[00:04] an ancient myth [00:05] Hehe [00:06] I thought it was just a word they tagged in front of ,the universe and everything === yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:16] davmor2: You're testing edubuntu and making me look bad here :P [00:16] fader_: d-i installs die no ubuntu-desktop [00:17] That sounds bad. [00:17] I'm doing the kubuntu d-i install right now... Hopefully that one will work. [00:30] fader_: kub only needs 1 -desktop file so should be fine [00:30] right I'm off to bed I'll see what left tomorrow nn everybody [00:53] * fader_ knocks off for the evening. === fader_ is now known as fader|away [02:44] sbeattie: is there anything that could use testing? [02:46] ubuntu-server amd64 upgrade could use a tester [02:46] plus backfilling any missing testcases, I guess. [02:47] I'll do the amd64 server upgrade === slangase` is now known as slangasek [06:44] slangasek, that would be, that's a shame it didn't work. It would be nice, however, if some could confirm the bug and release note in that case [06:48] * ara takes ubuntu server i386 Install (default + crypted LVM) === asac_ is now known as asac [07:18] slangasek, can you point me to the lvm bug number that sbeattie was having in edubuntu? === Wajih is now known as MaWaLe [08:17] * ara reboots [08:29] Morning all [08:40] morning davmor2 [08:40] morning ara [08:44] * ara reboots [09:28] davmor2, will you be able to do edubuntu amd64 dvd (I am downloading now edubuntu i386 dvd)? [09:28] ara: I'm just waiting for them to finish downloading [09:29] just doing the ubuntu 64 m-a [09:30] davmor2, cool [09:51] ara: not offhand; it should be fixed now though, which can be confirmed easily enough by trying an lvm+crypt install [09:53] slangasek, ok, thanks, I will try it whenever it gets downloaded [09:53] slangasek, thanks [09:55] muhahaha I have them both now I'm just waiting the 6 hours for them to burn :( [10:13] * davmor2 goes straight in for the kill and does d-i edubuntu first [10:15] 56 min remaining for me... [10:16] ara: I got them both [10:17] davmor2, ok, start with amd64, then [10:17] I am [10:18] slangasek: the encrypted stuff is in next to see if we get through packaging [10:25] ara: I'd cancel your download [10:26] davmor2, why? are you going to do i386 as well? [10:26] d-i bailed out again [10:30] davmor2, what happened? I am a bit lost with edubuntu, can you point me to a bug number, please? [10:30] no bug yet [10:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/282849/ [10:30] it's a packaging conflict [10:31] davmor2, ok, I am reading now #u-release [10:33] asac: you around? [10:44] davmor2: should i hide? ;) [10:44] yes but it's too late now I can see you :P [10:45] hehe [10:45] go ahead [10:47] on ubuntu I just done an install and tried to view the video entry for ubuntu free culture showcase at http://vimeo.com/2265645 and the yellow bar at the top says it's missing a codec. Plugin Finder Service is triggered and I get No suitable plugins were found. [10:48] asac: ^ [10:48] davmor2: yes. please go about:config ... search for "pfs." and change both urls. replace 9.10 with 9.04 (at the very end) [10:48] i didnt put the data in the db yet [10:48] for 9.10 [10:51] asac: that's got it. I'll add it to the bug I wrote a while back [10:52] asac: when will you have the fix in place? === yofel is now known as yofel_ [10:59] davmor2: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubufox/+bug/427734 [10:59] Launchpad bug 427734 in ubufox "ubufox not loaded in Firefox 3.5 on karmic alpha 6 CD" [High,Triaged] [10:59] so you say it workd for you on CD? [11:01] asac: Sorry? [11:02] davmor2: is ubufox available on livecd [11:02] thats that question [11:02] that bug says its not enabled [11:02] guess you did a real install then ;) [11:02] asac: right that was on the installed system 2 sec and I'll find out for you [11:03] thx [11:03] check in tools->addons [11:03] if ubufox is not there [11:03] ping me ;) [11:10] davmor2, ara: how about kubuntu, xubuntu testing? Looks like there are some gaps in coverage there [11:10] also missing one migration-assistant test (64-bit), and one LTSP server test [11:11] asac: this is weird. I open FF on cd and I get 2 windows open one of which is the add-ons window. It says it's had 3 new languages added 1.9.1.2 for xulrunner (bn)(de)(en) to replace 1.9.0.8 and which of the tabs will show the ubufox? [11:11] * ara checks [11:11] slangasek: just done the 64 side by side passes [11:11] just burning the