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| doctormo | dinda: hello, got your messages tot he mailing list | 03:59 |
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| dinda | doctormo: howdy | 03:59 |
| doctormo | dinda: Your thoughts on the direction of this project with regards to development? Did you manage to see some of the proposal diagrams? | 04:10 |
| Zachk18 | hello | 12:08 |
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| txwikinger_work | doctormo: A response to the Jason Perlow article: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20090927151401988 | 17:50 |
| doctormo | interesting, thanks | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | dinda: where are you on your ops course? | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | dinda: in addition to the typical stuff from freenode and the IrcTeam, I have written this course: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Courses/IRCOp | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | it's a couple years old, but I think it's all still valid, could probably use a revision talking about freenode's flag system | 19:41 |
| dinda | pleia2: we have an outline that's about it so far | 19:56 |
| dinda | pleia2: the whole point of using Moodle and building a course format is so that folks have a more guided experience, instead of just reading a wiki page | 19:56 |
| pleia2 | dinda: of course :) I was offering up the link as a reference | 19:57 |
| pleia2 | I think the most useful thing about mine is the "writing good bans and mutes" section | 19:57 |
| dinda | pleia2: yip, so links like that are the basis of our course | 19:57 |
| pleia2 | a lot of op guides miss this, and it's sorely needed | 19:57 |
| pleia2 | right, same with all my and doctormo's courses so far | 19:57 |
| dinda | pleia2: and after last night's Troll battle/discussion in #ubuntu-women, might be good to think about that too | 19:58 |
| pleia2 | trying to snag more volunteers to help find us good documentation to do some of our course development with | 19:58 |
| pleia2 | dinda: heh, I'm not even going to bother reading the backlog, that channel has been tiresome for me lately :) | 19:58 |
| * pleia2 thinks "burnout" is a nice section for an ops guide too | 19:59 | |
| pleia2 | irc is so volatile | 20:00 |
| * doctormo hugs pleia2 and dinda | 20:09 | |
| dinda | pleia2: agreed | 20:09 |
| dinda | pleia2: one reason behind tackling the IRCops course first was I wanted a simple, quick victory : | 20:09 |
| dinda | :) | 20:09 |
| * pleia2 hugs doctormo | 20:10 | |
| pleia2 | thanks! | 20:10 |
| * dinda high fives back doctormo | 20:10 | |
| dinda | doctormo: about to reply back to your proposed roles | 20:11 |
| dinda | doctormo: do you want all those roles to map directly to Moodle roles? | 20:11 |
| doctormo | dinda: Most of them will I think, but that's not what _I_ want, it should be a group decission. | 20:14 |
| dinda | doctormo: there are a few gotchas in assigning/setting moodle roles and permissions | 20:14 |
| dinda | doctormo: they're easy enough to customize but we discovered that unless a role also has to the full course files, then they often can't see the materials they are being asked to review. . . | 20:15 |
| doctormo | dinda: It's unlikely moodle would be used for review though, because that happens before publication | 20:16 |
| doctormo | dinda: Moodle only needs to contain publishers, students, teachers and techs. Others are by choice but not much function. | 20:17 |
| doctormo | Onlky publishers would be able to make courses with this proposal. | 20:17 |
| dinda | so would each role then be a different LP group with only publishers having commit rights? | 20:18 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: I think workflow will still have to be somewhat settled, cprofitt and dinda are really more comfortable with the workflow in moodle - we might just have a workflow model that allows that and has someone else in the project backport the moodle courses into asciidoc for pdf release as needed | 20:18 |
| pleia2 | and not to single them out, but since we already have two contributors who feel this way, I'm sure we'll have more in the future :) | 20:19 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Of course we can accomedate various people's tool use, but the more complexity, the more dificulty in administration. | 20:20 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: *nod* we certainly should have limitations on how flexible we should be, but I think this case is reasonable | 20:21 |
| doctormo | I'm hoping that each person can be taught with the right tools to get into editing and reviewing outside of moodle. But we can make that a progressive thing. | 20:21 |
| pleia2 | I agree | 20:21 |
| doctormo | I sware at some point in my life I will take the natural english parser and write a plugin that checks over the grammar of everything I write so mistakes such as above don't happen. | 20:23 |
| doctormo | It makes me look like a right thick idiot sometimes. | 20:23 |
| pleia2 | no worries, you're among friends :) | 20:24 |
| doctormo | Which is why I can get away with moaning about it ;-) | 20:25 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 20:25 |
| wazzu | Does anyone use Empathy instead of Pidgin? | 20:27 |
| doctormo | Not I, I'm still on 9.04 | 20:30 |
| * pleia2 uses bitlbee | 20:30 | |
| pleia2 | and irssi, suppose it matters whether you're asking about IM or IRC | 20:30 |
| wazzu | It is available in 9.04. | 20:30 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Oh I'm using Konversation of IRC | 20:32 |
| wazzu | I find Pidgin's interface somewhat awkward; Empathy looks a little nicer. I just use IRC. | 20:32 |
| doctormo | Hey wazzu, I haven't seen you up on here much before, are you getting involved in our learning community? | 20:38 |
| wazzu | I just got a new computer built and 9.04 setup so I just new on this channel. | 20:39 |
| doctormo | wazzu: welcome | 20:40 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: oh, I'm going to convert my course to asciidoc and flesh it out soon (maybe tonight if I'm not too much of a zombie) | 20:41 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Nice, I'm going to convert the rest of mine and merge in BiosElements branch soon too | 20:41 |
| pleia2 | awesome | 20:41 |
| doctormo | These branches have been nice and cheap ways of experimenting with formats so far. | 20:42 |
| wazzu | Thank you. It seems like a nice group. | 20:42 |
| Zachk18 | welcome wazzu | 20:48 |
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| pleia2 | Zachk18: please stop using that here :( | 20:51 |
| pleia2 | Zachk18: I've asked you several times | 20:51 |
| wazzu | Well, good day everyone; time to go. Thanks for the kindly welcome. | 21:02 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Who is the admin for this IRC channel? | 21:02 |
| doctormo | wazzu: I look forward to seeing you again some time. | 21:02 |
| pleia2 | doctormo_: I am (but bodhi, vantrax and cproffit are channel manager too | 21:35 |
| pleia2 | dunno why you aren't, huh | 21:35 |
| pleia2 | there we go | 21:36 |
| pleia2 | so board members are channel admins | 21:37 |
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