[00:37] <homebrewcider> hey there using Xubuntu, and Krusader, trying to copy files to server, can view files okay in server, but when copying get error message that failed to write file to xxx
[00:39] <ryguy> give it a little while, once someone notices someone asked a question they'll start helpin ya
[00:39] <ryguy> I'd help if I knew =/
[00:39] <ryguy> did you try opening krusader as root then copying them?
[00:40] <homebrewcider> first lot worked okay, now nothing
[00:40] <homebrewcider> that's what is confusing me
[00:41] <ryguy> try running this command `sudo cp FILE_HERE DESTINATION_HERE`
[00:41] <homebrewcider> in krusader?
[00:41] <ryguy> if it works as root it means your permissions have been messed up
[00:42] <ryguy> huh? in the terminal
[00:46] <jim___> .
[00:46] <ryguy> .?
[00:47] <ryguy> homebreacider: you come up with anything?
[00:48] <jim___> Hi. I'm a noob and just installed 8.04.1 on a thinkpad t30 p4 2.2 512mb, and it takes exactly 4 minutes to boot
[00:48] <jim___> Ideas?
[00:49] <ryguy> whats your computer specs?
[00:49] <jim___> P4 2.2ghz 512mb
[00:50] <jim___> What else do you need to know?
[00:50] <homebrewcider> not yet
[00:51] <homebrewcider> not thinking straight
[00:52] <ryguy> when you boot, does it say anything about "Booting from network" or anything like that? My computer tries to do that and I cant set it not to in the IOS so I have to press ESC everytime
[00:52] <ryguy> and that saves me at least 4~5 minutes
[00:53] <ryguy> where does it take long
[00:53] <jim___> I've never seen a dialogue, it just hangs when the progress bar is at about 1/4
[00:53] <jim___> Is there a way to boot it verbose so I can see what it's doing?
[00:54] <ryguy> im I dunno, lemme google around real quick =p
[00:54] <jim___> I tried some of that and this was one of the first hits :p
[00:54] <homebrewcider> as far as copying from one comp to another via command line "sudo cp (file on local computer) (location on remote computer where I want to copy to?)"
[00:55] <ryguy> jim___: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=499374
[00:55] <jim___> Thx
[00:55] <ryguy> homebrewcider oh I see what you're trying to do
[00:56] <ryguy> are you logged in as the same user as the last time it worked?
[00:56] <homebrewcider> yes, it finished copying one lot and wouldn't do the same thing again
[00:56] <homebrewcider> that was yesterday
[00:56] <homebrewcider> went to bed, trying again todfay
[00:56] <ryguy> jim then see what it hangs on, see if its unnecessary then turn it off in "Startup Applications"
[00:57] <ryguy> homebrew: you didnt reboot or anything?
[00:57] <homebrewcider> not at the time , no
[00:57] <ryguy> homebrew: what version of xubuntu are you on?
[00:57] <homebrewcider> 9.04
[00:58] <ryguy> did you try doing it in thundar?
[00:58] <homebrewcider> haven't got server showing up in thunar
[00:58] <ryguy> I recently switched to regular ubuntu, xubuntu was giving me too many problems
[01:03] <ryguy> could you send me a snapshot of whats going on here?
[01:03] <tehC0unt> hey ryguy
[01:04] <homebrewcider> can you give me a cli command to check permissions onthe server box? I'm logged in now via putty
[01:05] <ryguy> err.. not sure
[01:19] <WantsXubuntu> got my new xubuntu disc, on ubuntu now, anyone want to help me put in my puter
[01:19] <WantsXubuntu> dont want to mess up my clean ubu OS though
[01:23] <knome> so what do you want to do exactly?
[01:23] <knome> install xubuntu and remove ubuntu? have both?
[01:27] <WantsXubuntu> on ubuntu now bought xubuntu disc also
[01:27] <jim___> Bought?
[01:27] <knome> yes, what do you want to do?
[01:27] <WantsXubuntu> want a partition for xubu with opera 10 turbo form more speed
[01:28]  * jim___ starts selling xubuntu discs
[01:28] <knome> jim___, ondisc.com "sells" xubuntu discs for the price of *shipping*
[01:28] <WantsXubuntu> will leave this part for ubuntu with FF for all the bloated software
[01:28] <knome> jim___, it's actually illegal to ask more than burning/material/shipping costs.
[01:28] <ryguy> I bought two xubuntu cds as well =p
[01:29] <knome> WantsXubuntu, i'm not sure if you should create a new partition. just install package xubuntu-desktop (you don't actually even need the cd) and you can use xubuntu - just select xfce session from the gdm login screen.
[01:29] <ryguy> yeah "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[01:29] <knome> ryguy, we're probably going to update the artwork for the cd soon after karmic so you might have to buy a few more ;)
[01:30] <ryguy> I'm prolly gonna, if xubuntu decides to keep up with its bugs =/ I had alot of problems
[01:30] <ryguy> I got them for repairing computers and running on super slow computers
[01:30] <knome> ryguy, i hope they got fixed. we do everything we can.
[01:31] <ryguy> I'd help if I knew C
[01:31] <ryguy> =/ I'm a ruby guy
[01:31] <ryguy> anyways WantsXubuntu: run that command then...