alternate for the other ltsp [11:11] davmor2: you should see it in the notification you get on first start. if not check the Extensions tab [11:12] asac: No to notification and no to being ins Extensions [11:12] davmor2: can you run the ls commands i asked for in the bug? [11:13] also ... do you have /usr/lib/mozilla/extensions/{ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}/ubufox@ubuntu.com ? [11:13] davmor2: if you are busy with other stuff do that first. i dont think we can fix this for beta still ;) [11:14] * ara takes ubuntu alternate i386 ltsp [11:15] asac: I got enough machine to throw at the remaining tests. No /usr/lib/firefox-addons/ubufox* [11:16] ara: Oh okay I'll kill of the xubuntu ones then [11:17] davmor2, I just realised that I won't be able to the ltsp as I don't have a xed network cable :( [11:17] davmor2: that firefox-addons one is bad (like i said in the bug) [11:17] maybe reload the bug page ;) [11:18] ara: okay you start the xubuntu and I'll ltsp :) [11:18] davmor2, ok [11:18] asac: :) [11:25] asac: added to bug [11:28] davmor2: asked on bug [11:44] reconnect [11:44] asac: I'll get back to you in a second [11:48] is anyone working on the kubuntu desktop amd64 tests? [11:50] davmor2: sure [11:50] sbeattie: not this instant but I can in a minute :) [11:51] davmor2: I'me taking the kubuntu desktop fulldisk and knr i386 fulldisk [11:51] I'm unfamiliar with setting up the ltsp environment, if you want to take those. [11:51] sbeattie: cool :) [11:52] slangasek, I was able to install edubuntu dvd i386 successfully [11:52] ara: hmm, what did you do differently than davmor2? :) the bug that we've identified should affect the default install on both archs equally [11:53] slangasek, just normal installation full disk, Spanish locale [11:53] ara: live or d-i [11:53] right, the failure mode is with a d-i install [11:53] live [11:53] slangasek, ah, ok [11:53] yes live works fine [11:54] (the equivalent bug in a live context would have manifested as a livefs build failure, so we're apparently good there) [11:54] * davmor2 heart slows back down [11:57] asac: lp isn't liking adding that trace I can drop it on my site instead for you if you want [11:59] asac: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/strace.log.txt [12:14] davmor2, I am afraid I wont be able to help with the remaining xubuntu test cases. virtualbox 64bits guest is not working for me today [12:14] ara: no worries [12:14] davmor2: can you verify that /usr/lib/mozilla/extensions/{ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}/ubufox@ubuntu.com links to the right ubufox dir? [12:14] e.g. the one with install.rdf inside [12:17] asac: poted ls -al to bug [12:20] davmor2: but is there an install.rdf? [12:20] ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/extensions/{ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}/ubufox@ubuntu.com/ [12:22] on bug but yes [12:23] davmor2: ok ... please apt-get install --reinstall ubufox ... remove your .mozilla again and then run the same strace [12:27] * ara takes the remaining kubuntu netbook ones [12:27] hi all. I can't install ubuntu karmic using wubi. After instalation completes, i am presented with grub shell [12:28] Aleksey_S, davmor2 knows the bug number for that one [12:29] i tried karmic alpha6 and yesterday daily build [12:29] ara : is there some workaround? [12:30] Aleksey_S, I don't know the exact symptoms, but apparently it does not always fail [12:30] get the bug [12:30] getting even [12:30] arado you mean a couple of reboots might help? :-) [12:30] Aleksey_S: Bug 439279 [12:31] Launchpad bug 439279 in wubi "There seems to be some instability with the installer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439279 [12:31] ara: when you install knr, if you run the live session first, are you ever able to get ubiquity to show over the knr interface? [12:31] Aleksey_S: are you on kubuntu? [12:31] davmor2 : no [12:31] sbeattie, I am still downloading it, 17%, I'll let you know :) [12:32] Aleksey_S: sorry just saw. Try a reinstall or just reboot a couple of time. It's a weird bug that doesn't seem to leave a trace in any logs at the moment [12:32] davmor2: that bug isn't exactly what i mean [12:32] Aleksey_S: it's all related :) [12:33] davmor2 : windows part of installation process was finished, linux part too. after second reboot (when i expect to see fresh ubuntu) i get grub shell [12:35] Aleksey_S: Yes that is the exact problem. Everything say the install