[00:06] <ezhangin> well got my raid array to start from the live cd
[00:06] <ezhangin> interesting
[00:07] <ezhangin> let's see if it starts from the OS
[00:07] <ezhangin> i think grub was looking at it earlier
[00:09] <ezhangin> is it ok if the first thing the boot sequence says booting from (hd0,0) even though the boot drive is (hd4,0) i think
[00:10] <ezhangin> yeah
[00:10] <ezhangin> why is it doing that
[00:10] <ezhangin> hmm
[00:14] <ezhangin> anyone have an idea or should i just reinstall?
[00:14] <ezhangin> with the raid drives unplugged for the time being
[00:39] <ezhangin> wtf
[00:57] <ezhangin> different frustrations
[00:57] <ezhangin> now when i start one of my drives (at random) is in md_d0
[00:57] <ezhangin> i have no idea what that is and i didn't set it up
[00:58] <ezhangin> i guess i'll try formatting this thing again
[01:57] <gobjub> hello
[01:58] <Orfeous> hi everyone!
[01:58] <gobjub> could someone please point me to some better documentation about how to use the jaunty uec images (http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/jaunty/) with amazon EC2?
[01:59] <Orfeous> Ubuntu Server edition 9.04 will it be upgradable for ubuntu karmic packages?
[01:59] <Orfeous> or will it be a ubuntu 9.10 server edition?
[01:59] <gobjub> i'm missing some important connection between how to go from the .imgs to an AMI
[02:42] <Orfeous> i just found the answer myself ;)
[02:43] <Orfeous> found the cdimages of ubuntu-server 9.10
[03:11] <qman__> Orfeous, the answer is actually both
[03:12] <qman__> Orfeous, you could upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, or install fresh with the new discs
[03:30] <Orfeous> qman__, thanks for the confirm!
[03:32] <Orfeous> ok, what is recommended install via 9.10 cd and update packages from internet or install via 9.10 dvd?
[03:35] <Orfeous> ill be back later today
[04:26] <error404notfound> anyone who could help on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1278950 ?
[04:46] <qman__> looks like own-sites is a directory, but apache is looking for a file by that name
[05:03] <error404notfound> qman__, hmmm, what could be the cause and any ideas on how to fix it?
[06:51] <ball> Anyone here run Ubuntu Server on entry-level Dell Server towers?
[07:28] <error404notfound> anyone here who has done apache + mod_chroot successfully?
[08:26] <_ruben> hmm .. i really oughta update my pxe boot config to include the jaunty installer .. installing intrepid over pxe, followed by do-release-upgrade is getting old :)
[09:41] <Orfeous> hey!
[09:42] <Orfeous> i just installed ubuntu-server 9.10 and everything works really good! but i wonder if there are any good web based administrator program?
[09:42] <Orfeous> is ebox the onlyone? except running landscape
[09:43] <Orfeous> then i want to setup a domain for my network.. i think its possible to do with samba server
[09:43] <_ruben> ebox and landscape are the supported ones
[10:07] <ivoks> urgh...
[10:08] <ivoks> 2.6.31rcX and 2.6.31 are so different that they broke drbd
[10:08] <kRocKodile> the installation stuck at 2% 'Retrieving file 143 from 159' ubuntu server 9.04 i386 on intel (chipset/cpu) desktop pc
[10:09] <kRocKodile> an have install manu distros on this box, this is the first distro that fail to install
[10:09] <kRocKodile> s/manu/many
[10:09] <AzizLight> hi everybody
[10:13] <AzizLight> I'm installing ubuntu server for the first time, I am doing a manual partitionning. What partitions do I need to create? can I just create a root partition or I have to create other partitions?
[10:15] <ivoks> you need swap too
[10:15] <ivoks> installer will warn you about that
[10:16] <domas> ahhhh, stupid apache. mod_rewrite log code leaked IPC semaphores, even if mod_rewrite log is disabled
[10:16] <domas> you need global mutexes to do nothing, apparently
[10:16] <AzizLight> so root and swap is enough, or should I create other partitions seperately (ie boot, etc)?
