmsetup no longer allows one to select a theme [00:53] no idea then [00:53] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=553250 [00:54] Gnome bug 553250 in general "Where did gdmsetup go?" [Minor,Resolved: duplicate] [00:54] It is a gnome thing really =) [00:54] I see these nice GMD themes on the incoming art work pages and wanted to try them, give some feedback, do some customizations =) [00:57] it's quite late already for the feedback [00:58] Better late then never =) [01:21] it's closed the job for karmic artwork? [07:21] kwwii: there seems to be a bug in the Human theme > http://imagebin.ca/view/p1eyOA.html , notice the text "Empty trash" [09:48] Morning all! [09:48] good morning mat [09:50] rawr [09:52] hi mat_t [09:52] hey kwwii [09:53] mac_v: hrm, in my latest version that is fixed [09:54] kwwii: hey , caught you in time ;) [09:54] lool wants to talk to you [09:54] kwwii: ^ [09:55] kwwii: seems ivanka does not know you have tested the humanity branch and the latest updates [09:56] mac_v: cool, thanks [09:56] btw , humanity dark is here > https://code.launchpad.net/humanitydark [09:56] be back in a few... [09:56] killer :) [10:00] it would be nice if someone fixed theme specs and the panel so you could just have it switch between light/dark icons automagically without having to do stupid things like replicate work... or even better, just recolor them on the fly [10:01] kwwii: hi, I have created the missing sizes of the icons for login screen. How do they get in the login theme? [10:05] jonian_g: they need to go in the humanity theme [10:05] so talk to mac_v or DanRabbit [10:06] kwwii: they have gone already, I uploaded them 2 days ago in bzr [10:06] ? [10:07] ahh, they are already in bzr? which icons are you talking about, exact [10:07] ly? [10:07] computer 64px, session 16px, keyboard 16px [10:08] jonian_g: erm, mat_t just put in new icons for those, iirc [10:08] last night [10:08] jonian_g, kwwii: computer icon should be removed [10:08] kwwii: in case you don't know, I'm a developer of humanity icons from day 1 [10:08] users probably realise they're loggin in to the computer ;) [10:09] jonian_g: cool, hi...nice to meet you [10:09] mat_t: tell cody that [10:09] nice too meet you too [10:09] ya should create a custom add-on to the them. add a 'gdm-' prefix to some custom monochrome icons 'for the panel applets etc in gdm) anf have the gdm hackers change the name of the icons uses in the sources to match ) would look more like the initial mockups that way ;) [10:09] jonian_g: good to meet you. Great work! [10:09] thanks mat_t. nice to meet you [10:10] btw, I just saw an email about OOo icons...does humanity have OOo icons? karmic is still using the human theme versions [10:10] kwwii: it has, I made the similar to the human ones [10:11] mat_t: you mean above the user list? I actually have a suggestion there. create gdm-logo.png (white ubuntu logo like in xsplash) and change the name call in the login window .glade from computer to gdm-logo [10:11] would look quite sharp [10:11] kwwii: if you are talking about a OOo theme, it doesn't [10:12] re [10:13] mat_t: hi.. what about the power status icons? [10:13] for gdm [10:13] jonian_g: right, hrm...what to do now [10:13] * kwwii takes a break [10:15] mac_v: it should not be present in gdm [10:15] mac_v: discussing that on ubuntu-desktop atm [10:15] mat_t: but they would be different from the icons you'v made [10:15] oh ok [10:16] kwwii: are we ready to deploy the new theme? [10:16] kwwii: on your side it's done, isn't it? [10:31] kwwii: ? [10:43] mat_t: the gdm theme? [10:44] mat_t: if you mean gdm, yes...it has been done for over a week [10:44] kwwii: so is Cody blocking it? [10:45] mat_t: dbarth told me he would take care of it last week...if it is still not done you should talk to him [10:45] yesterday he said he would talk to cody about it [10:53] ok [10:53] thx kwwii [11:42] are you guys getting correct icons for notification bubbles? [11:43] mac_v: ^ [11:43] power-related especially [11:43] mat_t: no.. the notify-osd icons are not being placed in /usr/share/notify-osd/ [11:44] mat_t: they need to be saved there , i think this only works for fresh intasls , pitti might know more about thi [11:44] installs* [11:44] can you please file