/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/09/30/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

gbuttersnot tonight testing beta cd00:16
kd8bxpI have a problem - Hope someone can help - I just installed Mythbuntu 9.04 - when I play back video files I have sound, but no video at all - default install, mplayer - I did install the non-free and restricted codecs, is there a way to use totem which was not installed?02:02
mishehuam I going to screw something up with the kernel modules if I follow the instructions at http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-2200 ?03:28
mishehuit's building a crapload of kernel modules (not just for the HVR 22xx series)03:29
purefusiontrying to install without a cd-rom drive is turning out to be quite the tricky task06:18
superm1use a usb stick06:21
purefusionI am, kinda06:28
purefusionI have a normal Jaunty USB stick, and was trying to follow the Hard Drive install here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Alternative-Installation-Methods-for-Hardy-86977.shtml06:29
purefusionI guess I could temporarily swap it with mythbuntu files extracted from the iso06:30
purefusionshame I cant get VNC to connect to the machine though... this TV isnt the best of qualities06:31
superm1geez talk about overkill06:39
superm1use usb-creator06:39
superm1it can burn a mythbuntu iso to a usb stick no problem06:39
purefusionI couldn't get that to work last I attempted it06:40
purefusionbut now that I think of it, I believe that was a BIOS configuration issue06:40
mishehusuperm1: thought you might like to know that I got the hauppage hvr 2250 working15:01
mishehuit was really a piece of cake to do, as it comes up as a dvb card.15:02
mishehujust needed the recent drivers from linuxtv.org15:02
CyberKnetI also did that the other night. Really easy to do.15:02
mishehuCyberKnet: ah you got the card too?  nice isn't it?15:02
CyberKnetmishehu: Yep, if only it could do analog in linux too15:02
mishehuit'll even be better when they add in the analog support so that it can also do analog signals15:03
CyberKnetyeah15:03
CyberKnetAgreed.15:03
mishehuI'm sure it's in the works15:03
CyberKnetI need more disk space though15:03
CyberKnet8Gb / Hr15:03
CyberKnet*man*15:03
mishehuand if not I do have a pvr 250 laying around somewhere still15:03
CyberKnetI have a PVR-500, but have issues with it in Mythbuntu15:03
CyberKnetworked fine in Fedora 1015:03
CyberKnetMythbuntu 9.04 it's unwatchable.15:03
mishehuCyberKnet: yeah I hear that!  I'm going to need to set up some automatic removal of commercials and transcoding on anything I keep15:03
mishehuthe only thing I don't have working yet is my remote15:04
mishehuthe lirc_mceusb2 module is loaded and lirc running, but myth isn't responding to keypresses...15:04
mishehu(I had a pinnacle media center remote that is listed in lirc's website as being supported by the lirc_mceusb2 module)15:05
CyberKnetI have a microsoft media center remote / receiver that uses that module15:05
mishehudo you think it might have something to do with the "use dynamic mapping" option?15:05
CyberKnetdidn't have any issues other than not liking the initial mappin15:05
CyberKnetI don't know ...  I had that option checked.15:06
CyberKnetI've used Fedora for the last five years or more ... very new to Mythbuntu15:06
CyberKnettyped in "service mythbackend stop15:06
CyberKnetand was confused when it didn't have the service command :)15:07
CyberKnetthen remembered my slackware days and typed /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop15:07
CyberKnetheh15:07
mishehuI use slackware...  what is this service command you speak of?  *grin*15:07
mishehuslackware and mythbuntu that is15:07
CyberKnetexactly :)15:07
mishehuactually slackware style is in /etc/rc.d15:07
CyberKnetyeah15:08
CyberKnetI looked for rc.d first, saw rc0.d and init.d15:08
mishehuI have replaced somethings with launching in /etc/rc.d/rc.local with launching them via djb's daemontools15:08
mishehuanyway, I'm looking for instructions on the key mappings...  if I selected dynamic mappings, does that mean I have to make an lircrc file in my homedir?15:12
