[00:23] <greg-g> Technoviking: and not in the local folder?
[00:23] <greg-g> (I have no clue how to help, just asking as it seems weird)
[02:20] <Technoviking> greg-g: delete the local folder does not the folder remotely
[02:36] <greg-g> Technoviking: weird.
[03:05] <jerknextdoor> i uninstalled ubuntuone a while back because i didn't use it much.  i reinstalled today and can't seem to get it to do anything other than report bugs.
[03:58] <blueglasses> hi
[03:58] <blueglasses> this is the same channel? o__O
[03:59] <blueglasses> ah no... its not, sorry, its probably my x client, since I parted
[04:00] <blueglasses> I've been using dropbox and ubuntu one for a while
[04:00] <blueglasses> I wonder what would happen if... you create a meltpot between the two, like...
[04:01] <blueglasses> if you put ubuntu-one folder as the selected dropbox folder
[04:02] <blueglasses> would I be creating a syncronization point between the two servers? what consequencies can this have?
[04:03] <blueglasses> any clues?
[04:04] <blueglasses> would I  be creating a mirror, and if so, if I host a site inside one, am I creating a mirror site on the other?
[04:05] <blueglasses> does ubuntu one has any support for creating shortcuts to the web content directly?
[04:07] <blueglasses> is anyone even reading this?
[04:10] <blueglasses> I just thoght about this because it would be nice to have a backup of all my files weather i'm using one system or the other
[04:12] <blueglasses> I kind of like thinking right now about ubuntu-one as the private folder and dropbox as the public one
[04:14] <blueglasses> I can even imagine a client wich connects to both, syncronizes one to the other, or, chooses wich files go to each, so that you can directly choose between privacy or public stuff, but i think using nautilus is enough for that job
[13:15]  * jblount waves good morning
[13:21] <teknico> jblount, hi :-)
[14:01] <urbanape> silly question: Is the link in the Privacy pref pane for removing individual cookies the only real cookie browser in Firefox?
[14:05] <teknico> urbanape, I see a "Show Cookies" button in that pane
[14:06] <teknico> not aware of anything else, except going straight to the file, if it's still there :-)
[14:19] <urbanape> teknico, that's bizarre.
[14:19] <urbanape> I see lots of white space on that pane.
[14:20] <teknico> urbanape, you mean grey space? ;-)
[14:20] <urbanape> heh, yes.
[14:22] <urbanape> teknico, http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/32115/cookies.png
[14:23] <teknico> urbanape, wow, that's sparse :-)
[14:24] <urbanape> yeah, wonder what's up.
[14:25] <teknico> urbanape, http://imagebin.org/65874
[14:26] <urbanape> teknico, what version of FF are you using?
[14:26] <teknico> urbanape, 3.5.3 - Mozilla Firefox for Ubuntu canonical - 1.0
[14:27] <urbanape> ah, I see
[14:27] <urbanape> I had it on a different overall setting.
[14:27] <teknico> "canonical" actually lowercase :-/
[14:27] <teknico> urbanape, some restricted profile?
[14:28] <urbanape> If you select the top pull-down and choose "Remember history" it internalizes all those settings.
[14:28] <urbanape> if you choose "Use custom settings for history" you get the full form.
[14:29] <urbanape> jblount: you aboot?
[14:32] <aquarius> urbanape, that's what mine looks like, too
[14:32] <aquarius> developer toolbar has a cookie browser in it for the current domain
[14:36] <jblount> urbanape: yessir
[14:36] <urbanape> heya, how's it going?
[14:36] <urbanape> wondering if I can help with anything for the u1 redesign
[14:37] <jblount> I'm doing pretty good, the /files/ ui is giving me trouble, but a lot of that is combing through old yucky css.
[14:37] <jblount> Once that's done, I'm 80%, so I'm trying to keep my head down and knock that out.
