[00:00] <stlsaint> teolicy, maybe here.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage
[00:00] <jakerue> losher - OK off to work.  I think I found a thread that will help me
[00:00] <losher> jakerue: ok, so I see about 50G on sda1, 100G on sda5 and 11G on sda6, for a total of 160G which is your disk. So what exactly was resized, sda5?
[00:00] <stlsaint> mib_mib, are you using public or private ip address in browser?
[00:00] <bastid_raZor> mib_mib: possibly your isp is blocking port 80, to verify try a non standard port.. for example 9999
[00:00] <jakerue> losher - yep.  Gotta run though.  What commands should I be looking for to make this work?
[00:00] <|2-bits|> @dual: I believe it is. Hold on a minute
[00:01] <losher> jakerue: df -h would be next...
[00:01] <dual> |2-bits|, ok, cool :)
[00:01] <mib_mib> stlsaint: i tried both the internal and external ip's
[00:01] <mib_mib> stlsaint: neither worked
[00:01] <losher> kingfishr: still there?
[00:01] <crizzle> Hey all - anyone fancy helping me get to grips with getting wireless working (complete and utter n00b here) :D
[00:02] <jakerue> losher - that only shows % of sda1 and sdb1 ....sda5 not shown
[00:02] <jakerue> losher - thanks for the help but I really have to run.  Next time
[00:02] <losher> jakerue: that usually means sda5 isn't mounted. That would explain why you don't see it... ok, next time
[00:03] <fccf> benc: from what I can tell there are 'some' problems, however if you are running 8.10 or 8.04 thrift is available already compiled here https://launchpad.net/~txamqpteam/+archive/ppa
[00:03] <stlsaint> mib_mib, you using nginix for load balance or revers proxy?
[00:03] <benc> fccf: cool. thanks
[00:03] <mnaines> How can I get my laptop to see a shared printer that's connected to my desktop?
[00:03] <|2-bits|> @dual: Okay so I dont' have ubuntu open right this minute BUT if I remember you go to You have to go to System->Sessions and what not
[00:03] <mib_mib> stlsaint: the one thing I think i could have misconfigured, is the virtualconf file - I don't have a domain name like www.blah.com - i just want to use my ip address, but for servername and serveraliais, i just put bs stuff www.first.com and first.com
[00:04] <|2-bits|> and there should be a window with two tabs... the open one should have your start up items and the second one should have a check box that says "remember your sessions or something like that?
[00:04] <fccf> benc: see also here http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-71 and  http://wiki.apache.org/thrift/GettingUbuntuPackages
[00:04] <mib_mib> stlsaint: reverse proxy - it handles the static content, and passes it through to apache for dyanmic stuff
[00:04] <dual> |2-bits|, yes. Great. Thanks :D
[00:05] <dual> Just hope it works tomorrow when I turn it on again :)
[00:05] <kingfishr> losher, yes
[00:06] <stlsaint> mib_mib, so why the reverse proxy setup...if its all local?
[00:06] <losher> kingfishr: run synaptic and search for glib. Look for 'libglib'. That'll tell you what your current version is, and whether there's a later version in the repository you can upgrade to...
[00:06] <stlsaint> mib_mib, and what do you have in your apache2 /var/www?
[00:07] <kingfishr> losher, yeah the problem is that the latest version is older than what webkit wants
[00:07] <mib_mib> stlsaint: i don't want it all to be local, rather, what i would like to do is be able to go to my ip address, and have a django project set up
[00:07] <kingfishr> losher, I'm trying to build newer glib myself in my own directory and then pass that as an argument b/c I think webkit will use GLIB_LIBS when looking for glib
[00:08] <mib_mib> stlsaint: but i have apache set up with mod-wsgi for django
[00:08] <mnaines> Samba is the one for file and print sharing, right?
[00:08] <mib_mib> stlsaint: so when i do like curl 127.0.0.1 i get some stuff back, but when i go to my ip address, i get nothing
[00:09] <stlsaint> so loopback is config wrong maybe? you have firewall?
[00:09] <mib_mib> maybe ufw, but i don't think its misconfigured, let me check
[00:09] <losher> kingfishr: yes, that's what I'd do next. If webkit doesn't use GLIB_LIBS you can maybe look in the makefiles for the library and edit it so it finds your local copy. It's a pain though...
[00:09] <fccf> mnaines: yes, with windows ... for printing in linux networks Cups , and fileshareing ... well there are a number of options
[00:10] <mnaines> fccf, I use Gutenprint drivers for printing
[00:10] <Chun1> Having a slight problem: when I'm playing music with audacious, I don't get sound from flash videos in firefox. If I load firefox/flash first, audacious refuses to play anything until I close firefox
[00:11] <stlsaint> mib_mib, you seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Django
[00:11] <mnaines> Chun1: I use Rythmbox for music
[00:11] <{Onyx}> Hmmm, thought I had sorted out all my sound issues but I found another one. I've got my dedicated card for speakers and my on board for headphones and mic. All that's working, the problem is that the volume slider from the speaker icon is adjusting volume for the on board even though I have default set to the x-fi
[00:13] <hwilde> !clone
[00:13] <MenZa> # 00 08 * * * in crontab would run the following command every day at 8am, yeah?
[00:13] <Raydiation> beta out yet?
[00:13] <mnaines> fccf, what is a good way to share files and printers between Linux machines without creating a security risk?
[00:13] <{Onyx}> If I open volume controls I can adjust the volume so it has to be some setting in sound prefs but everything looks like it should be defaulting to the x-fi
[00:14] <{Onyx}> mnaines keep it behind a fireawll
[00:14] <mib_mib> stlsaint: i checked UFW and made sure that the rule to allow tcp on port 80 is enabled
[00:14] <Hillshum> mnaines: Use a private network
[00:14] <losher> mnaines: totally agree with {Onyx} ...
[00:14] <kaashif> program called fritzing gives me a .sh file. i can open it from terminal but not by double clicking on the sh file. solutions?
[00:14] <heater_> I have a power management problem in Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty. Settings are set to NEVER put monitor nor computer to sleep, but monitor sleeps after 20 min. Any ideas?
[00:14] <kaashif> here's the sh file pastebinned: http://pastebin.com/m1b17bc2
[00:15] <{Onyx}> Unless you're running some type of server there's no need to have anything from your network not behind a firewall.
[00:15] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I have the kernel firewall configured for restrictive mode and I have my two computers on a separate subnet with its own router
[00:15] <testNow34> where can I get the svn subversion 1.7 client for jaunty?
[00:15] <{Onyx}> So you're trying to print/file share between the two subnets/
[00:15] <{Onyx}> ?
[00:15] <hwilde> MenZa, yes
[00:16] <MenZa> hwilde: thanks
[00:16] <kaashif> nobody knows about sh files ?
[00:16] <kandjar> what the easiest way to know if a file has DOS style ending or Linux style ending without changing the file?
[00:16] <{Onyx}> properties
[00:17] <mnaines> {Onyx}: No, my laptop and desktop are on the same /27 subnet, which is separate from the /24 subnet that the rest of the network operates on...My printer is on the desktop but I want to be able to print remotely from the laptop
[00:17] <mib_mib> stlsaint: yah - i've set up this exact server before on a VPS, now i'm trying to set it up in the same way at my house, but for some reason i can't connect to it outside of my router
[00:17] <hwilde> MenZa, the # sign comments out the line however, and you don't need double digits just   0  8   will do
[00:17] <{Onyx}> then you should be fine
[00:17] <mib_mib> bastid_raZor: why would my isp block port 80? I need port 80 because i'm running an http server
[00:18] <MenZa> hwilde: excellent, cheers.
[00:18] <{Onyx}> mib, there's no way your ISP is blocking port 80
[00:18] <sjoerd>              
[00:18] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I don't know how to configure either computer to allow printer sharing, though
[00:18] <{Onyx}> what type of printer?
[00:18] <{Onyx}> you could adhoc the printer in to the network
[00:18] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Canon Pixma iP4500...Connects to the desktop via USB
[00:18] <stlsaint> mib_mib, hhmm...something is looking in the wrong place if you have django setup right...should start from basics
[00:19] <hwilde> printer sharing is here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba#Sharing%20CUPS%20Printers
[00:19] <stlsaint> router>firewall...etc etc then move to apace2.conf...django setup
[00:19] <bastid_raZor> mib_mib: some isp's do. my former isp blocked ports 22,23, and port 80. i had to use different ports for ssh also.
[00:19] <{Onyx}> Are there any usb hook ups to your router?
[00:19] <mib_mib> bastid_raZor: can i use different ports for the http server? how will people access it then without putting the port?
[00:19] <mnaines> {Onyx}: No...The router is a D-Link WUA-2340
[00:19] <{Onyx}> Hmmmm, I'd go with hwilde's link for printer sharing then
[00:20] <hwilde> yes.
[00:20] <losher> mib_mib: some isps have a 'no servers' policy, so the block may be deliberate...
[00:20] <mib_mib> stlsaint: well, i think one of my main problems is the router, and the second problem is maybe something having to do that i'm using a domain name but i don't actually have it registered maybe?
[00:20] <mnaines> hwilde: I use Gutenprint drivers...I don't know if the instructions for CUPS would apply to the Gutenprint drivers
[00:20] <Blehk> This sed script doesn't work: sed -i 's/ignoreip = 127.0.0.1/ignoreip = 127.0.0.1 10.0.0.0/\14/g' /etc/fail2ban/jail.conf How do you escape  the slash in the cidr address?
[00:20] <mustafa> \leave
[00:20] <{Onyx}> the only ports I'm aware of that an ISP would be port 25 to prevent spam bots
[00:20] <hwilde> mnaines, install the driver locally, share with cups/samba.
[00:21] <bastid_raZor> mib_mib: people would have to use the port you specify. ex. mine is bastid:9999
[00:21] <mnaines> hwilde: Are Cups and Gutenprint compatible with each other?
[00:21] <losher> mib_mib: eliminate the second problem for the moment by using the 'raw' ip address in your url...
[00:21] <hwilde> mnaines, you use the driver to print locally.  you use cups/samba to share the printer.
[00:22] <stlsaint> mib_mib, yea instead of names use ip address...i dont have my domain linked to my ip yet so i do all my site editing via ip thru browser
[00:22] <bastid_raZor> mib_mib: yes you can use any port you wish. set it in the router to forward to 80 or have apache listen on a different port
[00:22] <mib_mib> losher: exactly what i'm trying to do
[00:22] <mib_mib> i am putting my router's ip address in, but nothing comes up
[00:22] <hlpmeplz> how do I select UTC in tzconfig?  (working from shell)
[00:23] <Beardbar_> whats the command to find file sizes larger then 10mb again?
[00:23] <hwilde> Blehk, use a comma instead of a / for the sed delimiter, then you don't have to escape the slashes.  or escape them with a backslash
[00:23] <{Onyx}> mib, are you trying to get incoming connections from outside or within your network?
[00:23] <stlsaint> mib_mib, sorta what i just said aint it... =)
[00:23] <Blehk> alright, cool thanks hwilde
[00:24] <m0r0n> My Compiz features aren't working, how do I reset it?
[00:24] <hwilde> m0r0n, system, preferences, appearance
[00:24] <losher> mib_mib: the router has to be configured to forward the port. Also, did you mention a kernel firewall somewhere? That too has to be configured to forward the port. You can choose any port as long as you're consistent. The use a url with the port embedded, e.g. http://1.2.3.4:8080/foo
[00:24] <stlsaint> m0r0n, go into compiz settings manager and set to defaults
[00:24] <zofrex> tearing my hair out, done extensive googling to no avail - I cannot have "nvidia-glx-185" (or 190) installed concurrently with "xorg", installing one (with apt-get) removes the other. Help! (Ubuntu 9.04)
[00:25] <mib_mib> I am using UFW, i set up a rule to allow port 80/tcp - so thats fine
[00:25] <marcellus> there is a 185 and 190 now?
[00:25] <mib_mib> I am forwarding port 80 on my router to the ip address of the server
[00:25] <zofrex> yes
[00:25] <zofrex> 185 isn't particualrly new
[00:25] <mib_mib> So I should instead forward a different port on my router?
[00:25] <saniasan> pidgin 2.6.2 how can I enable video and audio
[00:25] <hwilde> zofrex, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:25] <mib_mib> and listen on a different port for my nginx server?
[00:25] <JohnCDI> ive been using ubuntu for a little while now and ive programmed some smaller things in windows and i tried to run a simple "hello world" program in C i have build-essential installed and the libraries but for some reason it calls a syntax error to the printf function any help?
[00:26] <hwilde> JohnCDI, pastebin the code and the error please
[00:26] <stlsaint> yes mib_mib you gotta change that as well...just the post tho...not the ip
[00:26] <Legendre> Question of the evening.. How the heck do I force X to use a native driver for a grapics chipset, and not the default VESA FB driver?
[00:26] <zofrex> hwilde: after installing xgl, or xorg?
[00:26] <zofrex> *glx
[00:26] <JohnCDI> sorry *gcc compiles it fine the errors come up when in terminal i ./programname
[00:26] <losher> mib_mib: so first step, from the server, can you contact http://localhost ?
[00:26] <mib_mib> losher: yes, i'm remote, but i can curl localhost and get back some html stuff
[00:27] <hwilde> zofrex, it should take care of it for you
[00:27] <losher> mib_mib: 2nd step, from inside the firewall on a different machine, can you contact http://server
[00:27] <zofrex> hwilde: command not found :P
[00:27] <JohnCDI> #include <stdio.h>
[00:27] <JohnCDI> main()
[00:27] <JohnCDI> {
[00:27] <JohnCDI>     
[00:27] <JohnCDI>     printf("Hello, World");
[00:27] <JohnCDI>     return 0;
[00:27] <FloodBot1> JohnCDI: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:27] <hwilde> zofrex, install it...
[00:28] <hwilde> !paste > JohnCDI
[00:28] <{Onyx}> no closing }
[00:28] <{Onyx}> john
[00:28] <hwilde> lol he got kicked before the paste finished
[00:28] <zofrex> it takes 20 seconds to run a google on this machine.. if you know which package it's in off the top of your head that'd be useful
[00:28] <mib_mib> losher: the firewall is strictly on the server, i can, however, ssh into that machine, and do curl localhost; from my other machine behind the router though, if i go to that internal ip .... 192.168.1.100, i get nothing
[00:28] <hwilde> zofrex, that is the name of the package.   or aptitude search nvidia-xconfig
[00:28] <saniasan> and open not exe open .c
[00:28] <JohnCDI> oops.
[00:28] <JohnCDI> lol
[00:29] <saniasan> :)
[00:29] <zofrex> ok I think I have some package management problem then 'cos that package doesn't exist
[00:29] <hwilde> zofrex, hold on...  it was provided by nvidia-glx-180
[00:29] <{Onyx}> mib is 192.168.1.100 the server or the router?
[00:30] <hwilde> zofrex, why do you want 185 or 190?   180 seems to be the newest one I see
[00:30] <losher> JohnCDI: you sound confused. Syntax errors come from the compiler. Run-time errors happen when you run the program. Which are you seeing?
[00:30] <mib_mib> {Onyx}: its the internal ip of the server
[00:30] <hwilde> JohnCDI, pastebin the code and the error please
[00:30] <zofrex> hwilde: uh dunno. it was in a step by step tutorial for setting up the software I want (xbmc) on the machine I own (AsRock NetTop)
[00:30] <zofrex> if the 180 supports VDPAU then I'm happy with that
[00:31] <{Onyx}> if you're port forwarding 80 to the server try hitting the router
[00:31] <JohnCDI> im trying to use paste bin.
[00:31] <losher> mib_mib: so do you expect http://192.168.1.100 to work i.e. the server firewall allows it?
[00:31] <mib_mib> {Onyx}: same, get nothing
[00:31] <{Onyx}> err port forwarding 80 on the router
[00:31] <Legendre> Anyone know? How to specify a particular driver for Xorg?
[00:31] <hwilde> zofrex, sry I dunno, I installed 180 and it gave me a binary nvidia-xconfig which helped, then it enabled the driver and nvidia-settings through the gui menu
[00:31] <mib_mib> losher: i expect everything on port 80 to work - the firewall lets all tcp on port 80
[00:31] <{Onyx}> Did you make sure you were allowing that connection and not denying it? I've done that before on mistake.
[00:31] <marcellus> Legendre: edit xorg.conf ?
[00:31] <nanotube> Legendre: edit xorg.conf
[00:32] <Legendre> ubuntu always defaults to vesafb (I think)..
[00:32] <mib_mib> {Onyx}: yep, just checked my rules
[00:32] <stlsaint> mib_mib, if all ip info is good its coming down to the conf files
[00:32] <Legendre> nanotube: marcellus - there's notihng in there, lol!
[00:32] <losher> mib_mib: can you ping the server from the client (what's the clients ip address btw?)
[00:32] <nanotube> Legendre: put stuff in there.
[00:32] <zofrex> hwilde: 180 is installing without uninstalling xorg
[00:32] <JohnCDI> #include <stdio.h> main()  {          printf("Hello, World");     return 0; } ./hello.c: line 5: syntax error near unexpected token `"Hello, World"' ./hello.c: line 5: `    printf("Hello, World");'
[00:32] <{Onyx}> Is the server behind the router?
[00:32] <hwilde> Legendre, in the device section for the video card specify the driver like:      Driver         "nvidia"
[00:32] <zofrex> any idea why 185 and 190 have issues?
[00:32] <Legendre> like seven lines of generic-y stuff
[00:32] <mib_mib> {Onyx}: yes, which is the main problem
[00:32] <{Onyx}> try taking down the fireawll on the server then
[00:33] <hwilde> zofrex, because they are beta?  dunno I am happy with 180 and I have a quadro fx 570 pretty new
[00:33] <marcellus> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[00:33] <zofrex> alright
[00:33] <m0r0n> Anyone have a mobo with express gate?
[00:33] <zofrex> I'm just trying to get OpenGL acceleration in X (weirdly VDPAU worked :S)
[00:33] <mib_mib> losher: i can ping it beautifully, as the client is behind the same router
[00:33] <Legendre> hwilde: so anything I put in there will override the default?
[00:33] <_AaLinux> I want to play .mp3 files with rhythmbox , which plugins would i have to install?
[00:34] <mib_mib> {Onyx}: done, nothing stil
[00:34] <{Onyx}> restricted-extras legendre
[00:34] <hwilde> Legendre, theoretically
[00:34] <Legendre> hwilde: you made my point
[00:34] <{Onyx}> err aalinux
[00:34] <{Onyx}> Hmmmm,
[00:34] <{Onyx}> You have a port scanner mib?
[00:34] <losher> mib_mib: then I would expect  http://192.168.1.100 to work 'beautifully' too. I agree with {Onyx}. Try turning off the firewall temporarily....
[00:34] <stickboy> anyone know how to get transmission 1.6* or 1.7* on 8.10 64bit?
[00:35] <Legendre> hwilde: I haven't dealt with X on deb/ubu before, and I was really taken aback when I saw that .conf file
[00:35] <mib_mib> losher: completely turned off
[00:35] <losher> mib_mib: and...?
[00:35] <_AaLinux> {Onyx}: What are the inner elements of restricted-extras?
[00:35] <mib_mib> losher: nothing! haha
[00:35] <dlp211> hey guys...just looking for a recomendation....what do u guys think is the best VNC client? (must be available for win32)
[00:35] <mib_mib> losher: it must be the port forwarding isn't working....?
[00:35] <{Onyx}> aalinux lots of codecs that don't come standard
[00:35] <maccam94> dlp211: tightvnc is good
[00:35] <mgv2> there is no fucus mode on aiming at open arena? - i dont understand how can i hit with such small dot
[00:35] <marcellus> mib_mib: what are you trying to do?
[00:36] <mib_mib> marcellus: run a server behind a router
[00:36] <dlp211> yea i have tight....just wondering if anyone was using somethin else
[00:36] <{Onyx}> I've got a one shot command around here that installs everything media, let me see if i can find it
[00:36] <losher> mib_mib: from the inside-the-network client, there isn't any port forwarding. It's direct to  http://192.168.1.100 port 80. Nothing in the server logs?
[00:36] <stlsaint> mib_mib, yea check router setup
[00:36] <marcellus> mib_mib: and what have you done so far?
[00:36] <maccam94> i'm temporarily installing ubuntu on a USB stick to be used on only one machine for a week or two. should i use the liveusb creator or just run the normal ubuntu installer?
[00:36] <dlp211> mib what router u have
[00:36] <mib_mib> losher: from the inside-the-network-client, 192.168.1.100 port 80 givves nothing
[00:37] <losher> mib_mib: what's the client ip address?
[00:38] <mib_mib> 192.168.1.104
[00:39] <mib_mib> marcellus: everything works on the server side, so from the server itself curl localhost works fine - set up the config files and virtual confs, from the outside, nothing comes in
[00:39] <stlsaint> mib_mib, i think there are too many hands in this issue...hope ya get it fixed...getting a little crowded! =)
[00:39] <mib_mib> i guess i can try changing the port that is forwarded
[00:39] <marcellus> mib_mib: does it work within the LAN?
[00:39] <mib_mib> stlsaint: very much so, thanks!
[00:40] <mib_mib> marcellus: nope
[00:40] <losher> mib_mib: ok, so a directly connected client (with no router involvement) fails, but it works for localhost, The kernel firewall is disabled (sure?). Next thing I'd check is the server logs to see if the server even sees the client request....
[00:40] <mib_mib> losher: it doesn't see the request it looks like
[00:40] <eminor> hello :)
[00:40] <mib_mib> losher: i checked the apache and nginx logs
[00:41] <losher> mib_mib: the only way I can explain that is if the kernel firewall is blocking the request...
[00:41] <marcellus> mib_mib: have you checked the router log?
[00:41] <mib_mib> losher: i am using ubuntu, and have installed 'ufw' - i did ufw disable, so it is stopped completely.
[00:41] <jack_> salut ttlm
[00:42] <musikgoat> mib_mib: anything in "iptables -L"
[00:42] <losher> mib_mib: double check that with sudo iptables -L
[00:43] <losher> JohnCDI: your latest example compiles & runs for me...
[00:44] <{Onyx}> I need to get back to learning programming as well.
[00:44] <{Onyx}> I can modify code like no one's business but can't code anything from scratch
[00:44] <mib_mib> has some stuff, but just some BS, here is hte pastebin http://pastebin.com/d2ef28e9f
[00:44] <mib_mib> marcellus: i just enabled logging on the router, so i'm checking now
[00:45] <marcellus> mib_mib: can you ping within the LAN?
[00:45] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Now I have another problem...All the photos I print are grainy, and no amount of altering the settings fixes it
[00:45] <{Onyx}> marcellus: he can
[00:45] <losher> {Onyx}: some people work on 'sustaining' all their lives: they don't originate code, they only fix bugs in existing code. Nothing wrong with that...
[00:46] <{Onyx}> Yeah, that's cool if I have something to work with as a template. But sometimes you need to do something new.
[00:46] <mnaines> {Onyx}: You ever tried recursive computation when coding?
[00:46] <mib_mib> marcellus: yep, can ping within the lan
[00:46] <mib_mib> marcellus: the internal IP
[00:46] <marcellus> but you can telnet to port 80
[00:47] <marcellus> can't
[00:48] <mnaines> mib_mib: Is there a way you can check the routing table?
[00:48] <losher> {Onyx}: well, start small, with a well-defined requirement for something...
[00:50] <Bluey> having problems with the 64 bit version of ubuntu 9.04 version 2.6.28-15 causing lockups - doesn't do this with -14 -- any known issuses?
[00:51] <mib_mib> telnet 192.168.1.100 80 is refused immediately
[00:51] <mnaines> mib_mib: Are you trying to telnet outside the network?
[00:51] <mib_mib> mnaines: no, inside the network
[00:51] <mnaines> mib_mib: Is the router configured to disable telnet?
[00:52] <mib_mib> i wouldn't think so
[00:52] <mib_mib> but i can't be sure
[00:52] <mnaines> mib_mib: Most routers, you have to manually tell them to enable telnet.  All the ones I have worked with will not allow telnet or FTP by default
[00:53] <coz_> guys if I get error    protoc: not found
[00:53] <coz_>    what would I be missing?
[00:53] <musikgoat> mnaines: hes looking for http headers on port 80, not accessing telnet
[00:53] <mib_mib> mnaines: okay - i'm not actually concerned with telnet though, more concerned with tcp
[00:53] <mnaines> mib_mib: You need CLI mode for that...
[00:54] <mib_mib> wait - i guess it doesn't make sense to use port 80 for port forwarding....wouldn't this mean that all my incoming traffic would forward to my server?
[00:54] <musikgoat> mib_mib: just so i understand right, your trying to access a web server from a LAN and its failing?
[00:54] <marcellus> I don't see why the router would limit what you can do within the LAN by default.
[00:55] <mib_mib> musikgoat: setting up a server inside a lan (i.e. behind a router)
[00:55] <mib_mib> musikgoat: i'm also inside the lan, failing hard, yes
[00:55] <mnaines> mib_mib: 80 is the port you need to get out to the internet.  You want to do port forwarding, you might want to use a less-congested port
[00:55] <musikgoat> mnaines: that is not good advice
[00:56] <physic> can one see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81895
[00:56] <musikgoat> mib_mib: first troubleshoot the server not working in the lan, then troubleshoot port forwarding, which yes you will need to do to allow incoming requests to be routed to your server
[00:56] <musikgoat> mib_mib: I would suggest dropping all your iptables stuff
[00:57] <marcellus> he has no such such stuff
[00:57] <mib_mib> drop all iptables? here they are: is this actually anything significant?  http://pastebin.com/d2ef28e9f
[00:57] <{Onyx}> Hmm, anyone fixed the annoying sound 9.04 makes when starting a video/music that's flash ?
[00:57] <mnaines> marcellus: The reason you want to limit activity between computers on a LAN is because 90% of security breaches come from inside the network
[00:58] <musikgoat> mib_mib: then on the server, netstat -nl  and check that the server is listening on 80
[00:58] <physic> when i use sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.6  in terminal it will tell me couldn't find package libssl0.9.6
[00:58] <heater_> I have a power management problem in Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty. Settings are set to NEVER put monitor nor computer to sleep, but monitor sleeps after 10 min. Any ideas?
[00:58] <mnaines> physic: Try taking off the version number...apt-get should install the most recent stable version by default
[00:58] <eminor> physic, this thread is from 2005
[00:59] <{Onyx}> heater_ check bios
[00:59] <marcellus> on my d-link it is called Virtual Server and lists the common services and allows you to enable each i.e. port forwarding
[00:59] <heater_> Onyx: ok onyx i will do that
[00:59] <physic> ok leave it
[00:59] <{Onyx}> I was having a similar problem with my computer locking up when entering sleep mode even though i had sleep mode disabled in ubuntu
[00:59] <physic> how i can download yahoo messenger client?
[01:00] <{Onyx}> physic use pidgin
[01:00] <mib_mib> musikgoat: hmmm.... it has listening on 127.0.0.1:80
[01:00] <{Onyx}> it has support for pretty much all messengers
[01:00] <physic> i have pidgin but my internet not good
[01:00] <musikgoat> mib_mib: but none on 0.0.0.0:80 or :::80 ?
[01:00] <scott_ino> physic, can you be more descriptive
[01:01] <foey> Any decent guides for setting up Samba shares via the terminal?
[01:01] <eminor> btw.. pidgin will be replaced with empathy in next ubuntu release, right?
[01:01] <musikgoat> mib_mib: I'd check your httpd.conf file and make sure its setup correctly
[01:01] <physic> i dont want pidgin i have it
[01:01] <Docteh> foey: the config file has a good example i thougt
[01:01] <scott_ino> eminor, gross i know
[01:01] <physic> i  want yahoo messenger client
[01:01] <musikgoat> eminor: no
[01:01] <musikgoat> eminor: its not ready yet, they put back in pidgin as the default
[01:01] <{Onyx}> that's ok, next install I'm thinking about going with kubuntu because it's all industrial with K's instead of C's
[01:01] <eminor> ah, ok
[01:02] <mib_mib> musikgoat: okay, i actually have a few conf files - apache is listening on 127.0.0.1:80, and nginx is serving static content (and passing other stuff through 127.0.0.1:80) - and nginx is listening on port 80  with my router ip address....
[01:02] <{Onyx}> Kommander always makes me think of Kompressor
[01:02] <O___o> how to install office 2007 in wine?
[01:02] <scott_ino> physic, im sorry, but that's not going to happen. you aren't going to be able to use yahoo messenger client, however pidgin and other messaging clients will work with your yahoo ID
[01:02] <losher> mib_mib: for testing purposes, until you get the client->server case working, I would flush all iptables: /sbin/iptables -F; /sbin/iptables -X; /sbin/iptables -Z
[01:02] <foey> Docteh : Yeh, ill have to go and read through that. I've managed to share a folder via webmin but no one has write permissions for it. Just wondering if that was the best way to go about it or just use the Samba config file.
[01:02] <mib_mib> losher: okay
[01:02] <O___o> do i just install wine then run X12-30307.exe?
[01:02] <musikgoat> mib_mib: i think you have a port conflict then
[01:03] <musikgoat> you shouldn't have two services on the same port
[01:03] <physic> scott_ino,pidgin couldn't open with me
[01:03] <scott_ino> physic, what do you mean "open"
[01:03] <musikgoat> mib_mib: choose one on 80 and move the other to 8080 or 8000 or something
[01:03] <physic> i mean did not open yahoo id
[01:04] <losher> mib_mib: I agree with musikgoat. You can't have two programs listening on the same port....
[01:04] <mnaines> physic: You have to go to www.pidgin.im and update pidgin to get Yahoo to work properly
[01:04] <musikgoat> mnaines: they do not host ubuntu packages,  check the pidgin ppa
[01:04] <musikgoat> physic: ^^
[01:04] <GBGames> If a webcam is said to be "supported out of the box" on Ubuntu, what should happen after I plug it in? How do I use it?
[01:04] <scott_ino> mnaines, what did they change recently
[01:04] <physic> ok
[01:05] <musikgoat> !ppa | physic
[01:05] <scott_ino> GBGames, open up Ekiga to test
[01:05] <glens> I'm trying to set up an SB Audigy under Jaunty, but I never get any sound.  I've followed all of the walkthroughs I've found, and none seem to get me anywhere.  where should I start?
[01:05] <mnaines> musikgoat: What are you talking about?
[01:05] <{Onyx}> yahoo connects fine for me in pidgin
[01:05] <musikgoat> pidgin.im doesn't have ubuntu packages
[01:05] <Docteh> foey: you might be better off just using the config file directly unless webmin causes issues with that
[01:05] <[t0rc]> suggestions for best solution for iPods? (cover support, etc.)
[01:05] <GBGames> scott_ino: I went through it before, but now I see when I open it, there is a webcam icon. And there I am!
[01:05] <GBGames> B-)
[01:05] <GBGames> Thanks!
[01:06] <mnaines> musikgoat: It doesn't need them...Pidgin has a PPA key that is required to update pidgin so that Yahoo can run properly
[01:06] <colemanguy> webmin should work even if you manually config samba, so id use the manual config editing
[01:06] <colemanguy> to learn to do it manualy first
[01:06] <Docteh> foey: are you trying to share a home directory or a different dir?
[01:06] <foey> Docteh : Yeh ill have a play. Thanks.
[01:06] <jonat399> hi
[01:06] <scott_ino> GBGames, no problem you can also use Skype, VLC, Cheese and many others for webcam awesomeness
[01:06] <{Onyx}> i saw a good tutorial on configuring samba
[01:06] <{Onyx}> let me see if i can find it again
[01:06] <glens> I'm trying to set up an SB Audigy under Jaunty, but I never get any sound.  I've followed all of the walkthroughs I've found, and none seem to get me anywhere.  where should I start?
[01:07] <foey> Docteh : I've created a folder within home /home/shared
[01:07] <heater> Onyx: well bios didn't have anything wrong
[01:07] <GBGames> scott_ino: I got a webcam for my girlfriend as well. She'll be on Windows. Any suggestions for software we can use to talk to each other?
[01:07] <twobitsprite> Brasero sits normalizing tracks forever... does anyone else have this problem?
[01:07] <scott_ino> GBGames, yeah honestly I use VOIP a lot and the new Ekiga sound quality is amazing, much better than skype in my opinion (which i use as well)
[01:07] <colemanguy> skype will work
[01:07] <{Onyx}> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-home-fileserver
[01:07] <mnaines> musikgoat: www.pidgin.im just has a Pidgin-specific PPA key on the website.  Copy and paste it into the terminal, then go into the package manager and search for pidgin, select "upgrade" then install the upgrade
[01:07] <scott_ino> GBGames, use skype or Ekiga (which has a windows version as well)
[01:07] <O___o> what is the channel for wine?
[01:07] <{Onyx}> Hmmm, monitor setting?
[01:08] <GBGames> Thanks!
[01:08] <physic> scott_ino, is latest version
[01:08] <molson_> Anyone familiar with ecryptfs?  It keeps unmounting my home directory.
[01:08] <scott_ino> physic, ? what
[01:08] <heater> Onyx: nah, i have the monitor hooked up to both windows and ubuntu, windows doesn't sleep the monitor
[01:08] <IdleOne> O___o: #winehq
[01:08] <scott_ino> O___o, winehq
[01:08] <physic> my pidgin is up to date
[01:08] <eminor> glens, i have an audigy 2 ZS in my second pc and it's working out of the box with ubuntu
[01:08] <O___o> IdleOne, thx
[01:09] <{Onyx}> did you check screen saver settings?
[01:09] <musikgoat> mnaines: nice, they have made it clearer, last time i visited, the site didn't have any real instructions for ubuntu users
[01:09] <eminor> 2late ;/
[01:09] <GBGames> Now I just have to learn about using webcam stuff. It's my first ever.
[01:09] <losher> {Onyx}: you didn't ask, but the best book I *ever* read on learning how to design software (as opposed to just coding) is http://www.amazon.com/Software-Tools-Pascal-Brian-Kernighan/dp/0201103427/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254354955&sr=1-10. Don't mind the fact that it's in Pascal. You can code the examples yourself in C or Java or anything else you want. It's the design that's important...
[01:09] <O___o> anyone here successfully install office 2007 in ubuntu thru wine?
[01:09] <scott_ino> physic, someone else in this chat suggested you need to use a even newer version than what's included in the ubuntu repositories, which means you will have to use the PPA
[01:10] <scott_ino> physic, although another person has said that it works with the latest version, i don't have a yahooID so i can't check for you
[01:10] <twobitsprite> does cdrecord decode mp3?
[01:10] <physic> i dont nkow whats ppa?
[01:10] <musikgoat> physic: http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[01:10] <musikgoat> physic: follow their instructions
[01:10] <{Onyx}> I don't think I've updated pidgin unless it went through an auto update and yahoo works fine on pidgin
[01:11] <physic> ok thanks
[01:11] <{Onyx}> I just added an account, selected protocol yahoo and put in my user+pass
[01:11] <musikgoat> physic: you might also get answers in the #pidgin channel
[01:11] <losher> twobitsprite: no. You need .wav files for cdrecord. You can convert .mp3 to .wav using lame. It might be easier to just use k3b...
[01:11] <physic> my internet not good
[01:12] <heater> {Onyx}: im an idiot.....i cannot believe i over looked that
[01:12] <mib_mib> rather - one is listening on 127.0.0.1:80, and the second is listening on the external port <externalip>:80
[01:12] <{Onyx}> Na, we all overlook stuff
[01:12] <{Onyx}> That's the biggest problem I have with experienced computer users that call in for support. They KNOW it is a hardware problem because they checked everything and resist anything I tell them to try :)
[01:12] <heater> {Onyx}: i appreciate your help, thank you
[01:12] <twobitsprite> losher: I'd rather install something that doesn't require KDE libs... The default Gnome app doesn't work
[01:13] <rensomsne> I'm having a hard time installing ubuntu 9.04 from a flash drive onto a computer currently running windows xp. When I boot, I get the message "Gave up waiting for root device". Would anyone have any idea what to do?
[01:13] <musikgoat> mib_mib: if you have a service bound to that external port:80, then you cannot serve apache on that port and expect it to be reachable by anything other than the server itself
[01:13] <AutoMatriX> hi folks
[01:13] <heater> {Onyx}: hahaha lol
[01:13] <losher> mib_mib: that might explain why http://localhost works, but http://192.168.1.100 doesn't. They were talking to different apps...
[01:13] <AutoMatriX> dos somebody kow the address of the aircrack-ng irc chan ?
[01:13] <[t0rc]> any suggestions for best solution for iPods? (cover support, etc.)
[01:14] <{Onyx}> My suggestion for iPods is to get a regular mp3 player
[01:14] <heater> hahaha lol
[01:14] <{Onyx}> I can't stand the damn things with having to sync through iTunes
[01:14] <twobitsprite> {Onyx}: hear, hear
[01:14] <{Onyx}> Regular mp3 player you just drag and drop the files onto the mp3 player.
[01:14] <scott_ino> [t0rc], banshee is probably best
[01:14] <musikgoat> AutoMatriX: umm, isn't it openexploit or something?
[01:14] <colemanguy> yup exaclty
[01:14] <colemanguy> itunes sucks
[01:15] <scott_ino> {Onyx}, hopefully the new banshee development going on now will fix that ;-)
[01:15] <twobitsprite> I'm a huge fan of my Sony Walkman mp3 player
[01:15] <musikgoat> AutoMatriX: #remote-exploit
[01:15] <AutoMatriX> musikgoat, might be, going to check that, did not want to download the whole server list
[01:15] <scott_ino> [t0rc], what kind of ipod
[01:15] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I can sync mine with Rythmbox
[01:15] <AutoMatriX> tx so much musikgoat
[01:15] <musikgoat> AutoMatriX: at least they might be able to help, its backtrack's channel
[01:15] <{Onyx}> I was talking about the whole syncing in the first place.
[01:15] <losher> twobitsprite: no problem. Just make a directory and use lame --decode to expand the mp3s into wavs. Then you can do cdrecord -v -tao speed=20 dev=/dev/cdrom -eject -pad driveropts=burnfree -audio *.wav
[01:15] <{Onyx}> I prefer just being able to drag my crap over.
[01:16] <twobitsprite> losher: I suppose that works... I would have liked another GUI to try... but that works for now, thanks
[01:16] <scott_ino> {Onyx}, of course... the entire concept of "sync" is retarded in my opinion
[01:16] <scott_ino> there's just gotta be a better way
[01:16] <{Onyx}> Hey heater, speaking of overlooking things. First time I booted backtrack I couldn't get my net connection to work. I tried everything, except sudo ifconfig eth0 up.
[01:16] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: there is... it's called USB mass storage... drag and drop music files
[01:17] <rensomsne> anyone? I'm trying to initiate an open source-revolution in my NGO, and it's going to look really stupid if I can't even install ubuntu on a single laptop...
[01:17] <twobitsprite> NGO?
[01:17] <{Onyx}> non gov org
[01:17] <SgtOompa> which NGO?
[01:17] <twobitsprite> a company?
[01:17] <rensomsne> not a company
[01:17] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, what?
[01:17] <rensomsne> a norwegian one
[01:17] <rensomsne> I'm currently in Bolivia
[01:18] <SgtOompa> cool
[01:18] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, what did i ask im confused
[01:18] <losher> twobitsprite: er, there's brasero, and there must be others, depending on your OS version. The GUI burning progs are nearly all buggy for some reason...
[01:18] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: you said "there's got to be a better way [than syncing]"
[01:18] <chiiph> is there any repo for pyqt4.5.4?
[01:18] <{Onyx}> k3b is my fav
[01:18] <twobitsprite> losher: brasero is the one that isn't working for me
[01:19] <twobitsprite> it just sits forever at "normalizing tracks"
[01:19] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, oh lol yeah, but doesn't work on all ipods, itouch, iphone
[01:19] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: ohh, I wasn't talking about ipod/etc... I was talking about real mp3 players
[01:20] <marcellus> Norway is quietly invading Bolivia and will dig fjords all over the place..
[01:20] <{Onyx}> real mp3 players you just drag the file to the mp3 player
[01:20] <twobitsprite> marcellus: mischan?
[01:20] <rensomsne> marcellus: we certainly will
[01:20] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, i know i know i own a Zen, and just do the whol USB thing, however if you asked me how important iphone/itouch linux support was I'd say 10/10
[01:20] <scott_ino> i know of at least 5 people that literally wont switch because of that
[01:21] <marcellus> mischan?
[01:21] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Sadly, it wasn't my choice to get an iPod...Last company I worked for was a publishing company...I routinely was assigned chauffeur duties for the boss' daughter and she nagged me until I got one
[01:21] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: bah...
[01:21] <rensomsne> the question is whether or not ubuntu will help us do it
[01:21] <twobitsprite> marcellus: you said something completely off topic, I thought maybe you typed it in the wrong window
[01:21] <colemanguy> haha
[01:21] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, i mean honestly... it HAS to happen for widespread linux adoption I'd say it's equally as important nowadays as... .doc support in open office
[01:22] <losher> twobitsprite: er, try gnomebaker, xcdroast, I'm sure there are others. They're pretty much all dreadful. k3b is the best of a bad bunch...
[01:22] <{Onyx}> I'd say gaming support would be more imprtant
[01:22] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: I'm not really concerned with wide-spread linux adoption... I like it, and if other people don't... that's fine
[01:22] <{Onyx}> If we could get native support for games it would be the pwn.
[01:22] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, I own a linux company
[01:22] <dbbolton> how can i purge all grub2 configs and revert to grub-legacy?
[01:22] <scott_ino> lol so im a little more concerned
[01:22] <DeathFox> there was no program when i installed ubuntu like when i use to install linux to pick programs i want to install with it where is that program within ubuntu
[01:22] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: ohh... then maybe you should develop itunes support
[01:23] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, I don't code, I'
[01:23] <scott_ino> m the hardware guy
[01:23] <scott_ino> me like build things
[01:23] <{Onyx}> deathfox try add/remove programs from apps or synaptic from system
[01:23] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: well, your company then
[01:23] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I do like using iPods over other mp3 players, though, because of the USB thing...I can run USB to my car stereo from the iPod...If I had any other type of mp3 player, I'd have to get a permanently-mounted adapter that connects to the back of the stereo
[01:23] <DeathFox> k
[01:23] <DeathFox> tks
[01:23] <losher> scott_ino: Actually, I'd prefer linux not achieve wide-spread adoption. It will just attract viruses writers etc...
[01:23] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, not really what we do, we specialize in LTSP environments, and other business related open source services
[01:24] <twobitsprite> mnaines: get a better stereo... one that supports USB mass storage
[01:24] <musikgoat> DeathFox: you are looking for Synaptic?
[01:24] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: do your customers need itunes support?
[01:24] <DigitalKiwi> but then people won't look at me funny when they find out I use linux instead of windows or OS X!
[01:24] <{Onyx}> everyone thinks they need itunes support
[01:24] <musikgoat> DeathFox: nvm, i see someone responded
[01:24] <scott_ino> losher, true, things on the virus end would get much worse but nowhere near what windows has been in my opinion
[01:24] <mnaines> twobitsprite: I doubt I can find one for less than 200 USD
[01:24] <twobitsprite> mnaines: how much did your itunes-nazi stereo cost?
[01:24] <{Onyx}> People think they need a lot of crap that they don't.
[01:25] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, yes.. they do, it's pretty important, but it looks like some dev guys from banshee are already well ontop of it, again we don't have the time or resources to aid in software development
[01:25] <mnaines> twobitsprite: The head unit was a Sony system and cost 120 USD
[01:25] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, maybe when i get more money i can contribute ;-)
[01:25] <t-zOmbie> hey guys, having an issue mountin windows shares. I'm using: sudo mount -t vboxsf -o uid=$USER,gid=$USER Music /media/Share1
[01:25] <DigitalKiwi> scott_ino: who is we?
[01:26] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: ohh... well you said itunes support was vital to linux, and linux adoption was vital to your company... sounds to me like your company has a vested interest in linux itunes support... sounds like a good reason to contribute
[01:26] <scott_ino> DigitalKiwi, it's actually just two of us, used to be four, we're a small business based in arlington,VA
[01:26] <DigitalKiwi> ah
[01:26] <mnaines> twobitsprite: It is HD Radio and Satellite Radio ready, front-mount 1-wire USB, rear-mount auxiliary, with AM/FM/CD/USB/Aux functionality
[01:26] <scott_ino> DigitalKiwi, although we've done a few exciting projects recently, particularly with mass linux adoption in low income areas etc..
[01:27] <twobitsprite> mnaines: and you don't think you could have found a stereo with usb support for that much?
[01:27] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, oh absolutely, id even be willing to give my free time however I'm not really sure what I can offer as im not a coder ;-)
[01:27] <twobitsprite> mnaines: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/car-audio/
[01:27] <mnaines> twobitsprite: None of the other brands had head units with that many features for less than 200 USD
[01:28] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, not in "desperate" need of itunes support/iphone support, but it would certainly help quite a bit, and it's a bigger issue than just itunes. It's about hardware development and implementation in general
[01:29] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, if a large percentage of your potential customers happen to have ipods, they're going to want to be able to use them on a machine they own easily ;-)
[01:29] <scott_ino> so yeah that's my story..
[01:29] <{Onyx}> hardware dev isn't really our issue though. The community is great about it when a company opens the drivers, and a lot of times even when they don't.
[01:29] <mnaines> twobitsprite: The problem with all of the ones on that site is none of them are compatible with HD Radio or Satellite Radio tuners
[01:29] <heyho> how to dpkg all packages i dnt know command line
[01:29] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: the reason I make a big deal about this, is so many people want to complain about the lack of this-or-that feature in GNU/Linux distros, but don't realize that most of it is charity-ware... i.e., if you want something, do it yourself
[01:29] <scott_ino> {Onyx}, that's why im not worried about it, because more and more hardware is being available to the public
[01:30] <musikgoat> heyho: what are you trying to accomplish?
[01:30] <{Onyx}> The problem is with companies that won't open their drivers and won't support linux
[01:30] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, absolultely I agree with you, I see myself as part of the "linux solution" not just a user
[01:30] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: excellent... that's great to hear
[01:31] <{Onyx}> I prefer community drivers anyway. I'll never buy another x-fi card after all the issues I've had with this one.
[01:31] <mnaines> scott_ino: I am also interested in getting more support for Linux
[01:31] <{Onyx}> And that's with creative's provided drivers
[01:31] <mnaines> {Onyx}: www.razerzone.com is where I got my soundcard...Razer Barracuda is the one I got
[01:31] <physic> i downloade pidgin 2.6.2 in zip
[01:32] <scott_ino> mnaines, most of us are :-) what's good about all of this is that more and more users are starting to get involved in projects, etc.
[01:32] <physic> how i can install it?
[01:32] <{Onyx}> You happy with the sound quality and microphone/headset support?
[01:32] <musikgoat> physic: you didn't follow instructions
[01:32] <heyho> musikgoat: i need to run dpkg for all packages do you know command
[01:32] <heyho> i forgot it
[01:32] <scott_ino> {Onyx}, i have a sales person using one right now as we speak, over 500 calls and counting on a 14 dollar headset
[01:32] <physic> musikgoat in page told me download pidgin 2.6.2
[01:32] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Stereo microphone, <0.01% THD at 1kHz, true 5.1 channel surround sound, and Razer's proprietary High Definition Digital Audio Interface
[01:33] <physic> musikgoat so i downloADED
[01:33] <scott_ino> {Onyx}, i realize that might not have been directed at me sorry ;-) im getting confused
[01:33] <{Onyx}> sweet, thanks
[01:33] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The HD-DAI uses the same type of connection as DVI-I, but it outputs audio instead of video
[01:34] <musikgoat> physic: hmm, it looks like 2.6.1 is the latest build in the PPA, did someone say that yahoo was fixed in 2.6.2 only?
[01:34] <{Onyx}> I've got an x-fi xtreme music and the mic doesn't work for crap. If I turn the volume down so it isn't blaring out of the speaker/headset then it doesn't work and wine doesn't like it for a mic period
[01:35] <physic> musikgoat no
[01:35] <{Onyx}> Haven't tried with using OSS in wine, which supports my on board sound chip's mic a lot better.
[01:35] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I've had people comment on the quality...They said its just like I'm sitting right next to them and talking to them
[01:35] <musikgoat> physic: have you read this? http://theflamingbanker.blogspot.com/2009/06/some-clarification-on-yahoo-issues.html
[01:36] <maccam94> hi
[01:36] <physic> i will go to pidgin channel
[01:36] <maccam94> wrong window
[01:36] <physic> musikgoat no
[01:36] <{Onyx}> O, you guys are talking headsets.
[01:36] <{Onyx}> I'm talking about sound cards :)
[01:37] <bluebaron_> can someone point me to a site for creating a ubuntu usb bootable flash install from windows?
[01:37] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The Razer Barracuda is great...Made by gamers for gamers...Utilizes 3 dimensional positional audio for a true surround sound experience, the sound card itself has an onboard 500MHz processor with 32MB of RAM for excellent audio processing capabilities...That allows for the best possible sound quality, the use of a stereo microphone, and the lowest total harmonic distortion in the industry
[01:37] <musikgoat> !unetbootin | bluebaron
[01:38] <{Onyx}> NM, looks like they have a headset by the same name.
[01:38] <{Onyx}> Looking at a review of the card now.
[01:38] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Yeah...That's designed to be used with the sound card...
[01:39] <dethaddr> im having an install issue with jaunty, can anyone help?
[01:39] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Let me just add in my own review - The in-game sound from this card will easily trick your mind into thinking you're really there
[01:39] <heater> Here is a question, anyone get blu-ray playback in linux yet?
[01:39] <bluebaron_> musikgoat, ty
[01:39] <losher> mib_mib: so did you resolve your server issue?
[01:39] <DeathFox> can gnome in ubuntu have a clear terminal
[01:39] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The sound quality is so good, its as close to real as you'll ever get
[01:40] <scott_ino> heater, yes you can do it for certain blu-ray disks, however requires quite a bit of effort from what i understand
[01:40] <{Onyx}> How much do they run?
[01:40] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The prices are on the site...I think the headset runs 120USD
[01:40] <{Onyx}> If the video card is all I need to replace on the dead XPS system in my guest room then I may be able to swing it.
[01:40] <heater> scott_ino: hmmm....so on top of that it would prob be much harder to get it to run through XBMC also then?
[01:40] <scott_ino> heater let me find you the page
[01:40] <dethaddr> i made a jaunty usb boot disk, and im using it as im typing in this IRC chat right now, but it doenst have the installl button on the desktop. is there like a sudo i need to run in the term?
[01:41] <heyho> hater: i can burn blueay and play high definition videos i didnt try playing bluray
[01:41] <{Onyx}> nice looking card as well.
[01:41] <heater> scott_ino: alright thanks
[01:41] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The great news is the most recent ALSA drivers in Linux will run the Barracuda just fine
[01:41] <heater> heyho: you can play hd-dvd? or hd rips?
[01:41] <DeathFox> can you have a transparent terminal in gnome
[01:42] <heyho> hater: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[01:42] <Maritim> DeathFox: yes.
[01:42] <DeathFox> how?
[01:42] <{Onyx}> $120 is a bit steep but I'm sure I'd be using the same card for years.
[01:42] <Maritim> DeathFox: gnome-terminal supports transparency.
[01:42] <kansan> how bad is this?  my comp just randomly hung (ubuntu hardy); according to /var/log/messages i see: Sep 29 15:06:22 desktop-igloo kernel: [2234774.575997] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
[01:42] <t-zOmbie> hey guys, having an issue mountin windows shares. I'm using: sudo mount -t vboxsf -o uid=$USER,gid=$USER Music /media/Share1
[01:42] <DeathFox> how do i do it i got my terminal open
[01:42] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I've had this card for a little over a year...No problems at all
[01:42] <Maritim> DeathFox: Edit -> Profile settings -> Background
[01:42] <heater> heyho: yea thanks
[01:43] <heyho> hater: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32o6xmWco6I
[01:43] <t-zOmbie> DeathFox ALT + F2 type gnome-terminal
[01:43] <t-zOmbie> then from there go to the profile settings and change the bg
[01:43] <{Onyx}> I don't game at all so the card should be good enough for great music/movies until it dies.
[01:43] <{Onyx}> Don't think I've ever had a sound card die on me either.
[01:43] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Its great for movies and music, especially when coupled with the Barracuda headset
[01:43] <_AaLinux> I'm trying to read line from file . Where is the error ? http://pastebin.com/m4af665df
[01:43] <Maritim> {Onyx}: the sound card has never been worth thinking about for gaming :P
[01:44] <Maritim> whatever's on your mobo gets the job done
[01:44] <losher> kansan: it's a read error on your cdrom. Could be just a bad CD/DVD disk, or it could be the drive is starting to go bad. The only way to know for sure is try another disk...
[01:44] <mnaines> Maritim: The onboard sound cards have poor sound quality compared to third-party sound cards
[01:44] <kansan> losher, how do you know its not a hardd rive read error
[01:45] <losher> _AaLinux: line 6 remove the $ sign
[01:45] <dethaddr> i made a jaunty usb boot disk, and im using it as im typing in this IRC chat right now, but it doenst have the installl button on the desktop. is there like a sudo i need to run in the term?
[01:45] <lulela> hi
[01:45] <losher> kansan: because it says dev sr0, which is the cdrom...
[01:45] <musikgoat> dethaddr: you could try running ubiquity
[01:45] <RPG_Master> awhile back i did something which enabled thumbnails for open document files. Would anyone here know how to turn this off?
[01:45] <Bluey> dethaddr install button for what?
[01:46] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The beauty of the Barracuda headset is its a true 5.1 channel headset...Three speakers and a subwoofer in each earcup
[01:46] <dethaddr> bluey for ubuntu
[01:46]  * {Onyx} drools
[01:46] <musikgoat> dethaddr: although i don't know if ubiquity needs to run as root or what
[01:46] <kansan> losher, how should i figure out why it froze then
[01:46] <_AaLinux> losher: Yes, it would be echo $line
[01:46] <Bluey> dethaddr -- it sounds like you want to install ubuntu on top of ubuntu
[01:46] <dethaddr> no, there is no OS on the pc
[01:46] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The other beauty of it is the stereo microphone and the sound card's 3D Positional Audio processing
[01:47] <losher> _AaLinux: that'll do it...
[01:47] <{Onyx}> deathaddr is booting from a usb and wanting to install from it
[01:47] <dethaddr> i want to install it
[01:47] <Keiya> Hello! Can anyone help me out? Evolution crashes when I authenticate with an exchange server using the MAPI plugin. (2.26.1-0ubuntu2 on Ubuntu 9.04 (amd64))
[01:47] <Bluey> dethaddr private message okay?
[01:47] <DeathFox> does the new ubuntu have my drivers for my geforce 8800 card already or should i install them
[01:47] <DeathFox> i mean i see a display
[01:47] <dethaddr> surre
[01:47] <musikgoat> !ubiquity | dethaddr
[01:47] <Keiya> (The exchange server is running 2007, so the OWA-based plugin doesn't work)
[01:47] <musikgoat> !info ubiquity | dethaddr
[01:47] <mnaines> DeathFox: I have the 8800GTS, and you have to go to System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[01:47] <losher> kansan: read errors may freeze your machine, it's a bug but not an important one, and secondary to the cdrom issue....
[01:47] <sidney> easy question for ya
[01:48] <losher> scott_ino: what $14 headset were you talking about above? I didn't see a model number...
[01:49]  * cyphase finally feels l33t. he just encountered his first problem where removing pulseaudio helped
[01:50] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I am still a newbie to Linux, but I eventually want to help contribute to the Linux community
[01:50] <sidney> i'm using Ubuntu in the default gnome when i updated the first 6 were kde updates. is there really any reason to install these?
[01:50] <cyphase> sidney: you probably installed a kde app
[01:50] <Keiya> Yes. A lot of useful apps use the KDE libraries, and apps 'native' to either run just fine on both.
[01:51] <mnaines> Keiya: Is it true Gnome and KDE apps are cross-compatible with either desktop?
[01:52] <MlRegister> hi
[01:52] <Keiya> mnaines: Yep!
[01:52] <{Onyx}> mnaines pretty much.
[01:52] <MlRegister> can someone help me with something?
[01:52] <{Onyx}> you'll have to install qt and stuff but any kde app you install will install that.
