| aboSamoor | any help with the booting, I have more than a minute booting ! | 01:32 |
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| Ravenkin | I can't even boot, the update nuked something, there's nothing in boot folder so I can only imagine that's it, can anyone help? | 01:36 |
| amason | Ravenkin: this with Karmic ? | 01:40 |
| Ravenkin | Yes amason | 01:40 |
| amason | you may be able to grab one of the mainline kernels. | 01:42 |
| amason | boot from a live cd | 01:42 |
| amason | then chroot into your partition with /boot on it | 01:42 |
| Ravenkin | I tried booting from a live cd and sticking a kernel from this version of linux into and and it didn't work | 01:42 |
| amason | and install the kernel | 01:42 |
| Ravenkin | how do I install the kernel into it? | 01:42 |
| amason | dpkg | 01:43 |
| Ravenkin | How would I do that though? | 01:43 |
| amason | i shoudl be more specific, you will need to mount your / and any other partitions needed for dpkg to function | 01:43 |
| Ravenkin | ok once I get it mounted what would I have to do? | 01:44 |
| Ravenkin | I know I can get it mounted I've done that once already, kind of a pain since it's encrypted, but once I get it mounted, then? | 01:44 |
| amason | chroot into it | 01:45 |
| Ravenkin | k? | 01:46 |
| amason | sorry, i am not a native english speaker. Which part are you having trouble with , I will attempt to rephrase the answer. | 01:47 |
| Ravenkin | I just don't know how to install a kernel once the drive is mounted, what is the command to do that? | 01:47 |
| amason | chroot | 01:48 |
| amason | you need to chroot into your mounted partition | 01:48 |
| amason | then use the dpkg command to install your kernel | 01:48 |
| Ravenkin | just type dpkg though? | 01:48 |
| amason | well no. | 01:50 |
| amason | dpkg -i | 01:51 |
| amason | the commands themselves are well documented | 01:51 |
| amason | i am just giving you the overall process of how you would go about getting a usable system | 01:51 |
| Ravenkin | thanks, you gave me a point to go off of | 01:51 |
| aboSamoor | amason: I have slow booting, I think it is still under development. how can I know when there is any progress so I can test mine and report any problem ? | 01:52 |
| amason | aboSamoor i don't know sorry. I am not a kernel developer. | 01:52 |
| aboSamoor | amason: ok, thanks :) | 01:53 |
| amason | I'm actually in the channel for assistance too =) | 01:59 |
| andersk | Is it known that the kernels in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/ have been failing to build since 2009-09-15? | 02:39 |
| amason | andersk: yeh | 02:57 |
| unixbomber | quit | 03:52 |
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| rtg_ | apw, are you still having fsck issues in your TZ? see comments on bug #427822 | 15:41 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 427822 in linux "fsck says last write time in future" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427822 | 15:41 |
| apw | rtg_ i haven't noticed them no | 15:44 |
| apw | hrm its not at all obvious which version those guys have | 15:45 |
| rtg_ | apw, I was gonna ask 'em to blat version_signature | 15:46 |
| apw | yeah me too :) | 15:46 |
| apw | just checking the one who has a syslog | 15:46 |
| rtg_ | apw, go ahead. I'm working on a linux-firmware issue | 15:46 |
| apw | ack | 15:46 |
| rtg_ | apw, oh, speaking of which, I plan to collapse the linux-firmware repos into one, and just have a topic branch for each release. | 15:47 |
| apw | they are so similar i assume | 15:47 |
| rtg_ | apw, quite | 15:48 |
| apw | and huge | 15:48 |
| rtg_ | Keybuk, I'm thinking about reverting desktop to CFQ with the latest kernel patch 'sched: Disable NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS for now'. Could you do a quick boot test with 'elevator=cfq' to see if boot times regress? | 16:26 |
| rtg_ | you're sort of the rosetta stone for boot times | 16:27 |
| Keybuk | NOOOOOO!!!!!!! | 16:27 |
| Keybuk | seriously | 16:27 |
| Keybuk | leave it at deadline | 16:27 |
| Keybuk | lynx is the right time to experiment with this | 16:27 |