[01:31] <ryguy> ah
[01:31] <ryguy> nvm
[01:31] <knome> there's also need for triaging bugs
[01:31] <ryguy> Well alot of the bugs I encountered were specific to xubuntu, but came from third party apps
[01:31] <ryguy> like conky
[01:32] <knome> conky? what's that :)
[01:32] <ryguy> I only encountered the problem on xubuntu
[01:32] <ryguy> =O
[01:32] <ryguy> its..amazing
[01:32] <ryguy> hold on lemme get you a screenie
[01:33] <Balsaq> laptop battery dies was just heare as WantsXubuntu its me
[01:33] <ryguy> http://linuxowns.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/conky.png
[01:33] <knome> ryguy, right :)
[01:34] <ryguy> It runs on your desktop and updates at a set interval, completely customizable
[01:34] <ryguy> and awesome
[01:34] <knome> Balsaq, my comment:: i'm not sure if you should create a new partition. just install package xubuntu-desktop (you don't actually even need the cd) and you can use xubuntu - just select xfce session from the gdm login screen.
[01:34] <ryguy> anyways, Balsaq: open terminal and type "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[01:34] <knome> ryguy, i see it can be the reason some people might want to migrate to linux
[01:34] <ryguy> then when its done, logout and goto sessions and click Xubuntu
[01:35] <knome> ryguy, i want (need) a clearest possible desktop though
[01:35] <Balsaq> dont want the desktop? want the speed of the OS or is it not faster than ubu?
[01:35] <ryguy> balsaq, no we're talking about an application.
[01:35] <ryguy> xubuntu just uses less memory
[01:35] <knome> Balsaq, the reason why xubuntu is faster is because of it's desktop environment etc., and xubuntu-desktop installs those packages for you
[01:36] <ryguy> cause of the window manager is xfce
[01:36] <Balsaq> my impression was xub is like ubu with less stuff in too make it faster is that right?
[01:36] <ryguy> different applicatiolns
[01:36] <knome> Balsaq, no, not really.
[01:36] <ryguy> with smaller memory footprints
[01:36] <Balsaq> you say if i change my destop it make it faster
[01:37] <Balsaq> so i thought,,,hmmm ubub is runnin good now, lets have some fun, put xubub on it own partition and test them side by side
[01:37] <ryguy> isnt it a live disk?
[01:37] <ryguy> just throw in in there and run the live version and see if you like it
[01:37] <Balsaq> i have 10g HD still have 3.5 left over
[01:38] <ryguy> 10g..? whats your system specs?
[01:38] <Balsaq> i have it on the dosk yes boughtit
[01:38] <Balsaq> 400mgz dell dim xps r400 675sdram 10g hd 8mb ati
[01:38] <Balsaq> 768sdram i meant
[01:39] <ryguy> yikes
[01:39] <Balsaq> old but runs ubu well
[01:39] <Balsaq> want more speed but dont want to messup the ubu
[01:40] <ryguy> yeah, just open up the terminal
[01:40] <Balsaq> was slow then today put a new flatscreen on her and now is reallly fast once i get on the net?
[01:40] <ryguy> type "sudo aptitude intsall xubuntu-desktop" (without the quotes)
[01:40] <ryguy> bah
[01:40] <ryguy> "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[01:40] <Balsaq> dont know anyhting bout runnin apps/
[01:41] <ryguy> okay, listen
[01:41] <ryguy> follow me step by step now
[01:41] <ryguy> goto Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[01:41] <Balsaq> and want to keep my ubub desk as is want al clean partition install of xubu
[01:41] <ryguy> no listen you dont need to do that
[01:42] <ryguy> you'll still have all your applications and everything
[01:42] <Balsaq> yeah but if i do i will feel like i havent touched my ubu...i am  afakin puter d*mbas*
[01:42] <Balsaq> freakin puter d*mmy here
[01:42] <ryguy> lol alright
[01:42] <ryguy> its okay
[01:42] <Balsaq> now you see...
[01:42] <ryguy> you want ubuntu, but faster right?
[01:42] <Balsaq> very superstuious
[01:43] <ryguy> so you want to install xubuntu which is based on ubuntu only looks different and is faster
[01:43] <Balsaq> gut ubub in here flippin perfect will never risk it
[01:43] <elninja> What's ubub?
[01:43] <Balsaq> well i thought xubu had a lot less in it and ran al ot faster and would match it with opera 10 turbo
[01:43] <Balsaq> ubuntu
[01:43] <Balsaq> is ubu poor typing skills
[01:43] <elninja> oh
[01:43] <ryguy> it doesnt have less
[01:44] <ryguy> it has applications that do the same thing as the applications you currently have only they run faster
[01:44] <Balsaq> try to answer fst...and a couple coors
[01:44] <Balsaq> like to keep everything separate
[01:44] <ryguy> then get a separate computer -_-
[01:45] <Balsaq> ubub with ff over here...xubu with opera over her
[01:45] <Balsaq> well now that you mention it i have another old dell business puter on the way as we speak
[01:45] <knome> Balsaq, there's really just no sense in that.
[01:45] <Balsaq> only 4 years old or so
[01:45] <ryguy> i know ut thats what he wants..
[01:46] <ryguy> alright then pop in the disk, then when the setup comes to the partition manager, choose the option to "Create partition in remaining space" or something along those lines
[01:46] <knome> Balsaq, xubuntu does not run any slower if you install with ubuntu. also, it doesn't "touch" your ubuntu any way. and if it does, you can remove it.