CyberKnetno, it created for me in ~/.lirc/15:13
CyberKnetiirc15:13
CyberKnetone for mythtv, mplayer, xine, etc15:13
mishehuhmm I do see that yes15:13
mishehuwonder why the hell it's not picking up any of the key presses15:14
Zinnmishehu: Please watch your language.15:14
CyberKnetThose were what were active and working for me15:14
CyberKnetexcept the "back" button on my remote wasn't mapped at all.15:15
CyberKnetwhich was weird.15:15
mishehuisn't irw the program in lirc that will listen for keypresses and print it out on the screen?15:16
CyberKnetI thought it was the one that would generate a remote configuration file - but yes, would print out keypresses on the screen as it went15:17
mishehuCyberKnet: ugh no luck15:21
mishehuand I made sure the remote itself is transmitting (hold it up to a digicam and see if it lights up when a button is pressed)15:21
CyberKnethmmm15:27
CyberKnetmaybe the receiver doesn't work with that module?15:28
superm1CyberKnet, about your PVR-500 - try turning off VBI15:31
superm1its somewhere in the backend setup15:31
CyberKnetsuperm1: Hmmm.... I hadn't considered that15:31
CyberKnetThat will cause trouble then?15:31
CyberKnetinteresting.15:31
superm1for a lot of people, yes15:31
CyberKnetThanks for the thought, I really appreciate it :)15:31
CyberKnetThat would be awesome if it fixes it.15:32
mishehusuperm1: any thoughts about my remote not picking up the key presses?15:36
mishehuBus 002 Device 002: ID 2304:0225 Pinnacle Systems, Inc. [hex]15:36
mishehuthat's my remote, it's selected as a newer media center remote (i.e. phillips)15:37
superm1get a remote that you know is supported? :)15:37
mishehuand lirc_mceusb2 is loaded15:37
superm1ah so it's supposed to be using lirc-mceusb2...15:37
superm1try irw15:37
mishehusuperm1: nada, and I just try using irrecord -d /dev/lircd and it times out after 10 seconds15:38
superm1mishehu, okay then do this: sudo /etc/init.d/lirc stop; sudo rmmod lirc-mceusb2; sudo rmmod lirc-dev15:39
superm1and unplug the device15:39
superm1plug it back in, and see if lirc-mceusb2 is getting loaded automatically15:39
mishehuhmm good point15:39
mishehusec15:39
superm1udev is supposed to load it and start lircd, but if it doesn't, that means this thing isn't recognized by lirc-mceusb215:39
mishehuit's not loading15:42
superm1then this device doesn't use lirc-mceusb2, which explains why you can't capture from it15:43
superm1are you *sure* it's supposed to?15:43
superm1you can try to just add it's IDs into the lirc-mceusb2 driver to force it...15:43
mishehueverything that I find in searches says that this is supported by lirc-mceusb215:43
mishehuand that hte ids were already being added back around the end of 200715:44
superm1okay, install lirc-modules-source15:44
superm1and go into /usr/src/lirc-* and find the source to double check15:44
mishehuI see we have 0.8.4a on 9.04 currently15:45
mishehu0.8.6 is out for a few weeks now15:46
superm1yeah working on getting 0.8.6 into 9.10 is on TODO, but is going to require a sit down15:46
mishehuI don't doubt it15:47
mishehulirc is one of those programs that can be a total b1tch to get working15:47
CyberKnetfwiw, I really like Mythbuntu. I was willing to replace my PVR-500 I liked mythbuntu so much better than Fedora :)15:47
CyberKnetSo simple to install and set up for a combined frontend/backend15:48
mishehumythbuntu is very nice for setting up mythtv.  I've done mythtv from source...   oyyy the agony15:48
mishehugot to install vim, it's driving me in insane to keep typing in vim and having to set it to vi15:49
mishehu#define VENDOR_PINNACLE      0x230415:50
mishehuline 135 of lirc_mceusb2.c15:50
mishehuthen the minor number is listed on line 19415:51
mishehuas a part of the usb_remote_table array.15:52
superm1hm awesome15:52
superm1so it *should* be working :)15:52
mishehuyes, it *should* be.15:52
mishehunow if I manually modprobe the module, I do see this:15:53
haffeHello guys. Have any of you tried running mythbuntu on an nvidia ion platform?15:53
mishehu[38582.781107] lirc_mceusb2[2]: Pinnacle Systems PCTV Remote USB on usb3:215:53