bugs accordingly? [11:44] ok [11:44] thx [11:45] mat_t: he is the one who fixed it... you might wanna check with him , this might be a known issue [11:48] mac_v: pitti doesn't know about it [11:49] oh.. [11:55] so I assume you worked around gdm using the distro default gtk/background settings from the vendor keys by giving it it's own set of keys? (I haven't had a chance to dig through the changelogs yet ;o) [13:00] hi [13:03] kwwii: hmm... the notify-osd icons hwave 2 different icons > the battery empty and the battery low... these two icons are horizontal while the rest are vertical [13:07] mac_v: yeah, just saw your other comment...needs to be fixed then [13:08] kwwii: do you want me to send another two icons? or do you have them? [13:08] mac_v: do you know which ones you want to use there? [13:08] hm , the battery low could just be a symlink [13:08] yes [13:09] kwwii: empty can also be a symlink to the notification-battery-000 [13:09] low to *-020 [13:11] mac_v: yeah, I think we should use 000 and 020 [13:11] simple links [13:13] mac_v: in the end, pitti will have to hear about this, because iirc he has a bzr repo in ubuntu-desktop which I cannot change [13:14] kwwii: you can mention it right? or do you want me to talk to him? [13:14] psyke83: hey, after much discussion with the team, the metacity theme is now too light (ie the window decoration is lighter than the selection color) [13:15] mac_v: I can take care of it, or you can do it...however you want :) [13:15] kwwii: ok, so do you want me to darken it? [13:15] psyke83: also, that made the -clearlooks version look amazingly freaky [13:16] psyke83: I think I have a version ready...getting so late now that we really need to be finished [13:17] kwwii: let me know how I can help... if you send me the updated metacity, I'll fix the clearlooks theme [13:21] the human and -clearlooks themes used very light selection colours, and it was insisted that the metacity stay the dark brown. Now that we have a dark selection colour for human, clearlooks's light selection messes things up. It's not too hard to fix in the theme, I just didn't do it since the metacity wasn't finished/confirmed [13:21] we could also do something lazy - use the new colours in human-clearlooks [13:23] kwwii: imho, the "lazy" option is better, the clearlooks version also looks nice with the new colour scheme (well, I'm using an outdated bg colour, I assume you've chosen better) [13:24] psyke83: you might be right...let me think about it a second [13:25] psyke83: for now, I think I will just use the older metacity theme, the darker one, which doesn't mess it up...it is after beta freeze so I don't think we can get that many changes in [13:26] I will make the button highlights a bit darker and then submit the package for upload [13:26] I have to work on the website before beta as well [13:26] kwwii: that's disappointing :(. The older metacity seems far too dark, imho. That version was designed for a very light orange selection colour [13:27] imho, Clearlooks looks better: http://img121.imageshack.us/i/humanclearlooksnewcolou.png/ [13:27] all that's changed is the colour [13:27] oops, wrong screen [13:27] one sec [13:27] psyke83: yeah, I know...I am running around in circles [13:27] like a chicken with it's head cut off [13:29] kwwii: just take a look: http://img121.imageshack.us/i/humanclearlooksnewcolouq.png/ [13:29] keeping human and -clearlooks consistent helps with branding, too :P. There's your excuse ;) [13:38] psyke83: window bg is too much of a shade of pink ;p [13:45] mac_v: blame the headless chicken ;) [13:45] lol! [13:47] psyke83: meh ... the chicken gave me human login theme , so thats what i'll me modifying and using ;p [13:47] s/me/be [13:47] mac_v: cool. Now all you need to do is enable the compiz negative plugin, and you'll be using a proper theme ;) [13:49] hehe [13:49] I have a new nickname, it seems [13:50] ;) [13:54] kwwii: just say the word and I can modify the metacity to darken the gradients. We can re-implant that head if we work fast... :P [13:55] psyke83: now that I have to do the beta banner for the website, I think I am going to pretty much leave things as they are [13:56] alright [13:59] kwwii: what happened regarding the humanity and humanity-dark? [14:03] mac_v: nothing so far, have to remind them again === d6g|away is now known as d6g [14:17] kwwii: did you have any luck with the scrollbar colors? [14:18] mat_t: yepp, they are now a bit darker grey than the ui bg color [14:18] just trying to upload them to lp but something seems strange [14:18] ahhhh, shit [14:18] deiverged branches [14:18] diverged [14:18] like I need this crap [14:36] zniavre: dude, remind me again of your full name [14:36] bonjour [14:36] bonjour [14:36] real name ? [14:36] and email as well [14:36] for the AUTHORS file, etc [14:36] zniavre at zniavre2048@gmail.com [14:38] cool, thanks...I almost forgot to add it again ;) [14:38] (without Maj cause someone on launchpad take it , im a bit annoyed by the way ) [14:38] kwwii: ok, cool! [14:47] mac_v: can you get the notification icons and make those links? [14:47] mac_v: also, we need to make sure that humanity does get updated by asking again and again until they listen [14:48] kwwii: i didnt understand bout notify-osd...make the links where? [14:49] kwwii: if you insist with lool we can push humanity updates today itself [14:49] mac_v: yeah, he was in a meeting last time I told him [14:49] mac_v: essentially, we just need to add a .links file in the debian dir [14:49] human icon theme has one, for reference [14:50] * mac_v checks [14:51] kwwii: not sure , whats needs to be done :( ... i'll ping pitti again.. === d6g is now known as d6g|away [14:53] mac_v: don't worry about it, I can take care of it...once I find the repo with the icons [15:31] mac_v: oops, wrong channel...the notify-osd-icons-ubuntu package now has links [15:31] kwwii: where can i check that? link pls :) [15:32] argh! lp... is killing me today [15:32] bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-art-pkg/notify-osd/notify-osd-icons-ubuntu [15:32] thanks === d6g|away is now known as d6g [15:37] kwwii: the icons will now be installed in /usr/share/notify-osd/ folder or /usr/share/notify-osd-icons-ubuntu folder? [15:38] mac_v: shit, good point [15:38] good thing I asked you to check it [15:38] also the location is > /usr/share/notify-osd/icons/gnome/scalable/status [15:38] kwwii: ^ [15:38] yeah, just saw that when I built it locally [15:39] :) [15:45] mac_v: ok, updated it...testing it now [15:53] mac_v: do you know if there is an open bug about this? [15:53] the latest bzr fixes it, btw [15:54] kwwii: i dont think there is a bug... unless mat_t filed one ;) [15:55] i just noticed the icons were different when i was checking the folder [15:56] kwwii: I haven't filed a bug [15:56] kwwii: will it help if I do? [16:00] mat_t: let me see if pitti will push it through without one first [16:04] ok === d6g is now known as d6g|away [16:20] mac_v: humanitydark is the name corret? [16:20] kwwii: Humanity-Dark [16:21] you asked for the theme name right? of the lp name [16:21] mac_v: and that has all the humanity icons in it, or just the lighter versions for dark themes [16:21] mac_v: yes, that is what I wanted to know [16:21] trying to sort things out now [16:22] kwwii: only the lighter verions + the scalable icons of the monochrome icons for use in the apps [16:22] scalable color icons* [16:23] mac_v: so Humanity-Dark needs to go on top of Humanity, right? [16:24] kwwii: i didnt understand 'on top'? did you mean inherits? if so yes [16:25] I mean that it needs to be the icon theme which is set, and it should have humanity in it's inhereits [16:25] or else it will not use those icons first [16:25] yes [16:25] kwwii: for UNR its the theme ot be set [16:25] to* [16:26] right [16:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/humanity-icon-theme/+bug/430277 [16:26] Launchpad bug 430277 in unr-meta "random icons are colorful while some other notification-area icons are dark" [High,Invalid] [16:26] check the last comment [16:28] correct :) [16:56] * kwwii heads out for dinner, be back later [20:15] hi! [20:16] hello jessai [20:24] im studying digital art and i wanna make some app using web services but i dont now what exactly, any suggestion? [20:32] jessai: what do you mean with web services? [20:39] Hello all _o/ [20:39] for example a mashup of jamendo and flickr copy left ;), you are viewing pictures and listening music from jamendo [20:41] Thought you guys