work which it quite obviously hasn't. That is the problem. There is nothing in any logs saying it broke [12:35] davmor2: i have recently uninstalled that not working karmic from wubi. Do i need to download today's daily build and give it try? [12:38] Aleksey_S: Sorry if that wasn't using 20090929.2 then it won't work no. [12:38] You need to be using the very latest cd for it to be working at all [12:39] also i have a question not related to this issue. I am visually impaired so use orca screen reader. It is easy to start ubuntu with orca from live cd, but wubi accessibility options have no human-readable labels for this. there are three radio buttons: visibility1, visibility2, visibility3. What i need to chose to have orca? [12:41] * ara -> lunch [12:41] davmor2 : oops. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ -- there are no desktop images. am i missing something? [12:42] Aleksey_S: No idea on that I'm afraid. Because it is reliant on the windows side of things rather than the linux side. [12:42] Aleksey_S: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [12:43] davmor2: no. i looked at the wubi sources and labels are exactly mean-less [12:44] davmor2 : thanks! do you recomend amd64 or x86 version? What is more stable? I have only 1 gb of ram on this laptop. [12:45] Aleksey_S: depends if you laptop is capable of running 64bit [12:45] davmor2: it is capable. intel core 2 duo [12:45] * Leonidas uses the amd64 version. [12:45] Aleksey_S: 32bit i386 is more user friendly but both are about as stable as each other [12:46] Haven't had problems stability-wise. [12:46] davmor2: why more friely? [12:46] *friendly [12:47] Leonidas: I get issues with things like flash and skype etc from time to time on 64bit [12:47] Aleksey_S: ^ [12:47] that doesn't stops me. [12:47] davmor2, ara: edubuntu 20091001.1 should fix the alternate install problem, and should be very rsyncable - can you give it a try? [12:48] i've just started downloading the amd64 version. thanks guys [12:48] davmor2: I don't use skype and flash, because they are nonfree. [12:48] davmor2: hmm, you never posted a failure report on the tracker for edubuntu d-i [12:49] but I heard both kindof work on amd64, to.. [12:49] davmor2: have you any ideas about that strange profiles? which i am supposed to choose? [12:49] slangasek: I didn't finish getting round to make a bug on it, I wasn't sure what or where to file it. I'm assuming it is another cdimage thing [12:50] davmor2: wasn't asking after a bug, just a failure report on the tracker :) [12:50] but it should be irrelevant now [12:51] Aleksey_S: Sorry Profiles? [12:54] Aleksey_S: As I said as far as I can tell the ones in wubi are not for orca they enable the windows accessibility stuff. Once you get into the Ubuntu side you can use orca as normal [12:54] slangasek: syncing [12:55] davmor2: i am quite unsure wubi can do something about braille support in windows. But there is a radio button for braile in wubi accessibility profiles [12:56] davmor2: so i assume that profiles are for ubuntu. wubi interface in windows is quite accessible [12:58] Aleksey_S: Pass then absolutely no idea I'm affraid === slangase` is now known as slangasek [13:40] davmor2: are we there yet? :) [13:41] running now [13:50] running where? === fader|away is now known as fader_ [14:00] sbeattie, ubuquity appeared correctly on the top in kubuntu netbook [14:03] ara: hunh, okay. [14:07] slangasek: it's got further than before and is still going I can only assume this is a good thing :) [14:07] ok [14:07] fader_: Morning Dude [14:07] is there any ETA on being able to sweep up the other outstanding tests? [14:10] 2+ hours [14:11] ok [14:12] might be able to cut that down thought alternating machines [14:12] ara: can you hit the out standing kubuntu desktop 32bit auto resize please [14:12] davmor2, sure [14:14] davmor2: Howdy [14:15] ara: many thanks [14:15] cr3: morning Dude [14:16] * ara is doing kubuntu desktop i386 auto-resize and kubuntu netbook (all except wubi) [14:25] slangasek: it's building the thin client now so I guess that means all the packages are installed \o/ just need to see if it finishes now [14:25] davmor2: ahoy, matey [14:26] cr3: you broke checkbox :P fader_ paid me to say that :D [14:26] Heh, davmor2 I thought the deal was that you abuse me and I abuse cr3. If you go straight to abusing him and cut out the middleman, what will I do for a living? [14:27] fader_: Oh alright then it was your code that buggered