[10:16] <domas> oh, and leaked IPC semaphores also means that server doesn't come up eventually
[10:19] <AzizLight> anybody?
[10:19] <firecrotch> AzizLight: I've never had a reason to put /boot on a separate partition. You may want to put /home on its own partition though
[10:20] <AzizLight> firecrotch: let's say I put /home on its own partition, how big should be / and swap? (I have 985GB to spare)
[10:22] <firecrotch> AzizLight: what is the server going to be used for?
[10:22] <_ruben> firecrotch: grub doesnt do /boot on lvm, which is why most of our servers have a seperate /boot partition
[10:23] <AzizLight> firecrotch: it's a developement server
[10:23] <_ruben> and yes, there's no "universal partitioning scheme", it all depends on wishes/needs/et
[10:23] <_ruben> c
[10:24] <firecrotch> For swap, the old standby of at least as much RAM, no more than 2x RAM is safe
[10:32] <AzizLight>  / should be logical or primary?
[10:34] <_ruben> i dont think lilo/grub care that much about that
[10:34] <_ruben> i tend to create 2 primaries: one for /boot, one as lvm vg
[10:34] <_ruben> err, lvm pv
[10:39] <AzizLight> I actually selected the partitionning for the free space
[10:39] <AzizLight> I think that's the best option for a first time
[11:21] <domas> stupid jaunty
[11:21] <domas> (gdb) run
[11:21] <domas> Starting program: /usr/sbin/apache2 -X
[11:21] <domas> Segmentation fault
[11:21] <domas> works on hardy
[11:21] <domas> :-/
[11:27] <maxagaz> i need to see the port XX of a remote host open when using nmap, for that can i use a ssh tunnel ?
[11:27] <maxagaz> if yes, how ?
[11:28] <maxagaz> I tried "ssh -L 5432:localhost:5432 my_remote_host" but still, the nmap my_remote_host -p5432 doesn't show it as open
[11:28] <maxagaz> can someone help me ?
[11:31] <_ruben> -L is for local portmaps
[11:39] <maxagaz> _ruben, how should i do my tunnel to get the result i'm expecting ?
[11:40] <_ruben> well, what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[11:45] <maxagaz> _ruben, i'm trying to tun pgsql on my machine and connect it to a remote server
[11:46] <maxagaz> _ruben, but the port used by postgresl is closed
[11:47] <maxagaz> _ruben, i'd like to open an ssh tunnel, and check using nmap that it is open
[11:58] <atomic_1> you can also check with nestat -tlnp
[11:58] <atomic_1> *netstat
[11:59] <maxagaz> atomic_1, but i should open the tunnel first
[11:59] <maxagaz> atomic_1, that's my problem right now
[12:03] <atomic_1> i just read what you wrote, if i understood you correctly...why would you use a ssh tunnel ? if you can login to the remote machine, you can use netstat to check if the port in question is being used by something else
[12:03] <atomic_1> also check if there is an iptables firewall in place
[12:07] <maxagaz> atomic_1, tcp        0      0 127.0.1.1:5432          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -
[12:07] <maxagaz> atomic_1, i have this twice
[12:08] <atomic_1> this is on the remote machine? run it with root or sudo to see the program
[12:08] <atomic_1> executing it as a regular user does not show the program name
[12:08] <maxagaz> atomic_1, tcp        0      0 127.0.1.1:5432          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      14153/postgres
[12:09] <atomic_1> there you go
[12:09] <atomic_1> there is a pg server there :)
[12:10] <maxagaz> atomic_1, i want to connect to it with pgadmin
[12:10] <maxagaz> atomic_1, from my machine
[12:10] <atomic_1> well, i think it needs to be listening on the external interface
[12:10] <atomic_1> the one connected to the internet
[12:10] <atomic_1> i dont have experience with pg
[12:10] <atomic_1> but i am sure you can configure which interface it runs on
[12:11] <atomic_1> what you pasted suggests that its bound on loopback (127.0.1.1)
[12:12] <atomic_1> funny, i've had the same situation with a mysql server recently, and i also tried to use ssh tunnel for this :)
[12:12] <atomic_1> and then use mysqladmin to connect to "localhost"
[12:12] <atomic_1> but it didnt work
[12:13] <atomic_1> i mean, mysql-query-browser
[12:14] <maxagaz> atomic_1, i got it!!