might be interested in this article as its about getting the gnome clock to match the humanity notification area icons -> http://d0od.blogspot.com/2009/09/karmic-tray-icons-match.html [20:51] mrmcq2u_ -> Wow, that looks fantastic! It would be awesome if the developers added this tweak by default [20:51] jessai: we recently used flickr for collecting and selecting wallpapers for the next ubuntu version. there are some issues on might be able to address with a service that interfaces with flickr [20:51] thorwil, compfight.com [20:51] thorwil, if you mean the hardness of searching cc-licensed images [20:52] jessai: i have to concentrate on something now, maybe we can talk another day. or ask kwwii about it [20:52] knome: that's part of the isue [20:52] thorwil, that site fixes it completely :) [20:53] knome: can it search by CC criteria within a group pool? [20:54] no, i don't think so, unless you search for tags or something. might work with trying to search with the group name [20:55] Does anyone know of a good graphic for karmic Koala - poster worthy? [20:57] MarkDude: the meditating koala [21:00] thank you - I will now be able to make a decent poster for us in California for the karmic release [21:01] cool, show it to the list or this channel when you're done [21:01] and don't forget to put it on the wiki so that others can use it as well ;) [21:03] kwwii - did u contact diegostocco yet? :D [21:03] thorwil: thk!! and good luck in what you are doing =) [21:03] Tell him I will send him some cookies :D [21:03] mrmcq2u_: shoot, nope...I have been quite busy these last days ;) [21:04] I am now working evenings to get all the work done [21:04] understandable [21:06] why is the fade to desktop disabled for login? [21:07] or fading wallpaper i should say [21:07] I was not aware that it was disabled [21:07] is it something you can turn on/off via some switch? [21:10] It was enabled in jaunty in the earlier alpha builds and then I remember seeing in a changelog someplace that it was being temporarily disabled for login, you will probably notice it is still enabled for logging out and back in. [21:58] hi kwwii [22:05] hi jonian_g [22:06] kwwii: I want to ask you if I can fix the emblems for ubuntu one. They have a gap in the middle! [22:07] jonian_g: are they already in the Humanity theme package? [22:07] I don think so, they were uploaded some hours ago in bzr [22:08] edit: 1 hour ago [22:08] they were given to us by U1 team [22:09] jonian_g: then feel free to update them [22:09] thanks [22:09] they need to go in the theme, if necessary asap [22:09] we'll be uploading the final changes to the theme on Thursday [22:10] it is already too late to get things in the Beta though [22:10] I already fixed hem, I just need to upload them [22:10] but first I needed confirmation [22:10] cool, feel free to go ahead [22:11] in any case, no matter whether you will make the cut or not, you should upload them so they don't get lost [22:11] the next time things get uploaded they will be taken care of [22:11] in this case, there is still time [22:11] ok [23:05] http://sinecera.de/9.10-rc-banner2b.png <- ideas? [23:08] ok, the outer white line is too light [23:08] kwwii: are you brainstorming with yourself on irc ? :D [23:08] yeah, its too bright, though [23:08] is that the default wallpaper for 9.10 behind ? [23:09] i find the orange on the top right corner quite aggressive [23:09] SiDi: hehe, it is the only intelligent conversation I get :p [23:09] (my mom always said that) [23:09] anyway [23:09] nope, that is a different bg [23:10] it will end up on the top of ubuntu.com [23:10] so it needs to stand out a bit [23:10] kwwii: what about desaturating the "coming soon" a little ? [23:10] ahh, in the screenshot, that is the final walllpaper, yes [23:10] SiDi: yeah, that is a good suggestion [23:10] kwwii, what about using the "old style" numerals for the version number? [23:10] I expected that to be a problem, perhaps [23:10] hmm? [23:11] VIIII X ? [23:11] nooo [23:11] lol [23:11] IX X [23:11] sorry [23:11] kwwii: the scrollbar bug has a patch on the bug report [23:11] my roman is a bit rusty [23:11] no, not those either :P [23:11] kwwii, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Numerals [23:12] psyke83: yeah, I noticed