mishehuhaffe: I will be in the near future.15:53
mishehuI dont' see why it would be an issue to do.15:53
haffemishehu: I have really bad experiences from nvidia and hiberation/suspend.15:54
mishehuI *think* that wagnerp in #mythtv-users uses some distro with mythtv on an ion15:54
mishehuhaffe: I wouldn't be hibernating or suspending my myth box, personally15:54
haffeOk.15:54
mishehuand with it being an atom proc, it will not be using much electricity when not doing anything.15:55
mishehusuperm1:  * Loading LIRC modules                                                  [ OK ] * Starting remote control daemon(s) : LIRC                              [fail]15:56
superm1haffe, i'd be running 9.10 if you do15:56
superm1to get 0.22 and the newer nvidia drivers and stuff OOTB15:57
haffeOk.15:58
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mishehusuperm1: you know I did something dumb.  I forgot to stop mythtv-backend16:00
mishehuI stopped it, unloaded the lirc drivers, and then unplugged the receiver, counted to 10, and plugged it back in...  it loaded the modules and started lirc.16:00
superm1well thats good i guess16:01
superm1surprised mythtv-backend had to be stopped in the first place16:01
mishehuit holds the dev file open16:01
superm1the *backend*?16:01
superm1wow16:01
mishehuit must have16:02
mishehuI know it will when you have a transmitter16:02
mishehumine's only set as a receiver though16:02
mishehu(this box is a primary fe/be)16:02
mishehubut still no luck with irw or irrecord :-/16:15
CyberKnet:|16:32
CyberKnetI wonder if there was a module parameter or something that is missing16:57
=== Mazga is now known as _Mazga
CyberKnethmm... setting a directory as the DirectoryIndex ...18:09
CyberKnetfor MythWeb, that is18:09
CyberKnetregardless of the port the request comes in on, it appears to always redirect to the default port18:09
CyberKnetso for instance, I have the virtual host listening on 80 and 8518:09
CyberKnetrequest comes in to http://server:85/18:09
CyberKnetand gets redirected to http://server/mythweb/18:10
CyberKnetany way to control this so that it goes to the port the original request came in on?18:10
tgm4883what happens if you do http://server:85/mythweb/18:10
CyberKnetworks as expected18:10
tgm4883superm1, bug? ^18:10
CyberKnetI think it's an apache thing, but wasn't sure.18:11
CyberKnetI'm sure I could code some quick redirect.pl to take care of it and make that the directory index ... but thought you folks might know of a way that doesn't require coding18:11
CyberKnetfwiw, I ended up using RedirectMatch ^/$ /mythweb/18:33
CyberKnetI think this is a better solution than DirectoryIndex mythweb ... ymmv18:33
=== SoylentOrbo is now known as Penth
PenthMythbuntu box is "running" and giving nice TV Out, but HDHR isn't speaking to the system (even though it will to the Winders box). And the work goes on....18:47
CyberKnetPenth: aaah :( Sad to hear. Hope your luck gets better.19:00
PenthI'm rescanning channels from the command line now, after power cycling the hdhr, and it looks like luck is on the way. I'll know for sure after I try the "watch tv" button. (Wonder if the fact Verizon was out for 24 hours while I was setting up the box is part of the problem.)19:03
CyberKnetcouldn't say, not a HDHR user. Just empathize with myth not working :)19:04
CyberKnetwaiting to get home so I can see if VBI is enabled or disabled on my PVR-50019:04
CyberKnethopefully it is, and I can disable it and have a usable tuner card again.19:05
darthanubisI'm still waiting for mythtv to come out the box with a removal of commerical script19:05
darthanubistranscode>gencutlist>transcode19:05
darthanubisseamless with mythexport19:05
darthanubisand or nuvexport19:05
CyberKnetdoesn't mythcommflag insert cutpoints for commercials?19:06
mranddarthanubis: I think all the tools are there for you to set that up yourself, but the consensus last time I saw a discussion on it was that people are willing to risk missing part of their show from a bad (even rare) commflag19:06
mrandpeople are NOT wiling to risk19:06
CyberKnetmrand: That's the bucket I'm in, yeah19:06
