/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/09/30/#ubuntu-testing.txt

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tsonculHello people04:46
arastgraber, hello, are you around?07:01
* ara takes ubuntu desktop i386 oem setup07:05
aramorning yofel_07:21
* ara takes ubuntu desktop i386 auto-resize08:06
* sbeattie is currently doing kubuntu desktop manual partition installs.08:08
arasbeattie, does side-by-side work for you?08:18
sbeattieI haven't tried.08:19
davmor2morning all08:31
aramorning davmor208:32
* ara takes i386 ubuntu desktop only free software 08:52
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sbeattiedavmor2: you were seeing gdm respawn over and over again?10:28
davmor2yeah on wubi10:28
arasbeattie, I also get it in virtualbox10:29
sbeattieokay, same here.10:29
arasbeattie, do we have a mapping somewhere of isotracker logins -> lp logins?10:32
sbeattieara: not that I can see; http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/ gets you the closest, where you can at least see a given users email address.10:35
arasbeattie, ok, thanks :)10:37
davmor2why can't I find the bug I wrote on it meh10:47
aradavmor2, maybe someone set it as invalid?10:50
aradavmor2, have you tried searching for any kind of status?10:51
davmor2ara: I was searching my email10:51
araschwuk, ping11:33
schwukhi ara11:42
* ara -> lunch12:41
* davmor2 starts 32bit netboot while debugging kubuntu wubi fail12:55
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davmor2fader_: Morning everything is working oh apart from kubuntu wubi by the look of it13:08
fader_davmor2: w00t!13:08
davmor2oh and normally wubi is a bit flakey on install13:09
davmor2and well you'll find out the rest I'm sure ;)13:09
fader_Doesn't look like anyone's tested xubuntu much13:09
fader_If it's still like that this afternoon I'll hit it.  Got some other stuff I need to do first though :/13:10
davmor2I'm going to hit that after kubuntu but knock yourself out dude :)13:10
davmor2need to go for lunch now ttyl13:11
fader_Heh, you'll probably have it done before I'm ready, but I'll keep looking :)13:11
davmor2ara: after lunch can you possible kill of the other ubuntu alternate tests please13:11
davmor2ara: although you can leave ltsp13:12
* sbeattie is doing an edubuntu dvd ubiquity install13:20
sbeattie... on i38613:21
aradavmor2, what do you mean?13:49
davmor2ara: Ubuntu alt 64 has 3 tests left is there any chance you could do those those at all?13:54
aradavmor2, 64bits is always a pain in my 32bits installation, but I'll try to tweak virtualbox for it13:55
davmor2ara: that's okay I can hit them13:56
* ara takes xubuntu i386 desktop manual partitioning14:18
sbeattieargh, edubuntu debian-install fails when setup with lvm+crypt due to missing cryptsetup package.14:24
* fader_ takes xubuntu amd64 entire disk14:34
* sbeattie has a xubuntu desktop i386 side-by-side going.14:44
* pedro_ doing xubuntu alt i38614:48
* ara thinks that the usplash theme for xubuntu is cute :)14:52
davmor2ara: did they get the fireflys in?14:53
fader_ara: It always makes me think of a hamster running in a wheel to provide power for a mechanical laptop.  Very steampunk :)14:53
stgraberara: I'm now.14:55
sbeattiebah, got the gdm respawn thing with xubuntu as well.15:12
fader_sbeattie: Under what circumstances?  I haven't seen it on amd64 yet...15:12
sbeattiei386 livecd, virtualbox guest, direct-install (not from livecd environment), at lesat this time anyway.15:13
davmor2sbeattie: you get it kdm too15:16
* sbeattie steps away to feed the rugrats.15:19
davmor2sbeattie, ara: how's this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/43940515:44
ubot4`Launchpad bug 439405 in ubuntu "GDM and KDM both respawn at restart from ubiquity only installs" [Undecided,New]15:44
aradavmor2, I will comment that it also happens in virtualbox for normal installations15:47
davmor2wow pretty wallpapers for a change :)15:48
davmor2hmmmmmm15:48
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* ara takes ubuntu server i386 default install16:16
fader_I'm downloading kubuntu amd64 dvd, but it'll be a bit before I can start testing16:21
* fader_ needs to get a new USB disk so he can stay rsync'd and not have to download from scratch all the time.16:22
* ara takes a break16:46
jtatumara, no meeting today, correct? i won't be able to make it either way17:00
slangasekdoes someone have contact info for stinger30au?  he/she seems to have a hw regression w/ beta (http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3103/4) but didn't link a bug report17:12
davmor2slangasek: no sorry17:17
cgreganNo meeting? I just accepted the invite for this week17:35
aradavmor, I was out for about an hour (and don't have the backlog), can you update me please? anything important?17:57
