[00:20] <norberto> hee
[00:33] <MTGap_>  I can't seem to get koffice beta to install kpresenter (beta 2) there is some strange dependency error and I can't fix it with sudo apt-get -f install
[01:07] <chyetirie> Hi
[01:08] <chyetirie> If I want to get a google-chrome icon set up in the KDE panel, How do I do it?
[01:10] <jimmy_> hi
[01:15] <Fanfare> chyetirie: drag it from kmenu to panel, make sure its not locked
[01:17] <chyetirie> I've done it but the icon is missing. Any way to recover the chrome icon on the panel?
[01:18] <chyetirie> Ah got it!
[01:18] <chyetirie> thanks Fanfare:
[02:01] <tjblair> need help on why i cant delete songs off a flash drive
[02:02] <James147> tjblair: what filesystem dose the flash drive have?
[02:04] <tjblair> James147: how do you find the file system
[02:06] <James147> tjblair: pastebin the output of "mount" after the drice is mounted
[02:06] <tjblair> James147: i dont know how to do  any of what u just said
[02:07] <Fanfare> !pastebin |  tjblair
[02:08] <Fanfare> tjblair: go to kmenu open konsole then type mount
[02:08] <Fanfare> copy what mount outputs to pastebin then give us the returning url
[02:10] <tjblair> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/282588/
[02:10] <Fanfare> tjblair: it is mounted ReadOnly!
[02:11] <tjblair> how do i change it
[02:13] <tjblair> Fanfare: is the last one on the output
[02:13] <Fanfare> tjblair: i think so
[02:14] <tjblair> Fanfare: how do i fix it
[02:14] <Fanfare> well, manually unmount and mount with ReadWrite
[02:15] <tjblair> will i need my pass word?\
[02:15] <tjblair> will i need my pass word?\
[02:15] <Fanfare> usually u need to do it as root, so u need your password
[02:16] <tjblair> what if i dont remember my password
[02:16] <Fanfare> :-) your lost, as u cant do any administrative tasks
[02:17] <tjblair> o ok thanks ne ways
[02:18] <Fanfare> but why is it mounted readonly? thats the more important question...
[02:20] <tjblair> i dont know cause the guy who did it doesnt know better
[02:22] <Fanfare> well, setup of the flash is done by hal. dont think the "guy" did it...
[02:22] <Fanfare> but why dont u know your password?
[02:24] <dbgang> haha
[02:25] <dbgang> what are we talk about
[02:26] <Fanfare> lost password, ro mounted flashdrive
[02:27] <James147> tjblair: you should be able to use sudo (and you standard password) to do root stuff
[02:27] <dbgang> yeah,i an newer ,thanks
[02:28] <Fanfare> he seems not to know HIS password...
[02:29] <Fanfare> a victim of kubuntus autologin?
[02:29] <tjblair> na i know my password he just lets me use it
[02:30] <trappist> my monitor keeps shutting off while I'm watching movies if I don't get up and push a key or something once in a while.  how can I stop that?
[02:31] <Fanfare> try another player
[02:31] <James147> trappist: try disabling the screen saver, or lokking in power managment settings
[02:31] <trappist> James147: done and done, still happens
[02:31] <Fanfare> tjblair: ?
[02:32] <tjblair> i cant cause i dont know if he fuck my password up too
[02:32] <James147> trappist: advanced -> power managment it can over rule the power managent
[02:32] <trappist> wait I just found 'enable display power management' buried in the power management settings
[02:33] <Fanfare> tjblair: so u can do sudo umount /dev/sdc1 ?
[02:33] <tjblair> with out passwords
[02:34] <Fanfare> tjblair: its not your machine?
[02:34] <tjblair> no
[02:34] <tjblair> his
[02:35] <Fanfare> k
[02:35] <Fanfare> pull out the flash drive
[02:35] <tjblair> then what
[02:36] <Fanfare> tjblair: type tail -f /var/log/messages in console
[02:36] <Fanfare> plug in flash drive
[02:37] <Fanfare> pastebin what happens in messages   maybe well find there why drive is readonly
[02:40] <tjblair> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/282605/
[02:43] <Fanfare> tjblair: that is after u plugged the device back in?
[02:43] <tjblair> this is...
[02:45] <tjblair> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/282610/
[02:46] <tjblair> jkdj
[02:47] <Fanfare> tjblair: does the drive has any sort of lock switch!?
[02:47] <luis_> hey guys good nite 2 u all
[02:47] <tjblair> its not locked
[02:48] <tjblair> .,..
[02:48] <Fanfare> simply try pluging in with switch in other position... it says its locked...
[02:48] <luis_> i like to ask you i am interested on broadcasting music and stuff on internet so how can u create a radio in here? is there any tutorial?
[02:50] <tjblair> tjblair@tiny:~$ tail -f /var/log/messages
[02:50] <tjblair> Sep 30 20:47:35 tiny kernel: [250983.947364] usb 1-5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[02:50] <tjblair> Sep 30 20:47:35 tiny kernel: [250983.948391] scsi10 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[02:50] <tjblair> Sep 30 20:47:41 tiny kernel: [250988.957555] scsi 10:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Single   Flash Reader     1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
[02:50] <tjblair> Sep 30 20:47:41 tiny kernel: [250989.641090] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] 3921920 512-byte hardware sectors: (2.00 GB/1.87 GiB)
[02:50] <tjblair> Sep 30 20:47:41 tiny kernel: [250989.649292] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[02:50] <tjblair> Sep 30 20:47:41 tiny kernel: [250989.651053] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] 3921920 512-byte hardware sectors: (2.00 GB/1.87 GiB)
[02:50] <tjblair> Sep 30 20:47:41 tiny kernel: [250989.651983] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[02:50] <tjblair> Sep 30 20:47:41 tiny kernel: [250989.652019]  sdc: sdc1
[02:50] <tjblair> Sep 30 20:47:41 tiny kernel: [250989.672471] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
[02:50] <tjblair> Sep 30 20:47:41 tiny kernel: [250989.672668] sd 10:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[02:50] <tjblair> Sep 30 20:49:13 tiny kernel: [251081.484141] [02:50] <luis_> u shouldnt do this
[02:51] <luis_> use paste bin
[02:51] <tjblair> got ya
[02:51] <tjblair> lll\;....\
[02:52] <Fanfare> !pastebin | tjblair
[02:52] <Fanfare> tjblair: now recheck that mount says it has RW permissions
[02:53] <Fanfare> luis_: easiest way is to use vlc (videolanclient)
[02:53] <luis_> ok txs Fanfare
[02:54] <Fanfare> that is for occasional streams
[02:54] <luis_> VLC MEDIA PLAYER right?
[02:54] <Fanfare> yes
[02:54] <luis_> got it already didnt knew it was usefull to broadcast
[02:54] <luis_> :P
[03:02] <tjblair> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/282618/
[03:03] <Fanfare> tjblair: ? ok
[03:04] <tjblair> Fanfare: what should i do
[03:05] <Fanfare> well, as Write Protect is off you should now be able to do what you want on that drive...
[03:06] <Fanfare> you can type mount and see if ro is now replaced with rw ... but you could also simply try to delete that file  ...
[03:10] <Lillymon> If I go to hell, my punishment for all etenity will be to try and make an endlessly supply of new hardware work on Linux.
[03:12] <Lillymon> I have a Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000. I'm trying to record video and sound (it does sound) in VLC (since no one seems to have written a video capture program for KDE), and it doesn't work. Live video appears, so it can definitely see the webcam, but the output file is a blank .ps file no matter what settings I use.