[12:14] <maxagaz> atomic_1, thanks
[12:14] <atomic_1> that'll be 4 dollars
[12:14] <atomic_1> ;)
[12:14] <atomic_1> np
[12:14] <maxagaz> atomic_1, ;)
[12:26] <maxagaz> atomic_1, from what you told me, i checked netstat -tlnp, saw there was two lines about pgsql
[12:27] <maxagaz> atomic_1, in the config of pgsql, it was set to listen on localhost and myhostname which points to 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts
[12:27] <maxagaz> i changed this by its ip
[12:28] <maxagaz> which was reflected by netstat -tln
[12:29] <maxagaz> atomic_1, then "nmap myhost -p5432" told me it was open from my machine!
[12:29] <atomic_1> that's what i would do too
[12:30] <atomic_1> or check if i can set it on ethX, better that way
[12:30] <atomic_1> either way should work
[12:30] <maxagaz> atomic_1, which way is better ?
[12:31] <maxagaz> atomic_1, also, can i netstat from my current machine to my remote server  ?
[12:31] <atomic_1> you cannot use your local netstat to check a remote server
[12:32] <atomic_1> its not a port scanner :)
[12:33] <maxagaz> atomic_1, ok
[12:33] <atomic_1> if your remote machine is not behind a nat
[12:33] <atomic_1> just set it to listen on the public ip address
[12:33] <atomic_1> if it is, you can still do it, but setup port forwarding on the gateway
[13:07] <alourie> hello
[13:10] <jimlovell777> Sorry for possibly being off topic but I thought this might be a good place to ask...... can anyone point me to a secure php contact form script or just a few good validation functions to prevent against injection attacks and any other security issue that comes from having a contact us page with sendmail access?
[13:12]  * ttx goes for one more UEC reinstall.
[13:24] <zul> morning
[14:09] <alourie> Hello all! Can I join the server team?
[14:11] <henkjan> alourie: of course. read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/GettingInvolved#becomemember
[14:11] <alourie> henkjan: I've read that, I don't really understand how to proceed. How about "find the area of interest" ?
[14:12] <alourie> oh
[14:12] <alourie> it's just applying to Launchpad...
[15:01] <benjamin__> hi, I try to run a shellscript wich I used on centos on a ubuntu 8.04 server, and I get the error "read: 160: Illegal option -a". Anyone an idea what's wrong?
[15:01] <benjamin__> the line is:
[15:01] <benjamin__>     while read -a a line; do
[15:02] <benjamin__> both shells are bash
[15:09] <mdeslaur> someone asked me if we are going to get symantec netbackup and backup exec client support for ubuntu server soon. Does anyone know?
[15:11] <aubre> I asked botchagalupe to see about getting native .debs for TSM
[15:13] <incentifit> I've just learned how to use adduser in a basic way.  I need to add a LOT of users a lot of times.  I'll be rebuilding the machine often.  How can I script this, is it possible.  I'm imagining putting my list of users, passwords, and their groups into a file/script
[15:21] <alvin> incentifit: If you're using perl, you can use linlinux-usermod-perl (Linux::usermod)
[15:21] <alvin> s/linlinux/liblinux
[15:21] <zul> smoser: ping...your patch for ec2-ami-tools work right?
[15:32] <RoyK> hi. does anyone have a link to a howto on making ubuntu packages?
[15:33] <Pici> !newpackage
[15:37] <aubre> I noticed that the default setting in eucalyptus on Karmic is now MANAGED-NOVLAN, what brought that on?
[15:51] <stonekeeper> Hi there. Can anyone remember the name of the ubuntu specific project for configuring ubuntu server via a webpage? I can't remember off the top of my head (not webmin). Thanks.
[15:51] <_ruben> ebox
[15:51] <_ruben> or landscape
[15:54] <lbsjack> who can run Eucalyptus successfully under ubuntu 9.10 aplha 6?
[15:56] <stonekeeper> thanks ruben
[15:56] <kirkland> zul_: kicking some vmbuilder butt?