the whole thing up and you paid me to say it was cr3 feel better now ;) [14:28] davmor2: Much better. :) [14:28] fader_: did you pass the log onto cr3 and did it show anything useful? [14:28] fader_: so, what's up? I got a bunch of test results yesterday, what have you encountered? [14:29] davmor2: I haven't received anything in my inbox this morning [14:29] davmor2: Which log is that now? [14:30] cr3: I ran checkbox that is in the distro, and half the tests didn't work :( [14:30] davmor2: you're a qa person, "didn't work" is not very descriptive [14:30] fader_: the one that means you get to tick off AAO [14:31] I should have /ignore for anyone who just tells me "didn't work", it's happening far too regularly [14:31] davmor2: I didn't get any log from you... maybe it got spamfiltered. I'll check on that. [14:31] cr3: I'm going to go through it properly tomorrow when I have more time [14:31] fader_: no the link to the hw database [14:31] davmor2: Ahhh, okay that one. :) [14:31] davmor2: That doesn't provide the data we'd need to troubleshoot test failures, unfortunately [14:32] davmor2: thanks, but telling me: 1. what you experienced; 2. what you expected; 3. how to reproduce. that would be appreciated [14:32] fader_: oh no I'm doing that tomorrow [14:32] We'd need ~/.checkbox/*log or ~/.cache/checkbox/*log for that [14:32] davmor2: Okay, cool. Now I'm on the same page as you. You have to give us North Americans time to get coffee in us before you start talking to us :) [14:34] cr3: I can tell you that everything mic based failed because the test stopped before you got to talk [14:34] fader_: ^^^ I believe you wrote those, right? [14:35] cr3: Yup, not sure what davmor2 did to break it though. It Works For Me™. [14:35] We'll figure it out tomorrow when davmor2 has time to walk through it with me [14:35] fader_: is the one in the desktop the most upto date? [14:36] if not that could be why :) [14:36] davmor2: It *should* be [14:37] davmor2, fader_: if one of you could create a bug in Launchpad against the checkbox project and assign fader as the assignee, that would be an excellent reminder for tomorrow... just in case [14:37] * cr3 is afraid of things falling through cracks [14:37] cr3: Roger wilco. davmor2, I'll subscribe you to it [14:37] cr3: I'm dedicating tomorrow to it :) [14:38] davmor2: things happen and plans change, recording problems as bugs is a good way to give you that flexibility to change without feeling bad about it :) [14:38] davmor2: who knows, you might be called upon to do UEC testing tomorrow [14:38] cr3: shhhhhh [14:42] fader_: nice [14:43] ? [14:43] just got email about the bug :) [14:43] Ah :) [14:46] slangasek: On a plus side I just did 2 tests in one edubuntu runs ltsp whether or not :) [14:52] slangasek: however I think it is an epic fail. It only install the ubuntu desktop and edubuntu server so of course you don't get the educational software on the default install which I think bends logic [14:52] davmor2: that's not for me to say [14:53] it has installed though [14:54] is it normal that kubuntu appears as "Ubuntu Linux" in the grub entry? or should it say something like "Kubuntu Linux" ? [14:56] ara: normal; branding the bootloader is non-trivial without chopping up the grub2 package [14:56] slangasek, ok, thanks :) === marjomercado is now known as marjo [15:20] slangasek: Right I'm just waiting on the live cd to finish installing then that is edu 64 done 32 bit is burning and the last alt xub is running. DO you want me to run wubi on xub? [15:21] davmor2: given that wubi is listed as a xubuntu test case, it would be good to have that done [15:21] (if we're not going to be testing it, it should be removed from the ISO going forward) [15:21] slangasek: not a problem. === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [16:05] davmor2: Do I remember some discussion of jockey not seeing wifi drivers on an hp mini yesterday? [16:06] yes [16:07] fader_: the outcome I think was it was broke [16:07] Did anybody figure that one out? :) [16:07] Heh [16:07] Okay, thanks [16:07] fader_: pick on pitti [16:08] I have a question regarding Checkbox. Can I view my test results on lauchpad after they are sent there? Or can this only be accomplished with the API? [16:08] fader_, it was a mini9 [16:08] fader_, I think [16:09] ara: Ah, hmm [16:09] I'm seeing the same thing on an HP mini [16:09] ara: keybuk's was on a mini10v [16:09] fader_, let me find the bug number for you [16:09] fader_: is it the