[01:46] <Balsaq> wiil not mess with this set up unless separate partition till i have a flippin clue
[01:46] <knome> okay...
[01:46] <Balsaq> i get it done but once everything works i get reeeaaalllyyy friggin touchy
[01:47] <Balsaq> the wholem kill w98 ubuntu install took 6 hours
[01:47] <Balsaq> then took 3 hours when i took 9.04
[01:47]  * ryguy facepalms
[01:48] <Balsaq> so i guess we'll throw it on the business puter i got comin in then...wil it run faster..sound like you all think its just the same
[01:49] <ryguy> what? thats exactly the opposite of what we've been saying..
[01:49] <Balsaq> well you guy donwant to help partiton the xubu in here right?
[01:49] <ryguy> xUBUNTU is UBUNTU running Xfce
[01:50] <ryguy> x/UBUNTU/ is /UBUNTU/ running /X/fce
[01:50] <Balsaq> o
 alright then pop in the disk, then when the setup comes to the partition manager, choose the option to "Create partition in remaining space" or something along those lines
[01:51] <Balsaq> will it "mingle" with my ubu?
[01:51] <ryguy> how could it if its on another partition
[01:52] <Balsaq> so that partition offering is unascapable....wil happen no matter what
[01:53] <ryguy> I have no idea what you mean, or what you want. you could easily do this without making a new partition
[02:00] <Balsaq> i love clean install, i have upgrades or desktos that sort of mold in...if i choose...can i boot xubuntu-as aclean install even though i have ubuntu in here now, and not mess up the ubuntu, but actually end up with 2 partition, (1)ubuntu with FF (2.) xubuntu with opera...and actually do all this with ever risking my perfect clean ubuntu install? if there is any chance an idiot computer dikwad like me can mess that up i will put i
 alright then pop in the disk, then when the setup comes to the partition manager, choose the option to "Create partition in remaining space" or something along those lines
[02:05] <Balsaq> ok now, i  have 10g hard drive, 3.5 is gone, wha does xubu take up?
[02:06] <ryguy> umm 1 second
[02:06] <Balsaq> just so you know i tried this with my new puppy disc earlier and the guy in there couldnt get it done...
[02:07] <Balsaq> when it was supposed to boot puppy it sounded like a boot and then came right back to my ubuntu log inscren every time
[02:08] <ryguy> did you press ESC to get into grub?
[02:08] <Balsaq> i still have a bruise on my forehad from beating it on the wall as i tried over and over to poung it into the dell
[02:08] <ryguy> lol
[02:09] <ryguy> well this guy at a forum said: I've put Xubuntu on a 233Mhz/128Mb/2Gb
[02:09] <Balsaq> no the esc thing happened so fast i didnt have time and didnt kn0w enought to risk a fast move like that
[02:09] <Balsaq> but i saw that blinkin escape line now that you mentioned it
[02:09] <ryguy> lol you really are new to computers in general wrnt ya?
[02:09] <Legendre> howdy
[02:09] <ryguy> you just tap esc a bunch of times when you turn on the computer
[02:10] <ryguy> howdy thar
[02:10] <Legendre> So phase1 of the Edgy-2-Jaunty upgrade went reasonably well today
[02:10] <Legendre> but I've run into some oddities.. mostly with adding new users
[02:11] <ryguy> what? you realize that karmic is comming out in less than a month right
[02:11] <Legendre> for instance, when I call up the users/groups applet, it never asks for a password, and hence I can't add users or make any other changes.
[02:11] <Balsaq> but is xubu so close to ubu that it really is a non isuues or is it faster
[02:12] <Legendre> ryguy: this was my oppy' to get the work done, while the system was out of use for a week
[02:12] <Legendre> I'll load up II when it's available..
[02:12] <Legendre> err, KK
[02:13] <ryguy> oh my god balsaq. listen to me for the hundrenth time. x/UBUNTU/ is /UBUNTU/ running /X/fce. It has the same program types (text editor, music player, video player) that do the ssame things but just run faster
[02:13] <ryguy> its still UBUNTU
[02:13] <Legendre> so is this a known issue with JJ?
[02:14] <Legendre> yeah Balsaq, listen to ryguy.. same OS, different default desktop
[02:14] <Legendre> and trimmed to suit that desktop. Otherwise, all functionality remains or is available
[02:14] <ryguy> are you root when you try to make the changes?
[02:14] <Balsaq> so does it come in with FF on it
[02:14] <Legendre> yes
[02:15] <Legendre> Firefox is std.
[02:15] <ryguy> but you can uninstall it and install opera if you want
[02:15] <Balsaq> can i dump ff free up space and throw opera in ther
[02:15] <ryguy> "sudo aptitude purge firefox"
[02:15] <Balsaq> ok my screen doesnt always roll up?
[02:15] <knome> Balsaq, yes you can, but if you run a shared installation, firefox will also disappear from ubuntu.
[02:15] <Legendre> ryguy: I dont have the root act activated.. I have never activated it on *ubuntu
[02:16] <ryguy> Legendre, I mean like adding the users through sudo command
[02:16] <Legendre> with sudo ... what is it, adduser-app or something?
[02:16] <ryguy> not sure, I never added users before =s
[02:17] <Balsaq> no i wont do a shered one, want 2 separate installs on 2 separate patritions
[02:17] <Legendre> that's what I had to do, but it should have just begged for the pw when I called up the app.