[14:39] <urbanape> excellent
[15:00] <teknico> MEETING BEGINS (SOM): aquarius, CardinalFang, dobey, jblount, rodrigo_, statik, teknico, urbanape, vds
[15:00] <teknico> Welcome to the Ubuntu One Developers desktop+ meeting. Please say "me" if you are here to attend, and tell us what you're up to, using the DONE, TODO and BLOCK markers.
[15:00] <teknico> me
[15:00] <rodrigo_> me
[15:00] <CardinalFang> good idea, teknico.
[15:00] <CardinalFang> me.
[15:00] <teknico> CardinalFang, credit goes to aquarius :-)
[15:01] <vds> me
[15:01] <teknico> four out of nine, come on guys!
[15:02] <teknico> second call for aquarius, dobey, jblount, statik, urbanape
[15:02] <urbanape> woop, me
[15:02] <CardinalFang> Give a little more time.
[15:03] <teknico> CardinalFang, no way! ;-P
[15:03] <jblount> e
[15:03] <jblount> or me
[15:03] <aquarius> me
[15:04] <dobey> me
[15:04] <teknico> third and final call for statik
[15:04] <teknico> ok, let's go
[15:05] <teknico> DONE: followed up on contacts web UI planning with joshuahoover; completed and landed the branch that disables the Funambol tests (#438710); completed and proposed the last branch for adding/editing contacts (#406315); done reviews
[15:05] <teknico> TODO: do more reviews; implement contacts deletion (#406314); revise the contacts web ui interface according to the use cases, wireframes and design that came out of the sprint (#399664)
[15:05] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:05] <teknico> next: rodrigo_
[15:05] <rodrigo_> • DONE: Conflict dealing in evo-couchdb. Landed 2 tomboy syncing fix branches (now on edge/production). Released and packaged evo-couchdb 0.3.1. Tomboy syncing debugging for edge/production
[15:05] <rodrigo_> • TODO: Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Propose couchdb-glib/evo-couchdb for GNOME 2.29. Store UUIDs for postal addresses. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. Simplify tomboy syncing config UI.
[15:05] <rodrigo_> • BLOCKED: no
[15:05] <rodrigo_> next CardinalFang
[15:07] <teknico> vds, please jump ahead
[15:07] <CardinalFang> DONE: Found a fixed packaging bug, #438800.  Fixed config-file case-sensitivity bug, #439307.  Helped with #422243.  Closed #435943 after verification.
[15:07] <vds> DONE: big refactoring of watch daemon, talked with lucio and thisfred and aquarius about oauth, cloud_server and twisted
[15:07] <CardinalFang> TODO: Work out peer-peer replication bug with kenvandin-.
[15:07] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: Cloud couch borken.  couchdb 0.10 not released yet.
[15:07] <vds> TODO:  go ahead till the daemon does all it is supposed to do!
[15:07] <vds> BLOCKED: nope
[15:07] <vds> urbanape: please
[15:07] <urbanape> DONE: Processed a lot of the bugs I own for Bindwood and ubuntuone-servers. Started working on #434951 but might need a little guidance (only two places in lib/ubuntuone call set_cookie - the services/ and payment/ - maybe that's enough?)
[15:07] <urbanape> TODO: Finish up my secure-cookies and Bindwood manifest branch and get it pushed.
[15:07] <urbanape> BLOCK: None
[15:07] <urbanape> jblount: hammertime
[15:07] <CardinalFang> Sorry.  Getting bug numbers.
[15:07] <jblount> DONE: Web Design sprint in London, travel / sick days
[15:07] <jblount> TODO: Finish up /files/ redesign implementation, also the rest of the website.
[15:07] <jblount> BLOCKED: My email filters suddenly stopped working, so communication through email is temporarily broken. No spare cycles to fix in the near future.