[03:13] <Lillymon> Video from the webcam appears to be going to /dev/video0. Sound is a nightmare as usual. OSSv4 is in charge here, and sound appears to be going to either /dev/pcmin0 or /dev/mix0, no idea which. Nothing seems to get sound from either, ever.
[03:14] <Lillymon> If I can find any way to record video and sound in Kubuntu, I will be very happy.
[03:14] <Lillymon> I'd even work with raw output if I could get it.
[03:15] <Fanfare> Lillymon: if u know the devices, try mencoder
[03:17] <Lillymon> I think I may have just now found the devices.
[03:18] <Lillymon> After changing the audio input in VLC to /dev/oss/usb046d0990-1/pcmin0, it now outputs actual files. But still no sound.
[03:20] <Lillymon> There is clearly some sort of miscommunication going on here.
[03:21] <BubbaT> Hey. I've been a debian user, but want to move to kubuntu to get faster releases. It's not clear to me how to install it,
[03:22] <Lillymon> I could try MEncoder, but I'm not sure how that will help.
[03:23] <Lillymon> I'm also not sure how a command-line application would do me any more good than a graphical application in this situation.
[03:24] <BubbaT> Lillymon, what are you trying to do?
[03:25] <Lillymon> Record a video, with sound. One of those tasks where people frequently say "Well why are you running Linux then?".
[03:26] <Lillymon> I seem able to get video, but sound is another matter. It's possible OSS is my problem, though I'm loathe to switch back to ALSA for various reasons.
[03:26] <BubbaT> xvidcap, though I have to agree with most people. Last time I tried it on Linux it combined with my firewall to suck all the cycles out of the system.
[03:27] <Lillymon> I have a lot of cycles to give, and I'd be satisfied with pretty low-res video. I just want for it to be possible.
[03:27] <Lillymon> A proof of concept is my goal right now.
[03:27] <donnybrasco> Hi, I'm trying to install sketchup using WINE - can anyone help me with this?
[03:30] <Lillymon> I appear to get less success with XVidCap. No video and no sound.
[03:30] <Lillymon> It doesn't seem to know where the webcam is, not does it bother to ask.
[03:33] <Lillymon> So, Cheese is happy to take photos but locks up when it tries video. VLC records video in some esoteric format, but won't do sound. XVidCap looks nice but does nothing. MEncoder may be good, but I don't have any clue how it works.
[03:41] <Lillymon> My current version of OSS is 4.1-1052. The latest is 4.2-2000. Couldn't hurt to try.
[03:48] <`Onyx> I'm using open office spread sheet and I want to know how to stop it from automatically removing 0's from the start of numbers eg: 02/11
[04:12] <webbb82> at any given time how cany prosseses are you guys running in your system monitor i have a feeling mine is full of stuff i dont need
[05:01] <Guest50520> hey guys, the kdetwitter plasmoid doesn't update my friends timeline, can somebody help me with that? thanks in advance
[05:22] <donnybrasco> Hi, can anyone tell me where the application icons are stored in hardy?
[05:24] <donnybrasco> I'm trying to find the icon for firefox
[05:36] <corigo3> When I run sudo chmod 777 will it apply to all users? I don't see any change in permissions at the user level...
[05:40] <ulysses__> it should be
[05:40] <ulysses__> 777 means, everybody can do everything
[05:43] <corigo3> ulysses__: maybe it should 7777?
[05:44] <ulysses__> nono
[05:44] <ulysses__> the first number is the user, the second the group, the third is other
[05:44] <ulysses__> there is no fourth number
[05:59] <corigo3> so 776 is optimal. thanks
[06:03] <chx> hi. aside from amarok , if i start any audio player, i can't listen music on youtube videos with Flash 10 alpha x86_64
[06:09] <corigo3> chx: If I have Amarok running and try to start a call with Skype, it claims it can not access audio and cancels the call
[06:10] <chx> i dunno why this pulseaudio thing is there. what was wrong with Alsa?
[06:11] <corigo3> in Aptitude I'm getting  http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404 Not Found ... do I need to delete this repo, or is there an alternate solution?
[06:14] <corigo3> chx: Yes, need to get rid of Pulse for sure
[06:16] <corigo3> Use ALSA and JACK
[06:17] <corigo3> How can I select previous Kernel versions when starting up Kubunut?
[06:27] <chx> hey songbird works with gstreamer0.10-alsa installed yay
[07:22] <TechN9ne> is there a better EFFECTs program than the one that comes with Kubuntu 9.04?
[07:29] <TechN9ne> ??
[08:07] <AndySpain> good mornin!
[08:08] <AndySpain> can anybody help me? I cannot log into kde no more
[08:08] <AndySpain> .xsession-erros says "open: Permission denied"
[08:08] <AndySpain> I tried sudo chown -R /home/user/
[08:08] <AndySpain> same issues with other users or a new user
[08:09] <AndySpain> no error messages at login screen, after hitting enter I simply get the login screen again
[08:10] <AndySpain> ctrl+alt+f1 login works
[08:11] <AndySpain> I also did sudo rm -R /tmp and sudo rm -R /var/cache/apt because this arouse after an incomplete update process due to no free disk space
[08:13] <DarkriftX> anyone here know how to get error information from ktorrent?
[08:13] <jussi01> AndySpain: I dont know - seems as youve done the basics, youll probably have to wait a little till someone comes by and can help. Its kinda quiet here for the next couple of hours, so dont be supprised if it takes a little while
[08:16] <AndySpain> ok
[08:16] <AndySpain> thx, jussi01
[08:17] <jussi01> :) yw.
[08:17] <AndySpain> oh, I also found out that after rm tmp and sudo mkdir tmp I had to sudo chown 777 tmp to give write permissions to users
[08:18] <AndySpain> now on kdm login I give my username and pw and then I get a tiny konsole instead of the kde
[08:41] <kaddi> hello everyone :)
[08:56] <naught101> anyone know how I can get juk to read tags from .aac files? amarok reads them ok
[08:57] <kambal> hi everyone!
[08:57] <kambal> how do i install wine 1.1.30?
[08:58] <kambal> i tried sudo apt-get install (directory of wine) it doesnt work
[08:59] <Mamarok> kambal: why indication the directory, did you download a .deb package?
[09:00] <kambal> no its in tar.bz format
[09:00] <Mamarok> kambal: then it is the source you need to compile
[09:00] <kambal> how do i compile that?
[09:00] <Mamarok> why not get the .deb package?
[09:01] <kambal> where do in download the deb package?
[09:01] <Mamarok> kambal: well, probably at the same place you got that tarball from
[09:01] <kambal> what will i do to install wine?
[09:02] <Mamarok> kambal: where did you download that tarball from?
[09:02] <kambal> im using kubuntu 7.10
[09:02] <kambal> sourceforge.net
[09:03] <Mamarok> kambal: well, you are using a very old version, Gutsy is not supported anymore
[09:03] <Mamarok> you should upgrade first
[09:03] <kambal> is that so? the file .deb ive download doesnt work either, it must be the reason
[09:03] <Mamarok> !gutsy
[09:03] <Mamarok> èupgrade
[09:03] <Mamarok> !upgrade
[09:04] <kambal> but can i still use old version of wine?
[09:04] <Mamarok> kambal: well, the current version in Jaunty aka 9.04 is 1.0.1
[09:05] <kambal> will it take long to upgrade?