[02:17] <Balsaq> gnome here....xge here.....ff here.....opera here
[02:17] <ryguy> Balsaq. for fucks sake
[02:17] <ryguy> for the third time
[02:17] <Legendre> as it has done in the past, on EE etc
 alright then pop in the disk, then when the setup comes to the partition manager, choose the option to "Create partition in remaining space" or something along those lines
[02:17] <ryguy> fourth now actually
[02:18] <Balsaq> ok here goes..will do it when i get the g4 up and running
[02:18] <knome> !language | ryguy
[02:18] <Legendre> Other odd thing.. When I create new users, they don't get the same homedir config as the 1st user
[02:19] <Legendre> for instance, no ~/Desktop
[02:19]  * ryguy grumbles
[02:20] <Legendre> it's like there's no /etc/skel
[02:20] <Legendre> guess I should take a look and see if it's there, come to think.. though I don't even know if the user-add app reads /etc/skel
[02:21] <knome> Legendre, use 'adduser' if you insist on adding users from command line
[02:27] <knome> i'm going to bed. good night/day everybody and enjoy xubuntu.
[02:28] <ryguy> night
[02:31] <balsaqgoingforit> losy my connection for a bit
[02:31] <balsaqgoingforit> now i logged into ubu and i see the xub icon on my desk
[02:32] <balsaqgoingforit> wants me too click on start pkg manager
[02:33] <balsaqgoingforit> i think my DOS screnns ran so fast that all mt partition choice flew by me at light speed
[02:34] <balsaqgoingforit> still here ryguy?
[02:40] <balsaqgoingforit> if i got xubuntu on my desktop does that mean it wants to run it off the live cd?
[03:01] <Mueslix> Hi, is anyone online right now?
[03:01] <Legendre> hi
[03:02] <Mueslix> Hey I was just wondering about how I would go about installing the 9.04 jaunty jackalope on my computer without a CD drive.
[03:03] <Mueslix> ok uh nevermind... I mixed up the version of xfce with the release of xubuntu
[03:04] <Mueslix> i'm already running 9.04
[03:04] <Mueslix> Thanks for all the help!
[03:04] <Legendre> =)
[03:37] <Legendre> So, anyone know about the new user creation issues in JJ?
[03:37] <Legendre> how to fix them?
[04:32] <Legendre> Whistling along, with the tumbling tumbleweeds..
[06:14] <balsaq> when i was at staples today, i spoke to a computer tech who informed of a type of buntu that is designed specifically for people who watch o lot of online videos. he said it had a lot of features built in to make them run right straight out of the box. has anyone heard of the name of this particular form of buntu...or tried it?
[06:16] <balsaq> cause my you tube vids arent palyin right...vids are falling wwwaaayyy behind the music?
[08:40] <twocarlo> anybody would like to recomen a good scanner for xubuntu
[12:49] <Whippy> hello
[12:50] <Whippy> i just installed 9.04 on my ps3 but the commands i try in the terminal to change the screen res give me an error
[12:52] <Whippy> "error open :-1"
[12:52] <Whippy> any help would be greatly appreciated
[12:53] <ablomen> what are the commands you are trying?
[12:56] <Whippy> sorry
[12:56] <Whippy> was afk
[12:57] <Whippy> i can get to the screen that shows the example and all the video sizes
[12:58] <Whippy> so i just tried the command in the .eg but modified to the correct standards for me
[12:58] <Whippy> and yea i just keep getting that "error open :-1" message
[13:02] <TheSheep> Whippy: what are the commands?
[13:05] <Whippy> ps3videomode -f 5
[13:05] <Whippy> is the one i need
[13:05] <Whippy> fullscreen yuv 1080p
[13:08] <TheSheep> !ps3
[13:09] <Whippy> oh my bad
[13:09] <Whippy> thx
[13:09] <TheSheep> no problem, we jsut know little about ps3
[14:34] <vojacekj> hi
[14:34] <vojacekj> i have one problem
[14:34] <vojacekj> I had xubuntu 8.10
[14:35] <vojacekj> and now i reinstall it to xubuntu 9.04
[14:35] <vojacekj> but my g-pen 450 is not working
[14:35] <vojacekj> can someone help me
[14:35] <vojacekj> ?
[14:37] <TheSheep> !broken
[14:42] <vojacekj> ok i tried to make it with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetup
[14:42] <vojacekj> but wehn i calibrate it and change the files and restart xubuntu the tablet is not workink
[14:43] <vojacekj> the mouse isnot moving
[14:44] <vojacekj> it is not broken i try it on windows and it worked
[14:45] <vinnl> vojacekj, the point is that we can't help until you say what exactly doesn't work
[14:46] <vinnl> !tablet
[14:46] <vinnl> Hmm :S
[14:46] <vojacekj> the kurzor isnt moving and pc doesnt detect tablet
[14:47] <vojacekj> in xubuntu 8.10 it work with the drivers from these page
[14:47] <vojacekj> but now not and i dont know where is problem
[15:24] <ubuntu> hi guys, i have installed xubuntu on a pendrive, to help me recover files from a broken windows installation... How do i map my windows partition for use in xubuntu?
[16:09] <twocarlo> hey ubuntu can you change your nick please
[16:10] <ajm> ok back in a while
[16:13] <KXDTRAU_MU> hello, i need help :)
[16:13] <vinnl> !ask
[16:13] <vinnl> :)
[16:13] <KXDTRAU_MU> i lost the taskbar :)
[16:13] <KXDTRAU_MU> somehow and now i cant find it
[16:13] <vinnl> !xfce4-panel
[16:14] <KXDTRAU_MU> oh..from applications menu?
