[21:41] <Zachk18> mat_t, welcome
[21:45] <Zachk18> mat_t, i'm back
[21:59] <mat_t> hi Zachk18
[21:59] <mat_t> how can I help?
[21:59] <Zachk18> mat_t, ah i was gonna ask you the same thing
[21:59] <Zachk18> i'm not exactly new here
[22:02] <mat_t> go on
[22:04] <Zachk18> mat_t, well that's it...i'm not new...if you really wanna know 'bout me hre's my wiki... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Zachk18
[22:06] <mat_t> Zachk18: cool! Is there anything you're interested in helping with?
[22:07] <Zachk18> mat_t, if you'll look at this.... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups look at who last edited it
[22:08] <mat_t> great stuff!
[22:08] <mat_t> So, there's plenty of areas we could use your help with. Right now for example we're working on some changes to Ubuntu.com and we want to make it easier for people to swich to Ubuntu
[22:09] <mat_t> in particular, for Windows users
[22:09] <Zachk18> ok
[22:09] <Zachk18> well my wiki has a link regarding firebird...didn't know if you looked at that at all
[22:09] <mat_t> So we should look at the existing tutorials for beginners, eg. how to create the Ubuntu CD or flash drive and see if we can make them better
[22:10] <Zachk18> yeppers
[22:13] <mdke> the team has planned a new installation guide to cover topics like this, if you're interested in helping out it would be great to hear from you on the mailing list
[22:13] <mat_t> mdke: sure, sounds great
[22:13] <Zachk18> i get emails all the time from the ubuntu mailing list
[22:14] <mat_t> mdke: not sure if I'm currently subscribed, what's the url?
[22:14] <Zachk18> same here
[22:15] <mdke> well, it's the ubuntu-doc list
[22:16] <mdke> to subscribe you can visit http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc
[22:16] <mdke> it's kinda the heart of the -doc project, we are pretty quiet on irc
[22:16] <mat_t> mdke: cool, I'm subscribing right now then
[22:17] <Zachk18> shit...forgot my password
[22:17] <mdke> mat_t: cool
[22:24] <mdke> mat_t, Zachk18 - details of the proposed installation guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/KarmicInstallationGuide
[22:25] <mdke> that work should continue in the Lucid cycle
[22:25] <Zachk18> ok....i'll look at that...i'm helping somebody set up a wiki about them right now...
[22:29] <mat_t> mdke: looks fantastic
[22:31] <mat_t> mdke: FAQ section with basic questions is a great idea. We want to include such page on ubuntu.com as well, mostly addressing Windows users who are thinking about trying Ubuntu
[22:32] <mat_t> mdke: do you have any content for this section yet?
[22:32] <mdke> I think that missaugustina is working on it, I'm not sure
[22:32] <mdke> this is not going to be ready for karmic though, as a document
[22:32] <mdke> I think we'd hope to make it available from help.ubuntu.com for Lucid
[22:33] <mdke> when available, obviously links can be added on www.ubuntu.com
[22:36] <mat_t> mdke: great
[22:38] <mat_t> mdke: our copywriter is working on a simple FAQ page now, would be great if you guys had any suggestions
[22:38] <mat_t> mdke: I'll pi
[22:38] <mat_t> I'll point her to the mailing list, too
[22:39] <mdke> thanks
[22:40] <mat_t> mdke: thank you, too. I'm off - it's late here! :)
[22:40] <mdke> obviously I'd encourage her / you to look at the existing documentation on help.ubuntu.com and see if that can be improved, rather than adding documentation to www.ubuntu.com which might duplicate material already available on the help site
[22:41] <mat_t> mdke: good point
[22:41] <mdke> it's a bit ragged at the moment (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation is the landing page for community documentation)
[22:41] <mdke> that's really why we wanted to do a proper guide
[22:42] <mat_t> mdke: stuff on ubuntu.com will be rather basic - we would always link to help.ubuntu.com on a "find out more" basis anyway
[22:42]  * mdke nods
[22:43] <mdke> we really need a more friendly installation landing page :(
[22:43] <mat_t> I agree - we'll get there! :)
[22:43] <mat_t> ok, bedtime for me!
[22:43] <mdke> good night
[22:43] <mat_t> night!
[22:54] <Zachk18> whew