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| * james_w waves | 15:56 | |
| evand | hiya | 15:57 |
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| * mterry waits until #startmeeting | 15:58 | |
| cjwatson | hi | 16:00 |
| james_w | what's the main airport for Dallas? | 16:01 |
| james_w | Fort Worth? | 16:01 |
| robbiew | hello | 16:01 |
| robbiew | DFW | 16:01 |
| robbiew | #startmeeting | 16:01 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:01. The chair is robbiew. | 16:01 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:01 |
| * robbiew apologizes for no agenda...up past 4am working on xsplash bug :/ | 16:02 | |
| Keybuk | robbiew: congrats on the bug fix ;) | 16:02 |
| mterry | hello all | 16:02 |
| * robbiew has to keep is "street cred" with the developers from time to time ;) | 16:03 | |
| cjwatson | ehlo | 16:04 |
| highvoltage | helo | 16:04 |
| robbiew | ok | 16:04 |
| robbiew | is slangasek off today? | 16:05 |
| * robbiew should probably know that :/ | 16:05 | |
| cjwatson | he was around earlier ... | 16:06 |
| robbiew | so what do we have scheduled for Beta release? | 16:06 |
| robbiew | anything slip out? | 16:06 |
| robbiew | feature wise | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | let's see, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic | 16:06 |
| doko__ | hi | 16:06 |
| mterry | I think technically my 'oem-config improvements' spec slipped, but that was expected. remaining work should be deferred | 16:07 |
| robbiew | eh...I don't count that ;) | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | boot performance; archive reorg; deb/rsync; kerneloops; oem-config; wubi updates | 16:07 |
| robbiew | I think BootPerf can be considered done | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | deb/rsync and wubi updates were deferred | 16:07 |
| robbiew | just fixing bugs now | 16:07 |
| robbiew | kerneloops is done | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | major change expected from archive reorg this cycle is done though we're still working on ongoing changes | 16:07 |
| robbiew | nice | 16:08 |
| Keybuk | I'm quite pleased with the SSD boot performance | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | mvo: more-robust-python-packaging, we should settle the status of that task on releasestatus/karmic one way or another | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | I think everything else is as out of the way as it's supposed to be | 16:08 |
| mvo | cjwatson: its partly done, party defered, I would lean toward defered | 16:09 |
| robbiew | james_w: are you expecting anymore progress with regard to Dist Dev or Daily Builds? | 16:09 |
| robbiew | or are we "done" for this cycle | 16:09 |
| * slangasek holds the network wires together with one hand and waves with the other | 16:09 | |
| james_w | hopefully | 16:09 |
| robbiew | heh | 16:09 |
| james_w | nothing in the archive though | 16:09 |
| Keybuk | slangasek: I feel your pain | 16:09 |
| highvoltage | slangasek: isn't that what teeth are for? | 16:10 |
| robbiew | Keybuk: is the Packaging and Upgrade Policy for Upstart stuff done? | 16:10 |
| Keybuk | robbiew: no | 16:10 |
| robbiew | will it be for 9.10 :P | 16:10 |
| Keybuk | probably not ;) | 16:10 |
| Keybuk | because it'd be changed again by 10.04 :P | 16:10 |
| robbiew | heh | 16:11 |
| robbiew | ok...will defer | 16:11 |
| robbiew | [ACTION] robbiew to defer Packaging and Upgrade Policy for Upstart | 16:11 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: robbiew to defer Packaging and Upgrade Policy for Upstart | 16:11 |
| robbiew | and where are we at with bug 432089 | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 432089 in sreadahead "performs poorly on slow HDD" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432089 | 16:12 |
| robbiew | Keybuk: ^ | 16:13 |
| Keybuk | deferred | 16:13 |