[09:05] <Mamarok> and if you download from sourceforce, you should get the .deb package, then you can install it with 'dpkg -i packagename.deb
[09:05] <Mamarok> kambal: that depends on your computer and your internet connection
[09:06] <Mamarok> please read those instructions in the link about upgrading I gave you
[09:06] <kambal> cant upgrade right now
[09:06] <kambal> if i can use an older version of wine then maybe itll work in gutsy
[09:09] <Mamarok> kambal: then just use the one in your repos
[09:09] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get install wine
[09:09] <kambal> sudo apt-get install wine doesnt work
[09:10] <Mamarok> well, that's because of EOL then
[09:10] <kambal> theres no wine in my repos
[09:10] <Mamarok> you really need to upgrade your computer first
[09:10] <Mamarok> kambal: there is, but your repos don't work anymore, because your kubuntu version is too old
[09:10] <kambal> but can i use old version wine then install it in gutsy?
[09:11] <Mamarok> kambal: seriously, upgrade to Hardy
[09:11] <kambal> oh man
[09:11] <Mamarok> and considr makinga fresh install once Karmic is released, put your /home folder in a separate partition first so you don't loose data
[09:11] <kambal> can type in the instructions how to upgrade to hardy?
[09:12] <Mamarok> kambal: everything is in that link I gave you earlier, please read that
[09:13] <kambal> thanks mamarok!
[09:24] <Xtreme> Hie there, can somebody tell me how to modify my xorg.conf file so it supports 2 displays? I've got everything, but i can't save the modified xorg.conf.
[09:24] <James147> Xtreme: what did you open it in?
[09:25] <Xtreme> in the nVidia display settings
[09:25] <James147> Xtreme: As root?
[09:26] <Xtreme> well I can't even activate the root account on Kubuntu 9.04
[09:26] <James147> Xtreme: kdesudo nvidia-settings   <- kdesudo will open gui programs as root useing your password (use sudo for command line)
[09:28] <Xtreme> James147: the command isn't recognized..
[09:28] <Bou> Xtreme: sudo nvidia-settings should work too
[09:28] <James147> Xtreme: try kdesu instead
[09:29] <Bou> James147: why is kdesu preferred over sudo for gui programs?
[09:30] <James147> Bou: Not exatly sure, but "sudo kate" gives me alot of errors with things not beeing owned by root so might do something about that
[09:31] <Bou> James147: i get errors (or warnings?) when using sudo for gui programs, but apparently without consequences
[09:31] <Bou> I will ask some sysadmin around..
[09:31] <James147> Bou: Apparently, but without knowing for sure I prefure to give the "safer" option
[09:32] <Xtreme> James147: it says the control display is undefined. What do you suggest?
[09:32] <Bou> James147: yes i know it's recommended, you are totally right, but I also know that kdesu didn't always work for me, whereas sudo is always working
[09:34] <James147> Xtreme: Where dose it say that?
[09:34] <James147> Bou: I usually try kdesudo first if it fails then try sudo
[09:35] <James147> Bou: Dont need to launch gui programs as root often so dont find many problems
[09:35] <Bou> James147: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/kdesu  --> this is still not clear to me ..
[09:38] <Bou> James147: as I understand it nothing makes kdesu more recommanded for GUI (at least in Ubuntu where we have sudo)
[09:39] <James147> Bou: Its not really discribing why it would be better to use kdesu but rather why and how its being developed
[09:40] <James147> Bou: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-165957.html
[09:45] <Bou> James147: thx, interesting
[09:46] <Xtreme_> How can one activate root account on Kubuntu?
[09:47] <James147> Xtreme: You shouldent need to
[09:48] <James147> Xtreme: The root account dosent come with a password as you are ment to use sudo opr kdesu to run apps as root
[09:48] <Xtreme_> James147:Well, I'm unable to save the nvidia display settings so I can use 2 monitors at once
[09:48] <James147> Xtreme: not even useing kdesu?
[09:49] <Xtreme_> Kdesu says The nvidia display settings is undefined!
[09:49] <James147> Xtreme: but dosent when you run it as a normal user?
[09:50] <Bou> Xtreme_: and the nvidia-settings window doesn't open then?
[09:51] <Xtreme_> James147: I can easily run the nvidia display and configure everything. The hard is when pressing the save changes button, it does'
[09:53] <James147> Xtreme_: whats the output of ls -lh /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:56] <Xtreme_> James147: It says "Access Denied" as kdesu..
[09:57] <James147> Xtreme_: running the above command? ls dosent need to be run by root for this
[09:58] <Xtreme_> James147: I first tried without root permission, it said the samething.
[09:59] <James147> Xtreme_: then whats the output of ls -lh /etc | grep X11
[10:01] <Xtreme_> James14&: Nothing came up!
[10:03] <James147> Xtreme_: hmm, that carnt be good, can you pastebin ls -lh /etc?
[10:03] <jussi01> Xtreme_: tried kdesudo nvidia-settings ?
[10:03] <James147> jussi01: there is a deeper problem, ls is gettings access denied to /etc/X11
[10:04] <Xtreme_> Jussi01: tried.
[10:07] <bigbrovar> hi guys
[10:08] <Xtreme_> James147: is there a where to edit the xorg.conf?
[10:08] <Bou> Xtreme_: you can try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[10:09] <James147> Xtreme_: Yes, kdesudo nvidia-settings should work, but since ls cant even access the dirsctory I dont think anything can
[10:09] <Bou> and then kdesudo nvidia-settings
[10:09] <Bou> ls /etc/X11/
[10:09] <Bou> oops
[10:10] <James147> Xtreme_: You need to fix the premision problems first, can you see X11 in the output of ls /etc  ?
[10:11] <Xtreme_> Bou: How do I get to it?
[10:14] <Xtreme_> James147: I've seen it?
[10:15] <James147> Xtreme_: X11 is in the output of ls /etc?
[10:16] <Xtreme_> James147: yes, i can see it on both console and gui.
[10:17] <James147> Xtreme_: and whats the out put of ls -lh /etc | grep X11?
[10:18] <Xtreme_> James147: Nothing is coming up...
[10:18] <James147> then paste the X11 line of ls -lh /etc
[10:19] <Xtreme_> James147: Where do I paste it?
[10:20] <James147> for one line here for more pastebin
[10:20] <robin0800> Xtreme_: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:24] <Xtreme_> James147: I just pasted it on paste.ubuntu.com
[10:24] <James147> Xtreme_: paste the link here
[10:25] <Xtreme_> James147:http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/282846/
[10:27] <James147> Xtreme_: That seems fine :S so whats ls /etc/X11 give?
[10:27] <James147> Xtreme_: ls -lh /etc/X11 ^^
[10:29] <Xtreme_> James147: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/282851/
[10:30] <James147> Xtreme_: ls -lh /etc/X11
[10:30] <James147> Xtreme_: not just /etc
[10:31] <Bou> Xtreme_: just try   sudo nvidia-xconfig in command line
[10:32] <Bou> and then, try again  kdesudo nvidia-settings
[10:34] <Xtreme_> Bou: check it out here http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/282856/
[10:34] <Bou> Xtreme_: this is fine
[10:34] <Bou> now run again kdesudo nvidia-settings
[10:36] <Xtreme_> Bou: There's nothin different, dude!
[10:37] <Bou> Xtreme_: what output for kdesudo nvidia-settings?
[10:37] <Xtreme_> Bou: same output!
[10:40] <Bou> nvidia display undefined?
[10:42] <Xtreme_> Bou: How can I modify the xorg,congf manually?
[10:43] <James147> Xtreme_: Just open it in a text editor - kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:46] <Xtreme_> James147: It said the document cannot be saved, check that you have right permission...
[10:49] <James147> Xtreme_: What does  "ls -lh /etc/X11/xorg.conf"  say?
[10:52] <Xtreme_> James147: It says cannot access such file.
[10:53] <James147> Xtreme_: try it with sudo
[10:54] <Xtreme_> James147: I tried but still the samething.