[16:14] <vinnl> ubottu is wisdom itself :)
[16:14] <vinnl> KXDTRAU_MU, no, just press Alt+F2
[16:14] <vinnl> KXDTRAU_MU, do you still have the applicatiosn menu?
[16:14] <KXDTRAU_MU> The command "!xfce4-panel" failed to run:
[16:14] <KXDTRAU_MU> Failed to execute child process "!xfce4-panel" (No such file or directory)
[16:14] <KXDTRAU_MU> this is the error i get
[16:15] <KXDTRAU_MU> i did write it with ALT-F2
[16:15] <vinnl> KXDTRAU_MU, you have to run "xfce4-panel", without the exclamation mark (and without the quotes)
[16:15] <KXDTRAU_MU> ow yes :) now its working
[16:16] <vinnl> :)
[16:16] <KXDTRAU_MU> thanx a lot :)
[16:16] <KXDTRAU_MU> i started loving this,fantastic :)
[16:16] <vinnl> ^.^
[16:16] <KXDTRAU_MU> ok so
[16:16] <KXDTRAU_MU> i have another question
[16:16] <KXDTRAU_MU> i have 1.70 celeron and 300mb ram approx
[16:16] <KXDTRAU_MU> 256+218
[16:16] <KXDTRAU_MU> 128
[16:16] <KXDTRAU_MU> and when i open youtube
[16:17] <KXDTRAU_MU> some videos are so slow
[16:17] <KXDTRAU_MU> some are ok
[16:17] <vinnl> !enter
[16:17] <KXDTRAU_MU> how can i make all the videos?
[16:17] <KXDTRAU_MU> fast
[16:17] <vinnl> Don't really know, I sometimes have the problem as well, seems to be a problem with Flash since I also experience it on other operating systems
[16:17] <KXDTRAU_MU> for example, hd videos are impossible to watch
[16:18] <KXDTRAU_MU> i installed the flash,it is working great. WAV files were problem.
[16:18] <vinnl> KXDTRAU_MU, oh, that is probably because your computer isn't fast enough
[16:18] <KXDTRAU_MU> :)
[16:18] <KXDTRAU_MU> hehe 1.70 celeron its.from the dark ages :)
[16:19] <KXDTRAU_MU> which linux version do you offer?
[16:19] <KXDTRAU_MU> few people told me netbook
[16:19] <KXDTRAU_MU> Netbook from pendrivelinux website
[16:20] <vinnl> That's not a Linux version, that's a hardware type
[16:20] <KXDTRAU_MU> there is one version of it with 976mb
[16:20] <KXDTRAU_MU> as img file
[16:20] <KXDTRAU_MU> works from usb
[16:20] <KXDTRAU_MU> xubuntu
[16:20] <KXDTRAU_MU> netbook edition it was i guess.
[16:20] <KXDTRAU_MU> its in my other computer
[16:21] <vinnl> So what is your question? :P
[16:21] <KXDTRAU_MU> how can i make it faster or if i install other version,does it work faster?  :)
[16:22] <vinnl> There are other Linux distributions than Xubuntu which are (way) faster, but also less easy to use
[16:22] <vinnl> So basically, it depends on how much usability you're willing to sacrifice and how much work you're willing to invest in it
[16:22] <KXDTRAU_MU> hmmm
[16:23] <KXDTRAU_MU> actually,its ok with memory usage but i do see the cpu usage is always over 70 percent
[16:23] <KXDTRAU_MU> is this normal?
[16:23] <vinnl> Don't think so, but I know next to nothing about CPU
[16:23] <TheSheep> it's not
[16:23] <vinnl> You can open Applications->System->System monitor and check what it using all the CPU power
[16:23] <KXDTRAU_MU> hmmmm
[16:23] <TheSheep> use the system monitor to see what's using it
[16:24] <KXDTRAU_MU> yes,i was using it :)
[16:24] <vinnl> So, what is it? Firefox?
[16:24] <Sysi> my 2.4ghz celeron is on it's knees with flash..
[16:24] <KXDTRAU_MU> yes
[16:25] <KXDTRAU_MU> :)
[16:25] <vinnl> So does CPU usage drop when you close Firefox?
[16:25] <KXDTRAU_MU> nope
[16:25] <KXDTRAU_MU> its always over 35
[16:25] <KXDTRAU_MU> minimum 35 i did see
[16:26] <KXDTRAU_MU> anyway,in the next days i might find more options :)
[16:26] <KXDTRAU_MU> now its 1:30 in Sydney time :)
[16:26] <KXDTRAU_MU> thanks alot to everyone :) have a nice linuxy days. :)
[16:27] <KXDTRAU_MU> byes
[16:28] <vinnl> So, who wakes up in the morning and thinks "what a nice linuxy day it is again, today"? :P
[16:54] <floating> vinnl: I might. karmic beta is being released tomorrow, and am gonna try it
[16:54] <vinnl> floating, yeah, I need to get myself a CD burned as well... I need a fresh install anyways because I've kinda broken my current installation - just hope the liveCD stops freezing on me, otherwise I'll have to install using the Alternate CD, if that works
[16:55] <floating> i have not been very succesful with the livecd either, so i have been thinking same kind of things :)
[17:13] <MaloenBCN> Hi guise, having my friends IBM T30, curretnly with XUBU, how do i do graphics(compiz/screenlets) and audio?
