[10:09] <mat_t> mac_v: hey
[10:10] <mat_t> mac_v: the wireless icon still overlaps with the lock...
[10:10] <mac_v> mat_t: did you pull after i edited? i corrected it, it should work correctly now +*
[10:10] <mac_v> :)
[10:11] <mat_t> mac_v: is it in the distro now, or only in your branch?
[10:11] <mac_v> mat_t: not yet in distro , only in bzr
[10:11] <mat_t> ok
[10:11] <mat_t> thanks
[10:12] <mac_v> mat_t: the update hasnt been done since we are in beta freeze , it will among the first updates for beta :)
[10:13] <mat_t> mac_v: hm, so now it seems like you reverted to the lighter gray
[10:13] <mac_v> huh? no.
[10:13] <mac_v> the distor one is still light grey
[10:13] <mac_v> distro*
[10:13] <mac_v> hasnt been updated
[10:14] <mat_t> yes but your latest rev is lighter gray
[10:14] <mac_v> mat_t: no way , it hasnt been touched
[10:14] <mac_v> its the same shade since you last tested it
[10:14] <mat_t> hm
[10:16] <mat_t> what's the location of your branch again?
[10:16] <mac_v> lp:humanity
[10:17] <mat_t> rev 362?
[10:17] <mac_v> mat_t: yup.. check if the icon you have use the color> 606060ff
[10:18] <mat_t> ok, so atm battery and wireless are visibly lighter than volume, bt and messaging
[10:18] <mac_v> all use same color mat_t how can they be less , and as i said it the same shade , i havent touched those icons ;)
[10:19] <mat_t> weird then. OK, let's hope it's my local version getting mixed up.
[10:31] <kwwii> mac_v: see why I always keep things in packaged form? that way, you just point to a .deb package or better yet, have it in your ppa and it gets updated automatically
[10:31] <mac_v> :)
[10:33] <kwwii> mat_t: btw, I worked with ted and cody a bit last night on the xsplash stuff...one thing you could to improve things is to make versions of the jpgs without the color profile embedded
[10:33] <mac_v> kwwii: i think what must have happened , is ... mat_t would have installed the updates which installed Humanity in usr/share/ so they must have overwritten certain files ...or... mat_t must be using the Humanity theme from ~/.icons/ while the distro version from usr/share/ is overriding the icons
[10:33] <kwwii> mac_v: yeah, that would be my assumption as well
[10:34] <kwwii> mat_t: if I open the jpgs and then save them without the profile they will be re-compressed which only makes them lower quality
[10:37] <mat_t> kwwii: why would color profile be an issue?
[10:37] <kwwii> mat_t: it just adds to the file size
[10:37] <mat_t> ah :)
[10:37] <mat_t> ok, np, I'll re-export it without the profile
[10:37] <kwwii> I doubt it gets used, but if it does, I doubt everyone has an lcd monitor
[10:37] <kwwii> :p
[10:37] <kwwii> cool, thanks
[10:38] <kwwii> mat_t: if you want, just export png files and I can do the jpg conversion
[10:38] <mat_t> kwwii: well, exactly - that's what the profile is for... to tell the device "this was done on the lcd and the colors should be like mat_t saw them"
[10:39] <mat_t> kwwii: but most apps will ignore the profile anyway
[10:39] <kwwii> mat_t: yeah, but I do not think that on linux that works...even gimp doesn't do it right
[10:39] <mat_t> sure
[10:39] <mat_t> I'll do it now
[10:39] <kwwii> mat_t: killer, thanks
[10:39] <mat_t> np :)
[10:40] <mat_t> kwwii: what's the resolution we're using?
[10:40] <mat_t> is it still 2560 x 1600?
[10:40] <kwwii> mat_t: yes, but if possible we should include more than one pic..that would make things work faster and, perhaps, solve some of the banding problems
[10:41] <kwwii> mat_t: perhaps 3 different sizes
[10:41] <kwwii> I freed up more than 2mb of disk space (which, hopefully, nobody has noticed yet)
[10:42] <kwwii> mat_t: unless, of course, you think I am smoking crack :D
[10:42] <mat_t> kwwii: ok, what are the resolutions we're currenly including then?
[10:42] <kwwii> mat_t: currentnly only the one pic
[10:42] <mat_t> kwwii: I know you are :)
[10:42] <kwwii> all day, every day
[10:42] <mat_t> can you check what res is that pic?