[15:07] <jblount> aquarius: tag
[15:08] <aquarius> ⚀ DONE: landed web notes UI (no CSS yet); fixed a few DC bugs
[15:08] <aquarius> ⚁ TODO: fix unknownloginerror; look at oauth-enabling twisted
[15:08] <aquarius> ⚂ BLOCKED:
[15:08] <aquarius> ⚃ BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 1
[15:08] <aquarius> dobey, go
[15:08] <dobey> ☺ DONE: Finished #434886, Fixed #369488
[15:08] <dobey> ☹ TODO: Backport python-oauth, Update ubunet-dependencies, File RT for install on servers
[15:08] <dobey> ☹ BLCK: None.
[15:08] <teknico> MEETING ENDS (EOM)
[15:08]  * jblount notes that he needs to file a few more bugs about the work he's doing
[15:08] <teknico> thanks everyone
[15:09] <teknico> jblount, joshuahoover may have already filed some, josh h.?
[15:09] <joshuahoover> teknico, jblount: i have not filed those for jblount yet...was waiting to chat with him :)
[15:10] <joshuahoover> jblount: if you send me a quick email with a list of tasks, i'll get them in lp today
[15:10] <jblount> joshuahoover: Can we do a voice chat in ~ an hour? I need to step out for a moment, but would like to catch up.
[15:10] <joshuahoover> jblount: sure
[15:35] <lamalex> Hey, what's the story on the contact store?
[15:36] <lamalex> Will that been seen for karmic or has it been retargetted
[15:38] <dobey> evolution-couchdb is already installed by default in karmic i think
[15:38] <dobey> you just have to add an address book in evolution
[15:38] <dobey> then you can put some or all of your contacts in it
[16:04] <lamalex> dobey: ah, we're not doing a central generalized UI, it's evolution centric?
[16:05] <dobey> lamalex: we're not building a new address book ui for karmic, no
[16:05] <lamalex> is that still planned? Lucid goal?
[16:06] <dobey> lamalex: there's an evolution backend (evolution-couchdb) and I think the kde guys were working on a couchdb backend for their address book API thing (which I can't seem to recall the name of)
[16:06] <dobey> there are no specific plans for a new address book ui, no
[16:06] <dobey> i'd love to work on the UI that I mocked up, but it really needs significant infrastructure work done first, which I haven't had time to work on either
[16:07] <dobey> hopefully i'll have time to get a bunch of the backend bits done for lucid though
[16:10] <lamalex> cool
[16:11] <dobey> was hoping to get some done for karmic, but had no time :)
[16:11] <aquarius> dobey, lamalex, the KDE thing is akonadi
[16:13] <dobey> oh yeah, akonadi
[16:13] <dobey> i knew it started with an a :)
[16:14] <dobey> (and was pretty sure there was a k in it, but beyond that i couldn't put it together)
[17:16] <joshuahoover> verterok, rmcbride: ever seen/heard of folks getting this error on a fresh install (in syncdaemon-exception log): OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/jae/.local/share/ubuntuone' -- the user created the dir manually & that fixed it but not sure why it wouldn't create that dir for him during the install
[17:17] <verterok> joshuahoover: hmm, I don't remember seeing that, is there a bug?
[17:17] <verterok> joshuahoover: with a full traceback, I'ld like to see that :)
[17:17] <joshuahoover> verterok: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/437471
[17:17] <joshuahoover> verterok: logs are attached :)
[17:17] <verterok> joshuahoover: cool, thatnks
[17:17] <verterok> *thanks
[17:20] <verterok> joshuahoover: looks like an oversight of my part, and a really silly bug, but it's a criticla one :(
[17:21] <verterok> joshuahoover: please asign it to me, I'll propose a branch in ~10 minutes
[17:21] <joshuahoover> verterok: you read my mind :)
[17:21] <verterok> *critical too
[17:21] <verterok> joshuahoover: :)
[17:25] <verterok> joshuahoover: actually this can't happen in a fresh install
[17:25] <joshuahoover> Chipaca: can i have you step into the time machine and try to remember if the following bug ever got a fix committed or not? (related to wakeups, which another user complained about just recently): https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/378221
[17:25] <joshuahoover> verterok: hmmm
[17:25] <Chipaca> joshuahoover: nope
[17:26] <Chipaca> joshuahoover: no, it never got fix committed
[17:26] <Chipaca> joshuahoover: instead it nearly broke syncdaemon
[17:26] <verterok> joshuahoover: yes, there is a bug, but it might happen in a case of migration from a very old client
[17:26] <Chipaca> joshuahoover: I mean: yes, it got fix committed. The fix broke syncdaemon and was thus rolled back.
