[04:46] <tsoncul> Hello people
[07:01] <ara> stgraber, hello, are you around?
[07:05]  * ara takes ubuntu desktop i386 oem setup
[07:21] <ara> morning yofel_
[08:06]  * ara takes ubuntu desktop i386 auto-resize
[08:08]  * sbeattie is currently doing kubuntu desktop manual partition installs.
[08:18] <ara> sbeattie, does side-by-side work for you?
[08:19] <sbeattie> I haven't tried.
[08:31] <davmor2> morning all
[08:32] <ara> morning davmor2
[08:52]  * ara takes i386 ubuntu desktop only free software 
[10:28] <sbeattie> davmor2: you were seeing gdm respawn over and over again?
[10:28] <davmor2> yeah on wubi
[10:29] <ara> sbeattie, I also get it in virtualbox
[10:29] <sbeattie> okay, same here.
[10:32] <ara> sbeattie, do we have a mapping somewhere of isotracker logins -> lp logins?
[10:35] <sbeattie> ara: not that I can see; http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/ gets you the closest, where you can at least see a given users email address.
[10:37] <ara> sbeattie, ok, thanks :)
[10:47] <davmor2> why can't I find the bug I wrote on it meh
[10:50] <ara> davmor2, maybe someone set it as invalid?
[10:51] <ara> davmor2, have you tried searching for any kind of status?
[10:51] <davmor2> ara: I was searching my email
[11:33] <ara> schwuk, ping
[11:42] <schwuk> hi ara
[12:41]  * ara -> lunch
[12:55]  * davmor2 starts 32bit netboot while debugging kubuntu wubi fail
[13:08] <davmor2> fader_: Morning everything is working oh apart from kubuntu wubi by the look of it
[13:08] <fader_> davmor2: w00t!
[13:09] <davmor2> oh and normally wubi is a bit flakey on install
[13:09] <davmor2> and well you'll find out the rest I'm sure ;)
[13:09] <fader_> Doesn't look like anyone's tested xubuntu much
[13:10] <fader_> If it's still like that this afternoon I'll hit it.  Got some other stuff I need to do first though :/
[13:10] <davmor2> I'm going to hit that after kubuntu but knock yourself out dude :)
[13:11] <davmor2> need to go for lunch now ttyl
[13:11] <fader_> Heh, you'll probably have it done before I'm ready, but I'll keep looking :)
[13:11] <davmor2> ara: after lunch can you possible kill of the other ubuntu alternate tests please
[13:12] <davmor2> ara: although you can leave ltsp
[13:20]  * sbeattie is doing an edubuntu dvd ubiquity install
[13:21] <sbeattie> ... on i386
[13:49] <ara> davmor2, what do you mean?
[13:54] <davmor2> ara: Ubuntu alt 64 has 3 tests left is there any chance you could do those those at all?
[13:55] <ara> davmor2, 64bits is always a pain in my 32bits installation, but I'll try to tweak virtualbox for it
[13:56] <davmor2> ara: that's okay I can hit them
[14:18]  * ara takes xubuntu i386 desktop manual partitioning
[14:24] <sbeattie> argh, edubuntu debian-install fails when setup with lvm+crypt due to missing cryptsetup package.
[14:34]  * fader_ takes xubuntu amd64 entire disk
[14:44]  * sbeattie has a xubuntu desktop i386 side-by-side going.
[14:48]  * pedro_ doing xubuntu alt i386
[14:52]  * ara thinks that the usplash theme for xubuntu is cute :)
[14:53] <davmor2> ara: did they get the fireflys in?
[14:53] <fader_> ara: It always makes me think of a hamster running in a wheel to provide power for a mechanical laptop.  Very steampunk :)
[14:55] <stgraber> ara: I'm now.
[15:12] <sbeattie> bah, got the gdm respawn thing with xubuntu as well.
[15:12] <fader_> sbeattie: Under what circumstances?  I haven't seen it on amd64 yet...
[15:13] <sbeattie> i386 livecd, virtualbox guest, direct-install (not from livecd environment), at lesat this time anyway.
[15:16] <davmor2> sbeattie: you get it kdm too
[15:19]  * sbeattie steps away to feed the rugrats.