[17:13] <MaloenBCN> i checked all the internets but no joy
[17:14] <TheSheep> "do"?
[17:14] <MaloenBCN> or should i DL hardy instead and follow this http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_8.04_(Hardy_Heron)_on_a_ThinkPad_T30
[17:14] <MaloenBCN> well, u know, drivers pls or ideas how to config
[17:16] <TheSheep> it should work out of the box
[17:16] <TheSheep> it doesnt?
[17:16] <MaloenBCN> well no audio and the graphics card is an ati radeon mobility 7500, that means no compiz
[17:17] <TheSheep> xubuntu doesn't come with compiz anyways
[17:17] <MaloenBCN> everything works fine, wifi card does with ndiswrapper
[17:17] <TheSheep> did you try the application->system->drivers?
[17:17] <MaloenBCN> yes i intalled from add/remove
[17:17] <TheSheep> !ati
[17:18] <MaloenBCN> u mean the hardware drivers? yes but did not detect anything
[17:20] <MaloenBCN> cool, and how should i proceed with the audio
[17:22] <TheSheep> !sound
[17:28] <MaloenBCN> cheers its copypasted, hell yeah i got work to do kthxbye
[17:54] <Ido_> Hey guys, I have a question. I'm talking from a machine with Xubuntu, and I want to install Samba, but I don't really know where to go in their website to install a version that fits Xubuntu...help please?
[17:57] <TheSheep> just install it from the xubuntu repository
[17:57] <TheSheep> using synaptic
[17:58] <likemindead> Or open a terminal and enter (without the quotes) "sudo apt-get install samba" Ido_.
[18:03] <Ido_> Guys, what's the keyboard shortcut for Terminal?
[18:05] <likemindead> Hmm...
[18:05] <likemindead> I'm not actually in Xubuntu at the moment. :-\
[18:07] <TheSheep> Ido_: there is none by default, you can set one up in keyboard settings
[18:07] <likemindead> That's what I thought. (It's Super+t in CrunchBang...)
[18:08] <Ido_> Alright...where can I find it in the Applications list meanwhile? (Sorry, really new to it)
[18:09] <TheSheep> Ido_: settings->keyboard settings
[18:13] <likemindead> Tilda FTW!
[18:13] <likemindead> Oh... :-\
[18:51] <premorphos> is there any better alternative to alsa in the latest dist?
[18:57] <likemindead> You should be able to use Pulse or OSS, premorphos.
[18:57] <likemindead> (As alternatives.)
[18:59] <premorphos> tnx likemindead are you using alsa and have you encountered any problems with mic capture
[19:00] <likemindead> I am using ALSA, but haven't used a mic at all.
[19:01] <Balsaq> was suggested to me thant if i change my desktop to xubuntu, rather than ubuntu 904-which i have now, that it may fix the problem i am having playing youtube videos. ..problem is they play real slow and the music plays great...but the video lags way behind the music?
[19:02] <Balsaq> 400mgz 768sdram 8mb ati
[19:02] <Balsaq> i know my puter cand di it cause it was doing it good on youtube with w98
[19:02] <likemindead> Your processor is 400MHz, Balsaq?
[19:02] <likemindead> 0_o
[19:03] <Balsaq> yup
[19:03] <Balsaq> 512 cache
[19:03] <likemindead> I'd try a lighter distro.
[19:03] <Balsaq> mmx p2
[19:03] <Balsaq> dont know distro
[19:03] <likemindead> CrunchBang would be my suggestion.
[19:03] <Balsaq> computer friggen dork here
[19:03] <Balsaq> cant program my way out of a wet paper bag
[19:04] <likemindead> distro is short for distribution. There are 300+ active Linux distros. :-)
[19:04] <Balsaq> heard the was a linux called linux mint all set up for playing videos online
[19:04] <Balsaq> but this OS i have is running perfect...just the youtube slow thing?
[19:04] <premorphos> im having the same problem but mine is 2,8GHz
[19:05] <Balsaq> wow 2.8?
[19:05] <Balsaq> thats why i think its just a driver or something
[19:05] <Balsaq> cause in my OS it says i have no drivers
[19:05] <Balsaq> got flash in here though
[19:06] <Balsaq> premorshos: what vidoe card do you have?
[19:06] <premorphos> i have have worked on this problem only thing i havent tried is the propetery drivers for the video card
[19:07] <premorphos> ati 9000igp
[19:07] <Balsaq> whew sounds like a big one
[19:07] <Balsaq> my puter is 11 years old
[19:07] <premorphos> same as yours?
[19:07] <premorphos> wow
[19:07] <Balsaq> same as mine?
[19:07] <premorphos> card
[19:08] <Balsaq> 8mb ati card here from 1998
[19:08] <Balsaq> i know ot can do it becasue it was doing it well with w98, but w98 couldnt do anything else ket freezing so i wiped it clean for ubuntu
[19:09] <Balsaq> runs like a new puter now, except for the utube...weird
[19:09] <premorphos> well this is an interesting problem. i had the same problem with xp there for i now have xubuntu
[19:10] <premorphos> it must be the ati.. culd it?