[15:56] <kirkland> :-)
[15:56] <zul_> kirkland: trying to
[15:57] <kirkland> zul_: well done, vmbuilder needs a hug
[15:57] <zul_> it does it does
[16:03] <zul> that and I like to fill up people's email
[16:07] <AzizLight> how can I modify the default mysql collation please?
[16:34] <zul> mathiaz: yay https://code.aunchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+activereviews
[16:35] <jmarsden> AzizLight: use the --character-set-server= and --collation-server= options.  See http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/charset-configuration.html
[16:57] <smoser> kirkland in -curses mode of kvm, how do i get to console ? what is the escape?
[17:00] <smoser> it apparently is not ctrl-a (at least its not working for me)
[17:01] <JanC> you're not using screen?  ツ
[17:02] <smoser> no
[17:02] <smoser> yeah, i did check that :)
[17:11] <mruiz> hi all
[17:12] <mruiz> is there any official documentation to set up kvm under Jaunty or Karmic ?
[17:17] <zoopster> mruiz: have you reviewed the official server guide?
[17:18] <mruiz> zoopster, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/virtualization.html
[17:18] <mruiz> but I don't know if it is up to date
[17:19] <zoopster> mruiz: that is the draft for karmic, yes.
[17:20] <mruiz> great!
[17:25] <mathiaz> ttx: should I cleanup the Items for Discussion section of the Meeting wiki page?
[17:25] <mruiz> zoopster, thanks
[17:25] <ttx> mathiaz: sure
[17:26] <mathiaz> ttx: ok - I'll try to keep the recurring items there
[17:26] <mathiaz> ttx: and remove specfici ones (like things related to beta)
[17:26] <ttx> mathiaz: sure
[17:27] <mathiaz> ttx: and I'll write up the minutes
[17:28] <ttx> mathiaz: I bought the "Where in the world is my team" book btw
[17:28] <mathiaz> ttx: argh - you broke the meme (and my planned joke)!
[17:29] <mathiaz> ttx: awesome - I returned mine to the library
[17:50] <free> mathiaz: yo
[17:50] <mathiaz> free: hi
[17:50] <mathiaz> free: I should have more time to get through the landscape-client/smart SRU now that beta is over
[17:50] <free> mathiaz: sweet
[17:50] <mathiaz> free: what's the bug number again?
[17:51] <free> mathiaz: #347983
[17:51] <mathiaz> bug 347983
[17:51] <free> mathiaz: I was wondering if it's possible to set up a deadline somehow, as having that update pushed is becoming very important
[17:52] <free> mathiaz: ideally we'd like to get it done before the end of this month
[17:52] <mathiaz> free: that should be doable (considering we're the 1st of the month)
[17:52] <free> mathiaz: perfect
[17:53] <free> mathiaz: I guess the sooner the better though, as I believe things will get very busy for you folks as we apprach the karmic release
[17:53] <mathiaz> free: one of the big stumbling block may be the smart update
[17:53] <mathiaz> free: IIRC landscape-client has an SRU expeption, but not smart
[17:54] <free> mathiaz: that's correct
[17:54] <mathiaz> free: IIUC smart intrepid is a new upstream release
[17:54] <free> mathiaz: also correct, jaunty is not
[17:55] <free> mathiaz: the changes between the two versions are not that many though, if needed we could help in reviewing them and explain what they do
[17:55] <mathiaz> free: yeah - that's probably what should be done
[17:55] <mathiaz> free: in order to help in accepting the SRU team
[17:56] <free> mathiaz: how do you think we should organize this?
[17:57] <mathiaz> free: have two clearly marked sections in the bug description
[17:57] <mathiaz> free: one dealing with the landscape-client SRU and one dealing with the smart SRU
[17:57] <smoser> kirkland, ping
[17:58] <kirkland> smoser: pong
[17:58] <mathiaz> free: both sections should follow the standard SRU format: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure
[17:58] <smoser> hey. i have 2 things
[17:58] <smoser> a. with -curses option to kvm, i can't seem to get to console. changing -echr seems to hvae no affect.