[15:44] <davmor2> sbeattie, ara: how's this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/439405
[15:44] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 439405 in ubuntu "GDM and KDM both respawn at restart from ubiquity only installs" [Undecided,New]
[15:47] <ara> davmor2, I will comment that it also happens in virtualbox for normal installations
[15:48] <davmor2> wow pretty wallpapers for a change :)
[15:48] <davmor2> hmmmmmm
[16:16]  * ara takes ubuntu server i386 default install
[16:21] <fader_> I'm downloading kubuntu amd64 dvd, but it'll be a bit before I can start testing
[16:22]  * fader_ needs to get a new USB disk so he can stay rsync'd and not have to download from scratch all the time.
[16:46]  * ara takes a break
[17:00] <jtatum> ara, no meeting today, correct? i won't be able to make it either way
[17:12] <slangasek> does someone have contact info for stinger30au?  he/she seems to have a hw regression w/ beta (http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3103/4) but didn't link a bug report
[17:17] <davmor2> slangasek: no sorry
[17:35] <cgregan> No meeting? I just accepted the invite for this week
[17:57] <ara> davmor, I was out for about an hour (and don't have the backlog), can you update me please? anything important?
[17:58] <davmor2> ara: nothing desperately important I don't think
[17:58] <ara> davmor2, what's the issue with edubuntu?
[17:59] <davmor2> when sbeattie ran a test on it for encrypted lvm it seems to be missing the ecrypted bit
[18:01] <ara> davmor2, ok. thanks for the update
[18:57] <mdeslaur> I'm testing the netbook images. Are we expecting the restricted drivers to get installed automatically, or have non-functioning wireless out of the box on a dell mini 9?
[18:58] <ara> lool, ^
[19:01] <fader_> mdeslaur: It's been my experience that jockey should run when you boot into the installed image if you have the wired network connected
[19:01] <fader_> Happens that way on the HP mini 1000 as well
[19:01] <davmor2> mdeslaur: is there a Hardware Drivers in the system section
[19:02] <mdeslaur> fader_: I don't have a wired connection now
[19:02] <mdeslaur> davmor2: yes, Hardware Drivers is there
[19:03] <davmor2> mdeslaur: does it show the wireless?
[19:03] <mdeslaur> davmor2: no, the window is empty (probably because I don't have a wired connection right now)
[19:04] <davmor2> mdeslaur: no that should matter the restricted modules should be in the install they just need enabling
[19:05] <davmor2> mdeslaur: infact I'll rephrase that they should be on the install media
[19:06] <davmor2> try inserting the usb drive and then check again
[19:08] <mdeslaur> davmor2: I installed from a usb cd-rom drive (since it was an .iso). Even with the media inserted, Hardware Drivers has a blank window.
[19:08] <mdeslaur> so I guess I need to open a bug report
[19:08] <davmor2> mdeslaur: open up software sources in system
[19:10] <mdeslaur> davmor2: is this the user experience we're looking for? Manually enabling the installation media to be able to see the hardware drivers magically appear in jockey?
[19:10] <davmor2> mdeslaur: what does it say in the cdrom section at the bottom?  If it lists the cd is it check or unchecked? if it's listed and uncheck check it and reload the repos then try again
[19:11] <davmor2> mdeslaur: no but if it works we can at least add it to the bug report
[19:12] <mdeslaur> davmor2: I checked the cdrom section, but when I hit "close" and "reload", I get "An error occured" because I don't have network connectivity
[19:13] <davmor2> mdeslaur: can you disable the others for a minute and reload again
[19:13] <mdeslaur> davmor2: yeah, hold on
[19:14] <davmor2> mdeslaur: if this works then it might worth finding out if there is a way to run jockey during the install or something you see :)
[19:14] <mdeslaur> davmor2: ok, I disabled all the internet software sources, and reloaded. When I open jockey, it still doesn't list anything
[19:14] <davmor2> Meh
[19:15] <mdeslaur> d'oh
[19:15] <mdeslaur> trying with an ethernet connection now
[19:15] <davmor2> mdeslaur: thanks for takin the time to try it anyway
[19:16] <davmor2> mdeslaur: don't forget to re-enable your repos
[19:16] <mdeslaur> davmor2: np
[19:17] <mdeslaur> bah, even with ethernet connection, jockey doesn't suggest anything
[19:19] <davmor2> mdeslaur: what wifi card is it?
[19:19] <davmor2> and a daft question is the rfkill switch on or off?
