[00:12] <Lappy> knome. It looks like it detected it in startup
[00:15] <knome> okay, great
[00:15] <Lappy> But it won't show up in Xubunu, help?
[00:15] <Lappy> Xubuntu*
[00:15] <knome> did you look at /media again?
[00:16] <Lappy> O
[00:16] <knome> O? :)
[00:16] <Lappy> Right
[00:16] <knome> okay
[00:16] <knome> go to terminal and type 'sudo fdisk -l'
[00:16] <Lappy> Just did
[00:17] <Lappy> It says dev/sdb2
[00:17] <knome> okay
[00:17] <Lappy> It's not in /media Though...
[00:17] <knome> with 'blkid' do you see /dev/sdb2?
[00:17] <Lappy> It has Windows 2000 if that's any help...
[00:17] <Lappy> On the hard drive
[00:17] <knome> oh, so it's supposedly ntfs drive?
[00:17] <Lappy> Yup
[00:17] <knome> !ntfs
[00:18] <knome> that's a more thorough howto
[00:20] <Lappy> Okay
[00:20] <Lappy> Found an NTFS config tool in Add/Remove
[00:20] <Lappy> Does that work?
[00:21] <Lappy> In all honest truth I quickly skimmed the page
[00:21] <Lappy> In a bit of a hurry....
[00:22] <knome> i don't know, i have almost no experiences on ntfs+linux
[00:22] <Lappy> Okay
[00:22] <Lappy> Well I'm going to try it now
[00:22] <knome> okay
[00:23] <Lappy> Hmmm
[00:23] <Lappy> How to run it now
[00:23] <Lappy> Not showing up in menu
[00:23] <Lappy> Alt+f2
[00:23] <knome> hmm
[00:23] <Lappy> What's the command though...
[00:23] <knome> ntfs-config?
[00:23] <Lappy> Okay
[00:24] <Lappy> I'll try
[00:24] <knome> i don't know, just guessing
[00:24] <Lappy> Uhm
[00:24] <Lappy> So
[00:24] <Lappy> It would be 'run ntfs-config'?
[00:24] <knome> no
[00:24] <knome> just 'ntfs-config
[00:24] <knome> '
[00:24] <Lappy> Okay
[00:25] <Lappy> Error: This programm need to be run as root
[00:25] <knome> okay, then 'gksudo ntfs-config'
[00:25] <Lappy> Okay
[00:25] <Lappy> Yup that worked
[00:26] <Lappy> Dev/sdb1
[00:26] <Lappy> Just a sec
[00:28] <Lappy> Okay, I did blkid it says /dev/sdb1: UUID= "3618B33D18B2FAC7" TYPE="ntfs"
[00:28] <Lappy> Is that the one? I'm guessing it is...
[00:28] <knome> yes, that's it
[00:28] <Lappy> Okay
[00:28] <Lappy> So Click add then, taking a guess :P
[00:28] <knome> heh
[00:29] <Lappy> Mount Point?
[00:29] <Lappy> What is that?
[00:29] <Lappy> Add a name for Mount Point
[00:29] <knome> that's a directory
[00:29] <Lappy> What should I name it then?
[00:29] <knome> eg. /media/windows
[00:29] <Lappy> Just leave it
[00:29] <Lappy> Okay
[00:29] <Lappy> So like /media/8.2GB
[00:29] <Lappy> Right?
[00:29] <Lappy> Yes I know, it's small
[00:29] <Lappy> :)
[00:30] <knome> that's okay as well, i suppose. i'm not sure about the . though
[00:30] <Lappy> Okay
[00:30] <Lappy> Then /media/windows it is
[00:30] <Lappy> Heh :P
[00:30] <knome> you can always change that
[00:30] <Lappy> Right
[00:30] <Lappy> Because it's a file directory?