| rtg_ | Keybuk, well, how about switching to CFQ after boot? I think its much better for my workload. | 16:27 |
| Keybuk | no! | 16:28 |
| Keybuk | seriously | 16:28 |
| Keybuk | we're seeing reports of performance improvements *across the board* with the switch to deadline | 16:28 |
| Keybuk | cfq is just fucked | 16:28 |
| rtg_ | Keybuk, agreed, but with 'Disable NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS' it works a hell of a lot better, | 16:28 |
| Keybuk | deadline works just fine for now | 16:29 |
| rtg_ | better then deadline, IMHO | 16:29 |
| Keybuk | let's revisit for the next release | 16:29 |
| kaushal | hi | 16:35 |
| kaushal | when i do sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel on jaunty desktop, I get FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.28-15-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) | 16:35 |
| kaushal | any ideas ? | 16:35 |
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| rtg_ | smb_tp, ^^ | 16:36 |
| smb_tp | kaushal, whats the dmesg? | 16:37 |
| smb_tp | And which kernel version? | 16:38 |
| kaushal | [ 292.500775] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_hw_constraint_step | 16:38 |
| kaushal | 2.6.28-15-generic | 16:38 |
| kaushal | smb_tp: shall i pastebin the dmesg ? | 16:38 |
| smb_tp | kaushal, yes, please :) | 16:38 |
| kaushal | http://paste.ubuntu.com/282250/ | 16:39 |
| smb_tp | kaushal, could you also paste your uname -r and modinfo snd-hda-intel? Its odd that the module would be out of sync with the kernel... | 16:42 |
| kaushal | sure | 16:42 |
| kaushal | http://paste.ubuntu.com/282254/ | 16:44 |
| kaushal | smb_tp: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=snd-hda-intel.ko&mode=exactfilename&suite=jaunty&arch=any | 16:49 |
| kaushal | doesnot exist for 2.6.28-15-generic | 16:49 |
| kaushal | :/ | 16:49 |
| smb_tp | kaushal, Not sure what the search should do but it should be in the linux-image-* package... | 16:50 |
| smb_tp | Hm your modules magic number is like mine (which loads). Just realised uname -r is not what I wanted. :-P sorry. Just post here the output of /proc/version_signature | 16:52 |
| smb_tp | Oh, next thing to look at would be the filename and the srcversion line of modinfo snd | 16:55 |
| kaushal | smb_tp: sure | 17:00 |
| kaushal | Ubuntu 2.6.28-15.52-generic | 17:01 |
| kaushal | srcversion: 2C925CEA7D312E7FA6C0F00 | 17:01 |
| smb_tp | kaushal, Ok, same here | 17:01 |
| smb_tp | but different version of snd | 17:02 |
| smb_tp | kaushal, Could your path be containing acore ? | 17:02 |
| kaushal | /lib/modules/2.6.28-15-generic/kernel/sound/acore/snd.ko | 17:02 |
| smb_tp | As I guessed. Might you happen to have a self/externally compiled alsa ? | 17:03 |
| kaushal | smb_tp: i did install ii alsa-driver-linuxant 1.0.20.3 ALSA driver enhanced for Conexant HDA modem support | 17:04 |
| kaushal | to configure modem on my laptop | 17:04 |
| kaushal | it used to work for -11 generic kernel | 17:05 |
| smb_tp | kaushal, That might be the source. If you can make it recompile, you might be fine. As I do not know the package, maybe just reinstall it | 17:05 |
| kaushal | reinstall alsa-driver-linuxant ? | 17:06 |
| smb_tp | yes. I guess it creates a duplicate version of the alsa core drivers. There might be a reconfigure command... | 17:07 |
| kaushal | ok | 17:07 |
| smoser | rtg_, around ? | 17:08 |
| smb_tp | kaushal, The same thing could happen each time you update the kernel. | 17:08 |
| rtg_ | smoser, yep | 17:09 |
| smoser | can you confirm or refute the following: linux-image-2.6.31-300-ec2 will only ever have version 2.6.31-300.3 . any subsequent packages for that image will have different package names. | 17:09 |
| smoser | (note, that current version is 2.6.31-300.3) | 17:09 |
| rtg_ | smoser, your statement is imprecise. Subsequent updates may or may not have a new package name, depending on if the ABI number changes. | 17:11 |
| smoser | ok. then i say 'false' to the above statement. | 17:11 |
| rtg_ | smoser, correct | 17:11 |
| smoser | the outcome of which is that I have to include the '.3' in a kernel name that i put on ec2 | 17:12 |
| smoser | thank you. | 17:12 |
