[00:02] <Keli> anyone here familiar with mythtranscode failing with: ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = <somepid>, errno = 32
[00:04] <tgm4883> Keli, i'm not, but that sounds related to a thread I remember reading awhile back on ubuntuforums
[00:04] <tgm4883> IIRC, they removed the .ICEauthority file in the users home dir
[00:04] <tgm4883> but it comes back at boot
[00:04] <Keli> right
[00:04] <tgm4883> i don't know if they ever got anywhere with that
[00:05] <Keli> remving .ICEauthority doesn't solve the issue as it is regenerated
[00:05] <Keli> exacly the same
[00:05] <Keli> I'm having this issue on a fresh mythbuntu 9.04 setup
[00:05] <Keli> I've done nothing to the setup
[00:07] <Keli> this is exacly a description of my problem, from 2006:
[00:07] <Keli> http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2006-August/144712.html
[00:07] <Keli> doesn't work in X, works in non-X spawned shells
[00:07] <Keli> this prevents mytharchive from working for me
[00:10] <ReconPeon> !help
[00:10] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[00:13] <ReconPeon> Hi - I have a Happauge WinTV-HVR 1850, this model isn't specifically listed as supported on http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Tuner_Card, but I was wondering if anyone might know if it will work with Myth?
[00:15] <ReconPeon> Yikes - I just saw a notice that the Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1600 is listed in the cards that do not work section. I'm guess that applies to the 1850 too.  :(
[00:40] <ReconPeon> I just took a look at the IC's on the card: Encoder - CX23417-11Z, Decoder - CX23888-32Z, some other chip hynix HY57V643220DTP-7
[01:39] <CyberKnet> I set up Mythbuntu over the weekend with a PVR-500 capture card. Recordings are flickering, and appear to be recording from the wrong channels sometimes.
[01:43] <CyberKnet> I am unable to get into live tv with the second tuner - although Myth seems to be able to record with it
[01:43] <CyberKnet> shows randomly abort recording early though
[01:43] <CyberKnet> Installed Mythbuntu 9.04
[01:48] <CyberKnet> seeing a ton of this: "MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Error: error reading from: /dev/video0" while recording
[01:48] <CyberKnet> "eno: Device or resource busy (16)"
[01:48] <CyberKnet> in mythbackend.log
[01:49] <CyberKnet> Previously had fedora 10 on this box, and didn't have any issues with the card or cable source
[01:51] <CyberKnet> those two lines are printing the mythbackend log to the tune of 10 per second
[02:05] <foxbuntu> CyberKnet, what version of Mythbuntu are you using? Is it up to date? Please post the link that Mythbuntu Log Grabber generates in here. Have you read the MythTV Wiki article about the PVR-500?
[02:08] <foxbuntu> CyberKnet, sorry about the version number, missed that first time through your question
[02:35] <ToeBee> I'm giving the alpha a try. It installed without any sound libs like linux-sound-base or alsa-base. Seems kind of pointless to install a HTPC without audio support... :)
[02:42] <tgm4883> ToeBee, you don't need those for audio support
[02:45] <ToeBee> hmm well let me reboot the liveCD to double check but I'm pretty sure my sound doesn't work until I install them
[02:45] <ToeBee> well I guess there could be some muting involved. What mixer app can I use if alsa-utils (alsamixer) isn't installed?
[02:47] <tgm4883> use the one in the gui?
[02:47] <tgm4883> it's in Applications > sound I think
[02:47] <tgm4883> ToeBee, IIRC, mine is muted when booted
[02:50] <ToeBee> ok finally rebooted. There does not seem to be any mixer app in the menu
[02:52] <ToeBee> there is no "sound" submenu. Just "Multimedia" which has  various media players in it
[02:52] <tgm4883> ToeBee, sec, let me check mine
[02:52] <ToeBee> oh wait
[02:53] <ToeBee> yeah I found a mixer
[02:53] <tgm4883> yea thats the one
[02:55] <ToeBee> well it seems to have mislabeled the PCM device as "Front" but... ok
[03:05]  * mishehu yawns.
[03:05] <mishehu> ok
[03:05] <mishehu> superm1: you around?
[03:05] <mishehu> got an issue about a bug that you had rectified for somebody back in april
[03:07] <mishehu> pssh dont' tell me superm1 is hanging around down on 6th street...