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| Keybuk | cf. my comment there | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | well, deferred though substantially improved, right ... | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | (door) | 16:14 |
| Keybuk | the deadline scheduler change does certainly improve it | 16:14 |
| Keybuk | amongst other things | 16:14 |
| Keybuk | the real problem is that HDD performance optimisation is *hard* | 16:14 |
| Keybuk | sreadahead is "at least as good" as readahead-list on HDD | 16:14 |
| Keybuk | though I wouldn't use the word "good" there | 16:14 |
| robbiew | okay | 16:15 |
| robbiew | my main fear was regressing people with HDDs | 16:15 |
| robbiew | if we can say we haven't done that...then I'm okay | 16:15 |
| Keybuk | I've not seen any evidence that it's worse | 16:15 |
| robbiew | yeah...there's the usual "stories" of people claiming slowness | 16:16 |
| robbiew | but without bootcharts to back it up...nothing we can do | 16:16 |
| Keybuk | indeed | 16:17 |
| Keybuk | and yes, jaunty boots faster | 16:17 |
| Keybuk | but jaunty did not have couch potato based fat bastard db | 16:17 |
| robbiew | lol | 16:17 |
| robbiew | I thought they were fixing that | 16:17 |
| robbiew | slangasek: did you get any late fixes around couch? | 16:17 |
| robbiew | for beta? | 16:17 |
| james_w | system daemon, or per-user? | 16:17 |
| james_w | I believe the default install no longer starts the former | 16:19 |
| slangasek | robbiew: there were some uploads, but they arrived late in the beta freeze with nothing I could see that was beta-critical | 16:19 |
| slangasek | (in fact, the one bug report that was being tracked was a non-bug) | 16:20 |
| robbiew | nice | 16:20 |
| robbiew | ok | 16:20 |
| james_w | the previous upload was the one that was supposed to fix that | 16:20 |
| slangasek | so those are in the queue and will be released post-beta | 16:20 |
| robbiew | james_w: so I shouldn't see couchdb start at all? or does it start after user-login? | 16:20 |
| james_w | robbiew: it will start in your session if something uses it | 16:21 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:21 | |
| james_w | but perhaps the fix for the system daemon was incomplete | 16:21 |
| robbiew | hmmm | 16:22 |
| slangasek | "perhaps"? | 16:23 |
| * Keybuk hasn't looked in the last week | 16:23 | |
| james_w | just hypothesising, I believe the system daemon shouldn't start on the beta images | 16:24 |
| Keybuk | it doesn | 16:24 |
| Keybuk | argh US keyboard | 16:24 |
| Keybuk | it doesn't look like it started on this | 16:24 |
| robbiew | ok | 16:25 |
| robbiew | cjwatson: so are we looking better for the cloud installer stuff | 16:26 |
| * robbiew backs away to avoid a swing by cjwatson :P | 16:26 | |
| cjwatson | there are some startup race difficulties at the moment, which ttx and kirkland are working | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | and Keybuk commented on a short while ago in #ubuntu-devel | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | the installer as such seems to be largely OK no | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | w | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | it's eucalyptus itself and its startup that are busted | 16:28 |
| robbiew | right...I saw that, thanks | 16:28 |
| Keybuk | yeah, and the eucalyptus scripts are doing strange things that I don't even know the behaviour of ;) | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | what was strange about eucalyptus-cloud BTW? | 16:29 |
| cjwatson | just the timeout? | 16:29 |
| Keybuk | it uses a post-start script | 16:29 |
| cjwatson | I already suggested to mdz that that should use respawn limit | 16:29 |
| Keybuk | without any main process, etc. | 16:29 |
| Keybuk | I'm not even sure that works | 16:29 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: I commented on that yesterday, and ion immediately said it worked | 16:29 |
| cjwatson | or was supposed to | 16:29 |
| Keybuk | and I'm certainly not sure of upstart's behaviour when it exits ;) | 16:29 |