[10:55] <James147> Xtreme_: and the same with ls -lh /etc/X11  ?
[10:56] <Xtreme_> James147:yes, samething.
[10:58] <administrator_> hoho
[10:59] <James147> Xtreme_: Im not sure wahts wrong, the premission look fine. What file system is it on? ext3?
[10:59] <gigasoft> i have problem killing  an app, any help?
[11:00] <Xtreme_> James147:yes.
[11:01] <James147> Xtreme_: try booting a live cd and see if you can access it from there, possibally try running fsck (from the live cd)
[11:02] <Xtreme_> James147: I'm ginna give it a try and I'll be right back...
[11:03] <Bou> gigasoft: which problem?
[12:18] <sun_> hi,is anybody here?
[12:44] <bigbrovar> hi (i could feel my voice echo thru the silence of the kubuntu irc )
[13:47] <nico___> hello, who knows howto record a VOIP conversation using Twinkle?
[14:02] <DTsan> how do i go about installing a web cam?
[14:03] <pykler> when is the beta images for Karmic going to be online?
[14:04] <robin0800> pykler: when they are ready
[14:04] <Pici> pykler: Karmic discussion is in #ubuntu+1, but the image will be released when its done.
[14:04] <pykler> cool
[14:04] <DTsan> lol
[14:05] <Pici> !webcam
[14:05] <DTsan> thank you pici
[14:39] <slipi> hi
[14:41] <slipi> i am quite new to kubuntu
[14:41] <slipi> is there still anybody in chat?
[14:45] <slipi> hi
[14:45] <slipi> hi
[14:45] <kaddi> hi :)
[15:07] <ivan_> hello，大家好，我在装fedora后重启遇到问题，大家有遇到类似的吗？
[15:08] <jussi01> !cn | ivan_
[15:08] <ivan_> 我在XP装了雨林木风Fedora11
[15:09] <ivan_> 重启后无法引导系统，请问如何解
[15:09] <jussi01> ivan_: this is the kubuntu channel. please speak english so we can all understand
[15:10] <ivan_> OK,thanks
[15:18] <meitnerium> hi is there a way to install itunes 9 on kubuntu?
[15:19] <Gamarok__> hey guys
[15:19] <kaddi> hi :)
[15:19] <meitnerium> hi
[15:21] <ErreurDeSegment> meitnerium: no. But not really useful I think on a ubuntu :o) . If really you need it to test something, It can works with wine/ playonlinux... but not the best thing. Try amarok2, songbird... perhaps for example
[15:22] <Gamarok__> yeah song bird with the ipod sync and cover flow addons is exactly like itunes
[15:24] <meitnerium> thx
[16:01] <simone> oma27
[16:06] <meitnerium> simone: ???
[16:07] <genii> meitnerium: They're gone again
[16:08] <meitnerium> oh ok sry i haven't seen this
[16:09] <genii> meitnerium: Sometimes a person has a broken internet connection and keep connecting/disconnecting
[16:10] <meitnerium> ok i didn't read that she closed the connection
[16:32] <Pavel_> can anyone help me tune into an online radio broadcast?
[16:32] <homoboy> hey how do I install gnokii?
[16:34] <homoboy> anyone? how do I install gnokii? I do not know how do install something from individual directeries and that is what they are giving me.
[16:35] <Pavel_> when i click 'listen' on the page, firefox asks me to download or open 'listen.pls' (pulse audio file?)....
[16:35] <genii> homoboy: Enable universe repository, then it should be available from Add/Remove to install
[16:35] <genii> !info gnokii
[16:35] <Pavel_> homoboy, I'm not familiar with that specific program but have you tried the sudo apt-gert command?
[16:36] <homoboy> pavel, no I have not. I'l try it hold on thanks!!
[16:36] <kaddi> apt-get even ;)
[16:37] <homoboy> i know. apt-get install blah blah
[16:37] <homoboy> and it's working!! thanks soooo much!!!
[16:39] <Pavel_> so - internet radio. anyone?
[16:40] <genii> Pavel_: I found some site explaining how to make Exaille work with them, but nothing else very useful for Amarok or so
[16:41] <Pavel_> genii: but I *should* be trying to download the file (instead of open w/ __ ) and open it with some audio player?
[16:42] <genii> Pavel_: As I understand, .pls is a playlist and not the actual content
[16:56] <genii> Pavel_: Have you tried putting straight into Amarok the url containing the .pls  ?
[16:57] <Pavel_> genii, experimenting with that right now...
[16:58] <Pavel_> got it great
[16:58] <genii> Good :)
[17:21] <fale> hi
[17:21] <genii> !hi
[17:36]  * genii sips
[17:52] <dfrey> Is Karmic expected to be released towards the end of October?
[17:52] <kaddi> yes, current schedule is 29th ocotber
[17:52] <dfrey> Thanks
[18:03] <pinguinodemo> ciao
[18:20] <peterr> hi. I am trying to pair a bluetooth headset with Kubuntu 9.04 however the
[18:20] <peterr> "Audio Device" section of the wizard is disabled. Who can help?
[18:23] <dfrey> I somehow managed to remove the menu bar from konqueror.  How do I get it back?
[18:25] <peterr> how to pair a bluetooth headset with Kubuntu 9.04?
[18:27] <sczgilae> hello
[18:29] <phh> peterr: google bluez-manager
[18:30] <sczgilae> excuse me but i have the same problem i told yesterday. i have an script that mounts a shared network directory but cannot mount because konsola sais that must be root to mount. But i dont understand because if i mount using dolphin i have not problems, http://pastebin.com/d32befe57   , any ideas?
[18:34] <peterr> phh: I have blueZ installed.  what now?
[18:43] <rosco_y> does anyone have a recommendation for an HTML Editor?
[18:43] <phh> peterr: i meant blueman-manager
[18:47] <peterr> phh: ok. Thanks. I ahve just found some info on teh Net about it. They say it works.
[18:48] <peterr> rosco_y: Quanta or Bluefish
[18:51] <peterr> dfrey: have you tried right clicking on any bar? You should get options to choose.
[18:52] <satyajit> I am new to IRC.
[18:52] <satyajit> Can anyone tell what is it?
[18:52] <dfrey> peterr: Someone in #kde told me that I need to press ctrl + m.  Right clicking only brings up a menu for selecting the toolbars
[18:57] <peterr> satyajit: Google irc in your web browser
[18:57] <peterr> dfrey: have you tried it?
[19:17] <Guest63167> hellow
[19:19] <pedahzur> I'm trying to use a module in system settings, and am getting this error: ImportError: /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/qt.so: undefined symbol: PyExc_NameError  (This is KDE3 on Jaunty). But when I import the qt module from an interactive Python session, there is no error.  Help?
[19:20] <genii> pedahzur: KDE3 on Jaunty is not supported here. Please contact the Pearson Computing guy who provides that distribution
[19:21] <pedahzur> genii: OK.  Will do.  Since it concerned Python2.6 and python-qt3 (which *are* official Ubuntu packages), I thought I'd ask here first. :)  No problem.
[19:22] <genii> pedahzur: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/       probably best to try for any response
[19:22] <pedahzur> Yup. Thanks.
[19:39] <mukesh> how do I upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10
[19:46] <DarkriftX> this channel is rarely active anymore
[19:46]  * genii makes a pot of coffee
[19:51] <rmrfslash> How can I restart any audio services on kubuntu. Everytime that I launch Amarok I get a notice saying that my audio playback device is not working, falling back to _____ (which also doesn't work). After a reboot, everything is fine for a while, however, eventually falls back into this problem.
[19:52] <Matisse> hi
[19:52] <kaddi_> hi
[19:52] <rmrfslash> So if there was a way that I could restart something or reload a driver, that would at least get me back in action without a reboot.