[03:08] <tgm4883> superm1, is not around
[03:08] <tgm4883> he is out of town
[03:08] <tgm4883> but should be back later tonight
[03:10] <mishehu> did he give any indication how late that might be?
[03:10] <tgm4883> no idea
[03:11] <mishehu> tgm4883: unless of course you know how to fix that issue I'm having with 9.04 and the black screen with mythfrontend and myth-setup
[03:11] <tgm4883> nope
[03:11] <tgm4883> I have to fix -repos anyway
[03:13] <CyberKnet> foxbuntu: Yes, up to date.
[03:13] <CyberKnet> Sorry for the delay - had to make dinner for the family
[03:17] <mishehu> CyberKnet: are you suggesting that the family gets angry if not fed?
[03:17] <mishehu> you must not be running the house properly!  *grin*
[03:21] <CyberKnet> heh heh heh
[03:21] <CyberKnet> already was late ;)
[03:22] <CyberKnet> dinner at 8:30pm??? no way!
[03:22] <CyberKnet> Just noticed there were indeed a few updates for the machine, so I am installing those
[03:22] <CyberKnet> thought I installed them on Sunday, sorry.
[03:26] <ToeBee> heh where do I report a typo on the installer screen? Someone spelled it "centre" :p
[03:28] <ToeBee> wonder if I can find a "colour" in here somewhere too
[03:33] <mishehu> CyberKnet: heh I routinely eat dinner starting at some time between 19:00 and 20:30.
[03:36] <mishehu> thankfully I am rarely the one cooking though
[03:37] <mishehu> I'm usually the cleanup crew heh.
[03:39] <ToeBee> arg
[03:39] <ToeBee> tgm4883: so after I installed from the livecd, I get no sound, even after adjusting volume
[03:40] <mishehu> sorry, you can't arg anymore, it's no talk like a pirate day anymore
[03:40] <mishehu> thought you can talk like a parrot, *sqwak*
[03:40] <mishehu> though
[03:40] <ToeBee> polly want a cracker!
[03:40] <mishehu> s/cracker/finger/
[03:41] <SpicyLemon> In the Mythtv backend setup -> Channel editor, how do I delete a single channel?
[03:41] <ToeBee> sure. They're both salty
[03:41] <mishehu> actually I've never given my parrot a cracker, it's unhealthy for them.
[03:41] <mishehu> those birds live so long because they don't eat all that junk food that we do
[03:41] <ToeBee> heh
[03:43] <mishehu> also because they don't have to deal with computer bugs
[03:43] <ToeBee> indeed
[03:43] <ToeBee> SpicyLemon: hit 'D' while the channel is selected?
[03:44] <ToeBee> at least according to a forum post...
[03:44] <ToeBee> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/323621
[03:44] <ToeBee> I thought you could also do it through the frontend with the info menu while you are tuned to it
[03:47] <SpicyLemon> yup, 'D' did it. Thanks.
[03:55] <ToeBee> I swear this sound card is going to make me lose my mind
[03:58] <orificium_> That's when I go out and buy hardware known to be working in linux :)
[03:58] <orificium_> sometimes its not worth all the aggrevation
[03:58] <orificium_> SpicyLemon: You can also remove channels from MythWeb
[03:59] <ToeBee> but it works when booting from the liveCD!
[04:00] <orificium_> ToeBee: Fresh install? :)
[04:00] <ToeBee> yes, 15 minutes ago
[04:00] <orificium_> So it works in liveCD but not in a fresh install?
[04:01] <ToeBee> I changed hardware on my old install and it quit working (new board and CPU) so I tried the current alpha liveCD and it worked
[04:01] <ToeBee> so I did a fresh install from the liveCD and now it isn't working on that brand new install
[04:01] <orificium_> ToeBee: Did you try using aplay from CLI?
[04:02] <ToeBee> aplay isn't installed
[04:02] <orificium_> Nothing is muted in alsa-mixer?
[04:02] <ToeBee> alsa-base and alsa-utils are not installed by default apparently
[04:02] <ToeBee> and they weren't on the CD either
[04:03] <orificium_> does your soundcard show up in lspci?
[04:03] <orificium_> run "alsamixer" from console
[04:03] <ToeBee> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[04:04] <orificium_> does alsamixer run?