[01:52] <sidney> cyphase: does the add remove install kde apps under gnome?
[01:52] <mnaines> {Onyx}: What are some ways a newbie like myself can contribute to the Linux community?
[01:52] <Keiya> There's the occasionall little glitch, but not any worse than with a KDE app on KDE or a Gnome app on Gnome on a bad day :P
[01:53] <losher> !burn | twobitsprite just found this list
[01:53] <{Onyx}> Hell if I know, I'm a newbie myself compared to most people :)
[01:53] <MlRegister> can someone maybe answer a quick question for me?
[01:53] <{Onyx}> I'm just really good at searching for info I need.
[01:53] <DigitalKiwi> MlRegister: we can't read your mind
[01:53] <MlRegister> o sorry
[01:53] <distrohopper> mnaines: learn and help people who come in here.. stay here and learn from other people's questions
[01:53] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Yeah...I barely even know command line...Before I started using Linux, I was a Windows fanboy
[01:53] <MlRegister> ok so i just put Ubuntu 9.04 on a 320gb hdd and it says i only have 12 gigs free?
[01:54] <{Onyx}> Command line's no problem for me, got familiar with it downloading porn from IRC when I was a kid :)
[01:54] <distrohopper> lol {Onyx}
[01:54] <sidney> If ubuntu would run my tv card i would never boot windows purposely
[01:54] <mnaines> I doubt I'd ever be able to wean myself off the GUI because of all the years I've been a Windows sheep
[01:54] <{Onyx}> Then from there I went through my bad computer nerd phase and got familiar with the command line from other people's systems.
[01:54] <fccf> m
[01:54] <Keiya> Did you use the entire hard drive, or did you use a partition on it, MlRegister?
[01:54] <distrohopper> mnaines: once you learn the power of the command line.. we may never get you away from it ;)
[01:54] <losher> MlRegister: please open a terminal and run 'sudo fdisk -l' and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:54] <{Onyx}> I see no reason to ween yourself off a gui
[01:54] <MlRegister> i used the entire drive
[01:54] <Marco> hi
[01:54] <MlRegister> ok
[01:54] <{Onyx}> For some things GUI is great and for some things command line is better.
[01:55] <DigitalKiwi> mnaines: I used windows for like 15 years and now CLI is what i prefer, you can do it too!
[01:55] <Keiya> mnaines: The lovely bit is you don't have to - I use both, and they play together nicely :J
[01:55] <mnaines> distrohopper: Yeah...The problem is going to be teaching me CLI...I'm too dependent on the GUI right now
[01:55] <MlRegister> incoming.... Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
[01:55] <MlRegister> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
[01:55] <MlRegister> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[01:55] <MlRegister> Disk identifier: 0x2a4db61c
[01:55] <MlRegister>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:55] <FloodBot1> MlRegister: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:55] <MlRegister> /dev/sda1               1       38913   312566780    7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:55] <losher> {Onyx}: the only reason to learn CLI is that the gui stuff tends to be much buggier. I'm not sure what that is...
[01:55] <distrohopper> I've been using linux full time for about a year now, and I am still learning
[01:55] <mib_mib> losher: not yet, still working on it
[01:55] <{Onyx}> the most important command lines are command --help and man command
[01:55] <mnaines> distrohopper: I've only been using Ubuntu since June
[01:55] <DigitalKiwi> !paste | MlRegister
[01:55] <losher> {Onyx}: what -> why
[01:56] <{Onyx}> command --help explains the commands and man gives even more info
[01:56] <sidney> is the gui what makes windows more open to attack?
[01:56] <Keiya> sidney: Nah.
[01:56] <distrohopper> or 'man <command>' is another good learnign resource
[01:56] <{Onyx}> another important command is man why did you leave your wife? always good for a laugh.
[01:57] <mnaines> sidney: No...It is because of Windows' user friendliness and the popularity
[01:57] <losher> distrohopper: I've been using unix/linux since 1974 and I'm still learning...
[01:57] <DigitalKiwi> alias woman='man'
[01:57] <distrohopper> losher: and I thought I was old ;)
[01:57] <{Onyx}> Windows is only user friendly until it breaks, which is often.
[01:57] <mnaines> Pretty much everything on Windows is automated these days...That's where the security holes come from
[01:57] <Keiya> Well, to a degree, bu just because it's code. Really, what makes Windows vulnerable is that it was designed as a single-user system to be used by people who knew 'everything'.
[01:57] <MlRegister> Losher: http://paste.ubuntu.com/282583/
[01:57] <Sonorous> Anyone around that can help with a sound issue on 9.04 with an asus p5k deluxe mobo?
[01:57] <losher> distrohopper: nah, I'm ancient...
[01:57] <Keiya> And then it became popular.
[01:58] <mnaines> Keiya: Windows was designed for the computer illiterate...That's the main reason its such a big security risk
[01:58] <sidney> mnaines: ok understand
[01:58] <{Onyx}> First time I used linux was when like 1985
[01:58] <MlRegister> im totally new to linux :P
[01:58] <scott_ino> {Onyx}, i suddenly feel very young ;-)
[01:58] <Keiya> So you have an architecture that's designed for power over security, and it's ubiqtuous or however it's spelled.
[01:58]  * mnaines was only 2 years old in 1985
[01:58]  * Keiya was -5 years old in 1985
[01:59] <DigitalKiwi> mnaines: isn't ubuntu targeted at computer illiterate? :)
[01:59] <losher> MlRegister: on disk /dev/sda, I see an windows partition about 312GB in size. That's where all the space is. I don't see any linux partitions. Did you do a wubi install by any chance?
[01:59] <{Onyx}> Oops, meant 1995
[01:59] <{Onyx}> I was only 4 :)
[01:59] <{Onyx}> in 1985
[01:59] <sidney> Keiya: now i feel very old
[01:59] <chalcedony> DigitalKiwi, be polite
[01:59] <DigitalKiwi> i thought that was its big gimmick, linux for human beings, etc
[01:59] <Keiya> DigitalKiwi: Not for the illiterate, no...
[01:59] <mnaines> DigitalKiwi: Ubuntu is easy to use, but its not that easy...There are still some things on Ubuntu that require command line and knowledge of Linux
[01:59] <Keiya> It's targeted at people who can read and write at a sixth-grade level :P\
[01:59] <Sonorous> LIKE!
[01:59] <Sonorous> Anyone around that can help with a sound issue on 9.04 with an asus p5k deluxe mobo?
[01:59] <{Onyx}> linux is user friendly. just a little more picky about who it makes friends with.
[01:59] <scott_ino> DigitalKiwi, i think they meant like.. the open source philosophy, not supid people
[02:00] <scott_ino> ;-)
[02:00] <losher> scott_ino: what $14 headset were you talking about earlier? I didn't see a model number...
[02:00] <scott_ino> ummm losher let me check
[02:00] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Linux doesn't like making friends, though...Windows boxes will be friends with anyone and anything...Linux boxes are like shy people
[02:01] <Sonorous> my rule of thumb is, if you are not an idiot, windows can be ok.
[02:01] <rensomsne> shy people don't like making friends?
[02:01] <{Onyx}> I have to say one thing about linux. If you're willing to look for help it is a lot easier to find.
[02:01] <rensomsne> shy people just need a little bit of encouragement
[02:01] <sternohead> can anyone help with loading ubuntu on a pc
[02:01] <mnaines> {Onyx}: My rule of thumb is "Any geek worth his salt would use Linux over Windows any day"
[02:01] <sidney> will ubuntu alow a user account without a password?
[02:02] <{Onyx}> Any time I have a problem with Windows that I can't figure out I have to dig through 18 pages of me too!'s
[02:02] <Keiya> sternohead: Sure! Do you have a CD ready, or do you need to burn it? yet.
[02:02] <{Onyx}> sidney: no
[02:02] <sidney> allow
[02:02] <Beardbar_> im dealing with a malware issue on my website, is there a way to search all files for an iframe after using sed to remove it to see if there are any iframe tags left in any of the files recursivly?
[02:02] <mnaines> sidney: None of the Linux distros will do that
[02:02] <sternohead> i have a cd
[02:02] <Keiya> sidney: All accounts /must/ have a password... but Ubuntu /does/ allow autologin
[02:02] <_AaLinux> losher: I want to stop after printing 0, why is it printing negative numbers?http://pastebin.com/m7f12dc01
[02:02] <distrohopper> sidney: you can set up ubuntu to automatically log you in, but you need a password for things like sudo
[02:02] <losher> sidney: it can be done, but it's not recommended...
[02:02] <chalcedony> Beardbar_, grep
[02:02] <Sonorous> STOP!
[02:02] <Sonorous> hammer time.
[02:02] <DigitalKiwi> chalcedony: i was being polite, if i meant to be rude instead of computer illiterate I would have said stupid people, the nice thing about windows is that anyone can figure out how to use it in a very short amount of time for what most people use stuff for...linux takes a bit longer
[02:02] <Sonorous> so about this audio issue
[02:03] <Sonorous> that i need some help with
[02:03] <mnaines> Keiya: But even with autologin, its not like Windows because you still don't get root privileges by default
[02:03] <Keiya> mnaines: You don't on Vista or 7 either.
[02:03] <chalcedony> DigitalKiwi, it didn't seem very tactful
[02:03] <Sonorous> you can even send me a pm so you can still talk about windows in a linux chan, i won't mind
[02:03] <Keiya> Well, you do, you just have to click through annoying dialogs
[02:03] <_AaLinux>  I want to stop after printing 0, why is it printing negative numbers?http://pastebin.com/m7f12dc01
[02:04] <mnaines> Keiya: Actually, the only thing that Windows Vista and Windows 7 do is pop up endless dialogs saying "Are you sure you want to do this?"  "Are you sure you're sure?"
[02:04] <distrohopper> i'll trust a password over just clickin OK any day
[02:04] <{Onyx}> Yeah, but linux has things set up better so even if you do get a "virus" all it can do is trash your home folder.
[02:04] <{Onyx}> Windows any user can infect the whole system unless it is a guest account.
[02:04] <Keiya> (Yes! It only took until 2007 for Microsoft to implement a half-assed sudo!)
[02:04] <Sonorous> mnaines, you have not used windows 7 obviously
[02:04] <Marco> hola
[02:04] <mnaines> {Onyx}: And I like Linux because even if you get a virus, you can just rewrite the darn thing and send it right back to the attacker
[02:04] <Rubinioo> lol my harddisk sounds like a diesel engine :D
[02:04] <losher> _AaLinux: I added sleep 1 to the loop and executed it with sh -x. The test is incorrect. If you read the man page, you
[02:04] <Sonorous> there is this neeto option that you can turn off, called the UAC.
[02:05] <{Onyx}> rubinioo time for a new hdd :)
[02:05] <musikgoat> Sonorous: I have, and i haven't been prompted for a password for anything
[02:05] <Rubinioo> yeah :D
[02:05]  * Sonorous fails to see your point
[02:05] <{Onyx}> Yeah, but you turn off UAC and you'll be running around in SU
[02:05] <DigitalKiwi> mnaines: i wrote a program to paste text to pastebin sites, it has a --vista option
[02:05] <DigitalKiwi>     -V, --vista                     Asks a random number of times for confirmation in amusing ways
[02:05] <{Onyx}> Besides, most idiots don't pay attention to what is asking for permission to run and just click ok.
[02:05] <DigitalKiwi> it is its best feature
[02:05] <omeddragon> Linksys / Cisco Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter (WUSB54GC) does this work on ubuntu
[02:05] <musikgoat> Sonorous: eh, its offtopic anyways...
[02:06] <Sonorous> k
[02:06] <sternohead> Keiya i have the cd and it freezes up when i get to putting in where i live at  i tried in safe graphics mode and it didn't help
[02:06] <MlRegister> losher: hey ive got three harddrives in my computer, a 320gb with vista, a clean 80gb, and a new 320 with ubuntu on it "supposedly"
[02:06] <slayton> does anybody know how I would go about diagnosing slow copy speeds? I have two sata drives and when I try to copy big files >500mb from one drive to another I get really slow copy speeds like 5mb/sec
[02:06] <musikgoat> !ubuntuhcl | omeddragon
[02:06] <mnaines> DigitalKiwi: Yeah...There are a lot of benefits to Linux over Windows...I like the higher integrated security and the fact I don't need an antivirus
[02:06] <Sonorous> so back to my tricky asus p5k with no sound on ubuntu
[02:06] <Sonorous> anyone?
[02:06] <musikgoat> omeddragon: check out http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[02:06] <Sonorous> not even a nibble?
[02:07] <DigitalKiwi> mnaines: http://pasteit.ghost1227.com/index.php/view/71602464
[02:07] <DigitalKiwi> giggle
[02:07] <Keiya> sternohead: Odd...
[02:07] <cegopaiva> hi everybody
[02:07] <Sonorous> OHAI
[02:07] <cegopaiva> good night
[02:07] <Keiya> sternohead: It's always just worked for me. You are booting from the CD, right? :J
[02:07] <Sonorous> wait huh>
[02:08] <sternohead> yes
[02:08] <cegopaiva> my english is poor... i'm sorry
[02:08] <mnaines> DigitalKiwi: What is that for?
[02:08] <mnaines> DigitalKiwi: Funny, yes, but what was its intended purpose?
[02:08] <Sonorous> i see what you meant now cegopaiva
[02:08] <DigitalKiwi> curlpaste, pastebin uploader I wrote that uses lua and curl
[02:08] <huston> uhm. anyone here know if ubuntu is capable of utilizing all 4 Gigs of my ram and my 64 bit proccessor?
[02:08] <igsen> I've been trying to view video streaming but firefox keeps asking for installation of microsoft silverlight---uninstallable on jaunty. Any alternatives for this?
[02:09] <slayton> huston, if you install the 64 bit version of ubuntu then yes
[02:09] <cegopaiva> i wold like learn many things here
[02:09] <DigitalKiwi> it's actually a really cool little program =D
[02:09] <MlRegister> losher, u said there wasnt a linux partition?
[02:09] <mnaines> huston: I use 64-bit Ubuntu and I have a 64-bit Intel Core2 Quad with 4GB of RAM...Ubuntu doesn't even put a dent in my machine
[02:09] <Orfeous> ive got some problems with my ubuntu karmic computer.. i upgraded all packages yesterday and now my computer boots into some kind of single user mode and logs in as root as default.. what can i do about it? it also seems that many services are not started.
[02:09] <DeathFox> how do i change the login screen background image
[02:09] <{Onyx}> huston, if you're using 64bit ubuntu then yes.
[02:09] <slayton> Orfeous, this isn't the place for Karmic support
[02:09] <slayton> Orfeous, try ubuntu+1
[02:09] <mnaines> huston: I can run Ubuntu 64-bit full steam and never once notice a change in performance
[02:09] <Orfeous> ok, sorry :)
[02:10] <Shawn-> What's that one state that's like in Canada
[02:10] <DigitalKiwi> does ubuntu have a PAE kernel available?
[02:10] <losher> MlRegister: that's how it looks. Linux partitions would say Linux in the output. How did you install linux?
[02:10] <sternohead> thanks keiya
[02:10] <huston> i'm running windopwsd right now i know how to install ubuntu to dual boot. do i need a specific ionstall disc though?
[02:10] <DeathFox> is there a way to change the image on the login screen
[02:10] <Danbo19> I'm having problems with sound. I just installed Jaunty on my desktop and until today, sound worked fine. But yesterday I unplugged my speakers to plug into a laptop, and now today my desktop has no sound.
[02:11] <MlRegister> Losher: i was booted into vista when i did it, i installed it to a newly formatted 320gb SATA hdd that i just installed in my pc today.
[02:11] <losher> _AaLinux: was that enough for you to figure it out?
[02:11] <mnaines> {Onyx}: What are some good apps for learning how to write code for the Linux kernel?
[02:11] <_AaLinux> losher: I'm testing , editing
[02:11] <Keiya> My the way, at the earlier malware discussion, reminds me of a joke from the GNU humor archive: http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/evilmalware.html
[02:12] <Keiya> (I'm sure most of you have seen it, but it's good for a laugh anyway.)
[02:12] <DigitalKiwi> mnaines: http://pasteit.ghost1227.com/index.php/view/37382892
[02:12] <DeathFox> how do i change the login image on gnome
[02:12] <sidney> DeathFox:  system -login i think
[02:12] <MlRegister> losher did u see that last response from me?
[02:12] <losher> MlRegister: normally, one boots the ubuntu livecd and installs from it. I think you did a *wubi* install, which means you installed ubuntu as a windows application. I don't know much about wubi, sorry...
[02:13] <MlRegister> #losher ok ill reinstall no biggie, havent really done anything except update it so far
[02:14] <mnaines> DigitalKiwi: I got a question...Are having the Linux kernel firewall in restrictive mode, my computers on a different subnet, and the router on that subnet locked down tight good for security?
[02:14] <losher> MlRegister: ok, be careful to make sure you install to the correct disk, or you'll end up overwriting your windows install....
[02:14] <{Onyx}> Speaking of Windows insecurity, wasn't the Windows box the last one to go down during the last defcon?
[02:14] <{Onyx}> The Mac being first.
[02:14] <DigitalKiwi> losher: he's gone
[02:14] <mnaines> {Onyx}: That was Linux...The last Defcon, the Mac box went down in 10 minutes, the Windows Vista Service Pack 1 box took 2 days, but they didn't want to write the exploit code for Linux
[02:14] <losher> DigitalKiwi: scary....
[02:15] <_AaLinux> losher:  "$var" -gt 0  , it works , but why doesn't it work? "$var" > 0  , isn't that same?
[02:15] <{Onyx}> I should go to the next defcon.
[02:16] <Danbo19> can anybody help with a sound problem?
[02:16] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I want to learn hacking, too...And by Hacking I mean learning what the exploits are and how to fix them
[02:17] <{Onyx}> I'm more interested in not being the smartest person in the room.
[02:17] <{Onyx}> Would be a nice change!
[02:17] <Biovore> learn C/C++ and the gnu debugger..
[02:17] <DigitalKiwi> and bash
[02:17] <dethaddr> i made a jaunty usb boot disk, and im using it as im typing in this IRC chat right now, but it doenst have the installl button on the desktop. is there like a sudo i need to run in the term?
[02:17] <laclasse> learn ASM.
[02:17] <Rubinioo> yeah and I want beer
[02:17] <DigitalKiwi> dethaddr: we can't read your mind
[02:17] <DigitalKiwi> err
[02:18] <DigitalKiwi> disregard that
[02:18] <DigitalKiwi> Danbo19: ^
[02:18] <losher> _AaLinux: because it's shorthand for calling the "test" command. See 'man test'. The syntax is old and clunky. See 'man bash' under compound commands and arithmetic expressions for better syntax...
[02:18] <dethaddr> im not asking you to read my mind
[02:18] <Danbo19> sorry, posted above: (08:10:44 PM) Danbo19: I'm having problems with sound. I just installed Jaunty on my desktop and until today, sound worked fine. But yesterday I unplugged my speakers to plug into a laptop, and now today my desktop has no sound.
[02:18] <teng> please let me know better place to chat!
[02:18] <UbuntuPoop> how do I install Adobe Flash Player for Ubuntu 9.04?
[02:19] <{Onyx}> Ubuntupoop, manually install it from adobe's web site.
[02:19] <n8bounds> dethaddr, the command is ubiquity, which you may be able to sudo. it should also be in the system menu.
[02:19] <UbuntuPoop> i dont know howplayer/
[02:19] <{Onyx}> Autoinstall from firefox doesn't seem to work.
[02:19] <laclasse> UbuntuPoop, Applications-> add/remove -> search 'Flash' -> first result -> install
[02:19] <n8bounds> dethaddr, if there are no icons on the desktop, maybe nautilus crashed, try running that too
[02:19] <Biovore> !flash
[02:19] <losher> teng: for general chat, #ubuntu-offtopic. For technical chat, depends what you want to chat about
[02:20] <seidos> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer
[02:20] <dethaddr> just hit f2 an hit nautilis?
[02:20] <mnaines> UbuntuPoop: Go to Synaptic, search for Flash, then scroll down until you find the Adobe Flash Player Plugin
[02:20] <n8bounds> dethaddr, yeah, that might help. or sudo ubiquity
[02:20] <Rubinioo> I dont like flash at all... screws up my system
[02:20] <d0wn> Hi, I tried installing a package, but I get this: http://pastebin.com/d3a9e355d and now any time I try to install another package, I get told to do "apt-get -f install", but I only get more errors
[02:20] <{Onyx}> Speaking of flash, anyone figured out how to get rid of that annoying sound everytime a flash app loads.
[02:20] <seidos> nope, that didn't work
[02:21] <seidos> d'oh! thought that was right
[02:21] <kb9tui> good evening all
[02:21] <dethaddr> nothing happend with f2/nautilus
[02:21] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Doesn't make a sound for me when a flash app loads
[02:21] <{Onyx}> Maybe I need to update flash.
[02:21] <ThatGuyOverThere> Hello. Is there any way for me to remove network devices?
[02:21] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Or use the Adobe flash player instead of the other one
[02:21] <n8bounds> dethaddr, can u open an xterm or gnome-terminal ?
[02:21] <{Onyx}> That's what I'm using.
[02:21] <laclasse> d0wn, easy
[02:21] <dethaddr> got it
[02:22] <BumpTop_Prototyp> a
[02:22] <losher> ThatGuyOverThere: you can configure them to be 'down' using ifconfig. But why do you need to?
[02:22] <laclasse> d0wn, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight_0.12.10-2_i386.deb
[02:22] <guest17747> trying to apt-get usb-creator and I get the error "Couldn't find package usb-creator"... any thoughts? I'm on Ubuntu 8.04.
[02:22] <d0wn> laclasse: thanks :] i'll try
[02:22] <BumpTop_Prototyp> a
[02:22] <n8bounds> dethadder, are you familiar with tab completion?
[02:22] <ThatGuyOverThere> Well, I'm using a PS3. Bottom line, if you want to connect to wifi, you have to have the ethernet device disabled.
[02:22] <n8bounds> guest17747, can u do a  sudo apt-get update and try it again?
[02:23] <Danbo19> I'm having problems with sound. I just installed Jaunty on my desktop and until today, sound worked fine. But yesterday I unplugged my speakers to plug into a laptop, and now today my desktop has no sound. The sound guide on the forums seems to only have information for people who haven't gotten sound to work at all.
[02:23] <guest17747> sorry, thats what i meant
[02:23] <mnaines> ThatGuyOverThere: I use wi-fi just fine with the ethernet ports active
[02:23] <ThatGuyOverThere> Well, mine doesn't work.
[02:23] <ThatGuyOverThere> :(
[02:23] <guest17747> I did "sudo apt-get usb-creator"
[02:23] <Syldra> ThatGuyOverThere: just do sudo ifdown eth0 then, you can also remove the ethernet settings in /etc/network if you want to
[02:23] <ThatGuyOverThere> I've tried everything and so this is what I'm gonna try next.
[02:23] <n8bounds> guest17747, do a sudo apt-get install usb-creator
[02:23] <d0wn> laclasse: more errors. http://pastebin.com/d345a4467
[02:23] <mnaines> ThatGuyOverThere: scratch Syldra's command...It is ifconfig eth0 down
[02:23] <guest17747> oh man... duh!  shoot, thanks
[02:23] <DerKlempner> Anybody have any experience with DNSMasq?
[02:24] <losher> ThatGuyOverThere: I've heard weirder things. You want something like 'sudo ifconfig eth0 down' from a terminal. You might be able to do it from network manager instead...
[02:24] <laclasse> d0wn, now do: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:24] <n8bounds> np
[02:24] <BumpTop> what is the name of the Flash Player plugin?
[02:24] <DeathFox> i just downloaded a gnome theme how do i install it
[02:24] <BumpTop> package?
[02:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> Alright.
[02:24] <laclasse> DeathFox, drag and drop in the apparance window
[02:24] <huston> ok so i booted the live cd image on the computer. now if i install ubuntu will it automattically install the 64bit version instead of the 32 bit version?
[02:24] <d0wn> neverind! i fixed it. thanks laclasse
[02:24] <laclasse> d0wn, ;-)
[02:24] <n8bounds> Deathfox, drag and drop the theme onto the the theme changer window (appearances > theme tab)
[02:24] <guest17747> n8bounds: I get the same error message
[02:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> It also says "device not managed" under wireless in the Network Manager.
[02:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> What can I do about that?
[02:24] <Shawn-> huston Theres different disks
[02:24] <guest17747> Couldn't find package usb-creator
[02:24] <d0wn> laclasse: i just looked at which packages needed "configured", and apt-get install'd them
[02:25] <guest17747> sudo apt-get install usb-creator
[02:25] <jedc> huston, you need to use the 64 bit install disk
[02:25] <n8bounds> guest17747, do this command: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude install usb-creator
[02:25] <laclasse> d0wn, right, still ... issue the dpkg --configure -a, it will set all packages needing to be configures
[02:25] <laclasse> configured*
[02:25] <BumpTop> where is the flash plugin on synaptic package manager?
[02:25] <mnaines> ThatGuyOverThere: I don't need to bring my eth0 ports offline when I use the wifi...As long as I only have one port in use at any time, there aren't any problems
[02:25] <BumpTop> what is the name
[02:25] <d0wn> laclasse: okay :] thanks
[02:25] <laclasse> d0wn, np
[02:26] <ThatGuyOverThere> I did some searching around and found "sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed". Will that do it?
[02:26] <mnaines> BumpTop: It should say "Adobe Flash Plugin Installer" in the description
[02:26] <guest17747> Seems to have worked
[02:26] <n8bounds> bumptop, the easiest thing to do is install the package "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[02:26] <guest17747> n8bounds:  thanks!
[02:26] <n8bounds> good, np
[02:26] <guest17747> Whats the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[02:26] <Livingroom> hey guys how can i look through the contents of two directories that contain similarly-named files and determine based on file size which ones are not duplicates?
[02:27] <n8bounds> guest17747, its very little, aptitude is just newer and a bit better about cleaning up after itself
[02:27] <BumpTop> getting flash player on ubuntu seems like an impossible mission.
[02:27] <losher> guest17747: slight differences in functionality. Use whichever you prefer. You can switch between them until you decide...
[02:27] <guest17747> hmm... ok, thanks guys... still a noob. Obviously
[02:27] <{Onyx}> I didn't have much trouble getting flash on ubuntu.
[02:27] <seidos> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:28] <seidos> that's what it was
[02:28] <BumpTop> i did
[02:28] <BumpTop> what do i do with it?
[02:28] <ThatGuyOverThere> Anybody...?
[02:28]  * Keiya sighs
[02:28] <{Onyx}> Just a problem with the start of a video or flash ad makes a really annoying sound for a second.
[02:28] <losher> guest17747: this is a good place for noobs...
[02:28] <seidos> !who | BumpTop
[02:28] <Danbo19> I'm having problems with sound. I just installed Jaunty on my desktop and until today, sound worked fine. But yesterday I unplugged my speakers to plug into a laptop, and now today my desktop has no sound. The sound guide on the forums seems to only have information for people who haven't gotten sound to work at all.
[02:28] <dethaddr> I EFFFINNNGG LOVE UBUNTUUUUUUU!
[02:28] <Keiya> Looks like I still have to boot to Windows to use Outlook.
[02:28] <laclasse> BumpTop, just use the Add/Remove program, install reboot, go to youtube
[02:28] <Balsaq> my system monitor hits 100% CPU usage most of the time..an i frying the CPU?
[02:28] <{Onyx}> Keiya, have you tried evolution?
[02:28]  * seidos is an expert n00b
[02:28] <guest17747> Now that I have usb-creator installed, I can't find it in the menus. Is it only accessible via terminal?
[02:29] <laclasse> BumpTop, if this does not work, file a bug
[02:29] <laclasse> BumpTop, btw, it does work ;-)
[02:29] <BumpTop> !tab
[02:29] <Keiya> {Onyx}: Yes. The OWA connector doesn't work with Exchange 2007, and the MAPI connector just crashes it.
[02:29] <huston> ok. one last question. if i install juanty will i have any issues updating through the update manager to the 9.10 release at the end of the month? i've had issues with it in the past when i tried to use it to upgrade to juanty, it broke my installation.
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[02:29] <{Onyx}> How about thunderbird?
[02:29] <ThatGuyOverThere> By the way, if I go ifconfig eth0 down... eth0 will come back up when I restart, won't it?
[02:29] <n8bounds> guest17747, its called usb somethin somethin in the system gnome menu
[02:29] <BumpTop> <tab huston>
[02:29] <Keiya> Doesn't have Exchange support.
[02:29] <BumpTop> <tabhuston
[02:29] <Keiya> Or calendar, for that matter...
[02:30] <Keiya> If I just wanted mail, I'd just use imap :P
[02:30] <BumpTop> !<huston>
[02:30] <laclasse> huston, no, all upgrades are supported, from LTS to LTS and from one version to the next. The updater will see 9.10 avalaible and will offer to upgrade. Prop drivers could be an issue but generally it is smooth
[02:30] <BumpTop> oh
[02:30] <{Onyx}> imap doesn't work very well with evo
[02:30] <dethaddr> hey dude with the usb issue PM i just just just did it
[02:30] <losher> ThatGuyOverThere: yes, the effects of typing ifconfig on a terminal will not last past a reboot...
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[02:30] <guest17747> n8bounds: I checked the System > Pref and System > Admin; but I can't find the app
[02:30] <ThatGuyOverThere> Is there anything I can do about that?
[02:30] <guest17747> usb-creator
[02:30] <ThatGuyOverThere> ...that isn't complicated?
[02:30] <Keiya> {Onyx}: Right, but I want the calendar features anyway, which aren't available over imap, so it's not relevent
[02:30] <BumpTop> aaaaa
[02:31] <huston> ok. thanks guys.
[02:31] <DigitalKiwi> BumpTop: what on earth are you doing
[02:31] <losher> huston: note that 9.04 isn't especially stable, and 9.10 will probably be less so...
[02:31] <Balsaq> system monitor hitting 100% CPU usage almost constantly...am i frying my CPU?
[02:31] <BumpTop> i am trying to do this: huston: oh
[02:31] <{Onyx}> I haven't had any problems with 9.04 beyond a few minor things
[02:31] <BumpTop> !<tab>
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> Balsaq, well, what is causing it to spike?
[02:32] <n8bounds> for me, its in system > administration > USB Startup Disk Creator
[02:32] <seidos> BumpTop: no <>
[02:32] <dethaddr> !guest17747 still got issues?
[02:32] <Balsaq> who lnow just looked and that sumanugun rides ride up there all the time...whew
[02:32] <losher> {Onyx}: stick around: sound, flash, other stuff...
[02:32] <guest17747> dethaddr: yes, can't find the usb-creator app
[02:32] <Keiya> Flash isn't Ubuntu's fault
[02:32] <guest17747> still looking
[02:32] <BumpTop> !<losher> aaa
[02:32] <Keiya> It'd be a lot more stable if Adobe'd give us the source
[02:32] <n8bounds> !usb-creator
[02:32] <BumpTop> i cant do it
[02:33] <Danbo19> Balsaq: do you use Gnome do? sometime do sits there and eats all my CPU for whatever reason and I have to kil it
[02:33] <BumpTop> \
[02:33] <dethaddr> system/admin
[02:33] <{Onyx}> Only sound issue I had was that my onboard sound chip went legacy in 9.04 so I had to edit /etc/modules to load it
[02:33] <seidos> {Onyx}: I had a problem with sound and video, but they weren't serious.  Intrepid was another story.  hosed my heron install
[02:33] <ThatGuyOverThere> Nobody answered me about the wireless device...
[02:33] <ThatGuyOverThere> ...in Network Manager it says "device not managed."
[02:33] <BumpTop> !<
[02:33] <ThatGuyOverThere> What can I do about that?
[02:33] <{Onyx}> I did a brief search and it seems your wireless device sucks for linux support.
[02:33] <ThatGuyOverThere> Mine?
[02:33] <Balsaq> Danbo19: dunno have ubunto 904 newbie here
[02:33] <ajwo> is there a package for a jdbc driver for SQLite?
[02:33] <seidos> {Onyx}: oh yeah, and wireless, switched from ndiswrapper to ath5k.  it really depends on your hardware.
[02:34] <ThatGuyOverThere> Never mind.
[02:34] <ThatGuyOverThere> So...?
[02:34] <Balsaq> if iride at 100 percent does it cook the CPU
[02:34] <{Onyx}> Yeah dude, yours
[02:34] <Livingroom> ok guys: new problem. atheros wifi on ubuntu intrepid. goes "silent" and refuses to "wake up" after maybe 5-10 seconds. have to restart wireless to get it to work again. if i tell a shell to ping <ip address> it will keep the connection alive. suggestions?
[02:34] <ThatGuyOverThere> Oh. Well, yeah, I already know that.
[02:34] <Danbo19> Gnome do is just a nifty little program launcher, you have to install it yourself though so you'd know
[02:34] <Keiya> But yeah.
[02:35] <Keiya> Evolution doesn't work and OWA is just /painful/
[02:35] <huston> to any ubuntu devs that may be on: thanks for the great OS.
[02:35] <AstroEl> :)\
[02:35] <Keiya> (It's designed to only work on IE. Of course.)
[02:35] <Balsaq> Danbo19: dont recall installing anything buy 9.04, the updates and flash
[02:35] <AstroEl> three cheers for Ubuntu
[02:35] <ThatGuyOverThere> But just pretending it doesn't... Is there anyway to get the "device not managed" problem resolved?
[02:35] <BumpTop> :-)
[02:35] <{Onyx}> I can't wait to get my new system up and running so I can see just how pretty I can make gnome.
[02:35] <seidos> boooo to OWA
[02:35] <Keiya> seidos: Well, it's OWA or boot to windows. :P
[02:35] <{Onyx}> My current rig isn't good enough for anything beyond gtk themes
[02:36] <Balsaq> Danbo19: unless it came in with ubuntu 9.04...
[02:36] <seidos> Keiya: virtual box?  :/
[02:36] <john> ANonnyMoose
[02:36] <accol> hey guys whats the command to connect to wireless via the terminal?
[02:36] <Keiya> seidos: I don't have a spair license, or even real windows disks >_>
[02:36] <Balsaq> Danbo19: i have heard ubuntu is gnome
[02:37] <BumpTop> how do you do this:
[02:37] <BumpTop> Nick: text text text text text text text text
[02:37] <seidos> !tab | BumpTop
[02:37] <seidos> BumpTop: tab?
[02:37] <seidos> BumpTop: tab is above the caps lock key usually
[02:37] <BumpTop> !tab|seidos a
[02:38] <ThatGuyOverThere> Ugh... I'm leaving. I'll try asking later.
[02:38] <BumpTop> !tab | ubottu aaa
[02:38] <accol> hey guys whats the command to connect to wireless via the terminal?
[02:38] <seidos> Keiya: me neither, but I don't have a need to use OWA currently
[02:38] <Omlette> Does anyone know why the hald process would suddenly start eating all my memory and CPU cycles?
[02:38] <musikgoat> accol: man iwconfig
[02:39] <rensomsne> BumpTop: start typing the first couple of letters of the nick, then press the tab key. It will autocomplete the nick.
[02:39] <rensomsne> it's the one with the arrows on it, above caps lock.
[02:40] <Balsaq> Danbo19: just looked at system, have 6 gnome process; running but the appear to be sleeping?
[02:40] <kam00zy> can anybody tell me how to install minefield?
[02:40] <ajwo> is there a package for a jdbc driver for SQLite?
[02:40] <kam00zy> from a tar.bz2
[02:40] <rigodeni> hey guys, whats the best/easiest way to get flash working correctly on the Chromium Browser? im on Ubuntu 9.04 using version 4.0.219
[02:40] <musikgoat> !shiretoko | kam00zy
[02:40] <kam00zy> its 3.7 musikgoat
[02:40] <musikgoat> ahh
[02:41] <guest17747> still trying to find usb-creator after install... any suggestions?
[02:41] <kam00zy> its in beta but its epic
[02:41] <Balsaq> rigodeni: many having trouble with flash in 904
[02:41] <kam00zy> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/
[02:41] <musikgoat> kam00zy: your trying to build from source?  there isn't a PPA?
[02:41] <kam00zy> err now that i saw
[02:41] <Keiya> Who/what is BumpTop and why did they/it msg me "<tab>"?
[02:41] <kam00zy> thats all ive got ^^
[02:41] <kam00zy> the link
[02:43] <musikgoat> kam00zy: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[02:43] <Balsaq> wow my cpu is up around 100% usage all the time...does that cook the cpu?
[02:43] <Omlette> Balsaq: Only if you don't have enough cooling. :P
[02:43] <seidos> Balsaq: it shouldn't cook your cpu, you can use "top" in terminal to see what process is using up your cpu
[02:44] <Balsaq> seidos: lots of process but allare sleeping except firefox
[02:44] <Omlette> time to kill firefox, then.
[02:45] <seidos> Balsaq: you can stop firefox if you're not using it: pkill -stop firefox in terminal
[02:45] <seidos> Balsaq: you can also find out what is taking up so much cpu.  usually flash
[02:45] <rigodeni> Balsaq: at this point i dont even have flash installed for it, i would like to at least install it and go from there
[02:45] <Keiya> seidos: POP and IMAP don't let me access the calendar stuff, which is heavily used here...
[02:45] <Balsaq> siedos: as i learn more i can prolly cut out some stuff...on ff now...maybe i can dump flash plays utube real slow anyhow
[02:46] <Balsaq> seidos: do i even need flash-took it cause utube said i need it
[02:46] <BumpTop> Ubuntu[Tradition]
[02:46] <seidos> Balsaq: if you want to watch videos on youtube.com, yes
[02:47] <Balsaq> seidos: but they play too slow too enjoy anyway
[02:47] <gilnl> hello, has there been any updates on the Quicktime stream bug?
[02:47] <Balsaq> seidos: so if flash is using all my power i dont need utube that bad
[02:47] <kam00zy> what version number is jaunty?
[02:47] <kam00zy> 9.09?
[02:48] <eminor> 04
[02:48] <seidos> Balsaq: close the tab that has youtube open, see what happens.
[02:48] <Balsaq> seidos: didnt know flash was a power sucker even when just using chat
[02:48] <Balsaq> seidos: i am only in here right now
[02:48] <seidos> Balsaq: coooool.  how are you?
[02:48] <seidos> :)
[02:48] <guest17747> Do I need to upgrade to Intrepid to use usb-creator? I'm on 8.04 currently.
[02:48] <Balsaq> seidos: great havin a ball with this new ubuntu stuff on my 11 year old dell
[02:49] <htorres11393> 8.04 should be able to work considering it's a long term release
[02:49] <seidos> Balsaq: firefox uses between 16 to 28% cpu on my system right now.
[02:49] <guest17747> Thats kinda what I figured too
[02:49] <htorres11393> you don't gotta upgrade it for three years
[02:49] <{Onyx}> Balsaq: I'm in the same boat. Running an old Compaq with a p3 katami 450mhz proc :)
[02:49] <htorres11393> does it work?
[02:49] <Balsaq> seidos: what are your specs
[02:50] <seidos> Balsaq: got an old dell with ubuntu on it.  not sure how old.  what are your specs?  my dell is a 1gz with 128mb ram, matrox video.  it has ubuntu server on it
[02:50] <Balsaq> onyx: ill figure it out i know this beast can do it casue it played utube with w98
[02:50] <guest17747> Someone helped me use aptitude to install usb-creator a minute ago but I can't seem to find it in the OS menus
[02:50] <htorres11393> run the command
[02:50] <seidos> Balsaq: laptop is 2gb ram, intel video, 1.47 duo core
[02:50] <Balsaq> seidos: i got 400mgz pII mmx 512cache 768sdram 8mb ati
[02:50] <guest17747> I tried "sudo aptitude install usb-creator"
[02:51] <guest17747> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "usb-creator"
[02:51] <guest17747> did it not install?
[02:51] <htorres11393> umm idk try from source
[02:51] <guest17747> shoot, I'm not that advanced quite yet
[02:51] <guest17747> is compiling from source a simple process?
[02:52] <htorres11393> depends
[02:52] <seidos> Balsaq: how does it run for you?  that explains it.  what is .28% of 1470
[02:52] <htorres11393> download the source
[02:52] <Balsaq> siedos: i know i can play utube cause it worked with w98 perfectly...but real slow with buntu..need to find drivers...buntu doesnt have em ...thats what i think
[02:52] <guest17747> ok
[02:52] <seidos> like 441?
[02:52] <stevetran> hello, any scripts experts here? I really need a script that replace all my PHP variables "$this->abc" with $this->viewParams['abc'] in many files
[02:52] <guest17747> is there a command for downloading the usb-creator source?
[02:52] <seidos> Balsaq: not sure if it's a driver issue...could be a software issue.
[02:53] <htorres11393> nope
[02:53] <Balsaq> seidos: looked inside my software..says "no proprietary drivers"
[02:53] <Biovore> stevetran: look at sed.. thats a 1 liner..
[02:53] <htorres11393> use firefox or whatever browser you use
[02:53] <Biovore> or learn vim and emacs
[02:53] <guest17747> ok
[02:53] <guest17747> will do
[02:53] <Balsaq> seidos: otherwise she is humminalong better than when it was new in 1998?
[02:53] <Keiya> http://keiya.pastebin.ca/1587043 <- Segfault! How I do loath thee!
[02:54] <guest17747> I need the tar.gz file, correct?
[02:54] <Balsaq> seidos: still take 3 mnutes to go from off to online but that has always been that way but online moves around better than w98 when it was new
[02:54] <Keiya> "We logged in! Let's segfault!"
[02:54] <seidos> Balsaq: there are some great programs that would work on that system.
[02:54] <Keiya> I hate Evolution right now.
[02:54] <Keiya> And Microsoft.
[02:55] <Enigma885> any Audacious users over here??
[02:55] <Keiya> And, um, sleep.
[02:55] <Balsaq> seidos: hey great what are they
[02:55] <htorres11393> stop what ur doing
[02:55] <guest17747> ok
[02:55] <htorres11393> i got a deb package
[02:55] <Balsaq> seidos: computer dork here though
[02:55] <seidos> Balsaq: server programs.  apache2
[02:55] <htorres11393> here's the link: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/all/usb-creator/download
[02:55] <Enigma885> guys i need some help with compiling a program
[02:55] <Balsaq> seidos: what that for?
[02:56] <guest17747> cool
[02:56] <htorres11393> yeah
[02:56] <htorres11393> i'm installing it too cuz it's a good thing to have
[02:56] <demonspork> Can someone who has google chrome installed please PM me, I need to duplicate a bug
[02:56] <Balsaq> seidos: what is the purpose of server pkg apache2
[02:56] <seidos> Balsaq: bind9, or dnsmasq...what else?
[02:56] <guest17747> so, i need to edit my sources.list?
[02:57] <seidos> Balsaq: webserver.  you can host your own website, but you would have to leave your computer on all the time
[02:57] <baldurpet> hi
[02:57] <Enigma885> SO, how can i get someone to listen in this flood of talks !!!!!
[02:57] <Tnavi> How can i Get Six Pack Abs
[02:57] <Tnavi> ??
[02:57] <htorres11393> idk i've never had to do that
[02:57] <htorres11393> lol
[02:57] <mike> hello
[02:57] <htorres11393> just get the deb file in the link
[02:58] <htorres11393> pick a mirror and download it
[02:58] <Balsaq> seidos: what are these pkgs for...are we taling about making utube run faster or that they are just good pkgs for some other reason?
[02:58] <guest17747> ahh.. ok
[02:58] <htorres11393> when it's done downloading just click on the deb file and it'll run the deb package manager
[02:58] <htorres11393> that takes care of everything
[02:58] <baldurpet> Can someone give me a quick help?
[02:58] <Orfeous> when will ubuntu 9.10 get a final release?
[02:58] <Balsaq> seidos: i dont know jack flippin  sh*t bout puters
[02:58] <guest17747> ok, i'm there
[02:58] <guest17747> its says that usb-creator requires two other packages
[02:58] <baldurpet> It's relating to writing to drives
[02:58] <baldurpet> Pretty basic
[02:58] <Enigma885> baldurpet, i wish i can
[02:59] <guest17747> mtools; syslinux
[02:59] <baldurpet> I just formatted a 1 TG HDD
[02:59] <Enigma885> baldurpet, go ahead i might help by any means
[02:59] <baldurpet> Enigma: sure
[02:59] <ajwo> anyone familiar with java and sqlite?
[02:59] <htorres11393> what?
[02:59] <echosystm> is it best to set your xorg dpi to the dpi of your monitor and set your computer to use smaller fonts OR just set your xorg dpi to something lower?
[02:59] <Rubinioo> how large usb stick do I need to create a usb live key?
[02:59] <baldurpet> using gparted
[02:59] <seidos> Balsaq: you're talking to me on internet relay chat.
[02:59] <baldurpet> and I mounted it using the command line
[02:59] <Balsaq> yup i know that seidos
[03:00] <baldurpet> but I can't copy things to it without using the command line
[03:00] <seidos> cool
[03:00] <guest17747> I think those two packages are included in the usb-creator package
[03:00] <guest17747> i'm learning
[03:00] <Balsaq> seidos: is that what those programs are for?
[03:00] <baldurpet> (using <sudo> on the command line)
[03:00] <wabash> Hello.
[03:00] <Enigma885> baldurpet, weird ..wat format did u use?
[03:00] <htorres11393> you'll never stop that believe me i'm still learning and i've been on it for a year
[03:00] <baldurpet> EXT4
[03:00] <wabash> Can anyone suggest a program to play real media files for ubu?
[03:00] <baldurpet> but this isn't the first time this has happened to me
[03:00] <htorres11393> idk what exactly it installs but it's a pretty neat thing
[03:00] <guest17747> haha... i can imagine
[03:00] <htorres11393> just run it from the command line
[03:00] <seidos> Balsaq: programs are for setting up a webserver.  If you want video to be faster, you can try using totem.  Flash is slow in ubuntu.  It's free.  To make it faster would have to learn how to improve the code
[03:01] <Enigma885> baldurpet, so wat did u do when i happened before ?
[03:01] <guest17747> I can see it installed into the System menu, I can see the icon
[03:01] <baldurpet> another HD I have is also mounted like this
[03:01] <guest17747> how do i run via terminal?
[03:01] <echosystm> anyone?
[03:01] <wabash> echosystm: what?
[03:01] <baldurpet> nothing, I just move files between them as root
[03:01] <wabash> maybe I can answer
[03:01] <echosystm> echosystm: is it best to set your xorg dpi to the dpi of your monitor and set your computer to use smaller fonts OR just set your xorg dpi to something lower?
[03:01] <htorres11393> just type in usb-creator
[03:01] <Enigma885> baldurpet, well..as a basic try; have u tried to reformat?
[03:01] <baldurpet> I just reformatted?
[03:01] <guest17747> cool, it opens the gui of usb-creator
[03:01] <wabash> don't know.
[03:01] <Keiya> But argh\
[03:01] <htorres11393> yeah
[03:01] <Keiya> This is a blocking issue
[03:01] <Keiya> t
[03:01] <wabash> anyone know about playing real media fils on linux?
[03:02] <htorres11393> get used to doing a lot of command line stuff
[03:02] <htorres11393> it's important
[03:02] <S4nD3r> I installed Ubuntu 9.04
[03:02] <Keiya> The mail is easy, but nothing supports the god damn Exchange calendar!
[03:02] <htorres11393> i used to know all the commands but now i forgot them since i haven't really done anything special in awhile
[03:02] <Balsaq> seidos: ok so i should try totem...still not sure what all those other things were...apache and all, were they also ideas for making utube faster or just good things for ubuntu
[03:02] <guest17747> sweet, thanks for the help man.
[03:02] <S4nD3r> but when I used cat /etc/debian_version
[03:02] <htorres11393> your welcome
[03:02] <guest17747> ya, I
[03:02] <Enigma885> baldurpet, system restart ?
[03:02] <S4nD3r> I saw its lenny/sid
[03:02] <baldurpet> I dunno
[03:02] <guest17747> I'm trying to learn terminal commands one at a time
[03:02] <S4nD3r> Is this correct?
[03:02] <baldurpet> you think?
[03:02] <htorres11393> yeah they aren't that hard they make sense
[03:03] <baldurpet> why would that affect my HDD?
[03:03] <Enigma885> baldurpet, i know those kind of things might seem primitive but really can ruin many bigger stuff
[03:03] <Balsaq> seidos: guess ill google em all and read bout em later
[03:03] <htorres11393> if not just alias them
[03:03] <htorres11393> but i don't recommend doing that
[03:03] <guest17747> alias?
[03:03] <htorres11393> because you lose a certain aspect of universalness
[03:03] <htorres11393> yeah alias
[03:03] <htorres11393> make one command into something else
[03:03] <S4nD3r> And?
[03:03] <htorres11393> for example make rm into delete
[03:03] <Balsaq> seidos: gonna go read boout totem now since everything if fine here except utube
[03:03] <baldurpet> hm idunno
[03:03] <Rubinioo> !bash
[03:03] <Enigma885> baldurpet, give it a shot and restart ur system with the HDD attached
[03:03] <baldurpet> ok sure...
[03:03] <danield707> or "ld" as "dir"
[03:04] <guest17747> oh ok
[03:04] <htorres11393> yeah
[03:04] <guest17747> like how macintoshes use "alias" instead of "shortcut"
[03:04] <htorres11393> idk how macintoshes work
[03:04] <htorres11393> never used them really
[03:04] <prince_jammys> S4nD3r: that's fine.
[03:04] <guest17747> all good, not important
[03:04] <echosystm> macs suck lol
[03:04] <guest17747> I see what you're saying though
[03:04] <echosystm> well, macbooks
[03:04] <htorres11393> yeah
[03:04] <echosystm> the desktops are pretty cool
[03:05] <S4nD3r> But I thought my ubuntu was intrepid
[03:05] <htorres11393> thing is that when you're without a gui you can use the command line it's very powerful
[03:05] <seidos> Balsaq: check out transmission while you're at it
[03:05] <htorres11393> helps you fix a lot of things
[03:05] <htorres11393> i got stuck without a GUI and i used the command line and fixed it
[03:05] <S4nD3r> its lenny
[03:05] <S4nD3r> ?
[03:05] <prince_jammys> S4nD3r: that's not even the ubuntu release. I don't know why debian_version is still there, but it's been there in every ubuntu release i've seen.
[03:05] <S4nD3r> lenny is 8?
[03:05] <foey> I'm just running ubuntu-server without any X now. :-)
[03:05] <htorres11393> and if you get on another person's computer you can do a lot of stuff too cuz the commands are universal
[03:05] <htorres11393> lol cool dude
[03:06] <guest17747> yeah man, i see whatcha mean
[03:06] <htorres11393> well nice helping you dude
[03:06] <guest17747> ya, thanks man!
[03:06] <htorres11393> np
[03:06] <S4nD3r> what to do?
[03:06] <S4nD3r> Its a problem?
[03:06] <prince_jammys> S4nD3r: no, lenny is not ubuntu. it's the debian version. (ubuntu is based on debian). Don't worry about that file.
[03:06] <prince_jammys> S4nD3r: no.
[03:06] <htorres11393> now can anyone tell me why in the name of God chromium browser has so many updates?
[03:07] <S4nD3r> umm
[03:07] <prince_jammys> S4nD3r: type: lsb_release -a  to see your ubuntu version.
[03:07] <mgv2> there is no fucus mode on aiming at open arena? - i dont understand how can i hit with such small dot
[03:08] <S4nD3r> Distributor ID:	Debian Description:	Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable Release:	testing/unstable Codename:	n/a
[03:08] <S4nD3r> its not really ubuntu
[03:08] <Lillymon> I am having real webcam problems here.
[03:08] <Biovore> mgv2: the "railgun" as a zoom in..
[03:08] <S4nD3r> deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid universe
[03:08] <S4nD3r> these is in my source.list
[03:09] <Lillymon> Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000. Appears to be functional. Cheese freezes, then outputs a blank file when I tell it to record. VLC does the same. Video outputs to /dev/video0, I don't know where sound goes.
[03:09] <Jagger> anybody know if C&C will work on ubuntu 9.04
[03:09] <Rubinioo> Jagger: in wine yes
[03:10] <mgv2> Biovore, hi - how do you use the zoom in?
[03:10] <Keiya> Aarrgh, why does Gnome keep forcing this pannel to the top?
[03:10] <vero_> lkmk,m
[03:10] <Keiya> I want it on the bottom, damnit!
[03:10] <Jagger> well i downloaded the torrent and i cant figure out how to make it work
[03:11] <Rubinioo> btw is a usb startup disk much faster than a live cd?'
[03:11] <vero_> no
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> Rubinioo:  yes.
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> I find them much faster.
[03:11] <vero_> no
[03:11] <Rubinioo> Dr_Willis: ok thx man
[03:11] <Raenir> heya, how do I double check which version of linux I have? I think I have 64 bit but I dont rmember
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> Rubinioo:  of course it pays to have a decent flash drive. :)  I use them to install from all the time.
[03:12] <chrism> I am having a hard time installing my lexmark printer in 9.04. Lexmark install completes successfully but no device is shown in Administration > Printing. Tips?
[03:13] <S4nD3r> its a ubuntu
[03:13] <S4nD3r> right?
[03:13] <chrism> right, default gnome
[03:15] <Raenir> how do i check if my install of linux is 64 bit or 32 bit?
[03:15] <Biovore> uname -a
[03:16] <Biovore> i386 i686 -> 32bit   x86_64
[03:16] <Biovore> is 64bit
[03:16] <Balsaq> seidos: is trying to play utube videos the same as trying to play mp3...cause thats what totem seems to be about
[03:16] <ubox> anyone ever have a problem with gnome not giving focus to a newly open window?
[03:16] <S4nD3r> Linux matrix 2.6.27-14-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 31 13:01:41 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:16] <S4nD3r> Its 32 bits?
[03:16] <Biovore> yes
[03:16] <Raenir> 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:16] <Balsaq> seidos: as far as i know i dont do any mp3 unless that is utube
[03:16] <Biovore> ^ 64 bits
[03:16] <Raenir> so _64 is 64 bit yes?
[03:16] <Keiya> Well then.
[03:16] <Raenir> yay
[03:16] <Keiya> I guess you're not supposed to try to change the panels on gnome. >_<
[03:16] <Raenir> i downloaded the right ati drivers then
[03:17] <Keiya> Too bad it's now in a useless jumbled mess of a state
[03:17] <Raenir> anyone know if theres an ATI version of CUDA?
[03:17] <Biovore> !ati
[03:17] <mgv2> keepassx is the best?
[03:17] <Keiya> Hmm
[03:17] <Keiya> Gonna rerun this in screen, just in case
[03:18] <S4nD3r> How to discover if my processor is 64bits?
[03:18] <foey> To add Windows shares to samba, do I just need to edit the smb.conf file?
[03:19] <Cyrano_away> foey: That is the way I do it.
[03:20] <foey> Cyrano_away : Thanks, so something like [Share 1] path = /home/shared
[03:20] <Raenir> where can I find 64 bit version of flash for ubuntu?
[03:21] <chuy_max> Raenir, adobe website
[03:21] <Raenir> what they gave me didnt work
[03:21] <tritium> chuy_max, Raenir: no, in the ubuntu repos
[03:21] <Biovore> !flash
[03:21] <tritium> !flash
[03:21] <Cyrano_away> foey: Yeah,  Follow the section in the default file for the [Home] share.
[03:22] <tritium> Raenir: install flashplugin-nonfree, and you'll be good, even on 64-bit
[03:22] <mgv2> what is that http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5094/11612536.png?
[03:22] <chuy_max> mmmm, really, things have changed for ubuntu 64 bit ^^
[03:22] <Cyrano_away> foey: I set some of my shares to browseable = yes, readonly = no
[03:22] <Raenir> thanks
[03:23] <Raenir> now i think theres stuff I need to do to be able to play MP3s?
[03:23] <foey> Cyrano_away : Ok, next question would be I want everyone to be able to access the share without a username or password, guest accounts. I need read/write within the shared folder, is that a option?
[03:23] <Cyrano_away> foey: For my laptops and quick setups I use user based authentication
[03:24] <Keiya> I guess you're not supposed to try to change the gnome panels...