[19:20] <mdeslaur> davmor2: Broadcom BCM4312, and the mini 9 doesn't have an rfkill switch
[19:31] <sbeattie> woo, that's impressive. after going xubuntu jaunty->karmic, my tty screens are blinking at me at the setting up console font and keymap stage.
[19:33] <davmor2> Wow priiiitty
[19:38] <slangasek> edubuntu respin posted
[19:38] <davmor2> slangasek: thanks
[19:43]  * ara resyncs
[19:43]  * davmor2 thinks that fader_ has a trip switch for netsplits to get out of working, Oooppppsss he's back
[19:44] <fader_> Heh
[19:44] <fader_> What'd I miss?
[19:45] <davmor2> all the test need to be respun and we all united to vote you to retest everything ;)
[19:46] <davmor2> fader_: did you say your were netbooking tomorrow?
[19:46] <fader_> davmor2: I am, the ones that are in the Lexington office... that's only two though
[19:46] <fader_> cr3 has the rest in Montreal
[19:47] <davmor2> ah is one an acer aspire one?
[19:47] <fader_> davmor2: The Aspire One is in Montreal with cr3
[19:48] <davmor2> someone just dropped this in #u-uk https://launchpad.net/bugs/436418
[19:48] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 436418 in casper "Installation from USB media fails on Acer Aspire One" [Undecided,New]
[19:48] <fader_> davmor2: We might sweet-talk cr3 into trying that out :)
[19:50] <cr3> folks, I'm still waiting on a replaced SSD card for the AAO
[19:50] <cr3> it's been shipped yesterday, so maybe Friday if we're lucky
[19:50] <davmor2> I've not had problems.  Only on my dying drive
[19:51] <cr3> for now, I can just confirm that nothing installs on my AAO :)
[19:51] <davmor2> down to me then you pair of gits ;)
[19:53] <fader_> Heh
[19:54] <davmor2> cr3: I thought fader_ was good at excuses to get out of work but you take the biscuit ;)
[19:59] <fader_> davmor2: How do we know he didn't break the drive on purpose?
[20:02] <davmor2> fader_: Yeah sat in the office juggling netbooks
[20:04] <lool> mdeslaur, ara, davmor2: Thanks I think it's a High bug
[20:04] <lool> mdeslaur, ara, davmor2: I think we miss some packages in ship-live
[20:04] <lool> Can you please sub ubuntu-unr to the bug once it's file?
[20:04] <ara> lool, :( :( :(
[20:04] <lool> thanks a lot
[20:05] <mdeslaur> lool: sure, LP: #439530
[20:06] <ara> lool, is this beta critical?
[20:06] <lool> mdeslaur, ara: Hmm actually the ship-live seed only differs in the langpacks with desktop
[20:06] <lool> ara: Depends
[20:06] <lool> mdeslaur: And the desktop ISO works?
[20:06] <mdeslaur> I may be related to the fact that I installed without ethernet connectivity
[20:06] <mdeslaur> lool: I just installed in oem-mode _with_ an ethernet cable, and jockey worked
[20:07] <lool> mdeslaur: That points at packages available in Ubuntu but not on the image
[20:07] <lool> mdeslaur: Ideally we ship them on the CD to have people get their hardware working
[20:07] <lool> mdeslaur: Can you identify which package it is?
[20:08] <mdeslaur> lool: but during the livecd part, jockey does list the drivers available
[20:08] <lool> mdeslaur: But cant install?
[20:08] <mdeslaur> lool: can install them during the livecd. But after installation, jockey doesn't list any drivers available.
[20:08] <mdeslaur> lool: let me reinstall it a second time
[20:09] <lool> mdeslaur: Wifi is broadcom?
[20:09] <lool> mdeslaur: The jockey log shows some errors there
[20:09] <lool> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32755089/.var.log.jockey.log.txt
[20:09] <lool> 2009-09-30 13:54:34,462 DEBUG: Could not instantiate Handler subclass __builtin__.BroadcomWLHandler from name BroadcomWLHandler
[20:09] <lool> etc.