[04:04] <ToeBee> no... it isn't installed
[04:04] <ToeBee> alsamixer: command not found
[04:04] <orificium_> hm
[04:04] <orificium_> sounds like you need alsa installed
[04:04] <orificium_> by default when I installed 9.04, alsamixer is definitely there
[04:05] <ToeBee> well that is kind of weird
[04:05] <ToeBee> tgm4883 was saying earlier alsa-base and linux-sound-base are not required for sound to work
[04:06] <orificium_> Yeah, I'm not sure how that works honestly.
[04:06] <orificium_> You could try insatlling Alsa
[04:06] <orificium_> Can you run alsamixer from livecd?
[04:06] <orificium_> that might be something to check into
[04:07] <ToeBee> livecd didn't have alsa-utils package installed either
[04:07] <ToeBee> so no alsamixer there either
[04:08] <ToeBee> yeah I've been a linux user for almost 10 years I think but the sound layer is still a mystery to me
[04:08] <ToeBee> mostly because until now it has always "just worked" :)
[04:09] <orificium_> Googling SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) turns up a lot of results
[04:09] <orificium_> lucky you :)
[04:09] <orificium_> I mean, turns up a lot of results about issues
[04:10] <ToeBee> hmm wonder if that old P3 has a sound card I could rip out...
[04:10] <ToeBee> yeah I did some looking around before I decided to try the alpha
[04:11] <ToeBee> haha the P3 DOES have a soundcard I could rip out
[04:11] <ToeBee> ... except it is an ISA card :/
[04:12] <orificium_> I'm still dealing with ISA @ the office.
[04:12] <orificium_> Dialogic cards
[04:13] <orificium_> Wish we could get away from it
[04:13] <ToeBee> heh I'm pretty sure no computer I have built since 2005 has had an ISA slot
[04:13] <orificium_> These telephony boxes have 14 slot ISA backplans + like 4 or 5 PCI
[04:14] <orificium_> Mmmm. Guiness
[04:14] <orificium_> Your floaty ball of nitrogen is delightful.
[04:15] <ToeBee> hmm all I've got in the fridge is some local microbrew
[04:17] <orificium_> What's it call?
[04:17] <orificium_> *called
[04:17] <ToeBee> tallgrass
[04:17] <orificium_> What's your locale?
[04:18] <ToeBee> http://www.tallgrassbeer.com/
[04:18] <CyberKnet> updating didn't help - live tv still has issues - not sure what the technical term for it is, but every few seconds it will have a green horizontal line visible on the screen for a frame or so, and the video is jerky
[04:18] <ToeBee> ooh they have a new one
[04:18] <CyberKnet> Thinking of getting my HVR-2250 working instead of trying to use the PVR-500
[04:18] <orificium_> Kansas?
[04:19] <ToeBee> yep
[04:19] <CyberKnet> just wasn't ready for the disk space yet that the 2250 will demand :(
[04:19] <orificium_> ToeBee: How's the Wheat?
[04:20] <orificium_> ToeBee: I'm a big fan of Hoegarden and the like
[04:20] <orificium_> my chair is squeaky.  Wheres the WD
[04:22] <ToeBee> not bad. Lately I've been having the Kold. I'll definitely be trying the buffalo sweat when it hits the shelves. I tend towards darker brews
[04:23] <mishehu> I don't think I'd drink anything labeled "sweat"
[04:23] <ToeBee> hehe
[04:25] <ToeBee> that's nice. I got nvidia-settings to segfault
[04:25] <orificium_> We have some really heavy brews in Downintown, PA by a brewery called Victory
[04:26] <orificium_> They have a 9% alcohol Victory Golden Monkey that's pretty good
[04:26] <orificium_> Doesn't take long to catch a buzz :)
[04:26] <ToeBee> heh. Can't buy that in convenince stores!
[04:27] <orificium_> Hm, the PhillyMythJam is kinda near the ghetto.