[03:24] <stevetran> Biovore: Can you please help me? Can't do it :(
[03:24] <Keiya> CAn you even reorder thiings on them?
[03:24] <Cyrano_away> foey: You will need to make the share not read only, setup guest access (I have not used that feature) and then set the directory permissions correctly.
[03:24] <chuy_max> how can I install a modifiable ubuntu version on a usb drive (not a bootable iso). I tried unetbootin but that doesn't let you install packages permanently on the usb drive
[03:24] <Biovore> stevetran: do what?
[03:25] <Cyrano_away> foey: I would suggest you still lock the directory for everyone and just set owner and group access.
[03:25] <foey> Cyrano_away : Thanks, big help.
[03:25] <stevetran> the sed thingie
[03:25] <Biovore> stevetran: just a search and replace right?
[03:25] <stevetran> yep
[03:25] <Biovore> sed -s /<stuff to replace>/<replace with stuff>/g
[03:25] <Raenir> Strange 5 minutes ago i checked Update Manager and it said I had a brand new install
[03:25] <Cyrano_away> Keiya: I change my panels all the time.
[03:26] <Raenir> and was up to date
[03:26] <Raenir> but now it found 200 megs of updates
[03:26] <Raenir> that it pulled from nowhere
[03:26] <Biovore> but you may need  to escape some stuff and you need to cat the file into it and output it to a temp file so you can look at the results.
[03:26] <Cyrano_away> Keiya: To reorder things you need to right click on them and unselect "locked to panel"  Then you can select move to move them around.
[03:27] <Biovore> stevetran: what's the sub string you want to replace and the source file?
[03:27] <Enigma885> HEY guys i need some help compiling a program
[03:27] <Biovore> and the string to replace it with.
[03:27] <Cyrano_away> Keiya: To move the panel itself, chose properties of the panel set it to not expand to full width.  Then you can drag the panel to another monitor or to the right or left of the screen.
[03:27] <Biovore> Enigma885: what program?
[03:28] <prajjwal> hi, does anyone know if there is a way to get notepad++ working on ubuntu, without WINE ???
[03:28] <stevetran> Biovore $this->anything where anything = combination of characters, numers and _ with $this->viewParams['anything']
[03:28] <prajjwal> i googled it ... seems like a NO bust just wanna double check
[03:28] <Keiya> Cyrano_away: I unlocked everything :/
[03:28] <Keiya> Some things I still can't reorder.
[03:28] <stevetran> Biovore, i got sed now, but my regular exprsesion is bad :(
[03:28] <Enigma885> Biovore, I'm compiling Audacious from source an need to enable some features
[03:29] <Biovore> stevetran: yeah.. I am not quite that advanced with sed I can pull that out of the air..  Do-able..  I am not 100% sure what the perl regular expression is for that kind of operation.
[03:29] <DigitalKiwi> prajjwal: why use notepad++?
[03:29] <prajjwal> cause i like it ....
[03:29] <DigitalKiwi> geany > notepad++
[03:29] <prajjwal> and its slim ...
[03:30] <Biovore> gedit, kate, kwrite all do that same thing..
[03:30] <DigitalKiwi> and i like notepad++
[03:30] <Cyrano_away> So speaking of gnome panels.  At work I have dual screens and the bottom panel on my laptop screen below the external screen.  When I come home with only the laptop I always have to manually putz with the Nvidia settings to get just the 1920x1200 laptop display.
[03:30] <Biovore> and there slimmer..
[03:30] <jebblue> prajjwal: ask the authors to make it cross platform
[03:30] <stevetran> Biovore: okay, thanks alot anyway
[03:30] <Cyrano_away> No matter what I set the display as the bottom panel never shows up.
[03:30] <Biovore> Enigma885: you install all the development stuff?
[03:30] <Keiya> Oh, right click move
[03:30] <DigitalKiwi> Installed Size : 5820.00 K
[03:30] <DigitalKiwi> that's my geany
[03:30] <Enigma885> Biovore, http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D74%26t%3D94276&ei=5wjESoWxLZa8jAegut1A&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&ved=0CBMQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php%253Ff%253D74%2526t%253D94276%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
[03:31] <jebblue> Cyrano_away: I use the Restricted Drivers and don't have any issues
[03:31] <S4nD3r> Do you recommend install 64bits kernel?
[03:31] <Enigma885> Biovore, all dev stuff are installed
[03:31] <DigitalKiwi> though vim > geany
[03:31] <prajjwal> well ... but kate and kwrite i know is for Linux and i want somewhat of a consistent set of commands when i go to the Win2K at school ..... and thanks .... guess i'll just use Kate here then ..... thanks folks ...
[03:31] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody have any experience setting up a USB mic under Ubuntu?
[03:31] <Cyrano_away> A: it blows that I have to manually tell the lame binary drivers that I now only have one display, use that please.  and B: it sucks that gnome is too brain dead to know that, hey the screen bottom is 1200 lines up there, maybe I should scoot up some and say hi?
[03:32] <GodfatherofEire> Checked the forums, but all I got is dead links
[03:32] <Enigma885> Biovore, i need to know where am i supposed to do "pkg-config - cflags - libs libglade-2.0` "
[03:32] <jebblue> prajjwal: there is kde for windows I've heard
[03:32] <Cyrano_away> jebblue: I am using the restricted drivers as well.  9.04 64.
[03:32] <DigitalKiwi> prajjwal: kde runs on windows so should kate, and geany has a windows port, as does vim
[03:32] <Biovore> Enigma885: right on the command line.. or its a manual build..
[03:33] <_sEBAs_> Olá gente!, estou vendendo meu openMoko, deixo o link do mercadolivre http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-109792666-openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-sensor-touch-e-acelermetros-_JM
[03:33] <Enigma885> Biovore, i've already compiled it. But not with the need feature to accept the plugin.
[03:33] <jebblue> Cyrano_away: you want it to be automatic? disconnect from two at work and 1 at home and it works?
[03:33] <prajjwal> thanks for that ...will look for a  way to put it on my comp xD ... and yea .... not a big fan of the Vim for windows .....
[03:34] <Raenir> !ati
[03:34] <Enigma885> Biovore, the author says：`pkg-config --cflags --libs libglade-2.0` Add end of the line: `pkg-config - cflags - libs libglade-2.0`
[03:34] <Biovore> Enigma885: yeah..  the google translate messes up the download.. so I can't look at any source to give you clues..
[03:34] <robbmunson> !br | _sEBAs_
[03:34] <_sEBAs_> robbmunson, sim percebi
[03:34] <_sEBAs_> robbmunson, valeu!
[03:34] <Biovore> Enigma885: pkg-config returns compiler flags and is sometimes used when doing manual compile jobs in line with the gcc command.
[03:35] <Cyrano_De> jebblue: Yes.  I shut down at work, undoc the laptop.  Boot up at home with just the laptop display set to the correct resolution.  Shutdown, take the laptop to the office, doc it and turn it on.  Now the external monitor is set and the resolution is adjusted once again.
[03:35] <Enigma885> Biovore, so am i supposed to use it with ./configure ?
[03:35] <Biovore> Enigma885: is there a ./configure?
[03:35] <Biovore> err configure
[03:35] <Enigma885> Biovore, yea for Audacious package
[03:36] <Cyrano_De> jebblue: Xinarama used to do that without any issues.  Stupid lame binary, don't work with xinerama, dirvers suck that way.
[03:36] <Biovore> Enigma885: get you get me a clean link for that tar ball so I can see whats in it?
[03:36] <jebblue> Cyrano_De: try the open source ones?
[03:36] <Enigma885> Biovore, the whole thing is that this plugin need Audacious to b compiled using a specific feature
[03:36] <Raenir> !wine
[03:37] <foey> Any must have server programs for ubuntu-server?
[03:37] <Raenir> apache?
[03:37] <Cyrano_De> jebblue: I would love to but they don't support this chipset very well and have no 3D support.  I wish Dell would have offered the ATI cards with this laptop.
[03:37] <Enigma885> Biovore, ok http://distfiles.atheme.org/audacious-2.1.tgz and http://distfiles.atheme.org/audacious-plugins-2.1.tgz for Audacious
[03:37] <foey> Raenir : Got that, its currently a webserver and samba file server
[03:38] <Biovore> Enigma885: does this include your plugin your tring to build?
[03:38] <robbmunson> foey, i would suggest LAMP for starters....
[03:38] <Cyrano_De> foey: for a server the fewer packages the better.
[03:38] <robbmunson> !lamp | foey
[03:38] <robbmunson> just as a bare minimum...i dont think you would need anything else if you managed to grab those :)
[03:38] <Cyrano_De> foey: The less attack vectors the safer it is.  That and updates are less disruptive.
[03:39] <Raenir> !samba
[03:39] <Raenir> aha
[03:39] <foey> Thanks, can anyone suggest a decent backup program?
[03:40] <Enigma885> Biovore, http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=94276 and download ShowLyric32.tar.gz
[03:40] <robbmunson> !backup | foey (hate to keep throwing ubottu factoids)
[03:40] <Enigma885> Biovore, i cannot get a direct link for the plugin sry
[03:40] <Biovore> Enigma885: that good enough.. I got it..
[03:40] <robbmunson> theres a bunch of them foey, you just have to pick the one that fits you the best, look around a bit :)
[03:40] <foey> robbmunson : hehe, no problems. Thanks.
[03:41] <Enigma885> Biovore, thanks =)
[03:41] <dethaddr> can any one help me configure wine?
[03:41] <jebblue> foey: I use rsync and this script http://pastebin.com/m5dde28fc
[03:41] <Biovore> Enigma885: so this plugin looks like it comes in 2 poarts
[03:41] <robbmunson> dethaddr, if you tell us what you want to configure in wine we probably could :)
[03:41] <chu_> silly question, but how do I quit from irssi?
[03:42] <foey> [ / quit ]
[03:42] <Enigma885> Biovore, nope it's just ShowLyric32.tar.gz
[03:42] <Enigma885> Biovore, or u meant the Audacious Plugins package ?
[03:42] <dabernal> hi, how can I connect a yamaha keyboard to my ubuntu distribution... using ubuntu-studio
[03:42] <dabernal> hi, how can I connect a yamaha keyboard to my ubuntu distribution... using ubuntu-studio
[03:42] <chu_> nice
[03:42] <Biovore> Enigma885: the lyris stuff..
[03:43] <seidos> Balsaq: totem plays video too, but not flash videos
[03:43] <dabernal> have  a guitarist, a pianist  and my laptop with the necesary cables
[03:43] <dabernal> jack specialist?
[03:43] <Enigma885> Biovore, the lyrics stuff, as i have just said, is ShowLyric32.tar.gz  only
[03:43] <dethaddr> well i just installed ubuntu on a buddies computer. and im trying to set up diablo 2
[03:43] <Balsaq> seidos: well is utube flash videos or does that mean try totem and dump flash
[03:43] <Enigma885> Biovore, those other packages for 64 machines
[03:44] <mysteriousdaren> wouldnt that be in gaming?
[03:44] <robbmunson> dabernal, have you tried asking in #ubuntustudio ?
[03:44] <Biovore> Enigma885: its just a plugin..   don't need to rebuild audacity..
[03:44] <mysteriousdaren> diablo2?
[03:44] <Cumshot> hi: i used ubuntu in the past, but my wireless cards never quite worked; with the new version of ubuntu, do the wireless cards work out of the box, such as with sony vaio intel laptops?
[03:44] <Biovore> Enigma885: infact.. I don't think you need to build squat..
[03:44] <prappl93> Evolution won't gather images from my e-mails, and I have it set to load HTML, how do I fix this?
[03:45] <masterghost> as I install compiz on a Dell XPS M1330 laptop
[03:45] <dethaddr> hey cumshot, haha, yes. mine works fine. in fact it does and the onboard ethernet does not
[03:45] <Enigma885> Biovore, Audacious cannot recognize the plugin ..and the author wrote about that under "Known issues: "
[03:45] <dabernal> cool
[03:45] <Balsaq> seidos: i am not sure if you are saying i should ude totem to play youtube...and if so...does flash mess with the totem if i get totem
[03:45] <dabernal> working with ardour
[03:45] <dethaddr> yes diablo 2
[03:46] <Feadurn> bonsoir à tous
[03:46] <jebblue> prappl93: you can hit Ctrl + I to get images to load or put the user's address in your address book
[03:46] <dethaddr> i have it installed at my house. but i cant install it here
[03:46] <Enigma885> Biovore, saying "Recompile the main program audacious. Add end of the line: `pkg-config - cflags - libs libglade-2.0` "
[03:46] <Cyrano_De> !fr |feadurn
[03:46] <Biovore> Enigma885: the compiling part is just cd to a directory with a makefile file in it and type make
[03:46] <mdmkolbe> On linux command line, what is the best way to convert a hex encoded file to binary?  (i.e. file contains "4142" should become "AB")
[03:46] <smegzor> I have ubuntu 9.04 64bit, an ati card and the latest driver from ati.  When I boot up, Ubuntu complains that it can't find nvidia.  How do I stop it wanting nvidia?
[03:46] <Feadurn> oups sorry I didn't notice that is the english channel
[03:47] <seidos> Balsaq: no, I am saying totem and flash are separate.  can't help you with your flash problem, wish I could
[03:47] <Cumshot> one more question: im planning on using ubuntu just for regular web surfing and email/chatting, should i go with ubuntu or xubuntu or kubuntu
[03:47] <Balsaq> seidos: oh i realize that, is totem a possible fix for utube problems
[03:47] <robbmunson> Cumshot, that my friend is up to you....they all do it ;)
[03:47] <Cyrano_De> Cumshot: That depends on your personal preferences and the speed of your machine.
[03:47] <Biovore> Enigma885: the pkg-config stuff is handled by "configure" command when you build audatious..  to add the pkg-config would mean hacking up something..  Dosn't sound right to me..
[03:48] <Enigma885> Biovore, yea but how to write `pkg-config - cflags - libs libglade-2.0`
[03:48] <dethaddr> im using ubuntu for games and surfing and media
[03:48] <Balsaq> seidos: i just read the entire report on the ATI video card driver issues and ot doesn't look good
[03:48] <Cyrano_De> Cumshot: I've taken a liking to xubuntu and xfce these days.  Even on my new dual and quad core boxen.
[03:48] <soulnet-2> fina
[03:48] <DigitalKiwi> xfce is gnome with more bugs
[03:48] <Enigma885> Biovore, it's a simple plugin. I'm not paranoid about that indeed
[03:48] <prappl93> Can Ubuntu run properly with Fluxbox installed?
[03:48] <Cyrano_De> DigitalKiwi: And some configuration options.
[03:48] <Balsaq> they seem to have ways to mess with the radeon cards but i have the older xpert card and they dont mention that ne so i gues youtube can KMA
[03:49] <seidos> Balsaq: might be a work around.  I think there's software that lets you download youtube videos, perhaps even to convert them.  haven't tried
[03:49] <soulnet-2> how are you
[03:49] <Cyrano_De> prappl93: Fluxbox runs just fine with ubuntu.
[03:49] <Biovore> Enigma885: not sure.  Would be a hack job at best.  That pkg-config gets run by ./configure when you build audacity.
[03:49] <dethaddr> so what are the must get items for a brand new install?
[03:49] <soulnet-2> maaks
[03:50] <Enigma885> Biovore,  so it will look like ./configure  `pkg-config - cflags - libs libglade-2.0`?
[03:50] <soulnet-2> what your name
[03:50] <prappl93> I just installed Fluxbox, how do I get it to run?
[03:50] <Biovore> Enigma885: I think you need to edit the configure file.
[03:50] <lstarnes> Enigma885: --, not -
[03:50] <Balsaq> seidos: ahhh convert them...another subject very interesting...oh well the music comes thru beautiful on my altec lansing s just not the vids but ya know what...f*ck it! sometimes ya just gotta figure  yur on free software and thats what ya git
[03:50] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: For games, install the games you like.  For web browsing install the restricted-extras.  Install mplayer and or vlc.
[03:51] <soulnet-2> where you andrres
[03:51] <Enigma885> Biovore, sry but could u write the command as it should be written
[03:51] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: install the mplayer/vlc firefox plugins, flashplugin-installer and some form of java JRE.
[03:52] <Biovore> Enigma885: pkg-config - cflags - libs libglade-2.0   on the command line should print some text.
[03:52] <dethaddr> Cyrano_De: isnt there a sudo code that does em all?
[03:52] <Biovore> Enigma885: pkg-config -cflags -libs libglade-2.0
[03:52] <Biovore> I tihnk
[03:52] <Qtpaxa> anyone has Google Wave invite??
[03:52] <seidos> Balsaq: good point
[03:52] <lstarnes> Biovore, Enigma885: --, not -
[03:53] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: alien arena, warsow and nexuiz are decent games.
[03:53] <Balsaq> seidos: hey you ever look at your error console..mine is always LOADED with errors...i just erase em?
[03:53] <dethaddr> Cyrano_De: im trying to install diablo 2
[03:53] <seidos> Balsaq: what error console?
[03:53] <Enigma885> Biovore,  ./configure --prefix=/usr `pkg-config --cflags --libs libglade-2.0`?
[03:53] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: you can do a sudo apt-get install mplayer ubuntu-restricted-extras ...
[03:54] <Biovore> Enigma885: nope.. I don't think thats it..
[03:54] <Balsaq> seidos: no clue, found it when i was clicking on system or something and it always shows a lot of errors, it is in ubuntu 810 and 904
[03:54] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: For diablo 2 you need wine.  I beleive the packaged wine will run it.  If not crossover games and someone else have commercial support for running wintendoze games.
[03:54] <Enigma885> Biovore, any other suggestions ?
[03:54] <AstroEl> when is the next release of ubuntu?
[03:54] <mysteriousdaren> comega?
[03:54] <Balsaq> seidos: ill look again so i can tell you where it is
[03:55] <lstarnes> AstroEl: october 29
[03:55] <AstroEl> OK
[03:55] <seidos> Balsaq: looking it on the web
[03:55] <Balsaq> seidos: it is in TOOls
[03:55] <seidos> Balsaq: in firefox?
[03:55] <prappl93> So, how do I get Fluxbox running now? I just sudo apt-get installed it
[03:55] <dethaddr> Cyrano_De: sudo apt-get wine. i already did that. but i forgot how to set wine up
[03:55] <chu_> log out
[03:55] <Balsaq> seidos hit tool and the window will drop down and see error console, click it
[03:55] <soulnet-4> kamu dari negara mana
[03:56] <chu_> prappl93, log out, select fluxbox as the session  and log in
[03:56] <Cyrano_De> prappl93: You will need to log out.  At the login screen click on the session menu and select fluxbox there.
[03:56] <Balsaq> seidos: dont know if it is FF or ubuntu but the FF came ib the ubuntu so you should have it
[03:56] <prappl93> Ok, thanks
[03:57] <Balsaq> seidos: do you have ubuntu
[03:57] <seidos> Balsaq: yeah dude, i have ubuntu
[03:57] <Balsaq> seidos: is in the tools thing on top of yur screen near bookmarks
[03:57] <Biovore> Enigma885: I don;t think you need to mess with audaious its self..
[03:58] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: winecfg will get you a base setup.
[03:58] <Biovore> Enigma885: that what it means with the term plug in.. it just getting some files in the right spot so it sees them..  looks like a py script and a couple .so files.
[03:58] <seidos> Balsaq: i have two errors in my error console
[03:59] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: Once you have that just type wine setup.exe (or whatever your game installer is called) and it will start the installer.
[03:59] <Balsaq> seidos: i hate those lil b*sturds cause i dont know what they are i just keep wipin em out? had about 25 of em once
[03:59] <Balsaq> long as they dont slow me down
[03:59] <dethaddr> Cyrano_De: in a terminal do i just rund sudo winecfg?
[03:59] <seidos> Balsaq: weird
[04:00] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: I'm not sure you need to sudo that command.
[04:00] <Balsaq> seidos: wish i could read the book...but there aint no n=book huh
[04:00] <Enigma885> Biovore, Audacious cannot "see" the .so plugin unless it's compiled with that certain feature needed
[04:00] <dethaddr> heh. i did and i told me .wine is not owned by me
[04:00] <Enigma885> Biovore, it gives "Failed to load plugin (/usr/lib/audacious/General/ShowLyric.so): /usr/lib/audacious/General/ShowLyric.so: undefined symbol: glade_xml_new stenh.cpp: init()"
[04:01] <Shawn-> Is there a Python programming channel somewhere?
[04:01] <Hodapp> I just had audio suddenly quit working with anything that used PulseAudio. After a reboot, all I get from anything using PulseAudio is a crackle.
[04:01] <Keiya> Try /join #python
[04:01] <Keiya> >_>
[04:01] <Hodapp> ALSA output works flawlessly.
[04:01] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: ls -la <---who owns .wine
[04:02] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: That may be the case if you ran winecfg with sudo.
[04:02] <soulnet-4_> hey
[04:02] <Biovore> Enigma885: well you can try to build a newer version of audaious.    apt-get remove audacious first..
[04:02] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: try chown -R yourlogin:yourlogin ~/.wine
[04:02] <Biovore> Enigma885: then to configure audacious do  "configure --prefix=/usr"  then a make and make install  and then try to build and install the plugin.
[04:03] <soulnet-4_> where are you
[04:03] <Enigma885> Biovore, i tried already. but same result. I have noticed that the author of the plugin mentioned how to overcome this.
[04:03] <soulnet-4_> where you school
[04:03] <Enigma885> Biovore, by the pkg thing
[04:04] <dethaddr> like this chown -R dethaddr:DethMachine ~/.wine ?
[04:04] <Balsaq> seidos: just read the apache thing
[04:04] <soulnet-4_> I from indonesia,you?
[04:05] <Keiya> Wow
[04:05] <Keiya> Vim's not installed by default?
[04:05] <seidos> Keiya: it is on my system
[04:05] <Keiya> Wasn't here.
[04:05]  * Keiya shrugs
[04:05] <Keiya> Not like sudo apt-get vim is hard.
[04:05] <soulnet-4_> what your name]
[04:06] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: if DethMachine is a group on your machine that you are a member of, yes.  Otherwise your primary group should just be your login.
[04:06] <Biovore> Enigma885:  these instructions are vuage..     this could be in any file.    maybe one of the makefiles?
[04:06] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: Mine would be "chown -R Cyrano_De:Cyrano_De ~/.wine
[04:06] <soulnet-4_> Ifrom indonesia and you?
[04:07] <Biovore> Enigma885:  can try "./configure --prefix=/usr `pkg-config --cflags --libs libglade-2.0`  but I doubt that will work.
[04:07] <seidos> Keiya: is vi installed?
[04:07] <dethaddr> i tried my login and it says chown: cannot access `dethaddr': No such file or directory
[04:07] <Enigma885> Biovore, i think i'm gonna email the original poster may be has some good explanation
[04:07] <Cyrano_De> Keiya: Vim is installed, It is a "light" version.
[04:07] <vikk> does anyone know how to upgrade the graphics???
[04:07] <vikk> through terminal
[04:07] <vikk> ???
[04:07] <prappl93> I logged into fluxbox and my connection didn't work, how do I get it to work?
[04:08] <Enigma885> Biovore, i really appreciate ur help :)
[04:08] <Biovore> Enigma885: orginal poster looks to speak mandrian chinese..
[04:08] <Biovore> gl with that :-P
[04:08] <Cyrano_De> Keiya: vim-tiny I beleive is the package name.
[04:08] <eus> anyone know the IRC chanel of RT(request Tracker) ?
[04:08] <vikk> how to upgrade graphics through terminal???
[04:08] <Enigma885> Biovore, lol well i will post plain English. I don't think it's that hard.
[04:08] <vikk> how to upgrade graphics through terminal???
[04:08] <eus> anyone know the IRC chanel of RT(request Tracker) ?
[04:09] <vikk> how to upgrade graphics through terminal???
[04:09] <eus> anyone know the IRC chanel of RT(request Tracker) ?
[04:09] <vikk> how to upgrade graphics through terminal???
[04:09] <vikk> pls
[04:09] <vikk> i need help
[04:09] <vikk> how to upgrade graphics through terminal???
[04:09] <deek_> join #utah
[04:09] <FloodBot1> vikk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <eminor> stop spamming
[04:09] <vikk> does anyone know
[04:09] <vikk> how to upgrade graphics through terminal???
[04:09] <dethaddr> so im pretty sure that the archive manager doesnt show up when i try to install an .exe file
[04:09] <eus> anyone know the IRC chanel of RT(request Tracker) ?
[04:10] <vikk> does anyone know
[04:10] <jjrev> vikk: what exactly is your situation?
[04:10] <vikk> i want to upgrade my graphics
[04:10] <eus> anyone know the IRC chanel of RT(request Tracker) ?
[04:10] <vikk> through the terminal
[04:10] <vikk> becouse i cant play games
[04:10] <eus> anyone know the IRC chanel of RT(request Tracker) ?
[04:10] <jjrev> vikk: what graphics card do you have and what games are you trying to play?
[04:11] <eus> anyone know the IRC chanel of RT(request Tracker) ?
[04:11] <vikk> well i dont know what graphics card i have
[04:11] <eus> anyone know the IRC chanel of RT(request Tracker) ?
[04:11] <lstarnes> eus: please wait at least 15 minutes before repeating
[04:11] <vikk> im on a laptop
[04:11] <eus> anyone know the IRC chanel of RT(request Tracker) ?
[04:12] <vikk> how to upgrade graphics through terminal???
[04:12] <jjrev> vikk: what laptop?
[04:12] <vikk> its a dell inspiron 6000
[04:12] <Shawn-> eus If no one answers the first time chances are they won't answer the second third or fourth either.
[04:12] <eus> anyone know the IRC chanel of RT(request Tracker) ?
[04:12] <vikk> i have ubuntu 8.10
[04:13] <lstarnes> eus: did you not see what I said about repeating?
[04:13] <lstarnes> eus: there is no channel for it, sorry
[04:13] <eus> thanks
[04:13] <Shawn-> !repeat | eus
[04:14] <lstarnes> eus: http://searchirc.com usually has good channel listings
[04:14] <vikk> can any one help
[04:14] <prappl93> I have a question, using the USB Startup Disc Creator located in the System > Administration menu, can I just burn the Ubuntu ISO to a flashdisk and have the person install it off of theire?
[04:14] <prappl93> There*
[04:14] <eminor> vikk, type in a terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[04:14] <vikk> ok
[04:15] <jjrev> vikk: you likely have an ATi card
[04:15] <xnok> Is the right place to ask a question about issues I have with nvidia card on a dell laptop and the -185 driver?
[04:15] <vikk> i have a Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[04:16] <Shawn-> xnok Which Nvidia card
[04:16] <DigiAngel> Hey all
[04:16] <DigiAngel> Anyone have any idea of what packages are needed on server for audio?
[04:16] <Cyrano_De> xnok: This is the right place to toss that Nvidia mess in a lake.  Or is that just me and my frustrations with them these days.
[04:17] <ekontsevoy> Is anyone here using console version of BitTorrent? btncurses keeps reporting "network is unreachable" on torrents from isohunt, while gnome's "transmission" works fine...
[04:17] <vikk> hey jjrev
[04:17] <DigiAngel> Not me ekontsevoy
[04:18] <xnok> You're not alone. It used to work fine with Jaunty but the nvidia driver no longer works with karmic.
[04:18] <jjrev> vikk: i'm looking for the packages
[04:18] <Shawn-> xnok That's because Karmic is still in Beta ;)
[04:18] <vikk> how ok
[04:18] <vikk> thanks
[04:18] <Cyrano_De> ekontsevoy: I use rtorrent when I need a good clean cli BT client
[04:19] <xnok> Yup, but that is part of the testing... par for the course ... and all that, but I am trying to get that working as well :)
[04:19] <mysteriousdaren> transmission? '
[04:19] <ekontsevoy> Cyrano_De: checking it out...
[04:20] <jjrev> vikk: you need to install 'xserver-xorg-video-intel'
[04:20] <ekontsevoy> mysteriousdaren: yeah, when you click on a .torrent file in firefox in gnome, "Transmission" is a GTK-based torrent client that starts up and starts downloading.
[04:20] <vikk> ok
[04:20] <Cyrano_De> ekontsevoy: rtorrent with screen is a very handy setup.
[04:20] <vikk> where did i get it
[04:20] <vikk> where do i get it?
[04:20] <dethaddr> does anyone want to hear some thing extremely messed up?
[04:20] <jjrev> vikk: #> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[04:21] <ekontsevoy> Cyrano_De: yeah, I've been using the "official" python-based torrent but lately it just doesn't work... wtf happened?
[04:21] <DigiAngel> No go with server and audio eh?
[04:21] <mysteriousdaren> yup
[04:21] <DigiAngel> Just need to know which packages I need
[04:21] <vikk> ok i will try it
[04:21] <Cyrano_De> ekontsevoy: I have no idea.  I try to stay away from bloated python apps when there are good/better leaner alternatives.
[04:21] <dethaddr> i finnaly get the diablo 2 installer to pop up. and the user agrement pops up and tells me to scroll down and read the agreement ant agree button will light up
[04:22] <Cyrano_De> ekontsevoy: I've been using rtorrent for years now.
[04:22] <dethaddr> well i did. and it wont light up
[04:22] <DigiAngel> NIght all..showertime!
[04:22] <vikk> thanks im installing it
[04:23] <vikk> it said that its already at the new version
[04:23] <jjrev> vikk: alright, do you have gnome running now?
[04:23] <ekontsevoy> Cyrano_De: ok, I'm starting it....
[04:23] <prappl93> I can make a flash drive bootable version of Ubuntu through the USB Startup Disk Creator can't I?
[04:23] <vikk> i think
[04:23] <vikk> why do i need it
[04:24] <jjrev> vikk: i'm just wondering if you are stuck in text only mode
[04:24] <vikk> no
[04:24] <ekontsevoy> Cyrano_De: hm... rtorrent also appears to be just sitting there.
[04:24] <Cyrano_De> prappl93: Yes.  That will create a "Live" usb key if you point it at a desktop iso/CD
[04:25] <ekontsevoy> I just did rtorrent http://url-to-torrent.torrent - am I missing something?
[04:25] <prappl93> Alright, thank you. Thats what I thought it did, but wasn't entirely sure.
[04:25] <vikk> for example i open extreme counter strike 1.6 final release 2 and it open but then blocks and cant do anything so i have to restart
[04:25] <Cyrano_De> ekontsevoy: You need to add torrents to it.  Press "o" to add a torrent.
[04:25] <Cyrano_De> ekontsevoy: You can configure it to watch a directory and start downloading any torrents you save there.
[04:26] <jjrev> vikk: hold on
[04:26] <vikk> ok
[04:26] <ekontsevoy> Cyrano_De: how do I exit? Ctrl+Z and then kill?
[04:26] <lstarnes> ekontsevoy: try ctrl+c
[04:26] <lstarnes> ekontsevoy: or ctrl+d
[04:26] <ekontsevoy> Cyrano_De: it wont' do anything if I press o (or even ctrl+c)
[04:26] <Cyrano_De> ekontsevoy: q
[04:26] <Cyrano_De> ekontsevoy: or ctrl-q
[04:27] <ekontsevoy> hold on, something is definitely fucked up, nothing works. maybe an issue with screen....
[04:27] <prappl93> I was reading that Superkey + C is suppose to center the cursor in the screen but it doesn't. Is there a way to fix this?
[04:27] <dethaddr> for what reason would the user agreement not work?
[04:28] <jjrev> vikk: you are running Steam through WINE?
[04:28] <Cyrano_De> ekontsevoy: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/
[04:28] <vikk> no its not installed thourgh wine i just open it with winebrower no steam
[04:28] <ekontsevoy> Cyrano_De: thanks, I'm off to read that page.
[04:29] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=362457
[04:29] <prappl93> Every time I have booted my computer since I accidentally clicked the PalmOS Management application it has the set up screen for that show up
[04:29] <prappl93> How do I get rid of that
[04:29] <ekontsevoy> But something is not right though. Here is what I see (and nothing works, not a single hot key you mentioned) --> http://pastie.org/637608
[04:30] <jjrev> vikk: its possible that your video card is working fine and CS is not working
[04:30] <vikk> ohh
[04:30] <jjrev> vikk: try this website --> http://cslinux.hacka.net/
[04:30] <ckw> Anyone able to help?  I'm in graphics card hell right now
[04:30] <O___o> which software best to run windows xp?
[04:30] <ckw> I was using ATI integrated graphics
[04:31] <ckw> but just got an nvidia video card
[04:31] <O___o> is it virtualbox or mvware?
[04:31] <ckw> 9400GT to be exact
[04:31] <ckw> when I booted up, I got a terminal login prompt for ~5 seconds, then a blank screen
[04:31] <dethaddr> where can i get opengl drivers
[04:31] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: Sorry I can't help much more than that.  I do not use wine at all anymore and have never used it for games.
[04:32] <ckw> I ssh'd in and installed the nvidea packages I found via packages.ubuntu.com, but it's not working
[04:32] <vikk> hey do u know where i can download a working one
[04:32] <jesus_> hola
[04:32] <vikk> the game
[04:32] <Keiya_> keiya@keiya-laptop:~/df$ ls
[04:32] <Keiya_> command line.txt  data  df  dwarfort.exe  file changes.txt  g_src  libs  raw  README.linux  readme.txt  release notes.txt  sdl
[04:32] <ckw> I know the card works, since I dual boot windows and it is fine
[04:32] <Keiya_> keiya@keiya-laptop:~/df$ ./dwarfort.exe
[04:32] <jesus_> alguien que me pueda ayudar
[04:32] <Keiya_> bash: ./dwarfort.exe: No such file or directory
[04:32] <FloodBot1> Keiya_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:32] <jjrev> vikk: ask Google
[04:32] <Keiya_> ... Can anyone tell me why BASH AND BASH ALONE refuses to find that file?
[04:32] <jjrev> ;)
[04:32] <Keiya_> (And despite the .exe, it /is/ a linux binary. >_>)
[04:32] <lstarnes> !es | jesus_
[04:33] <vikk> i also have a problem with CEDEGA
[04:33] <lstarnes> Keiya_: does it have the executable bit set?
[04:33] <Keiya_> Yes
[04:33] <lstarnes> Keiya_: you may need to use chmod u+x dwarfort.exe
[04:33] <vikk> when i want to install NFS Carbon.....i open the yetup thourgh it and when i move the mouse to press next the setup dissapers
[04:33] <Keiya_> lstarnes: didn't help
[04:34] <Cyrano_De> ekontsevoy: You have to download the torrent to a folder.  To close rtorrent it is CTRL-q.  Are you sure your screen setup is not using CTRL-q for the meta key?
[04:34] <prince_jammys> Keiya_: architecture, probably. do you have 64 bit ubuntu?
[04:34] <lstarnes> Keiya_: what output do you get from file dwarfort.exe?
[04:34] <Shadow__X> i am having this problem  type=1503 audit(1254325404.668:6): operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::rw" denied_mask="::rw" fsuid=7 name="/dev/tty" pid=6893 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd"
[04:34] <the_dark_warrio> Is there a channel for 9.10?
[04:34] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: Look for the hardware drivers under the administration menu to install binary drivers for ATI/Nvidia cards.
[04:34] <johannes_> hi, for boot up the files in /boot are the only ones needed at first, is that correct?
[04:34] <Keiya_> it's already 755 already...
[04:34] <Keiya_> prince_jammys: Yeah.
[04:34] <lstarnes> the_dark_warrio: #ubuntu+1
[04:34] <jjrev> vikk: certain software does not play nice with Linux implementations of the Windows API
[04:35] <the_dark_warrio> lstarnes: thanks
[04:35] <prince_jammys> Keiya_: run the command from lstarnes. Likely a 32bit executable
[04:35] <ckw> Anyone able to help me get out of graphics card hell?  I have a Nvidia 9400GT that won't even let me get to a graphical interface
[04:35] <Keiya_> prince_jammys: Wha?
[04:35] <vikk> ok well thanks for ur help jjrev....i owe u one
[04:35] <Keiya_> lstarnes: keiya@keiya-laptop:~/df$ ls
[04:35] <Keiya_> command line.txt  data  df  dwarfort.exe  file changes.txt  g_src  libs  raw  README.linux  readme.txt  release notes.txt  sdl
[04:35] <Keiya_> keiya@keiya-laptop:~/df$ ./dwarfort.exe
[04:35] <Keiya_> bash: ./dwarfort.exe: No such file or directory
[04:35] <lstarnes> Keiya_: I did not say ls
[04:35] <FloodBot1> Keiya_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <Keiya_> er
[04:35] <bobbob1016> Anyone manage to get Uverse Receivers to play back MythTV content?
[04:35] <Keiya_> Waot
[04:35] <vikk> how do i exit
[04:35] <vikk> this chat
[04:35] <lstarnes> vikk: from irc? /quit
[04:35] <vikk> ?
[04:35] <ckw>  /leave
[04:35] <jjrev> vikk: i suggest you refer to WINE/CEDEGA support websites for details on known working windows software
[04:36] <Keiya_> dwarfort.exe: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped
[04:36] <vikk> thanks
[04:36] <Keiya_> I hate this terminal, I'm used to higlight-to-copy >_>
[04:36] <lstarnes> Keiya_: try cd'ing out of the directory then back in
[04:36] <jjrev> ckw: what happened?
[04:36] <Keiya_> lstarnes: Tried that. I've tried moving the directory, etc etc etc...
[04:36] <ckw> Switched from ATI integrated graphics to a nvidia card
[04:36] <ckw> Obiously didn't have the invidia drivers
[04:37] <ckw> however, I would think ubuntu would degrade to 800x600 while I set them up
[04:37] <ckw> Like windows did
[04:37] <lstarnes> Keiya_: bash should be finding it if it has the executable bits set
[04:37] <frewsxcv> how come when i check the size of the contents of a folder in nautilus, it is different than `du -sh folderName`
[04:37] <lstarnes> Keiya_: try moving it to something not ending in .exe.  It likely won't have an effect, but it's worth a shot
[04:37] <jjrev> ckw: well you might have to uninstall the old drivers and install the new ones
[04:38] <prince_jammys> that's not the issue. he needs to install support for 32 bit binaries
[04:38] <ckw> jjrev: I installed nvidia-glx-180 and all relaged nvidia common drivers/180 drivers
[04:38] <ckw> no effect
[04:38] <ckw> (over ssh)
[04:38] <jjrev> ckw: did you uninstall the radeon drivers?
[04:38] <Keiya> And now I'm losing my connection /on wires/. >_< Ah the joy of the campus network
[04:39] <Keiya> Anyway, the executable bits are set, and bash isn't finding it even when I give the full path
[04:39] <ckw> I uninstalled fglrx
[04:39] <Shadow__X> can someone help me with apparmor it wont let cups work anymore
[04:39] <ckw> Which as I understand is the ATI drivers
[04:39] <ckw> s/is/are/
[04:39] <ekontsevoy> Cyrano_De: I figured everything out, thanks! Some other Gnome app was stealing Ctrl+Q. It's kicking ass, thank you for your help!
[04:40] <Cyrano_De> ekontsevoy: Glad to hear it.
[04:40] <prince_jammys> !info ia32-libs | Keiya
[04:40] <ckw> Tried rebooting a few times also, but hit a disk check so I'm waiting for that to finish
[04:41] <prince_jammys> bah.
[04:41] <jjrev> ckw: try #> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[04:41] <ckw> will do
[04:42] <jjrev> ckw: also remove radeontool if you have it
[04:42] <Keiya> Umm...
[04:42] <Keiya> so what, I'm screwed?
[04:42] <Keiya> Have to boot back to Windows for Dwarf Fortress now, too? >_>
[04:43] <ckw> Aha!  Looks like it's working
[04:43] <prince_jammys> Keiya: try to install ia32libs
[04:43] <shane2peru> jjrev: what is ckw's prob?  ATI ?
[04:43] <ckw> I had booted in recovery mode and used it's graphics restore tool
[04:43] <ckw> and it seems to have fixed it
[04:43] <prince_jammys> Keiya: ... and then run the prog.
[04:43] <ckw> I'll try removing that stuff though
[04:43] <soulnet-4> hello
[04:43] <jjrev> shane2peru: he switched from ati to nvidia
[04:43] <Berzerker> d\
[04:43] <shane2peru> jjrev: ahh, good move! :)  I hate ati. :)
[04:43] <jjrev> shane2peru: he's got no video now...
[04:44] <ckw> I now have video
[04:44] <jjrev> shane2peru: i stopped buying ati cards years ago
[04:44] <ckw> lets see if it stays that way though
[04:44] <kbp> has anyone experienced random drop network (LAN) on Ubuntu 9.04?
[04:44] <jjrev> ckw: it should
[04:44] <shane2peru> jjrev: I never knew and got stuck with one in my laptop, last one I will ever own
[04:44] <soulnet-4>  my name anggle, you?
[04:45] <xnok> kbp: no, networking has been solid on all my machines.
[04:45] <soulnet-4> i from indonesia,you
[04:45] <MenZa> soulnet-4: This channel is solely for Ubuntu support. For everything else, try #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[04:46] <kbp> xnok: was it server or desktop version?
[04:46] <xnok> both. 1 server, 2 desktops.
[04:47] <Keiya> OK
[04:47] <Keiya> Who the /hell/ chose that error message
[04:47] <pradeep> is karmic alpha 6 stable enough
[04:47] <Keiya> File not found?
[04:47] <Keiya> I mean
[04:47] <Keiya> SERIOUSLY
[04:47] <FloodBot1> Keiya: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:47] <lstarnes> pradeep: #ubuntu+1 is for karmic
[04:47] <prince_jammys> Keiya: did you install ia32libs ?
[04:47] <Keiya> Yes, and now it works
[04:47] <Keiya> But
[04:47] <Keiya> That was /the most misleading error message ever/
[04:48] <foul_owl> Ok, I am trying to install something simple, like libsdl-image1.2-dev but I keep getting the "broken packages" error message
[04:48] <prince_jammys> Keiya: indeed.
[04:48] <foul_owl> using apt
[04:48] <shane2peru> pradeep: that is really and opinion question and opinions are like nose ...
[04:48] <ckw> Aha!  It's working!
[04:48] <shane2peru> pradeep: it is still alpha
[04:48] <ckw> Thank you jjrev
[04:49] <jjrev> ckw: np, enjoy!
[04:49] <shane2peru> ckw: have an ATI card burning party. :)
[04:49] <ick> l
[04:50] <ick> quit
[04:50] <pradeep> shane2peru: i want to upgrade to karmic alpha 6, is it safe. if there are problems can i revert back to jaunty
[04:50] <prince_jammys> pradeep: ask at #ubuntu+1 , karmic's channel.
[04:51] <Cyrano_De> !karmic
[04:51] <Danbo19> pradeep: wait 1 day for karmic beta
[04:51] <Flannel> pradeep: You should ask in #ubuntu+1, this channel isn't for Karmic questions
[04:51] <Cyrano_De> Special notice to the "Karmic WILL break" section
[04:51] <shane2peru> pradeep: really I reverting means restoring a backup file, or completely re-installing
[04:51] <xnok> #ubuntu+1 has 0 people in it, excluding me.
[04:52] <shane2peru> pradeep: it is alpha, not meant for production
[04:52] <shane2peru> pradeep: not recommendable
[04:52] <pradeep> shane2pro: thank u
[04:52] <Voss> xnox, not surprising ubuntu 9.10 is not even in beta yet
[04:52] <shane2peru> pradeep: it is still in a testing stage, what is the problem?
[04:53] <zopiac> is there a programme where I can right click with the keyboard? im using a one-button mouse.
[04:53] <xnok> Voss: Is there a place to ask the karmic alpha related questions, if it is not this channel or +1?
[04:53] <Voss> xnok, probably  +1 just at some other time
[04:53] <dethaddr> is there a way to run diablo 2 through something other than wine?
[04:53] <prince_jammys> it's not true that zero people are there.
[04:53] <eastcoast0> I'm installing 9.04 and I'm confused about the bootloader.
[04:54] <xnok> ok, thx.
[04:54] <zopiac> dethaddr: try looking up a loki installer
[04:54] <eastcoast0> The MBR is on sdb
[04:54] <shane2peru> xnok: you can ask here, but you may not get help, fire away
[04:54] <eastcoast0> But it says it's installing to (hd0)
[04:54] <prince_jammys> no, don't.
[04:55] <eastcoast0> In the advanced options dialog anyway
[04:55] <eastcoast0> What does it mean by hd0?
[04:55] <jjrev> eastcoast0: you'll have to change that
[04:55] <jjrev> !grub
[04:55] <Danbo19> So I'm having a sound problem in Jaunty, it was working until today, when I unplugged my speakers to plug into my laptop. Now I'm getting absolutely no sound, even with all volumes in Alsamixer all the way up. Can anyone help?
[04:55] <Balsaq> gnome system nonitor is maxing out my CPU all the time? if i "uncheck it" in my add/remove..will i lose it forever?
[04:55] <zopiac> is there a programme where I can right click with the keyboard? im using a one-button mouse.
[04:56] <mnaines> danbo, you've been asking the same question for hours now...It is clear nobody can help you
[04:56] <Raenir> Where are programs like firefox installed to on Ubuntu?
[04:56] <shane2peru> Balsaq: it will delete it from your panel, but you can always add it later
[04:56] <prince_jammys> !filesystem | Raenir
[04:56] <xnok> I'll try -- the nvidia driver (version 185) is no longer working on karmic. used to work fine in jaunty on the same laptop. Odd keyboard behavior. i wanted the desktop effects and the 3d acceleration you get with the nvidia driver instead of the xorg nv driver.
[04:56] <eastcoast0> jjrev: So where should I install it? I have a partition on the drive I'm installing ubuntu to for /boot (sdc2 I think), and the MBR is on sdb
[04:56] <lstarnes> Danbo19: is there a headphone switch somewhere in your sound mixer?
[04:56] <Danbo19> Mnaines: I thought I'd wait for an hour and try again, but I guess I'll just try the forums
[04:56] <Balsaq> shane2peru: bummer, don't want to lose it just disable it until i want to look  at it
[04:57] <Danbo19> lstarnes: maybe, let me check
[04:57] <jjrev> eastcoast0: what does your drive structure look like?
[04:57] <shane2peru> Balsaq: are you running hardy?
[04:57] <Balsaq> ubuntu904
[04:57] <Balsaq> newbie
[04:57] <eastcoast0> jjrev: partitioner won't open up... what was that command for terminal again?
[04:57] <Balsaq> really frakin new
[04:57] <jjrev> eastcoast0: #> fdisk -l
[04:57] <pradeep> how do i upgrade my firefox in jaunty
[04:57] <eastcoast0> jjrev: thanks
[04:57] <shane2peru> Balsaq: are you sure it is the sys monitor that is running up the cpu?
[04:57] <Balsaq> shane2peru:jaunty
[04:58] <ctmjr> !ff35
[04:58] <Danbo19> lstarnes: wow, now I'm embarrassed, I thought I tried that, but I think the speakers were in the wrong port when I did. Sound works now, thanks a lot.
[04:58] <eastcoast0> jjrev: http://pastebin.com/d6f2fced5
[04:59] <Balsaq> shane2peru:well i looked at it when alli was running was firefox and gnome sys mon, then got off of FF and looked agoin...gnome sys mon is taking about 37-50 percent all alnoe and that with FF maxing me out
[04:59] <shane2peru> pradeep: look for ubuntuzilla on the forums, they have an install script, I can get you the link
[04:59] <eastcoast0> jjrev: ignore the thing about sdd
[04:59] <pradeep> shane2peru: yeah sure
[04:59] <hanasaki> what isa good free linux program that will do invoicing and Account receivables?
[04:59] <Balsaq> shane2peru: ff takes about half, system monitor about half
[04:59] <shane2peru>  Balsaq hmm, that doesn't sound right, but I don't think it is your sys monitor, unless there is a bug
[04:59] <zopiac> kinda pitiful . . . even winblows has a decent mousekeys utility, but i cant find any good one for Ubuntu
[04:59] <shane2peru> Balsaq: sounds like something else
[05:00] <Balsaq> shane2peru:uh oh
[05:00] <mnaines> This is cute
[05:00] <zopiac> there is only one that i have heard of so far and i cant figure out how to click correctly
[05:00] <Balsaq> shane2peru: im too new to this to have a bug...
[05:00] <RPG_Master> anyone here good at OOo Impress?
[05:00] <shane2peru> Balsaq: what kind of computer are you running on?
[05:00] <xnok> hanasaki: I just saw on the forums that jgnash was a decent replacement for quicken. I have not tried it so far.
[05:00] <mnaines> I'm curled up on my throne and there's a kitten asleep in my lap
[05:00] <eastcoast0> jjrev: Actually to be honest, I'm just wondering what it's asking
[05:00] <jjrev> eastcoast0: so you want to use sdb1 for ubuntu's /
[05:01] <eastcoast0> jjrev: sdc
[05:01] <zopiac> mnaines: :3
[05:01] <Balsaq> shane2peru: 1998 del dimension xps r400 4oomgz mmx p2 512cache 768sdram 8mb ati
[05:01] <hanasaki> xnok:  thanks
[05:01] <eastcoast0> jjrev: I'm wondering by when it says "install boot loader" it's saying install information to MBR or install the GRUB files?
[05:01] <RPG_Master> Balsaq: nice name :D
[05:01] <eastcoast0> by GRUB files, I mean files GRUB needs to work
[05:01] <Balsaq> hey RPG
[05:01] <Balsaq> the q is silent
[05:01] <pradeep> shane2peru: found it thanks for the info
[05:01] <shane2peru> Balsaq: hmm, I hate to say it, but ati probably is your prob
[05:02] <RPG_Master> Oh :O
[05:02] <RPG_Master> sorry
[05:02] <Balsaq> shane2peru: why do you say that
[05:02] <shane2peru> pradeep: sorry, got distracted:  http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=251
[05:02] <Balsaq> no pron RPG
[05:02] <jjrev> eastcoast0: grub requires a /boot folder
[05:02] <shane2peru> Balsaq: open up a terminal, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[05:02] <Balsaq> almost looks like my friggen name is ball sack huh RPG!
[05:03] <zopiac> Balsaq: ATi has all sorts of problems
[05:03] <eastcoast0> jjrev: the partition plan I made in the ubuntu installer isn't showing up in that terminal output
[05:03] <Balsaq> shane2peru: oh no not that
[05:03] <eastcoast0> jjrev: But I have sdc2 which will be mounted as /boot
[05:03] <jjrev> eastcoast0: because you haven't committed it
[05:03] <shane2peru> Balsaq: it is good for you. :)
[05:03] <eastcoast0> jjrev: indeed
[05:03] <RPG_Master> Balsaq: is that your real name?
[05:03] <shane2peru> Balsaq: paste this in: fglrxinfo | grep render
[05:03] <Balsaq> shane2peru: ok but i am a flippin computer idiot
[05:03] <shane2peru> Balsaq: can you cut and paste?
[05:03] <eastcoast0> jjrev: I'm just wondering if I should set the device for bootloader installation as sdb, sdb1, or sdc2
[05:04] <mandiri> cew_imuet
[05:04] <hanasaki> xnok: any idea of jgnash vs moneydance?
[05:04] <Balsaq> shane2peru: maybe
[05:04] <zopiac> Balsaq: If you plan on using linux for any period of time, you must learn to embrace the command line :D
[05:04] <Balsaq> how did you do the vertical line
[05:04] <jon> is there a way to disable stack smashing protection temporarily in ubuntu 9.04?
[05:04] <shane2peru> Balsaq: just cut and paste. :)
[05:04] <jjrev> eastcoast0: i'm not sure.  your BIOS will chose which device it tries to boot first
[05:04] <xnok> hanasaki: sorry, no. i have not used either. i use quickbooks on an xp for accounting purpose.
[05:04] <Balsaq> fuque me
[05:04] <Balsaq> hang on
[05:04] <eastcoast0> jjrev: No no, that's not what I mean
[05:05] <mnaines> shane2peru: um...That's easier said than done for people who don't know anything about computers
[05:05] <shane2peru> Balsaq: it is beside the backspace key, you have to hit shift
[05:05] <hanasaki> xnok:  the 199$ biz one?  ... hmm  just don't wanna buy windows for just that
[05:05] <eastcoast0> jjrev: sdc2 will be /boot. sdb is the drive with the MBR on it.
[05:05] <jjrev> eastcoast0: well you want to make your SDC drive bootable, and install GRUB to SDC
[05:05] <mnaines> shane2peru: With those kind of people, you have to literally give them directions step by step
[05:05] <Guest77361> is there a way to disable stack smashing protection temporarily in ubuntu 9.04, for educational purposes (an assignment)?
[05:05] <eastcoast0> jjrev: Ok, so it's asking me where to install GRUB, NOT where the MBR is?
[05:05] <Balsaq> shane2peru: but i read that article on here word for word and i dont have that radeon card mine is the old xpert card frm ati
[05:05] <jjrev> eastcoast0: you can always modify GRUB to boot windows from another drive
[05:06] <shane2peru> mnaines: you mean cut and paste is difficult?  wow, I must be an expert then. lol :)
[05:06] <jjrev> eastcoast0: its going to install an MBR to SDC
[05:06] <jjrev> eastcoast0: this makes it bootable
[05:06] <eastcoast0> jjrev: Oh... but the MBR is on sdb
[05:06] <Balsaq> shae2peru: so iam gonna find a nvidia card that works for my puter and works for ubuntu
[05:06] <shane2peru> Balsaq: what was the output for that
[05:06] <xnok> hanasaki: quickbooks is available from amazon.com in usa for $99. i did not have to buy any computers, my wife's still runs XP -- i just borrow it. :)
[05:06] <mnaines> shane2peru: Work a few weeks at a help desk...You will see that even seemingly no-brainer tasks require step-by-step directions
[05:06] <Balsaq> not there yet
[05:06] <shane2peru> Balsaq: yes, that would be recommended.
[05:06] <jjrev> eastcoast0: SDB has it's own MBR because its a bootable partition
[05:06] <Balsaq> hang on lost
[05:06] <eastcoast0> jjrev: And currently the MBR is set up to boot a now non-existent GRUB.
[05:07] <eastcoast0> jjrev: So I need to reinstall GRUB or else my system is unbootable
[05:07] <shane2peru> mnaines: I don't think I could take it
[05:07] <Balsaq> shane2peru: ok can we do that then instead of that terminal shshshsht
[05:07] <hanasaki> heeh xnok ... know where I can get a legal cheap copy of windows 7?
[05:07] <jjrev> eastcoast0: do you have grub already on another drive?
[05:07] <shane2peru> mnaines: I can handle linux newbies, but computer noobs, too much
[05:07] <eastcoast0> jjrev: I used to have an old opensuse install. I've since removed it.
[05:07] <mnaines> shane2peru: Its a tough job for anyone...Especially when you have to walk people through everything step by step..."Ok...Now left-click and hold, drag the cursor over the text..."
[05:07] <Balsaq> shane2peru: ubuntu and ati are no good together unless you are a pro hacker
[05:07] <eastcoast0> jjrev: however, the MBR on sdb still points to GRUB
[05:07] <jjrev> eastcoast0: so what is SDB
[05:08] <eastcoast0> jjrev: so if I try to boot now, I'd probably get an error 22
[05:08] <jjrev> eastcoast0: probably
[05:08] <xnok> hanasaki: no, i am not even looking. if you are a student with a .edu account, i believe you can get a nice discount. checkout downloadsquad.com for the details.
[05:08] <hanasaki> thanks
[05:08] <shane2peru> Balsaq: well, just depends on the card, my wife's computer has ati and never had a problem, didn't even know that ati didn't like Linux
[05:08] <Guest77361> anyone know how to disable stack smashing protection for educational purposes?
[05:08] <jjrev> eastcoast0: you need to make sure that the drive you are installing ubuntu on is the drive you install GRUB
[05:08] <shane2peru> Balsaq: on the other hand my laptop's ati is the pits!
[05:08] <eastcoast0> jjrev: so ubuntu will automatically add the needed information to the mbr on sdb?
[05:08] <jjrev> eastcoast0: then you will edit that GRUB to boot whatever other OS is available in the system
[05:09] <losher> Guest77361: google knows...
[05:09] <Balsaq> shane2pro : well iread that link on here about ati what a mess\
[05:09] <jjrev> eastcoast0: no
[05:09] <shane2peru> mnaines: yep, I'm not cut out for that!