[19:10] <Balsaq> yeah at work we have xp pro on 4-5 year old dells and they struggle with utube
[19:11] <Balsaq> but yet my 11 year old dell was doing it fine even with the 8mb ati
[19:11] <Balsaq> and w98?
[19:11] <Balsaq> we need to find a driver to dpowmload i know it
[19:11]  * likemindead loathes ATI. :-(
[19:12] <premorphos> hav eyou tried any flash outside fire fox?
[19:12] <likemindead> Balsaq, I'd get an old NVIDIA card off of eBay for cheap.
[19:12] <Balsaq> well would love too, even just for fun..i guess it could be that ubuntu hates ols ati's
[19:13] <Balsaq> old*
[19:13] <premorphos> or get the propetery driver working. it might work
[19:14] <Balsaq> but my thing is...shouldnt i have had to download drivers when i went to ubuntu...driver that went along with the flash thing i did. a tech on here had me go into a part of buntu thatsaid which vid drivers i had and i went there and it was empty?
[19:15] <Balsaq> he said he would sleep on it and get back too me...he also told me which ubuntu features interefere and we checked it out and all the ones that interefere were laready NOT checked in add remove...buy i wrote em down if you want them
[19:16] <kakabates> Hello?
[19:16] <likemindead> !hi
[19:17] <kakabates> Wow...cool I got to the right place.
[19:17] <Balsaq> likeminded: if i do the ebay nvivida thing, how do i know if i can stuuf the card in my old dell?
[19:17] <likemindead> Balsaq, the free, open source drivers are included in the initial install.
[19:17] <Balsaq> o.thought you might says that, but yet none were listed in my place where it shows drivers accoerding to a tech guy in here
[19:18] <likemindead> Make sure you know whether your old Dell is PCI, PCI Express (PCI-E), or AGP, Balsaq.
[19:18] <kakabates> this is my first time on IRC.
[19:18] <Balsaq> ok i will look up the pci thing now have my original paperwork!
[19:18] <likemindead> I'd bet you have just PCI.
[19:18] <likemindead> But you might have an AGP slot.
[19:19] <likemindead> Something like an old GeForce 6200 might work for you.
[19:19] <likemindead> That's what I have in my ancient HP. It's PCI.
[19:20] <Balsaq> ati xpert 98d 8mb 3d 2x agp graphics card factory install???
[19:20] <Balsaq> pci dvd decoder card factory install
[19:20] <kakabates> Can I ask for help with getting a Xubuntu wireless connection to work properly?
[19:21] <premorphos> kakabates: yes you can
[19:21] <Balsaq> turtle beach montego a3d 64 voice pci sound card....sounds like i got pci's and agp's here!
[19:21] <premorphos> welcome by the way
[19:22] <kakabates> lucky me.....looks like i'm connected but i can't get the browser or any other app to access anything online
[19:22] <kakabates> ty
[19:23] <premorphos> Balsaq: if it does work for you, you got to tell me cus i could kill for getting to play flash games
[19:23] <Balsaq> youm mean if the nividia idea works?
[19:24] <premorphos> precise
[19:24] <Balsaq> see i was told by many people at dell and techy people that the video card helps with intensive things like games or engineering software, but for simple things like online videos it wont help???
[19:26] <Balsaq> that pat makes no sence too me, but then again...i am a computer flippin moron!
[19:26] <premorphos> kakabates: you are online since you are in an icq channel.. but what do you see if you click youre connection settings icon in the top right corner?
[19:26] <kakabates> ahhh....I know.  New to Linux sort of. Or at least new to the inner workings of linux. I just installed karmic from the alternate ISO on an old Satellite 4030 CDT
[19:27] <kakabates> on my my main computer right now and i have laptop next to me.
[19:29] <premorphos> !karmic
[19:30] <kakabates> ok let me get my head together so i can ask the right questions in the right places
[19:30] <premorphos> kakabates: try the #ubuntu+1 channel   this one is focused on xubuntu
[19:31] <Balsaq> premorphos: likemindead: do you agree with my statement at14:24?
[19:31] <kakabates> thanks prem....i should also grab myself a list of IRC commands.
[19:32] <premorphos> no prob
[19:33] <premorphos> Balsaq: i wasnt loged on at that time.. plz paste it
[19:33] <Balsaq> was told vid cards help with intense games but wont help play online vids (dell and techy people said it)
[19:38] <premorphos> oh yes i was logged on.. different timeline. well i wuled have  agreed till i tryed linux. since the driver that comes with the os is built by oss programers without the help of ati it does strange things
[19:40] <Balsaq> ok i see...now when the techy dude told me go look in aplace where it shoed my drivers, why is there no drivers listed? do you show drivers listed in your puter?
[19:40] <premorphos> companys like ati wasent much helpful towards the oss comunety before
[19:40] <Balsaq> yeah i can imagine that...but my puters says i have no drivers installed?
[19:41] <premorphos> mayby do you mean add/remove?
[19:41] <premorphos> under applications
[19:41] <vinnl> Balsaq, where does it say that?
[19:42] <Balsaq> well in add remove it has these ones checked: macro, adobe, movie....BUT the tech dude had me look somewhere in some driver file thingie and it was empty and he was stumped?
[19:42] <vinnl> Balsaq, did the tech dude know you were using Xubuntu?
[19:42] <vinnl> And what was the driver fiel thingy?
