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mat_tmac_v: hey10:09
mat_tmac_v: the wireless icon still overlaps with the lock...10:10
mac_vmat_t: did you pull after i edited? i corrected it, it should work correctly now +*10:10
mac_v:)10:10
mat_tmac_v: is it in the distro now, or only in your branch?10:11
mac_vmat_t: not yet in distro , only in bzr10:11
mat_tok10:11
mat_tthanks10:11
mac_vmat_t: the update hasnt been done since we are in beta freeze , it will among the first updates for beta :)10:12
mat_tmac_v: hm, so now it seems like you reverted to the lighter gray10:13
mac_vhuh? no.10:13
mac_vthe distor one is still light grey10:13
mac_vdistro*10:13
mac_vhasnt been updated10:13
mat_tyes but your latest rev is lighter gray10:14
mac_vmat_t: no way , it hasnt been touched10:14
mac_vits the same shade since you last tested it10:14
mat_thm10:14
mat_twhat's the location of your branch again?10:16
mac_vlp:humanity10:16
mat_trev 362?10:17
mac_vmat_t: yup.. check if the icon you have use the color> 606060ff10:17
mat_tok, so atm battery and wireless are visibly lighter than volume, bt and messaging10:18
mac_vall use same color mat_t how can they be less , and as i said it the same shade , i havent touched those icons ;)10:18
mat_tweird then. OK, let's hope it's my local version getting mixed up.10:19
kwwiimac_v: see why I always keep things in packaged form? that way, you just point to a .deb package or better yet, have it in your ppa and it gets updated automatically10:31
mac_v:)10:31
kwwiimat_t: btw, I worked with ted and cody a bit last night on the xsplash stuff...one thing you could to improve things is to make versions of the jpgs without the color profile embedded10:33
mac_vkwwii: i think what must have happened , is ... mat_t would have installed the updates which installed Humanity in usr/share/ so they must have overwritten certain files ...or... mat_t must be using the Humanity theme from ~/.icons/ while the distro version from usr/share/ is overriding the icons10:33
kwwiimac_v: yeah, that would be my assumption as well10:33
kwwiimat_t: if I open the jpgs and then save them without the profile they will be re-compressed which only makes them lower quality10:34
mat_tkwwii: why would color profile be an issue?10:37
kwwiimat_t: it just adds to the file size10:37
mat_tah :)10:37
mat_tok, np, I'll re-export it without the profile10:37
kwwiiI doubt it gets used, but if it does, I doubt everyone has an lcd monitor10:37
kwwii:p10:37
kwwiicool, thanks10:37
kwwiimat_t: if you want, just export png files and I can do the jpg conversion10:38
mat_tkwwii: well, exactly - that's what the profile is for... to tell the device "this was done on the lcd and the colors should be like mat_t saw them"10:38
mat_tkwwii: but most apps will ignore the profile anyway10:39
kwwiimat_t: yeah, but I do not think that on linux that works...even gimp doesn't do it right10:39
mat_tsure10:39
mat_tI'll do it now10:39
kwwiimat_t: killer, thanks10:39
mat_tnp :)10:39
mat_tkwwii: what's the resolution we're using?10:40
mat_tis it still 2560 x 1600?10:40
kwwiimat_t: yes, but if possible we should include more than one pic..that would make things work faster and, perhaps, solve some of the banding problems10:40
kwwiimat_t: perhaps 3 different sizes10:41
kwwiiI freed up more than 2mb of disk space (which, hopefully, nobody has noticed yet)10:41
kwwiimat_t: unless, of course, you think I am smoking crack :D10:42
mat_tkwwii: ok, what are the resolutions we're currenly including then?10:42
kwwiimat_t: currentnly only the one pic10:42
mat_tkwwii: I know you are :)10:42
kwwiiall day, every day10:42
mat_tcan you check what res is that pic?10:42
kwwii2560x1600, I worked with them on it last night for a while10:43
mat_tOk10:43
kwwiiwe have an svg which can render almost as fast as scaling that pic10:43
mat_t?10:43
mat_tWhat do you mean by "we have an svg"?10:44
mat_tDid someone recreate the graphic?10:44
kwwiiI mean, I made an svg based on the pixmap10:44
kwwiibut it is not 100% the same, and not quicker anyway10:44
mat_tah10:44
mat_t:)10:44
kwwiiit was worth a try though10:44
mat_tok10:44
kwwiiI think that if we had 3 pics, and pick the best one for a range of sizes and scale that it might be much faster10:45
Cimikwwii, you were right: in these days, I haven't touched murrine :)10:55
mat_tkwwii: the difference between with/without the profile is 3 kB :)10:59
mat_tkwwii: but I managed to get the file size down to 87 KB11:00
kwwiiCimi: hehe, good for you! A break helps sometimes as well ;)11:00
kwwiimat_t: killer, every little bit helps11:00
mat_tkwwii: sent11:18
psyke83hey12:19
mat_tkwwii: do you know anything about a new Ubuntu One icon?13:29
kwwiimat_t: nope, I know nothing about ubuntuone, sorry13:57
mac_vmat_t: do you mean the ubuntu-one emblems and panel icons?13:59
mac_vi was sent a few of those to be added to humanity  , and they have been included14:00
mat_tmac_v: panel icon primarily14:00
mat_tmac_v: ok14:01
mat_tthx :)14:01
kwwiiagain, none of these changes will be included until after the beta14:05
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kwwiimac_v: did you put those gdm icons from mat in Humanity?15:36
mac_vkwwii: am i supposed to? i didnt know15:37
kwwiimac_v: didn't he send them to you?15:37
mac_vyup , i have them15:39
mac_vkwwii: ^15:39
kwwii;)15:39
mac_vkwwii: but which folder do i put them?15:48
FLOZzHello all  _o/15:53
kwwiimac_v: no idea, I am afraid that they are app icons15:55