CyberKnetI'm not willing to save 30% space at the risk of losing the occasional chunk of show.19:07
darthanubisI have never had my show a regualr show clipped19:07
darthanubisnow a professional game that may go over the alloted time yes19:07
mrandI had one this week.  Heroes19:07
CyberKnetdarthanubis: I get 2-3 a week out of about 30-40 recordings.19:07
darthanubisI have the mythtv setup to transcode and gencutlist, but I have to manually transcode after that19:07
CyberKnethit skip, and it jumps forward 10 minutes.19:07
darthanubisfor the longest my desktop was my mythtv box. I just built a standalone mythtv box with 9.1019:08
darthanubisso far she is humming alone perfectly with alphaware19:08
Penthsweet, darth. Just built my first yesterday, but with jaunty19:09
darthanubisalong19:09
mrandbeta is being pushed to the mirrors as we speak.  Of course, with tonights nightly build, it will be outdated before it is even really used by anyone :-)19:09
mrandPenth: 0.22?19:09
darthanubisI had a spare core2duo laying around19:09
Penthnot after the apt-get upgrade is complete, I hope :)19:10
darthanubisput 2gigs of cheap ddr2 ram and bought a cheap price not quality Asus mobo and a $25 case19:10
* Penth had no net all day yesterday. Fscking Verizon...19:10
darthanubisjust have to buy another dvd burner @$2519:10
rhpot1991Penth: how do you have the HDHR hooked up?19:11
mrandPenth: ah.  So you're just running standard 0.21 Jaunty.  That's cool.19:11
PenthI recycled an old P4 desktop with the dvd-writer taken from a Mac G5 and threw in a GeForce 8800 with s-video out19:11
PenthHDHR is direct into the cable modem19:11
Penther, dsl modem :P19:12
darthanubismine is just a backend. My frontends stream from it via wifi19:12
darthanubisand who said analog cable was dead? My pvr150 is still kicking!:)19:12
PenthI have a 3yo Athlon 64 that I'm turning into my new linux desktop (Bye, old A2600+) and will also use as a backend/transcode server for the P4 f/b19:13
* Penth loves Electronics Recycling Day. Next one in Chestnut Hill on Nov 15th iirc19:14
rhpot1991Penth: dsl modem has a built in router?19:15
PenthYep, a 4-port. (Westell 7500)19:16
darthanubisrhpot1991, long time no see19:17
oobei wanna try out the new mythbuntu 9.10 theme but when i do bzr get lp:ubuntu/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu it asks me to login?19:20
rhpot1991ya darthanubis19:21
rhpot1991hows everything going?19:21
darthanubisgood19:21
darthanubisI just setup a 9.10 mythtv box19:21
darthanubisI still have yet to try a mythbuntu cd. Guess old habits die hard19:22
gbutters_workoobe, bzr branch19:22
darthanubisi want to treat it as an appliance and have it login to the default desktop so that it can long into the wifi19:22
darthanubisI'm still playing with it19:23
darthanubisI'll add your mythexport lil later19:23
darthanubisget it to export shows for my GF's Zen19:24
oobegbutters, how do i do that bzr branch instead of get?19:24
darthanubisJust nice to finally have a seperate machine dedicated to myhttv19:24
oobe bzr branch lp:ubuntu/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu wont work either19:24
oobebzr: ERROR: Unknown repository format: 'Bazaar repository format 2a (needs bzr 1.16 or later)\n'19:26
PenthOnce 9.10 is stable, I'm going to set up mire and some torrent-watching scripts to download all my Japanese TV shows. Then I won't have to watch ANY television on my computer anymore.19:27
Penths/mire/miro/19:27
gbutters_workoobe, bzr branch lp:~gbutters/mythbuntu/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu To get the lastest version19:34
oobethanks gary19:35
oobeim looking forward to it i saw some screen shots the other day19:36
oobeis there a fast way to install all required devel packages to build trunk20:24
tgm4883oobe, build-deps?20:24
oobesudo apt-get build-deps mythtv?20:24
tgm4883build-dep20:25
tgm4883so apt-get build-dep mythtv should work20:25
mishehuhmm mythbuntu doesn't ship with samba's mount.cifs util?20:29
oobei tried that seems i already have everything up to date20:32
oobei can build mythtv fine but mythplugins i get errors20:32