[10:43] <kwwii> 2560x1600, I worked with them on it last night for a while
[10:43] <mat_t> Ok
[10:43] <kwwii> we have an svg which can render almost as fast as scaling that pic
[10:43] <mat_t> ?
[10:44] <mat_t> What do you mean by "we have an svg"?
[10:44] <mat_t> Did someone recreate the graphic?
[10:44] <kwwii> I mean, I made an svg based on the pixmap
[10:44] <kwwii> but it is not 100% the same, and not quicker anyway
[10:44] <mat_t> ah
[10:44] <mat_t> :)
[10:44] <kwwii> it was worth a try though
[10:44] <mat_t> ok
[10:45] <kwwii> I think that if we had 3 pics, and pick the best one for a range of sizes and scale that it might be much faster
[10:55] <Cimi> kwwii, you were right: in these days, I haven't touched murrine :)
[10:59] <mat_t> kwwii: the difference between with/without the profile is 3 kB :)
[11:00] <mat_t> kwwii: but I managed to get the file size down to 87 KB
[11:00] <kwwii> Cimi: hehe, good for you! A break helps sometimes as well ;)
[11:00] <kwwii> mat_t: killer, every little bit helps
[11:18] <mat_t> kwwii: sent
[12:19] <psyke83> hey
[13:29] <mat_t> kwwii: do you know anything about a new Ubuntu One icon?
[13:57] <kwwii> mat_t: nope, I know nothing about ubuntuone, sorry
[13:59] <mac_v> mat_t: do you mean the ubuntu-one emblems and panel icons?
[14:00] <mac_v> i was sent a few of those to be added to humanity  , and they have been included
[14:00] <mat_t> mac_v: panel icon primarily
[14:01] <mat_t> mac_v: ok
[14:01] <mat_t> thx :)
[14:05] <kwwii> again, none of these changes will be included until after the beta
[15:36] <kwwii> mac_v: did you put those gdm icons from mat in Humanity?
[15:37] <mac_v> kwwii: am i supposed to? i didnt know
[15:37] <kwwii> mac_v: didn't he send them to you?
[15:39] <mac_v> yup , i have them
[15:39] <mac_v> kwwii: ^
[15:39] <kwwii> ;)
[15:48] <mac_v> kwwii: but which folder do i put them?
[15:53] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[15:55] <kwwii> mac_v: no idea, I am afraid that they are app icons
[15:55] <kwwii> they are the icons shown at the bottom of gdm
[15:55] <kwwii> after you click on your user name
[15:55] <mac_v> mat_t: the gdm icons you sent? which folder do they need to be added in humanity?
[15:56] <kwwii> also, I am not sure if he made all of the necessary icons
[15:56] <kwwii> mac_v: I doubt he'll have an answer for that other than "the right one"
[15:56] <mac_v> hehe ;p
[15:57] <mat_t> kwwii: what other ones do we need?
[16:01] <kwwii> let me boot back into karmic, one minute
[16:02] <kwwii> language, keyboard, sessions, accesability, shutdown
[16:04] <kwwii> mac_v: looking at humanity, do you know which icons are being used?
[16:06] <kwwii> mac_v: I think that those icons are all gnome icons, so it shouldn't be too hard to add the right names
[16:07] <mat_t> kwwii: keyb, lang and sessions should never have been using icons in the first place :)
[16:08] <mac_v> mat_t: but they are being used... the desktop team doesnt want to remove those either... so its better we not use those icons
[16:08] <mac_v> kwwii: ^
[16:08] <mac_v> not use your icons*
[16:08] <kwwii> mat_t: all of those changes require code changes, which dbarth said he had no time for
[16:08] <mat_t> right
[16:09] <mat_t> ok, so we'll have a nice theme with ugly icons then ;)
[16:09] <kwwii> mac_v: we honestly want to use these icons
[16:09] <kwwii> mac_v: the desktop has nothing to say about this
[16:09] <kwwii> desktop team
[16:09] <kwwii> we decide on the design, that is why we are called the design team :p
[16:10] <mac_v> mat_t: kwwii: seb does not want to remove those entires , so either all the icons need so to be done in mat_t's style ... or they will look awkward... also... if we use the standard labels , then thos icons will be used during user session
[16:10] <mac_v> in the apps
[16:11] <kwwii> mac_v: right, I agree with that statement
[16:11] <kwwii> mac_v: but they are not used anywhere else that I know of (at least I cannot find the icons in the humanity theme)
[16:11] <mac_v> so there need to be changes in the code  ,either new labels for those icons ... or ...