[04:28] <orificium_> !PhillyMythJam
[04:28] <Zinn> Join the Ubuntu PA LoCo team on Oct 3rd for a Mythbuntu Mythbuntu Jam. Details at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009
[04:28] <ToeBee> hmm since I'm all warmed up on the blowing-away-operating-systems tonight anyway, maybe I'll try a clean install of straight up ubuntu and see if *IT* handles my sound card
[04:31] <orificium_> Those are always *fun* really long nights for me :)
[04:33] <ToeBee> sure wish my video card would pump out a video signal over HDMI while booting
[04:33] <ToeBee> hmm wonder if it is but my TV just can't read it
[04:33] <orificium_> My Asus M3N-HD/HDMI shows me post @ boot over HDMI
[04:34] <CyberKnet> Hmm... that's one thing I've never had problems.
[04:34] <CyberKnet> with
[04:34] <ToeBee> well I'm using a DVI-to-HDMI converter
[04:34] <CyberKnet> I have also done that without problem on a GeForce 6200 of some variant
[04:35] <CyberKnet> but it might just be that my Hitachi panel handled it
[04:35] <ToeBee> I also have VGA hooked up and I can see POST on that but as soon as it gets to the bootloader the TV says "unsupported signal"
[04:35] <ToeBee> yeah I'm guessing my TV just isn't very flexible in the resolutions it will accept
[04:37] <ToeBee> hmm I need to stay up late anyway. Was going to take down the oracle database at work for a quick fix some time after midnight
[04:38] <CyberKnet> Hmm. I may end up needing to reinstall with Fedora :(
[04:38] <CyberKnet> Not looking forward to that. Mythbuntu was so nice to install.
[04:40] <ToeBee> oh! that's the other weird thing with 9.10 - whenever I eject the CD tray with software or with the button on the drive, it comes out and then goes right back in every time
[04:41] <ToeBee> have to be quick to slip the CD in
[04:41] <ToeBee> like a ninja
[04:41] <CyberKnet> well, I'm off. thanks for the thoughts all :)
[04:54] <SpicyLemon> Anyone know the trick to getting sound to come out via HDMI?  I have an onboard HDMI port. Video's working on it, but no audio.  If I plug in headphones I get audio though.
[04:55] <ToeBee> heh don't look at me for sound answers. I'm having pretty bad sound luck this week :)
[04:59] <ToeBee> huh well sound seems to be working on a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10
[05:01] <SpicyLemon> Bah... and now my frontend keeps freezing.... nothing ever seems to work.
[05:01] <SpicyLemon> is there some magic key combo that unfreezes the frontend when you're watching live TV?
[05:20] <SpicyLemon> well... at least I got the DVD player working without too much fuss.
[05:22] <ToeBee> oh my god... I had working sound with ubuntu 9.10. Then I installed the mythbuntu-desktop package... now my sound is gone
[05:22] <ToeBee> failsound!
[05:31] <SpicyLemon> At least you know there's a possibility of getting your sound working.
[05:34] <ToeBee> heh
[05:35] <ToeBee> well now I think there may be a few weird things going on since ubuntu installed pulseaudio
[05:35] <SpicyLemon> a buddy of mine that is very familiar with linux always complains about pulseaudio
[05:39] <ToeBee> yeah I just tried killing it. Every time I start up mplayer it restarts itself
[05:43] <orificium_> SpicyLemon: I got my HDMI audio working by modifying the asoundrc file
[05:43] <orificium_> quality kinda sucked though
[05:43] <orificium_> so I went back to analog
[05:44] <orificium_> ToeBee: You started from staright ubuntu this time right?
[05:44] <ToeBee> maybe you just didn't have the "good" HDMI cables... you know, the ones that BestBuy sells for $100 for 4ft :)
[05:44] <ToeBee> yes
[05:44] <ToeBee> still 9.10 but just Ubuntu
[05:45] <orificium_> ToeBee: that's the biggest scam in a/v gear.  I bought (2) 10 footers for like $15 on ebay
[05:45] <SpicyLemon> where is asoundrc?  locate didn't come up with anything.
[05:45] <SpicyLemon> I bought a 30 footer for $30.
[05:45] <orificium_> ARe you using mythbuntu?
[05:45] <SpicyLemon> Yup.
[05:45] <SpicyLemon> 9.04
[05:45] <orificium_> let me check on mine
[05:45] <orificium_> I think .asoundrc referencees another directory
[05:45] <orificium_> er file
[05:46] <orificium_> somethign weird they do in mythbuntu
[05:46] <orificium_> I'll find what yo need to put into it too
[05:47] <orificium_> actually, type "asoundconf list"
[05:47] <ToeBee> yeah I got a 3 HDMI for $10. I said something about overpricing to one of the salesdroids at BB and he started spouting about how blu-ray players wouldn't work right over the cheaper ones
[05:47] <SpicyLemon> does it just go in ~?