| rtg_ | smoser, in as much as you want to reference the specific version, then yes. however, I do not recommend that. | 17:12 |
| smoser | rtg_, well, i have to. as i'm stuck in a namespace | 17:15 |
| smoser | ie, if there were ever a .4 version, then i want to upload it. and i can't replace the .3 version or it would break anyone using it. | 17:16 |
| rtg_ | smoser, you mean a version update to an existing package? why would that break anyone using it? | 17:17 |
| smoser | if i push a new kernel to ec2, i would upload it to somewhere like: | 17:17 |
| smoser | canonical-us/ubuntu-kernel-2.6.31-300.3-ec2-x86_64 | 17:17 |
| smoser | right now i have the '.3' in there. if i remove it, a subsequent upload would overwrite that. | 17:18 |
| rtg_ | smoser, pretty much like doing a 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' | 17:18 |
| smoser | you can't replace a file because it has external information pointing to it (the "aki") | 17:18 |
| smoser | so, quick overview: | 17:19 |
| smoser | that path above is an s3 path (amazon storage) | 17:19 |
| smoser | s3 is used to store files that are used as kernel, ramdisk, or images for ec2 | 17:19 |
| smoser | a file is registered with ec2, and is given a globally unique image id (aki-80a84be9) | 17:20 |
| rtg_ | smoser, so, it sounds like you have to be name as well as version specific. | 17:20 |
| smoser | if i subsequently replace the file , then anyone using aki-80a84be9 will no longer be able to use it | 17:20 |
| smoser | because their tools will say "treason! someone is trying to swap your kernel!" | 17:21 |
| smoser | with obviously good reasons. | 17:21 |
| smoser | so, rtg_ you probalby have no care, but if i had to choose between: | 17:22 |
| smoser | linux-image-2.6.31-300-ec2 | 17:22 |
| smoser | and | 17:22 |
| smoser | oops | 17:22 |
| smoser | between | 17:22 |
| smoser | linux-image-2.6.31-300-ec2.3 | 17:22 |
| smoser | and | 17:22 |
| smoser | linux-image-2.6.31-300.3-ec2 | 17:22 |
| smoser | which would you pick? i think i lean towards the '.3' on the end rather than inserted into the middle. | 17:22 |
| rtg_ | smoser, mox nix. | 17:23 |
| smoser | the other option is being possibly overly verbose: | 17:23 |
| smoser | ok. thanks for your time. | 17:24 |
| rtg_ | smoser, np | 17:24 |
| akgraner | ogasawara, you're a rock star!!! :-) | 18:07 |
| rtg_ | akgraner, surely you're not just coming to that realization :) we've all known it for awhile. | 18:08 |
| akgraner | rtg_, oh I've known that :-) | 18:09 |
| rtg_ | akgraner, oh by the way, jjohansen muttered something about an AppArmor session during Open week | 18:10 |
| akgraner | rtg_, sweet... | 18:10 |
| akgraner | just add it to the wiki..:-) | 18:11 |
| rtg_ | akgraner, I'll annoy him to make sure he takes positive action. | 18:11 |
| akgraner | rtg_, great.. that way I don't have to annoy people... I have that skill perfected already...:-) | 18:11 |
| jjohansen | rtg_, akgraner: I was just doing that | 18:11 |
| akgraner | jjohansen, :-) thanks you rock... I don't care what rtg_ says ..:-) | 18:12 |
| akgraner | catch you all laters!! Thanks a million!!! | 18:14 |
| rtg_ | apw, until staging caTCHES UP, i'D SAY JUST DISABLE IT UNTIL ABOUT -RC2 OR -RC3 | 18:30 |
| rtg_ | damn keyboard | 18:30 |
| apw | heheh | 18:30 |
| apw | rtg ok | 18:30 |
| rtg_ | CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW ? | 18:30 |
| apw | nope, my eyes are shot :) | 18:30 |
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| rtg_ | apw, what grub2 parameter was recently updated that stopped my server from auto-booting? | 20:13 |
| Keybuk | rtg_: noboot | 20:17 |
| rtg_ | Keybuk, where? not in /boot/grub/grub.cfg or /etc/grub.d | 20:19 |
| Keybuk | sorry, that was me joking :) | 20:19 |
| rtg_ | dude, you had me going. | 20:20 |
| jono | hey all | 20:57 |
| jono | rtg_, is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/409361 on your radar? | 20:57 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 409361 in linux "Seeing drm:intel_dp_i2c_init errors on boot" [Low,Confirmed] | 20:57 |
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