[00:30] <Lappy> Ph
[00:31] <Lappy> Oh*
[00:31] <Lappy> You must choose a name, not a directory
[00:31] <Lappy> Okay
[00:31] <Lappy> Windows it is
[00:31] <knome> :]
[00:31] <Lappy> I got one
[00:31] <Lappy> IBM HD
[00:31] <Lappy> There. I'm so smart xP
[00:32] <Lappy> There we go /media/IBM HD
[00:32] <Lappy> Hmmm. Enable write support for external device?
[00:32] <knome> well, if you want to write to it..
[00:32] <Lappy> Enable wrote support for internal device is already checks
[00:33] <Lappy> Checked*
[00:33] <Lappy> There's two options. Write support for internal and write support for external
[00:33] <knome> hmm
[00:33] <Lappy> Check both just in case?
[00:33] <knome> then use internal
[00:33] <knome> i think :)
[00:33] <Lappy> Okay
[00:33] <knome> you can also change that later
[00:33] <Lappy> I can always remount
[00:33] <Lappy> Yup
[00:34] <Lappy> It's all there
[00:34] <Lappy> Thank you so much for your help :D
[00:34] <knome> no problem
[00:34] <knome> have fun with xubuntu :)
[00:34] <Lappy> :)
[00:35] <Lappy> I'll come back here if I run into any dilemas
[00:35] <knome> yeah
[00:35] <Lappy> :). Hopefully I'll be a Xubuntu guru one day :P
[03:24] <homebrewcider> hey there, I'm using xubuntu 9.04 but now I can't delete files, can someone help?
[05:20] <ryguy> are there any browsers that don't rape my cpu? I'm running a 0.85 GHz PIII
[05:25] <Techie> 850mhz should be more than enough for a standard browser
[05:26] <ryguy> you would think so... firefox rapes my cpu and chrome rapes my memory (371MiB)
[05:30] <Techie> have you tried opera?
[05:30] <Techie> thats supposedly lightwieght
[05:31] <ryguy> I'm about to install epiphany-browser, do you think opera would be faster?
[05:32] <Techie> im not really sure ive never used either of them, im just going by what ive heard
[05:35] <ryguy> fair enough, I'm gonna try epiphany then try opera if I have any problems
[05:35] <ryguy> is xubuntu the lightest version of ubuntu?
[05:37] <Lappy> I think Puppy may be one of the lightest...
[05:37] <Lappy> Correct me
[06:09] <ryguy> puppy is a version of ubuntu?
[06:21] <Sysi> not as far as i know
[06:22] <Sysi> it may is based on that but it isn't version of it
[06:22] <ryguy> right
[06:32] <Techie> Sysi, just a heads up puppy is rpm based, not debian
[06:32] <Sysi> well, i don't know much about it
[06:40] <Balsaq> techie: are using web janitor...is that xubu?
[06:43] <Balsaq> i got in 9.04 seems like ccleaner or something
[06:46] <Balsaq> techie: are you using web janitor?
[06:57] <techie_> web janitor?
[07:42] <Paul1957aa> hi all. I think I have a problem with mounted drives and fstab file. anyone here able to help?
[07:46] <Paul1957aa> ok. maybe later then. cu
[10:20] <shai> Hi everyone :)
[10:21] <shai> I just burned my first CD ... and it seems to not go past the "Loading...boot:" stage
[10:21] <shai> I tried burning the CD a 2nd time at a slower rate, that didn't help.
[10:21] <shai> I checked the md5sum , its ok
[10:21] <shai> I'm using VIA EPIA M9000 board...
[10:21] <shai> Could this be a problem?
[10:21] <shai> Ubuntu's netinstall cd that I burned worked fine...
[10:27] <eXoSypher> ey can someone please help me
[10:28] <eXoSypher> ?
[10:30] <ablomen> eXoSypher, not without knowing if we are able to answer it, so ask your question and someone might help :)
[10:31] <eXoSypher> ok well i dug up this old pentium2, set bios settings to default and i installed xubuntu, then reboot i choose xubuntu generic from startup, and now im sitting at 'matt@ubuntu:-$
[10:32] <eXoSypher> but i wanna be at the desktop/explorer
[10:48] <eXoSypher> O.o
[10:50] <TheSheep> any messages explaining what went wrong?