[05:47] <orificium_> what do you see?
[05:47] <orificium_> ToeBee: Yeah total bullshit. such a scam
[05:47] <SpicyLemon> SB
[05:47] <SpicyLemon> HDMI
[05:47] <SpicyLemon> CX8801
[05:47] <orificium_> SpicyLemon: Type "asoundconf set-default-card HDMI
[05:47] <orificium_> then play something
[05:48] <orificium_> to see if it works
[05:48] <orificium_> once you reboot though it'll go away
[05:48] <orificium_> ToeBee: I think my cheapo ones are even gold plated
[05:48] <SpicyLemon> nothing.  Let me make sure I didn't screw up some other setting somewhere else though.
[05:49] <orificium_> SpicyLemon: try alsamixer too to make sure it's not muted
[05:50] <orificium_> For wahtever reason, in my alsamixer, it shows IEC958 as HDMI
[05:50] <orificium_> and there is a separate volume control
[05:50]  * orificium_ has a love/hate relationship with linux
[05:51] <ToeBee> hmm I have an IEC958 in alsamixer too but it doesn't have any volume controls just mute/unmute
[05:52] <SpicyLemon> it was muted, but I unmuted it and still nothing.  In alsamixer, the only thing that shows up is IEC958, and there's no volume associated with it. Is that right?
[05:52] <SpicyLemon> heh
[05:52] <orificium_> is where my
[05:52] <orificium_> This is where my asoundr cis  /home/(user)/.asoundrc
[05:53] <orificium_> doe st refernce another file?
[05:53] <orificium_> I think I needed to do something liek this http://www.xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?p=406020
[05:53] <orificium_> with the pcm.!default { ....hdmi...
[05:54] <orificium_> asound I believe gets loaded a boot time, so reboot
[05:54] <SpicyLemon> is there supposed to be a closing } in there?
[05:55] <orificium_> aplay -l will give you the card and device #
[05:56] <orificium_> Oh yeah, don't use that exactly.  reference that link
[05:57] <orificium_> this wiki tests it with aplay -D plughw:0,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[05:57] <orificium_> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ALSA
[05:57] <orificium_> check the section with "HDMI output does not work
[05:57] <orificium_> that's very similar to what I did
[05:57] <orificium_> in mythbuntu
[05:57] <orificium_> but the asound file may be diffeerent
[05:58] <SpicyLemon> I think I tried that before and got something about it not being able to figure out how many channels to use.
[05:59] <orificium_> did you try the aplay commmand?
[06:00] <SpicyLemon> yeah, the aplay command. Hang on though, I just rebooted, let me try it again.
[06:00] <SpicyLemon> woo! I heard it.
[06:00] <orificium_> ok
[06:01] <orificium_> so you just need to modify asound approrpriately
[06:01] <orificium_> what does .asoundrc reference in the /home/(user) directory
[06:01] <SpicyLemon> /home/{user}/.asoundrc.asoundconf
[06:01] <orificium_> ok so sudo nano .asoundrc.asoundconf
[06:01] <orificium_> oh yeah
[06:02] <orificium_> what does aplay -l
[06:02] <orificium_> give you
[06:02] <orificium_> is HDMI on device 3?
[06:02] <orificium_> LinkedIn should die
[06:02] <orificium_> I hate getting invites from that site.
[06:02] <SpicyLemon> HDMI is card 1 device 3
[06:03] <orificium_> ok so "sudo nano /home/(user)/.asound.asoundconf"
[06:03] <orificium_> and at the bottom
[06:03] <orificium_> or if there is an pcm.!default
[06:04] <SpicyLemon> there is a line at the top:
[06:04] <orificium_> make it type plug (newline) slave.pcm { (newline) type hw (newline) card 1..e.tc.