davmor2ara: nothing desperately important I don't think17:58
aradavmor2, what's the issue with edubuntu?17:58
davmor2when sbeattie ran a test on it for encrypted lvm it seems to be missing the ecrypted bit17:59
aradavmor2, ok. thanks for the update18:01
mdeslaurI'm testing the netbook images. Are we expecting the restricted drivers to get installed automatically, or have non-functioning wireless out of the box on a dell mini 9?18:57
aralool, ^18:58
fader_mdeslaur: It's been my experience that jockey should run when you boot into the installed image if you have the wired network connected19:01
fader_Happens that way on the HP mini 1000 as well19:01
davmor2mdeslaur: is there a Hardware Drivers in the system section19:01
mdeslaurfader_: I don't have a wired connection now19:02
mdeslaurdavmor2: yes, Hardware Drivers is there19:02
davmor2mdeslaur: does it show the wireless?19:03
mdeslaurdavmor2: no, the window is empty (probably because I don't have a wired connection right now)19:03
davmor2mdeslaur: no that should matter the restricted modules should be in the install they just need enabling19:04
davmor2mdeslaur: infact I'll rephrase that they should be on the install media19:05
davmor2try inserting the usb drive and then check again19:06
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mdeslaurdavmor2: I installed from a usb cd-rom drive (since it was an .iso). Even with the media inserted, Hardware Drivers has a blank window.19:08
mdeslaurso I guess I need to open a bug report19:08
davmor2mdeslaur: open up software sources in system19:08
mdeslaurdavmor2: is this the user experience we're looking for? Manually enabling the installation media to be able to see the hardware drivers magically appear in jockey?19:10
davmor2mdeslaur: what does it say in the cdrom section at the bottom?  If it lists the cd is it check or unchecked? if it's listed and uncheck check it and reload the repos then try again19:10
davmor2mdeslaur: no but if it works we can at least add it to the bug report19:11
mdeslaurdavmor2: I checked the cdrom section, but when I hit "close" and "reload", I get "An error occured" because I don't have network connectivity19:12
davmor2mdeslaur: can you disable the others for a minute and reload again19:13
mdeslaurdavmor2: yeah, hold on19:13
davmor2mdeslaur: if this works then it might worth finding out if there is a way to run jockey during the install or something you see :)19:14
mdeslaurdavmor2: ok, I disabled all the internet software sources, and reloaded. When I open jockey, it still doesn't list anything19:14
davmor2Meh19:14
mdeslaurd'oh19:15
mdeslaurtrying with an ethernet connection now19:15
davmor2mdeslaur: thanks for takin the time to try it anyway19:15
davmor2mdeslaur: don't forget to re-enable your repos19:16
mdeslaurdavmor2: np19:16
mdeslaurbah, even with ethernet connection, jockey doesn't suggest anything19:17
davmor2mdeslaur: what wifi card is it?19:19
davmor2and a daft question is the rfkill switch on or off?19:19
mdeslaurdavmor2: Broadcom BCM4312, and the mini 9 doesn't have an rfkill switch19:20
sbeattiewoo, that's impressive. after going xubuntu jaunty->karmic, my tty screens are blinking at me at the setting up console font and keymap stage.19:31
davmor2Wow priiiitty19:33
slangasekedubuntu respin posted19:38
davmor2slangasek: thanks19:38
* ara resyncs19:43
* davmor2 thinks that fader_ has a trip switch for netsplits to get out of working, Oooppppsss he's back19:43
fader_Heh19:44
fader_What'd I miss?19:44
davmor2all the test need to be respun and we all united to vote you to retest everything ;)19:45
davmor2fader_: did you say your were netbooking tomorrow?19:46
fader_davmor2: I am, the ones that are in the Lexington office... that's only two though19:46
fader_cr3 has the rest in Montreal19:46
davmor2ah is one an acer aspire one?19:47
fader_davmor2: The Aspire One is in Montreal with cr319:47
davmor2someone just dropped this in #u-uk https://launchpad.net/bugs/43641819:48
ubot4`Launchpad bug 436418 in casper "Installation from USB media fails on Acer Aspire One" [Undecided,New]19:48
fader_davmor2: We might sweet-talk cr3 into trying that out :)19:48
cr3folks, I'm still waiting on a replaced SSD card for the AAO19:50
cr3it's been shipped yesterday, so maybe Friday if we're lucky19:50
davmor2I've not had problems.  Only on my dying drive19:50
cr3for now, I can just confirm that nothing installs on my AAO :)19:51
davmor2down to me then you pair of gits ;)19:51
fader_Heh19:53
davmor2cr3: I thought fader_ was good at excuses to get out of work but you take the biscuit ;)19:54
fader_davmor2: How do we know he didn't break the drive on purpose?19:59
davmor2fader_: Yeah sat in the office juggling netbooks20:02
loolmdeslaur, ara, davmor2: Thanks I think it's a High bug20:04
loolmdeslaur, ara, davmor2: I think we miss some packages in ship-live20:04