| cjwatson | now, he might have been wrong, I didn't check further after that | 16:29 |
| Keybuk | since there are bugs in RECENT upstart history which resulted in a kernel panic when using post-start, it's not very well tested code <g> | 16:30 |
| cjwatson | hah | 16:30 |
| Keybuk | why is it post-start anyway? | 16:30 |
| cjwatson | poke ion for me, then ;) | 16:30 |
| Keybuk | I couldn't find any reason why it shouldn't be pre-start | 16:30 |
| Keybuk | in fact, if you don't have a main process, there really isn't much difference between pre-start and post-start | 16:31 |
| cjwatson | I don't know of a good reason for that, no | 16:31 |
| cjwatson | mdz just said "it worked for me" when I asked about it | 16:31 |
| Keybuk | :D | 16:31 |
| Keybuk | I guess I need someone to explain to me what they're trying to do | 16:32 |
| kirkland | Keybuk: cjwatson: if it helps, i have the precise order that the scripts should run, according to nurmi | 16:32 |
| Keybuk | kirkland: that would help | 16:33 |
| robbiew | ok...I don't have anything else | 16:33 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Good News? | 16:33 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Good News? | 16:33 |
| * robbiew can still use gdb :P | 16:34 | |
| Keybuk | I inadvertently tested the GRUB2 menu on recovery feature | 16:34 |
| Keybuk | and it worked | 16:34 |
| liw | my home file server's 8 hard disks and SATA controller haven't totally failed yet! | 16:34 |
| Keybuk | "oh, that's odd, I got the GRUB menu ... ah, it failed to boot" | 16:34 |
| robbiew | heh | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: (might be nice if it told you why it was showing the grub menu, but I haven't figured out how yet ...) | 16:34 |
| mterry | Ah, is that why I've been given the grub menu? :) | 16:34 |
| mterry | I thought the timeout got removed somehow | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | I think I nailed about 75% of the remaining clock handling bugs in the installer | 16:35 |
| Keybuk | yeah | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | this is your weekly dose of extremely qualified good news | 16:35 |
| Keybuk | sadly the reason I failed to boot was one of the other 25% :) | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: hmm? | 16:35 |
| Keybuk | I actually, genuinely, think there might be another ext4 bug here | 16:35 |
| Keybuk | it doesn't look like it updates the last mount time timestamp when you *unmount* | 16:35 |
| Keybuk | so if you boot with a fast clock | 16:36 |
| mvo | I managed to spend time on something other than softtware-center last week | 16:36 |
| Keybuk | and ntpdate fixes it | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | I also have plans to actively compare NTP with the hardware clock + timezone, and try to guess better | 16:36 |
| Keybuk | then on shutdown we fix the hardware clock to be right | 16:36 |
| robbiew | mvo: \o/ | 16:36 |
| Keybuk | but unmounting the ext4 filesystem doesn't fix that | 16:36 |
| Keybuk | so you reboot with a mount time in the future | 16:36 |
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| cjwatson | but ext4 is bug-free! | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | ahem | 16:36 |
| kirkland | Keybuk: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/282246/ | 16:36 |
| Amaranth | mvo: now you can help with compiz stuff instead ;) | 16:37 |
| slangasek | good news: I can almost make nfs-common start via upstart | 16:37 |
| slangasek | stopping is another matter | 16:37 |
| mterry | heh | 16:37 |
| mvo | Amaranth: heh :) | 16:37 |
| robbiew | Amaranth: uh...no | 16:37 |
| Keybuk | kirkland: right | 16:38 |
| Keybuk | if they're supposed to run in series, these conf files won't do that :p | 16:38 |
| Keybuk | slangasek: hmm? | 16:38 |
| slangasek | Keybuk: I was prodding at bug #431248... did you not get my voicemail? :) | 16:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 431248 in portmap "NFS not mounted" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/431248 | 16:38 |
