[02:38] <Shadow__X> superm1: do you solve cups problems as well?
[02:42] <tgm4883> Shadow__X, I thinkk he is more of a mug man
[02:43] <Shadow__X> ah gotcha
[04:26] <johannes_> hi, where can I find more informations about the diskless server?
[05:04] <foxbuntu> johannes_, other than the forums, laga is the guy, but he is busy right now and not likely to respond, you can try him later if you can't find what you need in the forums/googling
[05:05] <johannes_> found something interesting: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-initrd.html Ill ask later, if I dont get along thanks
[05:29] <purefusion> anyone know what line I should use as the grub kernel line for mythbuntu installer on a usb drive?
[05:30] <purefusion> the usb drive by itself doesn't seem to boot up on its own (override the hdd) despite BIOS settings in favor of the USB boot priority
[05:41] <mishehu> well this is funny
[05:41] <mishehu> I'm setting up my box, and I find that when I'm setting up the weather information and stuff, whatever the weather source is has put all of Israel as a part of the United Kingdom
[05:41] <mishehu> I think somebody's about 60 some years behind the times...
[05:42] <mishehu> purefusion: I've never used grub for that.  the last time I made a custom usb boot of anything, I used syslinux for that
[05:42] <mishehu> (not saying you should, it's probably just as easy to do it with grub)
[05:43] <purefusion> right, well using syslinux... is that done right on the usb stick itself?
[05:43] <mishehu> yeah, I used the extboot or whatever it's called.
[05:44] <mishehu> extlinux, can't remember at the moment (the machine that I did that work on is offline at the moment)
[05:45] <mishehu> but that I made a custom openvpn firewall/router for a via epia mini itx with an sd card or usb flash drive using extlinux.
[05:45] <mishehu> it wasn't mythbuntu
[05:46] <purefusion> gotcha
[05:47] <mishehu> that's why I said, it might be a viable option, but just keep in mind that it might not be the most optimal for mythbuntu.
[05:48] <purefusion> right on
[05:48] <purefusion> well, if I can get this kernel line resolved I think I would have it settled
[05:57] <mishehu> and I'm guessing the other folks here crashed for the night already
[05:58] <purefusion> is anyone sharing 9.10a6 via torrent?
[06:00] <mishehu> I don't know how well those get seeded.
[06:00] <mishehu> I had a better time the other night grabbing it direct from the web site.
[06:42] <johannes_> I have an idea about diskless booting but before I get into it, Id like you to tell me if it is possible at all, I have drawn, what I want to do: http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5978/ramdiskboot.png
[11:02] <purefusion> can xfce be replaced with gnome's UI?
[14:35] <CyberKnet> superm1: as far as I can tell, I disabled vbi (set vbi type to none in the general section of mythtv-setup) and unfortunately the flickering problem with the PVR-500 video remains. I'll try and get a short capture that shows the problem some time. With video issues it's always so hard to give the 'correct' term for what a visual or audio problem is.
[14:49] <rhpot1991> CyberKnet: have you verified its not in the video itself?
[14:49] <rhpot1991> I'd copy the resulting file to another computer and open it in vlc or something
[14:49] <mrand> purefusion: I believe so.  xfce was jjust chosen because it is lightweight.
[15:03] <superm1> purefusion, i'd be careful though, pulseaudio is tied really closely to gnome these days
[15:03] <superm1> and upstream mythtv doesn't support it well yet (there is code in mythtv to disable it while in myth)
[15:03] <purefusion> hmmm
[15:05] <CyberKnet> rhpot1991: That's also part of the reason I want to capture a small sample of it. Although, I have changed the video playback between Normal, CPU and CPU - also, HD from the PVR-2250 has no problem playing.
[15:06] <CyberKnet> Normal, CPU and  CPU++
[15:13] <rhpot1991> CyberKnet: sounds like a bad tuner/cable/something
[15:13] <mrand> superm1: I wonder if the code in mythtv to disable it explains the bug reports of people losing sound in other apps when exiting myth (they said a reboot fixes it... I wonder if just restarting their window manager would fix it).
[15:14] <rhpot1991> mrand: restarting gdm which may spawn a new frontend :)
[15:14] <superm1> mrand, oh i didn't realize such bug reports were happening
[15:14] <superm1> if these are gnome peoples, that's quite probable
[15:15] <superm1> but it's supposed to be re-enabled as soon as you exit myth
[15:15] <CyberKnet> rhpot1991: weird part is the same card with the same cable in Fedora was working fine. I am thinking I must have configured something wrong somewhere when I installed mythbuntu.
[15:15] <mrand> Yeah.  Let me find those reports and see what info they contain... I've slept a few times since reading them.
[15:16] <rhpot1991> CyberKnet: if you have a recording that shows the issue, check it elsewhere to make sure its not the actual video file.  It is normally the most obvious issue.
[15:17] <CyberKnet> rhpot1991: Yes, that is my next step when I get home tonight.
[15:17] <CyberKnet> Where do you set up resolution? I thought it was on the capturecard in mythtv-setup but didn't see it there last night
[15:17] <CyberKnet> didn't see it when setting up the input connection either.
[20:30] <Mysterious> hello -.-
[20:31] <Mysterious> does anybody know how to change back to ubuntu's normal gnome skin instead of using this mythbuntu style?