same hw? [16:09] davmor2: Not sure [16:09] broadcom? [16:09] It's a broadcom device [16:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/439530 [16:10] Launchpad bug 439530 in jockey "Wireless card not detected on Dell Mini 9" [High,Triaged] [16:10] bc2312 off the top of my head [16:10] bc4312 even [16:11] can anyone check if this is happening in normal kubuntu desktops? bug 440045 [16:11] Launchpad bug 440045 in kdebase-workspace "KDM does not give an error message when typing a wrong password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/440045 [16:11] ara: Thanks [16:13] Riddell: ^ [16:13] I don't suppose anyone knows what package I'd need to grab to get the broadcom device working, since jockey isn't helping? :) [16:13] fader_: bcmwl-kernel-source? [16:14] slangasek: 50% through the edubuntu live install [16:15] davmor2: ok, thanks [16:15] * fader_ hugs slangasek. [16:15] just installing windows for the xub wubis too [16:16] That also explains why apt-cache searching for 'broadcom' didn't work :P [16:20] fader_: 'apt-cache search broadcom' was how I found it... [16:20] hehehe [16:20] slangasek: Weird, it didn't come up for me. Maybe I misspelled 'broadcom' :/ [16:20] fader_: if you didn't have a network up yet, you wouldn't have any Packages files from the archive for apt-cache to search against? [16:21] fader_: yeah broodcam won't work dude [16:24] slangasek: Well, I had it plugged into a physical etherhose, but in order to reach the connector I had to turn the netbook around backwards and type upside down [16:24] heh [16:24] So it's entirely possible that I mistyped or misread it :/ [16:25] (That's why I so desperately needed wifi ;) ) [16:26] fader_: you could just buy a longer ethernet lead of course :P [16:27] davmor2: Yeah, I'm using a cable trailing around the corner of someone else's cubicle in the Lex office... I think next time I'll ask for my own connection :) [16:28] fader_: just sit on their lap they won't mind it's for a good cause ;) [16:28] Hehe === jsalisbury_ is now known as jsalisbury [17:44] davmor2: closing in? [17:47] slangasek: yes just picking off the kubuntu desktop auto resize while the edubuntu continues to slowly install [17:55] slangasek: Meh post gres option for moodle kills the install I'll try it with the mysql backend see if it passes. Then run it again to get the logs and stuff and bug it properly. I'll just do a makeshift one for now [17:59] oh dear [17:59] why are the Ubuntu DVDs not posted on the tracker :/ [18:00] * slangasek gets those posted, a bit late [18:00] davmor2, fader_: you guys have anything left for DVD testing? [18:00] crap [18:01] yeah can do [18:01] should already have them dl'd [18:01] if these have to get published late, not the end of the world; we don't advertise them prominently [18:03] slangasek: Sorry, I don't have access to a system I can test DVD images on at the moment :( [18:03] fader_: ok [18:04] I only have my netbook on me ATM [18:04] fader_: bloody excuses ;) [18:04] davmor2: Nah, I just want to make sure you have something to do to keep you busy and out of trouble ;) [18:45] BOO! [18:51] slangasek: Ubuntu Dvd's starting to trickle through [18:58] shouldn't the Karmic beta be released today? can't see it on the ubuntu site [19:00] yes [19:00] but not yet [19:00] :P [19:00] the release schedule says oct 1 [19:00] timmy376: shouldn't be too long [19:03] think it's going to be tomorrow... [19:04] timmy376: It's still Oct 1 for some time yet :) [19:05] (More or less depending on where you are in the world) [19:05] 4 hours remaining here :-) [19:12] timmy376: the release manager lives in the us so it's lunch time ish [19:29] evening ara [19:30] evening davmor2 [21:11] hi everybody [21:12] guys, I'm trying to download ubuntu-9.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso with Torrent. I get: "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker.". On other side Alternate is downloading correctly. Who's in charge for Torrent Tracker? [21:22] slangasek: ^ [21:22] I just tried it desktop doesn't want to play [21:23] * sbeattie thinks slangasek may have gone to bed already. [21:24] davmor2: might be better to raise it on #ubuntu-release; cjwatson may know more about how to fix. [21:27] the fix is "ask IS", fwiw [21:32] slangasek: ah, cool, thanks, didn't know how that was managed. [21:51] night night every body [21:51] davmor2: Goodnight! Get some rest :) === fader_ is now known as fader|away === yofel_ is now known as yofel