| Keybuk | I don't have voicemail? | 16:39 |
| * Keybuk turned it off | 16:39 | |
| slangasek | oh cool | 16:39 |
| james_w | kayak.co.uk makes looking for flights significantly less painful | 16:39 |
| Keybuk | the trick to those is to break nfs-common into lots of different conf files | 16:39 |
| Keybuk | thus /etc/init/rpc.statd.conf | 16:39 |
| slangasek | too bad the message isn't turned off, inviting me to leave one :P | 16:39 |
| Keybuk | etc. | 16:39 |
| slangasek | Keybuk: yes, I'm aware | 16:39 |
| slangasek | :) | 16:39 |
| slangasek | it's slow going though, to keep my eyes from bleeding too much | 16:39 |
| slangasek | (from the existing nfs-common code) | 16:40 |
| kirkland | Keybuk: well, theoretically some of these can run in parallel, but the euca guys aren't comfortable with that; they've long trusted their series of init scripts | 16:40 |
| robbiew | okay...I think we're done. Don't forget to setup your travel for the release sprint (if you are attending) and UDS | 16:40 |
| robbiew | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:40. | 16:40 |
| liw | slangasek, ifyou turn off your monitor, your eyes will bleed less | 16:40 |
| slangasek | thanks | 16:40 |
| Keybuk | kirkland: OOI, why was this converted to Upstart? | 16:40 |
| james_w | thanks all | 16:41 |
| liw | muchas gracias | 16:41 |
| mvo | thanks | 16:41 |
| kirkland | Keybuk: i expected to convert to upstart for Lucid, mdz decided to do it immediately | 16:41 |
| mterry | ta | 16:41 |
| kirkland | Keybuk: i'm not positive of his rationale, but i suspect it's something along the lines of "those init scripts were an absolute mess" | 16:42 |
| kirkland | Keybuk: and that we thought we could enforce the dependencies better using upstart | 16:42 |
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| * fader_ waves. | 17:59 | |
| marjo | #startmeeting | 18:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 12:00. The chair is marjo. | 18:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 18:00 |
| marjo | Hi folks! | 18:00 |
| marjo | QA Team Meeting Agenda | 18:00 |
| davmor2 | hello | 18:00 |
| marjo | Agenda: | 18:00 |
| marjo | * SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie) | 18:00 |
| marjo | * Bugday highlights -- bdmurray (Brian Murray) | 18:00 |
| pedro_ | hola! | 18:00 |
| marjo | Are there any new topics you want to add to the agenda? | 18:00 |
| sbeattie | *cough* beta testing *cough* | 18:01 |
| marjo | ah, but of course! | 18:01 |
| davmor2 | just don't mention wubi | 18:01 |
| marjo | ouch | 18:01 |
| fader_ | Wubi? Never heard of it O:-) | 18:02 |
| pedro_ | heh | 18:02 |
| marjo | #topic SRU Testing - sbeattie | 18:02 |
| marjo | [TOPIC] SRU Testing | 18:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: SRU Testing | 18:02 |
| sbeattie | SRU Activity for the past week (since 2009-09-16): | 18:02 |
| sbeattie | * Jaunty: 5 new packages in -proposed (apport, dbconfig-common, language-packs, net-snmp, pythonmagick) and 8 packages pushed to -updates (apport, dbconfig-common, firefox-3.5, gitosis, kdenetwork, linux, opencity, xulrunner-1.9.1) | 18:02 |
| sbeattie | * Intrepid: 1 new package in -proposed (net-snmp) and no packages pushed to -updates | 18:02 |
| sbeattie | * Hardy: 1 new package in -proposed (net-snmp) and 1 package pushed to -updates (linux-ubuntu-modules) | 18:02 |
| sbeattie | * Dapper: no changes this week | 18:02 |
| sbeattie | sorry, since 2009-09-23 | 18:03 |
| sbeattie | Thanks to Alok Kataria, A. Karl Kornel, Pascal DANEK, stgraber, and Jeremy Wilkins for testing SRU packages this week. | 18:03 |
| marjo | sbeattie: anything else? | 18:04 |
| sbeattie | That's it for SRUs this week. | 18:04 |
| marjo | thx | 18:04 |
| marjo | [TOPIC] Bugday highlights -- bdmurray | 18:05 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Bugday highlights -- bdmurray | 18:05 |
| bdmurray | I think that agenda item is stale / left-over from last week's meeting. | 18:05 |