[05:09] <Guest77361> i followed the methods, but none worked
[05:09] <jjrev> eastcoast0: you want to have MBR installed on SDC
[05:09] <jjrev> eastcoast0: then make SDC the boot drive in the BIOS
[05:09] <Balsaq> shane2peru: unfortunately the dont mention my card all they talkabout is the radeon ones
[05:09] <eastcoast0> jjrev: but then I won't be able to boot into either windows install
[05:09] <mnaines> shane2peru: Yeah...That's the Windows world for you, though
[05:09] <Balsaq> not xpert
[05:09] <shane2peru> Balsaq: however I'm not sure that is your prob, but I have a hunch it probably is.
[05:09] <Guest77361> i tried the -fno-stack-protector in gcc, but it still seg faults
[05:10] <shane2peru> mnaines: perhaps that is why I dumped windows. :)
[05:10] <Balsaq> ok igotta find th termonal then looking
[05:10] <eastcoast0> jjrev: No no. Previously I had sdb the first drive in the BIOS. And grub worked fine, because the MBR pointed to GRUB on sdc, where the previous suse install was
[05:10] <jjrev> eastcoast0: not immediately, but after you edit the menu.lst file you can access those windows installs
[05:10] <Guest77361> i also found that ubuntu has some extra protection, but cannot find how to temporarily disable it
[05:10] <mnaines> shane2peru: I'm still a Linux newbie, but I like Linux better than Windows
[05:10] <pony_> this is my first time being on ubuntu
[05:10] <pony_> its kinda slow =/
[05:10] <Balsaq> shane2peru: so you think my 11 year old ati xeprt is sucking all the juice?
[05:10] <losher> Guest77361: dunno what to tell you. People on this thread say it works: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418234
[05:10] <shane2peru> Balsaq: perhaps you need to have a friend take a look at it for you.
[05:11] <shane2peru> Balsaq: really hard to tell, without 'hacking'
[05:11] <shane2peru> Balsaq: troubleshooting
[05:11] <Balsaq> ill do it i am looking for that GD terminal
[05:11] <Guest77361> that is the thread i used
[05:11] <shane2peru> mnaines: I have learned to love the power of the terminal and scripts
[05:11] <jjrev> eastcoast0: it doesn't really matter how many MBR enabled drives are in your system, or how many GRUBs are installed on the drives.. the BIOS is going to boot the one its told.  and that drive's GRUB or whatever other boot loader will have to be set up to boot the other os's
[05:11] <Guest77361> if i use the option in the second to last post, can i enable it again and how?
[05:11] <mnaines> shane2peru: I still need the GUI because of all the time I was a Windows sheep
[05:11] <eric-b> haha, one free internet for you guys: http://lolwat.net/?w=9e1e91a0e1819d6716ec4095191eec27
[05:12] <shane2peru> Balsaq: in the menu is Applications, then click on Accessories, then Terminal
[05:12] <eastcoast0> Think I can I get a second opinion? Anyone?
[05:12] <shane2peru> mnaines: nothing wrong with gui, I just love scripting
[05:12] <jdu> eastcoast0: on what?
[05:12] <eastcoast0> jdu: Where to install the bootloader
[05:12] <Balsaq> shane2peru: ok got it now what
[05:12] <mnaines> shane2peru: Yeah...I want to learn kernel scripting so I can contribute, but I don't know if I can learn because I'm too dependent on the GUI
[05:13] <Balsaq> fgl thinghuh
[05:13] <losher> Guest77361: sorry, which option do you mean?
[05:13] <Guest77361> oops, wrong thread, nevermind, i tried this one also
[05:13] <shane2peru> Balsaq: copy and paste this after the colon:   fglrxinfo | grep render
[05:13] <losher> mnaines: kernel scripting? What is that?
[05:13] <Guest77361> there was a debian thread somewhere that said how to permanently disable the debian version of the protection
[05:13] <Jill> how to create tar.gz with password?
[05:13] <Balsaq> shane2peru: so 1st i do fglrxinfo....then i dogeprender just like that
[05:13] <shane2peru> mnaines: I don't mess with kernels much, mostly scripting out other work
[05:13] <eastcoast0> jdu: I have sda, sdb, and sdc. sdb is the first drive in the BIOS. sdb has the MBR on it. I want it set up so that the MBR on sdb points to sdc2, which is the /boot partition
[05:13] <mnaines> losher, omg...Please tell me you are smarter than that...
[05:14] <Guest77361> they said to use gcc 3.3 or earlier, but gcc-3.3 is not in synaptic
[05:14] <losher> Guest77361: what about using an older compiler if the -f trick doesn't work?
[05:14] <dethaddr> how can i make ubuntu find my sound card? it built into the MB
[05:14] <losher> mnaines: just answer the question...
[05:14] <shane2peru> Balsaq: copy and paste this:  fglrxinfo | grep render
[05:14] <shane2peru> Balsaq: all together at one time
[05:14] <mnaines> losher, fine...By kernel scripting I meant learning to write code for the kernel to fix bugs and stuff
[05:14] <shane2peru> Balsaq:  fglrxinfo | grep render
[05:14] <Guest77361> also, i am not sure how to install it manually without messing up the new gcc and how to remove it when i am done
[05:15] <eric-b> man, i keep clicking on lolwat.net images
[05:15] <Balsaq> shane2peru: when i copy it to paste the flippin terminal goes awat
[05:15] <Balsaq> away
[05:15] <losher> Guest77361: you might have to find the source code, download & compile it. A lot of work...
[05:15] <jdu> eastcoast0: I don't want to give advice that is wrong, since I have not attempted to seperate the 1st and second stages of grub across two disks
[05:15] <eric-b> sometimes I see RMS, then computer, then computer, then some adult content
[05:15] <eric-b> strange
[05:15] <eastcoast0> jdu: I guess I'll ask on the forums... anyone else can help me?
[05:15] <MenZa> !ot | eric-b
[05:15] <Balsaq> shane2peru pleas do this..join Balsaq
[05:15]  * mnaines wonders why he always have to dumb himself down so people can understand him
[05:15] <Guest77361> what if i have virtualbox, do you think i could install an old version of linux or is that more difficult?
[05:15] <eric-b> sorry MenZa, thought this was a general chat channel, will take the lols somewhere else
[05:15] <losher> mnaines: how odd. I've never heard the term. Scripting usually refers to a higher level language e.g. bash, perl, python. Not much of that in the kernel...
[05:16] <jdu> eastcoast0: my suggestion would be to install grub over the mbr on the disk where /boot is, and tell the bios to boot off of it.
[05:16] <eastcoast0> jdu: ugh... I Was hoping to avoid that
[05:16] <Balsaq> shane2peru can you enter the room known as Balsaq?
[05:16] <jdu> eastcoast0: but, again, i'm no expert
[05:16] <mnaines> losher, ugh...Please tell me I don't need to clarify everything I say just so you'd understand
[05:16] <jjrev> eastcoast0: yes, you want to install GRUB on the drive you are installing Ubuntu on..
[05:16] <Balsaq> my screen is going so gd fast icant worjk well
[05:17] <shane2peru> Balsaq: sorry, if your terminal disappears, you are going to need someone to look at your computer for you
[05:17] <losher> mnaines: no, I think we're done talking...
[05:17] <bucky>  /join #ballsack
[05:17] <eastcoast0> jjrev: but make the boot drive sdb, like it has always been
[05:17] <eastcoast0> Not sure if I said that right
[05:17] <Lartza_> Hello, I installed bare bones to minimal ubuntu install(Gnome and themes) but I don't know how do I get sound working
[05:17] <Lartza_> It's propably I don't have something installed
[05:17] <jjrev> eastcoast0: you've already got a grub installation on SDB
[05:18] <eastcoast0> jjrev: nein
[05:18] <eastcoast0> jjrev: The MBR on sdb currently points to a nonexistant GRUB
[05:18] <eastcoast0> which would result in an error 22
[05:18] <jjrev> eastcoast0: what is on SDB
[05:18] <losher> Lartza_: 9.04 is notorious for sound problems. Is that what you have?
[05:18] <Guest77361> well, i guess i have to find the old gcc-3.3 source and compile it, thanks for the help
[05:18] <jjrev> eastcoast0: besides the MBR
[05:18] <foul_owl> broken packages with apt. no modification of sources.list, i can't remember installing random debs. can't install anything. this is really strange...
[05:18] <Balsaq> shane2peru: it goes back down to my browser..minimizes when i try to paste
[05:18] <eastcoast0> jjrev: Just one NTFS partition, sdb1, which has windows vista on it
[05:19] <shane2peru> Balsaq: right click and paste
[05:19] <jjrev> eastcoast0: but you see a grub message right?
[05:19] <Balsaq> ican type it if i canfigure outn how you put the vertical line between the firt theng and the 2nd
[05:19] <jjrev> eastcoast0: when you boot SDB?
[05:19] <Lartza_> losher: Propably no, I installed only minimal cli and then gnome-core gdm and x11-xserver-utils, gdm and themes
[05:19] <eastcoast0> jjrev: Yes, grub loading, stage 1.5, error 22
[05:19] <jjrev> eastcoast0: this means GRUB is installed on this drive
[05:19] <eastcoast0> something like that
[05:19] <Balsaq> i got this /?
[05:19] <losher> Guest77361: if I recall, the compiler source has options for running it in place without having to install it...
[05:19] <Lartza_> I need to know what packages should I have installed for sound?
[05:19] <eastcoast0> jjrev: no no
[05:20] <eastcoast0> jjrev: GRUB is no longer anywhere on this system
[05:20] <losher> !sound | Lartza_
[05:20] <shane2peru> Balsaq: hit shift and \
[05:20] <jjrev> eastcoast0: then how is it saying Loading GRUB?
[05:20] <shane2peru> Balsaq: right next to your backspace key perhaps?
[05:20] <jjrev> eastcoast0: the MBR doesn't do that
[05:20] <eastcoast0> jjrev: Because remnants of it are in the sdb MBR
[05:20] <shane2peru> jjrev: it would depend on his settings in the Bios
[05:21] <eastcoast0> well what I mean is, the MBR there points to a now deleted /boot partition, which had GRUB on it
[05:21] <eastcoast0> which is why it fails
[05:21] <Balsaq> shane2peru: there is no verticle line there but there is this   \
[05:21] <Lartza_> How can I make some sound on ubuntu to test? :S
[05:21] <Balsaq> or +
[05:21] <error404notfound> i am trying to do chroot apache using: sudo mount -o bind /var/www /var/www/var/www , now i get: http://pastebin.com/m71a3bb26
[05:21] <jjrev> eastcoast0: the absolute easiest solution here is to install MBR+GRUB to SDC and then edit SDC's GRUB menu.lst file to point to SDB's Windows install
[05:21] <DeathFox> my pc screen fades to black after a while when im watchen movies how do i stop it
[05:21] <shane2peru> Balsaq: try the \ with shift key
[05:21] <DeathFox> from doing that
[05:21] <Balsaq> |  ahhhhh
[05:21] <jjrev> eastcoast0: then have the BIOS boot SDC
[05:21] <Balsaq> ok lets do it
[05:22] <jjrev> eastcoast0: you can also uninstall grub from SDB
[05:22] <jjrev> eastcoast0: and make sure you have the windows bootloader on SDB
[05:22] <eastcoast0> jjrev: Currently I'm unable to burn a cd, so I'd just have to use bootrec or something
[05:22] <shane2peru> DeathFox: System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[05:22] <eastcoast0> from a windows dvd
[05:23] <DeathFox> where in there shane
[05:23] <DeathFox> i looked in there
[05:23] <jjrev> eastcoast0: whatever works for ya
[05:23] <shane2peru> DeathFox: The last tab, Visual Effects
[05:23] <DeathFox> it only shows 3 options
[05:23] <shane2peru> DeathFox: click on none
[05:23] <eastcoast0> jjrev: I'll ask on the forums, and if I still can't figure out how to get what I'm wanting, I'll just go with your plan
[05:23] <DeathFox> but i want the visual effects
[05:23] <jjrev> eastcoast0: this way, if you take away SDC from the system for whatever reason, SDB will not give you any errors when booting
[05:23] <eastcoast0> jjrev: thanks for the help :)
[05:23] <Balsaq> shane2peru:not installed can install by hitiing g and on and on
[05:23] <DeathFox> isent there a way just to disable the fade 2 black
[05:24] <Balsaq> but i knew that
[05:24] <jjrev> eastcoast0: no problem.  good luck
[05:24] <eastcoast0> danke
[05:24] <eastcoast0> (thanks)
[05:24] <shane2peru> DeathFox: that is causing the blackouts or increase your memory may help
[05:24] <DeathFox> 2gb of ram isent enough?
[05:24] <DeathFox> its going black cause my pc is idle
[05:24] <shane2peru> DeathFox: hmm, I would think it should
[05:24] <DeathFox> it fades to black till i move my mouse
[05:24] <eross> in ubuntu, why does netbeans show java 1.6, but java --version shows "1.5.0"  ?
[05:25] <shane2peru> DeathFox: ohh, that is screensaver
[05:25] <DeathFox> how do i disable that
[05:25] <DeathFox> i found it
[05:25] <DeathFox> thanks
[05:25] <Balsaq> shane2peru; should i install it even though it appears it is for ati radeon stuff and iam atixpert?
[05:25] <shane2peru> Balsaq: no, better not, I may have gotten the command wrong, one second
[05:26] <Balsaq> i think not cause iread the article on here about the fglrx thing...shae2peru
[05:26] <losher> DeathFox: sounds like either screensaver or power management. Both are configurable for gnome, but don't ask me how...
[05:26] <shane2peru> Balsaq: fglrxinfo | grep render
[05:26] <Balsaq> shane2peru seems like yur on the money...but ok lets see
[05:27] <shane2peru> Balsaq: type shan and hit tab to complete my name and avoid typos. :)
[05:27] <Lartza_> Ok I got sound to work
[05:27] <Balsaq> ok i didnt have a space in ther try again shane2peru
[05:27] <Lartza_> I noticed everything on System > Sound > Sounds Is grayed
[05:27] <Lartza_> Sound effects that play on events ands tuff
[05:27] <Balsaq> lost me with theat last one
[05:28] <Lartza_> What packages for sound effects?
[05:28] <shane2peru> Balsaq: ok, don't worry about it
[05:28] <Balsaq> ill just do it right
[05:28] <shane2peru> Balsaq: fglrxinfo | grep render
[05:28] <frewsxcv> how do you convert from flac to alac on linux
[05:29] <shane2peru> Balsaq: ok, gotta run, it is late keep working at it, someone here can help you.
[05:29] <Balsaq> shane2peru not installed again same message
[05:30] <shane2peru> Balsaq: I'm not sure then what your card is using, I'm not that great at legacy ati stuff
[05:30] <Balsaq> so the computer knew i mistyped it
[05:30] <shane2peru> Balsaq: no, doesn't sound like you are using fglrx
[05:31] <Balsaq> just no drivers for it in 904 i guess
[05:31] <shane2peru> Balsaq: which I thought all ati used fglrx, but the olders ones may not, I'm not really sure
[05:31] <jjrev> Balsaq: what vid card is this?
[05:31] <Balsaq> shane2peru: began thinking i should go in backwards, find out what ubuntu likes and has drivers for and go get it
[05:31] <shane2peru> Balsaq: but it isn't your sys monitor that is causing the problems
[05:31] <Lartza_> How do I get my event sounds to work?
[05:32] <losher> frewsxcv: there is a flac package which will decode flac to various formats. I've never heard of alac though...
[05:32] <Lartza_> Login sound etc.
[05:32] <shane2peru> Balsaq: that would probably be what I would recommend
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> frewsxcv, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310647&page=2 someones got something working under wine
[05:32] <frewsxcv> losher, Apple Lossless
[05:32] <shane2peru> jjrev: he is a complete computer noob
[05:32] <Balsaq> shane2peru; dunno just asked why my cpu is at 50 percent just for the gnome syst monitor
[05:32] <Balsaq> seems like a lot of power for gnome sys monitor
[05:32] <jjrev> shane2peru: what is his issue?
[05:33] <shane2peru> Balsaq: right, I don't think it is that though, not sure
[05:33] <shane2peru> jjrev: a lot of cpu usage
[05:33] <Balsaq> notiproblem..noticed system monitor and FF combine to use 100 percent of my cpu!
[05:33] <shane2peru> jjrev: could be sys monitor bug, but I doubt it, I always use sys monitor, and never have a prob
[05:33] <jjrev> shane2peru: hm, has he tried 'top' ??
[05:33] <Balsaq> decided maybe i dont need gnome system monitor
[05:33] <puting> hi
[05:34] <losher> frewsxcv: great. Another propietary format. Looks like you may have to decode to wav using flac and then encode using dbpoweramp under wine. Quite a mess...
[05:34] <puting> 안녕하세요
[05:34] <Bluey> hello
[05:34] <puting> hello
[05:34] <shane2peru> jjrev: he had a hard time finding the terminal, and couldn't copy and paste commands
[05:34] <Balsaq> asked the question on here shane2peru mentioned it may be my ati
[05:34] <puting> ok
[05:34] <Bluey> looks korean but not sure...
[05:34] <losher> !ko | puting
[05:34] <shane2peru> Balsaq: jjrev can probably help you,
[05:34] <leaf-sheep> Looks English on second one.
[05:34] <miranda_> Hi.  apt-get fails to resolv hostnames, but ping does resolv them.  How can I fix this? thanks
[05:34] <Balsaq> so realy i just want to disable gnome system monitoThanks shane2peru!
[05:35] <jjrev> shane2peru: i almost hate to say try another distro, but Mint is top notch for beginners
[05:35] <shane2peru> jjrev: I think it is something else eating cpu, but we didn't get far
[05:35] <Keiya> Is it safe to remove packages like nvidia-180-modaliases and fglrx-modaliases and nvidia-common if I don't have an ATI or nViia card?
[05:35] <shane2peru> jjrev: gotta run, catch you all later
[05:35] <thiebaude> Balsaq, did you check the processes to see whats using soo much cpu?
[05:35] <Balsaq> 1. gnome system monitor take 37-50% of my little CPU-is it prudent and wise to disable it?
[05:35] <Keiya> Bluey: It's korean. The circles are the givaway.
[05:35] <shane2peru> jjrev: he has an older ati card, my hunch is ati probs
[05:36] <jjrev> Balsaq: have you run the 'top' program?
[05:36] <Balsaq> YES IT IS ff ABD SYST MON
[05:36] <Balsaq> oops sorry
[05:36] <jjrev> shane2peru: thanks, i'll have a go at it
[05:36] <Balsaq> hit caps mistake
[05:36] <Balsaq> thanks shane
[05:36] <shane2peru> Balsaq: jjrev can help you get it fixed
[05:36] <Bluey> Keiya -- wasn't sure - I prolly haven't seen any korean writing in several decades
[05:36] <Balsaq> let me go slow and spell itout..for those trying
[05:36] <corigo3> When I run sudo chmod 777 will it apply to all users? I don't see any change in permissions at the user level...
[05:37] <Balsaq> may not be broke may be old cpu with lil power i dunno...here goes
[05:37] <Keiya> Of course, with han unification... :/
[05:37] <AkeJay02> Hi all. Anyone able to assist me in understanding how the file arrangement in Ubuntu works? It's like the one thing I haven't been able to get used to.
[05:37] <foul_owl> anyone know how to fix the broken packages error message in apt
[05:37] <Keiya> Tht gets in the way of language identification, doesn't it? :P
[05:37] <Bluey> corigo3 -- if your intent is to allow all users to do anything they wish yes, but it only applies to the files you are changing
[05:37] <LuYu> i need help with an upgrade
[05:37] <leaf-sheep> !filesystem | AkeJay02
[05:38] <ZykoticK9> AkeJay02, "most" of the filesystem layout is based on Unix conventions /bin /etc /var etc...  Do you have a specific question?
[05:38] <Balsaq> noticed cpu is at 100%load with only FF and system  monitor running, turned of FF and only had systen monitor runnung and it uses 37-50percent of my freeakin CPU can i disable it without getting rid of it?
[05:38] <LuYu> i remotely upgraded a computer from 8.04 to 9.04 and now X won't start
[05:38] <jjrev> Balsaq: can you open a terminal?
[05:38] <LuYu> from the logs, X appears to not be detecting the USB keyboard and mouse
[05:38] <Balsaq> ok.......
[05:39] <LuYu> the user cannot open a terminal
[05:39] <LuYu> but i can ssh in
[05:39] <Balsaq> what do i type in jjrev
[05:39] <corigo3> Bluey: after I run the sudo chmod all the permissions are updated, but from Krusader when I check the file permissions the change only happened for "owner" which is root.... so I still have no access at the user level
[05:39] <LuYu> there is no input at all
[05:39] <jjrev> Balsaq: 'top'
[05:39] <Balsaq> its the dadgum syst monitor
[05:39] <Balsaq> uses a ton of my lil CPU
[05:39] <Balsaq> can iturn it off without losing it?
[05:40] <Bluey> corigo3 privite message ok?
[05:40] <Balsaq> looks like i can uncheck it but will it go away forever if ido that
[05:40] <corigo3> ok
[05:40] <jjrev> Balsaq: no
[05:40] <ZykoticK9> Balsaq, gkrellm is a "lightweight" system monitor or conky seems quite popular
[05:40] <LuYu> does anybody know what might be causing X to suddenly be unable to detect the mouse and keyboard?
[05:40] <jjrev> Balsaq: open a terminal and type 'top' and see who is using so much CPU
[05:41] <jjrev> Balsaq: what cpu are you running?
[05:41] <LuYu> the computer in question does not even have PS/2 plugs, by the way
[05:41] <Balsaq> jjrev: so...i will uncheck it/disable it, but it will still be there if  ilook for it and re-check it for later use?
[05:41] <Balsaq> it is my GD sys mon
[05:41] <thiebaude> jjrev, top is a good suggestion
[05:41] <jjrev> Balsaq: i don't understand what you're asking
[05:41] <Balsaq> and my tiny 400mgz
[05:41] <jjrev> Balsaq: lol
[05:42]  * thiebaude no wonder
[05:42] <jjrev> Balsaq: my phone is faster than that thing ;)
[05:42] <Balsaq> that lil bugger ucks some juice huh
[05:42] <losher> Balsaq: it's eye candy. You don't need it. Just stop running it...
[05:42] <blunder> ok guys
[05:42] <elvtars> Balsaq: it will not go away if you uncheck it...
[05:42] <Balsaq> jjrev: but i dont want to lose it?
[05:42] <blunder> sheesh
[05:42] <Balsaq> wheh thank you elvtars!
[05:43] <jjrev> Balsaq: you might try a lighter weight distribution
[05:43] <wawan> hallo
[05:43] <Balsaq> i not only want it to stay...i want to see it in ther FOREVER i the add remove panel with the box ready to be checked...ok?
[05:43] <donnybrasco> hi, can anyone tell me where to find my icons in hardy?
[05:44] <Balsaq> someone said " i can alway reinstall it later...dont want that
[05:44] <losher> donnybrasco: anything in /usr/share/icons ?
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> donnybrasco, /usr/share/pixmaps ???
[05:44] <RPG_Master> Why does OOo make svg graphics look like butt?
[05:44] <jjrev> Balsaq: with a 400MHz CPU you will be struggling to do a lot of things..
[05:44] <Balsaq> yup but she does it
[05:44] <elvtars> Balsaq: you can turn it off and turn it back on later
[05:45] <losher> Balsaq: I agree with jjrev. Consider a distro designed for old, slow, tiny boxes...
[05:45] <foul_owl> hardware drivers enabling nvidia hangs
[05:45] <Balsaq> even spoke to dell online while on here at once
[05:45] <jjrev> Balsaq: that machine is suited for a very light weight distribution, perhaps DSL or something along those lines
[05:45] <Balsaq> i know but at this point i am too flippin dumb and new at open source to do iti did order puppy and xubu
[05:45] <donnybrasco> losher: thanks :)
[05:46] <losher> donnybrasco: first thank you of the evening, you're very welcome!
[05:46] <jjrev> Balsaq: look into linux mint fluxbox edition
[05:46] <Balsaq> i think if i uncheck the thren monitor i will have 50 percent more juice
[05:46] <jbk_> hi
[05:46] <elvtars> Balsaq: puppylinux is a easy, works if you have 128 MB of ram
[05:46] <AkeJay02> Thanks for the link about the filetree with Ubuntu. It makes a bit more sense now, but it is definitely one thing I don't like as much as Windoze. Is there a reason for it's complexity?
[05:46] <Balsaq> tried to boot it wont do it iam am too new yet
[05:47] <jjrev> AkeJay02: no reason really, its how linux has evolved
[05:47] <jbk_> to setup default kde fonts do i need to install  kdebase-workspace-bin ?
[05:47] <jjrev> AkeJay02: whoever wrote all the software decided that was the best way to organize things
[05:47] <Balsaq> i have another puter coming in to experiment on...dell business computer will wipe it clean and put in puppy or linux mint or xubuntu
[05:47] <losher> AkeJay02: I'm not sure it's any more complex than windows. Just different...
[05:47] <jbk_> (eg: when i run k3b, the fonts on the menu look different than my gnome apps-- i'm using the gnome desktop)
[05:47] <jbk_> ..
[05:47] <jbk_> ?
[05:47] <jjrev> Balsaq: i recommend Mint highly
[05:48] <jjrev> Balsaq: great for beginners
[05:48] <Balsaq> i heard mnt is set up with lots of stuff to play online vids which iwant
[05:48] <jbk_> ?
[05:48] <AkeJay02> I guess it only makes sense that the file layout would be different as well. But whenever I've needed to do something in the Windoze system, it was no complex task. But I find myself searching for help online to make small changes in Ubuntu.
[05:48] <jbk_> Balsaq, ?
[05:48] <losher> jbk_: I would expect that. It's a kde app. It'll run fine, it just won't look the same...
[05:48] <jjrev> Balsaq: yes, its the most feature complete distribution 'out of the box'
[05:48] <Balsaq> hi jbk
[05:48] <jbk_> losher, well u can set the fonts with kcontrol..
[05:48] <Balsaq> jjrev: who knew?
[05:49] <tehbaut> anyone know what kernel line to use in grub for usb installer?
[05:49] <jbk_> losher, kdebase-workspace-bin should hold kcontrol as its replacement pacakge..
[05:49] <jbk_> losher, its juts 300+ meg to inst for kcontrol
[05:49]  * jbk_ goes ahead with apt-get
[05:49] <Balsaq> but i do have puppy here now on a disc and xubuntu on a disc bougfht them
[05:49] <losher> jbk_: thanks, but I don't run gnome or kde. And I'm not even sure I'd notice the fonts...
[05:49] <jjrev> Balsaq: and it's based on ubuntu so a lot of ubuntu help topics will carry over
[05:49] <jbk_> losher, well then.. u dont know then..
[05:49] <Lartza_> Is ubuntu keyserver down?
[05:49] <Balsaq> so how can allthat be lighter than ubuntu
[05:50] <Balsaq> jbk: then q in balsaq is silent....like (balsa)
[05:50] <jjrev> AkeJay02: its only complex because you're unfamiliar with it.  the more you use linux, the easier it gets
[05:51] <Balsaq> jjrev: how can i system like that be lighter on the cpu than the ubuntu?
[05:51] <thiebaude> Balsaq, it doesn't use alot of processes
[05:51] <Lartza_> NOw I need help. Ican't GPG from keyserver.ubuntu.com nor subkeys.pgp.net
[05:51] <Balsaq> oh hi thiebaude
[05:51] <thiebaude> Balsaq, hi
[05:51] <jbk_> Lartza_, No or now ?
[05:51] <Balsaq> i know have 3 bubtu discs!
[05:52] <losher> Balsaq: because some systems are expressly designed to be lightweight. Ubuntu isn't...
[05:52] <jjrev> Balsaq: try "SLAX", its very lightweight but not as feature complete as Ubuntu
[05:52] <Balsaq> guess ill get that one too
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> Lartza_, you can try pool.sks-keyservers.net -- serveral people have been have keyserver problem and this was recommended to them by someone
[05:52] <Lartza_> Now
[05:52] <jbk_> Balsaq, yah dont really need that many discs
[05:52] <Balsaq> but  i need plug and play like ubuntu
[05:52] <thiebaude> Balsaq, or try fluxbuntu, openbox, etc
[05:52] <Balsaq> no fiddledikin round here
[05:52] <Lartza_> ZykoticK9: Does using another keyserver have any effects?
[05:52] <dethaddr> OMG! ARRRGHH
[05:52] <jjrev> Balsaq: fluxbuntu would probably work better
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> Lartza_, no idea man!
[05:52] <dethaddr> now that i got d2 installed and running. i cant figure out how to make it go full screen
[05:53] <Balsaq> i dont have a burner and i buy em for 3 dollars
[05:53] <thiebaude> jjrev, i agree
[05:53] <dethaddr> i hate wine
[05:53] <Lartza_> NOw ubuntu keyserver started to work, for now
[05:53] <losher> Lartza_: it shouldn't....
[05:53] <jjrev> Balsaq: gnome is probably a little too much for your very old cpu
[05:53] <dethaddr> i blame windows
[05:53] <Bluey> dethaddr -- it works (sometimes)
[05:53] <Balsaq> why so many flliipn bubtus ?
[05:53] <jbk_> gosh
[05:53] <jbk_> u guys help nobody
[05:53] <jbk_> helpless
[05:53] <jbk_> people
[05:53] <ZykoticK9> dethaddr, what's "d2"?
[05:53] <thiebaude> jbk_, go away
[05:54] <Balsaq> whoah he;s psssd
[05:54] <dethaddr> ZykoticK9: diablo 2 lord of destruction
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> dethaddr, ahhh sorry I'm no help (was wondering if it meant Doom2)
[05:54] <Balsaq> heck ive been tryin for 5 days to get my utube vids to play faster and i aint bichen
[05:55] <jjrev> Balsaq: ubuntu will behave better when you get a better computer
[05:55] <Lartza_> Got every key except still one
[05:55] <Balsaq> yup cant wait got a 1gig cpu coming
[05:55] <Balsaq> with ddr instead of sdram
[05:55] <jjrev> Balsaq: that's not really that powerful either
[05:55] <jetscreamer> xine-plugin mplayer-plugin vlc-plugin
[05:55] <Balsaq> well if ican do it with 400mgz
[05:55] <jjrev> Balsaq: wow dude, ancient technology ;)
[05:56] <Lartza_> Now got all. THe keyservers worked, stopped wotrking and worked again :S
[05:56] <Keiya> According to vrms, the non-free packages installed now are: linux-generic, linux-restricted-modules-common, linux-restricted-modules-generic, tangerine-icon-theme
[05:56] <Keiya> Two of those are metapackages, and not for the other two
[05:56] <Keiya> ... Weird.
[05:56] <Balsaq> well they give them too me free...getting several this time and some are prolly gonna be int 1.2-2.0 range
[05:56] <Balsaq> business puters
[05:56] <Keiya> (And tangerine is a quirk of the DFSG)
[05:56] <Balsaq> the yrun xp pro fast
[05:57] <Lartza_> when will apt-get timeout on update?
[05:57] <losher> Balsaq: so run xp pro. It's not a crime...
[05:57] <Spoom> hi folks, has anyone here managed to get compiz running on an intel 82845g/gl adapter?  i've tried just about everything now and only get a frozen desktop upon running compiz --replace and/or changing the desktop effects setting; i've gone through every type (safe, optimal, bleeding edge) of the intel performance guide on the forums, but still no dice.  am i just chasing something that simply won't work?
[05:57] <Lartza_> Nvm it got through to the server
[05:57] <jjrev> Balsaq: you should build a cloud/cluster with all those bad boys then get a laptop to interface with it :D
[05:58] <Balsaq> well they wipe em clean befor ethay give them away
[05:58] <Keiya> Why is linux-generic in restricted?
[05:58] <Balsaq> and i will learn this if itmkills me ithinks windows blows
[05:58] <soreau> Spoom: Can you pastebin your X log file? (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[05:58] <Spoom> i've enabled jaunty-proposed and backports which updated mesa but still nothing
[05:58] <Spoom> sure, one sec
[05:58] <Spoom> you guys have a preferred bin?
[05:59] <Balsaq> this puter ran w98 for 11 years and couldnt get out of its own way even new...so ihate wqindows
[05:59] <soreau> ! pastebin | Spoom
[05:59] <ZykoticK9> Spoom did you try https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/296833/comments/8
[06:00] <tehbaut> anyone know what kernel line to use in grub for usb installer?
[06:00]  * TheCheeze away: sleep
[06:00] <Balsaq> bought a new vista puter...had 2.3 quad core amd, 6ram and it froze up like an icebeg onthe 12thday
[06:00] <Balsaq> took it back
[06:00] <Spoom> soreau, http://paste.ubuntu.com/282714/
[06:00] <jjrev> Balsaq: you should have installed linux
[06:00] <Balsaq> didnt know linux then
[06:01] <Balsaq> happened around christmas
[06:01] <Spoom> ZykoticK9, i believe i have tried that, which got compiz kinda working only windows wouldn't paint correctly upon being moved or resized
[06:01] <Spoom> i'll try it again with the proposed drivers though
[06:01] <Balsaq> now i wish ihad it back i stole it onsale 599...HP 22in monitor too
[06:01] <soreau> pipe stuff
[06:01] <soreau> Spoom: Try EXA acceleration
[06:02] <prince_jammys> Keiya: it's a metapackage that depends on linux-restricted-modules-generic
[06:02] <jjrev> Balsaq: you should pick one of those up and load it up with Mint or something
[06:02] <Balsaq> but that fricker froze like 2 mile run lake in january
[06:02] <GSF1200S> anyone know anything about ssh and iptables?
[06:02] <Balsaq> some of the new stuff is junk
[06:02] <GSF1200S> I cannot get iptables to allow an ssh connection
[06:02] <Spoom> i'll try XAA again first and then exa
[06:02] <Balsaq> i cant kill this old one...original fan and all
[06:02] <Spoom> thanks for the suggestions guys, will require a couple X restarts
[06:02] <GSF1200S> if i disable iptables the connection works fine
[06:03] <Balsaq> has a big heat sink on it
[06:03] <Balsaq> and is almost silent after 1 years
[06:03] <Balsaq> 11 years
[06:03] <elvtars> Balsaq: what brand is it?
[06:03] <Spoom> hmm, ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work?
[06:03] <Balsaq> dell dim XPS r400
[06:03]  * Spoom switches and does a gdm restart instead
[06:04] <Balsaq> has big altec sub woofer and great sound
[06:04] <soreau> Spoom: If xaa works, I have a fix that will help redraw the windows
[06:04] <Balsaq> cost me 2700 1 years ago...now the stuff id 600 bucks/
[06:04] <Balsaq> 11 yago'
[06:04] <elvtars> Balsaq: just run as few prcesses as possible
[06:04] <Keiya> why is that even installed, anyway? None of the 'actual' restricted module packages are?
[06:05] <alazyworkaholic> My netbook's bricked. I'm using a liveusb but when I try to mount the sdd I'm asked for the password. How would I know what that is for a livecd session?
[06:05] <Balsaq> we have a g4 too upstairs lapper
[06:05] <Ximbinha> I AM A FOSS USER. I USE ADOBE FLASH PLUGIN TO WATCH VIDEOS IN YOUTUBE. I HAVE A DUAL BOOT WINDOWS SYSTEM TO PLAY. I TRIED 3 NEW PRINTERS AND 4 NEW WIFI CARDS TO GET THIS WORKING WITH LINUX USING DRIVERS THAT DON'T WORK. BUT I KEEP SAYING THAT IT'S BETTER THAN WINDOWS. FORGIVE ME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I SAY.
[06:06] <jetscreamer> btw he's a troll in #linux i assume he's a troll in here also
[06:06] <Balsaq> yup[ its s way beter than windows
[06:06] <prince_jammys> yeah, known troll. ignore.
[06:06] <mnaines> Who is a troll?
[06:06] <jetscreamer> Ximbinha
[06:06] <prince_jammys> sigh.
[06:06] <Balsaq> windows is like a virus
[06:06] <phantom878> i want to change ICON for a program whos Shortcut i created in the Applications menu, what type of image do i need? svg?
[06:06] <mnaines> I'm surprised the ops don't do anything to the trolls
[06:06] <Ximbinha> Being a troll or not doesn't make those statements false.
[06:07] <Balsaq> had to manually monitor my registry all the time
[06:07]  * mnaines always ignores those who type in all caps
[06:07] <phantom878> who typed in caps?
[06:07]  * mnaines absolutely hates attention-seekers
[06:08]  * phantom878 whocares?
[06:08] <mnaines> phantom878: Ximbinha did...He's a known troll
[06:08] <prince_jammys> sigh.
[06:08] <Balsaq> if your good at guardin your registry i guess windows is ok...
[06:08] <gladiator> hi .. does anyone know if skype video works with ubuntu? im running skype 2.1 and ubuntu 9.04 ... how lsusb shows my webcam .. but i am not sure if its working properly
[06:08] <phantom878> he did what?
[06:08] <phantom878> gladiator, it does
[06:08] <mnaines> phantom878: Scroll up
[06:08] <soreau> ! webcam | gladiator
[06:09] <mnaines> phantom878: (12:06:05 AM) Ximbinha: I AM A FOSS USER. I USE ADOBE FLASH PLUGIN TO WATCH VIDEOS IN YOUTUBE. I HAVE A DUAL BOOT WINDOWS SYSTEM TO PLAY. I TRIED 3 NEW PRINTERS AND 4 NEW WIFI CARDS TO GET THIS WORKING WITH LINUX USING DRIVERS THAT DON'T WORK. BUT I KEEP SAYING THAT IT'S BETTER THAN WINDOWS. FORGIVE ME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I SAY.
[06:09] <phantom878> how does that answer my question?
[06:09] <lstarnes> mnaines: please refrain from copying such messages
[06:09] <soreau> indeed
[06:09] <gladiator> phantom878: how can i test drive my webcam .. any software / gui interface to capture video etc?
[06:09] <prince_jammys> give him some more attention, why don't you.
[06:09] <phantom878> i want to change ICON for a program whos Shortcut i created in the Applications menu, what type of image do i need? svg?
[06:09] <soreau> :P
[06:10] <mnaines> lstarnes: Forgive me, but phantom asked what the guy did
[06:10] <ZykoticK9> phantom878, png should work
[06:10] <alazyworkaholic> gladiator: lookup cheese in add/remove
[06:10] <lstarnes> mnaines: there is such a thing as a private message
[06:10] <Balsaq> hey just wipe the hard drive clean of windows dude...like ole uncle Balsaq!!!
[06:10] <phantom878> weird, i downloaded a few and none, let me check again
[06:10] <Ximbinha> SKYPE DOESN'T WORKS WITH UBUNTU STUPID.
[06:10] <Ximbinha> LAIRS
[06:10] <soreau> phantom878: Just right click on it and go to properties. Change the icon there
[06:10] <Balsaq> windows is the virus of all virus'
[06:10] <Ximbinha> TRY ADD SOMEONE IN SKYPE TO SEE>
[06:10] <soreau> Ximbinha: Bye
[06:10] <mnaines> Ximbinha: Odd...Skype works fine for me
[06:10] <phantom878> Ximbinha, stupid, read and learn from skype.com
[06:11] <phantom878> it does i installed it TOday!
[06:11] <Balsaq> windows is kinda like VD....
[06:11] <lstarnes> Ximbinha: your use of caps is disrupting this channel
[06:11] <Ximbinha> Try add and accept someone there.
[06:11] <HBX^> skype works fine in ubuntu
[06:11] <mnaines> Ximbinha: Skype has a Debian package available for Ubuntu, and it works just fine
[06:11] <Ximbinha> Obviously not.
[06:11] <phantom878> gladiator, just plug it in, and then open skype and setup ccaam
[06:11] <ZykoticK9> my VirtualBox crashed and I have two " [VirtualBox] <defunct>" listed in "ps aux | grep Virtual" but kill and kill -9 doesn't kill them -- anyone have another suggestion?
[06:11] <Ximbinha> I know, but you can't add anyone.
[06:11] <Balsaq> Ximbinha: if it don't worj with ubuntu you don;t want it
[06:11] <mnaines> Ximbinha: Yes, you can
[06:12]  * prince_jammys wonders what part of "Troll" you don't grasp.
[06:12] <gladiator> phantom878: its plugged in.. i have a laptop
[06:12] <Ximbinha> Balsaq, does it works or not, at least?
[06:12] <gladiator> skype doesnt show any video options .. :S
[06:12] <jetscreamer> omg no caps!!!
[06:12] <Ximbinha> gladiator, you will never see your friends online
[06:12] <phantom878> read and search google
[06:12] <phantom878> im off to bed
[06:12] <phantom878> gn
[06:12] <Sakara> Trying to have centralised logins for ubuntu workstations. Everyone tells me openldap. But there must be more
[06:12] <Balsaq> ubuntu is the best dud i amnew but it the best OS in the world...if it dont run with ubuntu get rid of it
[06:12] <Ximbinha> phantom878, I did it retard
[06:12] <losher> ZykoticK9: certain processes can't be killed until the parent which created them collects their status. run ps axf to see if you can see their parent process...
[06:12] <mnaines> Ximbinha: It works fine for everyone else in this room...And there is an icon on the bottom of the skype main window that shortcuts to the add a contact wizard
[06:13] <IdleOne> Ximbinha: please stop insulting people
[06:13] <Ximbinha> mnaines, this doesn't works.
[06:13]  * soreau is surprised Ximbinha is still here
[06:13] <Ximbinha> I am one person here.
[06:13] <kandinski> my calendar starts the week on sunday, and I would like for it to start on monday, how can I do that? I am on Gnome on Ubuntu 9.04
[06:13] <gladiator> ximbinha: what?
[06:13] <Ximbinha> Gladiator is another
[06:13] <phantom878> Ximbinha, noobhead
[06:13]  * jetscreamer is suprised jetscreamer is still here
[06:13] <alazyworkaholic> I have an ssd netbook. I installed 9.10 A6 & have had a hell of a lot of filesystem corruption. I've had to run fsck, e2fsck 3 times in the last 2 weeks. Any advice?
[06:13] <kandinski> hi jetscreamer
[06:13] <jetscreamer> hey dude :)
[06:14] <jbutera> lol Ximbinha, you troll everywhere?
[06:14] <jetscreamer> i don't usually type in here :)
[06:14] <mnaines> Ximbinha: Go down where it says "Call Phones or SMS" on the main window of Skype...Right below that you will see a green circle with a plus and a person icon...That is the Add a Contact button
[06:14] <losher> alazyworkaholic: move to 8.04...
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> losher, thanks "ps axf" didn't know that one -- VERY cool!!!
[06:14] <lstarnes> alazyworkaholic: #ubuntu+1 is currently designated as the channel for ubuntu 9.10
[06:14] <soreau> alazyworkaholic: How are you shutting down the machine?
[06:14] <Ximbinha> mnaines, this works for adding but you wouldn't see anyone online.
[06:14] <Ximbinha> ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME?
[06:14] <prince_jammys> !ops | Ximbinha : troll, likes to cause disturbance for fun, has done so in the past.
[06:14] <IdleOne> !caps | Ximbinha
[06:15] <Twelve> hi...anyone here running puppy linux?
[06:15] <mnaines> Ximbinha: Because its just like adding a person in instant messenger...They also have to add you to their list before you can see them online...When you add someone that way, it sends them a message asking if they want to accept the add invite...They have to accept it before you can see them online
[06:15] <kandinski> also another question: I plugged in my wacom into my Jaunty machine, and it Just Works, but I can't find a control panel for configuring it
[06:15] <Ximbinha> mnaines, I know
[06:15] <soreau> Twelve: This is a channel for ubuntu, not any other distro of linux
[06:16] <Ximbinha> And this doesn't works
[06:16] <bucky> sudo ping -f 201.47.12.56
[06:16] <elvtars> Twelve: try #puppylinux
[06:16] <Twelve> haha
[06:16] <Balsaq> ximbinhu: i know how you fell, i once felt the same way, relax, drink some warm milk, take a god dumper, and wipe windows right off yur hard drive forever...if it don't run in buntu you don't need it!!!
[06:16] <Twelve> thanks elvtars
[06:16] <mnaines> Ximbinha: Probably because they haven't accepted your add invite perhaps?
[06:16] <alazyworkaholic> losher: I'd love to, but it was crippled even under 8.10.
[06:16] <Ximbinha> mnaines, no!
[06:16] <nostalgicBadger> does ubuntu install a .bashrc that would take precedent over the one in ~ ? the aliases i'm adding to the one at ~/.bashrc don't seem to be active
[06:16] <kandinski> ubottu: !wacom
[06:16] <jbutera> alazyworkaholic: your nick seems to be contradictory
[06:17] <alazyworkaholic> soreau: Either normally, of sometimes with sudo poweroff now.
[06:17] <Bluey> okay time for some geekdom -- HAK5 -- ttyl
[06:17] <lstarnes> nostalgicBadger: check /etc/profile and /etc/bash.bashrc
[06:17] <soreau> alazyworkaholic: Try always using the 'normal' way
[06:17] <lstarnes> nostalgicBadger: ~/.bashrc usually takes precedence
[06:17] <prince_jammys> nostalgicBadger: how are you logging in?
[06:17] <losher> alazyworkaholic: ok, but 9.10 isn't even *claimed* to be stable. Ask on #ubuntu+1
[06:17] <mnaines> Ximbinha: I am going to say the same thing everyone else is saying...If it doesn't work, then don't use it...That should be a no-brainer
[06:17] <gladiator> phantom878: thanks got video working
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> nostalgicBadger, did you restart bash after making the change (ie type "bash")
[06:18] <Ximbinha> mnaines, DON'T LIE TO PEOPLE
[06:18] <soreau> alazyworkaholic: Also, it will check the file system automatically every ~30 or so times it's mounted, so if you reboot a lot it will check the fs more often
[06:18] <nostalgicBadger> let me test again
[06:18] <IdleOne> Ximbinha: stop acting like a child
[06:18] <mnaines> Ximbinha: What am I lying about?
[06:18] <Ximbinha> about skype working in ubuntu
[06:18] <Ximbinha> It doesn't and you know
[06:18] <mnaines> Ximbinha: It is working fine for me...
[06:18] <lstarnes> Ximbinha: does skype's website have a form for filing a bug report?
[06:18] <jussi01> Ximbinha: please, keep to the issue at hand, and relax on the caps.
[06:18] <Balsaq> if it don't run on buntu who needs it...release the poisen X....take a dump and then wipe windows right off yur dadgum HD
[06:18] <mnaines> Ximbinha: I have not had any problems with using Skype in Ubuntu
[06:18] <kandinski> Ximbinha: I use skype on ubuntu with no problem
[06:18] <lstarnes> Ximbinha: that's skype's fault, not ubuntu's
[06:18] <HBX^> if you cant figure skype out let alone ubuntu u shouldnt be using linux period...go back to wintendo...
[06:19] <alazyworkaholic> soreau: any reason to believe poweroff now turns off the computer before it's ready?
[06:19] <lorenzo> hi, all of a sudden vlc and totem wont open files correctly...i get errors saying that the format is not supported by vlc, even for mp3s which i have always been able to play and still can open in rhythmbox. i am confused. any suggestions? thanks
[06:19] <gladiator> ximbinha: wanna webcam on skype?
[06:19] <IdleOne> Balsaq: enough with the dumping please
[06:19] <Ximbinha> lstarnes telling that it doesn't works
[06:19] <gladiator> i just made it to work :)
[06:19] <soreau> alazyworkaholic: If nothing else, use shutdown -h now
[06:19] <Balsaq> 10-4 boss
[06:19] <soreau> alazyworkaholic: I am not familiar with 'poweroff'
[06:19] <GSF1200S> ximbinh: just use windows then
[06:19] <Ximbinha> GSF1200S, windows is better
[06:19] <Ximbinha> obviously
[06:19] <jbutera> windows 7 is nice :)
[06:20] <IdleOne> Balsaq: I'm no boss
[06:20] <Ximbinha> skype owkrs in windows
[06:20] <lstarnes> Ximbinha: that is largely subjective
[06:20] <gladiator> Ximbinha: and in ubuntu also :P
[06:20] <Balsaq> (never saw i guy act like that here...i got tons of prob's here?)
[06:20] <nostalgicBadger> huh. it's working now. thanks
[06:20] <HBX^> skype works fuckin fine in ubuntu your just a FUCKIN TARD!!
[06:20] <GSF1200S> ximbinha- if thats how you feel then why not use it?
[06:20] <Balsaq> can't get some fixed
[06:20] <jussi01> HBX^: language please
[06:20] <cryptor3> ok, so it doesn't work
[06:20] <cryptor3> now what?
[06:20] <IdleOne> !language
[06:21] <mnaines> jussi01: Where were you, man?
[06:21] <Out_Cold> skype has known sound issues in ubuntu
[06:21] <cryptor3> I haven't heard ximbinha ask a question in the last 5 minutes
[06:21]  * mnaines has never had audio or video problems with Skype in Ubuntu
[06:21] <lstarnes> cryptor3: he has been removed
[06:21] <GSF1200S> Ximbinha is just a troll
[06:21] <prince_jammys> o.m.g.
[06:21] <jussi01> mnaines: Ive been watching. but we dont kick on first offence, its also your job to try to catalyse and calm.
[06:21] <jbutera> hi.. how can i lgoin remotely to a new gnome session? i tried vnc4server with xinetd, and it tries to work, but vnc4server seems broken
[06:21] <GSF1200S> ive been accused of being one
[06:22] <cryptor3> ah ok.  I figured it was gonna happen right after whoever called in for backup
[06:22] <jussi01> Lets move on shall we?
[06:22] <mnaines> jussi01: My policy is respect has to be earned...I follow the golden rule - "Do unto others"
[06:22] <jbutera> yes, to remote gnome login
[06:22] <Out_Cold> mnaines, there is a bug where you can configure sound in skype, but it stops all other sound from working until you reset alsa
[06:22] <GSF1200S> indeed, moveon
[06:22] <realone> In my opinion, gay sex is a lot hotter than straight sex. You are now imagining yourself being fucked as a trap while sitting in someone's lap, facing them. You give out little moans and whimpers as you desperately force yourself to ride him, pulling yourself up and down his cock as fast as you can manage. Your feminine features are flushed red with embarrassment because your stiff, hefty prick is bouncing off his stomach with every thr
[06:22] <realone> ust, but he is holding your hands back, preventing you from hiding it or jacking yourself off. Just as he begin to climax, you slam your hips down as deeply as you can, squeezing like a vice around him and moaning wildly. As he continues to fill you with his cum, you begin spraying his stomach and chest with your own virile but useless seed, your hips desperately bucking with every spurt. After his orgasms subside, he releases your arms
[06:22] <mnaines> Out_Cold: odd...It hasn't given me that problem before
[06:22] <jbutera> that's nice
[06:22] <realone>  and grab your hips, grinding his still-hard but sated dick deeply into you, and he tells you that he won't pull it out until you clean up the mess you made. You begin straining forward, using you tongue to lap up the warm cum you plastered across his stomach. By the time you are done, you are both already hard again. sorry if this is long, it took me a long time to write o.o i hope u enjoied reading it.
[06:23] <prince_jammys> jussi01: realone :
[06:23] <mrlexx> hi guys i need some help with jaunty
[06:23] <IdleOne> must be a full moon tonight
[06:23] <IdleOne> ask away mrlexx
[06:23] <alazyworkaholic> soreau: I'm looking up halt vs shutdown vs poweroff & read that "shutdown runs the shutdown scripts (in rc0) [whatever that means] to gracefully terminate all running processes (databases and other ncie things)" Do you understand shutdown scripts or rc0?
[06:23] <dethaddr> how do i tell firefox to save the downloads in a folder on the desktop instead of just on it
[06:23] <jbutera> so any ideas on remote gnome logins? :( or how to make vnc4server not crash?
[06:23] <mnaines> IdleOne: Nope...Scientists did a study and found the moon has nothing to do with people going crazy
[06:23] <IdleOne> dethaddr: in the firefox prefs
[06:24] <Out_Cold> mnaines, i suppose it's mostly hardware and kernel related
[06:24] <IdleOne> mnaines: possible :)
[06:24] <Out_Cold> i haven't used skype for about a year now though
[06:24] <Out_Cold> problem could be fixed
[06:24] <Keiya> Oh, does Ubuntu sleep-on-close?
[06:24] <soreau> alazyworkaholic: Somewhat, but not on ubuntu so much. With ubuntu, I always recommend doing things 'their way'
[06:24] <mnaines> Out_Cold: If the newest Skype version has bugs, I haven't seen any
[06:24] <Out_Cold> dethaddr, look in preferences
[06:24] <cryptor3> I had problems with vnc when I enabled certain graphics card drivers
[06:24] <dethaddr> i got it
[06:24] <mrlexx> I was trying to perform an update of the system and received this error"
[06:24] <losher> jbutera: I thought gnome had a built-in vncserver? I forget it's name. Have you tried it?
[06:24] <teolicy> Say, other than the installer, what's the difference between the alternate and desktop CD? Why couldn't they have been two options on the same CD's boot menu?
[06:24] <dethaddr> i should have known.
[06:25] <mrlexx> E: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf:4: Extra junk at end of file
[06:25] <mnaines> IdleOne: I honestly think the reason for people's craziness is just the change in the weather
[06:25] <Out_Cold> teolicy, the alternate cd has a few more packages because it has the room for it
[06:25] <Out_Cold> it also allows EVMs and LVMs
[06:25] <mrlexx> IdleOne, what am I to do to fix this E: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf:4: Extra junk at end of file
[06:25] <jbutera> losher: it just shares the current session though, rather than allow a seperate login
[06:25] <IdleOne> mrlexx: did you edit that file?
[06:26] <jbutera> "desktop sharing" or whatever
[06:26] <mrlexx> no
[06:26] <Keiya> Looks like not, blah
[06:26] <IdleOne> mrlexx: pastebin the contents and let's all have a look see
[06:26] <mnaines> jussi01: Are there different ops on at different times of the day?
[06:26] <teolicy> Out_Cold: Ah. But there should be no driver (say, ethernet driver) difference between them, right?
[06:27] <Out_Cold> teolicy, there may be
[06:27] <teolicy> (because I'm installing on a laptop where one seems to install nicely, and the other claims no ethernet drivers)
[06:27] <shai> Does anyone know how I can enforce the larger DPI ( I set it to 120 instead of 96 ) on X apps I started over SSH X11 Forwarding ? The DPI set on my XDM works great, but those menus are just way to small on the apps I start via SSH ...
[06:27] <eastcoast0> Well, I installed ubuntu but something went wrong. there's no GRUB menu, just the GRUB CLI
[06:27] <jussi01> mnaines: ops are not "on" or "off". we are here when we can be.
[06:27] <mrlexx> IdleOne, pastebin?
[06:27] <IdleOne> !paste | mrlexx
[06:27] <eastcoast0> How do I fix this?
[06:27] <Out_Cold> teolicy, which is which?
[06:27] <mnaines> jussi01: Who maintains the server for this room?
[06:28] <IdleOne> mnaines: freenode
[06:28] <losher> jbutera: Because that's what most people want. So you want a separate vnc session? I use tightvncserver routinely, but I start it manually, not via xinetd...
[06:28] <teolicy> Desktop works, alternate does not, laptop is an Asus EEE 1005HA, chipsets by Atheros and Attansic.
[06:28] <eastcoast0> Wow this is even stranger
[06:28] <teolicy> Out_Cold: ^^ (sorry)
[06:28] <eastcoast0> menu.lst is fine
[06:28] <eastcoast0> So why does it kick me to the command line interface?
[06:28] <mnaines> IdleOne: Yeah...I'm wondering how the Linux community gets money for its maintenance and stuff...Surely people are paid to contribute
[06:28] <jussi01> mnaines: if you wish to chat to the ops, feel free to join #ubuntu-ops and ask your question as to reduce non ubuntu support traffic.
[06:29] <eastcoast0> !grub
[06:29] <Out_Cold> teolicy, then i believe the drivers are in fact on the alt disk but you need to enable or install them through apt or synaptic
[06:29] <jbutera> losher: yeah, like windows's terminal services
[06:29] <IdleOne> mnaines: very few are paid. compared to the amount of people who contribute to make linux what it is ( for free )
[06:29] <mnaines> IdleOne: So Linux is strictly a voluntary effort?