[16:12] <mac_v> kwwii: they are used , if you show me the screenshot i'll point out
[16:13] <mac_v> all the icons used there have humanity icons...
[16:13] <kwwii> language, keyboard, sessions, accesability, shutdown
[16:14] <mac_v> kwwii: all those are icons used in the menu either system > preferences or system > administration
[16:16] <kwwii> mac_v: yeah, you are right
[16:16] <mac_v> kwwii: its better to not use mat_t's icons or get new labels for them and edit the gdm accordingly ... for which mat_t has to make the complete set of icons
[16:16] <kwwii> mac_v: or set another theme as default for gdm with just those icons in it
[16:16] <kwwii> ;)
[16:16] <kwwii> nasty, but it would work
[16:16] <mac_v> yeah , nice
[16:16] <mac_v> kwwii: either way more work for mat_t ;p
[16:17] <mat_t> mac_v: kwwii: if it's implementable, I'm more than happy to knock out few more icons :)
[16:18] <mac_v> mat_t: that is how we are doing for the gdm theme...
[16:18] <mac_v> different theme
[16:20] <kwwii> mat_t: language, keyboard, sessions, accesability, shutdown
[16:21] <kwwii> make those and we can make a new theme with just those icons in it
[16:22] <mat_t> kwwii: sounds good
[16:23] <mat_t> kwwii: if I get them to you by lunchtime tomorrow, will that do?
[16:24] <kwwii> yepp
[16:24] <mat_t> ok :)
[16:27] <mat_t> kwwii: what about removing the computer icon/name?
[16:28] <mat_t> kwwii: ah, we'll also need a large version of accessibility icon - one displayed in the window
[16:29] <mat_t> kwwii: I'll also change the icon to the human silhouette, it's better than the wheelchair
[16:29] <kwwii> one min phone
[16:29] <mat_t> np
[16:29] <mac_v> mat_t: yeah  , the wheelchair , is not nice :/
[16:29] <kwwii> mat_t: indeed, it is a bigger sized version
[16:30] <kwwii> mat_t: either give me all svg files for png's for different sizes
[16:30] <kwwii> I hadn't clicked on that one yet :p
[16:30] <kwwii> maybe we could put an animated icon of a person shaking wildly and holding a cane?
[16:31] <kwwii> mat_t: looking into the gdm code, I have no idea where that icon is defined
[16:31] <mat_t> kwwii: you should quit smoking crack, really :)
[16:31] <mat_t> kwwii: which one?
[16:31] <mat_t> large one?
[16:31] <kwwii> mat_t: the computer icon
[16:31] <mat_t> ah
[16:31] <kwwii> I know which icon it is, but not where it is defined in the code
[16:32] <mat_t> how about we replace it with Ubuntu logo?
[16:32] <kwwii> mat_t: yeah, we could do that
[16:32] <mat_t> nice
[16:32] <kwwii> as long as it has the right name, it will appear
[16:32] <mat_t> great
[16:33] <kwwii> I am heading out to get my son dinner, take him to my wife'S sister and then go to band practice...bbl
[16:33] <mat_t> I'll get you all the icons tomorrow then
[16:33] <mat_t> kwwii: thanks for all the details - enjoy! ;)
[16:33] <kwwii> mac_v: do you think you could find where the computer icon is defined in the gdm code and remove it?
[16:33] <kwwii> mat_t: hehe, cool, see you then
[16:42] <mac_v> kwwii: remove it how? seb or pitti need to approve it
[16:44] <mac_v> kwwii: anyways , since finally they have to approved the patch , it would be easier to ask seb/pitti to remove the icon from the code
[17:17] <SiDi> kwwii: i think knome can confirm noone will object if that damn icon disappears
[17:42] <kwwii> mac_v: the problem is not getting the code change in (for me) but actually changing the code ;)
[17:43] <kwwii> at this point, we have to do whatever we can to make gdm look as close to the mockups as possible
[17:45] <mac_v> kwwii: why i said , asking seb/pitti is better is ... i'd have to wade through the git for one hr to find it  , but they'd already know where exactly it is and it would be just a minute's work for them :)
[17:46] <kwwii> mac_v: ok, I'll do it
[20:05] <Neii> Hi is anyone good with gradients?