| marjo | oops, sorry | 18:05 |
| bdmurray | No problem, I should have looked at it in advance too. | 18:05 |
| marjo | ara: are you able to give Beta status? | 18:05 |
| marjo | [TOPIC] Karmic Beta Testing Status | 18:06 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Karmic Beta Testing Status | 18:06 |
| ara | yes, the server is a bit slow now, as it has been respun a couple of times due to a UEC bug | 18:06 |
| ara | but the rest is looking good | 18:06 |
| marjo | Yeah! | 18:06 |
| ara | we shouldn't expect (finger x'ed) another respin | 18:07 |
| ara | but we do need help in testing the untested test cases | 18:07 |
| ara | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build//inprogress | 18:07 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build//inprogress | 18:07 |
| marjo | ara: is it true only moblin remix is untested!? | 18:07 |
| ara | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/untested | 18:07 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/untested | 18:07 |
| ara | marjo, no, wrong link | 18:07 |
| ara | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/inprogress | 18:08 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/inprogress | 18:08 |
| ara | those two | 18:08 |
| marjo | ah, got it! | 18:08 |
| fader_ | FYI I'm pulling down the kubuntu DVD now and will start on some of those tests shortly | 18:08 |
| fader_ | *amd64 | 18:08 |
| marjo | Folks: Can anyone on the meeting help out? | 18:08 |
| * pedro_ starts to sync ubuntu studio i386 | 18:08 | |
| cr3 | marjo: I'll make sure automated testing is poised for tomorrow | 18:09 |
| marjo | fader, pedro, cr3: thx! | 18:09 |
| fader_ | ^^ And I plan to head into Lexington tomorrow to hit the netbooks there :) | 18:09 |
| * sbeattie is working on xubuntu and ubuntu-server upgrade tests | 18:09 | |
| davmor2 | I'm about to have tea then kill the last of the ubuntu alternate tests. Then kill edubuntu then whatever is left | 18:09 |
| marjo | looking forward to good beta test coverage | 18:09 |
| marjo | sbeattie, fader: thx | 18:10 |
| marjo | davmor2: great! | 18:10 |
| marjo | any ideas on how to get upgrade coverage? | 18:10 |
| sbeattie | that's what I'm working on | 18:11 |
| marjo | thx! | 18:11 |
| davmor2 | marjo: edubuntu is being respun to kill sbeatties bug | 18:11 |
| davmor2 | looks like it was just a seed issue | 18:11 |
| marjo | davmor2: yes, as you suspected | 18:12 |
| marjo | or hoped for | 18:12 |
| * Riddell hugs fader_ | 18:12 | |
| marjo | ara: if everyone does what they just said, what would be left uncovered? | 18:12 |
| fader_ | :D | 18:12 |
| ara | well, upgrades needs more people, I guess | 18:13 |
| marjo | sbeattie: how much of the upgades list can you cover? | 18:13 |
| marjo | download info Upgrade Edubuntu amd64 (20090929) 0/1 | 18:14 |
| marjo | download info Upgrade Edubuntu i386 (20090929) 0/1 | 18:14 |
| marjo | download info Upgrade Kubuntu amd64 (20090929) 0/1 | 18:14 |
| marjo | download info Upgrade Ubuntu Server amd64 (20090930) 0/1 | 18:14 |
| marjo | download info Upgrade Xubuntu amd64 (20090929) 0/1 | 18:14 |
| marjo | download info Upgrade Xubuntu i386 (20090929) 0/1 | 18:14 |
| ara | marjo, and also, when edubuntu is done, we need to retest | 18:14 |
| sbeattie | marjo: I'm working on 3 of those 6 right now, will move to other 3 when I'm finished with these. | 18:14 |
| marjo | sbeattie: nice! | 18:15 |
| fader_ | sbeattie: Out of curiosity, do you have images of previous installs handy that you might be able to share? | 18:15 |
| fader_ | E.g. put on a server somewhere? | 18:15 |
| fader_ | (I'm assuming you're using virtualization for the upgrade testing) | 18:15 |
| sbeattie | fader_: not... easily. my outbound bandwidth is pretty slow. | 18:15 |
| fader_ | sbeattie: Okay, I thought that might be the case but it didn't hurt to ask :) | 18:16 |
| marjo | ara: any ideas for edubuntu DVD amd64? i don't see a subscriber to it | 18:16 |