that today...unfortunately I think it is too late for that [23:12] kwwii: it's kind of hard to read the text towards the right side. It's just a little too bright [23:12] knome: hrm, if I don't use the font for the other part, not sure if it is a good idea to mix them [23:13] kwwii: yes, I understand, but will there be no window to introduce a change to the theme after the beta? [23:13] the grey scrollbars would look nicer with the trough as well [23:13] yeah, without the trough it doesn't look nearly as nice [23:13] DanRabbit: thanks...I was afraid of that too [23:14] ;) [23:14] kwwii: what concerns me is that if the theme update is pushed with the trough set back to 0, there'll be no pressure to fix the bug in gtk/firefox [23:15] psyke83: well, we have to apply pressure then [23:15] :) [23:15] I'll talk to pitti and seb tomorrow about it [23:15] maybe I should just assign that bug to seb [23:15] I'm going to try the patch that was submitted [23:16] yeah, I wonder if it even works :p [23:16] proving I don't use my mac anymore...I forgot where to insert a DVD :p [23:16] it looks fairly innocuous, anyway [23:16] I tried to use photoshop today and was baffled [23:17] kwwii: would there be any point in making a bug upstream, or would seb handle it faster on launchpad? He's active on the upstream tracker as well [23:18] psyke83: upstream would be good as well, but slower [23:18] psyke83: do you have a link to the bug handy? [23:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422511 [23:19] Launchpad bug 422511 in human-theme "problem with new scrollbar in Human theme - GtkRange::trough-border set to 2" [Undecided,Confirmed] [23:20] kwwii: bug #327863 is the firefox issue, and it's just been assigned [23:20] Launchpad bug 327863 in xulrunner-1.9.1 "non-zero GtkRange::trough-border value produces strange boxes in Firefox" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/327863 [23:20] ouch, I just asked seb ;) [23:20] I bet he hates me by now :p [23:20] hehe [23:21] I feel so dirty asking for changes in karmic now [23:21] kwwii: these are changes that matter :P [23:21] lol, and he agrees! [23:21] the thing that people complain about is the theme ;) [23:21] I don't believe it :P [23:21] we need to assign it to ubuntu-main-sponsors [23:22] we just don't understand his sarcastic tone on irc [23:22] he's french, it's part of the culture [23:22] :D [23:22] he still calls me Mr. KDE-Guy [23:22] kwwii: I'll post on the bug with an attachment showing the difference without and with trough, and explain that's why we need the bug fixed in time for final, ok? [23:23] perfect [23:26] psyke83: so I can/should assign the LibGTK part of this to ubuntu-main-sponsors [23:26] ok [23:26] as the patch is against gtk, or? [23:26] yes [23:26] cool [23:26] kwwii: on the phone to my dad, just a min [23:26] it's definitely against gtk (maybe libgtk2.0-0) [23:27] cool [23:37] mrmcq2u_: here is what was accomplished before it fell apart: http://www.diegostocco.com/Ubuntu/DS_UBU_LIN_LOT112108.zip [23:37] kwwii: the firefox issue is marked fix released [23:37] ??? [23:37] really? [23:37] yep [23:37] that might be because I changed the trough border to 0 though [23:38] kwwii: I don't think so [23:39] that would be great, if true [23:40] kwwii: that bug relates to the text boxes having a trough, not the fact that you can't click at the edge of the screen for the scrollbar [23:40] ahhhh [23:41] I'll see if I can find another bug dealing with it [23:43] excellent, thanks [23:45] I'm compiling the gtk with the patch as well, just to make sure it works as advertised :P [23:47] kwwii: asac un-assigned the ubuntu-main-sponsors, but changed to medium priority... not sure if that's a problem [23:55] did he say why? [23:56] psyke83: good idea to test it first though :) [23:56] kwwii: he's asking for confirmation from Cody [23:57] wtf? he works on network manager [23:57] I've asked him directly, no worries [23:57] I have the rights to change anything in lp...no worries [23:57] :p [23:58] "Cody, could you check the patch attached and let me know?" [23:58] I guess that means he is looking into it, so it isn't that bad [23:58] and in any case he only lives about 2 hours away...I'll drive to his house and make him include it [23:59] :p