[19:53] <Matisse> can somebody help me getting my installations consistent? I've made a update some days ago which crashed and now I cant install/update anything
[19:53] <kaddi_> Matisse: what's the error message?
[19:54] <kaddi_> rmrfslash: sry, but I'm really not familiar with sound. Worst problem I've had so far could be solved with unmuting :p
[19:54] <rmrfslash> yeah, def not muted
[19:54] <Matisse> "The following packages dont have correct fullfiled dependencies" (translated, Die folgenden Pakete haben nicht erfüllte Abhängigkeiten)
[19:55] <Matisse> always when I use apt
[19:55] <kaddi_> Have you tried installing the missing packages?
[19:56] <Matisse> wont work
[19:56] <Matisse> wait a sec
[19:56] <kaddi_> maybe try purging the package that has unmet dependencies and reinstall it?
[19:57] <DarkriftX> kaddi_: do you know how I can get debug errors from ktorrent? I tried running it from command line but it doesnt echo any errors there
[19:57] <DarkriftX> I keep getting "Download Failed" when trying to update an RSS feed. I need to see what is wrong becaues the feed is fine and so is my internet
[19:58] <kaddi_> never used a torrent in my life :p maybe ktorrent has a parameter for silent/loud feedback?
[19:58] <DarkriftX> i didnt see it.when ran from command line, it actually goes to what I believe is called background mode
[19:58] <kaddi_> have you tried to view the torrent with another application, agregator or something, to see if that works?
[19:58] <DarkriftX> kaddi_: yes, the rss feed works fine everywhere else
[19:58] <DarkriftX> and *sometimes* works in ktorrent
[19:58] <DarkriftX> without being changed at all
[19:59] <DarkriftX> sometimes = like 2% of the time
[19:59] <kaddi_> maybe ktorrent isn't meant for rss-feeds? *just teasing*
[19:59] <DarkriftX> lol
[19:59] <Matisse> kaddi_, "sudo apt-get --reinstall install kdebase-runtime" <-- this one ? Didn't work, even with downloading the package by my own
[20:00] <Matisse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/283230/
[20:01] <kaddi_> Matisse: are you trying to downgrade selected packages?
[20:01] <rmrfslash> ok... online someone suggested reinstalling phonon-backend-xine
[20:02] <rmrfslash> how can I reinstall a package
[20:02] <kaddi_> sudo apt-get --reinstall install should do it, if you know the package name
[20:04] <kaddi_> Matisse: This reads as if there is a version conflict: You try to install one package with a different version and run into incompatibilities with kdesudo/kdesu, what is it you are trying to do?
[20:04] <Matisse> kaddi_, an update wanted to upgrade the package kdebase-runtime, which didn't work, maybe because the file is broken
[20:05] <kaddi_> and you're sure that is the version it wanted to upgrade to?
[20:05] <Matisse> kaddi_, I did not do something special
[20:06] <kaddi_> maybe try a sudo apt-get clean to remove all downloaded packages and redownload package
[20:06] <Matisse> kaddi_, I just wanted to upgrade my system with the update-manager (or whatever the name is)
[20:06] <kaddi_> Matisse what does apt-cache policy kdebase-runtime say?
[20:07] <Matisse> kaddi_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/283234/
[20:08] <Matisse> if I should translate something to english, just ask
[20:08] <kaddi_> na, I'm german too ;)
[20:08] <cher> The vim delivered with kubuntu is shamelessly crippled (no diff, no cindent, no cscope, no scrollbind etc.). I'm new to Ubuntu (but not Linux). Is there a way to get a "proper" vim with apt-get or so, or Do I have to install vim myself from the source?
[20:09] <Matisse> kaddi_, cool :) then could have a look also at   http://paste.ubuntu.com/283227/    http://paste.ubuntu.com/283230/
[20:10] <kaddi_> Matisse you have kde 4.2, but somehow a package for kde 4.3 got into the cache of apt:/var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime_4%3... I guess your best option is to empty the cache with sudo apt-get clean and try to do a update & upgrade afterwards to see if you still have the problem
[20:11] <Matisse> kaddi_, still the same problem as in  http://paste.ubuntu.com/283227/
[20:12] <Matisse> kaddi_, I'll try 'sudo apt-get -f install' as supposed again, maybe this time it works...
[20:13] <Matisse> will take some time... :)
[20:13] <kaddi_> can you paste me the output from sudo apt-get upgrade as well?
[20:14] <Matisse> kaddi_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/283240/
[20:14] <cristi_an> can wlan be set manually ?
[20:14] <cristi_an> i just do not see any wlan detected :( depsite from windows i see them
[20:15] <kaddi_> cristi_an: yes it can, but it can be a PITA.
[20:16] <Matisse> kaddi_, I has done something with -f ...
[20:16] <Matisse> *It
[20:17] <kaddi_> Matisse for better or worse?
[20:17] <kaddi_> :p
[20:17] <kaddi_> you're using 64bit?
[20:18] <Matisse> At the moment it seems better... :) yes, 64bit
[20:18] <kaddi_> cool. :) No more complaints? Or only fewer complaints?
[20:18] <apparle> what's going one?
[20:19] <Matisse> I'm upgrading at the moment... no complaints at the moment
[20:20] <Matisse> I have to write that down... apt-get clean   and   apt-get -f install   seemed to solve this problem
[20:21] <Matisse> apparle, had an inconsistent system due to a bad update... somehow I couldnt install a important package with many dependencies
[20:21] <kaddi_> -f stands for force. This will force the install, or try to, even if there are unmet dependencies and similar. clean removes the already downloaded packages. This is useful in case a pacakge got corrupted during the download and fails to install for that reasen
[20:21] <kaddi_> reason even
[20:22] <apparle> Matisse: ok.......everything all right now>
[20:22] <Matisse> might be, I hope so :)
[20:23] <genii> kaddi_: In apt-get the -f is "fix broken dependencies" and not "force"
[20:23] <kaddi_> oh
[20:23] <kaddi_> I always thought it was force
[20:24] <genii> kaddi_: In some other apps but not in apt-get
[20:24] <kaddi_> hehe :)
[20:24] <genii> dpkg-reconfigure  or so, for instance, yes
[20:25] <Matisse> yes, upgrading worked fine!
[20:25] <Leobuntu`> hi all
[20:25] <kaddi_> :)
[20:25] <Matisse> Vielen Dank, kaddi_ !
[20:25] <kaddi_> hehe, I didn't do that, you did that on your own :)
[20:25] <Leobuntu`> i've a little problem, can somebody help me ? x)
[20:26] <kaddi_> !ask
[20:26] <Matisse> now I even have the time to buy some food before the shop is closed ;)
[20:26]  * Matisse is afk
[20:26] <kaddi_> you'll have to be quick :P
[20:27] <Matisse> right
[20:27] <Matisse> :)
[20:27] <Leobuntu`> okay, so, when I try to open a directory in konqueror, I receive two times "malformated url", and then, it opens it, does someone know where does it comes from ?
[20:29] <lizzzy> Hi! So, I had installed ubuntu 9.04 and switched to kubuntu-desktop. Want to uninstall all the ubuntu-related files completely from the system. How do I know which is ubuntu-related and which is kubuntu-related?