[06:29] <IdleOne> mnaines: mostly
[06:30] <IdleOne> mnaines: but not strictly
[06:30] <jussi01> mnaines: #ubuntu-ops or #ubuntu-offtopic for this please :)
[06:30] <Out_Cold> i am trying to use an install script that wants to use gcc 4.1.x and i have 4.3.x how do i revert back when invoking the script?
[06:30] <Balsaq> whew...this was  quite na experience for day 5 on open source?
[06:30] <lorenzo> hi, is alpha3 the latest karmic release?
[06:31] <sn00zer> Could somebody point me to a channel for a newbie wanting to create a website, perhaps in flash?
[06:31] <IdleOne> mnaines: i'm sure jussi01 could point you to a few good sites explaining all this but a good start is the Ubuntu philosophy on ubuntu.com this is offtopic for this channel.
[06:31] <Out_Cold> Balsaq, open source is a b**** ;)
[06:31] <mnaines> IdleOne: Here's a question that's more on-topic...Is there any place a newbie could go to learn the inner-workings of Ubuntu?
[06:31] <Out_Cold> sn00zer, try #flash
[06:31] <mrlexx> IdleOne,  @ the present moment it seems I am unable to do so on this system
[06:31] <Spoom> I HAVE WOBBLY WINDOWS!
[06:32] <Balsaq> tough lil neighborhood huh
[06:32] <eastcoast0> Why does GRUB send me to a command line instead of the normal menu?
[06:32] <mrlexx> any suggests?
[06:32] <Spoom> also, compiz works, and i thankye
[06:32] <sn00zer> Out_Cold: Thanks
[06:32] <eastcoast0> I don't know what went wrong
[06:32] <jussi01> Balsaq: please keep on topic, for general chatter join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:32] <Out_Cold> eastcoast0, is it asking you to log in?
[06:32] <eastcoast0> Out_Cold: No
[06:32] <eastcoast0> Out_Cold: I just get the 'grub>' command line
[06:32] <Out_Cold> eastcoast0, what's the prompt look like?
[06:33] <Out_Cold> oh lol
[06:33] <IdleOne> mnaines: this channel is a great place to learn. the ubuntu wiki and forums. there is also Launchpad. I mean this answer  is not the best one but google is a great tool :-)
[06:33] <eastcoast0> Out_Cold: So, where did I mess up?
[06:33] <Out_Cold> your grub is probably installed wrong then
[06:33] <eastcoast0> Out_Cold: Oh joy...
[06:33] <eastcoast0> Out_Cold: Any idea as to what I can do?
[06:33] <mnaines> IdleOne: I've been using Ubuntu full-time since June of 2009, but I do not feel like I am learning anything because I'm so dependent on the GUI.
[06:34] <rich_> do you know where i can get access to a public ssh server?
[06:34] <eastcoast0> Out_Cold: Here's menu.lst: http://pastebin.org/31489
[06:34] <elvtars> rich_: sdf.lonestar.org
[06:34] <mrlexx> it seems that it is not on the system
[06:35] <Out_Cold> eastcoast0, load the live cd and see if you can boot from the first disk..
[06:35] <Out_Cold> otherwise you'll need to learn how to adjust your grub, or re-install
[06:35] <eastcoast0> Out_Cold: How could I adjust GRUB?
[06:35] <eastcoast0> Also, I'm already in the liveCD just FYI
[06:35] <linuxguy2009> What programs are available to take make use of a linux compatible USB gps reciever?
[06:36] <callum_> hi is there a gay channel on freenode?
[06:36] <Spoom> for anyone looking for how to get this working on an i845 in future (or coming across this in the logs): use "AccelMethod" "XAA" with "EXAOptimizeMigration"  "true", "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy", and "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true", make sure you're *not* using the new kernel from the intel performance guide (it may or may not work but i'm currently successfully using the latest from jaunty-proposed) and just run compiz --replace
[06:36] <Spoom> :^)
[06:36] <callum_> Like a chat channel I am so bored.
[06:37] <mrlexx> IdleOne, http://paste.ubuntu.com/282733/
[06:37] <callum_> !pb Spoom
[06:37] <DeathFox> what is good for making avi mpeg etc to dvd movie
[06:37] <DeathFox> ?
[06:37] <rich_> elvtars, i have entered a username but nothing happens
[06:37] <Out_Cold> eastcoast0, the commands are in the grub> shell but i am not too familiar with grub as i usually use lilo
[06:37] <DeathFox> what program
[06:37] <mrlexx> ubottu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/282733/
[06:37] <Spoom> callum_, not a pastebin type thing, this is just so people can see it later if they search the logs
[06:37] <callum_> Most bot's are intelligent and build cars and computers.
[06:37] <IdleOne> mrlexx: sorry I am not sure what to do with that info
[06:38] <hayunda> hbjhgjhgj
[06:38] <elvtars> rich_: use "new"
[06:38] <losher> DeathFox: many people use devede
[06:38] <mrlexx> IdleOne,  that is the apt.conf file
[06:38] <DeathFox> does it got a gui
[06:38] <callum_> I believe it's "Does It Have a GUI Interface"
[06:39] <callum_> Not DOES IT GOT**
[06:39] <eastcoast0> Out_Cold: I think I might know what went wrong... does grub 0.97 support ext4?
[06:39] <IdleOne> mrlexx: restate your issue and provide that link, hopefully someone else will know the answer
[06:39] <alazyworkaholic> I'm e2fsck'ing my ssd. It found 000's of errors, but now it's been stuck on one inode for the last 10 minutes. I'm reluctant to ctrl-c & restart cuz that could screw sthg up. Is there any way I can check if it's actually doing something? a few other inodes took a minute or two to fix but this is ridiculous.
[06:39] <losher> DeathFox: yes, it has a gui. It's fine if you don't need sophisticated menus.
[06:39] <callum_> More like Death@Spelling.
[06:39] <Out_Cold> eastcoast0, i'm not sure if that has any influence
[06:39] <kiran_> how to install emerald themes on my ubuntu machine
[06:39] <eastcoast0> Out_Cold: :s
[06:39] <callum_> Lacks grammar and intellectual knowledge
[06:40] <losher> callum_: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:40] <DeathFox> k tks
[06:40] <callum_> Anyways - Losher how about suck a cock and die?
[06:40] <prince_jammys> jussi01: callum_
[06:40] <callum_> Sounds good to me :)
[06:40] <losher> !ops please take care of callum_
[06:40] <mrlexx> how can I repair the apt.conf file?
[06:40] <IdleOne> jussi01: earning your pay tonight :)
[06:40] <rich_> elvtars, once i am logged in with new, it asks me to choose a username, so i enter one and press 'enter', nothing happens.
[06:41] <jussi01> IdleOne: this morning... :)
[06:41] <kiran_> please tell me hoe to install emerald themes
[06:42] <IdleOne> jussi01: indeed
[06:42] <d9500> kiran_: are the themes in a standard emerald format, that is nameoftheme.emerald?
[06:42] <kiran_> d9500 yes
[06:42] <IdleOne> !cli > mnaines
[06:43] <elvtars> rich_: I'm not sure how you should proceed, also not on topic for this channel...
[06:44] <d9500> kiran-: if you're using the standard GNOME desktop, then you should have three buttons at the top left corner of the screen..applications, places, and system.
[06:44] <Varth> I'm looking to improve the battery life of my Lenovo S10. I'm running 9.04. Does anyone know a good place to start with this? Any help would be appreciated.
[06:44] <Varth> I've already run powertop
[06:44] <d9500> click on the one that says "system" and then click on prerferences. see if one of the options in the menu that pops out to the side says emerald theme manager
[06:45] <mnaines> Varth: Good place to start is with the hard drive...
[06:45] <alazyworkaholic> how do I pastebin?
[06:45] <stargate> I'm having a tad bit of trouble configuring my internet with WPA.   I tried to use the wpa_passphrase command in term, but it returned "bash: !: event not found (I'm assuming thats because the wpa key has (!) in it.    When I use the default network manager, it just whirls the connecting thing until it promps me again,  I've tried entering both the passphrase and the hex equiv of the passphrase there.
[06:45] <foul_owl> I need help. Apt is broken. I have no ideas
[06:45] <Varth> mnaines: That makes sense. More specifically, what can I do in relation to the hard drive?
[06:45] <mnaines> Varth: The Seagate Momentus 7200.4 hard drive only requires 310mA...Much lower than the 450mA of other hard drives
[06:46] <losher> alazyworkaholic: nothing to it. Go to paste.ubuntu.com, copy in stuff, hit return, and then tell us the url...
[06:46] <rich_> elvtars, can i connect to this shell externally?
[06:46] <kisuke>  alazyworkaholic paste.ubuntu.com
[06:46] <mnaines> Varth: The Seagate Momentus 7200.4 is a family of hard drives, coming in 160GB, 250GB, 320GB, and 500GB sizes, but all of them only require 310mA of power during the read/write phases
[06:46] <elvtars> rich_: Try the web site?
[06:47] <losher> stargate: try the terminal command again, but enclose the password in single quotes
[06:47] <mnaines> Varth, the second option is upgrading to a larger capacity battery
[06:47] <stargate> Alright, will try that, losher, thanks.  Will post back with my result
[06:48] <kiran_> emerald themes installation???
[06:48] <losher> foul_owl: can you pastebin the output from running apt?
[06:48] <Varth> mnaines: Yeah, I've been looking at one of the 6-cell batteries. Any idea for software fixes?
[06:48] <foul_owl> losher: sure thing, thanks for the help, one sec
[06:48] <mnaines> Varth: With any of the hard drives in that family, you only need install the hard drive and you instantly get the power savings...Power fixes would be the CPU Frequency and Scaling Applet, set it for the lowest frequency possible every time you boot up the computer
[06:49] <stargate> Actually, just looked over my passphrase again losher, and it has single quotes within it, that'll cause problems, won't it?
[06:49] <d9500> kiran_: did you see the emerald theme manager option in system-->preferences? if so, let me know and i will walk you through the next step. if not, you may need to install some additional packages.
[06:49] <kiran_> d9500 no
[06:49] <kiran_> d9500: no
[06:49] <mnaines> Varth, by far the biggest power savings would come from the hard drive, though
[06:50] <d9500> kiran-: do you know whether or not emerald is installed on your machine?
[06:50] <theblue> hi all.
[06:50] <Varth> mnaines: I see. Thanks for the help!
[06:50] <theblue> what's the easiest application to create a video DVD in ubuntu?
[06:50] <ezequiel> hola (:
[06:50] <theblue> i've already got the video file, i just want it playable in a DVD player.
[06:50] <kiran_> no
[06:50] <foul_owl> http://pastebin.com/m25e7b0ee
[06:50] <mnaines> Varth, you want a fast hard drive whenever possible.  The faster a hard drive is, the more time it sits idle, which uses less power
[06:50] <losher> stargate: yes it will, but you can use double quotes instead...
[06:51] <foul_owl> i've tried installing deps manually, but that doesn't work
[06:51] <d9500> kiran_:if you're not sure, try running the following, minus the quotes, in the terminal. "sudo apt-get install emerald libemeraldengine0"
[06:51] <d9500> if emerald is not installed, that should install it.
[06:51] <eastcoast0> How do I upgrade GRUB from the livecd?
[06:51] <stargate> losher, with the double quotes, I still get the !: event not found
[06:51] <eastcoast0> Please help me
[06:52] <GSF1200S> eastcoast0: you mean update?
[06:52] <eastcoast0> GSF12005: Well yeah, to 2
[06:52] <GSF1200S> like setup grub?
[06:52] <losher> stargate: what command are you typing (don't show me the password though)
[06:52] <mnaines> Varth: The Seagate Momentus 7200.4 family of drives speeds along at 80MB/sec, which is fast for a laptop drive
[06:52] <eastcoast0> GSF12005: no, upgrade to GRUB 2
[06:52] <alazyworkaholic> Severely f'd up netbook.ok, someone please take a look at this & tell me if you think you know what type of problem it indicates. Note I've tried to fsck & it hung on an inode for the longest time. This keeps scrolling every few (2 - 30) seconds: http://paste.ubuntu.com/282741/
[06:52] <losher> foul_owl: please type my nick when you reply so I get notified by my client...
[06:52] <stargate> wpa_passphrase [SSID] [Passphrase[
[06:52] <d9500> kiran_: you should also click the "y" key, if prompted to install any additional packages (dependencies) that it asks you to install when you run the previous command i just mentioned
[06:52] <revenge> can somoene help me my flash sound on firefox doesn't work and i used .deb file from website also..?
[06:52] <eastcoast0> GSF12005: The version ubuntu installed is 0.97
[06:52] <GSF1200S> eastcoast0: dont know
[06:53] <foul_owl> losher: got it
[06:53] <mnaines> alazyworkaholic: Without more information, we cannot accurately determine where the problem is
[06:53] <eastcoast0> Can someone help me please? How do I update GRUB from 0.97 to 2 from a LiveCD?
[06:53]  * mnaines has never had good luck getting netbooks to work with Linux
[06:53] <losher> stargate: so where is the "!" character. In the password?
[06:53] <kiran_> d9500: ya iam just tried its installing thanks for your help
[06:54] <zenlunatic> eastcoast0: what about `grub-install /dev/hda`
[06:54] <alazyworkaholic> mnaines: sure, what do you need? Acer Aspire One netbook. 16 GB ssd version. 9.10 A6.
[06:54] <alazyworkaholic> worked fine for a while...
[06:54] <stargate> losher: yeah,  I generated the password on grc.com/password using the all viewable hex field :P  tends to cause problems from time to time, as you can see :P
[06:54] <mnaines> alazyworkaholic: All I am going to say is, stick with an ordinary laptop...Save yourself the hassle
[06:54] <stargate> losher all viewable ascii**
[06:55] <d9500> kiran_: no prob. once it installs, you should be able to see the emerald theme manager in system-->preferences. let me know if you need any additional assistance on installing a theme once you have the theme manager open.
[06:55] <ezequiel> hola
[06:55] <losher> stargate: um, the double quotes should take care of the ! character. Not sure why you're seeing an error msg...
[06:56] <kisuke> revenge  uninstall it and use sudo apt-get from a comand line or install from synaptic
[06:56] <ezequiel> holaaaa
[06:56] <mnaines> alazyworkaholic: I have not heard any good things about netbooks and Linux compatibility
[06:56] <johannes_> I have an idea about diskless booting but before I get into it, Id like you to tell me if it is possible at all, I have drawn, what I want to do: http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5978/ramdiskboot.png
[06:56] <losher> foul_owl: so what does apt-cache search libtiff4-dev say?
[06:56] <stargate> hmmm, any alternative apps you might be able to suggest to manage my wifi to give it a try, losher?
[06:56] <revenge> kisuke: i did that too
[06:57] <rww> stargate: try replacing the ! with \!
[06:57] <mnaines> Netbooks are too proprietary and Linux netbook remixes are too buggy...That's why I do not recommend people use them
[06:57] <stargate> will try that, rww
[06:57] <revenge> kisuke: and what is the command to uninstall it in terminal?
[06:57] <alazyworkaholic> mnaines: actually it worked nicely with 9.04. but to anyone thinking about it, the aao's ssd is pathetically slow. besides that I was happy.
[06:57] <ezequiel> hello
[06:57] <Wiseman> Help!  I was transferring files to my external hard drive and it froze!  Am I gonna corrupt everything on there if I pull it out?  I can't unmount it or anything.
[06:58] <mnaines> alazyworkaholic: SSDs are currently still not up to snuff to be useful
[06:58] <stargate> no luck rww, thanks for the advice though.
[06:58] <alazyworkaholic> but in any case, I've already bought it & want to use it as intended - light web browsing.
[06:58] <kiran_> iam not able to here sound on my laptop speakers how to repair
[06:58] <foul_owl> losher: i tried installing libtiff4-dev, then it said it depended on libtiff4. tried installing libtiff4, already installed....
[06:58] <mnaines> alazyworkaholic: Plus, what nobody tells you about SSDs is you have to "zero" them out on a regular basis to keep them functional
[06:58] <losher> stargate: rww's advice should work too. There's something you're not telling us...
[06:58] <revenge> kisuke: i dont get why the gnash player works but not flash...gnash works but bad quality
[06:59] <Wiseman> wait wait wat mnaines, are you saying the latest technology may not be as stable as older technology initially?
[06:59] <losher> foul_owl: what os version are you using?
[06:59] <stargate> losher, like i said, the password has all ascii chars in it :P  including ()!/'  etc etc
[06:59] <Wiseman> so can anyone help?  I don't want to corrupt my external HDD
[06:59] <foul_owl> losher: ubuntu jaunty
[07:00] <alazyworkaholic> mnaines: I know about that too... so, any idea what this http://paste.ubuntu.com/282741/ indicates, or is there any more information I might provide?
[07:00] <mnaines> Wiseman: That's always the way it is...Newer technology is still buggy and less stable compared to older, proven technology...SSDs are still only about as fast as standard hard drives, they still use as much power as standard hard drives, and you have to zero them out periodically
[07:00] <losher> foul_owl: nothing to lose, try reinstalling e,g, apt-get install --reinstall libtiff4
[07:00] <Wiseman> ok, brace for impact, I'm pulling out my external HDD
[07:01] <foul_owl> losher: trying right now
[07:01] <revenge> can anyone else help me get my sound working again with flash?
[07:02] <mnaines> alazyworkaholic: I don't know enough about Linux to help you.  All I can say is that I have not had good luck with netbooks in both Ubuntu or Vista
[07:02] <losher> stargate: dunno what else to suggest, unless you wanna go private and show me your actual password. Er, by double quote, I mean this character -> ", not two of these -> ' if that makes a difference
[07:02] <foul_owl> losher: Reinstallation of libtiff4 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[07:02] <GSF1200S> mnaines: my brand new asus eeepc 1005ha-p works perfect with UNR 9.10 daily
[07:02] <alazyworkaholic> mnaines: which did you try out?
[07:03] <losher> foul_owl: that's fishy. Is the server down? or something else. I guess I need to see the exact message...
[07:03] <mnaines> GSF1200S: Yeah...I keep hearing a lot of issues about wireless cards being permanently disabled if you don't manually enable them in XP before installing Ubuntu and a bunch of other stuff
[07:03] <foul_owl> just normal apt stuff....building dependency tree, etc, then that message
[07:03] <alazyworkaholic> Can anyone else tell me what http://paste.ubuntu.com/282741/ means? I'd love to at least find out whether it's software or hardware.
[07:03] <foul_owl> something is screwy....not sure what
[07:03] <GSF1200S> hmm.. I dont know how that would happen
[07:03] <kisuke> revenge sudo apt-get remove firefox-mozilla i think to remove and with flash i've never been able to get to run nice for the .dep what i do is get the .tar.gz version from abobes website and put libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and works just fine
[07:04] <revenge> kisuke: under firefox plugins it says: Adobe Flash Player (Installer), Gnash flash player....but only gnash works with sound ...:\
[07:04] <GSF1200S> mnaines, you could always restore the disk with XP and then go back and install buntu
[07:04] <kisuke> revenge try uninstalling gnash
[07:04] <mnaines> GSF1200S: If its going to be that much of a hassle, I'll stick with my 15.4" Toshiba laptop
[07:04] <GSF1200S> but yeah.. everything works well, and its a pretty new netbook.. the batt life is rediculous
[07:05] <losher> foul_owl: I don't run jaunty myself so I can't check. Perhaps some other jaunty user can check? Meanwhile, what does apt-cache search libtiff4 say
[07:05] <revenge> kisnuke it doesnt recognize sudo apt-get remove firefox-mozilla
[07:05] <GSF1200S> mnaines: it wasnt for me.. I installed a daily of 9.10.. done
[07:05] <mnaines> GSF1200S: I get a good 4 to 5 hours of battery life on mine
[07:05] <foul_owl> losher: it just lists the package
[07:05] <kisuke> revenge what distro are you using?
[07:06] <revenge> jaunty
[07:06] <foul_owl> losher: this has happened with other packages too, beside this one
[07:06] <mnaines> GSF1200S: I used Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition on both my laptop and desktop...Never had any problems
[07:06] <foul_owl> losher: can't remember which ones
[07:06] <GSF1200S> mnaines, thats cool.. My netbook isnt as powerful, but I get like 9 hours which is cool
[07:06] <kisuke> revenge which *buntu? i.e. ubuntu, xubuntu, ecubuntu?
[07:06] <ssk2> GSF1200S: what netbook?
[07:06] <revenge> lol weird when i sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox it says not installed but i have it
[07:07] <GSF1200S> mnaines: Ubuntu 6.10 didnt work on my laptop, but 7.04 did
[07:07] <revenge> kisuke ubuntu
[07:07] <losher> foul_owl: well it's not normal. I've never seen that message. Can you pastebin it?
[07:07] <GSF1200S> ssk2: Asus Eeepc 1005HA-P
[07:07] <prateek> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/230983/+choose-affected-product I want to add 'ubuntu', but it says "There is no project in Launchpad named "Ubuntu". Please search for it as it may be registered with a different name." Searching for it tells me that there are too many results. So how is one supposed to do this?
[07:07] <stargate> losher, just in case you didn't notice, I pmed the password
[07:07] <mnaines> GSF1200S: Seamless transition from Windows Vista to Ubuntu on both machines...Laptop runs an Intel Core2 Duo at 1.86GHz with the capability to throttle it down to 800MHz per core
[07:07] <alazyworkaholic> I got mine too early. I should have waited another couple months for system76's starling netbook to come out. It looks good. + it should work with no problems.
[07:08] <exsa04> hj
[07:08] <GSF1200S> mnaines, well my desktop is an i7 rig
[07:08] <GSF1200S> mnaines, my lappie is a core2duo 2.16ghz
[07:08] <mnaines> GSF1200S: Sadly, by the time I switched to Ubuntu, I had spent well over $3,000 on a quad-core gaming desktop when I was in Vista
[07:08] <GSF1200S> I dont gave a windows install
[07:08] <revenge> kisuke: ok i uninstalled firefox from synaptic
[07:09] <GSF1200S> mnaines: its fine to spend alot on a comp that will be used for linux
[07:09] <mnaines> GSF1200S: Mine is a Kentsworth quad-core, Intel Core2 family...4GB of RAM and three hard drives
[07:09] <GSF1200S> mnaines, thats cool.. I bet she flies
[07:10] <mnaines> GSF1200S: Yeah...64-bit Ubuntu and she's smoking anything Windows has
[07:10] <losher> stargate: thanks for mentioning, I hadn't noticed. ok, enclosing it in double quotes works ok in my shell, so something else is going on. What does it say when you type "which wpa_passphrase"
[07:10] <lorenzo> hi, i need to do a fresh install and i was wondering is the beta of karmic decently stable right now? thanks
[07:10] <GSF1200S> emaines: arch linux on the i7 rig
[07:10] <GSF1200S> with XFCE
[07:10] <revenge> kisuke: how should i install it?
[07:10] <losher> lorenzo: that would be a big NO...
[07:11] <mnaines> GSF1200S: The beauty of this box is she'll take whatever Linux can throw at her then gladly ask for seconds
[07:11] <lorenzo> losher, ok, i'll install jaunty then! thank you
[07:11] <koolhead> revenge:
[07:11] <mshooshtari> I know this is the wrong room, but has anybody in this room heard any delay announcment for Karmic Beta release Oct 1st?
[07:11] <GSF1200S> mnaines, indeed, as will mine
[07:11] <stargate> losher, output to which wpa_passphrase is /usr/bin/wpa_passphrase
[07:11] <koolhead> mshooshtari: its coming :)
[07:11] <revenge> koolhead: yes?
[07:11] <losher> lorenzo: even jaunty's a bit wobbly. Personally I use 8.04
[07:11] <Flannel> mshooshtari: If you know it's the wrong room, why are you asking?
[07:11] <mnaines> GSF1200S: But with all this power comes the never-ending desire to push the girl to her limits
[07:11] <koolhead> revenge: what happed to firefox
[07:12] <losher> stargate: it looks kosher. What's the ssid...
[07:12] <Flannel> mshooshtari: #ubuntu+1 is guaranteed to know more than here.
[07:12] <koolhead> mnaines: gals!!
[07:12] <mshooshtari> Flannel: I asked in +1, but it was quiet, so maybe somebody in this room who is not in the other knows.
[07:12] <lorenzo> losher, that is weird, i have had jaunty since april on my other computer and it works fine for me
[07:12] <hohoho> hello
[07:12] <stargate> losher, SecureHomeNet
[07:12] <GSF1200S> mnaines, I just setup ssh and o/c'd it a little.. no need to blow it up
[07:12] <hohoho> how do i connect to wireless network using shell
[07:12] <hohoho> ?
[07:12] <revenge> koolhead: my flash sound did not work AT all after using everything i could think of, so i removed it and trying to reinstall some other way
[07:13] <mnaines> GSF1200S: I don't need to OC...If I want more oomph, I just get lower-latency ram and a velociraptor
[07:13] <losher> stargate: wait. I just tried it in bash (I use tcsh), and I get the same error message as you...
[07:13] <koolhead> revenge: and then
[07:13] <koolhead> ?
[07:13] <revenge> koolhead: see if my sound works on youtube, with flash
[07:13] <stargate> ah ha...  what's involved in running tcsh for the time being?
[07:13] <foul_owl1> losher: sorry lost connection there
[07:13] <GSF1200S> mnaines, I have two raptors with raid and DDR3.. O/Cing is all thats left
[07:13] <losher> lorenzo: then you're lucky. No reason for you not to run jaunty then...
[07:14] <foul_owl1> losher: sorry, lost connection there
[07:14] <GSF1200S> im a speedfreak
[07:14] <DJ_JANSS> ::<<«· hello ·»>>::
[07:14] <losher> foul_owl1: no problem...
[07:14] <stargate> doh, always forget to type your name losher :P   what's involved in the switch to and from tcsh?
[07:14] <mnaines> GSF, she's already fast enough as it is...4-4-4-12-2T Corsair RAM, the boot drive is a Western Digital 150GB Raptor drive, and the CPU is a 2.4GHz quad-core...More than I'll ever need
[07:14] <yazid_zaid> hello
[07:14] <foul_owl1> losher: any ideas? im thinking about a complete reinstall...lol
[07:14] <lorenzo> losher, have you used 64bit? how is the flashplugin working on that now? i am on 32 despite having a 64bit machine since 8.10 gave me lots of trouble with flash in firefox. are things any better now?
[07:14] <GSF1200S> mnaines, yeah, thats pretty fast...
[07:14] <koolhead> revenge: flashplugin-nonfree ubuntu-restricted-extras  install them and see if it wrks for u
[07:14] <mnaines> lorenzo: I'm not having any problems with Flash in Ubuntu 64
[07:15] <GSF1200S> wont need to upgrade for a loooong while
[07:15] <mnaines> GSF1200S: If ever...
[07:15] <losher> stargate: nothing to it. Just type /bin/csh. Then do wpa_passphrase <ssid> "<password>" then type exit
[07:15] <lorenzo> mnaines, ok, maybe i'll give the 64 a shot!
[07:15] <koolhead> my flash runs well on firefox
[07:15] <lorenzo> mnaines, would you say performance is significantly better on 64?
[07:16] <losher> lorenzo: nope, I'm a coward. I run 8.04/32 and it's solid as a rock...
[07:16] <foul_owl1> .
[07:16] <lorenzo> losher, lol, i understand
[07:16] <kisuke> revenge sorry for wait use syaptic to install firefox
[07:16] <mnaines> GSF1200S: For machines like what you and I have, actually, no...There isn't really any noticeable difference between 32 and 64
[07:17] <GSF1200S> mnaines, Im sure.. i use 64bit.. encoding is quite a bit faster
[07:17] <losher> foul_owl1: sorry, no other ideas. I notice no-one else has commented, which kind of confirms that it's not a typical failure mode...
[07:17] <mnaines> GSF1200S: For example, my laptop runs 32-bit Ubuntu 9.04 at 800MHz for each of two cores, but there isn't any noticeable difference in speed between that setup and the 64-bit on my desktop at full steam
[07:18] <pete__> can anyone tell me how to adjust screen brightness *xubuntu
[07:18] <GSF1200S> i think im running 2.16 all the time... I really need to setup cpufreq
[07:18] <GSF1200S> im sorry: 2.66, now 3.01
[07:19] <stargate> losher, alright, now how do i use that to connect now that we got it to work properly :P
[07:19] <mnaines> GSF1200S: You may notice a difference for the resource-intense applications, but for basic stuff like web surfing, IRC, and word processing, you don't need the 64-bit
[07:19] <GSF1200S> yeah, but I do to use all 6GB of RAM :)
[07:19] <lorenzo> mnaines, so what would i need the 64? video editing for example?
[07:19] <GSF1200S> at least effeciently
[07:19] <fanka> hy
[07:20] <mnaines> lorenzo: Anything which would require insane amounts of resources...Video editing, game animation, stuff like that
[07:20] <lorenzo> mnaines, ok
[07:21] <mnaines> lorenzo: If all you do is surf the web, check email, chat, and any of those basic things, you don't need anything more than an El Cheapo laptop with 32-bit Ubuntu
[07:21] <revenge> kisuke: how can i reinstall firefox in terminal?
[07:21] <koolhead> revenge: why do u wanna re-install
[07:21] <koolhead> ?
[07:21] <pete__> can anyone tell me how to adjust screen brightness *xubuntu
[07:21] <foul_owl1> losher: thanks for the help!
[07:22] <revenge> koolhead: becaues i uninstalled it to do a fresh installation
[07:22] <mnaines> GSF1200S: I got 4GB of RAM in my desktop and at any given time, there is less than 700MB of that actually being used
[07:22] <losher> stargate: um, on my laptop, there's an app that comes up for connecting, and it 'just works'...
[07:22] <MasterofPuppets> How do I check whether I'm running 32 or 64 bit Linux?
[07:22] <kiwi_guy> hey whens the next release of ubuntu due?
[07:22] <revenge> koolhead: my sound didnt work on flash only with firefox
[07:22] <GSF1200S> mnaines: I use VMs and have lots of shit open
[07:22] <MasterofPuppets> !karmic > kiwi_guy
[07:22] <koolhead> revenge: install the pkgs i asked u to it will wrk then
[07:22] <lorenzo> mnaines, actually i was trying to start using ubuntu for video editing too, although i havent found an application i really like yet
[07:22] <koolhead> :P
[07:22] <revenge> koolhead: it works with seamonkey
[07:23] <koolhead> revenge: mozilla-plugin-vlc - multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC
[07:23] <koolhead> ;-)
[07:23] <mnaines> MasterofPuppets: Check the RAM use when the machine just boots up...32-bit Ubuntu will boot up using less than 300MB of RAM while 64-bit Ubuntu boots up using close to 400MB or 500MB of RAM
[07:23] <losher> !wifi | stargate does any of this help
[07:23] <MasterofPuppets> mnaines: Anything I could do from terminal?
[07:23] <ssk2> MasterofPuppets: type uname -a, it'll be there
[07:24] <kisuke> revenge sudo apt-get install firefox or sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[07:24] <kisuke> revenge i think
[07:24] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: It just says i868
[07:24] <MasterofPuppets> Is that it?
[07:24] <stargate> Thanks for the link losher, I'll check it out in a bit, gonna hardwire it for the moment and just update all the packages
[07:25] <mnaines> MasterofPuppets: x86 usually means 32-bit
[07:25] <stargate> And thanks again for all of the help losher.
[07:25] <stargate> Hopefully I'll get it working sooner or later losher :P
[07:25] <MasterofPuppets> mnaines: I meant i686*
[07:25] <mnaines> MasterofPuppets: Here is the single output you should be getting: Linux 2.6.28-15-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 19:25:34 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:26] <revenge> kisnuke, koolhead, : should i install only firefox-3.0 / firefox-3.0-branding...along with all the other stuff u told me to install vlc, and restricted etc?
[07:26] <losher> lorenzo: video editing isn't linux's strong point. I use avidemux but it doesn't handle all formats
[07:26] <losher> stargate: best of luck....
[07:26] <revenge> kisnuke, koolhead, : in synaptic
[07:26] <mnaines> MasterofPuppets: That's the output from my desktop, notice how it says x86_64
[07:26] <lorenzo> losher, yeah, i am stuck with xp for video and music too.
[07:27] <MasterofPuppets> I get i686 instead of x86_64
[07:27] <kisuke> revenge synaptic is easier as i recall it is a frount end for apt-get
[07:27] <mnaines> What linux kernel version?
[07:27] <mnaines> MasterofPuppets: Can you paste the entire output line?
[07:28] <losher> lorenzo: I use convertxtodvd/wine for dvd authoring, and xp/adobe audition for audio. I've not found anything to beat them...
[07:28] <revenge> kisnuke: bah still no sound
[07:28] <revenge> kisnuke: it works w/ seamonkey... flash adobe
[07:28] <kisuke> revenge how did you install flash?
[07:29] <MasterofPuppets> mnaines: Linux Laptop 2.6.31-10-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 22 17:33:42 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:29] <revenge> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:29] <losher> MasterofPuppets: that's 32-bit...
[07:29] <revenge> kisnuke : flashplugin-nonfree ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:29] <koolhead> revenge: sudo apt-get install pkgname
[07:29] <MasterofPuppets> losher: Alright, thanks :)
[07:29] <koolhead> revenge: yeah
[07:30] <abcminiuser> Hey all
[07:30] <abcminiuser> I'm trying to switch from Gnome to Xfce - I'm installing the xubuntu-desktop package, but how do I remove Gnome afterwards?
[07:31] <revenge> koolhead: guess i have to use seamonkey
[07:31] <kisuke> revenge what is in your /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins folder?
[07:31] <koolhead> revenge: common :P
[07:31] <dethaddr> is any one in here good with wine?
[07:31] <tombott> abcminiuser: i just have both installed, that way i can switch between them both
[07:31] <Si235> hi
[07:31] <digmore> does anyone know any good software to extract text from an audio file?
[07:31] <dethaddr> im tring to run a game and i can not for the life of me get it to run in full screen
[07:32] <Si235> I've been googling how to stop Freevo from starting up on my box, and I tried both gui methods and don't see it listed in the startup gui management tools.
[07:33] <Si235> its not under service settings or startup items in the GUI.
[07:37] <panfist> this is the second time in one day my 8.04 server has run out of hard disk space. earlier today i did an apt-get clean; I freed 30% of disk space and in a matter of hours it's gone
[07:37] <kisuke> dethadder try #winehq
[07:37] <valley>  /quit
[07:37] <kisuke> !wine | dethaddr
[07:38] <panfist> can anyone help me figure out why my server is constantly filling up
[07:38] <dethaddr> can any one tell me what my "x server" is and how to find out why its crashing?
[07:38] <koolhead> panfist: explain filling up
[07:38] <revenge> kisnuke: http://s1006.photobucket.com/albums/af187/geezup_pix/?action=view&current=Screenshot.png
[07:39] <koolhead> dethaddr: /var/log/
[07:39] <kisuke> !x | dethadder
[07:39] <panfist> koolhead earlier today i did an apt-clean and freed 30% of disk space. it's gone in a matter of hours. something is clogging my server and i cant find it
[07:39] <kisuke> dethadder that is x server
[07:39] <koolhead> panfist: check logs please.
[07:39] <panfist> which logs
[07:40] <koolhead> and are u having debmirror ?
[07:40] <koolhead> panfist: auth.log is sum1 else using it
[07:40] <koolhead> :P
[07:40] <papapepper> hey ubuntu peeps, always good to be on here on my ubuntu in irssi!!!
[07:40] <papapepper> (instead on on MacBook in Colloquy :-P )
[07:41] <paipimenta> so I need to make an ntfs partition.... help?
[07:41] <revenge> kisuke: u there?
[07:41] <MasterofPuppets> How do I set the permissions on a USB drive? I've tried sudo chown name disk but it doesn't return anything
[07:42] <panfist> please tell me that pam_unix is supposed to be running in my auth.log ...
[07:42] <ssk2> MasterofPuppets: is it a pen drive or a hard disk?
[07:42] <kisuke> revenge one min slow PC + flash = argh
[07:42] <revenge> kisnuke, k
[07:43] <ActionParsnip1> paipimenta: install ntfsprogs
[07:43] <panfist> koolhead so auth.log looks normal...
[07:43] <paipimenta> kisuke: why aren't you in a term? :-?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip1> paipimenta: it will add the functionality to gparted
[07:43] <ActionParsnip1> !info ntfsprogs
[07:43] <paipimenta> ntfsprogs
[07:43] <paipimenta> there we go... couldn't apropos it, couldn't aptitude it
[07:43] <koolhead> panfist: what all services u are running apache/squid/ftp
[07:44] <kisuke> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/thankyou/?installer=Flash_Player_10_for_Linux_(.tar.gz)  extract this to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[07:44] <panfist> apache, mysql, that's it. mysql database is under 100mb
[07:44] <ActionParsnip1> paipimenta: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[07:44] <paipimenta> after i apt-get install ntfsprogs, I can man this, right?
[07:44] <paipimenta> will update download a desktop if I'm in server only mode?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip1> paipimenta: sure, you will get mkfs.ntfs as a command so you can format ntfs
[07:44] <kisuke> paipamenta busted HDD so running live CD and i likes guis
[07:45] <ActionParsnip1> paipimenta: no it only adds libs and commands
[07:45] <paipimenta> kisuke: yeah, especially when system's f-d up... nice to not be stuck in BUSYBOX :-/
[07:45] <ActionParsnip1> busybox is pretty slick
[07:47] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: pen drive
[07:47] <paipimenta> ActionParsnip1: yeah, I just hate editing in echo cat and sed
[07:47] <ActionParsnip1> paipimenta: nano and vi ?
[07:47] <bbalajirao> guys, I have tried adding firewall rules for UFW. but they seem not to be loading. A port scan still shows the same ports open.
[07:47] <paipimenta> in busybox?
[07:47] <bbalajirao> Ubuntu 9.04
[07:47] <ActionParsnip1> paipimenta: works here afaik, its been time though
[07:47]  * prince_jammys thinks you missed vi, though it has no nano afaik
[07:48] <frewsxcv> anyone have a google wave invite?
[07:48] <Maelos> bbalajirao: Did you enable it?  ufw enable
[07:48] <bbalajirao> yes
[07:48] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | frewsxcv
[07:48] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: It's ext3, btw. I reformatted it with gparted
[07:48] <paipimenta> afaik?
[07:48] <prince_jammys> As Far As I Know
[07:48] <frewsxcv> bbalajirao, you have one?
[07:48] <kisuke> revenge brb i need to restart
[07:48] <Maelos> bbalajirao: iptables -L -n, are there any rules there?
[07:48] <bbalajirao> I have ufw and enabled
[07:48] <bbalajirao> let me check
[07:49] <bbalajirao> Yes there are rules
[07:50] <ssk2> MasterofPuppets: hm, not too sure, I had some issues with a fat32 external hard disk, had to set the permissions in /etc/fstab
[07:50] <Maelos> bbalajirao: Is there more than one nic in the box?
[07:50] <bbalajirao> no
[07:51] <paipimenta> wait... I need to create an additional partition, which I need to do before I run mkntfs?
[07:51] <paipimenta> I see no make.ntfs
[07:51] <prospire> what is the command to bzip2 and gzip a file called backup.sql in linux?
[07:51] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: It's just that I'm trying to back it up with file backup manager, and it says I don't have permission
[07:51] <paipimenta> sorry, I see mkfs.ntfs, but creating a partition first?
[07:52] <paipimenta> fdisk shows no NTFS option
[07:52] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: Even though I've tried to chown
[07:52] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: yes, you'd have to create (or already have) the partition before you mkfs
[07:53] <prince_jammys> ... if that was the question
[07:53] <paipimenta> parted, got it
[07:53] <paipimenta> mkpartfs
[07:54] <Si235> how do I change the MTU settings for a network interface from the command line?
[07:54] <stargate> silly question, if you have multiple desktop environments installed, can you use programs designed for a desktop environment that you aren't currently using without any real issues?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip1> paipimenta: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-reformat-an-external-hard-drive-to-ntfs-format-in-ubuntu-hardy/2008/09/29
[07:54] <Si235> so it keeps the setting after reboot.
[07:54] <ssk2> MasterofPuppets:  sorry, not familiar with that program, do you run it as yourself or as root?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip1> paipimenta: doesnt matter if its external as the guide uses, to Ubuntu its just another partition
[07:55] <ActionParsnip1> stargate: yes, you can run amarok in XFCE, you can run gedit in KDE
[07:55] <dethaddr> so i cant figure this X/Config/Resolution thing out, can any one help?
[07:55] <Sinister> i have a 500 internalk hard drive that will not make me the owner anyone know why ?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip1> stargate: as long as the libs each needs exists then they will run
[07:55] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: As root
[07:56] <kisuke> kk im back
[07:56] <kisuke> revenge how is it comeing?
[07:56] <stargate> thanks actionparsnip1   *downloads libs like crazy* XD
[07:56] <ActionParsnip1> stargate: it does add bloat, esqecially kde aps which rely on Qt rather than GTK
[07:57] <paipimenta> prince_jammys: oh man, i remember pvmove everything to very beginning of vg
[07:57] <paipimenta> I think I still need to resize partition? how do I check?
[07:57] <ricky21tom> helo
[07:57] <stargate> actionparsnip1, at the moment, bloat is the least of my worries :P  I'm just trying to get stuff to work
[07:57] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: I've run it from terminal as root
[07:57] <ActionParsnip1> stargate: thats cool. I try to avoid it.
[07:57] <MasterofPuppets> Now it says the device is busy
[07:57] <MasterofPuppets> Even though it's not doing anything
[07:58] <nimrod|king> !Hi | ricky21tom
[07:58] <ActionParsnip1> paipimenta: df -h    will show you how full the partitions are
[07:58]  * stargate noms up bloat like a mad man :P
[07:58] <paipimenta> I definitely run fdisk and see that my /dev/sda2 is still taking up the remainder of my HD
[07:58] <paipimenta> I need to shrink it before I create an NTFS
[07:58] <ActionParsnip1> stargate: my / partition is just over 3Gb and I run compiz + AWN
[07:58] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: I've got it working, nevermind
[07:58] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: Thank you for all the help though!
[07:58] <ssk2> MasterofPuppets: what was wrong?
[07:59] <ricky21tom> hey can we have a private chat
[07:59] <dethaddr> if i install a new graphics card will ubuntu pick up on it?
[07:59] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: I guess the program wasn't running as root, and I guess the USB was still "busy" from my earlier re-labeling
[07:59] <ssk2> MasterofPuppets: ah
[07:59] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: Unmounting it and putting it back in seems to have fixed that part
[08:00] <prospire> I have a file called backup.sql , when I gzip it using the command "gzip backup.sql" a file called backup.sql.gz is created. when I again create backup.sql and gzip it using the same command, the command line asks whether to overwrite it or not. press why to overwrite and n not to overwrite. is there any single command in which I can do the whole thing? I mean I don't want to writ the command gzip backup.sql first and ten why to overwrite ??
[08:00] <ricky21tom> hey what is ur working hours
[08:00] <kisuke> !u | ricky21tom
[08:00] <paipimenta> so I'm confused... I shrank my vg, but i still need to shrink /dev/sda2
[08:00] <paipimenta> help?
[08:00] <kisuke> ricky21tom 24 hours a day
[08:00] <arooni_____> i want to do this:  every morning at 7AM wake up to a playlist of songs that i select.  i know how to use crontab... but am unsure on the best way to invoke a program from command line to play these songs
[08:00] <prospire> I have a file called backup.sql , when I gzip it using the command "gzip backup.sql" a file called backup.sql.gz is created. when I again create backup.sql and gzip it using the same command, the command line asks whether to overwrite it or not. press why to overwrite and n not to overwrite. is there any single command in which I can do the whole thing? I mean I don't want to writ the command gzip backup.sql first and ten why to overwrite ??
[08:00] <stargate> actionparsnip1, I suspect my problem is with the drivers, but don't know how to confirm that, so i'm trying other wifi management apps for the time being
[08:01] <paipimenta> I only have 7297 cylinders, boot partition takes up 26, /dev/sda2 takes up the rest
[08:01] <ricky21tom> thank you dude
[08:01] <paipimenta> how do I shrink /dev/sda2?
[08:01] <prospire> anyone can help me?
[08:02] <ricky21tom> hey is there any backup solution
[08:02] <nimrod|king> !ask | prospire
[08:02] <timClicks> is anyone here into PHP who may wish to help out with a response to the earthquakes in samoa, poss indonesia?
[08:02] <Qu4R0w> i cant update my ubuntu..got this error.how can i fix this=Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:02] <prospire> nimrod|king: lol
[08:02] <prospire> I had already asked my question
[08:02] <timClicks> please visit http://sahana.lk/ to learn more
[08:02] <prospire> I have a file called backup.sql , when I gzip it using the command "gzip backup.sql" a file called backup.sql.gz is created. when I again create backup.sql and gzip it using the same command, the command line asks whether to overwrite it or not. press why to overwrite and n not to overwrite. is there any single command in which I can do the whole thing? I mean I don't want to writ the command gzip backup.sql first and ten why to overwrite ??
[08:02] <xQuasar> Ok so I've just installed Ubuntu, but the graphics seem to be a little slow. Do I have to install a driver for my graphics card for ubuntu?
[08:02] <kisuke> Qu4r0w run sudo apt-get update
[08:02] <optimizer> i'm looking to buy a computer, who's sole pupose in life is to serve as a wiki; where can I get such a cheap machine?
[08:03] <prospire> anyone?
[08:03] <prospire> I have a file called backup.sql , when I gzip it using the command "gzip backup.sql" a file called backup.sql.gz is created. when I again create backup.sql and gzip it using the same command, the command line asks whether to overwrite it or not. press why to overwrite and n not to overwrite. is there any single command in which I can do the whole thing? I mean I don't want to writ the command gzip backup.sql first and ten why to overwrite ??
[08:03] <paipimenta> optimizer: emachines?
[08:03] <Qu4R0w> kisuke: then i got that error=Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:03] <kisuke> optimizer craigslist/pawnshop/ebay/thriftstore
[08:03] <ssk2> optimizer: you could always get an Acer nettop
[08:03] <prospire> someone please help me out
[08:03] <kisuke> !ot |optimizer
[08:04] <paipimenta> prospire: OMG!!!! option -f
[08:04] <paipimenta> FUCKING MAN
[08:04] <FloodBot1> paipimenta: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:04] <paipimenta> stop flooding
[08:04] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: If you don't mind me bothering you again; http://www.blender.org/download/get-blender/ Which one for 32-bit do you think I can use?
[08:04] <paipimenta> @FloodBot1 |
[08:04] <paipimenta> Prospire
[08:04] <ricky21tom> hello can any body give me the solution for backup in Ubuntu
[08:04] <prospire> one more thing
[08:05] <prospire> backup.sql is being gzipped to backup.sql.gz but I want the name to be backup.gz
[08:05] <paipimenta> I only have 7297 cylinders, boot partition takes up 26, /dev/sda2 takes up the rest
[08:05] <prospire> how do I do that?
[08:05] <paipimenta> how do I shrink /dev/sda2?
[08:05] <jbutera> aloha
[08:05] <paipimenta> I only have 7297 cylinders, boot partition takes up 26, /dev/sda2 takes up the rest
[08:05] <paipimenta> how do I shrink /dev/sda2?
[08:05] <ssk2> MasterofPuppets: perhaps te Ubuntu 9.04 .deb package for linux x86-32
[08:05] <MasterofPuppets> ricky21tom: What are you backing up to?
[08:05] <paipimenta> !partition
[08:05] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: I'm running karmic development branch though
[08:05] <Qu4R0w> kisuke: any ideas?
[08:05] <kisuke> qu4r0w it sounds like you internet connectioni slow or dieing when you update try restarting you internet connection using irc/webrowser/chat program can slow the download down as well so try and run as little as possible.
[08:05] <xQuasar> Ok so I've just installed Ubuntu, but the graphics seem to be a little slow. Do I have to install a driver for my graphics card for ubuntu?
[08:06] <Peddy> ricky21tom, what kind of backup do you want? Full hard-drive, or just your documents/pictures etc?
[08:06] <jbutera> paipimenta: /dev/sda2 is a block device, not a file
[08:06] <prospire> backup.sql is being gzipped to backup.sql.gz but I want the name to be backup.gz....how do I do that?
[08:06] <kisuke> paipimenta sudo apt-get gparted
[08:06] <ricky21tom> hey i have windows and Ubuntu both are installed
[08:06] <stargate> ricky21tom, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs  just found that via google, but there is a lot of stuff listed :P
[08:06] <xangua> xQuasar: what graphic card¿
[08:06] <Qu4R0w> kisuke: owh..let me take a try..thanks for ur time
[08:06] <krishmish> hi room, can someone help me with connecting pidgin from behind squid proxy??
[08:06] <ricky21tom> hey i wanted to back up an single drive of ntfs partion
[08:07] <stargate> too many animals for my taste, krishmish
[08:07] <kisuke> qu4r0w no problem
[08:07] <paipimenta> isn't resizing the filesystem on a partition different than resizing the partition? how do I shrink partition?
[08:07] <krishmish> stargate: what hpnd?
[08:07] <xQuasar> xangua: some intel integrated graphics card.
[08:07] <paipimenta> parted resize?
[08:07] <kraut> moin
[08:08] <krishmish> hi room, can someone help me with connecting pidgin from behind squid proxy??
[08:08] <ssk2> MasterofPuppets: not sure, perhaps just the normal package then
[08:08] <kisuke> paipimenta gparted is the gnome partition manager this will do both
[08:08] <stargate> krishmish, bad joke,  about pidgins and squids...
[08:08] <MasterofPuppets> ssk2: I'll just try python 2.6 and test my luck. Sorry to bother you so much!
[08:08] <paipimenta> sudo parted resize {start} {end}
[08:08] <krishmish> stargate: whats ur problem??
[08:08] <paipimenta> start and end are.... cylinders? blocks?
[08:08] <ssk2> MasterofPuppets: np
[08:08] <Peddy> krishmish, have you entered the proxy settings in Pidgin?
[08:08] <paipimenta> I don't have GNOME
[08:09] <Peddy> krishmish, he's just kidding haha
[08:09] <paipimenta> I'm on CL
[08:09] <krishmish> peddy: yes
[08:09] <prospire> backup.sql is being gzipped to backup.sql.gz but I want the name to be backup.gz....how do I do that?
[08:09] <kisuke> paipimenta what are you running?
[08:09] <ssk2> prospire: mv backup.sql backup
[08:09] <prospire> I am doing the gzipping through command line
[08:09] <ActionParsnip1> paipimenta: i'd read    man parted    before you break something
[08:09] <paipimenta> command line server, reading man parted
[08:09] <paipimenta> on tty2
[08:09] <paipimenta> resize filesystem?
[08:09] <paipimenta> is that the same thing as resizing a partition?  I belive no
[08:09] <ssk2> prospire: or mv backup.sql.gz backup.gz
[08:09] <paipimenta> am I a total noob?
[08:10] <kisuke> paipimenta man parted and man fdisk
[08:10] <prospire> ssk2: ok, I'll try that
[08:10] <krishmish> peddy: tools>preferences>network tab???
[08:10] <Peddy> krishmish, yup.
[08:10] <Peddy> krishmish, what IM protocl are you using?
[08:10] <xQuasar> Ok so I've just installed Ubuntu, but the graphics seem to be a little slow. Do I have to install a driver for my graphics card (it's an integrated Intel graphics card, btw) for ubuntu?
[08:10] <prospire> ssk2: why not rename?
[08:10] <ricky21tom> hello can any body help me with backup of an NTFS partition
[08:11] <ActionParsnip1> !backup | ricky21tom
[08:11] <krishmish> peddy: ok
[08:11] <kisuke> paipimenta do you have physical access to the computer you are trying to fix?
[08:11] <krishmish> peddy: im using google talk and yahoo
[08:11] <Peddy> krishmish, neither of them work?
[08:11] <paipimenta> I'm on it
[08:11] <krishmish> peddy: no
[08:11] <paipimenta> kisuke: I'm currently on it
[08:12] <krishmish> peddy: but in the pidgin tools section how do i set the proxy??settingfs?
[08:12] <ssk2> prospire: i don't actually know, always used mv
[08:12] <kisuke> use a ubuntu liveCD go to system>partition editor this will let you resize the partition
[08:12] <prospire> ssk2: ok, thanks
[08:12] <kisuke> !download |paipimenta
[08:12] <krishmish> peddy: there are the following options
[08:12] <indus> hi
[08:13] <krishmish> peddy: stun server, ports, relay server
[08:13] <xQuasar> I've just installed Ubuntu, but the graphics seem to be a little slow. Do I have to install a driver for my graphics card (it's an integrated Intel graphics card, btw) for ubuntu?
[08:13] <krishmish> peddy: and at the last, proxy server and browser option with which the configure browser is enabled
[08:13] <ActionParsnip1> xQuasar: can you provide the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[08:14] <Peddy> krishmish, can you open 'gnome-network-properties'?
[08:14] <Peddy> krishmish, is the proxy info entered in there/
[08:14] <Si235> on unbuntu what do I do if I need to get into the rescue mode but I didn't set a root password, only a password for the default user it had me create?
[08:14] <Peddy> ?
[08:14] <Si235> I need to boot and stop freevo from starting.
[08:15] <Si235> its hanging my system.
[08:15] <ActionParsnip1> Si235: you can boot to root recovery mode and not need a password
[08:15] <RickyTom_> hey can u give me the name for the best backup solution so that i should not get confused
[08:15] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: there is no best anything
[08:15] <krishmish> peddy: how do i do that?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: best is an opinion so is not concrete
[08:15] <Si235> ActionPairs: I'm trying that it keeps asking me for a password, is there any other way to boot to not have Freevo start? It didn't do this before, and the only thing I changed in my system was the MTU for the network adapter.
[08:15] <kisuke> si235 these are one and the same whenever you do somehing that requires root access it askes you for that password you made
[08:15] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: one persons best is another mans worst
[08:16] <Peddy> krishmish, System>Preferences>Network Proxy
[08:16] <kisuke> !noroot | si235
[08:16] <stargate> losher, i love you ^_^
[08:16] <krishmish> peddy: yeah that i have already configured
[08:16] <kisuke> !root |si235
[08:16] <Si235> kisuke, is !noroot a option on Grub?
[08:16] <losher> stargate: something worked?
[08:17] <krishmish> peddy: and i have applied it system wide
[08:17] <Peddy> krishmish, is all the traffic on the computer going through the proxy?
[08:17] <Peddy> right
[08:17] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: you could use rsync to only backup what changes in a folder, or you can use one of the many tools to create timed backups which you can restore from
[08:17] <Si235> yeah I was using Sudo and not logging in as root when I've been doing maintence on my system.
[08:17] <dpr> hello to all i have a problem with network manager the it does not let me to enable wireless (it's grayed out) while my wifi adapter it's working properly (i can scan using the terminal "iwlist wlan2 scan" and  i can see the access points available) so anyone with any idea?
[08:17] <krishmish> peddy: yes
[08:17] <Peddy> krishmish, can you connect to the internet through your web browser?
[08:17] <stargate> losher, just had to beat it with a stick, but i got it working ^_^
[08:17] <krishmish> peddy: yes
[08:17] <RickyTom_> alright can any one help me with a bootable backup on DVD so that i can keep the back up in DVD just like the new manufacturer do
[08:17] <kisuke> si235 !noroot is a command for th bot in this room one moment please
[08:17] <krishmish> peddy:  i can even update thru the terminal
[08:17] <kisuke> !noroot > si235
[08:17] <Si235> !root
[08:17] <Si235> !noroot
[08:17] <kisuke> si235 that help any?
[08:18] <Si235> wait it started.
[08:18] <Peddy> krishmish, go accounts>yahoo>Edit account
[08:18] <Si235> it just took for ever.
[08:18] <stargate> osher, and now i am writting it up in script form, so i can just auto run it when i install the os.   no more live cd for me.
[08:18] <Si235> and looked like it was hung.
[08:18] <Peddy> krishmish, what does the 'proxy' tab say?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: you can remaster the Live CD with different settings and updated packages
[08:18] <krishmish> peddy: ok
[08:18] <stargate> losher, and now i am writting it up in script form, so i can just auto run it when i install the os.   no more live cd for me.