mishehuthink I might have a typo in my mythfrontend settings...  MythSocket(7f1fe0006450:-1): writeStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket.20:56
mishehubut I can't seem to find in the fe's setup where to change the backend IP config20:57
mishehuwhere is that located?20:59
Mysterious1Hello21:55
Mysterious1I deciced to install mythbuntu on my computer but before I do something wrong I want to ask you a few things^^21:56
darthanubis!ask21:57
ZinnPlease don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.21:57
Mysterious1lol^^ you are funny21:58
Mysterious1!ask21:58
ZinnPlease don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.21:58
Mysterious1!ask21:58
ZinnPlease don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.21:58
Mysterious1Are you a bot?21:58
rhpot1991zinn is a bot22:00
Mysterious1Poor Zinn22:00
Mysterious1My english is to bad to understand zinn so i'll just ask^^22:01
Mysterious1I heared that the alternate setup will give me more options. If i choose the direct desktop iso would I still be available to install mythtv to a specific partition?22:04
hadsThere is no alternate iso anymore is there?22:06
Mysterious1oh ok I already wondered where it was but i am really new to mythbuntu22:07
mrandThere is no alt mythbuntu specific iso.  If you need the alt-iso, you can use the standard one from ubuntu.22:07
mrandHowever, I believe the base mythbuntu ISO supports at least some level of partitioning, although I have to be honest I don't remember what.22:09
Mysterious1i hope it won't wipe out my whole hdd like lmce would do^^22:09
mrandIt gives you that option, but you don't have to choose it.22:10
Mysterious1ok so i might be available to do like i want to^^22:11
* Mysterious1 :D22:11
hadsOh yeah, to be clear, mythbuntu is ubuntu so you can if you wish install ubuntu and get to the same place.22:12
Mysterious1then i just have to install mythtv in ubuntu?22:13
Mysterious1to get the same result?22:13
hadsYeah, you would install mythbuntu-desktop or mythbuntu-control-centre and go from there.22:14
mrandFor the most part.  mythbuntu iso is really focused on only what is needed for the media stuff...    ubuntu includes more stuff by default.  But you can get to the same place by adding packages to either one.22:15
Mysterious1ah ok22:15
hadsOr start with the server iso or something.22:16
Mysterious1so it's better to install ubuntu when i want to do other things like... hacking other wifi devices?^^22:16
hadsYou have the same packages available with either.22:16
Mysterious1and there will be no disadvantage if i istalled ubuntu and the packs?22:18
mrandThe package system takes care of you :^)22:19
Mysterious1^^ i never got along with that system^^22:19
Mysterious1i was always scared that these packages might leave crapy files on the system like everything in windows :/22:20
mrandThe only thing I find annoying about the upgrades on ubuntu is that it doesn't delete old kernels.  You can run out of disk space on your /boot partition if you keep running the same system for a real long time and you do every kernel and distro upgrade.22:21
mrandBut it isn't hard to recover from either.22:22
Mysterious1oh ok22:22
Mysterious1so i need complete reinstallations from time to time?22:23
mrandno, not at all.22:23
mrandMy first install was 7.10.    9.10 beta is coming out today/tomorrow.22:23
mrandJust upgrade through each one, if you want.22:24
mrandOr you can stop on a stable one and live there for as long as you want.22:24
Mysterious1ok22:24
hadsNot quite as long as you want.22:24
mrandIf you don't change hardware, sure you can!22:25
hadsIt gets a little painful if support runs out though22:25
mrandI suppose.  Of course, you could park on a LTS (like 10.04) and live for longer than most hardware lasts.22:25
hadsYeah22:25
mrandBut even still, some things don't get backported officially - like Firefox.22:26
mrandbut often there are unofficial PPA's22:26
superm1tgm4883, probably,  need to check a fresh install from 9.1023:10
tgm4883superm1, wha?23:11
purefusionwhat should I use as the grub kernel line for mythbuntu installer on a usb drive?23:24

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