[20:30] <kaddi_> !purekde
[20:39] <lizzzy> Oh. So, I uninstalled whatever was mentioned above and now the audio doesn't play :(
[20:40] <Riddell> 9.10 Beta out kubuntu.org/news/9.10-beta
[20:47] <klosxx> hola
[20:48] <genii> !es
[20:48] <jimmy51_> guten tag
[20:48] <Fanfare> !de | jimmy51_
[20:49] <jimmy51_> :)
[20:49] <klosxx> hi
[20:49] <jimmy51_> !en
[20:49] <Fanfare> but you can also ask here in en
[20:49] <kaddi_> lol
[20:49] <jimmy51_> sorry... just having fun
[20:50] <Fanfare> !wargames
[20:50] <kaddi_> worth a shot ;)
[20:51] <Fanfare> so, anyone using (k)ubuntu at work?
[20:51] <jimmy51_> i will be on my next PC upgrade, which should be soon
[20:51] <jimmy51_> i run it at home full time, with windows VM's when necessary
[20:52] <jimmy51_> i'm going to do that here at the office since it works so well
[20:52] <Fanfare> jimmy51_: which branch, what tasks ?
[20:53] <Fanfare> jimmy51_: any company specific sw needs?
[20:53] <jimmy51_> kubuntu 9.04 for now, 9.10 if it goes well at home.
[20:54] <apparle> I have great hopes from 9.10...... heard it has better graphics acceleration and obviously KDE4.3
[20:54] <Fanfare> jimmy51_: sry, i meant company buissines?
[20:54] <apparle> and better firefox integration
[20:54] <jimmy51_> the only non linux capable apps i have to have are:  Visual Studio, Outlook, VOIP Client App, Macromedia Fireworks, Windows Embedded Studio, and PE Builder
[20:54] <jimmy51_> all of which i can run in a VM
[20:55] <jimmy51_> i'm a hardware/software integrator
[20:55] <apparle> Fanfare: In india LIC (which is a big company) has adopted linux though not sure which distro
[20:55] <Fanfare> jimmy51_: ok, so you are in SW business...
[20:55] <jimmy51_> Fanfare: software and hardware
[20:55] <jimmy51_> i mean, our main product is software, but obviously that needs hardware
[20:56] <apparle> jimmy51_: what do you mean integrator...........do u write drivers and design cards or do stuff regarding microcontrollers etc.
[20:56] <Fanfare> do you promote linux to customers?
[20:56] <jimmy51_> i haven't written any drivers, but i've compiled 3rd party source
[20:57] <jimmy51_> i take our application, compile (build an installer if needed), choose or build an OS, marry the two, choose hardware or have it built, and marry the whole package
[20:58] <jimmy51_> Fanfare: i don't interface with customers directly
[20:58] <jimmy51_> i do advocate for linux when possible though :)
[20:58] <jimmy51_> (to family, friends, and coworkers)
[20:58]  * genii sips and contemplates customer interfacing
[20:59]  * jimmy51_ has attempted to avoid customers for the last 3 years
[21:00] <jimmy51_> Fanfare: why do you ask?
[21:02] <Fanfare> just curiosity... as long as there is no support request :-)
[21:03] <Fanfare> i find my mom, to be the touthest nut to convince of linux
[21:03] <jimmy51_> haha
[21:03] <jimmy51_> it took me a little bit to convince my wife, but now she's 100% linux and loves it.
[21:04] <jimmy51_> start with replacing IE with Firefox, AIM (or whatever) with Pidgin, Outlook with Thunderbird
[21:04] <jimmy51_> once she's sold on the apps, wait until her PC dies due to hardware failure or malware infection
[21:04] <Fanfare> jimmy51_: my girlfriend used linux  from our first day... she never had too much contact to M$
[21:04] <jimmy51_> build it back up on Kubuntu, with her apps
[21:05] <jimmy51_> good
[21:05] <Fanfare> :-) yeah, mom already uses 90% floss
[21:05] <jimmy51_> there you go, prime time for switching
[21:06] <Fanfare> waiting for her pc to die now :-)
[21:06] <jimmy51_> hehe
[21:06] <jimmy51_> i'm still working on her sister
[21:06] <genii> As stimulating as the conversation is, I'll just mention that it's drifting offtopic from support which is the purpose here. If some questions begin coming in please shift to #kubuntu-offtopic
[21:06] <jimmy51_> doh
[21:06] <Fanfare> genii: you are right.
[21:07] <jimmy51_> sorry...  has anyone here successfully got 3d accell to work on vbox 3 on kubuntu 9.04?
[21:07] <Fanfare> we have that in mind.
[21:07] <Fanfare> jimmy51_: checking
[21:08] <Fanfare> jimmy51_: which guest?
[21:08] <jimmy51_> Xp Profressional
[21:08] <jimmy51_> i've got OpenGL -> OpenGL working, but not DirectX -> OpenGL
[21:08] <jimmy51_> and the OpenGL was dog slow
[21:13] <maple1> !stop
[21:14] <genii> maple1: Don't do that please
[21:15] <jimmy51_> yikes
[21:16] <apparle> Does anyone have had any experience with avr-gcc
[21:17] <apparle> !karmic
[21:17] <genii> apparle: Not specifically, but some other cross-compiling
[21:17] <genii> What more exactly is your question?
[21:18] <apparle> genii: Actually I am looking for an IDE to use with avr-gcc which will have more microcontroller specific features
[21:18] <apparle> Right now I am doing we with the makefile
[21:19] <apparle> But opening the file everytime for anychange is little tedious
[21:19] <apparle> also typing make and make program in console everytime is also too much
[21:19] <genii> apparle: You're using KDevelop or something similar?
[21:20] <apparle> I have used Netbeans earlier and TurboC on windows
[21:20] <apparle> And WinAVR on windows
[21:21] <apparle> Also plz suggest a good video editing software..
[21:22] <genii> apparle: For general code developing I'd recommend KDevelop (not sure about avr specific setup on it though)
[21:23] <apparle> genii: Actually I also have to train others using windows so id kdevelop available for windows?
[21:23] <apparle> *is
[21:23] <genii> For editing, Kino sucks but is serviceable, may want to check KDENlive
[21:24] <genii> apparle: You can use something like XMing to run KDE apps under Windows
[21:25] <apparle> genii: That willl be too much....... the windows users are total duffers..... too much for them...... and anyways Kdevelop wouldn't suit my purpose
[21:26] <genii> apparle: For windows-specific suggestions perhaps try ##windows channel
[21:26] <Emery1> anyone around ?
[21:27] <genii> !anyone | Emery1
[21:27] <Emery1> how do i change the keymap settings in CLI ?
[21:27] <apparle> genii: Actually I want something which is equally powerful under linux and windows... any ways let it be................ can anything be done so that I can associate keyboard shortcus for make and configure etc..... in Kate
[21:27] <Emery1> i chose the worng one
[21:28] <[Relic]> anyone using 8.04, I want to use python 3.1.1, but not sure if the make install will conflict with installed 2.5.x version
[21:28] <apparle> Also I have never done video editing which app should I start with
[21:29] <Emery1> genii any idea on changing the keymap in CLI ?
[21:30] <mirza> Question: When in sudo mode, all GTK apps in KDE use ugly Raleigh theme (engine).. How to disable that or to change theme ?
[21:31] <genii> Emery1: usually xmodmap
[21:31] <genii> Apologies on lag, work requires me often right now
[21:31] <apparle> mirza: I think starting the GTK configuration tool with sudo may help
[21:33] <Emery1>  /exit
[21:36] <slipi> hi
[21:36] <apparle> !hi | slipi
[21:36] <slipi> who can tell me how i can get back my task bar
[21:37] <slipi> i stopped it and now i cannot get it back
[21:38] <apparle> slipi: did you remove all the panel or only the task manager in it
[21:38] <slipi> i removed the bar down at the bottom
[21:38] <slipi> with the big "K"
[21:38] <slipi> now i can get all through the widgets
[21:39] <slipi> but if i have many windows open
[21:39] <slipi> then i must minimize all
[21:39] <slipi> cause the widget dont come overlay
[21:39] <slipi> the other windows
[21:39] <slipi> so huuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[21:39] <slipi> now i want back my task and menubar
[21:40] <slipi> i only closed it i think
[21:40] <slipi> but i am new in kubuntu since yesterday
[21:40] <apparle> slipi: ok.......... but don't flood the channel with lots of small statements
[21:40] <lizzzy> How do I remove the installed themes through command line?