[08:18] <kisuke> si235 what are you tring to do that you started in recovery mode?
[08:18] <losher> stargate: very cool,,,
[08:18] <krishmish> peddy: its askin for proxy type, host, port username and password
[08:18] <RickyTom_> i am sorry that was a jargon for me
[08:18] <stargate> losher: ^_^ well, i'm off then,  thanks again ^_^
[08:19] <Peddy> krishmish, can you choose 'gnome settings'?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: or you could use partimage to create an image of your partitions which you can then spit back onto the disk using the same tool to restore
[08:19] <krishmish> peddy: yeah
[08:19] <mordocai> Hello, i was wondering if someone knew of any small open source projects that could use a beginner to intermediate programmer. I don't have too much time to devote right now, but would like to get involved in something fairly simple. Language doesn't matter, though i'd prefer c++.
[08:19] <Peddy> krishmish, under 'proxy type' choose 'use GNOME proxy settings'
[08:20] <Si235> kisuke, I changed the MTU on my eth0 to 9000 to support Jumbo packets.
[08:20] <krishmish> peddy: i did
[08:20] <Boohbah> mordocai: sourceforge.net, kde.org
[08:20] <alazyworkaholic> Does anyone know if stdin: error 0 on boot should be a serious or harmless error?
[08:20] <Si235> I edited the interfaces file I had created so that the change would take place on reboot...
[08:20] <krishmish> peddy: the error msg says, unable to connect
[08:20] <RickyTom_> hey can u give the name of the application
[08:20] <anybudy> I have connected to an ftp server using naulitus, but it cant change file permissions? any idea?
[08:20] <krishmish> access denied, http proxy server forbids port 5050 tunnelling
[08:20] <Boohbah> alazyworkaholic: depends on what script throws the error
[08:20] <RickyTom_> i install right now
[08:20] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: settings and updated packages is hardly jargon, the live CD is what you used to install the system. You can use remastering to change the ISO to have newer packages and add your own settings, kinda like customising the livecd
[08:21] <Boohbah> krishmish: is that the right port?
[08:21] <Si235> I installed unbuntu and it installed Freevo by default on my machine and it shows up on virtual console alt-F9.
[08:21] <Peddy> krishmish, oh... -Do  you own the proxy?
[08:21] <mordocai> Boohbah: Well yes, but searching through lists isn't exactly fun... i was hoping someone had run across something interesting.
[08:21] <krishmish> peddy: yes
[08:21] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: you cant use partimage from the installed system as the partitions are mounted and in use
[08:21] <Si235> but I can quit it from there, but I don't want to start it automatically.
[08:21] <onexused> I would like to log in with XDMCP to an Ubuntu host.  I followed this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/RemoteAccess, but the host still doesn't show up in the XDMCP chooser and when I try to add its IP manually, I'm told it "didn't respond".
[08:21] <krishmish> peddy: i do
[08:21] <kisuke> si235 did you try undoing that in  ubuntu it self? linux recovery mode is not like winwoze's at all
[08:21] <Boohbah> mordocai: 'interesting' is subjective
[08:21] <krishmish> peddy: im using squid
[08:21] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[08:21] <Peddy> krishmish, I imagine you'd have to enable port 5050 tunneling through SQUID. I don't know how, though
[08:21] <kisuke> si235 windoze's*
[08:22] <krishmish> peddy: ihave to open the port/
[08:22] <Boohbah> mordocai: http://xwax.co.uk/ is very interesting to me, though you'll need some additional hardware to hack on it
[08:22] <RickyTom_> thanx i will try that
[08:22] <Peddy> krishmish, is the proxy server inside your LAN?
[08:22] <krishmish> peddy: gimme a second lemme try opening that port
[08:22] <dpr> hello to all i have a problem with network manager the it does not let me to enable wireless (it's grayed out) while my wifi adapter it's working properly (i can scan using the terminal "iwlist wlan2 scan" and  i can see the access points available) so anyone with any idea?
[08:22] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: in ic, please write the person's name you are addressing
[08:23] <mordocai> Boohbah: Yes, but you could argue that anything is subjective :). And yeah.... that looks interesting, but i don't really have any money for extra hardware right now.
[08:23] <wrapster> how do i check the memory currently installed on my machine
[08:23] <alazyworkaholic> Boohbah: my netbook's F'd. I'm trying to recover the filesystem with e2fsck from a liveusb but not having luck. Starting to think it's hardware.
[08:23] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: see how my text is highlighted for you, thats not an accident
[08:23] <kisuke> .join #aircrack-ng
[08:23] <meatbun> 0_0
[08:23] <arooni_____> when i run from the command line: "/usr/bin/saytime -v 99 -f%P%l%M" i hear the comptuer speak the time.  but when i put that into crontab -e ... i hear nothing
[08:23] <RickyTom_> ok
[08:23] <ActionParsnip1> wrapster: reboot, ress esc when grub loads, select memtest
[08:23] <kisuke> opps XD
[08:23] <Miansc> im trying to make a new partition in vista, but im getting access denied.. any ideas?
[08:23] <krishmish> peddy: okay, i opened port 5050
[08:23] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: see how all my lines to you start with your name, thats how its done, you can use tab to autocomplete
[08:23] <Boohbah> alazyworkaholic: oh yeah, do things run ok from the liveusb? that would determine hardware or software failure
[08:24] <onexused> I would like to log in with XDMCP to an Ubuntu host.  I followed this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/RemoteAccess, but the host still doesn't show up in the XDMCP chooser and when I try to add its IP manually, I'm told it "didn't respond".  How do I get this to work?
[08:24] <krishmish> peddy: still the same issue
[08:24] <baoji> Hello, I'm installing Karmic from a LiveCD. Ubiquity isn't playing nice -- any ideas for installing without using ubiquity -- e.g. copying contents of the cd to the hard drive?
[08:24] <Boohbah> onexused: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX works for me
[08:24] <Si235> oddly I think it was the mtu setting in my interfaces file that caused the problem.
[08:24] <Si235> that doesn't make sense to me.
[08:25] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: type: Actio   then press tab
[08:25] <Si235> as I can ifconfig the interface and set the MTU and it works fine.
[08:25] <wrapster> ActionParsnip1: is there no way i can just see how much of memory is currently installed ?
[08:25] <kisuke> miansc several problems 1 you're useing windows, 2. you are not a member of the admin grop on said OS, 3 the channel for windows problems is #windows
[08:25] <wrapster> without switching off..
[08:25] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: then type what you want to say to me
[08:25] <Boohbah> wrapster: free -m
[08:25] <ActionParsnip1> wrapster: free -m
[08:25] <anybudy> I have connected to an ftp server using naulitus, but it cant change file permissions? any idea?
[08:25] <onexused> Boohbah: I saw that, but don't you have to already be logged in on the client to run that?
[08:25] <shubbar> my computer keeps hanging up just before the login screen
[08:25] <Si235> !wfm
[08:25] <shubbar> could it be a graphic problem?
[08:25] <Peddy> krishmish, try changing the 'pager' port to 80 or something in Yahoo account settings?
[08:26] <kisuke> si235 any luck?
[08:26] <Boohbah> onexused: what do you mean logged in on the client? the server does the authentication
[08:26] <wrapster> Boohbah: this is sad.. free -m shows a total of 4G while i have 6
[08:26] <RickyTom_> ActionParsnip1, hey is that fine
[08:26] <krishmish> peddy: ok i did
[08:26] <Boohbah> wrapster: does your kernel have highmem support?
[08:26] <Si235> kisuke, I was able to boot back in...
[08:26] <shubbar> i tried changing the power supply, but that didn't help
[08:26] <Boohbah> wrapster: does your bios show all the memory?
[08:26] <Si235> but I do need to know how to disable freevo from starting, and why the MTU would cause the system to hang when its on the freevo screen.
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: perfect :D
[08:27] <onexused> Boohbah: I meant that my understanding was that a person had to have an account on the client to log into, then run freenx to log into an account on the server.  Is that true?
[08:27] <wrapster> Boohbah: yes it does
[08:27] <wrapster> the bios says ~6G
[08:27] <krishmish> peddy: i tried using the same port as my proxy
[08:27] <RickyTom_> thank you for teaching me that
[08:27] <Peddy> !tab
[08:27] <krishmish> and 80 too
[08:27] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: it highlights the txt in a room of 1300 users and makes my client alert that someone talked to me
[08:27] <baoji> Anyone with some ubiquity nous?
[08:27] <wrapster> cant install VMs though i have memory...
[08:27] <Boohbah> onexused: yes, as is true with all remote desktop protocols... i'm not sure what you're asking
[08:27] <RickyTom_> ActionParsnip1, : thanks for teaching me that
[08:27] <Peddy> krishmish, it still fails?
[08:27] <wrapster> what can be done?
[08:27] <Si235> kisuke: I would think that it has a configure script or something that is run to stop it from running.
[08:28] <krishmish> yeah
[08:28] <Peddy> krishmish, when it fails with port 80, what is the error?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: np man. good job
[08:28] <onexused> Boohbah: With XDMCP, you don't have to log into the client.  That's what I want.  A 'thin client' sort of thing.
[08:28] <krishmish> peddy: it doesnt show any...its still showing connecting
[08:28] <krishmish> peddy: thats it
[08:29] <wrapster> Boohbah: should i install PAE
[08:29] <RickyTom_> ActionParsnip1: hey i did the setting also just like you
[08:29] <Si235> and what is the use of having a rescue mode if it asks for the root password when there isn't one?
[08:29] <Si235> I just wanted to drop down to a shell.
[08:29] <shubbar> i m planning to build a file server with software Raid5; Does anyone have recommendation on the hardware?
[08:29] <Boohbah> wrapster: for 32-bit...
[08:29] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: how do you mean?
[08:29] <wrapster> yes
[08:29] <Boohbah> onexused: but you have to be logged in to run the client.
[08:29] <wrapster> Boohbah: im on 32bit ubuntu 9.04 only
[08:30] <ActionParsnip1> wrapster: only if you have more than 4Gb ram with a 32bit CPU, otherwise just use 64bit Ubuntu
[08:30] <Boohbah> wrapster: well then yes, you will have to enable PAE to address 6GB memory on a 32-bit platform
[08:30] <Peddy> krishmish, try this for Google Talk - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5846942&postcount=3
[08:30] <wrapster> yes i have 6G of ram
[08:30] <Si235> shoudl I just remove the startup scripts for Freevo in the rc0.d and other related directories? or is there a better more reccomended method to stop it from automatically being started at boot up?
[08:30] <alazyworkaholic> Boohbah: I get 4 stdin: error 0 messages a couple more about assuming drive cache: write through, more stdin's (~10) Showdow passowrds are now on, adduser: The user 'ubuntu already exists... & other more normal looking messages during boot of 9.10 A6 liveusb. Once that happens the machine works fine. I'm starting to think the ssd died (after 8 months light use???) because 10 e2fsck's eventually left the filesystem clea
[08:30] <Peddy> krishmish, those are the settings you need to configure Gtalk with
[08:30] <krishmish> peddy: ok
[08:30] <anybudy> does using a kde software cause any performance issue under ubuntu?
[08:30] <Steil> hey guys what happened to gaybuntu?the website does not work anymore
[08:31] <RickyTom_> ActionParsnip1: hey can you help me with server edtion too
[08:31] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: ask the channel
[08:31] <Bluey> anybudy - well it depends whether or not your running it under gnome
[08:31] <Boohbah> alazyworkaholic: well, i wouldn't be using a development distribution to determine hardware failure, use something more stable
[08:31] <anybudy> yes under gnome
[08:31] <Bluey> anybudy KDE apps under gnome will cause the cache cleaner to launch - it hurts nothing but it's annoying
[08:31] <RickyTom_> ActionParsnip1: i am sorry i did not understood that
[08:32] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: instead of asking just me, ask everybody
[08:32] <onexused> Boohbah: You have to be logged into -somewhere-.  You -don't- have to log in on the local machine with some things (XDMCP).  You log into the host/server -from- the local machine.
[08:32] <Boohbah> anybudy: loading gtk+ and kdelibs will take some memory, yes
[08:32] <Bluey> boohbah - true that
[08:32] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey: log a bug
[08:32] <Si235> or is it init.d where I would remove the startup scripts?
[08:32] <Bluey> action -- I did - it's a known bug
[08:32] <onexused> Boohbah: But I won't keep arguing with you about it.
[08:32]  * Si235 feels a little lost.
[08:32] <alazyworkaholic> Unrelated... Can someone tell me if this is normal? Wireless transfer of 500MB between two laptops that are less than 2 meters from a wireless g router is going at 1 MB/s tops. Shouldn't I be able to hit ~5 MB/s working at 54 Mb/s?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey: cool
[08:32] <RickyTom_> ActionParsnip1: ok i hope you are bored with me
[08:33] <kisuke> -si235 i beleve so
[08:33] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: no its just good netiquette
[08:33] <anybudy> only when running the software? it wont load it on every boot?
[08:33] <kisuke> !init
[08:33] <alazyworkaholic> Boohbah: ok, I'll try the beta when it comes out later & see if things work better. Thanks,
[08:33] <krishmish> peddy: i got it working for gtalk
[08:33] <chilli0> Are there any alarm programs available for ubuntu ?
[08:33] <Bluey> chilli0 yes kontact
[08:33] <ActionParsnip1> chilli0: at
[08:34] <baoji> Can I just copy a LiveCD to my filesystem to install, or do I need to do more?
[08:34] <kisuke> chilli0 orage the calender program for ubuntu has an alarm function
[08:34] <Steil> hey guys what happened to gaybuntu?the website does not work anymore
[08:34] <Si235> also isn't there some sample interfaces files for network configuration so I can make sure I"m not doing somehting weird.
[08:34] <anybudy> any ftp software recommendation for gnome?
[08:34] <{g}> Hey, how do I find out which ubuntu version im running?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip1> baoji: you can use special tools to put the live CD direct onto a US disk so I dont see why not, you will need to do a lot of the stuff the installer does manually
[08:34] <Boohbah> alazyworkaholic: why not get a hardy or jaunty usb image?
[08:34] <kisuke> baoji run the live cd and tha will walk you though an install after you click the install icon on the desktop
[08:35] <ActionParsnip1> !ftp | anybudy
[08:35] <Steil> hey guys what happened to gaybuntu?the website does not work anymore
[08:35] <ActionParsnip1> {g}: lsb_release -a
[08:35] <harisund> {g}, I think lsb_release -a does it
[08:35] <Bluey> anybudy client or server?
[08:35] <{g}> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[08:35] <baoji> kisuke, thanks. I'm running the LiveCD now and unfortunately the installer doesn't work, so I'm looking for alternatives :)
[08:35] <Steil> hey guys what happened to gaybuntu?the website does not work anymore
[08:35] <RickyTom_> ActionParsnip1: hey which application you recommended to me for backing up the windows partition
[08:35] <Boohbah> Steil: i would check for a PEBKAC error on your end
[08:36] <{g}> Is Reiser4 installed by default in Ubuntu9.04?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: if you want the WHOLE partiton I'd go for partimage
[08:36] <anybudy> Bluey:  client, I have tried naulitus, but it doesnt change the remote folder permissions
[08:36] <baoji> ActionParsnip1, thank you. Yes, I imagine so. Obviously I'll need to create a user, for example. But the idea is workable in practice?
[08:36] <Bluey> {g} try cat /etc/issue
[08:36] <Bluey> anybudy - I use filezilla --
[08:36] <{g}> Bluey: thanks
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> baoji: it can work, its just a bit messy. The installer is much more graceful
[08:37] <Bluey> but if you want a command line instead of gui -- I use ncftp
[08:37] <krishmish> peddy: im yet to get thru with yahoo
[08:37] <RickyTom_> ActionParsnip1: i have searched for the partimage but not able to get in add/remove list
[08:37] <anybudy> Bluey: I couldnt find it in "add/remove softare"
[08:37] <Boohbah> anybudy: also try lftp
[08:37] <Faulty> Hello guys! I put Karmic Koala on a USB stick and omg how fast it is :D i'm so amazed the speed is incredible :)
[08:37] <ActionParsnip1> !info partimage
[08:37] <Bluey> anybudy hang on a sec...
[08:37] <krishmish> peddy: im now able to work with gtalk
[08:37] <Boohbah> Faulty: omg so fast!!
[08:37] <ActionParsnip1> RickyTom_: make sure you have the optional repos enabled in synaptic
[08:38] <vadviktor> does anyone know how can I set the disc cash flush interval on ext4?
[08:38] <anybudy> Bluey: FileZilla FTP client cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type.
[08:38] <Faulty> Boohbah: yeah it's really fast blows my mind :D
[08:38] <RickyTom_> ActionParsnip1: ok wait
[08:38] <Bluey> anybudy try:  sudo apt-cache search filezilla
[08:38] <kisuke> baoji what error did you get?
[08:38] <Si235> is it a bad idea to use Jumbo packets?
[08:38] <Bluey> ooops sudo apt-get install filezilla
[08:38] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey: apt-cache doesnt need sudo
[08:38] <ssk2> Si235: depends on context
[08:38] <{g}> ActionParsnip1: is that better then cat /dev/sdax | gzip > x_backup ?
[08:39] <Steil> 'Boohbah, why you say its my problem that gaybuntu site is not work?
[08:39] <Bluey> action you are correct
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> {g}: its another way, not better, not worse
[08:39] <ssk2> Si235: when streaming to my X-Box running XBMC it struggles with jumbos
[08:39] <anybudy> Bluey: I am trying it.
[08:39] <baoji> kisuke, installer crashed after completing the initial questions. The partitioner screen briefly came up and then crashed. Apport observed that it crashed with an AttributeError in install().
[08:40] <Faulty> btw, i'm running on my dad's computer it has a Intel 7300 processor is that any good?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: how much ram?
[08:40] <kisuke> sounds like a bad install
[08:40] <Faulty> ActionParsnip1: only 2GB
[08:40] <{g}> Hey People, another Question! I want to archive 100mb of textfiles and compress them as much as possible. will probably not read them for years. but i want to use a tool that will be available for as long as possible. what would you use? currently i think i will use "gzip -9".
[08:40] <kisuke> baoji sounds like a bad burn
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: more than ive got
[08:40] <anybudy> After password change network connection applet requires keyring on each login,
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: whats the system for?
[08:40] <Si235> I have a layer 3 managed Gigabit / Fibre switch I'm connecting between my two comptuers.
[08:41] <Faulty> ActionParsnip1: it's just for office stuff but when i'm around it's a bit different you know :)
[08:41] <Si235> and my PPC machine supports jumbo packets pretty well.
[08:41] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: then its way more than he'll need
[08:41] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: you dont need a ferarri to drive to the shops and back once a day
[08:42] <Faulty> ActionParsnip1: do you also have E-7300? :D
[08:42] <alazyworkaholic> Anyone know of a good writeup on how ubuntu one's supposed to work to synchronize files?
[08:42] <vadviktor> does anyone know how can I set the disc cash flush interval on ext4?
[08:42] <kisuke> sudo apt-get subversion
[08:42] <kisuke> \opps wrong window XD
[08:42] <anybudy> Bluey: thank you.
[08:42] <Bluey> anybudy that work?
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: i run a full compiz deskto pwith all the bells and whictles on a cpu half that speed and only one core
[08:43] <kisuke> {g} try p7zip
[08:43] <anybudy> Bluey: yes, thank you.
[08:43] <RickyTom_> ActionParsnip1: thankyou very much
[08:43] <Bluey> anybudy -- ur welcome - enjoy!
[08:43] <chilli0> ActionParsnip1:  How do i use at?
[08:43] <baoji> kisuke, I'm hoping it isn't because I have limited access to a CD-burner. I have reinstalled ubiquity (and  now am installing parted) into memory which I would think would ameliorate a bad burn.
[08:43] <kisuke> baoji try re burning the CD
[08:43] <RHELee> What do you think of ext4?
[08:43] <fedrawi> Why firefox consumption and xorg up 80% of the Wizard
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> chilli0: its very primitive. let me find a guide
[08:44] <chilli0> ActionParsnip1:  k
[08:44] <fedrawi> The Ram is currently only 500 megabytes
[08:44] <kisuke> baoji that should work
[08:44] <Gnea> fedrawi: it's not working?
[08:44] <anybudy> Bluey: I wish I could use naulitus, I also wonder the cause of it, why it doesnt change the perms...
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> chilli0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV   read the very bottom. Just change the command to something like: mplayer Pantera\ Cowboys\ from\hell.mp3 or something and leave your speakers on ;)
[08:45] <Faulty> ActionParsnip1: nice :) the only downside with this mothearboard is the the graphics card is intergrated
[08:45] <Bluey> anybudy -- well ftp requires an ftp client - and they are a plenty --
[08:45] <fedrawi> Gnea, How to solve the problem, please
[08:45] <Faulty> ActionParsnip1: gotta buy a PCI-E card
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: i have integrated nvidia here
[08:45] <fedrawi> I'm sorry for my weak
[08:45] <Gnea> fedrawi: you haven't pinpointed the problem. please do so.
[08:45] <Bluey> action - me too
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: if he's only browsing the web, why is a big beefy gfx card needed?
[08:45] <Faulty> ActionParsnip1: this is Intel X4500
[08:45] <Boohbah> Faulty: are you going to do some heavy 3d gaming on ubuntu?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: those are supported nicely
[08:46] <Gnea> fedrawi: are you talking about the installer on the livecd?
[08:46] <Faulty> ActionParsnip1: because I like to play games sometime :P... and Ubuntu is not installed on this computer I'm just running it of a USB Stick
[08:46] <fedrawi> Gnea, I have a processor consumes more of RAM
[08:46] <anybudy> Bluey: yes you are right but it raises another question for me, I used "add/remove software" button on my gnome menu to search for filezilla
[08:46] <Flannel> fedrawi: Would you prefer support in arabic?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: i though this was mainly office + web based. If you want games grab an nvidia card and you will have an easy life
[08:47] <anybudy> Bluey: "FileZilla FTP client cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type"
[08:47] <Boohbah> anybudy: you need to enable universe and multiverse repositories through "Software Sources"
[08:47] <fedrawi> Flannel, I did not have a solution
[08:47] <Gnea> !arabic | fedrawi
[08:47] <Bluey> anybudy should be under applications/internet
[08:47] <Boohbah> anybudy: oh really, that's strange
[08:47] <fedrawi> Gnea, yes
[08:47] <ActionParsnip1> chilli0: nice huh, you could write a script to use zenity too to show a popup onscreen and suchlike
[08:47] <fedrawi> ok ubottu
[08:47] <Faulty> ActionParsnip1: Yeah that's true but .. hmm yes it's my dad's computer but I could get a new graphics card ...
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: provided there is a slot for one, some intels game ok though
[08:48] <Gnea> fedrawi: they can probably help you better than I/we can :)
[08:48] <Faulty> ActionParsnip1: my own computer is a AMD 3200 + ... LOL my friends say I live in the stone age :D :D
[08:48] <Boohbah> anybudy: i just installed filezilla on a 32-bit machine with karmic...
[08:48] <fedrawi> Gnea,  I can not find one of the Arabian Canal
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: my most powerful is a 3000 AM2 Semperon
[08:49] <Boohbah> fedrawi: /join #ubuntu-arabic
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: i have old systems galore
[08:49] <Steil> hey guys what happened to gaybuntu?the website does not work anymore
[08:49] <Gnea> fedrawi: in your xchat window, type this:  /join #ubuntu-arabic
[08:49] <anybudy> Boohbah: i installed it using command line as Bluey recommended.
[08:49] <Faulty> ActionParsnip1: hihi :)
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> Faulty: if it does what you need at an acceptible speed, save your money
[08:49] <fedrawi> Gnea, No one is the Arabian Canal
[08:49] <anybudy> Boohbah: but the "add/remove software" says : "FileZilla FTP client cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type"
[08:50] <Gnea> fedrawi: oh my...
[08:50] <fedrawi> Gnea,  Do you understand my problem
[08:50] <DeathFox> how do i change the logon image in ubuntu
[08:50] <Gnea> fedrawi: not entirely, but I can try
[08:50] <DeathFox> i wanted to customize it
[08:50] <Faulty> ActionParsnip1: yeah I have not even tried playing games on it just because I heard alot of bad things about this X4500
[08:50] <Boohbah> anybudy: as long as you can install it with apt-get that's fine... i don't use the add/remove software
[08:50] <fedrawi> Gnea,  Why the processor consumes more of RAM
[08:51] <Gnea> fedrawi: I want to understand - are you trying to install the system or is it already installed to the hard drive?
[08:51] <Boohbah> fedrawi: Xorg and firefox are CPU-intensive, they have to draw lots of graphics... you may reduce memory/CPU usage by disabling compiz if it's running
[08:51] <fedrawi> Gnea,  Sticky
[08:51] <Ubunuing> hello :) was wondering if someone has received an invite to google wave yet
[08:52] <Si235> how do I test my network configuration from the interface file and have it reload?
[08:52] <Gnea> fedrawi: does that mean it's running off of the hard drive?
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> Boohbah: ive found the alpha flash in firefox uses less cpu than the one on the repos
[08:52] <fedrawi> To Aastkhaddm compiz
[08:52] <Boohbah> fedrawi: and a system running from livecd or liveusb will consume more resources than a system installed on your hard drive
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> Boohbah: well the alpha 64bit one
[08:52] <Bluey> action -- true that...
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey: i jumped to chrome now, its spiffy
[08:52] <Boohbah> ActionParsnip1: good to hear 64-bit flash is getting better, maybe i can upgrade to a 64-bit desktop soon :)
[08:53] <fedrawi> Gnea, I installed on the hard drive
[08:53] <fedrawi> Boohbah,  I installed on the hard drive
[08:53] <Bluey> action - Is chrome available for linux?
[08:53] <kisuke> bluey yes it is
[08:53] <Gnea> fedrawi: What speed is your CPU?
[08:53] <Bluey> kisuke - let me see if I can find it...
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey: indeed
[08:53] <DeathFox> how do i change the login image in ubunutu
[08:53] <Boohbah> Bluey: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[08:54] <Bluey> thanks
[08:54] <kisuke> bluey i have it right here
[08:54] <Bluey> ahh it's a beta....
[08:54] <fedrawi> Gnea, http://www.fpaste.org/Ewds/
[08:54] <Bluey> yeah I got that in firefox...
[08:54] <Boohbah> Bluey: yes, the linux version is very new... very exciting!
[08:54] <Si235> is there a way to have synergy work in the GDM login window?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> DeathFox: http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/09/22/how-to-change-your-login-screen-in-ubuntugnome/
[08:55] <Si235> it works fine in X11, but not in my login windo.
[08:55] <Boohbah> Bluey: webkit beats gecko hard.
[08:55] <Bluey> okay reading page now...
[08:55] <paipimenta> alright... I booted up with a Live CD, now I need to know how to resize my /dev/sda2
[08:55] <paipimenta> I ran sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[08:55] <Boohbah> paipimenta: gparted
[08:55] <Si235> when the login window is active (gdm), is it running under X11?
[08:56] <Gnea> fedrawi: at 512M of ram, it can consume a lot of swap if you have a lot of programs running. In addition, gnome programs themselves can be memory-intensive hogs.
[08:56] <Boohbah> paipimenta: gksudo gparted
[08:56] <paipimenta> it's a LVM partition!
[08:56] <Evelina> How do I get sed to work whatever the pattern is uppercase or lowercase? Is there any way to let sed do the replacement independent of characters case?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey: copy or symlink the libflashplugin.so file in /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/   and run chrome with: chromium-browser --enable-plugins
[08:56] <paipimenta> gparted doesn't support that
[08:56] <Boohbah> paipimenta: oh, oh, don't do that then! :)
[08:56] <paipimenta> will fdisk work?
[08:56] <Bluey> action - I am trying to find d/l now
[08:56] <paipimenta> and if so, i ran sudo fdisk /dev/sda... does x, c change # of cylinders on certain partition? or whole disk?
[08:56] <Boohbah> paipimenta: no, use lvm tools https://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2006-August/msg00081.html
[08:57] <fedrawi> Gnea, I will show pictures of the consumption ok
[08:57] <Gnea> fedrawi: okay
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey: use the link Boohbah gave: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey: add repo, add key, apt-get install
[08:57] <Bluey> action - I am there --
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey: then run: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:58] <kisuke> bluey tutorial right here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-chromium-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-using-deb-package.html
[08:58] <Si235> I figured out what caused my system to hang, apparently when I edited the /etc/network/interfaces file, I set mtu=9000 instead of mtu 9000, and that equals sign caused a system freeze that eventually I was able to bypass by booting with system networking disabled from the grub boot loader rescue menu.
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey: click the green arro on the site to reveal the repo address
[08:58] <paipimenta> awww... but I want to install Windows on an NTFS partition that I'm going to create
[08:58] <paipimenta> I can't install Windows on a logical volume, can I?
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> paipimenta: sure you can
[08:59] <Madsy> Where has libqt4-phonon and libqt4-phonon-dev gone? Anyone knows?
[08:59] <Gnea> paipimenta: the people in ##windows could give you a more definitive answer
[08:59] <Bluey> didn't work let me try agian
[09:00] <bogdan> hello matherfuckers
[09:00] <paipimenta> can I burn an .iso straight from USB to DVD? I don't think I'll have enough space to download or copy that windows iso to hard disk
[09:00] <jobhopeful> whats the best feature coming in 9.10?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> !karmic | jobhopeful
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> !best | jobhopeful
[09:01] <bogdan> is any matherfucker onthis page ?
[09:01] <Si235> I can't beleive how many people are on this forum, its literally over a 1000, insanely cool.
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> !ohmy | bogdan
[09:01] <whois> bogdan: watch your language.
[09:01] <jobhopeful> damn  I was just womdering shesh
[09:01] <EasyTUX> Deryl is the fuckiest person, I've ever known anybody to be so fucking sucking MAD !!! though efnet rules surely...
[09:01] <paipimenta> not especially.. .when you get lost in the scroll
[09:02] <wrapster> Boohbah: what i get after a reboot is even more weird... i have 6G of memory and it shows ~8
[09:02] <fedrawi> Gnea,  http://www.7ammil.com/upfiles/oyh84115.jpg
[09:02] <Si235> there is a energy that is really cool here.
[09:02] <wrapster> 5.7G +2.4
[09:02] <Si235> I just wish I could fully move from OS X into linux, but baby steps.
[09:02] <bogdan> chill out gays
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> !ohmy | EasyTUX
[09:03] <csaba_> I have a list of PIDs in a file, how can I kill them all with one command? kill -9 | cat file didn't work
[09:03] <jobhopeful> os x sux!
[09:03] <kisuke> !language | bogdan
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> csaba_: kill -9 < file     maybe
[09:03] <jobhopeful> i dont like it at all
[09:03] <EasyTUX> ubottu: Ok ubuntu botty... ;)
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> jobhopeful: do you have an ubuntu question?
[09:03] <fedrawi> Gnea, firefox Almstvh not consume much because I did not open many sites
[09:04] <paipimenta> hmmm.... my lvm pvs says it's 25G, and my lvm vgs says it's 25G
[09:04] <jobhopeful> ubottu is annoying
[09:04] <paipimenta> but fdisk says the partition takes up the entire disk space
[09:04] <Madsy> csaba_: I don't know if it is the best approach, but you could use use cat and xargs.
[09:04] <Bluey> installing chromium now...
[09:04] <jobhopeful> well that explains it
[09:04] <paipimenta> or, the second partition takes cylinder 26-7297 out of 7297 possible
[09:04] <EasyTUX> Error: Ok ubuntu botty... :)
[09:04] <browncouch> anyone here know how to access an ftp server behind a router? I have my ports set up properly...please be nice :)
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> Bluey: nice, remember the 2 extra steps
[09:04] <csaba_> ActionParsnip1, Madsy: isn't there something like an exec command which can do this?
[09:05] <Madsy> Not that I know of.
[09:05] <randy2009> can someone give me a link on how cpu usage/load works in ubuntu?
[09:05] <nazgjunk> browncouch: it should work when your portforwards are set up right
[09:05] <Madsy> kill takes one process at a time. killall can take regex.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> browncouch: you must forward a port to the port you are running FTP on (usually 21), some routers only allow ports to be forwarded from the same por external to the same internal port
[09:05] <paipimenta> off to #lvm
[09:05] <Si235> what does it mean when a process has a question mark to the right of the PID?
[09:06] <browncouch> well it works internally...but I must not be logging into it properly... i am kind of new to server setup
[09:06] <OzFalcon> Hey can anyone open pavucontrol?
[09:06] <Gnea> fedrawi: well, your list there is only semi-complete, so I'm guessing that there are a LOT of programs running - they all add up
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> csaba_: for pidnum in cat file; do kill -9 $pidnum; done
[09:07] <OzFalcon> mine has just stopped working for some reason. (9.04)
[09:07] <Gnea> fedrawi: my suggestion would be to either add more RAM to the system (1G or 2G total should run very nicely), or use a version of Ubuntu that is less resource-intensive, such as Xubuntu
[09:08] <OzFalcon> Can everyone open pulse audio control or just me having problems?
[09:08] <Bluey> works!
[09:08] <fedrawi> Gnea, Believe me, I did not bother many programs
[09:09] <OzFalcon> Bluey, pavucontol?
[09:09] <Si235> does anyone here run Maya 2009 or similar on Ubuntu?
[09:09] <iceroot> can you recommend an imap-client for CLI? maybe something with a little menu (like yast or other ncurse-stuff)
[09:09] <Bluey> ozfalcon - what's that?
[09:09] <paipimenta> I've got one hard disk, two partitions, a /boot and a root LVM
[09:09] <baoji> kisuke, no luck after reinstalling parted & ubiquity.
[09:09] <OzFalcon> Can you run pavucontrol?
[09:09] <csaba_> ActionParsnip1: ah good, I just needed to put cat test between ` `
[09:09] <Gnea> fedrawi: Right, but the default Ubuntu uses Gnome, which is itself memory-intensive.
[09:09] <kelto> hi =)
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> csaba_: nice
[09:10] <Bluey> ozfalcon I don't know - I've never/seen heard of it..
[09:10] <paipimenta> I want 3 partitions, one boot, one lVM, and one NTFS
[09:10] <OzFalcon> nevermind
[09:10] <paipimenta> how do I shrink the LVM partition? I already shrank the vg and the pv to 25Gig
[09:10] <Bluey> ozfalcon - nope says I can install it...
[09:10] <sinan> i am having some trouble booting up, something about fsck complaining that last mount time was in the future. The exact error message is here (http://pastie.org/637760), any ideas?
[09:10] <Bluey> ozfalcon - what does it do?
[09:10] <paipimenta> but the partition still takes up all but 25 of the 7297 cylinders on my HD
[09:10] <zaoul> How can I run zenmap as root? I get : warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning) gtk.GtkWarning: could not open display
[09:11] <fedrawi> Gnea, My memory 4g
[09:11] <Gnea> fedrawi: The only thing that looks odd there would be rsyslog, so if it's writing to a database, that could be taking up a lot of resources.
[09:11] <disappearedng> Hey anyone can recommend me some good flow chart software on linux to draft my app
[09:11] <Gnea> fedrawi: good point - I hadn't noticed that. You said initially 500M
[09:11] <zaoul> disappearedng: kivio or dia
[09:12] <zaoul> disappearedng: or use a mindmap
[09:12] <DuckGod> hey can someone help me out?
[09:12] <zaoul> disappearedng: freemind
[09:12] <zaoul> so yea zenmap anyone?
[09:12] <zaoul> as root
[09:12] <disappearedng> DIA sucks
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> csaba_: if its something you use a lot, make a script that takes an arg (the file name) and will kill the PIDs for you
[09:12] <paipimenta> sudo zenmap :-D
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | DuckGod
[09:13] <csaba_> ActionParsnip1: yeah I'll do just that thanks
[09:13] <zaoul> paipimenta: :-D ... its 4am thats my excuse
[09:13] <zaoul> thanks
[09:13] <Bluey> thanks for the tips on chromium will try it out tomorrow --
[09:13] <disappearedng> I like this pipe syntax implemented inside ubottu
[09:13] <Bluey> off to bed...
[09:13] <paipimenta> woo hoo! it worked!
[09:14] <paipimenta> I need some voice here
[09:14] <paipimenta> no prob zaoul
[09:14] <masutaa> hello
[09:14] <paipimenta> wow... time to hit up some enterprise linux rooms for this partition crap
[09:15] <paipimenta> (and by enterprise linux rooms, I mean my bed)
[09:15] <DuckGod> ok so when i try to install jaunty on my second pc it installs all the way then when i reboot it says existing intel boot agent and wont go any further....
[09:15] <kisuke> baoji what does sudo lspci -vv rrturn (sudo because w/o it you tend to miss things
[09:15] <Si235> okay I identified the init scripts that invoke the startup of Freevo in the /etc/init.d , would there be anywhere else I would have to look for it starting up its services, or issues I could encounter?
[09:15] <OzFalcon> Bluey, It's the Pulse Audio control panel.
[09:15] <fedrawi> Gnea, I said that he is unable to absorb dislocated 500
[09:15] <OzFalcon> Bluey, Problem solved now.
[09:15] <Gnea> fedrawi: Sorry, I misunderstood.
[09:15] <browncouch> sinan still around?
[09:16] <masutaa> just installed jaunty.. I have ati rage128 and I want to know if ubuntu is using ati's drivers or not
[09:16] <masutaa> since it's kinda slow
[09:16] <sinan> browncouch: i am here :)
[09:17] <kisuke> baoji place it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:17] <fedrawi> Gnea, I thank you very important because you are respectful and pleasant and helpful
[09:17] <G_A_C> anyone know if there's a specific channel for Karmic discussion?
[09:17] <fedrawi> Gnea, اسف على ازعاجك اخي
[09:17] <browncouch> sinan: I don't know what it would be called but may there is a file you can edit with gedit or vim somewhere in root
[09:17] <fedrawi> Gnea, Sorry to bother my brother
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> !karmic | G_A_C
[09:17] <onats> anyone know of a good music visualizer?
[09:17] <G_A_C> ta :)
[09:17] <DuckGod> and hitting that will bypass the bootagent?
[09:18] <kisuke> baoji and place the link here
[09:18] <Error> ubottu: You're as intelligent as deryl neh ?
[09:18] <sinan> browncouch: what is the file related to ? how can i find it ?
[09:18] <browncouch> sinan:one of your scripts in init.d is messed up for some reason
[09:18] <baoji> kisuke, http://paste.ubuntu.com/282819/
[09:18] <Error> ubottu: :)
[09:18] <sinan> browncouch: how do you suggest i proceed from here?
[09:19] <masutaa> brb
[09:19] <Error> ubottu: Stupid bot !
[09:19] <browncouch> sinan: possibly a result with a change in bios...or something...I wouls suggest googling for the file that holds mounting history...or a log of some sort...i am googling...to see if i can find the related file
[09:19] <baoji> kisuke, unfortunately I have to go now, but thanks for your help! I will leave IRC up in case you want to /msg me. Perhaps I'll run into you later... :)
[09:20] <sinan> browncouch: i have the syslog and dmesg, but can't find much useful stuff there
[09:20] <Error> ubottu: bot !
[09:20] <Error> ubottu: ubuntu !
[09:20] <kisuke> !raid > kisuke
[09:21] <Gnea> fedrawi: you are welcome
[09:21] <bullgard> Yesterday I installed Empathy. It worked. Today the Contact List reports: "New Jabber Account; Name in use". What does that mean? I cannot see any contact names in the Contact List.
[09:21] <DuckGod> ok so when i try to install jaunty on my second pc it installs all the way then when i reboot it says existing intel boot agent and wont go any further....how do i bypass that?
[09:21] <Sorry> ubottu: u shit !
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard: someone is logged on with the same name, or you are logged i someplace else
[09:21] <Sorry> O!
[09:21] <timClicks> launchpad Q, is there a way to configure mailing lists to default to reply to the list, rather than the sender?
[09:22] <Boohbah> Sorry: please stop the bot abuse
[09:22] <browncouch> sinan:this is happening when you try to login and mount your hd?
[09:22] <Sorry> Boohbah: Sorry, are you a bot ?
[09:22] <sinan> browncouch: when booting up
[09:22] <bullgard> ActionParsnip1: What do you mean by "name"?
[09:22] <Boohbah> Sorry: no
[09:22] <Sorry> np
[09:23] <Sorry> ;)
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard: the user name you are trying to logon with
[09:23] <sinan> browncouch: i will try to restart in single-user mode and see what happens :)
[09:24] <miron721> Ok, I have no idea on what to do here. So I installed ubuntu through a live cd, worked perfectly, no issues. Wrote over an existing partition. I tried booting and it's just been stuck blinking "_" for about 4 hours or so.
[09:25] <miron721> Anyone know of a fix?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> miron721: what changed to trigger the issue?
[09:26] <miron721> Nothing changed. Went from only windows, no grub to overwriting an old unused partition. Don't know if that partition ever worked, salvaged the hdd from an old computer
[09:26] <miron721> I reformatted it though, so I don't think it's an hdd issue
[09:27] <Miansc> hey guys
[09:27] <ActionParsnip1> did you verify the CD once initially booted to? Did you MD5 check the ISO you used?
[09:27] <kisuke> actionparsnip1 miron721 sounds like a GRUB config problem
[09:27] <Miansc> im trying to boot from the cd on startup to install
[09:27] <Miansc> i dunnowhic f key to press but
[09:28] <godstar> kisuke: did you fix your issues from yesterday?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> miron721: does grub load before the cursor flashes?
[09:28] <Miansc> does anyone know??
[09:28] <kisuke> godsatr nope
[09:28] <kisuke> godstar nope
[09:28] <miron721> ActionParsnip1, Yeah, grub loads. Neither the regular option or the recovery version work. Haven't tried windows or memtest though
[09:28] <godstar> Miansc: try F12 for the boot menu
[09:29] <masutaa> miron721: I've seen problems in hdds where the boot sectors were damaged.  it's rare but it happens
[09:29] <Miansc> i did
[09:29] <Miansc> well pretty sure i did
[09:29] <godstar> Miansc: try F2 or Delete Key for BIOS
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> miron721: do you get the loading splash screen and the bar progressing?
[09:29] <bullgard> ActionParsnip1: As far as I know, Empathy does use a "user name" to log on the Jabber network. Rather, it uses a Jabber identity. Do you mean the Jabber identity JID?
[09:29] <kisuke> mainsc press "enter" or "return" depending on your keyboard
[09:29] <Miansc> kk
[09:29] <Miansc> ill try enter f12 and delete lol
[09:29] <Miansc> brb
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard: if thats what it uses, sure
[09:29] <godstar> kisuke: Sorry to hear
[09:30] <masutaa> miron721: get ubcd and check/repair your hdd.  you might also try low-level formatting your hdd
[09:30] <miron721> ActionParsnip1, Nope, and with my laptop running nbr, it usually flashes the _ for a few seconds, then flashes a few lines of text then the splash
[09:31] <miron721> masutaa, I can do all that from the live cd, right? I installed ubuntu because my windows is broken somehow. So I only have my netbook without a cd drive.
[09:31] <bullgard> ActionParsnip1: I doubt hat you are right. I am using the same JID today as yeserday, and it worked yesterday.
[09:31] <ActionParsnip1> ok, did you install video drivers recently?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard: but if you are logged in elsewhere will it still let you log in where you are now?
[09:32] <miron721> ActionParsnip1, Nope, this is the first boot. Fresh from install
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> miron721: ok then i would check the cd you installed with as well as md5 test the iso
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> miron721: a bad disk will make a bad install
[09:33] <godstar> miron721: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[09:33] <godstar> miron721: if you already have it installed on your SSD, disregard.
[09:34] <miron721> godstar, Not using ssds, if that makes a difference.
[09:34] <godstar> miron721: you can still follow that guide for IDE / sata drives.
[09:34] <bullgard> ActionParsnip1: Yesterday I was logged in on my computer T43. Today I'm trying to login on my computer T43. Today it fails. My JID is not logged in elsewhere as far as I know.
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard: i'm not overly familiar with jabber but thats all i can think it would be
[09:36] <ja2> Hi, I'd like to recompile the kernel, but would like to start the configuration from what I already have from ubuntu 8.04. There is no config.gz in /proc. Anyone who know where to get the x86_64 config for the ubuntu 8.04 2.6.24-24 kernel?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard: you ould find a site or tool that could test if you were online or not, or use a different account to check
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard: otherwise i'm outta ideas
[09:37] <miron721> Ok, did the "Check disk integrity" off the boot cd. No errors found. And I deleted the .iso I burned it from, should I make another cd and try intalling again
[09:37] <Guest12345> Where can I find Ubuntu 9.10 Beta?
[09:38] <godstar> miron721: are you trying to install Ubuntu on your netbook?
[09:38] <miron721> godstar, No, got ubuntu nbr running fine. I'm trying to install on my desktop
[09:39] <godstar> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/alpha-6/
[09:40] <godstar> miron721: 1 HDD or 2?
[09:40] <Guest12345> No, not Alpha 6. Is the beta release supposed to come out today?
[09:40] <Guest39493> who changes my nick ????????????
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> miron721: if the cd is ok, chances are the image was too, you SHOULD check before burning.
[09:40] <godstar> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[09:40] <Flannel> Guest39493: #ubuntu+1 is the place to go to ask questions about Karmic, this channe is only for supported releases of Ubuntu.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> Guest39493: the system, there is somebody already called "you" logged onto the server
[09:41] <ja2> Solved. Found my config.
[09:41] <godstar> miron721: where are you having trouble during the install?
[09:42] <miron721> godstar, install went perfectly. No errors. And it's 2 sata hdds, 1 sata optical drive
[09:42] <godstar> miron721: then what is the problem?
[09:43] <miron721> godstar, it doesn't boot. Without the cd in, I select ubuntu in the grub, and it sticks at a flashing "_". Longest I've left it is 4 hours.
[09:43] <godstar> hmm
[09:44] <kisuke1> mirion i still say it sounds like grub was configured wrong
[09:44] <godstar> miron721: do you have anything on the separate HDD? If not reload Ubuntu on it. You could also put gparted on a flash drive reformation the HDD that wont boot.
[09:44] <miron721> kisuke, That might be. How would I fix that? Keeping in mind I don't have anything that can boot on here other than the live cd.
[09:44] <godstar> /gparted on a flash drive and reformat/
[09:45] <kisuke> mirion can you see your hard didk in the live CD?
[09:45] <chu> hey, my wireless is rather shameful under Linux; honestly I never tried it under Windows, but I have a friend who has a similar-era laptop, and his can reach my wirless network fine from my front room (He gets about 60% connection on Windows Vista), but I cannot get anything. I saw a post on the Ubuntu forums which said something to the effect of "check your hardware drivers", which I have done, but under hardware drivers I only have my nvidia drivers as an opti
[09:45] <kisuke> mirion721 can you see your hard disk in the Live CDS?
[09:45] <miron721> kisuke, I could see it in the installer, let me check if I can browse files
[09:46] <godstar> miron721: you can run your live cd and install gparted from add/remove. Keep in mind that any added apps you run in your live cd will be thrown into ram. Once you have gparted installed, you can reformat the HDD in question.
[09:46] <miron721> godstar, Do I have to reformat the entire disk? I've got a bunch of stuff I don't want to lose, and no external drives
[09:46] <kisuke> godstar grub misconfig maybe?
[09:47] <miron721> Is there a way I can check the data to see if that's the issue, without reformatting?
[09:47] <kisuke> godstar for mirion721 i mean
[09:47] <hanshenrik> hanshenrik@hanshenrik-laptop:~/Desktop/otserv$ sudo su
[09:47] <hanshenrik> [sudo] password for hanshenrik:
[09:47] <hanshenrik> root@hanshenrik-laptop:/home/hanshenrik/Desktop/otserv# ./otserv
[09:47] <hanshenrik> bash: ./otserv: Permission denied
[09:47] <FloodBot1> hanshenrik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:47] <hanshenrik> seriously.. wtf?
[09:47] <godstar> miron721: you can copy your files over using the Live Cd. You will need to try to mount your HDD in question while in the live cd session.
[09:47] <godstar> kisuke: could be.
[09:48] <joaopinto> miron721, you don't need to format do reinstall grub
[09:48] <joaopinto> formating will not resolve your problem
[09:48] <joaopinto> unless the filesystem is corrupted, which is unlikely
[09:48] <kisuke> godstar: tring to see if he can get to menu.lst should tell us something...
[09:48] <jussi01> hanshenrik: sudo -i not sudo su
[09:49] <kisuke> miron721: can you access you HDD?
[09:49] <miron721> Ok, well, I can see the different partitions in nautilus
[09:49] <joaopinto> !root | hanshenrik
[09:49] <jussi01> hanshenrik: and then make sure the otserv is executable
[09:50] <godstar> miron721: can you even access recovery console (hitting ESC) key during grub boot?
[09:50] <jussi01> hanshenrik: lastly, please dont use acronyms that mean swear words. :)
[09:50] <hanshenrik> i am sure the otserv is executable, i can run the same executable from any other directory, and "sudo" got same access denied
[09:50] <miron721> No problem accessing files on the live cd
[09:50] <gerd> lkj
[09:50] <gerd> ?
[09:50] <gerd> ?
[09:50] <FloodBot1> gerd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:50] <miron721> godstar, I'll reboot and try.
[09:50] <gerd> ?
[09:50] <kisuke> miron721: what files are in your /media folder?
[09:50] <gerd> -_-;;
[09:50] <godstar> miron721: copy your files over in the live session and reload Ubuntu. May save you time.
[09:50] <gerd> nothing
[09:51] <hanshenrik> chmod 777 *           now it runs just fine
[09:51] <gerd> hul...;;;;;
[09:51] <godstar> miron721: if you can reach recovery console w the ESC key, drop to root shell with networking and run apt-get update.
[09:51] <ArdyaBigAsshole> !
[09:51] <jony123> how would i mount a nfts partion on my harddisk
[09:52] <browncouch> chu?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> !ntfs3g | jony123
[09:52] <godstar> jony123: go to add/remove and type ntfs in the search
[09:52] <jussi01> ArdyaBigAsshole: please change your nick to something more family friendly, thanks
[09:52] <miron721> godstar, Does the same thing. Flashing _
[09:52] <hanshenrik> i didnt even know "sudo" could get access denied on localhost - any1 know what number chmod must be, for SUDO to get access denied?
[09:52] <kisuke> godstar: ntfs is inculded in ubuntu
[09:52] <miron721> Just a second, switching from laggy wireless to fast wired.
[09:52] <kisuke> godstar:  i use it freaquently
[09:52] <jussi01> hanshenrik: is your user in the admin group?
[09:52] <jony123> cheers
[09:52] <hanshenrik> jussi01: yup
[09:53] <kisuke> !ntfs | jony123
[09:53] <hanshenrik> jussi01: think so at least
[09:53] <jussi01> hanshenrik: does sudo work with other items?
[09:53] <hanshenrik> jussi01: yup
[09:53] <godstar> kisuke: you're correct, it should automount ntfs.
[09:53] <hanshenrik> jussi01: like apt-get
[09:53] <jussi01> hanshenrik: curious. and you are certain the file is executable?
[09:54] <hanshenrik> jussi01: yup, i could run the same exe from any other directory, and it runned fine after i did chmod 777 *
[09:55] <ArdyaTrouDuCul> jussi01: Okey ?...
[09:55] <kisuke> godstar: unless is removable drive
[09:55] <jussi01> ArdyaTrouDuCul: changing the language isnt really helpful
[09:55] <miron> Ok, back
[09:55] <miron721> Ok, back again. Stupid connection
[09:55] <kisuke> !sudo | jussi01
[09:55] <miron721> Er, still here
[09:56] <Si235> okay fixed freevo from starting up by removing any of the /etc/init.d freevo startup files :)
[09:56] <Si235> woot.
[09:56] <ArdyaTrouDuCul> jussi01: !BIG though I'd like to enlarge its...
[09:56] <kisuke> miron721: what is the content of your /media folder?
[09:57] <ArdyaGrosEncule> !
[09:57] <miron721> kisuke, Just a minute, booting back into the live cd
[09:58] <jussi01> ArdyaGrosEncule: I said family friendly please. If you cant manage that, Ill set a forward to #ubuntu-ops until you can. :)
[09:58] <kisuke> miron721: kk
[09:58] <hanshenrik> !root
[09:58] <hanshenrik> "Instead, realise the truth... there is no spoon"..
[09:58] <hanshenrik> matrix-quote? :p
[09:59] <error404notfound> in karmic, pidgin is replaced with empathy? why? i think pidgin is better.
[09:59] <linux-ops>  ?
[09:59] <kisuke> !ot | hanshenrik
[09:59] <hanshenrik> error404notfound: why dont ask in #ubuntu+1 instead? :P
[09:59] <iceroot> what is the refresh-key for lynx?
[10:00] <kisuke> iceroot:  try F5
[10:00] <hanshenrik> kisuke: so you really think that question fits better here than in #ubuntu+1?
[10:00] <iceroot> kisuke: nope
[10:01] <miron721> kisuke, Empty on booting the live cd. Though I have 6 seperate partitions I can mount. I forgot windows always adds a 200 megabyte partition for pretty much no reason
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> error404notfound: you can install pidgin freely
[10:02] <miron721> Wait, that 200 meg partition has some boot stuff in it. Could that be the issue?
[10:02] <DuckGod> when i turn on my second computer after installing jaunty it says reboot and select proper boot device....?
[10:02] <kisuke> miron721: can you mount your /boot or ubuntu partitions?
[10:02] <Gnea> DuckGod: it does?
[10:03] <miron721> kisuke, Yup, in it now
[10:03] <DuckGod> yeah whats up with that?
[10:03] <Gnea> where does it say that?
[10:03] <stefg> DuckGod: that means either there is no bootloader installed on the right disk, or the bios can't see it
[10:03] <DuckGod> first thing it says when i turn it on
[10:03] <kisuke> go to /boot/grub/ please post menu.lst to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:03] <Gnea> so, after POST?
[10:03] <DuckGod> yes
[10:04] <Gnea> DuckGod: sounds like the incorrect MBR was selected at install time - should be /dev/sda (MBR of the firt disk or something like that) not a partition
[10:04] <DuckGod> its just wierd cause i did it with the same live cd i installed jaunty on this pc
[10:04] <KoolD> Hey. I am trying to resize an ext4 partition. But the live usb that i have does not seem to support ext4. Gparted in this live distro shows the ext4 partition as ext3. is it okay to resize it anyway??
[10:04] <stefg> DuckGod: so first double check your bios settings for correct boot order and device settings
[10:05] <DuckGod> ive changed the boot order many times trying to get it to work
[10:05] <stefg> KoolD: i don't think so. at least have a backup first
[10:06] <DuckGod> should i try turning on plug an play os?
[10:06] <kisuke> miron721: ?
[10:06] <miron721> Whoa, this recognizes my obscure wireless card. Never noticed that before.
[10:06] <KoolD> stefg: guess i'll backup then. Thanks
[10:07] <miron721> Augh, stupid cat tore out the network cable. Ok, it's paste.ubuntu.com/282840/
[10:07] <firecrotch> KoolD: the livecd that you're using... what distro/version is it?
[10:07] <stefg> DuckGod: that doesn't matter. the best thing you could do is boot up the Desktop live cd on the box in question and join this channel from there
[10:08] <honey^moon> oooooooooooooooo
[10:08] <DuckGod> ok
[10:08] <honey^moon> ooooooo
[10:08] <Lloir> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:08] <kisuke> miron721: kk one min installing gparted
[10:08] <Lloir> nvm thought i was on a diff chan on a diff server
[10:08] <honey^moon> iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:08] <KoolD> firecrotch: its backtrack 4. Its based on ubuntu.
[10:08] <honey^moon> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[10:08] <honey^moon> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:08] <FloodBot1> honey^moon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:08] <honey^moon> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:08] <dazhi> wok
[10:09] <kyja> wyvern is alive again !!
[10:09] <jakerue> I just erased an NTFS, formatted at ext3, added it to my root partition.  Now when I boot into my home the new size is not recognized.  What am I missing?