[17:58] <mathiaz> free: I'll have a look at the attached patches - they seem good
[17:59] <mathiaz> free: once that is done, I'll get the package ready for upload
[17:59] <free> mathiaz: okay, I'm going to re-work the description now
[17:59] <smoser> i'm thinking its possibly between chair and keyboard, but dont know
[17:59] <mathiaz> free: and I'll wait on an update description of the bug
[17:59] <mathiaz> free: the goal here is to get a clear description about the SRU
[17:59] <mathiaz> free: so that the ubuntu-sru is comfortable with accepting the update
[18:00] <free> mathiaz: so once you upload them to {intrepid,jaunty}-proposed the SRU team is going to review them looking at the bug?
[18:00] <mathiaz> free: yes
[18:00] <kirkland> smoser: hmm, i'm not sure about that one
[18:00] <free> mathiaz: okay
[18:00] <kirkland> smoser: as aliguori in #ubuntu-virt?
[18:00] <mathiaz> free: they will look into the queue, see if there is a bug reference in the changelog and look at the bug
[18:01] <mathiaz> free: this is why it's important to have the bug number in all the changelog as a reference
[18:01] <free> mathiaz: cool, the bug reference is now on the top of each debian/changelog, as you recommended
[18:01] <smoser> b. how does a guest become aware virtio ? .. mainly, you mentioned unaccelarated-ness of sym53c8xx . what faster path is there, and how should we change our images such that they take it.
[18:02] <kirkland> smoser: it's not the guest that decides to use virtio
[18:02] <kirkland> smoser: its the hypervisor
[18:02] <kirkland> smoser: or libvirt
[18:02] <kirkland> smoser: specifically, the kvm command line
[18:02] <kirkland> smoser: i have a kvm wrapper in $HOME/bin/kvm that does it for me
[18:03] <kirkland> smoser: let me paste you a line:
[18:03] <kirkland> smoser: sudo /usr/bin/kvm -m 512 -smp 2 -usb -usbdevice tablet -net nic,model=virtio -net tap,script=/home/kirkland/bin/bridge.sh -drive file=karmic-server.img,if=virtio,index=0,boot=on
[18:04] <smoser> if=virtio
[18:04] <smoser> i was just about to write htat
[18:04] <smoser> so then, i wonder, why eucalyptus is running with if=scsi
[18:06] <mathiaz> smoser: it may depend on the guest OS - hardy guests don't support block virtio
[18:06] <kirkland> smoser: please prepend 'kirkland';  i'm following too many channels :-)
[18:06] <kirkland> smoser: i think virtio requires support in the guest
[18:07] <kirkland> smoser: which has been available since ~hardy
[18:07] <kirkland> smoser: but might break older guests, and per chance non-Linux guests?
[18:07] <kirkland> smoser: scsi is more universally available than virtio, i suspect
[18:07] <smoser> you're rpbably right
[18:07] <kirkland> smoser: but you can get a ~10x performance improvement with virtio disks and virtio network
[18:08] <kirkland> smoser: that's supposition on my part; don't take it as gospel yet
[18:08] <mathiaz> smoser: kirkland: to be correct: hardy supports virtio network, but not virtio disks.
[18:08] <kirkland> smoser: might confirm that elsewhere
[18:08] <kirkland> mathiaz: ah, thanks
[18:10] <mathiaz> smoser: kirkland: TBH hardy will also work with virtio disks - but there were some bugs in virtio disks that made us switch hardy to not officially use virtio disk
[18:10] <mathiaz> kirkland: smoser: that was done in virt-manager - the default template for a hardy guest will use ide as the block device
[18:21] <mathiaz> smoser: writing up the meeting notes -
[18:21] <mathiaz> smoser: <smoser> mdz had asked that vmbuilder's version be included in the manifest
[18:21] <mathiaz> smoser: <smoser> that is less straighttforward, as we're currently building with vmbuilder trunk.