| fader_ | marjo: I will grab that one if nobody else does by the time I finish the kubuntu DVD | 18:17 |
| marjo | fader_: thx! | 18:17 |
| ara | fader_, nice | 18:17 |
| marjo | so, does that mean all is covered?! | 18:18 |
| marjo | that would be great, after edubuntu is respun | 18:18 |
| marjo | all: can you please go ahead and subscribe so that the subscription summary is updated? | 18:19 |
| marjo | thx | 18:19 |
| ara | for RC it will be nice to have more people on the platform team testing | 18:20 |
| fader_ | marjo: FYI, the subscriptions go past the immediate testing run and indicate that you're interested in testing every new spin of an image. I don't mind testing any of them but it might be a good idea to try to find people who use Edubuntu regularly to help test it, for example | 18:20 |
| marjo | ara: i agree; let's work on that | 18:20 |
| fader_ | I do try to grab images that haven't been tested even if I'm not subscribed | 18:20 |
| marjo | fader_ : oic | 18:20 |
| ara | fader_, yes, I think that's what most of us do | 18:21 |
| fader_ | ara: Indeed, I didn't mean to imply that it was just me ;) | 18:21 |
| ara | fader_, I know :D | 18:21 |
| cr3 | aren't people on the platform team busy frantically fixing bugs, or are there so few bugs that they really have spare cycles for testing? | 18:21 |
| marjo | fader_ : yes, that's one of the things ara is working on - recruiting regular testers | 18:21 |
| marjo | cr3: the idea is to get more coverage by folks who know and use the product well | 18:22 |
| ara | cr3, one test case per person per milestone is achievable, I think | 18:22 |
| marjo | but in general, the more the better and merrier | 18:22 |
| ara | cr3, we are about 80 people in the platform team | 18:23 |
| cr3 | marjo: I would suspect that the coverage you speak of is already done before pushing a new package to the repository | 18:24 |
| marjo | cr3: you're right, but I'm thinking more of "test coverage" as in hitting all the cases called out in the iso tracker | 18:25 |
| cr3 | ara: will we be assigning specific cases to members of the platform team or will they pick cases according to their expertise? | 18:25 |
| cr3 | ara: nevermind, "iso tracker" comment by marjo answers my question :) | 18:25 |
| ara | cr3, I think that the pick what's untested in the iso tracker is a good strategy | 18:26 |
| marjo | currently there are 7 red bugs showing | 18:26 |
| marjo | according to davmor2, https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/439279 is being worked | 18:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 439279 in wubi "There seems to be some instability with the installer" [Undecided,New] | 18:27 |
| marjo | davmor2: sorry, i had to mention wubi | 18:28 |
| marjo | any new status on the other 6? | 18:28 |
| ara | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/431206 is already milestoned by the mobile team | 18:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 431206 in Ubuntu Karmic "partman-uboot needs to exist for check script for supporting manual partitioning" [Undecided,New] | 18:29 |
| marjo | ok, folks, anything else on Beta? | 18:30 |
| marjo | imho, it's looking pretty good, no? | 18:31 |
| marjo | any other topics for today? | 18:31 |
| marjo | ok, if nothing else, i propose we adjourn | 18:32 |
| marjo | thx to all and good luck for Beta release! | 18:32 |
| marjo | #endmeeting | 18:32 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 12:32. | 18:32 |
| fader_ | Thanks everyone | 18:32 |
| pedro_ | thanks | 18:33 |
| katu | Hi, I have a question about the upcoming jams. I'm a programmer and ubuntu user, but haven't done any particularly ubuntu-specific work - is there anything it would be useful to do to prepare for the jam and increase the odds I can do something useful there? | 18:49 |
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| === robbiew is now known as robbiew-afk | ||
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