[10:09] <DuckGod> when i use the live cd it acts like everything is normal
[10:09] <dazhi> it
[10:10] <firecrotch> KoolD: I would recommend not even trying to do the resize with older versions of resizing tools, even though ext4 is supposed to be 100% backwards compatible - there are reports of problems
[10:10] <Gnea> DuckGod: again, you need to select the correct disk to install grub to
[10:10] <stefg> jakerue: what it exactly did you do to 'add it to your root partition' ?
[10:10] <jakerue> stefg I used gparted resize
[10:11] <DuckGod> so just choosing the use whole drive dosent work?>
[10:12] <jakerue> stefg: you can see the results of my fdisk -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/282842/
[10:14] <stefg> jakerue: so far, so good. and what does df -h tell?
[10:14] <Gnea> DuckGod: that's a different section
[10:14] <DuckGod> Gnea if i installed it while my box had an intel network card do you think that could possible be the problem?
[10:14] <Gnea> DuckGod: the part I'm talking about is at the very end of the installation phase
[10:14] <KoolD> firecrotch: so would it be alright if i try to resize with ubuntu?
[10:15] <miron-desktop> Miron721 here, my laptop seems to be dropping it's connection a lot so I'm on on the live cd as well
[10:15] <godstar> KoolD: I would think you would be okay to resize.
[10:15] <kisuke> godstar paste.ubuntu.com/282840/ miron721's menu.lst
[10:15] <DuckGod> at the end of my installer it just tells me to reboot an thats it it dosent give me any other options
[10:15] <Gnea> DuckGod: okay, I'll try to explain it in more layman's terms - if you have a keg of beer, and a pitcher, and a glass, and if you tell someone to fill the pitcher from the keg in order to fill their glasses, and if the person empties the keg into his mouth into the pitcher, then nobody gets beer.
[10:15] <godstar> kisuke: k
[10:15] <KoolD> thanks then i'm off to resize
[10:15] <jakerue> stefg: I am using the liveCD, should I mount my sda6 first and and df -h from there?
[10:16] <Gnea> DuckGod: it's the same idea here - grub isn't getting installed to the MBR of the hard drive, so it won't boot
[10:16] <ursus> Hello! I have a DVD image (iso), and I would like to burn it. The problem is, that the iso file is a little bit larger than the capacity of my disk. How could I solve it?
[10:16] <Gnea> DuckGod: rather, into his mouth INSTEAD of into the pitcher
[10:16] <puting> hello
[10:16] <Gnea> DuckGod: or shall I use another example?
[10:16] <browncouch> will someone verify my ftp???  24.116.22.203   anonymous
[10:17] <puting> do you know kobuntu server?
[10:17] <browncouch> tell me what you think of the picture lol
[10:17] <DuckGod> that works...
[10:17] <Gnea> !ot | browncouch
[10:17] <KasdK> Anyone here a lawyer?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> browncouch: looks like im connected
[10:17] <KasdK> or pretty keen on law issues?
[10:17] <jakerue> browncouch: I logged in
[10:17] <browncouch> sweet!
[10:17] <Sitowlan> browncouch, 21/tcp filtered ftp
[10:17] <jussi01> !ot | KasdK
[10:18] <mark_> your ftp server is working fine
[10:18] <browncouch> just a shitty picture right?
[10:18] <browncouch> sweet
[10:18] <puting> begening today
[10:18] <KasdK> do you know if there's a channel for law talk?
[10:18] <Gnea> DuckGod: so what you need to do is, reinstall the system and get to the end, and when it asks where you want it to install grub to, make sure you select the MBR of the same hard drive you installed the system to (so if your partitions are /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc, then /dev/sda is where you want grub to go)
[10:18] <puting> help me
[10:18] <kisuke> godsatr im at a loss you?
[10:18] <stefg> jakerue: yes, mount sda1 and sda5... you can apt-get install pastebinit for convenience. interesting would be 'df -h | pastebinit' the fstab of the installed system and 'sudo blkid | pastebinit'
[10:18] <Bendt> how do i turn off all power-saving?
[10:18] <kisuke> !ask | puting
[10:18] <Gnea> KasdK: #law perhaps? or ask in #freenode
[10:19] <puting> i can't english
[10:19] <indus> ActionParsnip1: hello
[10:19] <jussi01> !channels > KasdK
[10:19] <indus> puting: ask question, we will understand
[10:19] <puting> !ask |
[10:19] <godstar> kisuke: It looks like grub is booting on (hd0,0)  with /dev/hda5 as the mount point. This could be his problem here. He did say he say 6 partitions on two HDD.
[10:20] <jakerue> stefg: couldn't find pastebinit through apt-get
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> hi indus
[10:20] <puting> i think so  that Xchat can't  control
[10:20] <Bendt> !How do i turn off all power-saving in ubuntu 9.04?
[10:20] <kisuke> godstar:  think he said 6 on 1
[10:20] <stefg> jakerue: you'll need to apt-get update first
[10:20] <kisuke> miron7
[10:20] <miron721> kisuke, nope, 6 on 2.
[10:20] <indus> puting: cant control what
[10:21] <godstar> My recommendation is: boot to live cd, copy files from bad HDD to good HDD and do a clean install on bad HDD.
[10:21] <kisuke> god you were right
[10:21] <puting> today install Xchat
[10:21] <puting> i don'y know
[10:21] <ursus> Hello! I have a DVD image (iso), and I would like to burn it. The problem is, that the iso file is a little bit larger than the capacity of my disk. How could I solve it? I tried DVD95, but it crashes when builds up the new iso file. I tried vamp also, but I couldn't give an iso file as a source file for compress the dvd.
[10:21] <puting> don't
[10:21] <puting> interface
[10:22] <puting> i want
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> ursus: maye its a dual layer image, some images are bigger than the disks. Have you tried just burning it
[10:22] <florie> c.infoweapons.com 6666
[10:22] <puting> korea unbunto
[10:22] <godstar> ursus: I like infrarecord. Look it up on sourceforge.
[10:22] <indus> puting: aah korea
[10:22] <puting> aah korea?
[10:22] <miron721> btw, if I mount all of the partitions, my /media is 6 folders, disk, disk-1, disk-2 etc to disk-5
[10:22] <indus> who knows korean channel
[10:22] <puting> where?
[10:22] <indus> !korea
[10:22] <stefg> !kr
[10:22] <puting> !korea
[10:22] <puting> !kr
[10:22] <Bendt> what program controls turning of screen?
[10:23] <ursus> ActionParsnip1, it is not dual layer, it is just about 100 mb larger than a normal dvd
[10:23] <jakerue> stefg: still not found after that.  I will mount anyway and just paste manually.  Note that my sda5is my working partition that I need to get working....sda1 is an old partition
[10:23] <puting> dz
[10:23] <ursus> godstar, I'll check it, thank you
[10:23] <puting> ok
[10:23] <puting> thanks
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> ursus: it'll be fine
[10:23] <godstar> ursus: anytime.
[10:23] <stefg> jakerue: ok
[10:23] <puting> i going unbuntu-ko
[10:23] <puting> bye
[10:23] <puting> see you
[10:23] <indus> puting: good luck bye
[10:23] <kisuke> puting:  /join #ubuntu-ko
[10:23] <puting> thank you
[10:24] <mickster04> good mornin:D
[10:24] <kisuke> miron721: do you get a grub prompt? asks you what to load?
[10:25] <godstar> kisuke: I think he said that the cursor just blinks.
[10:25] <ursus> godstar, are you sure, that it is calles infrarecord? There isn't such a project on sourceforge...
[10:25] <miron721> kisuke, Yup, right after that the underscore blinks. After I make my selection, that is
[10:25] <godstar> kisuke: no grub prompt, no recovery console.
[10:25] <godstar> ursus: one sec
[10:25] <miron721> I get a grub prompt, it just doesn't actually do anything
[10:25] <miron721> er
[10:25] <kisuke> i know had a simialr problem maybe grub not in mbr
[10:26] <godstar> ursus: http://infrarecorder.org/
[10:26] <miron721> I get a grub prompt, and I can chose an option. It goes to boot the option and it just blinks the underscroe
[10:26] <godstar> ursus: forgot the 'er'.
[10:26] <ursus> godstar, ok, thanks
[10:26] <kisuke> nvm
[10:26] <godstar> ursus: you are welcome.
[10:26] <theadmin> When will latest GNOME be available?
[10:27] <stefg> jakerue: so sda5 is visible and mountable from the Places menu on the Live CD?
[10:28] <ursus> godstar, it is an application for windows, isn't it..?
[10:28] <jakerue> stefg: yep...I am browsing it nw
[10:28] <jakerue> nw = now
[10:28] <jakerue> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/282850/
[10:29] <stefg> jakerue: i need /media/[disk]/etc/fstab, not ther fstab of the Live environment
[10:30] <jakerue> ok here is me browsing to the ftab on sda5 -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/282853/
[10:30] <godstar> ursus: yes, sorry, what platform are you using?
[10:30] <prince_jammys> url open 9
[10:30] <ursus> xubuntu 9.04
[10:30] <jakerue> stefg: see my above post.
[10:31] <godstar> ursus: try brasero. I've never had problems with it.
[10:31] <kisuke> what was the command to check an fs?
[10:31] <firecrotch> kisuke: fsck?
[10:32] <stefg> jakerue: ah there you have it. The fstab still thinks your sda5 is an ntfs partition.... sda1, too. you need to setup a new fstab to reflecz the changes you did with gprted
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> !fsck | kisuke
[10:32] <kisuke> thanks firecrotch
[10:32] <kisuke> miron721:  try fsck
[10:33] <kisuke> !fsck > miron721
[10:33] <godstar> kisuke: I think his install went bad, maybe grub.
[10:33] <ursus> godstar, me too. But the problem isn't with my burner program! I have an iso file, and I would like to burn it to a disk, but this iso file is too big. It should be compressed or some language removed from the dvd, and it would be fine. I'm searching for a program, which can solve this.
[10:33] <AzizLight> hi everybody
[10:33] <kisuke> godstar: maybe might be bad dismount
[10:33] <nikhil> i am unable to share files between ubuntu 8.10 and vista over wireless.  Also unable to share internet connection. also cannot ping each other. please help
[10:34] <godstar> ursus: you can mount the ISO, delete the files you do not want and repackage the ISO.
[10:34] <kisuke> godstar:  try the easier fix first  if that don't work thry the next worse thing
[10:34] <stefg> jakerue: so you have 2 contradicting entries fo what is now sda5. one bey /dev/ and one by UUID.
[10:34] <godstar> ursus: then burn smaller ISO to dvd.
[10:34] <jakerue> stefg: how's this fix ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:35] <nikhil> i tried to get solution in forums but it was confusing
[10:35] <jakerue> stefg: how's this fix ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/282858/
[10:35] <stefg> jakerue: that link is empty
[10:35] <author_test2> Have been having "Details -  1: Server ping error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0" errors, anyone know how to get rid of them?
[10:35] <ursus> godstar, but do you think, is it enough simply delete some files? Then the menu should be edited as well, and maybe there are some files, which I can't edit...
[10:35] <stefg> jakerue: nah ... that's not working.
[10:35] <nikhil> i think this is a common problem
[10:36] <nikhil> can anyone help me?
[10:36] <jakerue> stefg: the link ..or my fix?
[10:36] <whois> !anyone | nikhil
[10:37] <nikhil>  i am unable to share files between ubuntu 8.10 and vista over wireless.  Also unable to share internet connection. also cannot ping each other. please help
[10:37] <techie> the modem in my PowerBook G4 (400mhz titanium) isnt showing up in 9.04
[10:37] <stefg> jakerue: your 'non-fix'. that fstab is so hopelessly confused that i'll suggest to rename it to something like fstab.bad and start over with writing a new one
[10:37] <jakerue> stefg: How about this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/282859/
[10:37] <miron721> kisuke, "The superblock could not be read" etc. I think that might be because the filesystem is actually ext3
[10:37] <jakerue> stefg: OK
[10:38] <henrik-> All right, I have a big problem here. My server goes down every now and then, every couple of minutes, and it's back up after a few minutes. The connection (IRC) still works, if I SSH into it, it works, but sometimes it's impossible to connect.
[10:38] <henrik-> Here's my dmesg http://pastie.org/637840
[10:38] <kisuke> miron721:  did you set it as EXT3?
[10:38] <henrik-> Any suggestions on what might be wrong?
[10:38] <stefg> jakerue: so the first thing you need is the output of 'sudo blkid'
[10:38] <miron721> Tried fsck -t ext3 /media/disk-1, gave the same error. I'm trying other things, like order of the commands/capitalization
[10:39] <jakerue> stefg: Here we are http://paste.ubuntu.com/282861/
[10:39] <miron721> Ok, worked with caps. Gave me error 2.
[10:39] <frogzoo> *swear* sound's stopped working for my flash
[10:39] <nikhil>  i am unable to share files between ubuntu 8.10 and vista over wireless.  Also unable to share internet connection. also cannot ping each other. please help
[10:39] <nikhil> i tried to get solution in forums but it was confusing
[10:39] <miron721> System should be rebooted? Does that just mean unmount it, or what?
[10:39] <stefg> jakerue: ok... what's on sda1 ? and BTW how much ram do have in that machine?
[10:40] <kisuke> miron721 if that came from you ubuntu partition than it is bad and you will need to reinstall
[10:40] <author_test2> nikhil, your question is too broad and unspecific. Really hard to help you there.
[10:40] <kisuke> miron721: see man fsck
[10:40] <kisuke> frogzoo restart firefox
[10:41] <frogzoo> kisuke: thx, will do
[10:41] <jakerue> stefg: 1Gig...sda1 is nothing.  I had issues before trying to copy and move partitions....it is a mess I know.  I pretty much just want my home partition and a data store for files.  I used to have a dual boot but I don't need it any more b/c using VM when necessary
[10:41] <miron721> kisuke, that's where I got "System should be rebooted", but not sure what that means. So is the disk ok, and a simple reinstall will fix this?
[10:42] <kisuke> miron721:  try rebooting it probaly fixed an error or two
[10:42] <miron721> kisuke, Would it really do anything? I thought fsck just checked, didn't actually change anything
[10:42] <miron721> Keeping in mind this is a live cd
[10:42] <tehbaut> anyone know why I'm unable to type anything into Karmic's 'Who Are You?' setup screen in Virtual PC?
[10:42] <stefg> jakerue: would be a good opportunity to clean up the mess... so sda1 can basically be emptied? how large is it? 50 Gigs?
[10:43] <jakerue> stefg: yup, sda1 can die....52.4 Gigs
[10:44] <nikhil> i have ubuntu 8.10 installed on my desktop which has the internet connection. i have vista installed on my laptop. both machines are assigned automatic ip addresses. i have samba installed in ubuntu. i have shared folders in both vista and ubuntu but unable to see both is other computer. i have a wireless router.
[10:44] <author_test2> Firefox, update-manager and others spit out "Details -  1: Server ping error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0" errors, anyone having these as well ?
[10:44] <kisuke> !fsck
[10:45] <kisuke> miron721: i think it is like MS's scandisk automaticly fixes errors it finds
[10:45] <stefg> jakerue: Are you ready for some serious cleanup (will take some time)?
[10:45] <author_test2> nikhil, can you ping the wirelss router from each computer? Are both in the same subnet?
[10:45] <nikhil> i cannot share folders between them.  Earlier, i had xp installed on laptop and there was no problem at all.
[10:45] <jakerue> stefg: lets do it
[10:46] <henrik-> Trying to upgrade my kernel - what do I do after I download the new one? Reboot? Or do I have to run a bunch of commands?
[10:46] <godstar> nikhil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deb2jRm3c7g
[10:46] <ml> hi, i've got problem with PokerStars running under wine
[10:46] <kisuke> frogzoo any luck
[10:46] <henrik-> oh, looks like apt-get did it for me.
[10:46] <ml> can you help me? ;>
[10:46] <nikhil> thanks will check it out
[10:46] <kisuke> !wine | ml
[10:46] <stefg> jakerue: so lets first reformat sda1 (and tell me what ubuntu version you have and how much ram the box has)
[10:47] <frogzoo> kisuke: lolz, now youtube gives me " an error occurred, try again later" *sigh*
[10:47] <indus> ml: did u check the wine appdb
[10:47] <ml> yes, it's gold
[10:47] <ml> i read really many sites and treads
[10:47] <indus> ml: cool, cant trust thoseratings always
[10:47] <godstar> nikhil: anytime.
[10:47] <indus> ml: what exact issue you have
[10:47] <kisuke> frogzoo pick a diffrent video i get that once in a while
[10:47] <ml> i want to deposit some money
[10:47] <indus> ml: the wine channel is good for this kind of issue
[10:47] <frogzoo> kisuke: actually it's not just ff, just realised pidgin isn't beeping on triggers either
[10:48] <ml> but PokerStars doesn't find any browser
[10:48] <indus> ml: game money i suppose
[10:48] <ml> i click links, but nothihg happens
[10:48] <godstar> frogzoo: try reinstalling all firefox entries and flash non-free from synaptic.
[10:48] <frogzoo> kisuke: this is something I've seen happen to other people - you mute sound, and then the sound interface removes mute, but sound doesn't come back...
[10:48] <jakerue> stefg: 1Gig ram and using 9.04
[10:48] <ml> yes, game money
[10:49] <kisuke> frogzoo:  flash grabs sound so i don't get beeped at when ppl talk in irc
[10:49] <frogzoo> godstar: I've lost all sound, not just in ff
[10:49] <jakerue> stefg: want me to start sd1 format? using gparted
[10:49] <ml> i've installed ie6, but it didn't help
[10:49] <kisuke> frogzoo:  never had that problem then again speaker sits by my knee so...
[10:49] <stefg> jakerue: no gparted :-) .... we're not going to be sissies :-)
[10:49] <godstar> frogzoo: try purging pulse and reinstalling.
[10:49] <frogzoo> kisuke: sadly, neither have I
[10:50] <stefg> jakerue: ext4 for performance, or ext3 for safety ?
[10:50] <kisuke> godstar  why is pulse audio even in the repos if it breaks evevry thing?
[10:50] <godstar> frogzoo: you can always reinstall gnome desktop.
[10:50] <godstar> kisuke: good question.
[10:51] <kisuke> miron721 hows it going?
[10:51] <kisuke> godstar think i should pull out a ticket on launch pad?
[10:51] <frogzoo> godstar: what's pulse?
[10:51] <jakerue> stefg: I will go with ext3 just to save time from doing it over.  OK done as ext3
[10:51] <indus> frogzoo: logging out and back in again helps sometimes
[10:51] <kisuke> frogzoo:  pulse audio
[10:51] <nikhil> how to indicate a person in chat box?
[10:52] <frogzoo> kisuke: thx
[10:52] <miron721> kisuke, Rebooted, redid fsck and it gave the same error. Now I'm going to try reinstalling again, see if that works
[10:52] <frogzoo> indus: I might if I get desperate
[10:52] <indus> nikhil: use his name press tab to autocomplete
[10:52] <prospire> whats wrong in this -> rename lol.bz2 hello.bz2
[10:52] <prospire> ?
[10:52] <godstar> kisuke: I am not convinced its a bug. Sounds like user error.
[10:52] <frogzoo> prospire: mv
[10:52] <author_test2> mv lol.bz2 hello.bz2
[10:52] <frogzoo> dos is not unix
[10:52] <prospire> frogzoo: actually I am facing a problem
[10:52] <indus> prospire: yeah mv is command to rename
[10:53] <prospire> when I do mv lol.bz2 hello.bz2
[10:53] <kisuke> godstar: implementation error more like
[10:53] <prospire> then the file inside lol.bz2 also becomes hello.bz2
[10:53] <jakerue> stefg: sshot of gparted http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Ts1ffDHA
[10:53] <godstar> frogzoo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_audio
[10:53] <kisuke> frogzoo:  no it is not
[10:53] <indus> prospire: yeah why dont you jsut try with f2
[10:53] <prospire> f2?
[10:53] <stefg> jakerue: now i need to habe an impression on what is on sda5. run 'df -h' and 'ls media/[yourdisk]' ... anyway, the screenie helps, too
[10:53] <indus> prospire: f2 renames stuff
[10:53] <nikhil> sorry did not get it
[10:54] <indus> nikhil: hi
[10:54] <tehbaut> can anyone help me figure out why I cannot type in the setup textboxes when installing 9.10a6?
[10:54] <prospire> is it some command?
[10:54] <indus> nikhil: hi
[10:54] <indus> see?
[10:54] <FloodBot1> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:54] <kisuke> miron721:  sorry godstar thought it was a borked install i;m starting to agree with him sorry
[10:54] <prospire> indus: is f2 some command?
[10:54] <indus> prospire: basically runs the mv command
[10:54] <tehbaut> I was able to use the keyboard just fine in previous screens
[10:54] <prospire> indus: what is the exact syntax can you tell me?
[10:54] <indus> prospire: its mv file1 file2
[10:55] <jakerue> stefg: df -h just gives me what is on my liveCD ...the ls gives - ls: cannot access media/sda5: No such file or directory
[10:55] <prospire> indus: oh
[10:55] <miron721> kisuke, Going through the installer again, seeing if that'll work
[10:55] <prospire> but I said you what problem I was facing
[10:55] <Aleksandar> how to update wine
[10:55] <indus> prospire: now not sure how that works on zipped or tarred files
[10:55] <prospire> when I do "mv lol.bz2 hello.bz2"
[10:55] <godstar> miron721: did you back up your data?
[10:55] <kisuke> prospire F2 key try above the numbers on your keyboard
[10:55] <prospire> then the file inside lol.bz2 is also renamed to hello
[10:55] <kisuke> miron721:  good luck
[10:55] <indus> prospire: hmm i suggest rename with f2 key
[10:55] <miron721> godstar, Can't. Too much info. Trying again on the same partition
[10:55] <stefg> jakerue: ususally the mountpoint of sda5 is something like /media/disk . but nevermind, i aready see wht's going on
[10:55] <prince_jammys> prospire: what is it that you want to happen?
[10:56] <prospire> but I would be executing the command with php's system function
[10:56] <indus> prospire: whats inside that lol.bz2?
[10:56] <prospire> prince_jammys: if the file name is lol in lol.bz2 I want that it remains lol and doesn't changes to hello on renaming lol.bz2 to hello.bz2
[10:56] <nikhil> use his name here means?
[10:56] <prospire> a backup file
[10:56] <prince_jammys> prospire: ah, i understand.
[10:57] <godstar> miron721: if you have a separate HDD (such as a 3rd one) you may want to consider installing Ubuntu on it, so you can back up your HDDs accordingly then format away and do another install on the drive of choice.
[10:57] <miron721> er, too much space
[10:57] <prospire> so what do I do?
[10:57] <kisuke> miron721:  what?
[10:57] <Chousuke> prospire: bzip is just a compressor. you want to use tar to archive the file too
[10:57] <puting_> hi
[10:58] <Guest15599> h
[10:58] <miron721> kisuke, reinstalling ubuntu to the same partition in case it was just a messed up installation
[10:58] <Chousuke> prospire: there is not file "inside" bz2. it *is* the file, just compressed.
[10:58] <godstar> miron721: let us know how it turns out.
[10:58] <puting_> do you know web server install?
[10:58] <kisuke> you said to much space?
[10:58] <prince_jammys> prospire: i don't know a way around that without decompressing the file.
[10:58] <stefg> jakerue: now you need to move over everything that is on sda5 *except the /home -dir* to sda1. so first make a mountpoint 'sudo mkdir /media/sda1' and mount the newly formatted drive there with sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[10:58] <prospire> Chousuke: oh
[10:58] <Chousuke> no*
[10:58] <indus> prospire: i just tried it
[10:59] <indus> prospire: doesnt rename file inside
[10:59] <miron721> kisuke, Got 420 gigs of data on one disk, and the other disk is 350 gb. Too much data, no space rather
[10:59] <Chousuke> prospire: so just tar it up first and then compress the tar file.
[10:59] <prospire> indus: yes it does
[10:59] <prospire> its happening here
[10:59] <stefg> jakerue: don't start to copy yet
[10:59] <miron721> Sorry about that, 3 am, not thinking properly
[10:59] <kisuke> miron721:  ow
[10:59] <shai> Does anyone know how I can enforce the larger DPI ( I set it to 120 instead of 96 ) on X apps I started over SSH X11 Forwarding ? The DPI set on my XDM works great, but those menus are just way to small on the apps I start via SSH ...
[10:59] <Chousuke> prospire: tar keeps information about the original filename and such info
[10:59] <puting_> ok
[10:59] <indus> prospire: i did mv file1.tar.bz1 file2.tar.bz2
[10:59] <jakerue> stefg: ok I created the dir and mounted
[10:59] <indus> prospire: the new one still has file1 inside
[10:59] <kisuke> miron721:  good luck i hope you get it working
[10:59] <prospire> indus: its tar.bz2
[11:00] <prospire> I was talking about just .bz2
[11:00] <prospire> by the way, whats tar.bz2?
[11:00] <indus> prospire: doesnt matter
[11:00] <stefg> jakerue: now get a privileged nautilus with gksudo nautilus
[11:00] <indus> prospire: ok ill try that too wait
[11:00] <Chousuke> prospire: .tar.bz2 is a tar file compressed with bz2
[11:00] <prospire> Chousuke: so you mean to say bzip2 is no archiver like zip or tar. right?
[11:00] <Chousuke> prospire: yes.
[11:00] <Chousuke> it's just a compressor
[11:00] <prospire> it is just a compressor like gzip, am I right?
[11:00] <Chousuke> that's why it's usually combined with tar
[11:01] <jakerue> stefg: ok I got it
[11:01] <indus> prospire: u r correct
[11:01] <prospire> aah, hmm
[11:01] <undurundur> my order in shipit doesn't arrived...
[11:01] <gigasoft>  i have problem killing  an app, any help?
[11:01] <miron721> kisuke, Thanks. I really hope I get it working. A netbook is fine for checking email, but it's not anything to do intensive stuff on.
[11:01] <prospire> I think I have reached a nice conclusion
[11:01] <prospire> lol, thanks all
[11:01] <Guest52684> i don't have name
[11:01] <indus> prospire: what conclusion
[11:01] <prospire> indus: lol, nothing, thanks by the way
[11:01] <Chousuke> prospire: the tar utility accepts the j switch to compress with bzip2
[11:02] <stefg> jakerue: in this root-nautilus navigate to your sda5 dir and select all dirs and files *except /home* and 'cut'
[11:02] <prospire> Chousuke: hmm, thanks
[11:02] <indus> prospire:iam wondering why it renames the file inside
[11:02] <ubuntistas> i just installed jaunty and my fonts are big not normal any clue?
[11:02] <prospire> indus: even I, but I think that's a compressor thing
[11:02] <prospire> probably thts why
[11:02] <stefg> jakerue: the navigate to /media/sda1 and 'paste' ..... will take some time
[11:02] <firecrotch> indus: bzip2 is not like zip
[11:02] <Chousuke> prospire: so tar cvjf archive.tar.bz2 files here
[11:03] <indus> firecrotch: iam talking about mv command renaming file inside the bz2
[11:03] <firecrotch> indus: zip is a compressed archive format, akin to .tar.bz2
[11:03] <kisuke> miron721: it probably has a better processor than my desktop
[11:03] <Chousuke> indus: it doesn't rename the file inside bz2
[11:03] <mrtux_> gigasoft: From terminal, type: ps -A and look up the process you want to kill.
[11:03] <jakerue> stefg: I can't tell if I am in sda5 but I am in media ... http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Ts1fmcLi
[11:03] <kisuke> miron721:  800MHz XD
[11:03] <Chousuke> indus: there is no file "inside" a bz2
[11:03] <firecrotch> indus: there is no "inside" because .bz2 is not an archive
[11:03] <indus> Chousuke: it does, i just tried it
[11:03] <indus> Chousuke: aah hmm
[11:03] <Chousuke> indus: it's just data.
[11:03] <indus> Chousuke: thought so
[11:03] <Chousuke> and the original filename is not recorded anymore.
[11:03] <prospire> indus: exactly, you got Chousuke?
[11:03] <mrtux_> gigasoft: Then kill proces id, typE: kill 10203 (for example)
[11:04] <prospire> Chousuke: then which command would allow me to decompress a bzip2 file?
[11:04] <ubuntistas> i just installed jaunty and my fonts are big not normal any clue?
[11:04] <indus> ya its not an archive, just a name it seems ?
[11:04] <stefg> jakerue: that'S right... everything but /home and lost+found needs to be moved to sda1
[11:04] <indus> so renaming it effectively renames the file also?
[11:04] <joaopinto> propter_hoc, bzip2 -d file
[11:04] <joaopinto> ops, prospire
[11:04] <Chousuke> indus: yes, because bunzip2 guesses the filename from the compressed filename
[11:04] <jakerue> stefg: OK in progress
[11:04] <prospire> joaopinto: ok, I'll try that
[11:04] <prospire> thanks
[11:04] <prince_jammys> indus: no it doesn't "rename the file inside". When bzip2 decompresses it, it just names the result to whatever the filename was minus the .bz2 extension
[11:05] <firecrotch> indus: even according to the man page, filename.bz2 will become filename when you do bzip2 -d
[11:05] <Chousuke> prospire: if it's a tar.bz2, tar xvjf foo.tar.bz2
[11:05] <indus> stupid compression standards
[11:05] <indus> i prefer .zip
[11:05] <Chousuke> prospire: or you can do bunzip2 or bzip -d foo.tar.bz2 and then extract the resulting tar :)
[11:05] <indus> sounds good works good, is universal too
[11:05] <firecrotch> indus: .zip is akin to .tar.bz2 - its a compressed archive
[11:05] <prospire> :)
[11:05] <Chousuke> prospire: many ways to skin a cat
[11:06] <joaopinto> indus, please have some respect, just because you are not familiar with standards don't insult them
[11:06] <prospire> lol
[11:06] <prospire> indus: exactly
[11:06] <prospire> please have some respect
[11:06] <indus> ? for whom
[11:06] <joaopinto> indus, for the thouands of people which worked on those formats, standards, and related tools
[11:06] <prospire> indus: you from india?
[11:06] <joaopinto> thousands
[11:06] <Chousuke> bzip compresses better than just zip though
[11:07] <joaopinto> including us here, which rely on them
[11:07] <William> fine
[11:07] <prince_jammys> hehe
[11:07] <indus> off topic
[11:07] <prospire> indus: you from india?
[11:07] <indus> yea
[11:07] <prospire> which city
[11:07] <prospire> ?
[11:07] <joaopinto> prospire, please move such questions to off topic
[11:07] <ubuntistas> i just installed jaunty and my fonts are big not normal any clue? browsers fonts too
[11:07] <joaopinto> !ot | prospire
[11:08] <prospire> joaopinto: ok
[11:08] <indus> joaopinto: which ' standard ' were you talking about btw
[11:09] <indus> joaopinto: and please dont try to judge me with one comment
[11:09] <jakerue> stefg: Error while copying "agpgart".
[11:09] <cheslyn> hi everyone
[11:09] <joaopinto> indus, let's drop the offtopi :)
[11:09] <joaopinto> topic
[11:09] <stefg> jakerue: details ?
[11:09] <indus> ok
[11:10] <sassyn> Hi
[11:10] <sassyn> what is ubuntu server cloud version?
[11:10] <Guest51444> join #ubuntu
[11:10] <Prohibited> :p
[11:10] <cheslyn> what it jaunty?
[11:10] <jakerue> stefg: Details = Can't copy special file Skip?
[11:10] <stefg> jakerue: yes
[11:11] <jakerue> stefg: skip all?
[11:11] <miron721> Damnit, same thing. I'm giving up for tonight, work on it later. Gotta get to bed, have work tomorrow
[11:11] <jakerue> stefg: now Error while copying "apm_bios".
[11:11] <ubuntistas> i just installed jaunty and my fonts are big not normal any clue? browsers fonts too
[11:11] <Prohibited> hm.
[11:11] <stefg> jakerue: yes. these are probably special device files which get recreated anyway
[11:11] <firecrotch> sassyn: it's for creating your own computing cloud like AmazonEC2
[11:11] <Prohibited> Ubuntistas: System, Preferences, Display
[11:11] <indus> ubuntistas: did you try reducing font size from appearance window?
[11:11] <nazgjunk> ubuntistas: probably want to adjust your dpi - the "appearances" config screen should help you out
[11:12] <sassyn> firecrotch - With Xen?
[11:12] <sassyn> or KVM?
[11:12] <nazgjunk> but my memory may be rusty, it's been a few weeks since I've used gnome >.>
[11:12] <Boohbah> sassyn: i believe amazon is all xen
[11:12] <Boohbah> somebody correct me if i'm wrong
[11:12] <ubuntistas> how can i do that ichecked my appearance but nothing
[11:13] <indus> ubuntistas: you can go to customize and adjust font sizes etc
[11:13] <sassyn> Boohbah, firecrotch 10x
[11:13] <indus> ubuntistas: look patiently
[11:13] <indus> :)
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: have you installed video drivers, you will probably find you are are 800x600 and finding everything massive
[11:13] <sassyn> Boohbah: one more thing
[11:13] <indus> ActionParsnip1: good point
[11:13] <sassyn> did u ever usex xplash?
[11:13] <Boohbah> sassyn: what is that supposed to mean? are you talking about my gf? :)
[11:13] <sassyn> xsplash
[11:13] <indus> sassyn: are you using karmic?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[11:14] <sassyn> indus yes
[11:14] <indus> Boohbah: lol
[11:14] <indus> sassyn: karmic support is #karmic+1
[11:14] <sassyn> 10x
[11:14] <indus> whats 10x?
[11:14] <sassyn> no one is in #karmic+1
[11:15] <prince_jammys> #ubuntu+1
[11:15] <indus> sassyn: true, its slower but there are people there
[11:15] <indus> sassyn: karmic is looking great btw isnt it
[11:15] <ActionParsnip1> has been here since alpha 2
[11:15] <indus> firecrotch: what is the advantage of bziping a file
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: if you give the output of the command, I can advise
[11:16] <david__> anyone know how to install a dvb dongle
[11:16] <firecrotch> indus: it compresses it, making it smaller
[11:16] <_lover_> y0
[11:16] <_lover_> how can i connecto to gprs
[11:16] <indus> firecrotch: so gzip does the same isnt it?
[11:16]  * Boohbah just realizes there is somebody going by the nick 'firecrotch'
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> david__: plug it in, run: lsusb   one of the lins will give an 8 hex character output you can websearch for
[11:16] <_lover_> how can i connecto to gprs
[11:16] <indus> Boohbah: :)))
[11:17] <stefg> david__: chances are that you only need to stick it in the usb port. see dmesg then if it is recognized
[11:17] <William> h
[11:17] <firecrotch> indus: yes, they do the same thing, in different ways
[11:17] <_lover_> how can i connecto to gprs
[11:17] <ubuntistas> iam on the upgraded version of jaunty i just did a change in partitions and did a clean install actionparsnip1 so wait a moment
[11:17] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: you can still load a terminal and fire the command
[11:17] <_lover_> how can i connecto to gprs
[11:17] <davi59> nothing happens when i put it in the usb port..
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> davi59: run the command and websearch for guides based on the hex output
[11:18] <ubuntistas> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03) that's it actionparsnip
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> davi59: if you use pastebin to give the output i'll lend a hand
[11:18] <cheslyn> what is januty? and how do u install it
[11:19] <stefg> jakerue: how is it going?
[11:19] <_lover_> how can i connecto to gprs
[11:19] <ubuntistas> cheslyn are u kidding us?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip1> !jaunty | cheslyn
[11:19] <jakerue> stefg: 4 min left
[11:19] <_lover_> how can i connecto to gprs
[11:19] <stefg> jakerue: ok
[11:19] <davi59> nothing hapens at all
[11:19] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[11:19] <boooooooooooooom> how can i connecto to gprs
[11:19] <davi59> no message comes up
[11:20] <boooooooooooooom> lol
[11:20] <boooooooooooooom> what u lame ubuntutards
[11:20] <ActionParsnip1> davi59: nothing will happen, you get an output that you need to read, one line will be your usb device with an identifier, throw that at your favourite websearch engine and you will be running
[11:20] <boooooooooooooom> u don't give any reply to me
[11:20] <ActionParsnip1> boooooooooooooom: well what hardware do you use? you avent told use anything at all
[11:21] <firecrotch> !patience | boooooooooooooom
[11:21] <davi59> ok where do i find this?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> davi59: in the terminal
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> !terminal | davi59
[11:21] <boooooooooooooom> hello i am using sony ericcson phone
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> boooooooooooooom: what hardware do you use, usb, bluetooth? We have zero information
[11:21] <boooooooooooooom> usb
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> boooooooooooooom: ok getting somewhere now
[11:22] <boooooooooooooom> datacable
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> boooooooooooooom: see how information and details gets things moving
[11:22] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi there, anybody knows if the samsung n140 netbook works well with ubuntu?
[11:22] <boooooooooooooom> ok ...
[11:22] <timClicks> Le-Chuck_ITA: you could try it with a live cd
[11:22] <godstar> Le-Chuck_ITA: if it runs the atom cpu, it will run fine.
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> boooooooooooooom: rather than whining and generally flooding the channel, you can give more info which is actually helpful. I found this guide. Looks decent. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Connect-to-the-Internet-from-Anywhere-Using-a-GPRS-Connection-50670.shtml
[11:23] <timClicks> Le-Chuck_ITA: you may like to search through http://ubuntuforums.org/
[11:23] <Le-Chuck_ITA> godstar: the nc10 does not work well, I found several sites with several problems and timClicks I have to buy it and I *don't* use windows :)
[11:23] <boooooooooooooom> ok let see
[11:23] <boooooooooooooom> :P
[11:23] <Le-Chuck_ITA> so when I order it it has to work :)
[11:23] <godstar> Le-Chuck_ITA: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[11:23] <Le-Chuck_ITA> no search result
[11:24] <Le-Chuck_ITA> godstar: ? I don't own it yet
[11:24] <godstar> Le-Chuck_ITA: smart phone?
[11:24] <davi59> ok have teminal open, what is next?
[11:24] <Le-Chuck_ITA> no is a netbook?
[11:24] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip1 can u give the command again please...
[11:24] <timClicks> Le-Chuck_ITA: Perhaps wait for 9.10 - moblin netbook release will be great
[11:24] <ubuntistas> i mean the link
[11:24] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: its a site: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[11:25] <godstar> Ubuntu NBR for me thanks.
[11:25] <Guest82563> hello
[11:25] <godstar> Don't get me wrong, moblin is fast.
[11:25] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip the resolution is good
[11:25] <WilliamHerry> hello
[11:25] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: cool
[11:25] <Guest82563> i have a problem with a phone modem i cant connect
[11:25] <WilliamHerry> finally i have a nickname
[11:26] <ubuntistas> and the fonts aren't too big but hey are nor normal
[11:26] <Guest82563> http://pastebin.com/m5f63869a
[11:26] <Guest82563> can someone take a look there please
[11:26] <timClicks> godstar :) I haven't tried them, but I'm a sucker for shiny marketing
[11:26] <Le-Chuck_ITA> thanks a lot everybody :)
[11:26] <jakerue> stefg: ok done
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Configuring_Ubuntu_Desktop_Fonts
[11:26] <toriq1> hello everybody. Anybody using apt-cacher on local network?
[11:26] <timClicks> Le-Chuck_ITA: good luck :) have fun
[11:27] <prospire> how do I tar a file?
[11:27] <prospire> I am trying "tar backup.sql" but that isn't working
[11:27] <meTTy> hi everybody! is there a msn client, which has a better webcam feature, appart from aMsn (webcam chat sucks)? thx
[11:27] <Le-Chuck_ITA> prospire right click on it and compress
[11:27] <WilliamHerry> tar -cvf filename
[11:27] <prospire> Le-Chuck_ITA: I want to do it through command line
[11:27] <Le-Chuck_ITA> prospire: otherwise, tar -czf backup.sql.tar.gz backup.sql
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> meTTy: the new pidgin has cam supprt
[11:27] <stefg> jakerue: ok, so what's left on sda5 ? ls /media/disk is quicker than uploading a screenie
[11:27] <Le-Chuck_ITA> but you don't need a tar (especially unzipped) for a single file)
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> meTTy: or there is emesene
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> meTTy: not sure of the spelling there, websearch it
[11:28] <kisuke> gksudo pcmanfm &
[11:28] <Prohibited> "Google" :)
[11:28] <prospire> Le-Chuck_ITA: I don't want to gzip it
[11:28] <embrik> gimp
[11:28] <kisuke> opps
[11:28] <jakerue> stefg: dev  home  lib  lost+found  tmp  var
[11:28] <meTTy> ActionParsnip1,  thank you :)
[11:28] <prospire> and whats -czf ?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> meTTy: np
[11:28] <Le-Chuck_ITA> prospire: it's not that different: tar -c filename.tar filename
[11:28] <JPSman> im just here to join the party!! heh.  dont think i'll upgrade, but should I torrent it for seeding purposes?
[11:29] <kisuke> pidign grabed keyboard V.V
[11:29] <Le-Chuck_ITA> sorry
[11:29] <Le-Chuck_ITA> prospire: tar -cf filename.tar filename
[11:29] <prospire> whats -c and -cf?
[11:29] <Le-Chuck_ITA> prospire: -cf filename specifies the destination name, it's a copy, not in-place
[11:29] <prince_jammys> prospire: ''man tar'' for what the options mean.
[11:29] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip1 i did that do i have to do a restart because the fonts of the browser are the same and the folders' desktop too
[11:29] <WilliamHerry> clear
[11:29] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: could restart x, see what happens
[11:29] <Guest82563> http://pastebin.com/m5f63869a
[11:29] <Guest82563> can someone take a look there please
[11:30] <Guest82563> i need help with wvdial
[11:30] <Le-Chuck_ITA> prospire: one hint: -c and -f are separate switches but tar follows the convention that you can combine single-char options in mysterious and unruled ways
[11:30] <ubuntistas> how can i restart x
[11:30] <Le-Chuck_ITA> prospire: "c" = create, "f"= filename
[11:30] <kisuke> !x
[11:30] <prince_jammys> "I want to use the commandline, but I need YOU to read out the manual to me."
[11:30] <stefg> jakerue: hmmm... not good. /tmp doesn't matter but the rest (except /home and lost+found) is important
[11:30] <kisuke> !x | ubuntistas
[11:30] <Le-Chuck_ITA> prince_jammys: not to mention it might be a homework :)
[11:30] <ubuntistas> do i have to install intel xorg driver
[11:31] <trijezdci> hi, anyone here familiar with Netatalk?
[11:31] <prospire> Le-Chuck_ITA: thanks
[11:31] <jakerue> stefg: I looked at a 2nd cut & paste but it's asking if I want to merge/skip
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> Guest82563: line 15 doesnt look right, isnt it meant to send actual data rather than "IP","internet" >
[11:31] <stefg> jakerue. you want to merge
[11:31] <jakerue> stefg: ahh and here's the error again
[11:32] <Author_test2> Firefox, update-manager, nautilus and others spit out "Details -  1: Server ping error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0" errors, anyone having these as well ?
[11:32] <Guest82563> ActionParsnip1: explain me please i dont undestand
[11:32] <Guest82563> ActionParsnip1: i followed a tutorial in a pdf i can send you
[11:32] <stefg> jakerue: or lets just do it on cli. sudo cp -ar /var /media/sda1
[11:32] <stefg> jakerue: wait ..
[11:32] <prospire> I think tar extension is available in only linux and not in windows, am I rihgt?
[11:32] <system404> hey guys need to know how to enable visual effects when i try to do it it says desktop effects could not be enabled  plus i cant set my resolution above 800x600
[11:33] <kisuke> ubuntistas: if you are useing a desktop as opposet to a commandline interface then no
[11:33] <prospire> right*
[11:33] <stefg> jakerue: or lets just do it on cli. sudo cp -ar /media/disk/var /media/sda1
[11:33] <Guest82563> Guest82563: hpmini+ubuntu + lg ku250 + yoigo  is what i have
[11:33] <Guest82563> ActionParsnip1:
[11:33] <Boohbah> stefg: cp -ar is redundant, -a includes -r  :)
[11:33] <ActionParsnip1> Guest82563: i'd review the pdf. I think you are supposed to flesh those out with some form of info
[11:34] <stefg> Boohbah: err... yes
[11:34] <jakerue> stefg: looking it up agpgart has to do with my display.  Trying command line now
[11:34] <JPSman> on NM, its not out until the 29 woops ok
[11:34] <JPSman> L8R guys
[11:34] <mo0nykit> prospire: as far as I know, you can untar in windows through cygwin, a Linux-like environment in Windows
[11:34] <Guest82563> ActionParsnip1: i dont undestand :(
[11:34] <prospire> mo0nykit: hmm
[11:34] <prospire> thanks for that info'
[11:34] <user_> jakarta
[11:34] <prospire> info*
[11:34] <WilliamHerry> Hit http://ubuntu.cn99.com jaunty-security/multiverse Sources
[11:34] <mo0nykit> prospire: np :)
[11:34] <prospire> :)
[11:34] <jakerue> stefg: no error...on the copy
[11:34] <WilliamHerry> what's hit mean?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> Guest82563: reread the pdf to verify the steps and settings you applied
[11:34] <Boohbah> WilliamHerry: i personally do not visit any url containing the string 'cn'
[11:35] <Guest82563> ActionParsnip1: http://www.3gspain.org/foros/showthread.php?t=6880   i did the pdf is there
[11:35] <Maximo> !hello
[11:35] <WilliamHerry> boohboh what is you mean?
[11:35] <stefg> jakerue: sudo cp -a /media/disk/dev /media/sda1
[11:36] <ubuntistas> fonts problem done! but the browser font are the same oops!
[11:36] <system404> hey guys need to know how to enable visual effects when i try to do it it says desktop effects could not be enabled  plus i cant set my resolution above 800x600 anyone got any ideas its an intel945 chipset
[11:36] <pshr_> how to clear apt
[11:36] <pshr_> like
[11:36] <kisuke> WilliamHerry: `".cn" means the server is baised in china
[11:36] <pshr_> apt-get clean
[11:36] <jakerue> stefg: OK again..no error
[11:36] <pshr_> some thing like that
[11:36] <Boohbah> WilliamHerry: .cn, China's TLD
[11:36] <pshr_> ??
[11:36] <FloodBot1> pshr_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <pshr_> !apt
[11:36] <Boohbah> WilliamHerry: i was just joking, i see that your url does not contain the .cn tld :)
[11:37] <WilliamHerry> fine
[11:37] <stefg> jakerue: sudo cp -a /media/disk/lib /media/sda1
[11:37] <mo0nykit> pshr_: I think that is the only way to clear the apt cache, if I get what you mean..
[11:37] <pshr_> Dude ! it says i cannot share, my tmp or what ever is full samba cannot share filesa
[11:37] <jakerue> stefg: ok
[11:37] <pshr_> and i restart the system it says me to free up space , now i am in failsafe gnome ... Gread
[11:37] <monk444> привет всем !
[11:38] <kisuke> !ru | monk444
[11:38] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip1 the browser's fonta are the same any clue?
[11:38] <ubuntistas> do i have to do a new profile
[11:38] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: do you mean bg?
[11:38] <ubuntistas> yup
[11:38] <stefg> jakerue: now we nned some mountpoints.sudo mkdir /media/sda1/tmp && sudo mkdir /media/sda1/home
[11:38] <embrik> does anybody know how to resize several images from command line?
[11:39] <mo0nykit> pshr_: hmm.. you probably installed too many packages? How about removing some packages that you do not need?
[11:39] <stefg> jakerue: then pastebin the output of ls -l /media/sda1
[11:39] <mo0nykit> pshr_: Like "sudo apt-get remove <package>", then "sudo apt-get clean"
[11:39] <pshr_> yup, and how about removing old kernels
[11:39] <system404> hey guys need to know how to enable visual effects when i try to do it it says desktop effects could not be enabled  plus i cant set my resolution above 800x600 anyone got any ideas its an intel945 chipset
[11:39] <pshr_> i have a jam of 3 kernels sitting in my laptop
[11:39] <pshr_> rm -rf <old kernel> might do ?
[11:39] <mo0nykit> pshr_: old kernels? okay, i've been there.. let me look it up..
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> system404: you have not got video drivers installed and/or configured
[11:40] <jakerue> stefg: sudo mkdir /media/sda1/tmp && sudo mkdir /media/sda1/home
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> system404: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[11:40] <mo0nykit> pshr_: DONT use rm on an old kernel
[11:40] <mo0nykit> :)
[11:40] <jakerue> stefg: sorry ... mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/sda1/tmp': File exists
[11:40] <system404> they are installed i think but u may be right on the configured part
[11:40] <pshr_> okie mo0nykit
[11:40] <Author_test2> Firefox, update-manager, nautilus and others spit out "Details -  1: Server ping error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0" errors, anyone having these as well ?
[11:40] <system404> to secs ill check action
[11:40] <embrik> does anybody know the command to resize several images at a time from command line?
[11:40] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip yes
[11:40] <nazgjunk> embrik: you're looking for imagemagick
[11:40] <stefg> jakerue: ok, so only sudo mkdir /media/sda1/home
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> embrik: imagemagick!!
[11:41] <embrik> ok
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> embrik: you will love it
[11:41] <stefg> jakerue: will will exist by now, too
[11:41] <system404> Actionparsnip1: $ lspci | grep -i vga
[11:41] <system404> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[11:41] <kisuke> Author_test2: check you internet settings
[11:41] <pshr_> Any light theme for ubuntu ?? suggestions please
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> embrik: it can also convert between formats too, its hugely powerful
[11:42] <ubuntistas> wave pshr_
[11:42] <jakerue> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/282894/
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> pshr_: do you mean light in colour?
[11:42] <kisuke> pshr_: lxde
[11:42] <jayrox> i need help on how to make a live usb (going to boot from usb)
[11:42] <firecrotch> pshr_: gnome-look.org has lots of themes for you to look through
[11:42] <godstar> system404: ATI or Nvidia ?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> kisuke: thats not a theme that a DE
[11:42] <mo0nykit> pshr_: you can do a "sudo apt-get remove <kernel-image>"
[11:42] <kisuke> opps my bad i misread what he asked
[11:42] <ubuntistas> why don't get a save and quit form my firefox any clue?
[11:42] <system404> godstar: intel
[11:42] <pshr_> okies mo0nykit
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> system404: if you run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:42] <pshr_> any nice ubuntu theme
[11:42] <mo0nykit> pshr_: you can look in /boot directory to know which <kernel-image> to remove
[11:43] <stefg> jakerue: ok. so we've moved the whole system except your personal files and settings over now
[11:43] <pshr_> yeah mo0nykit
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> system404: you can find the very small section with one line that says Identifier "Configured video device"
[11:43] <system404> yes found that
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> system404: and under that but above EndSection add the line:  Driver   "intel"
[11:43] <mo0nykit> pshr_: i've read that it's good practice not to remove the second-to-latest kernel :)
[11:43] <godstar> system404: have you tried system/administration/hardware drivers yet?
[11:43] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip1 the browser's fonta are the same(big) any clue?
[11:43] <kisuke> ubuntistas: go to edit>prefrences and set it manually moust likely you checked "don't ask me again" at some point
[11:43] <stefg> jakerue: ok. now clean up /media/disk, so that only lost+found and /home are left
[11:43] <pshr_> okeis....
[11:43] <mo0nykit> pshr_: or your most trusted kernel for that matter..
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> !font | ubuntistas try installing some fonts maybe
[11:44] <jakerue> stefg: ok.  Are we making home it's own partition now...?  Should I just del those folders then?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> system404: save the new file and reboot
[11:44] <stefg> jakerue: then you have to move all folders inside /home one level up in the filesystem
[11:44] <mo0nykit> pshr_: you might also want to remove the correponding headers (linux-headers-<same version number as kernel>)
[11:44] <system404> actionparsnip it curently says under the=at Driver "vesa"
[11:45] <jakerue> stefg: ok only a dir with my name on it.  Cut and pasted
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> system404: thats the failsafe driver, you want to use intel
[11:45] <system404> will i remove driver "vesa"
[11:45] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip1 chromium's fonts are good, weird
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> system404: if it doesnt work then boot to grub
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: then rename ~/.mozilla and try again
[11:45] <ubuntistas> kisuke where exactly i can't see it
[11:45] <stefg> jakerue: alright. so /media/disk now only has lost+found and your user folder, right?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> system404: and select recovery mode, select root, you can then use vi or nano to edit it back
[11:46] <system404> will i remove the line Driver "vesa"
[11:46] <jakerue> stefg: and a folder called home...delete that too?
[11:46] <jayrox> how do i format my usb to FAT
[11:46] <kisuke> system404: the vesa driver is the "safe" driver that works when all else fails (usually)
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> system404: just change "vesa" to "intel"
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> jayrox: gksudo gparted
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> jayrox: make sure it is unmounted
[11:46] <stefg> jakerue: that /home should be emty and can be deleted then
[11:46] <joaopinto> actually vesa fails on me, unlike the intel driver :)
[11:47] <jayrox> how do i make sure it is unmounted?
[11:47] <Jenny> where there is a will, there is a way
[11:47] <jakerue> stefg: it was and it's gone
[11:47] <jayrox> i just want to format a usb...
[11:47] <jayrox> to FAT
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> jayrox: in nautilus, if you see the device in places, right click it, if unmount is an option, click it
[11:47] <stefg> jakerue: what's left now is to glue the bits and pieces together. we start by realigning the nootloader to its config files
[11:48] <stefg> *bootloader
[11:48] <jayrox> ohh ok
[11:48] <jayrox> im also using ubuntu netbook remix if that helps
[11:48] <ubuntistas> how actionparsnip1? i renamed it but nothing
[11:48] <stefg> jakerue: sudo grub .... you'll get a grub prompt
[11:48] <slowacki> kjnk
[11:48] <slowacki> :)
[11:49] <ubuntistas> how actionparsnip1? i renamed it but nothing
[11:49] <jakerue> stefg: OK...it's probing devices....
[11:49] <ubuntistas> do i have to do a restart
[11:49] <jakerue> stefg: and at the prompt now
[11:49] <kisuke> ubuntistas:  goto the "edit "menu  select "prefrences" about halfway down the first tab is the option you are looking for
[11:49] <JohannesSM64> are VT-d and VT-x actually important for virtualizing XP from Linux?
[11:49] <cheslyn> does ubuntu have lots of <kernel - images>
[11:49] <embrik> ActionParsnip1: installed imagemagick, read man-pages, try to start it by typing imagemagick
[11:49] <stefg> jakerue: when it's done : find /boot/grub/stage1 ... should gibe (hd0,0)
[11:50] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: when you rerun firefox, you will get a stock profile
[11:50] <ActionParsnip1> embrik: you can use it at command line
[11:50] <ubuntistas> yup
[11:50] <booooooooooom> hello
[11:50] <embrik> ActionParsnip1: Is there a gui for imgagemagick - it doresn't start in commandline
[11:50] <kisuke> ubuntistas: did you find it?
[11:51] <ubuntistas> firefox -ProfileManager actionparnip1 this command
[11:51] <jakerue> stefg: I get the hd(0,0)
[11:51] <ubuntistas> i did a rename but nothing
[11:51] <stefg> jakerue: root (hd0,0)
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> embrik: it doesnt start in cli either, it gives you tools to manipulate, like the convert command
[11:51] <stefg> jakerue: setup (hd0)
[11:51] <kisuke> booooooooooom: hi
[11:52] <ubuntistas> yes kisuke the problem is that when i open chatzilla doesn't work properly that's why anyway thx!
[11:52] <booooooooooom> y0
[11:52] <embrik> ActionParsnip1: ok, thanks :-)
[11:52] <jakerue> stefg: ok done
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> embrik: and mogrify
[11:53] <stefg> jakerue: exit grub by quit
[11:53] <pshr_> Themes
[11:53] <pshr_> any good ones
[11:53] <stefg> jakerue: now the fstab
[11:53] <booooooooooom> 2. Open Synaptic package manager and install the gnome-ppp package.
[11:53] <booooooooooom> . Open Synaptic package manager and install the gnome-ppp package.