[17:26] <verterok> joshuahoover: maybe installed an old client a while back, and now installed a new one
[17:26] <joshuahoover> verterok: ahh, ok, i would think if it happened on a fresh install, we'd see a lot more of these types of bugs
[17:26] <Chipaca> joshuahoover: so it got fix-uncommitted
[17:27] <joshuahoover> Chipaca: got ya...ok, i wanted to make sure that was the case and that it wasn't applied...thanks!
[17:31] <verterok> joshuahoover: btw, should this bug be file to the karmic package too?
[17:35] <joshuahoover> verterok: good question...i think we should...might want to double-check with statik to be sure
[17:35] <verterok> joshuahoover: branch proposed :)
[17:36] <joshuahoover> verterok: excellent! thank you!
[17:37] <joshuahoover> verterok: just in time too, i've got another one with the same problem...marking as duplicate
[17:39] <verterok> :)
[18:30] <nomnex> I have installed the client and just removed it because I did not understand the folders structure. Can someone explain me. It was one sync directory and one or two (I don't remember) sub-directories. What the purpose of the subdirectories. Thanks
[18:34] <dobey> nomnex: the only "sub-directory" is "Shared with Me" which is a symlink now. and it contains folders that others have shared with you
[18:35] <nomnex> thank, there s been a while. symlink is a hard link? to the server?
[18:37] <dobey> no. those folders are stored in a seprate location locally now
[18:38] <nomnex> I have miss read I guess. There's been a while I have removed it, but want to try again. I understand the main directory (I place the document I want to sync with others trough the server) but what's the purpose of the sub directory "share with me"? I am confused.
[18:39] <dobey> nomnex: if other people share their folders with you, they will appear under that directory, after they have been downloaded from the server
[18:40] <nomnex> Oh I see that make sens now. These people will have each a separate sub-sub directory or all the documents will appear in the Share with me sub dir?
[18:41] <dobey> they will be multiple folders, named like "folder from user name"
[18:42] <nomnex> Thank you. I did not have anyone to try with and I have been wondering for a while.
[18:43] <dobey> sure
[18:57] <nomnex> I have a problem. Error message installing the software.
[18:57] <dobey> what error message?
[18:57] <nomnex> it is a virtual application after downloading and it interrupts
[18:58] <dobey> i don't understand... what version of ubuntu are you on?
[19:00] <nomnex> I do again. (from the ubuntuone page, download the client) steps: Launch application window > apturl > ok > launch the download > Error: Package Ubutnu-on is virtual
[19:02] <dobey> i think you need to update your system, or possibly enable universe if it's not enabled
[19:02] <dobey> are you on ubuntu 9.04?
[19:03] <nomnex> oh! my bad, I have forgotten to download the PPA... sorry about it, I try again.
[19:10] <nomnex> yes 9.04. it all went fine this time :). thanks again for the help
[19:19] <rtg> hello everyone. I am testing UbuntuOne on 3 local laptops and it looks like the daemons do not communicate with the server on a regular basis, I.e. the files get updated only when disconnect/connect is performed or u1sync is called manually. Is it normal or it is just me?
[23:19] <thisfred> anyone have karmic running on a macbook? (I ask for someone else, I have not been converted)
[23:20] <benoitc> that's for me :)
[23:20] <benoitc> i'm tempted to say yes reading the wiki though
[23:28] <sysdoc> Has anyone else had a problem uploading a file through nautilus and it not showing up through the web interface?
[23:30] <sysdoc> Ubuntuone indicated that the file upload was successful, and I looked to see it from the web and there is no accounting for it by disk usage or otherwise