[19:42] <Balsaq> so i felt like there should be some drivers in that driver file box he led me into
[19:43] <Balsaq> no he knew i was on ubuntu but said try xubuntu
[19:43] <Balsaq> he thinks that xubuntu will take less of my power thus le tthe vids play at correct speed
[19:44] <Balsaq> then he said he will research it and get back too me...seemed confused cause my same puter ran the vids great with w98
[19:45] <Balsaq> yet the whole puter runs waaayyyy better on ubuntu
[19:45] <vinnl> Again: what was the driver file box? Was it Applications->System->Hardware Drivers?
[19:45] <Balsaq> yeah that one!!!
[19:46] <Balsaq> i have none in there i seem toremember him telling me to go there
[19:46] <vinnl> And what was your graphics card?
[19:46] <Balsaq> 8mb ati
[19:46] <Balsaq> but it worked great on w98
[19:46] <Balsaq> so i know i can do it
[19:47] <vinnl> Yeah I got that
[19:47] <vinnl> Do you have the exact card name?
[19:48] <Balsaq> yes in fact ahve all my original papers...ati xpert 98d 8mb 3d 2x agp graphics card factory install
[19:48] <TheSheep> !ati | Balsaq
[19:51] <Balsaq> binary drive? i am a comlete computer moron?
[19:51] <vinnl> drive*r*
[19:55] <Balsaq> nice like there but it seems to stop at ati radeon stuff 9300 and what have you....my old timer isnt listed
[19:55] <Balsaq> like =link i meant to say
[19:56] <Balsaq> no mention of ati xpert stuf on the link
[19:56] <Balsaq> i suppose i could follow the link instruction for ati cards that are not mine and pray...
[19:57] <vinnl> Not sure if that's wise
[19:57] <Balsaq> yeah i didnt think so...thats why i usually dont do the links everytime i go there as the bots tell me its not for me
[19:59] <Balsaq> but if i never solve i still will never put windows back i nhere it tortured me  every day for 11 years and this buntu runs perfect all the time
[19:59] <Balsaq> then...yesterday i bouth a new cheapie acer 18.5 in monitor an it runs even faster?
[20:00] <vinnl> Balsaq, something that *might* (but probably won't) work is to run an older version (preferably that still receives security updates, such as 6.06), which might still support your older card
[20:00] <Balsaq> bouth-bought*
[20:00] <vinnl> Ah, and you might buy a new graphics card :P
[20:00] <Balsaq> yeah not a bad idea...never thoought of the  6.06 idea?
[20:01] <Balsaq> i have installed ram...is an vid card install a big hassle?
[20:01] <vinnl> No idea, I've never done it :P
[20:02] <Balsaq> when i experimented with sdram i put double the amount in that dell says i can have and it worked great
[20:03] <premorphos> my RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP] isnt listed
[20:04] <Balsaq> see what i mean
[20:05] <Balsaq> wellluckily youtune vids are way down on my priority list...and out lil g4 lapper runs perfect
[20:06] <premorphos> vinnl: is there any other solution. you think R200 9100 might work?
[20:06] <vinnl> premorphos, what's your problem?
[20:08] <premorphos> same as Balsaq
[20:08] <vinnl> premorphos, and do you see a driver under Hardware Drivers?
[20:11] <premorphos> only a modem driver
[20:15] <premorphos> vinnl: in add/remove i can find the ati propetery driver but it is not installd
[20:15] <vinnl> premorphos, if it's not under Hardware Drivers then it's probably not meant for your card
[20:18] <premorphos> but still there is someting wrong since i cant even se the smallest flash vidd
[20:27] <Balsaq> premorphos: when you go into system-hardware drivers is your empt as is mine?
[20:27] <Balsaq> empty i meant?
[20:27] <premorphos> nope i have a modem driver there
[20:28] <Balsaq> say no proprietay drivers in use on this system and is empty when i go there
[20:28] <Balsaq> so can it hurt if i go load up on some"proprietary drivers"?
[20:29] <Balsaq> does this mean i have a chance!
[20:29] <vinnl> Balsaq, if proprietary drivers are listed there activating them might help
[20:29] <Balsaq> as i say...it says i have none and there is nothing listed at all
[20:30] <Balsaq> so do i have to put them in there
[20:30] <vinnl> No, if there are proprietary drivers available they should appear there automatically
[20:32] <Balsaq> so thats it then...no drivers
[20:32] <vinnl> Well, that's it when it comes to my help, but perhaps someone else reads this who can help
[20:33] <Balsaq> so i guess i go into the ubuntu driver place and see if any of those cards can be stuffed in my old dell...if they can go in my dell then i will know i can get the drivers for them? does that makes sence? kind of goin in backwards i guess?
[20:34] <vinnl> If that Dell also has Ubuntu then yes
[20:35] <Balsaq> well i am on the dell now and yes i put ubuntu 904 in it running it now
[21:22] <erik___> hey; i'm trying to get norwegian special keys to work in aterm - they work in the default xubuntu terminal - but i've been unsuccesful so far. my menus etc. are in english, and my LANG is en_US-UTF8..
[21:29] <Vinky> Hi, Im trying to install xubuntu on my laptop, but on the reboot it fails with /dev/disk/by-uuid/... does not exist
[21:33] <Vinky> trying in #ubuntu too
[21:56] <vinnl> NickDeNeger, nice name xD
[23:32] <Ido_> Hey guys, i'd like to know how to get to the Terminal program(?) in Xubuntu...