[18:21] <mathiaz> smoser: couldn't the bzr revno be used for that? ^^
[18:22] <kirkland> mathiaz: cool, thanks
[18:22] <smoser> yeah. it just doesn't match with the rest of manifest data
[18:22] <smoser> i would suggest even branch-id:revno
[18:22] <mathiaz> smoser: right - better than nothing though
[18:32] <kirkland> ttx: smoser: mathiaz: i gotta drop for a few minutes while I replace my 100mbps switch with a 1000mbps switch, and move some hard drives around
[18:32] <kirkland> UEC testing takes fast network, faster disks
[18:32] <kirkland> my 100mbps + usb disks in my DMZ cloud aren't cutting it
[18:33] <mdz> smoser,mathiaz: I am not concerned about where it gets stashed; if you want to keep the manifest format the same (which I agree is useful), you could stash it somewhere else
[18:34] <smoser> i absolutely agree that we should record it.
[18:34] <smoser> would just writing to 'vmbuilder-version.txt' be sufficient ? or something like that ?
[18:41] <jcastro> smoser: kirkland: the eucalyptus test page says: # The most recent Ubuntu Server ISO which can be found at: TBC.
[18:41] <jcastro> what shall I put there?
[18:41] <jcastro> is that just a pointer to the normal ISOs?
[18:42] <mathiaz> jcastro: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[18:42] <mathiaz> jcastro: ^^ this will always point to the latest daily -server iso
[18:42] <smoser> well, in a couple hours beta link. but there are nightlies at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[18:42] <jcastro> ok
[18:42] <smoser> yeah
[18:42] <mathiaz> jcastro: however it may be broken
[18:43] <smoser> what mathiaz said
[18:43] <jcastro> I know where those are, I'm just making sure that that's what the eucalyptus page should point to right?
[18:43] <jcastro> ok
[18:44] <jcastro> ok nm, reading the testcases makes it obvious that it's the normal server iso.
[18:44] <smoser> the -server isos are what we use for eucalyptus installtion
[18:44] <smoser> yeah
[18:55] <free> mathiaz: hey I've updated the bug description of #347983, does it feel better?
[18:57] <ball> Anyone here using entry-level tower servers (e.g. HP ML110, Dell T100 ?)
[18:59] <mathiaz> free: great! much better. Thanks for updating this
[18:59] <free> mathiaz: np!
[19:02] <hiffy> hey peeps
[19:03] <hiffy> ubuntu server 9.04 - vim isn't in the path, there is no vim-common in the repo and it says vim-tiny is already installed. What gives?
[19:05] <felimwhiteley> hiffy: just a thought, I *think* vim-tiny actually runs as vi, certainly when I run it I get colour etc. when I enable it in the config file
[19:05] <hiffy> i just noticed it's listed as vim.tiny
[19:05] <hiffy> which uh confuses me
[19:05] <hiffy> it's been vim-full for *years*
[19:06]  * felimwhiteley uses nan anyway
[19:06] <hiffy> the implication behind vi is that it is old school and annoying and I don't want to use it, or at least my years of doing this has trained me
[19:06] <hiffy> i.e. the default version of vi that ships with everything
[19:06] <felimwhiteley> aye but it's vim in ubuntu all the time even when you jsut run vi afaik
[19:07] <hiffy> this is a freshly rolled install and it's not :(
[19:07] <hiffy> ah well, if i can't get syntax highlighting working i'll be annoyed
[19:14] <jtimberman> on karmic, why does couchdb require xulrunner??!
[19:14] <blistov> what is pae?
[19:14] <jtimberman> physical address extension
[19:15] <jtimberman> blistov: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[19:15] <blistov> is linux-generic-pae the default kernel for karmic now?
[19:22] <blistov> Anyone know how to install libstdc++-33 in karmic/
[19:22] <blistov> ?
[19:32] <jjohansen> smoser: do you want to give i386: aki-c28063ab, ari-c48063ad  x86_64: aki-a68063cf, ari-ba8063d3
[19:32] <jjohansen> smoser: they are built with the more virtualized configs
[19:33] <smoser> give what ?
[19:33] <smoser> give them a test ?
[19:36] <jjohansen> smoser: yeah
[19:49] <Hypnoz> my iphone supports PPTP, L2TP, or IPSec.  Any free apps that will run one of these easily?