[06:04] <orificium_> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ALSA
[06:04] <SpicyLemon> !defaults.pcm.card HDMI
[06:04] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about defaults.pcm.card HDMI
[06:04] <orificium_> reference that
[06:04] <orificium_> Hm, not sure about the HDMI
[06:05] <orificium_> but  % cat /etc/asound.conf
[06:05] <orificium_>  pcm.!default {
[06:05] <orificium_>       type plug
[06:05] <orificium_>       slave.pcm {
[06:05] <orificium_>               type hw
[06:05] <orificium_>               card 0
[06:05] <orificium_>               device 3
[06:05] <orificium_>       }
[06:05] <orificium_>  }
[06:05] <orificium_> make it that except card 1
[06:05] <SpicyLemon> gotcha
[06:05] <SpicyLemon> and is there an easier way to reload that than rebooting?
[06:05] <orificium_> I've heard that sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reboot might work
[06:06] <orificium_> Anyone watch "Mad Men"?
[06:06] <orificium_> sure won a lot of emmys
[06:06] <orificium_> I'm inclined to watch it
[06:07] <SpicyLemon> I never got around to it.
[06:08] <SpicyLemon> I never know when anything's on.  heh, I might get around to it once mythtv's all set up here.
[06:08] <orificium_> mythtv + tv torrents = happiness
[06:10] <SpicyLemon> woo! it worked in vlc after the reboot. Now I just need to un"fix" my mythtv settings.
[06:12] <SpicyLemon> and yahtzee on the TV too!
[06:12] <SpicyLemon> thank you so much.
[06:12] <orificium_> HEH
[06:12] <orificium_> glad it worked out.
[06:13] <orificium_> I think mythtv can be set to the PCM as well.
[09:17] <directhex> morning superm1
[09:34] <Daviey> directhex: He is in bed
[09:34] <Daviey> (not dead)
[09:36] <directhex> then why'd i just get an email about a mythplugins upload? o_o
[09:38] <Daviey> directhex: over 40 mins ago!
[14:11] <superm1> directhex, it was sitting in the unapproved queue due to beta freeze
[14:11] <directhex> bah!
[14:11] <superm1> so it probably didn't get released until i was long gone
[14:35] <superm1> Daviey, directhex did either of you come across anything like this? bug 438539
[14:35] <Zinn> Bug 438539 in mythbuntu "Karmic Alpha 6 Perl environment is not configured properly" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/438539
[14:35] <superm1> i dont even know what/where that would be set wrong
[14:39] <directhex> superm1, haven't seen those symptoms for about 5 years
[14:41] <Daviey> Good golly, directhex is right - i thought that was well behind us
[14:41] <directhex> now, back then, i got it by installing a kernel from sid on my sarge system
[14:41] <directhex> ehm, libc from sid
[14:41] <directhex> as a result, my gut says "talk to the foundations guys in #ubuntu-devel
[14:41] <directhex> "
[14:51] <mishehu> superm1: your alive man!
[14:51] <Daviey> mishehu: yeah, he's not dead afterall.
[14:51] <mishehu> *ding* bring out your dead!
[14:52] <mishehu> superm1: I'm having this problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/355911 on 9.04 (downloaded from the website 3-4 days ago) with a machine with an ati x1200 using the open source radeon drivers included (*not* the amd fglrx closed source junk)
[14:53] <mishehu> was hoping you might have some insight to the problem
[15:24]  * mishehu listens to the crickets chirping
[15:25] <mishehu> I guess he went to work :-/
[16:03] <superm1> mishehu, two solutions, 1 switch to to 0.22 (doesn't happen with QT4)
[16:03] <superm1> 2, there is an environment variable to set in /etc/default/mythtv-session or so
[16:03] <superm1> i think it was in bug 351958
[16:06] <superm1> er no, it's not that one
[16:06] <superm1> it's this one: http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/341898
[16:16] <mishehu> superm1: 0.22 is in 9.10a6?
[16:16] <superm1> Yes
[16:17] <mishehu> superm1: is 9.10a6 still a bit unpolished that I'd regret trying to use it in "production" ?
[16:18] <superm1> mishehu, the problem wouldn't be a lack of polish, but just that potentially updates can break things
[16:18] <superm1> lots of moving pieces and what not
[16:18] <superm1> if you can wait until later this week, 9.10 beta will be happening
[16:19] <mishehu> ok
[16:19] <mishehu> and that's one long bug report there :-)
[16:22] <mishehu> the bug you liked there (341898) doesn't seem to mention anything about /etc/default/mythtv-session, but it does mention some sort of "PPA" packages
[16:22] <mishehu> whatever a PPA is.