[21:40] <slipi> ok
[21:40] <stollentroll> isnt there a way to use the symbol at the top right to get it back
[21:41] <slipi> i think not, there i can get the widget
[21:41] <Fanfare> slipi: there is no way to "close" a bar, only remove or autohide...
[21:41] <apparle> slipi: did you try adding panel
[21:41] <apparle> Fanfare: its but obvious he removed it
[21:42] <slipi> where can i find that
[21:42] <Fanfare> slipi: u need to rebuild the bar, as i think u removed it.
[21:42] <slipi> adding panel?
[21:42] <kaddi_> yes
[21:42] <slipi> maybe
[21:42] <kaddi_> once you have the panel, you can track it to the side you want to have it and start filling it with the widgets you like, by clicking on the cashew
[21:43] <Fanfare> slipi: rightclick desktop, (unlock if locked) add panel
[21:43] <apparle> slipi: you will have to add panl and then add widgets like system tray, application lauchcher, task manager.........
[21:43] <slipi> ok , but how do i get it , looked already all
[21:43] <slipi> system settings
[21:43] <apparle> no need for system settings
[21:43] <Guest64559> hey everyone. i just installed gentoo but my internet connection fails to start at boot. i get the eth0 : timed out error. i installed gentoo through kubuntu 8.04 live cd(where i am now too). any suggestions?
[21:44] <Fanfare> slipi: rightclick on desktop, if its locked it says unlock, if its not locked it says ... add widget / add panel
[21:45] <slipi> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[21:45] <slipi> thanks
[21:45] <slipi> ohhhhhhhhhh so easy
[21:45] <slipi> i am stupid
[21:45] <slipi> yeees now i have the panel but no big "K"
[21:45] <jimmy51_> slipi: it's a menu item
[21:46] <stollentroll> :)
[21:46] <Fanfare> slipi: now rightclick on the panel add widget
[21:46] <jimmy51_> right click on the panel, click add
[21:46] <avihayb> genii: may I bother you about kdevelop? here, in of topic or in privet?
[21:46] <jimmy51_> (i blew away my taskbar when i first tried kubuntu...i know it's frustrating)
[21:47] <slipi> hi that helped
[21:47] <apparle> as I earlier said don't flood the channel with small statements........click on the small icon on the right side and you will see another bar popup.......select add widgets and then add the application launcher
[21:47] <slipi> i got it back
[21:47] <slipi> the advantage for me is that i can also
[21:48] <slipi> reach it if i have open many windows
[21:48] <slipi> so i will keep it now
[21:48] <slipi> thanks
[21:48] <kaddi_> you can add every widget you want into the panel :)
[21:48] <apparle> slipi: now you know surely how to play with these things....... will not run in any trouble regarding this now :)
[21:48] <kaddi_> there is also a widget to minimize all windows, which I find highely useful :)
[21:48] <slipi> oh
[21:48] <slipi> yes
[21:49] <slipi> thats for which i search
[21:49] <apparle> Guys suggest a good video editing software......... I have not done any editing earlier
[21:49] <slipi> so i can reach the desktop
[21:49] <slipi> like in windows with the windows key and D
[21:49] <jimmy51_> question:  what's the point of multiple desktops if they all share a taskbar?  i want multiple desktops so i don't have a cluttered taskbar.
[21:49] <Fanfare> slipi: "show the desktop" its called or something similar
[21:50] <kaddi_> I don't have the english names of the widgets, just look through the widgets and you'll find it :)
[21:50] <fabio_> #ispman
[21:50] <apparle> slipi: Actually you have a better feature called show dashboard............which will bring desktop in the front and just darken the windows..............if you have the graphics enabled
[21:50] <kaddi_> jimmy51_: I guess this is a feature for the next release. At least now you can have different widgets for different desktops :) (and maybe even the systray will work outside a panel :p )
[21:51] <apparle> Guys suggest a good video editing software......... I have not done any editing earlier
[21:51] <jimmy51_> kaddi_: that would be good
[21:51] <Fanfare> jimmy51_: not sure i got that, but u can separate like desktop 1: Work related, Desktop2: internet,mail,news Desktop3: media,musik,video,...
[21:52] <kaddi_> jimmy51_: yeah I tried to not use any panels at all, so that I can configure my desktops freely, but it's kinda pointless when your systray only shows minimzed programs on one desktop. :/
[21:52] <jimmy51_> Fanfare: yeah, but the taskbar shows tasks from all
[21:52] <jimmy51_> so it gets super cluttered and full
[21:52] <mirza> apparle: thanx for advice it worked after starting gtk-theme-switch2 with kdesudo (i was trying only sudo beafore :) )
[21:52] <apparle> mirza: :)
[21:53] <Fanfare> jimmy51_: u can configure to only show current desktop tasks
[21:53] <apparle> mirza: kdesudo is only a graphical version of sudo
[21:53] <jimmy51_> Fanfare: hmmm.... i'll have to look for that.  i've never seen such a feature in 8.10 or 9.04
[21:53] <iEatChildren> whats up with the history command? its not showing the last command i ran from one of the multiple term windows i had open
[21:54] <mirza> apparle: it did not work with sudo only, i felt strange about using kdesudo to start gkt app :D:D
[21:54] <kaddi_> jimmy51_: not sure if it is available for the default task list, but smooth tasks and fancy tasks have been offering it for a long time. :)
[21:54] <slipi> thanks fanfare and apparle
[21:54] <apparle> :)
[21:54] <slipi> now i too can get my network
[21:54] <slipi> monitoring
[21:55] <slipi> so that i can resolve my next problem
[21:55] <slipi> i have connection to eth0
[21:55] <slipi> but no wlan0
[21:55] <slipi> but anyway i try now the third time in
[21:55] <slipi> 3 years linux
[21:55] <slipi> and the first time get internet
[21:55] <slipi> big step
[21:56] <jimmy51_> slipi, please consolidate your messages
[21:56] <jimmy51_> this
[21:56] <jimmy51_> should
[21:56] <jimmy51_> be
[21:56] <jimmy51_> one
[21:56] <FloodBotK1> jimmy51_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:56] <genii> avihayb: I am just preparing to leave work now and will not be around (will just appear /away as I do right now)
[21:56] <slipi> ah ok i see sorry
[21:57] <jimmy51_> instead of hitting enter midway through or even at the end of each sentence, hit enter only when you are ready to send a complete thought
[21:57] <apparle> slipi: remove the existing network manager and install wicd........... I myself have never had wifi but everyone says 'wicd' is much better
[21:57]  * kaddi_ agrees
[21:57] <Fanfare> jimmy51_: found it? its a plasma setting of windowlist!
[21:58] <kaddi_> only that kubuntu insists on removing wicd and installing networkmanager with every new release
[21:58] <jimmy51_> i'm on xp at work now... i'll check it when i get home.
[21:58] <Fanfare> jimmy51_: ok, hurry :-)
[22:00] <jimmy51_> Fanfare: hehe.  i should have left already.
[22:02]  * jimmy51_ prepares to fight traffic on the way home to tweak his taskbar settings on 9.04
[22:03] <Fanfare> iEatChildren: there is something to check in history menu. maybe that helps, but not shure
[22:03] <iEatChildren> where is the history menu?