[20:09] <lool> mdeslaur: It would be interesting to a) identify which package is needed on your systme and b) try regular Ubuntu instead of UNR
[20:10] <mdeslaur> lool: yeah, it's a Broadcom BCM4312 on a mini 9
[20:10] <lool> I suspect it will be the same for regular Ubuntu
[20:13] <lool> mdeslaur: Apparently keybuk knows about it
[20:14] <lool> mdeslaur: 21:13 < Keybuk> basically all of karmic, you have to manually install  bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:14] <lool> ara, mdeslaur: Given that the bug was known for a long time, I dont think it's beta critical, as ugly at it seems, but perhaps we should release note it if that's popular
[20:16] <mdeslaur> I don't think it's the same issue
[20:37] <davmor2> well looks like ltsp is ballsed up
[20:47] <fader_> Anybody got a clue what project to report a bug about kubuntu not shutting down/rebooting from the GUI?
[20:47] <fader_> I'm sure there's one more specific than 'kubuntu' :)
[20:49] <davmor2> fader_: you broke kde
[20:49] <davmor2> works for me :P
[20:49] <fader_> davmor2: Yeah, not for me, even after a reboot from the terminal.   ('sudo reboot' works fine)
[20:51] <davmor2> fader_: you know it's not gnome right off button is bottom left ;)
[20:51]  * fader_ stabs davmor2 with his pointy pointy mouse cursor.
[20:52] <pedro_> is cdimage.u.c getting a bit slow or is just my conn ?
[20:52] <pedro_> i wouldn't be surprised
[20:53] <davmor2> fader_: you know you need to click once and wait for the dialogue to come up right not being funny now
[20:53] <davmor2> if you actually click anywhere else it disappears as soon as it opens
[20:53] <fader_> davmor2: Yeah :P  I click 'leave - restart', then get the dialogue, then click 'restart'.  After that, nothing.  I can't get the dialogue back if I try again, but everything else works normally
[20:55] <davmor2> I've asked Riddell to come here
[20:55] <fader_> ta
[20:55] <davmor2> fader_: explain how you broke kubuntu
[20:55] <fader_> heh
[20:56] <fader_> After doing a typical install from the DVD, it doesn't reboot from the GUI.  I click the K menu, then leave, then select 'restart'
[20:56] <fader_> I get the dialogue box asking if I really want to, and click the button because I do.  The dialogue goes away and that's it.
[20:56] <fader_> I can open a terminal from the K menu and say "sudo reboot" and poof, but other than that, nothing
[20:56] <fader_> If I click "leave" and "restart" again, I don't get the dialogue
[20:57] <ScottK> There's a bug on that.
[20:57] <ScottK> Only happens on the first one.
[20:57] <Riddell> there's a bug on the logout issue, ubiquity should reboot fine
[20:57] <fader_> ScottK: Okay, I haven't found it yet but I'll keep looking :)
[20:57] <fader_> Right, ubiquity was okay
[20:57] <fader_> This is after install
[20:57] <Riddell> oh phew
[20:57] <fader_> Heh
[20:57] <ScottK> Riddell: Anything we can get to help us figure out why?
[20:57] <fader_> I'll try another install and see if it happens again
[20:57] <ScottK> fader_: I'll find you the bug.  I filed it.
[20:57] <ScottK> fader_: It doens't happen every time.
[20:58] <fader_> ScottK: It doesn't happen on every boot, or on every install?
[20:58] <ScottK> Only on first boot, not every install.
[20:58] <fader_> (I rebooted via CLI and got the same behavior after booting)
[20:58] <ScottK> OK.
[20:58] <ScottK> Well the one time it happened to me, it was just the first time.
[20:59] <fader_> Hmm, let me reboot again and see what happens
[20:59] <ScottK> If you've got it reproducibly, then we ought to save the install for troubleshooting.
[21:00] <fader_> ScottK: Looks like I do
[21:00] <ScottK> Riddell: Suggestions on figurin this out?
[21:00] <ScottK> fader_: Does your bug look like bug 431164
[21:00] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 431164 in kdebase-workspace "Shutdown widget/power button touch inoperative for first boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/431164
[21:01] <Riddell> ScottK: probably by starting with an unpatched kdebase-workspace and also a trunk kdebase-workspace and see if that fixes something
[21:01] <Riddell> also doing a logout with no apps running
[21:02] <fader_> It's very similar; I get the dialogue the first time I try it, but no reboot
[21:02] <fader_> And it persists across boots
[21:02] <ScottK> OK, maybe not the exact same issue then.
[21:02]  * ScottK really has to run.