kwwiithey are the icons shown at the bottom of gdm15:55
kwwiiafter you click on your user name15:55
mac_vmat_t: the gdm icons you sent? which folder do they need to be added in humanity?15:55
kwwiialso, I am not sure if he made all of the necessary icons15:56
kwwiimac_v: I doubt he'll have an answer for that other than "the right one"15:56
mac_vhehe ;p15:56
mat_tkwwii: what other ones do we need?15:57
kwwiilet me boot back into karmic, one minute16:01
kwwiilanguage, keyboard, sessions, accesability, shutdown16:02
kwwiimac_v: looking at humanity, do you know which icons are being used?16:04
kwwiimac_v: I think that those icons are all gnome icons, so it shouldn't be too hard to add the right names16:06
mat_tkwwii: keyb, lang and sessions should never have been using icons in the first place :)16:07
mac_vmat_t: but they are being used... the desktop team doesnt want to remove those either... so its better we not use those icons16:08
mac_vkwwii: ^16:08
mac_vnot use your icons*16:08
kwwiimat_t: all of those changes require code changes, which dbarth said he had no time for16:08
mat_tright16:08
mat_tok, so we'll have a nice theme with ugly icons then ;)16:09
kwwiimac_v: we honestly want to use these icons16:09
kwwiimac_v: the desktop has nothing to say about this16:09
kwwiidesktop team16:09
kwwiiwe decide on the design, that is why we are called the design team :p16:09
mac_vmat_t: kwwii: seb does not want to remove those entires , so either all the icons need so to be done in mat_t's style ... or they will look awkward... also... if we use the standard labels , then thos icons will be used during user session16:10
mac_vin the apps16:10
kwwiimac_v: right, I agree with that statement16:11
kwwiimac_v: but they are not used anywhere else that I know of (at least I cannot find the icons in the humanity theme)16:11
mac_vso there need to be changes in the code  ,either new labels for those icons ... or ...16:11
mac_vkwwii: they are used , if you show me the screenshot i'll point out16:12
mac_vall the icons used there have humanity icons...16:13
kwwiilanguage, keyboard, sessions, accesability, shutdown16:13
mac_vkwwii: all those are icons used in the menu either system > preferences or system > administration16:14
kwwiimac_v: yeah, you are right16:16
mac_vkwwii: its better to not use mat_t's icons or get new labels for them and edit the gdm accordingly ... for which mat_t has to make the complete set of icons16:16
kwwiimac_v: or set another theme as default for gdm with just those icons in it16:16
kwwii;)16:16
kwwiinasty, but it would work16:16
mac_vyeah , nice16:16
mac_vkwwii: either way more work for mat_t ;p16:16
mat_tmac_v: kwwii: if it's implementable, I'm more than happy to knock out few more icons :)16:17
mac_vmat_t: that is how we are doing for the gdm theme...16:18
mac_vdifferent theme16:18
kwwiimat_t: language, keyboard, sessions, accesability, shutdown16:20
kwwiimake those and we can make a new theme with just those icons in it16:21
mat_tkwwii: sounds good16:22
mat_tkwwii: if I get them to you by lunchtime tomorrow, will that do?16:23
kwwiiyepp16:24
mat_tok :)16:24
mat_tkwwii: what about removing the computer icon/name?16:27
mat_tkwwii: ah, we'll also need a large version of accessibility icon - one displayed in the window16:28
mat_tkwwii: I'll also change the icon to the human silhouette, it's better than the wheelchair16:29
kwwiione min phone16:29
mat_tnp16:29
mac_vmat_t: yeah  , the wheelchair , is not nice :/16:29
kwwiimat_t: indeed, it is a bigger sized version16:29
kwwiimat_t: either give me all svg files for png's for different sizes16:30
kwwiiI hadn't clicked on that one yet :p16:30
kwwiimaybe we could put an animated icon of a person shaking wildly and holding a cane?16:30
kwwiimat_t: looking into the gdm code, I have no idea where that icon is defined16:31
mat_tkwwii: you should quit smoking crack, really :)16:31
mat_tkwwii: which one?16:31
mat_tlarge one?16:31
kwwiimat_t: the computer icon16:31
mat_tah16:31
kwwiiI know which icon it is, but not where it is defined in the code16:31
mat_thow about we replace it with Ubuntu logo?16:32
kwwiimat_t: yeah, we could do that16:32
mat_tnice16:32
kwwiias long as it has the right name, it will appear16:32
mat_tgreat16:32
kwwiiI am heading out to get my son dinner, take him to my wife'S sister and then go to band practice...bbl16:33
mat_tI'll get you all the icons tomorrow then16:33
mat_tkwwii: thanks for all the details - enjoy! ;)16:33
kwwiimac_v: do you think you could find where the computer icon is defined in the gdm code and remove it?16:33
kwwiimat_t: hehe, cool, see you then16:33
mac_vkwwii: remove it how? seb or pitti need to approve it16:42
mac_vkwwii: anyways , since finally they have to approved the patch , it would be easier to ask seb/pitti to remove the icon from the code16:44
SiDikwwii: i think knome can confirm noone will object if that damn icon disappears17:17
kwwiimac_v: the problem is not getting the code change in (for me) but actually changing the code ;)17:42
kwwiiat this point, we have to do whatever we can to make gdm look as close to the mockups as possible17:43
mac_vkwwii: why i said , asking seb/pitti is better is ... i'd have to wade through the git for one hr to find it  , but they'd already know where exactly it is and it would be just a minute's work for them :)17:45
kwwiimac_v: ok, I'll do it17:46
NeiiHi is anyone good with gradients?20:05
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