loolCan you please sub ubuntu-unr to the bug once it's file?20:04
aralool, :( :( :(20:04
loolthanks a lot20:04
mdeslaurlool: sure, LP: #43953020:05
aralool, is this beta critical?20:06
loolmdeslaur, ara: Hmm actually the ship-live seed only differs in the langpacks with desktop20:06
loolara: Depends20:06
loolmdeslaur: And the desktop ISO works?20:06
mdeslaurI may be related to the fact that I installed without ethernet connectivity20:06
mdeslaurlool: I just installed in oem-mode _with_ an ethernet cable, and jockey worked20:06
loolmdeslaur: That points at packages available in Ubuntu but not on the image20:07
loolmdeslaur: Ideally we ship them on the CD to have people get their hardware working20:07
loolmdeslaur: Can you identify which package it is?20:07
mdeslaurlool: but during the livecd part, jockey does list the drivers available20:08
loolmdeslaur: But cant install?20:08
mdeslaurlool: can install them during the livecd. But after installation, jockey doesn't list any drivers available.20:08
mdeslaurlool: let me reinstall it a second time20:08
loolmdeslaur: Wifi is broadcom?20:09
loolmdeslaur: The jockey log shows some errors there20:09
loolhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/32755089/.var.log.jockey.log.txt20:09
lool2009-09-30 13:54:34,462 DEBUG: Could not instantiate Handler subclass __builtin__.BroadcomWLHandler from name BroadcomWLHandler20:09
looletc.20:09
loolmdeslaur: It would be interesting to a) identify which package is needed on your systme and b) try regular Ubuntu instead of UNR20:09
mdeslaurlool: yeah, it's a Broadcom BCM4312 on a mini 920:10
loolI suspect it will be the same for regular Ubuntu20:10
loolmdeslaur: Apparently keybuk knows about it20:13
loolmdeslaur: 21:13 < Keybuk> basically all of karmic, you have to manually install  bcmwl-kernel-source20:14
loolara, mdeslaur: Given that the bug was known for a long time, I dont think it's beta critical, as ugly at it seems, but perhaps we should release note it if that's popular20:14
mdeslaurI don't think it's the same issue20:16
davmor2well looks like ltsp is ballsed up20:37
fader_Anybody got a clue what project to report a bug about kubuntu not shutting down/rebooting from the GUI?20:47
fader_I'm sure there's one more specific than 'kubuntu' :)20:47
davmor2fader_: you broke kde20:49
davmor2works for me :P20:49
fader_davmor2: Yeah, not for me, even after a reboot from the terminal.   ('sudo reboot' works fine)20:49
davmor2fader_: you know it's not gnome right off button is bottom left ;)20:51
* fader_ stabs davmor2 with his pointy pointy mouse cursor.20:51
pedro_is cdimage.u.c getting a bit slow or is just my conn ?20:52
pedro_i wouldn't be surprised20:52
davmor2fader_: you know you need to click once and wait for the dialogue to come up right not being funny now20:53
davmor2if you actually click anywhere else it disappears as soon as it opens20:53
fader_davmor2: Yeah :P  I click 'leave - restart', then get the dialogue, then click 'restart'.  After that, nothing.  I can't get the dialogue back if I try again, but everything else works normally20:53
davmor2I've asked Riddell to come here20:55
fader_ta20:55
davmor2fader_: explain how you broke kubuntu20:55
fader_heh20:55
fader_After doing a typical install from the DVD, it doesn't reboot from the GUI.  I click the K menu, then leave, then select 'restart'20:56
fader_I get the dialogue box asking if I really want to, and click the button because I do.  The dialogue goes away and that's it.20:56
fader_I can open a terminal from the K menu and say "sudo reboot" and poof, but other than that, nothing20:56
fader_If I click "leave" and "restart" again, I don't get the dialogue20:56
ScottKThere's a bug on that.20:57
ScottKOnly happens on the first one.20:57
Riddellthere's a bug on the logout issue, ubiquity should reboot fine20:57
fader_ScottK: Okay, I haven't found it yet but I'll keep looking :)20:57
fader_Right, ubiquity was okay20:57
fader_This is after install20:57
Riddelloh phew20:57
fader_Heh20:57
ScottKRiddell: Anything we can get to help us figure out why?20:57
fader_I'll try another install and see if it happens again20:57
ScottKfader_: I'll find you the bug.  I filed it.20:57
ScottKfader_: It doens't happen every time.20:57
fader_ScottK: It doesn't happen on every boot, or on every install?20:58
ScottKOnly on first boot, not every install.20:58
fader_(I rebooted via CLI and got the same behavior after booting)20:58
ScottKOK.20:58
ScottKWell the one time it happened to me, it was just the first time.20:58
fader_Hmm, let me reboot again and see what happens20:59
ScottKIf you've got it reproducibly, then we ought to save the install for troubleshooting.20:59
fader_ScottK: Looks like I do21:00
ScottKRiddell: Suggestions on figurin this out?21:00