[19:49] <giovani> sure
[19:50] <Hypnoz> any suggestions gio?
[19:50] <giovani> openvpn is widely used
[19:50] <Hypnoz> openvpn doesn't support any of those does it
[19:50] <Hypnoz> i have openvpn running already, so if it did that would be the best
[19:50] <Hypnoz> was thinking i'd have to set up a 2nd vpn just for my iphone
[19:51] <giovani> of course openvpn does
[19:51] <Hypnoz> not natively right
[19:51] <Hypnoz> i'd need some kind of plugin?
[19:54] <Hypnoz> everything i've read says the phone doesn't support openvpn cause it can't create a tun adapter
[19:55] <giovani> if you want to use something proprietary like pptp then I think there's a pptpd
[19:56] <giovani> ipsec is the way to go ... but, it's not as easy to set up -- openswan is the big daemon for that on linux
[20:04] <|rt|> iphone does work with poptop
[20:04] <Hypnoz> poptop = pptpd?
[20:04] <|rt|> yeah
[20:05] <Hypnoz> ya i was getting that feeling after some testing
[20:05] <Hypnoz> rt have you ever connected iphone to a linux vpn?
[20:05] <|rt|> yeah we have a poptop, pptp vpn, here at the office
[20:05] <Hypnoz> i'm looking at the openswan wiki now, might try ipsec
[20:06] <|rt|> we have some ipsec stuff too but currently only use it for the permanate tunnels
[20:06] <Hypnoz> so i just need to configure my pptpd better and iphone will be able to connect...
[20:07] <|rt|> Hypnoz: in theory :)
[20:07] <|rt|> Hypnoz: i'll msg you to see if I can help with your configuration
[20:07] <Hypnoz> you know what port pptpd runs on?
[20:08] <|rt|> pptp runs on two ports 1723 and 47 for GRE
[20:10] <|rt|> i guess that's IP protocol 47 not port 47 for GRE
[20:47] <smoser> zul_, ping
[21:18] <gre0> Q: on a ubuntu box running as a NIS server, when changing a NIS user's password as root, does root have to specify the user's old password before entering the new?
[21:19] <gre0> (this is the case on a SLES box I inherited, and I am trying to fix it by messing with PAM)
[21:27] <Bilge> So I tried to mount a FAT device
[21:27] <Bilge> Wasn't happening on Ubuntu server 8.04 LTS
[21:27] <Bilge> FAT: codepage cp437 not found
[21:28] <Bilge> Apparently this means I need to reconfigure and recompile the kernel
[21:28] <Bilge> Does this sound right or am I way off the track somewhere
[21:28] <Bilge> In some ways I hope so because I really know nothing about recompiling kernels and whether it's safe/possible with only remote SSH access
[21:30] <alex_joni> sounds like you need to 'sudo modprobe nls_cp437'
[21:30] <alex_joni> maybe that makes it work
[21:30] <alex_joni> Bilge: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/how-do-i-mount-a-usb-drive-at-boot-time-630115/
[21:43] <Bilge> a) not a USB drive b) not boot time
[21:43] <Bilge> This server hasn't been booted in
[21:44] <Bilge> up 465 days
[21:50] <smoser> jjohansen, you have configs available for those ?
[21:50] <smoser> i wish our kernels had /proc/config.gz support
[21:50] <jjohansen> smoser: sure
[21:55] <jjohansen> smoser: chinstrap:/home/jj/config-ec2
[21:56] <smoser> thanks.
[21:57] <Bilge> alex_joni: modprobe gives: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.24.5-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv4-32/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[21:59] <Bilge> depmod can't generate it either
[21:59] <Bilge> More errors
[22:00] <Bilge> heh, never mind, fixed all that
[22:00] <Bilge> FATAL: Module nls_cp437 not found
[22:00] <Bilge> heh
[22:02] <Bilge> `modprobe -l` returns nothing
[22:03] <Bilge> lsmod returns Opening /proc/modules: No such file or directory
[22:03] <Bilge> Something is really not right with this modules system
[22:14] <Vog> did the 9.10 beta just get released?
[22:14] <Vog> apt is dog slow today...