[10:51] <eXoSypher> well nothing went wrong, i dont know what to do from here on
[10:58] <TheSheep> eXoSypher: it did if you didn't get a desktop
[10:58] <eXoSypher> uhm soz i dont really know. awe
[10:58] <eXoSypher> bye*
[13:47] <Pres-Gas> Good morrow
[13:56] <TheSheep> good afternoon
[13:56] <Sysi> good moron
[13:57] <Sysi> wait what--
[13:57] <TheSheep> Sysi: nice to meet you
[13:57] <Sysi> yup, but g2g
[13:57] <Sysi> mate remowes
[13:58] <Pres-Gas> lol, Sysi
[14:40] <ValentineX> When i connect usb, where can i see USB mounted icon etC?
[14:43] <likemindead> In your file manager, Thunar, as well as the "Places" tray. There are several other options too.
[14:43] <likemindead> You can have it appear on your desktop.
[14:43] <likemindead> Etc.
[14:43] <ValentineX> from where what is thunar
[14:44] <ValentineX> opened home, now where?
[14:45] <ValentineX> I do not see it any where, it was fine in ubuntu
[15:01] <likemindead> ...
[15:11] <Pres-Gas> Well, likemindead, at least you tried.
[15:12] <likemindead> No one has patience in IRC. :-\
[17:50]  * AngryGnome yawns
[18:35] <robert0> last night i started to have a problem where any time i'd open a new application the window would close automatically. i rebooted and now it's happening for the login screen and i can't login. it's in a continuous open/close loop. i'm running the latest xubuntu.
[18:37] <knome> robert0, latest == jaunty (9.04)  or karmic (9.10)?
[18:40] <genii> Smells of mis-owned ~ files
[18:42] <robert0> knome: jaunty 9.04
[18:43] <knome> robert0, what did you do before this started to happen?
[18:43] <robert0> nothing that i know of
[18:43] <knome> as genii said, it might be files in your home which have wrong permissions
[18:46] <bittin`> Hello do anyone knows how to do the apt-cache bigger?
[18:47] <genii> bittin`: Can you explain better the problem?
[18:54] <robert0> ~/.. was the only thing in my home dir owned by root. i  chown'd it to my user restarted the machine. and it's still doing the same thing. is there something else i should be looking fore?
[18:55] <TheSheep> robert0: .. should be owned by root
[18:55] <TheSheep> robert0: do you have free disk space in home?
[18:56]  * Pres-Gas wonders if anything is showing up in robert0's logs...maybe from "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" specifically?
[18:56] <genii> robert0: Did you do something like: ls -lah /home/yourusername              ? Because a lot of the dotfiles are in there
[18:59] <robert0> .  /home is 55% used. i manually ls -al every dir... does -h show more info?
[18:59] <genii> Yes, the hidden files
[19:00] <genii> "dotfiles"
[19:01] <robert0> i see those with ls -al . -lah looks better though :D
[19:03] <genii> robert0: So as far as you can tell, everything recursively in /home/yourname  belongs to yourname:yourname      ?
[19:03] <robert0> yes
[19:03] <bittin`> got it to work now :)
[19:06] <genii> robert0: Perhaps install pastebinit    and then show us contents of the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:11] <robert0> i'm not sure how to get the machine on the network. it has a wireless nic. i use the gui network manager :-/
[19:18] <genii> Alternately, you could stick stuff onto a usb stick, shuffle it to the box you're on, then use the pastebin
[19:27] <robert0> i'm having trouble finding a usb drive atm, not my day. fwiw, i went through /var/log/Xorg.0.log the only warning was one about not having cyrillic fonts installed
[19:28] <genii> Anything notable in the auth.log ?
[19:29] <genii> Or possibly gdm.log   seeing as how currently it keeps going back to login screen
[19:32] <robert0> checking it out right now.