ScottKfader_: Does your bug look like bug 43116421:00
ubot4`Launchpad bug 431164 in kdebase-workspace "Shutdown widget/power button touch inoperative for first boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43116421:00
RiddellScottK: probably by starting with an unpatched kdebase-workspace and also a trunk kdebase-workspace and see if that fixes something21:01
Riddellalso doing a logout with no apps running21:01
fader_It's very similar; I get the dialogue the first time I try it, but no reboot21:02
fader_And it persists across boots21:02
ScottKOK, maybe not the exact same issue then.21:02
* ScottK really has to run.21:02
fader_It's a VM so if anyone wants a copy I can provide it21:02
fader_Otherwise I can hold onto this image for a brief time to help troubleshoot, but it's 8G so I can't keep it forever :)21:03
fader_Reported as bug 43960521:07
ubot4`Launchpad bug 439605 in kdebase-workspace "KDE does not reboot from the GUI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43960521:07
fader_Anything aside from dmesg, lspci -vnvn, /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog that might be useful?21:07
tsonculhello all21:40
tsonculis there a 0930.2 coming for UNR, or should I test .1?21:41
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slangasekdavmor2: no test results at all in yet for edubuntu?22:13
slangasekara: hi22:13
davmor2slangasek: updating I'm just killing off the ubuntu install22:13
davmor2on that next22:13
slangasekara: you marked your migration assistant test as a fail (http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3104/179) - was that because of the linked bug, or were there other problems?22:14
slangasekara: (my confusion stems from the bug being marked as non-critical and the test being marked as a failure; I'm hoping this was an error in our favor :)22:17
davmor2slangasek: I can run it against vista and xp tomorrow morning22:18
slangasekdavmor2: well, that's cutting things rather close if there is a problem, so I'm hoping it's a false-negative22:19
davmor2slangasek: well if I get my intel box back I can test against vista in about 20 minutes but it has the ltsp install on22:23
slangasekdavmor2: I think it's probably best for you to continue on with what you're doing presently, and hopefully ara will clarify soon22:24
davmor2slangasek: mind you I'll have an xp box free soon22:24
fader_davmor2: Sorry, meant to get to the edubuntu images by now but got hung up on the kubuntu dvd22:25
fader_I can still grab some of them this evening though22:25
davmor2fader_: It's okay I got time it's only 10:3022:25
fader_Heh22:25
araslangasek, only the linked bug22:46
araslangasek, if the test case is "migration", then it failed. But the installation went through properly22:47
davmor2fader_, cr3: don't worry I'll do your acer aspire one test now while I'm waiting for edubuntu to burn22:49
* fader_ hugs davmor2.22:50
slangasekara: so the migration failed entirely because of the bookmarks problem?22:54
slangasekara: in either case I guess we should document / escalate your bug, I'm just trying to figure out if this is OMGKITTENS broken or "that's a shame it doesn't work" broken :)22:55
cr3davmor2: thanks, I'm starting to run out of excuses22:56
davmor2cr3: just stop juggling with the netbooks, or at least if you can't stop don't drop them ;)22:57
cr3cya folks, I need to jet22:58
davmor2fader_: One flawless AAO unr install23:09
fader_\o/23:14
fader_davmor2: Any chance you could run checkbox on it?23:15
davmor2I can run the system testing that is on it for you23:17
davmor2disabled fingerprint and firewire it don't have em23:18
fader_davmor2: That's the one... can you let me know if you see any problems?23:18
fader_Yeah, sounds good :)23:18
davmor2mic test fails cause the side to side bar for the test shuts down to quickly23:23
fader_Hmm23:23
fader_Does the mic work though?23:23
davmor2the test runs for nearly long enough for you to blink23:24
davmor2yet the hardware works :)23:24
fader_davmor2: Awesome, thanks!23:25
davmor2fader_: same for external mic23:27
davmor2oh and I can't report a bug against it, it's not a genuine ubuntu package23:28
fader_davmor2: Cool.  For now it's good enough to know the hardware works; we can troubleshoot checkbox sometime when it's not beta image testing time :)23:29
fader_davmor2: Thanks for the help!  It'll knock another system from 'red' to 'green' in my hardware report23:29
fader_The removing packages step after the kubuntu dvd install is... not speedy.23:33
fader_:(23:33
davmor2fader_: That's because it's designed to remove your life23:41
davmor2fader_: https://edge.launchpad.net/+hwdb/+fingerprint/c69722ecac764861be52925fa50b4dcc23:43
fader_Life?  What is this 'life' of which you speak?23:45

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