[20:33] <Mysterious> this new layout is confusing me strongly :(
[20:35] <darthanubis> Mysterious, go to synaptic and download the theme of your choice
[20:35] <Mysterious> i liked the ubuntu standard theme...
[20:35] <Mysterious> do i have to download it altough i already had it in former times?
[20:36] <darthanubis> if it is still on the system just right click the desktop and change the theme
[20:41] <Mysterious> hm maybe i should just reinstall whole ubuntu
[20:42] <Mysterious> and never install mythbuntu again
[20:42] <darthanubis> if you have the tim eknock yourself out
[20:42] <darthanubis> I NEVER use a mythbuntu cd
[20:42] <darthanubis> I always just install ubuntu and then the mythtv packages
[20:42] <darthanubis> but that is JUST me
[20:42] <Mysterious> hm
[20:42] <Mysterious> i got an ubuntu boot stick to install ubuntu
[20:43] <Mysterious> after the setup i went to mythbuntu.org and installed mythbuntu
[20:43] <Mysterious> so... i have to browse to the mythtv page?
[20:44] <Mysterious> and install it from there
[20:44] <darthanubis> noooooo
[20:44] <Mysterious> great -.-
[20:45] <darthanubis> after installing ubuntu, just open synaptic and then search for "mythtv" then install that application and all related and your done.
[20:45] <Mysterious> every time i give linux another try i become pissed off after a few hours :/
[20:45] <CyberKnet> I liked the mythbuntu installer, but then again - I only use that machine for MythTV
[20:45] <Mysterious> ah
[20:46] <CyberKnet> It's much lighter weight and quicker to boot than the Fedora install it replaced.
[20:46] <CyberKnet> Couldn't comment on if the same is true that it is lighter weight and boots faster than straight ubuntu
[20:46] <Mysterious> hm....
[20:47] <Mysterious> so i just have to use synaptics to get just the mythtv application...
[20:47] <Mysterious> and my desktop and styles won't change
[20:48] <darthanubis> right!
[20:51] <Mysterious> hm i just tried to find it in synaptics but it isn't listed... do i have to add a reposity or something like that?
[20:53] <Mysterious> i think it's quite obvious that i am a dummy
[20:55] <superm1> are you booting into XFCE?
[20:56] <superm1> is that what you mean?
[20:56] <superm1> if so, just log out, and then change your default login session back to gnome
[20:56] <superm1> its at the login screen session settings
[20:56] <Mysterious> hmm
[20:56] <Mysterious> i should take a look^^
[20:57] <Mysterious> in my taskbar menu is something about this strange XFCE
[20:57] <Mysterious> I'll be right back
[20:58] <Mysterious> thanks so far to you all
[21:00] <Mysterious> :D
[21:00] <Mysterious> Thanks so much
[21:00] <Mysterious> I am really stupid^^
[21:13] <darthanubis> superm1, I figured as much:/
[21:36] <Bicchi> I just read a post about mythbuntu 9.10 not being compatible with 9.04
[21:36] <Bicchi> Does this means that i will not be able to upgrade my box ?
[21:39] <superm1> it means that you will need to upgrade your 9.04 install to mythtv 0.22
[21:39] <superm1> tgm4883, maybe we should explicitly mention that in the bug post
[21:39] <superm1> *blog post
[21:41] <Bicchi> superm1: As long as my box upgrades to 9.10 and still runs i am fine with that.
[21:42] <superm1> yeah it will still run fine, it's just you won't be able to talk to earlier 9.04 installs without installing mythtv 0.22 on thsoe
[21:42] <superm1> *those
[21:42] <Bicchi> or will going to mythtv 0.22 with an old config break the install ?
[21:42] <Bicchi> oh ok
[21:47] <rhpot1991> Bicchi: it will upgrade the database for you
[21:47] <Bicchi> good that was my main concern and also the configuration.
[21:47] <tgm4883> superm1, well what do you want to say there then?
[23:01] <rhpot1991> The Mythbuntu Team is proud to announce the release of Mythbuntu Karmic Koala Beta.
[23:01] <rhpot1991> We appreciated all comments and would love to hear what you think. Please make comments to our mailing list, on the forums (with a tag indicating that this is from 9.10 or karmic), or in #ubuntu-mythtv.
[23:01] <rhpot1991> This release includes a very recent snapshot of the current MythTV 0.22 (trunk) branch, so it should be great for helping upstream identify bugs.
[23:01] <rhpot1991> If you encounter any issues with anything in this release, please file a bug on Launchpad
[23:01] <rhpot1991> http://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu or use the Ubuntu bug tool (ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME).
[23:01] <rhpot1991> For more information please visit our website: http://www.mythbuntu.org/9.10/beta
[23:02] <rhpot1991> It is very important to note that this release is only compatible with MythTV 0.22 systems. Previous Mythbuntu releases can be upgraded to MythTV 0.22 with the builds located at http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[23:07] <tgm4883> !pastebin | rhpot1991 ;)
[23:07] <Zinn> rhpot1991 ;): when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[23:13] <rhpot1991> heh quiet you tgm4883
[23:23] <Mysterious1> stupid mythbuntu angers me