[16:23] <superm1> mishehu, the PPA is no longer active
[16:24] <superm1> later near the bottom (the hidden by default comments) have more details of  other solutions
[16:24] <superm1> here's the beta candidate disk if you want to help with that http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily-live/20090929.2/
[16:24] <superm1> mishehu, ^
[16:24] <mishehu> superm1: oh heh, I didn't see it was only showing me *80* of 123 comments!
[16:24] <mishehu> like I said, that's one active bug
[16:26] <mishehu> so basically this disables some eye-candy...  XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS
[16:26] <mishehu> no loss for now.
[16:29] <mishehu> superm1: bada bing!
[16:29] <mishehu> editing those shell scripts with that fixed it, thanks
[16:29] <mishehu> where for I was once blind, I can now see...
[16:30] <mishehu> heh
[16:30] <mishehu> superm1: I see there's some sort of (mythbuntu-specific?) event in PA coming up.  any such events planned in our neck of the woods?
[16:32] <superm1> mishehu, i'd love to get something together maybe after 9.10 launches.  haven't planned anything though
[16:32] <superm1> if you want to help organize/plan such a thing, that'd be awesome :)
[16:34] <mishehu> superm1: depends on what exactly you had in mind
[16:34] <mishehu> though I can't say I have many contacts here in the area, I'm still rather newb.
[16:35] <mishehu> and am a little further out of the city now than I was before - over by lake travis.
[16:35] <mishehu> (what's left of it)
[16:35] <superm1> haha, well hopefully the rain has helped replenish some of it
[16:36]  * mishehu keeps hoping that too, but hasn't seen much improvement yet
[16:40] <superm1> :(
[16:40] <superm1> well once we get closer  to 9.10, see how things are looking and think about putting something like that together then
[16:56] <mishehu> superm1: hell you should see my lawn.  the house was unoccupied for a whole years and the water district shut off water sometime at the beginning of summer because the prior owner stopped paying the bill...
[16:56] <Zinn> mishehu: Please watch your language.
[16:56] <mishehu> somebody has to program that bot to understand context :-)
[16:57] <superm1> haha
[16:59] <mishehu> is satan a bad word?  I said d4mn yesterday and it barked at me, and today I said h3ll and same deal...
[17:01] <rhpot1991> h3ll
[17:01] <mishehu> as we did on the calculators in junior high - 7734 and turn it upside down
[20:27] <Seeker`> hi
[20:28] <Seeker`> people in the UK need to retune their freeview boxes tomorrow
[20:28] <Seeker`> is there a way of doing this with mythtv that doesn't lose the setup for the channels
[22:02] <MadsRH> Hi. Does The Mythbuntu 9.10 have a custom X-splash or does it use the default Ubuntu one?
[22:12] <superm1> custom
[22:13] <superm1> MadsRH, ^
[22:13] <MadsRH> superm1 -> Thanks. Do you know what it looks like? I've been searching for screenshots, but with no luck
[22:13] <superm1> i dont think any of us have done screenshots for them yet
[22:13] <superm1> download a cdimage and take a look! :)
[22:14] <superm1> it should be in our beta candidates at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily-live
[22:15] <MadsRH> superm1 -> Thanks, I just wanted to make sure Mythbuntu had one - if it didn't, I would start working on one asap.
[22:16] <superm1> MadsRH, if you've got some artistic talent, you can probably help make it prettier
[22:17] <superm1> it was just thrown together by plastering the logo on top of the mythtv theme background and adding the little cylon like thing from ubuntu's xsplash theme
[22:17] <MadsRH> superm1 -> okay
[22:18] <MadsRH> You would need something super slick to go with the new awesome UI ;-)
[22:18] <superm1> MadsRH, and if you'd like to help contribute to the mythtv  theme, i'm sure gbutters would be mighty appreciative of some more help
[22:18] <superm1> gbutters is whipping our new theme into some awesome shape
[22:19] <MadsRH> superm1 -> yes, I saw that from the screenshots - look really good
[22:28] <mishehu> gbutters is whipping up the cream into more...  butter?
[22:29] <superm1> something like that
[22:29] <mishehu> bet he's churning away!