[19:38] <robert0> from /var/log/auth.log  gdm[11453]: pam_nolgin(gdm:auth): cannot determine username
[19:39] <robert0> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gdm-list/2009-May/msg00017.html seems to have the same problem but no fix
[21:21] <likemindead> If I download a video in .flv form, how to I get it to play in a DVD player?
[21:21] <likemindead> Convert it first? If so, to what format?
[21:31] <genii> .vob
[21:50] <likemindead> Convert the .flv to .vob & then burn it to DVD, genii?
[21:58] <genii> likemindead: Basically, yes. You may want to look into the app DeVeDe as well
[21:58] <genii> !info devede
[21:59] <genii> It can do stuff like avi/wmv->dvd layouts. Not sure about straight flv though
[22:03] <Ido_> Hello guys, umm, I have a question...about installing Xubuntu
[22:03] <knome> !ask | Ido_
[22:04] <Ido_> It's like forcing me to put a password, is it possible to cancel it after the OS is installed?
[22:04] <Ido_> Yeah sorry, I just thought it was too long for 1 message and it's also the first time i'm in this channel XD
[22:04] <knome> i'd suggest to not leave the password empty. you can choose if the user is loggeed in automatically
[22:05] <knome> but you need the password for administrating your system, like installing updates
[22:06] <Ido_> Hmm ok, and it won't limit other computers in my network from seeing my computer by a password? It's just a password for Admin's stuff?
[22:07] <knome> do you mean if other computers can access your computer without password?
[22:07] <Ido_> Yeah
[22:07] <knome> what kind of networking setup do you have in mind?
[22:07] <knome> you shouldn't really give your admin password to anybody
[22:08] <Ido_> It's a home computer, going to be installed on my old Celeron laptop so it'd connect to the TV and run movies from other comps
[22:08] <Ido_> That run WinXP
[22:08] <Ido_> Which means...regular network, with WinXP's
[22:08] <knome> right.
[22:08] <knome> !sambe
[22:08] <knome> d'oh :)
[22:08] <knome> !samba
[22:10] <Ido_> Oh, thought it was automatically connect-able...anyways, my purposes won't be limited to a password with this Samba?
[22:10] <Ido_> Sorry for the annoying questions btw .-.
[22:10] <knome> actually, i'm not sure
[22:10] <knome> i have used samba very little
[22:10] <knome> what files do you mean to share?
[22:11] <knome> would the winxp machine need to write there or read only?
[22:11] <Ido_> Probably movies mainly
[22:11] <Ido_> Read only I guess
[22:12] <knome> i'm not really the expert on samba, but you might be able to do it without password.
[22:12] <knome> you might ask #ubuntu for the samba configuration as it's not xubuntu-specific.
[22:13] <Ido_> Kay...well bad case, it's like the easiest password, but I hoped to avoid the "trouble"
[22:14] <Ido_> So I can keep it regularly if I choose to automatically connect, and i'll figure out clearly what to do with that Samba thing in Ubuntu's chat...
[22:14] <Ido_> Thanks a lot, i'm going to my other computer to complete the installation XD
[22:14] <knome> no problem
[22:14] <knome> have fun with xubuntu
[22:33] <twocarlo> just installed xubuntu 9 64 bit few minutes ago,this is great and it was ultimately fast
[22:34] <knome> twocarlo, great to hear. the version number is probably 9.04 though :) (9 for 2009, 04 for april)
[22:37] <twocarlo> knome:yeah you 're right to be exact
[22:39] <knome> in a month we will be releasing 9.10
[22:48] <twocarlo> oh ic
[22:49] <knome> well actually less than a month
[22:57] <twocarlo> up to what screen resolution can it support i got 1366x960 but im only using 1024x760
[22:59] <knome> my resolution is 3840x1200
[23:00] <twocarlo> knome:are you using dual s-dvi
[23:00] <knome> twocarlo, yep
[23:06] <twocarlo> that was overkill for a desktop, however still provides infinite excitement
[23:08] <knome> umm, not really
[23:08] <knome> (for both)
[23:09] <knome> when i work i really need all the space
[23:11] <twocarlo> ic then