[22:04] <davidjheinrich> does anyone know how to do a polynomial regression with Gnumeric in the spread-sheet? I want to have variables that I can reference, and not have to transcribe from a graph
[22:05] <apparle> davidjheinrich: I think you better ask in #openoffice.org
[22:09] <Fanfare> iEatChildren: we are talking bout konsole?
[22:09] <cichlasoma> Hi. I cannot understand Konqueror'behavior when splitting views. It allows me to split a view without changing its size only when it is on the bottom right side of the Konqueror window, otherwise it splits it and displays it in the whole window. How can I disable the latter behavior, please?
[22:09] <iEatChildren> Fanfare: yes
[22:10] <Fanfare> iEatChildren: there is a menu file | edit | view ...?
[22:10] <iEatChildren> yes
[22:11] <Fanfare> iEatChildren: and history | bookmarks | ...
[22:11] <iEatChildren> i dont have history
[22:11] <iEatChildren> i have file, edit, view, scrollback, bookmarks
[22:11] <iEatChildren> is scrollback what you are talking about?
[22:11] <Fanfare> iEatChildren: then its called scrollback... having non english here
[22:12] <iEatChildren> okay...i have that setup for unlimited now...it was at 1000. regardless...i typed a command then had to reboot...when i did "history" it wasnt listed
[22:12] <MTGap> I can't get koffice-kde4 installed because of kpresenter being packaged incorrectly and I can't resolve the stupid issue, so I can't do any other upgrades or installs. How do I get kpresenter upgraded?
[22:13] <Fanfare> iEatChildren: just found that this is not solving your prob anyways, sry
[22:13] <iEatChildren> you tried...its all good
[22:13] <Fanfare> iEatChildren: your history is never updated? or just in that case?
[22:13] <iEatChildren> its not updated
[22:14] <lizzzy> There seems to be some problem when I try to install new splashscreen themes. It doesn't get installed.
[22:14] <iEatChildren> only has 26 lines in it...and thats since i installed the OS
[22:14] <iEatChildren> i should have many many more commands in my history
[22:14] <MTGap> Another issue, I changed my grub (1.96) timeout setting from 10 to 0 and now I don't even see the menu (No I don't have the option to hit ESC)
[22:15] <Fanfare> iEatChildren: ok, i just found that only first konsole seems to save history
[22:15] <iEatChildren> hmm...thats pretty lame
[22:15] <apparle> Impressed by the kayaking photo on beta release news
[22:15] <iEatChildren> Fanfare: any reason for that?
[22:16] <Fanfare> iEatChildren: dont know just found out never really used history that much...
[22:16] <Fanfare> iEatChildren: search and report at bugs.kde.org
[22:17] <iEatChildren> ok
[22:17] <iEatChildren> thanks
[22:19] <slipi_> hi , i am back i cut my cable and it showed me that i have connection on wlan0 , i can reach my router now but have no internet so i load down "wicd" and it installed "grease monkey" is that normal ?
[22:19] <Fanfare> lizzzy: are you trying through systemsettingsß
[22:19] <lizzzy> yes Fanfare
[22:19] <Fanfare> lizzzy: did systemsettings ask for root pwd?
[22:19] <lizzzy> nope
[22:21] <Fanfare> lizzzy: maybe kdesudo systemsettings may help
[22:21] <lizzzy> will try that now Fanfare :)
[22:25] <lizzzy> Fanfare: I did that and still none of the themes are getting installed "Cannot install SomeTheme" is the error. Well, I guess I'll just download the theme file and install. Thanks!
[22:26] <Fanfare> lizzzy: hm, sry was a try...
[22:26] <lizzzy> np  Fanfare :)
[22:26] <Fanfare> got to go,bb
[22:33] <MTGap> I'm using grub2 and for some reason I don't see the grub menu when I boot up even when I have the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT commented out
[22:33] <apparle> does anyone know how to configure wicd
[22:34] <apparle> My friend has installed the package.... how to start it
[22:34] <kaddi_> just type sudo wicd and the wicd-client& into command line or start it from start menu
[22:35] <kaddi_> *then
[22:35] <ItsME> hmm
[22:43] <apparle> does the support for 'legacy ATi cards' at ATI calls them improbe in 9.10
[22:43] <apparle> *improve
[22:45] <ItsME> hi @all
[22:48] <nightwlkr> hellow
[22:50] <nightwlkr> i'm having some problem with adept manager...using kubuntu 7.04 can some1 remind me where i had to modify so adept can fetch new packages on the net?
[22:52] <Mamarok> nightwlkr: you should upgrade, as 7.04 has reached it's EOL
[22:52] <Mamarok> !eol
[22:53] <nightwlkr> well had 8.0 but my cd was damaged.. isn't there a way i can run a full upgrade or something from here?
[22:53] <javier> Hi! Can someone help me configuration of multimedia keys?
[22:54] <Walzmyn> !distupgrade
[22:54] <nightwlkr> note that i no longer have any other operating system..was fed up of windows so tried installing 8.0 gave me errors,installed 7.04 since this was the last resort
[22:54] <nightwlkr> !distupgrade
[22:55] <nightwlkr> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:55] <nightwlkr> ?
[22:55] <Walzmyn> nightwlkr: here's the instructions for upgrading from older versions   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:56] <Walzmyn> nightwlkr: you have to go though some intermediate versions
[22:56] <nightwlkr> thanks alot Walzmyn
[22:56] <Walzmyn> NP
[22:56] <nightwlkr> well as long as i get there not a problem..with this connection downloading 700mb is kind of suicidal
[22:59] <Walzmyn> nightwlkr: if it was me, I'd back up /home and Download a 9.04 CD and just overwrite your root partition
[23:00] <Walzmyn> blast! Quanta requires versions of dependencies that are not in the repo
[23:01] <nightwlkr> well Walzmyn i need no backing up it's empty already..my data is moved to another drive
[23:02] <nightwlkr> the connection speed is a problem try downloading on an 8kb per second
[23:02] <Walzmyn> nightwlkr: oh, well, then i'd not bother with the upgrade business then, just load on a band new install
[23:02] <Walzmyn> nightwlkr: torrent - leave over night
[23:02] <nightwlkr> was just thinking that..thnx
[23:03] <nightwlkr> but how do i burn it on a cd? :P
[23:04] <nightwlkr> oh found it
[23:04] <nightwlkr> k3b
[23:13] <Walzmyn> Arrrrggg, anybody here help me get apache working?
[23:28] <chalcedony> I show this in my firefox preferences: chrome://ubufox/content/startpage.html  why isn't this the regular google start page? is this /chrome/ ?
[23:28] <chalcedony> it's been there since i upgraded to 9.04
[23:38] <Ev0luti0n_> !seen
[23:38] <Ev0luti0n_> !last seen
[23:38] <Ev0luti0n_> @seen
[23:38] <Ev0luti0n_> !seen james147
[23:38] <dwidmann_> chalcedony: it's a custom google page for firefox, stored locally. I think "chrome" in this instance has something to do with mozilla's XUL stuffs.
[23:39] <chalcedony> heh
[23:39] <chalcedony> ok
[23:39] <chalcedony> i changed it back to regular google mainpage
[23:39] <chalcedony> the custom page doesn't have the links for things like images
[23:40] <chalcedony> dwidmann_, thank you much :)
[23:46] <Ev0luti0n_> fellas, anyone with an epson printer?
[23:46] <Ev0luti0n_> sx200?
[23:46] <Walzmyn> why the bloody hell can i not use sub directories in my public_html folder though apache?