[21:02] <fader_> It's a VM so if anyone wants a copy I can provide it
[21:03] <fader_> Otherwise I can hold onto this image for a brief time to help troubleshoot, but it's 8G so I can't keep it forever :)
[21:07] <fader_> Reported as bug 439605
[21:07] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 439605 in kdebase-workspace "KDE does not reboot from the GUI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439605
[21:07] <fader_> Anything aside from dmesg, lspci -vnvn, /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog that might be useful?
[21:40] <tsoncul> hello all
[21:41] <tsoncul> is there a 0930.2 coming for UNR, or should I test .1?
[22:13] <slangasek> davmor2: no test results at all in yet for edubuntu?
[22:13] <slangasek> ara: hi
[22:13] <davmor2> slangasek: updating I'm just killing off the ubuntu install
[22:13] <davmor2> on that next
[22:14] <slangasek> ara: you marked your migration assistant test as a fail (http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3104/179) - was that because of the linked bug, or were there other problems?
[22:17] <slangasek> ara: (my confusion stems from the bug being marked as non-critical and the test being marked as a failure; I'm hoping this was an error in our favor :)
[22:18] <davmor2> slangasek: I can run it against vista and xp tomorrow morning
[22:19] <slangasek> davmor2: well, that's cutting things rather close if there is a problem, so I'm hoping it's a false-negative
[22:23] <davmor2> slangasek: well if I get my intel box back I can test against vista in about 20 minutes but it has the ltsp install on
[22:24] <slangasek> davmor2: I think it's probably best for you to continue on with what you're doing presently, and hopefully ara will clarify soon
[22:24] <davmor2> slangasek: mind you I'll have an xp box free soon
[22:25] <fader_> davmor2: Sorry, meant to get to the edubuntu images by now but got hung up on the kubuntu dvd
[22:25] <fader_> I can still grab some of them this evening though
[22:25] <davmor2> fader_: It's okay I got time it's only 10:30
[22:25] <fader_> Heh
[22:46] <ara> slangasek, only the linked bug
[22:47] <ara> slangasek, if the test case is "migration", then it failed. But the installation went through properly
[22:49] <davmor2> fader_, cr3: don't worry I'll do your acer aspire one test now while I'm waiting for edubuntu to burn
[22:50]  * fader_ hugs davmor2.
[22:54] <slangasek> ara: so the migration failed entirely because of the bookmarks problem?
[22:55] <slangasek> ara: in either case I guess we should document / escalate your bug, I'm just trying to figure out if this is OMGKITTENS broken or "that's a shame it doesn't work" broken :)
[22:56] <cr3> davmor2: thanks, I'm starting to run out of excuses
[22:57] <davmor2> cr3: just stop juggling with the netbooks, or at least if you can't stop don't drop them ;)
[22:58] <cr3> cya folks, I need to jet
[23:09] <davmor2> fader_: One flawless AAO unr install
[23:14] <fader_> \o/
[23:15] <fader_> davmor2: Any chance you could run checkbox on it?
[23:17] <davmor2> I can run the system testing that is on it for you
[23:18] <davmor2> disabled fingerprint and firewire it don't have em
[23:18] <fader_> davmor2: That's the one... can you let me know if you see any problems?
[23:18] <fader_> Yeah, sounds good :)
[23:23] <davmor2> mic test fails cause the side to side bar for the test shuts down to quickly
[23:23] <fader_> Hmm
[23:23] <fader_> Does the mic work though?
[23:24] <davmor2> the test runs for nearly long enough for you to blink
[23:24] <davmor2> yet the hardware works :)
[23:25] <fader_> davmor2: Awesome, thanks!
[23:27] <davmor2> fader_: same for external mic
[23:28] <davmor2> oh and I can't report a bug against it, it's not a genuine ubuntu package
[23:29] <fader_> davmor2: Cool.  For now it's good enough to know the hardware works; we can troubleshoot checkbox sometime when it's not beta image testing time :)
[23:29] <fader_> davmor2: Thanks for the help!  It'll knock another system from 'red' to 'green' in my hardware report
[23:33] <fader_> The removing packages step after the kubuntu dvd install is... not speedy.
[23:33] <fader_> :(
[23:41] <davmor2> fader_: That's because it's designed to remove your life
[23:43] <davmor2> fader_: https://edge.launchpad.net/+hwdb/+fingerprint/c69722ecac764861be52925fa50b4dcc
[23:45] <fader_> Life?  What is this 'life' of which you speak?