[11:53] <stefg> jakerue: i'd need an updated 'sudo blkid' on pastebin
[11:53] <kisuke> ubuntistas: chatzilla has its own option for that (i think)  i don't remember where it is scence its been a while scence i used it and never did gointo the exact same channels
[11:53] <pshr_> How about setting all the desktop icons to same size.... God! it really gets on my nerve to find each icon of different size
[11:53] <pshr_> Address to the problem pleas
[11:53] <booooooooooom>   where i fet it
[11:53] <booooooooooom>   where i get it
[11:53] <ActionParsnip1> embrik: e.g. mkdir ~/converted; find . -iname "*.jpg" -exec convert -resize 50% {} ~/converted/{} \;
[11:54] <jakerue> stefg: browse to sda1 to get the fstab?
[11:54] <booooooooooom> 2. Open Synaptic package manager and install the gnome-ppp package.
[11:54] <jayrox> when creating a live img usb should i use fat 16 or fat 32
[11:54] <pshr_> Dude!! How about setting all the desktop icons to same size.... God! it really gets on my nerve to find each icon of different size
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> booooooooooom: sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp
[11:54] <stefg> jakerue: that's not required to get the UUIDs from blkid, but you need to write an fstab there anyway
[11:54] <jakerue> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/282903/
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> embrik: that sort of thing
[11:54] <booooooooooom> it already in ubuntu
[11:54] <mo0nykit> !repeat | pshr_
[11:55] <pshr_> mo0nykit, do you know how to set them to same size
[11:55] <mo0nykit> pshr_: no i don't
[11:55] <pshr_> like in case i have a pdf it gets all biggie
[11:55] <pshr_> oh! k
[11:55] <ActionParsnip1> embrik: will search from the pwd recursively and resize the files by 50% and spit them out to ~/converted
[11:55] <booooooooooom> gnome ppp exist already in uBuntu ?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip1> system404: better?
[11:56] <booooooooooom> exists
[11:56] <mo0nykit> pshr_: i just discovered. right click, choose stretch icon.
[11:56] <Gnea> booooooooooom: so use it
[11:56] <booooooooooom> OK :)
[11:56] <pshr_> yeah thats totally manually.... Some thing at ease would be great
[11:56] <stefg> jakerue: hold on a sec while i figure out your fstab
[11:56] <mo0nykit> pshr_: haha yeah.. i don't know any other way
[11:56] <system404> Actionparsnip: i tried that it didnt work now i cant log on to ubuntu im hooked up to my tv and after doing that edit it says unrecognised video format so ive booted up the live cd in live cd how do i change the file back
[11:56] <jakerue> stefg: sure thing
[11:56] <ActionParsnip1> embrik: imagemagick is massively powerful like that if you buddy it up with find -exec
[11:57] <pshr_> !themes
[11:57] <booooooooooom> ':D
[11:57] <booooooooooom> pshr enjoy
[11:57] <booooooooooom> :D
[11:57] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip1 do you mean to rename the name of the browser's profile?
[11:57] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip1 do you mean to rename the name of the browser's profile?
[11:57] <booooooooooom> !themes
[11:57] <booooooooooom> :D
[11:57] <booooooooooom> bye
[11:57] <pshr_> ha ha bbye booooooooooom
[11:58] <fedrawi> Demonstrate the use of script pastebin.sh
[11:58] <pshr_> thanks ;
[11:58] <ubuntistas> how can i do a rerun?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: close all firefoxes. then run: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_backup01102009
[11:58] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: then rerun firefox
[11:58] <ubuntistas> okey
[11:58] <fedrawi> Is there to explain to us the use of scripts pastebin.sh
[11:58] <system404> Actionparsnip: i tried that it didnt work now i cant log on to ubuntu im hooked up to my tv and after doing that edit it says unrecognised video format so ive booted up the live cd in live cd how do i change the file back
[11:58] <wavez> my computer has an NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT. I'm trying to boot ubuntu. I think it's version 6.06. The older version is required for my use. The display works fine at the boot menu but not after.
[11:58] <ActionParsnip1> fedrawi: pastebinit is in the repos if you want cli pastebin functionality?
[11:58] <stefg> jakerue: you might be interested meanwhile to read the fstab factoid
[11:58] <stefg> !fstab | jakerue
[11:58] <ActionParsnip1> !6.06
[11:59] <wavez> Can anyone help me, or direct me to a good place to get help with my display problem?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip1> wavez: the desktop isnt supported anymore so you will have a hard time
[11:59] <wavez> ActionParsnip1, the desktop isn't supported anymore?
[11:59] <fedrawi> ActionParsnip1, I mean cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebin.sh
[11:59] <ActionParsnip1> wavez: you may get luck if you install the .run file from www.nvidia.com
[11:59] <ActionParsnip1> !6.06 | wavez
[12:00] <ActionParsnip1> fedrawi: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[12:00] <system404> Actionparsnip: any ideas
[12:00] <fedrawi> ok
[12:00] <jakerue> stefg: I understand how it works..sorta...I do play around with stuff but some files like fstab make me nervous about making errors
[12:00] <ActionParsnip1> system404: ok then boot to recovery mode root console and edit back
[12:01] <wavez> ActionParsnip1, it might be 8.04
[12:01] <system404> i cant get into grub to go into recovery mode unsupported video format but im in the live cd and can access my files that way
[12:02] <wavez> ActionParsnip1, I'm trying to test out EMC2. The site says it uses either 6.06, or 8.04
[12:02] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip u destroyed me man
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> wavez: lsb_release -c     will tell you
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> system404: grub is not affected y videodrivers
[12:02] <ubuntistas> same result i did that too
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> system404: it uses text mode, as soon as the system starts to boot press ESC quite regularaly
[12:03] <ubuntistas> and not addons or bookmarks anyway thx for your help
[12:03] <system404> ok ill try that thanks
[12:03] <pshr_> !themes
[12:03] <system404> once in recovery console how do i edit the file again
[12:03] <wavez> ActionParsnip1, so I should try to boot ubuntu and then get to the console using ESC?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> system404: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> system404: edit the line as normal
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> system404: then press ctrl+x, y then enter
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> system404: you can then reboot with: shutdown -r now
[12:04] <system404> cheers
[12:05] <stefg> jakerue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/282909/ watch out that line wrap doesn't mess things up and make sure you have an empty line ath bottom
[12:05] <wavez> will try. brb
[12:06] <frogzoo> grrr - seems like lots of people have had trouble with their sound card disappearing in jaunty
[12:07] <jakerue> stefg: ok I think I got it.  Where should I save this?
[12:07] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip1 same outcome with a destroyed result
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: ok well we only renamed so you can easily rollback
[12:07] <stefg> jakerue: /media/sda1/etc/fstab
[12:07] <pshr_> !themes
[12:08] <ubuntistas> rollback :) how???????
[12:08] <ubuntistas> any other option before doing the rollback actionparsnip1
[12:09] <jakerue> stefg: OK replaced the old one
[12:09] <ce___smg> ao ...
[12:09] <stefg> jakerue: then cross fingers and reboot (hopefully in the installed system, not into Live CD again) But come back in any case, there's some mopping up to do
[12:09] <jakerue> stefg: ok see you in 5
[12:10] <ubuntistas> i have to catch my class fast please i can't stand....
[12:10] <dg_> .nick iam
[12:10] <dg_> oups
[12:12] <JoshDreamland> When I scroll very fast at all with my wheel, it starts interpreting it backwards every few ticks
[12:12] <meTTy> i downloaded a tar file and extracted it on the desktop, in which directory does linux usually store such folders of programms like emesene? thx
[12:12] <JoshDreamland> So if I'm scrolling up, it'll go three ticks up, then two or so down,
[12:13] <JoshDreamland> meTTy: You downloaded a tarball of a program?
[12:13] <meTTy> JoshDreamland,  yes
[12:13] <JoshDreamland> Or a tarball of source code?
[12:13] <JoshDreamland> I've never seen program releases as tar, usually as deb or pkg
[12:14] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, i downloaded a tarball of emesene
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[12:14] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, the last one on this page: http://emesene.org/download.html
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[12:15] <koolhead> sleepy
[12:15] <JoshDreamland> meTTy: What distro are you running?
[12:15] <JoshDreamland> WOW
[12:15] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, ubuntu (netbook remix) 9.04
[12:15] <JoshDreamland> I didn't notice this was #ubuntu
[12:16] <JoshDreamland> Did you try apt-getting it?
[12:16] <meTTy> g
[12:16] <remoteCTR1> i need this kghostview installed, apt tells me that is referred to by another package but has no installation candidate, can somebody pls help me find out what package kghostview is part of?
[12:16] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, yes but i didn't have the current version in my rep
[12:17] <JoshDreamland> meTTy: It gives me a deb file when I go to download.
[12:17] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, so i tried to just download it directly
[12:17] <jakerue> stefg: failure
[12:18] <JoshDreamland> And it gave you a tarball instead of this deb file?
[12:18] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, http://sourceforge.net/projects/emesene/files/emesene/emesene-1.5/emesene-1.5.tar.gz/download gives me a tar.gz
[12:18] <stefg> jakerue: let me guess... didn't find root-fs, dropped to prompt in initrd ?
[12:18] <jakerue> stefg: GRUB booted hd(0,4), ext3 and ended up with error 15
[12:18] <JoshDreamland> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/all/emesene/download
[12:18] <stefg> jakerue: right... we forgot /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:19] <stefg> jakerue: so you should have both sda1 and sda5 accesible from the places menu
[12:20] <jakerue> stefg: I do
[12:20] <hunor> szep napot mindenkinek
[12:20] <stefg> jakerue: we need to get /boot/grub/menu.lst on sda1
[12:20] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip1 solved how can i do a rollback now?
[12:20] <JoshDreamland> meTTy: Is that the version you wanted?
[12:21] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, ok i now downloaded the deb file, how will i have to proceed now if i want to delete the further versions and install the newer one?
[12:21] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, yes it is
[12:21] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip are u there?
[12:21] <jakerue> stefg: they seem to be named /media/disk and /media/disk-1
[12:21] <JoshDreamland> If you don't trust the package manager to do so, you can try apt-get uninstall
[12:21] <JoshDreamland> But from here, you should just be able to double click the deb file and it'll handle the rest
[12:21] <stefg> jakerue: yup disk is sda1 disk-1 is sda5
[12:22] <ubuntistas> being ubuntero is magical but some bugs destroy the whole story!
[12:23] <ubuntistas> roleback please to my previous profile of firefox any idea?
[12:23] <ubuntistas> i mean rollback
[12:23] <ozone89> mornig!
[12:24] <ozone89> i'd like to update fglrx, but I need help O_o
[12:24] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, i got the following error by doing that: python-support (>= 0.90.0) :(
[12:24] <jakerue> stefg: OK got it open
[12:24] <JoshDreamland> And I suppose aptitude thinks it's at newest?
[12:24] <Jenny> how can i find some word in vim?
[12:24] <stefg> jakerue: put on pastebin, plz
[12:24] <JoshDreamland> what version are you running?
[12:24] <meTTy> yes
[12:24] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, yes
[12:25] <hmw> I am trying to use "partimage" to clone a windows install, but am having troubles (Cloned Disk -> XP bluescreen after 5 seconds) - can you recommend another tool, which is more fool-proof than partimage?
[12:25] <ubuntistas> roleback please to my previous profile of firefox any idea?
[12:25] <ubuntistas> rollback
[12:25] <jakerue> stefg: right, sorry ..  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/282920/
[12:25] <ozone89> anybody?
[12:25] <meTTy> JoshDreamland,  0.8.7ubuntu4
[12:26] <stefg> jakerue: ok, and to doublecheck: sudo blkid once again on pastebin
[12:26] <JoshDreamland> python --version printed that?
[12:26] <system404> Actionparsnip: no joy cant get into recovery that way still keeps saying unsupported video format its not ubuntu its my damn tv big 42 inch plasma does everything except the things i want it too lmao anyway i can access live cd so how to change the file
[12:26] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, python version is 2.6.2
[12:27] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip solved how can i do a rollback now?
[12:27] <aboanas93> hello
[12:27] <JoshDreamland> One moment, I must be missing something
[12:27] <jakerue> stefg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/282922/
[12:27] <WilliamHerry> hello
[12:27] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip solved how can i do a rollback now?
[12:27] <ubuntistas> actionparsnip solved how can i do a rollback now?
[12:28] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, kk
[12:28] <stefg> jakerue: k
[12:28] <aboanas93> hi
[12:28] <chill1> hello
[12:28] <WilliamHerry> ubuntu is start and gentoo is end
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> WilliamHerry:  you may want to try making a little more sence.
[12:29] <JoshDreamland> meTTy: Seems to be a known bug. People have a workaround involving downloading an RPM and converting it to DEB.
[12:29] <aboanas93> megauplad is blocked, hoe i unblock it?
[12:29] <Gerry_> Hello everyone
[12:29] <aboanas93> how?
[12:29] <chill1> Im getting init: rc-default termination problem, can someone help me pls??
[12:29] <prajjwal> hi
[12:29] <system404> Actionparsnip: no joy cant get into recovery that way still keeps saying unsupported video format its not ubuntu its my damn tv big 42 inch plasma does everything except the things i want it too lmao anyway i can access live cd so how to change the file
[12:29] <WilliamHerry> i can't join
[12:30] <meTTy> JoshDreamland,  thanks for your help, but as i am not very into linux yet, i don't know what a RPM is
[12:30] <aboanas93> help
[12:30] <ozone89> I'd like to update fglrx. how do I do?
[12:30] <JoshDreamland> It's Fedora's version of DEB, which is Ubuntu's version of EXE
[12:30] <Gerry_> Can someone help please with Jaunty freezing on heavy harddisk usage?
[12:30] <JoshDreamland> For installers
[12:30] <aboanas93> ???
[12:30] <ubuntistas> i did that command mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_backup01102009 how can i restore my previous profile , i mean a rollback
[12:30] <ubuntistas> ?
[12:30] <JoshDreamland> meTTy: Verify this is the right version and download it: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-9045
[12:30] <aboanas93> unblocking (proxy servers)?
[12:31] <system404> Actionparsnip: no joy cant get into recovery that way still keeps saying unsupported video format its not ubuntu its my damn tv big 42 inch plasma does everything except the things i want it too lmao anyway i can access live cd so how to change the file
[12:31] <aboanas93_> how i unblock megaupload?
[12:31] <system404> how to edit xorg.conf file via live cd anyone
[12:32] <iceroot> system404: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:32] <aboanas93_>  how i unblock megaupload?
[12:32] <iceroot> system404: or gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:32] <JoshDreamland> system404: before installing?
[12:32] <system404> after installing
[12:33] <Gerry_> Can someone help please? My ubuntu Jaunty constantly freezes (total system hang up) when I have heavy harddisk utilization.
[12:33] <JoshDreamland> Either thing iceroot said would be great
[12:33] <system404> i previously edited and messed up so have to edit it back now cant get to recovery console so have to edit via live cd
[12:33] <aboanas93_>  how do i unblock megaupload?
[12:33] <iceroot> aboanas93_: what is megaupload?
[12:33] <ubuntistas> i did that command mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_backup01102009 how can i restore my previous profile , i mean a rollback
[12:33] <booooooooooooooo> :P
[12:33] <JoshDreamland> system404: cd /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:33] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, ok i'll do so, should i download the src rpm?
[12:33] <iceroot> JoshDreamland: not cd
[12:34] <booooooooooooooo>  i can't find any gnomeppp
[12:34] <ikonia> meTTy: rpm's aren't intended for ubuntu
[12:34] <JoshDreamland> system404: ls | grep xorg.conf
[12:34] <system404> i need to edit the xorg.conf file of my install not the cd
[12:34] <stefg> jakerue: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/282929/ ... for some mysteriuos reason i got double LF's .... but shouldn't matter
[12:34] <iceroot> ubuntistas: mv ~/.mozilla_backup01102009 ~/-mozilla
[12:34] <JoshDreamland> oh, right.
[12:34] <aboanas93_> yo guys
[12:34] <ikonia> system404: open it with your text editor of choice - /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:34] <booooooooooooooo>  i can't find any gnomeppp in package manger
[12:34] <iceroot> system404: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:34] <booooooooooooooo>  i can't find any gnomeppp in package manger
[12:34] <iceroot> system404: or gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:35] <booooooooooooooo>  i can't find any gnomeppp in package manger
[12:35] <JoshDreamland> iceroot: He needs to restore a backup.
[12:35] <meTTy> ikonia, JoshDreamland  told me to download the rpm and somehow convert it
[12:35] <ikonia> booooooooooooooo: search for gnome-ppp
[12:35] <aboanas93_>  how do i unblock megaupload?
[12:35] <WilliamHerry> how can i change default editor?
[12:35] <Gerry_> iceroot: Ubuntu does not block websites like megaupload by itself. If it is blocked, that is due to your network administrator doing so. No chance to unblock on your side then.
[12:35] <ikonia> meTTy: what do you want to download ?
[12:35] <booooooooooooooo> :P
[12:35] <JoshDreamland> iceroot: I think whatever he saved it in would have backed it up for him
[12:35] <ikonia> aboanas93_: what is blocking it ?
[12:35] <JoshDreamland> ikonia: I told him to get a Fedora RPM Of it.
[12:35] <system404> thanks iceroot but that shows up an unedited version it dont bring up the one i edited the changes i made arent there
[12:35] <ikonia> JoshDreamland: of what ?
[12:35] <aboanas93_> my ISP!!!
[12:35] <ikonia> aboanas93_: talk to your ISP then - it's not an ubuntu issue
[12:36] <booooooooooooooo>   how can i reinstall the grup in Ubuntu
[12:36] <jakerue> stefg:  OK I will reboot and get back to you
[12:36] <booooooooooooooo>   how can i reinstall the grup in Ubuntu
[12:36] <booooooooooooooo>   how can i reinstall the grup in Ubuntu
[12:36] <iceroot> system404: then open your file/backup
[12:36] <FloodBot1> booooooooooooooo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <JoshDreamland> ikonia: There's a bug that you can work around by converting the RPM instead
[12:36] <meTTy> ikonia, i  want to install emesene 1.5, but there is a known bug with some python stuff
[12:36] <ikonia> booooooooooooooo: stop
[12:36] <JoshDreamland> ikonia: Some MSN replacement for linux
[12:36] <aboanas93_> na ,not that. how can i use ubuntu proxy?
[12:36] <Martin1> hi there
[12:36] <stefg> jakerue: wait
[12:36] <iceroot> booooooooooooooo: you dont want to uninstall grub
[12:36] <ikonia> JoshDreamland: fedora rpm's aren't intended for ubuntu - they require different library versions
[12:36] <aboanas93_> is there one?
[12:36] <ikonia> !grub > booooooooooooooo
[12:36] <JoshDreamland> ikonia: not if you use alien to convert thme
[12:36] <JoshDreamland> them
[12:36] <WilliamHerry> apt-get can do that
[12:36] <stefg> jakerue: let's do some basic things first
[12:36] <ikonia> JoshDreamland: yes - if you use alien to conver them they stil have the same dependencies
[12:36] <booooooooooooooo> sorry
[12:37] <Gerry_> Has someone else encountered freezing the whole system on Ubuntu Jaunty 64 bit when there is heavy disk usage?
[12:37] <booooooooooooooo> :)
[12:37] <stefg> jakerue: unmount  /media/disk and /media/disk1
[12:37] <JoshDreamland> meTTy: Did you download the RPM, and is it the right version?
[12:37] <WilliamHerry> how can i change default editor when i use visudo command?
[12:37] <ikonia> meTTy: I assume you've tried emesene from the ubuntu repos ?
[12:37] <system404> anyone any ideas on my issue
[12:37] <meTTy> JoshDreamland,  what kind of rpm should i download? src, i586...?
[12:37] <ikonia> meTTy: I would very strongly advise you not to try to install fedora packages on ubuntu
[12:37] <JoshDreamland> ikonia: The dependency thing is a known bug. Someone found a workaround this way.
[12:37] <ikonia> meTTy: VERY strongly
[12:38] <ikonia> JoshDreamland: if a package is compiled with dependencies - nothing can change that, there is no work around
[12:38] <prajjwal> is there a way to auto signing in -mount my other partition after
[12:38] <JoshDreamland> ikonia: I would normally as well, except this is a known workaround.
[12:38] <ikonia> JoshDreamland: alien just unpacks it
[12:38] <booooooooooooooo> :)
[12:38] <JoshDreamland> ikonia: He meets the dependencies.
[12:38] <prajjwal> is there a way to auto mount my other partitions ***
[12:38] <Martin1> I am in the wrong chat but perhaps someone can help me. I am installing zen cafe (zenwalk) from an usb stick. later i have to give a directory where the filesystem is in. so which directory can my usb stick have?
[12:38] <ikonia> booooooooooooooo: can you please stop doing that - this channel is for ubuntu discussion only
[12:38] <JoshDreamland> ikonia: The DEB package's check is buggy.
[12:38] <jakerue> stefg: hold on....trying to get permissions to edit sda1
[12:38] <ikonia> Martin1: yes this is the wrong channel
[12:38] <booooooooooooooo> lolz i saw some fun here
[12:39] <stefg> jakerue: i'd run a 'sudo fsck /dev/sda1' and after that a 'sudo fsck /dev/sda5' .. never trust gparted. then you want to claim some space back on sda5. 'sudo tune2fs -m0 /dev/sda5'
[12:39] <meTTy> JoshDreamland,  why can't i just update my python?
[12:39] <booooooooooooooo> thats why i am doing it
[12:39] <booooooooooooooo> plzz don't banned me
[12:39] <Gerry_> Martin1: Check if it was auto-mounted and is in "media" or "mnt"
[12:39] <WilliamHerry> k
[12:39] <ikonia> booooooooooooooo: please stop. The conversation topic is ubuntu support only, please stick to that
[12:39] <JoshDreamland> meTTy: It's my understanding that your python version exceeds the requirement by two large releases.
[12:39] <JoshDreamland> Being full versions.
[12:39] <mcmlxxi> !dualboot
[12:39] <booooooooooooooo> :( ok
[12:39] <stefg> jakerue: and of course you nedd to 'gksudo gedit /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.lst' ordinary users are not allowed to mess with system files
[12:40] <hermdog> hello
[12:40] <JoshDreamland> meTTy, ikonia: http://forum.emesene.org/index.php/topic,2258.0.html
[12:40] <Gerry_> Has someone else encountered freezing the whole system on Ubuntu Jaunty 64 bit when there is heavy disk usage?
[12:40] <hermdog> i need some help, so i press some strange keyboard combo and now the screen is following my mouse around
[12:40] <mcmlxxi> how to dual boot with another distro?
[12:40] <zzorn> Is/leabve
[12:40] <Martin1> Gerry_: the problem is that I cant check that. it is just a field in which I have to enter the directory. no terminal
[12:40] <JoshDreamland> Gerry_: It's very difficult to diagnose the problem knowing so little about it
[12:40] <system404> ok ive found the file i need to change but dont have permissions to change it in the live cd how do i get permission
[12:41] <jakerue> stefg: ok got it copied...working on the rest
[12:41] <hermdog> as i move the mouse around the screen the screen will shift with it
[12:41] <Gerry_> JoshDreamland: : If I knew more, I would not be here but solving it myself.
[12:41] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, ok thanx, i will have a look at that thread
[12:42] <hermdog> its as if the screen is only showing a small part of my total resolution
[12:42] <jakerue> stefg: can't unmount media - disk is busy
[12:42] <hermdog> and my mouse helps to move around the screen
[12:42] <hermdog> i need to make it stop! i has not done anything like this at all!!
[12:42] <JoshDreamland> Gerry_: You know hard drive make and age
[12:42] <stefg> jakerue: save and exit gedit, leave the directory view of sda1
[12:43] <mitnick> !ping
[12:43] <hermdog> !ping
[12:43] <hermdog> lol
[12:43] <JoshDreamland> Gerry_: You also know the details as to why you say the hard drive load is the cause.
[12:43] <JoshDreamland> How are you sure it isn't CPU usage in general?
[12:43] <jakerue> stefg: it's not open.  Only have terminal,ffox and pidgin open
[12:43]  * booooooooooooooo boom boom 
[12:43] <ikonia> booooooooooooooo: please stop that
[12:44] <Gerry_> JoshDreamland:  Hard disks are: 40 GB IDE Notebook Harddisk (for low power consumption) and 2x 1GB S-ATA (Software RAID 1). The RAID harddisks are brand new.
[12:44] <stefg> jakerue: sync && sudo umount /dev/sda1
[12:44] <JoshDreamland> Oh lord
[12:44] <JoshDreamland> I would rather have nothing to do with RAID things. Bad experiences. Are those what's in use?
[12:45] <Gerry_> JoshDreamland: I found out first that the system stopped responding when pushing large data amounts over gigabit lan to the RAID array.
[12:45] <jakerue> stefg: still no go.  Won't let me do it from Places menu either
[12:45] <Gerry_> JoshDreamland: I then tested with the 40 GB IDE harddisk to rule out a defect software raid, but same problem. System freezes.
[12:45] <jakerue> stefg: ok had to close terminal window
[12:45] <stefg> jakerue: hmm .. crap. anyway you can run sudo tune2fs -m0 /dev/sda5
[12:45] <hermdog> what does Super + R usually do?
[12:46] <jakerue> stefg: all unmounted, what next?
[12:46] <Gerry_> JoshDreamland: I then tried bonie++ to test harddisk only without network being involved - again system froze.
[12:46] <Gerry_> JoshDreamland: Nothing in the log files.
[12:46] <hermdog> :(
[12:47] <stefg> jakerue: the tune2fs line, then for good measure  an fsck for either partition
[12:47] <JoshDreamland> Gerry_: Not sure I can help. Let me think, though.
[12:47] <JoshDreamland> Okay, wait
[12:47] <JoshDreamland> Did you do anything to make sure the 40GB wasn't at fault?
[12:48] <Gerry_> JoshDreamland: Ok
[12:48] <jakerue> stefg: ok done all
[12:48] <JoshDreamland> I'd run fsck on it in quiet 3
[12:48] <stefg> jakerue: ok. good look for another reboot
[12:48] <stefg> *luck
[12:48] <jakerue> stefg: here I go
[12:48] <Gerry_> JoshDreamland: I will try that.
[12:49] <booooooooooooooo> hey any ssh client exists in ubuntu
[12:49] <JoshDreamland> XD
[12:49] <ikonia> booooooooooooooo: yes, it's instlaled by default
[12:50] <DJones> !ssh | booooooooooooooo
[12:50] <booooooooooooooo> !pigdin
[12:51] <WilliamHerry> pidgin
[12:51] <booooooooooooooo> lolz
[12:51] <booooooooooooooo> !pidgin
[12:51] <booooooooooooooo> !terminal
[12:52] <timjdavey> hmm, does anyone know when sun-java6 got taken out of apt-get
[12:52] <SnowKitty> hello
[12:52] <SnowKitty> i need help compiling BSNES, i dunno how to do it
[12:52] <Pricey> timjdavey: search for it on packages.ubuntu.com
[12:52] <SnowKitty> i have the source that i got from byuu's site
[12:53] <WilliamHerry> how can i make my system support russian language
[12:53] <SnowKitty> WilliamHerry: pour vodka on it
[12:53] <indus> WilliamHerry: you can go to menu>system>admin>language support
[12:53] <timjdavey> cheers doing so now
[12:54] <indus> !sun
[12:54] <indus> !java
[12:54] <indus> timjdavey: have you enabled all the repos
[12:54] <booooooooooooooo> !gnome-ppp
[12:54] <WilliamHerry> thanks
[12:55] <timjdavey> ohhh no thats thats probably it
[12:55] <UF-Gast997> hi leute
[12:55] <timjdavey> hmmm I should have the multiverse repo though
[12:56] <UF-Gast997> hallo??
[12:56] <SnowKitty> >.>
[12:56] <stefg> !de | UF-Gast997
[12:57] <hermdog> is there a way to put X back to its full displayed resolution, without resetting it?
[12:57] <kindyroot> hi there, is there a known problem with apt unwilling to find any packages?
[12:57] <kindyroot> sources are fine
[12:57] <kindyroot> i am running on a fresh install
[12:58] <stefg> kindyroot: repos might be overloaded, karmic-beta release is ahead
[12:58] <helloworld245> hermdog: :"sudo killall gdm" then "sudo gdm" from tty
[12:58] <meTTy> JoshDreamland, thanks very much,worked all great, except for the webcam feature :) just a freeze image :(
[12:58] <Gerry_> JoshDreamland: If it is related to a corrupt file system: Why does the whole system freeze? No network traffic passing through anymore, no console login, no remote ssh login. Nothing.
[12:58] <miha> where can i ask launchpad translation question?
[12:58] <Pici> miha: #launchpad
[12:58] <miha> thx
[12:58] <SnowKitty> <.<
[12:59] <booooooooooooooo> my this channel is giving me fun
[12:59] <booooooooooooooo> :D
[12:59] <indus> miha:hmm #ubuntu-translation?
[12:59] <booooooooooooooo> guys if i install gnome-ppp then it ant another packages then ?
[12:59] <booooooooooooooo> *w
[12:59] <miha> indus: that one is empty
[12:59] <miha> launchpad seems ok
[12:59] <hermdog> helloworld245: wont that kill my current login?
[12:59] <indus> miha: i missed the s
[12:59] <kindyroot> stefg: I am not sure it's that, I am running through the same sources from another machine with more success
[12:59] <indus> miha: #ubuntu-translations
[13:00] <helloworld245> hermdog: yes it will
[13:00] <kindyroot> using the same repos
[13:00] <indus> miha: sorry  1 sec
[13:00] <jakerue> stefg: OK go to the ubuntu load....which game me issues about having no Home and then it took 5-6 min with just a blank screen....mouse but nothing else
[13:00] <saurav> SERIOUS QUESTION : is there any good download manager in ubuntu ? I am now using axel. But it has no GUI .
[13:00] <JoshDreamland> meTTy: 'Fraid  that isn't in my scope of capability
[13:00] <stefg> jakerue: permission issues
[13:00] <JoshDreamland> Gerry_: I take it that means fsck had nothing to say?
[13:01] <hermdog> helloworld245: is there any other way? i pressed super+r and it messed up the xserver viewing(im not seeing full displayed resolution) is there a keycombo that will undo it?
[13:01] <Gerry_> JoshDreamland: correct
[13:01] <indus> miha: #ubuntu-translators
[13:01] <pshr_> Dude!! Any side bars for ubuntu... like in vista
[13:01] <benjamin__> hi, has someone expiricenc with shell scripts? I use ina shell script the command read -a. successfully on a centos server but in kubuntu 9.1 I get "illigal option -a", any ideas?
[13:01] <stefg> jakerue: you did use the root-nautilus for the cut *and* the paste operatiion,, didn't you?
[13:01] <booooooooooooooo> :((
[13:02] <jakerue> stefg: I did
[13:02] <pshr_> !sidebar
[13:02] <indus> saurav: try d4x
[13:02] <booooooooooooooo> byeee
[13:02] <indus> !download
[13:02] <booooooooooooooo> indu are u Indiian
[13:02] <indus> !info > d4x
 wants you to know: Retrieve information on a package: !info <package>
[13:02] <saurav> Thanks Indus
[13:02] <helloworld245> hermdog: well, i'm not aware if there exists such a way
[13:02] <indus> !info  d4x
[13:02] <hermdog> helloworld245: CRAP!! im running a php script and i dont want to rerun it later!!
[13:03] <stefg> jakerue: so mount /dev/sda1 again, we're going to chroot into the installed system
[13:03] <booooooooooooooo> indus are u Indiian
[13:03] <booooooooooooooo> hi saurav
[13:03] <booooooooooooooo> Jai Hind
[13:03] <booooooooooooooo> indus are u Indiian
[13:03] <jakerue> stefg: ok ready
[13:03] <indus> booooooooooooooo: yes, i prefer if you change your nick,its too distracting
[13:03] <saurav> Hello B0*9
[13:03] <stefg> jakerue: i assume it gets mounted to /media/disk again
[13:03] <Kapoor> ok bhai
[13:03] <indus> saurav: also try gwget
[13:03] <Kapoor> can i talk u to in Hindi
[13:04] <indus> this is english channel only
[13:04] <jakerue> stefg: I have both part mounted
[13:04] <ikonia> Kapoor: you won't be asked again to keep to the channel topic
[13:04] <Kapoor> bhai plzz i can't speak english every well
[13:04] <helloworld245> hermdog: well, system > preferences > display
[13:04] <hermdog> it defaults to the nvideo driver system
[13:04] <indus> Kapoor: try #ubuntu-in
[13:04] <ikonia> Kapoor: try #ubuntu-in
[13:05] <saurav> No such good download  manager in Ubuntu !!!! like "internet download manager " found in Windows !! This is SERIOUS !!
[13:05] <stefg> jakerue: get a terminal and a root shell by 'sudo -i
[13:05] <helloworld245> saurav: try axel
[13:05] <indus> saurav: try firefox addon downthemall
[13:05] <hermdog> helloworld245:and all the settings in that seem to be 100%
[13:05] <tradiuz> So, does anyone here have experience with the Sheevaplug Devkit?
[13:05] <saurav> I am now using axel .
[13:05] <jakerue> stefg: done
[13:05] <indus> saurav: did you try d4x?
[13:05] <SnowKitty> my hovercraft is full of eels
[13:06] <saurav> No
[13:06] <stefg> jakerue: cd /media/disk
[13:06] <JoshDreamland> Gerry_: I'm not sure. It's odd that is still boots, and just randomly stops working.
[13:06] <jakerue> stefg: k
[13:07] <kyja> gergion general Tux says, "Playing with eels may increase risk of health related problems"
[13:07] <JoshDreamland> The oddest case previous to this one I've seen is totally losing a superblock, rendering the hard drive useless
[13:07] <JoshDreamland> Until you restored it from backup, of course
[13:07] <SnowKitty> can anyone help me figure out how to compile something?
[13:07] <stefg> jakerue: mount --bind /proc proc && mount --bind /dev dev
[13:07] <tradiuz> SnowKitty -  ./configure && make && sudo make install
[13:08] <tradiuz> for the most part
[13:08] <jakerue> stefg: k
[13:08] <hermdog> sweet jesus i got it!!
[13:08] <stefg> jakerue: now we do the actuel change root: chroot .
[13:09] <hermdog> helloworld245: i got it thank you!
[13:09] <brijith2> thanks
[13:09] <brijith2>  
[13:09] <jakerue> stefg: ok what am I doing next?  Is that a command?  It didn't like 'root chroot'
[13:10] <WilliamHerry> chroot is command
[13:10] <Jeffserrao> I have a strange problem with ubuntu 9.04 when i installed my nvidia drivers lost my network connection any ideas why?
[13:10] <hrab> Hello, could anyone tell me where the switch user thing in ubuntu9.04 has gone?    All I have is shut down, restart or log off.
[13:10] <brijith2> !chroot
[13:11] <panopticon> hrab, have you actually added the "user switcher" applet?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> hrab:  ive noticed ifyou use kdm to login to Gnome, or Gdm to login to kdm. that thing can vanish..   and the applet may not appera back if you log back in the other way
[13:11] <WilliamHerry> just click the other name
[13:11] <hrab> Not on purpose no,
[13:11] <stefg> jakerue: you were having a prompt #/media/disk ... after a chroot . (notice the dot) you are root in the installed system and the prompt reads just / , right?
[13:11] <panopticon> there's a difference between that and the "shut down" applet
[13:11] <SnowKitty> hmm
[13:11] <brijith> hi
[13:11] <SnowKitty> i cant get this figured out >.<
[13:12] <jakerue> stefg: root@ubuntu:/media/disk# chroot.
[13:12] <jakerue> -bash: chroot.: command not found
[13:12] <gk1> You can get this figured out?
[13:12] <stefg> jakerue: with a space between chroot and .
[13:12] <nomad111> does anyone have any trouble playing fullscreen youtube vids with a multi-monitor setup in ubuntu
[13:13] <hrab> THanks , I'll go install it and see how it does
[13:13] <jakerue> stefg: ok now at 'root@ubuntu:/# '
[13:13] <nomad111> the video doesnt go fullscreen on my primary display
[13:13] <Jeffserrao> Need help with my LAN connection!!!!!!!
[13:13] <nomad111> its on the secondary and cut off a b it
[13:13] <stefg> jakerue: right, so you are now acting as root on the installed system. what is your username in the installed system ?
[13:14] <stefg> jakerue: cd /home , BTW
[13:14] <jakerue> stefg: I am root
[13:15] <SnowKitty> !makefile
[13:15] <SnowKitty> hmmm
[13:15] <stefg> jakerue: no, i mean what username have you set up for yourself in the installed system
[13:15] <SnowKitty> !compile
[13:15] <jakerue> stefg: jason
[13:15] <stefg> jakerue: so there is a dir jason in /home, right?
[13:16] <jakerue> stefg: yes
[13:16] <jakerue> stefg: actually doing an ls there is nothing in /home
[13:17] <hrab> Hrm, OK fast-user-switch applett is loaded in synaptic, added "User Switcher" to the panel at the top, it doesn't have a switch option.
[13:17] <prappl93> Every time I boot up the Palm OS setup thing comes up, how do I stop that from happening?
[13:17] <Jeffserrao> network connections lost when i installed my nvidia drivers
[13:17] <stefg> jakerue: ah right.... the chroot hasn't got sda5 mounted. you'll have to unmount it from the live-cd and mount it in the chroot by 'mount /home' first
[13:18] <JoshDreamland> Are there any workarounds to bug 374776?
[13:18] <JoshDreamland> Scratch that,
[13:19] <JoshDreamland> I have the wrong number after all
[13:19] <pshr_> .oO
[13:19] <pshr_> .oOo.
[13:20] <SnowKitty> i am lost dammit
[13:20] <jakerue> stefg: I can unmount media/disk-1 but not media/disk ...an application preventing it from being unmounted
[13:20] <SnowKitty> i have an SRC folder after unpacking the archive
[13:20] <SnowKitty> and inside is a makefile, some.bat and other files and some folders
[13:20] <saurav> D4X is working ... now i am trying to download youtube video
[13:21] <prappl93> How do I keep the Palm OS Manager setup thing from loading when my system starts up
[13:21] <stefg> jakerue: that's right. we are chrooted into /media/disk (aka sda1), so only sda5 can and needs to be unmounted
[13:21] <switchgirl> how to send a password reminder for ekiga?
[13:21] <JoshDreamland> OH, that was just chatzilla's doing
[13:22] <JoshDreamland> Can ubotu look up bugs by ID?
[13:22] <stefg> jakerue: so eject disk-1 from the Live CD environment and 'mount /home' in your chrooted terminal
[13:22] <switchgirl> !ekiga
[13:22] <demon__> hallo
[13:22] <JoshDreamland> !bug 374776
[13:22] <switchgirl> !ekiga password-reminder
[13:22] <JoshDreamland> XD
[13:22] <demon__> could ya help me with webcam under guest XP for yahoo messenger with VBOX 3.0 ?
[13:23] <JoshDreamland> This afflicts me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/374776
[13:23] <jakerue> stefg: root@ubuntu:/# mount /home
[13:23] <jakerue> mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/042b0e1b-d64c-40f4-bbd8-e9e15362625e does not exist
[13:23] <jbeitler> switchgirl: https://www.ekiga.net/index.php?page=chpass
[13:23] <JoshDreamland> Is there anything I can do?
[13:24] <natrixnatrix89> Hi. What is the name of the program in xfce analog to gnome-panel in gnome?
[13:24] <stefg> jakerue: i see... stupid. make it 'mount /dev/sda5 /home'
[13:24] <jakerue> stefg: ok done
[13:24] <helloworld245> natrixnatrix89: try xfce4-panel
[13:24] <natrixnatrix89> thanks
[13:24] <JoshDreamland> And why does my numpad double as a mouse now? I USE THAT <_<"
[13:24] <stefg> jakerue: so if you ls now you see the jason dir in /home ?
[13:25] <jakerue> stefg: I do :)
[13:25] <stefg> jakerue: ok, now 'chmod -R jason:jason /home/jason'
[13:26] <stefg> jakerue: sorry that is chown -R jason:jason /home/jason
[13:26] <jakerue> stefg: dropped to a promt
[13:27] <jimdog> Anyone know anything about how to get a device driver to recognise a usb device on insert? the lsusb output gives an incorrect id and so the driver isn being linked to the device. Itś a cypress cy7c65xxx microcontroller and has a kernel driver, but it won associate to read and write. May be something to do with the HAL?
[13:27] <switchgirl> jbeitler: thats no good i forgot it
[13:27] <jakerue> stefg: exit, quit doesn't work
[13:27] <switchgirl> \i forgot it and that page needs you toknow the password to change it
[13:27] <jbeitler> switchgirl: there is a Forgot Link at the top of the page
[13:27] <JoshDreamland> Fixed numpad. Scroll wheel still sucks. I give up.
[13:27] <stefg> jakerue: didin't you get an error when trying to chmod instead of chown ?
[13:27] <jimdog> sorry thats a cy7c63xx
[13:28] <jakerue> stefg: no, it just dropped to a >
[13:28] <switchgirl> jbeitler:  sometimes i wonder about my sanity    thanks for pointing that out
[13:28] <jakerue> stefg: ah sorry yes I did get an error...then it dropped to >
[13:28] <jbeitler> switchgirl: no problem
[13:29] <stefg> jakerue: press ctrl-d ... do you get back from the chroot?
[13:29] <jakerue> stefg: I did.  Ran the chown -R jason:jason /home/jason
[13:30] <stefg> jakerue: frominside the chroot ?
[13:30] <Steil> hey guys what happened to gaybuntu?the website does not work anymore
[13:30] <bazhang> !ot | Steil
[13:31] <jakerue> stefg: I want to run root@ubuntu:/# chown -R jason:jason /home/jason  .......right?
[13:32] <stefg> jakerue: so where are you now in the root terminal? still in the chroot, or already back to Live CD environment?
[13:32] <jakerue> stefg:  my prompt read 'root@ubuntu:/#'
[13:34] <stefg> jakerue: ok. ctrl-d one more time. Did the terminal close, or did only the prompt change?
[13:34] <jakerue> stefg: Ctrl+D results in root@ubuntu:/# exit
[13:34] <jakerue> root@ubuntu:/media/disk#
[13:35] <stefg> jakerue: alright, so you were still chrooted when running the chown command. good. time for another reboot, i guess
[13:36] <khamael> is there program for playing mp3s backwards?
[13:36] <jakerue> stefg: take a look at the madness http://paste.ubuntu.com/282958/
[13:37] <stefg> jakerue: except from the errors due to the wrong command that is ok...
[13:37] <Guest23508> hello folks
[13:38] <jakerue> stefg: I am getting flack for going to eat dinner....reboot I go and hope it works.  If you don't hear back from me it failed and I will just format the whole works.  Thanks for all the help, you have gone above and beyond
[13:38] <puffinman> anyone know how long till the karmic beta is due?
[13:39] <stefg> jakerue: hope you learned something from it
[13:39] <bazhang> puffinman, #ubuntu+1 for karmic discussion; should be any day now
[13:39] <puffinman> didn't they say OCt 1, though?
[13:39] <jbeitler> puffinman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> puffinman:  it will be released when its released..  there is no set TIME on the 1st..
[13:40] <Pici> puffinman : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[13:40] <puffinman> ok, np
[13:40] <preetam> hello can anyone help me ..my x-server is not getting restarted on pressing the key Alt+Ctrl+Backspace in ubuntu 9.04
[13:41] <bazhang> !dontzap | preetam
[13:42] <system404> intel 82945G/GZ graphics card cant get higher resolution than 800x600 on jaunty anyone any ideas
[13:43] <cristi_an> excuse my ignorance...but why 64 bit ubuntu 9.04 partitioner behaves strange ? is that a known bug ?
[13:43] <strange> hey guys, when i run "iwconfig" it just stalls any suggestions?
[13:43] <preetam> how to install dontzap from synaptic manager
[13:43] <bluebaron__> anyone know of a music player that can be controlled remotely and locally at the same time?
[13:44] <system404> Intel 82945G/GZ graphics card cant get higher resolution than 800x600 on jaunty anyone any ideas
[13:44] <Halitech> !intel | system404
[13:45] <system404> halitech i know ubuntu has issues with intel integrated graphics cards just wanted to know if anyone knows a workaround
[13:45] <Halitech> cristi_an, what do you mean by strange?
[13:45] <Halitech> system404, there should be info in the second link on how to fix it
[13:46] <cristi_an> Halitech: strange means i have a 320 GB hdd and when i try to partition that i just can't create extended partition
[13:46] <cristi_an> Halitech: sda1 sda2 are reserved for windows as primary
[13:47] <cristi_an> Halitech: i will install vista later
[13:47] <frogzoo> cristi_an: probly update your bios
[13:47] <hattonr> can anyone tell me how to stop terminal server client from trying to reconnect every 30 seconds?
[13:47] <Halitech> cristi_an, how many primary partitions have you got so far? and are you trying to create the extended partition inside a primary partition?
[13:48] <cristi_an> Halitech: i have only 2
[13:48] <cristi_an> for windows i want to reserve them
[13:48] <cristi_an> Halitech: then i want a primary sda3 for /
[13:48] <Halitech> cristi_an, you can't create an extended partition outside a primary partition
[13:49] <hbos> Hi guys, when will 9.10 beta be available to download?
[13:49] <indus> hbos: 3 october
[13:49] <Halitech> hbos, when they get it ready to download
[13:49] <Amaranth> hbos: Try again in about 12 hours
[13:49] <hbos> oh darn I was hoping today :P
[13:49] <indus> Amaranth: its out ?
[13:50] <Amaranth> indus: no...
[13:50] <indus> Amaranth: also hello :)
[13:50] <Gekz> Hi. I'm on Mac OS X right now and woudl like to convert the alternate iso into a usb image so I can install it on my eeepc. Is this possible?
[13:50] <vigo> hattonr: Is it the tsclient?
[13:50] <helloworld245> Gekz: a software called unetbootin
[13:50] <Amaranth> Gekz: nope, only from windows or linux
[13:50] <incentifit> I've got a samba share at 192.168.0.2/sambashare.  I can login using Windows or Mac and then copy files to and from that share.  I need to write a script to do this or cp from the terminal.  Can someone get me started?  I'm not sure what I need to even search for... login at command line?
[13:50] <stunts513> anyone wanna help me with my xorg config, im on such an old computer that its using like a default driver or sumthn, cant get papst 800x600
[13:50] <Gekz> Amaranth: how uncouth.
[13:50] <Amaranth> Gekz: You could burn the iso to disc and boot your mac with it then use that
[13:51] <Amaranth> use that to make the USB stick, I mean
[13:51] <Halitech> stunts513, what video card?
[13:51] <Gekz> Amaranth: it lacks a dvd drive
[13:51] <Guest87434> When will 9.10 beta be out?
[13:51] <miha> stunt: might be old less PnP monitor as well?
[13:51] <stunts513> chips and tech f69000
[13:51] <helloworld245> Guest87434: 29th oct
[13:51] <stunts513> im on a laptop
[13:51] <Amaranth> Gekz: You have a macbook air?
[13:51] <Gekz> Amaranth: evidently
[13:51] <Halitech> stunts513, are you sure it will do beyond 800x600?
[13:51] <stunts513> yes
[13:51] <stunts513> i run windos dual boot
[13:52] <wrapster> how do i use sftp to transfer files over to my machine form a remote host...
[13:52] <Halitech> stunts513, there may not be a driver for it, what does lspci show for a video card?
[13:52] <stunts513> uh lemme check
[13:53] <wrapster> im familiar with scp
[13:53] <vigo> hattonr: Or is it the FreeNX?
[13:53] <llutz> wrapster: sftp usr@host  and then with all those ftp-commands (man sftp)
[13:53] <Amaranth> Gekz: So what you really have is a hackintosh on an eeepc
[13:53] <Amaranth> Gekz: you'll need a different computer to put the iso on a usb stick
[13:53] <Gekz> Amaranth: ;)
[13:53] <stunts513>  VGA compatible controller: Chips and Technologies F69000 HiQVideo (rev 64)
[13:53] <Gekz> Amaranth: yeah but i dont want to get up and walk to my desktop
[13:53] <Gekz> it's like... 3 metres away :<
[13:54] <Amaranth> stunts513: I'll be surprised if you get vesa working with that
[13:54] <Amaranth> stunts513: You're certainly not going to get any 2D or 3D acceleration
[13:54] <hrab> dangit.   I can't figure out how to switch users without logging out
[13:54] <Amaranth> hrab: click on your name in the top right and it should have a list of users
[13:55] <Amaranth> hrab: clicking on one of those doesn't log you out
[13:55] <hrab> The only one I see is gest session.
[13:55] <hrab> guest session rather.
[13:56] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[13:57] <stunts513> i know
[13:57] <stunts513> but this is rediculous
[13:57] <stunts513> i cant get over 800x600 and it doesnt stretch
[13:57] <wrapster> sftp>put something_solaris-i386.deb .
[13:57] <wrapster> File "something.deb" not found. ... but i am in that remote machine... how is it possible.. the ftp man page lists put to be used...
[13:58] <Amaranth> stunts513: That's the best you're going to get, there is no driver for that hardware
[13:58] <Amaranth> stunts513: I haven't even heard of any hardware from those guys since 1998 or so
[13:58] <stunts513> i cant manually add lines to the xorg though?
[13:58] <llutz> wrapster: does something.... exist in lpwd?
[13:58] <Zzeiss> stunts513: What does your xorg log say?
[13:58] <stunts513> the file or a log?
[13:58] <wrapster> llutz: yes
[13:59] <Amaranth> stunts513: No, you're using the vesa driver so it is limited to vesa standard resolutions (up to 1024x768, no widescreen)
[13:59] <wrapster> it lists out my local dir from where i ran the sftp command
[13:59] <Halitech> stunts513, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[13:59] <Zzeiss> stunts513: I've had situations where the auto-probed monitor values were very "conservative" in terms of horiz and vert speeds; putting in a device line to tell it "oh, you can go faster/slower" has often gotten me up to full native resolution.
[13:59] <Amaranth> Zzeiss: But he has no driver for his video card
[13:59] <Halitech> stunts513, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:00] <hrab> AH. well that is kinda convoluted, but It works.    Anyone tell me why how to get my xfce session moved over to f8 from f10?
[14:00] <Zzeiss> Amaranth: Actually, this was using the VESA mode, which works amazingly well for what it is.
[14:00] <cristi_an> Halitech: how can i create an extended partition then ? since i have primary and logical option only in this tool ?
[14:00] <Amaranth> Zzeiss: I haven't seen vesa get a widescreen resolution :P
[14:00] <Zzeiss> stunts513: Does your xorg.conf have a 'Section "Monitor"' block in it?
[14:00] <stunts513> i no it does
[14:00] <stunts513> u be on later, cause i gotta goto school?
[14:01] <Halitech> cristi_an, logical and extended are the same thing, just different names
[14:01] <Zzeiss> Amaranth: I'm looking at it right now. Macbook Pro, running full 1280x800 native.  With VESA driver, as the binary blob driver does not work on an MBP as far as I can tell.
[14:01] <Amaranth> Zzeiss: Even then I'm guessing he has some weird laptop so running a desktop without any kind of acceleration is hell on the battery
[14:01] <Zzeiss> stunts513: Probably.  Go.  Learn.  Consume.  Marry and reproduce.
[14:01] <stunts513> only time i ever get decent tecch support is in morning, and rthen i have togoto school so yea..
[14:01] <stunts513> lol
[14:01] <stunts513> k
[14:01] <stunts513> l8r
[14:02] <grouse> Hey guys, having trouble changing permissions for a load of files (from cli). I ran the command chmod -R 775, but this doesn't seem to have propogated to all my files (I do own all of them)
[14:02] <grouse> have I missed something out?
[14:02] <wrapster> llutz: ok what i had to use was reget..
[14:02] <Zzeiss> Amaranth: Yeah.  But somewhat weak battery life beats the heck out of being stuck in Windows.  :)
[14:02] <Amaranth> Zzeiss: Your MBP won't run with the 185 driver?
[14:02] <wrapster> but sftp says invalid command if i use that.
[14:02] <ActionParsnip1> grouse: you need to specify the target folder
[14:03] <Zzeiss> Amaranth: Nope.  It crashes it hard.  Yes, I've tried; I want compiz.  But no joy.
[14:03] <drew212> can anyone point me to where the application launchers are? I want to subscribe a feed to mozilla thunderbird but i dont know where to point the RSS to...
[14:03] <ActionParsnip1> grouse, do you really want 5 in the everybody group?
[14:03] <Amaranth> Zzeiss: hmm, try again with karmic? :) beta out today
[14:03] <grouse> actionparsnip!, thanks - I knew it was something simple
[14:03] <Amaranth> Zzeiss: I'm glad someone actually wants compiz. Usually people are telling me why they turned it off :P
[14:03] <Zzeiss> Amaranth: Karmic?  Nice idea, but this machine is "production".
[14:04] <Zzeiss> Amaranth:  I'm an eye-candy diabetic.  :)
[14:04] <drew212> anyone able to locate the application launchers on the filesystem for me? im having trouble
[14:04] <Zzeiss> Besides, I would much prefer to not run closed source.  I will make exceptions for things like the WiFi card, where frakking with the blob can cause major interference with other folks.
[14:05] <Amaranth> Zzeiss: Should have gotten a different laptop then :P
[14:05] <Amaranth> Zzeiss: blobtastic, that one is
[14:05] <Zzeiss> Amaranth: That's why I hang out on Nouveau and try to help there, to get rid of the binary blob.  Sadly, I am (*so*) far behind those guys that the most I can offer is encouragement.
[14:05] <ngnp> This page http://start.ubuntu.com/9.04/ is not rendered ok in FF (encoding?) on my laptop ... can I fix this? When I disable cache the page is ok.
[14:05] <Amaranth> Zzeiss: heh, me too
[14:05] <drew212> anyone able to help me find stuff on the ubuntu filesystem quick?
[14:06] <Amaranth> ngnp: that would mean your cache is bad, clear it out
[14:06] <Amaranth> drew212: find what?
[14:06]  * ngnp trying
[14:06] <drew212> im trying to point an RSS to thunderbird, it says choose application, but i dont know where thunderbird is located... or any applications for that matter
[14:06] <Amaranth> drew212: oh, they're all in /usr/bin/
[14:07] <xukun> drew212, locate thunderbird
[14:07] <Halitech> drew212, could be /usr/bin or /bin
[14:07] <ngnp> Amaranth: tnx ... it's fixed :)
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: try: which thunderbord
[14:07] <xukun> drew212, you can do that for every program
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: you'll most likely find its /usr/bin/thunderbird
[14:08] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: i click subscribe now, but it wont work...
[14:08] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: i dont use rss, sorry man
[14:08] <hattonr> vigo, sorry about missing your replies, got caught up in maintenance :-)
[14:08] <aaron11> Helo, I know there are less people in here but, Does anyone know when the countdown banners are showing up? I REALY cant wait for Karmic Koala to come! :S :S
[14:08] <Pici> aaron11 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[14:09] <vigo> hattonr: NP, did you see the questions I posted?
[14:09] <hattonr> vigo, I am connecting to a W2003 server using terminal server client in Ubuntu, not NX
[14:09] <system404> Actionparsnip: i got back on to my install any other ideas on getting my resolution above 800x600 ive tried updating the kernal as advised by ubuntu forums but to no avail
[14:10] <Amaranth> !fixres
[14:11] <system404> Amaranth: thats one of the things i first tried done nothing
[14:11] <vigo> hattonr: Ok, I found two links, I will post the one that may address that, is it the tsclient2?
[14:11] <hattonr> vigo, I think so.
[14:12] <charlespeng_> does anyone have got a wave invite?
[14:12] <DJones> !ot | charlespeng_
[14:12] <hattonr> vigo, yes, tsclient
[14:12] <vigo> hattonr: This may help: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/9hdr1/debian_canonical_stop_the_auto_reconnect_on/
[14:12] <ActionParsnip1> vigo: tried rdesktop ?
[14:12] <hattonr> vigo, thanks, I'll give it a read
[14:13] <charlespeng_> anyone has got a wave invite?
[14:13] <StupidWeasel> wave wave wave wave. Urgh X_X
[14:13] <vigo> ActionParsnip1: Not me, or wait, I am uncertain if I did. I did once.
[14:13] <indus> charlespeng_: off topic :)
[14:13] <charlespeng_> can anyone send me a wave invite to linux.usrs@gmail.com ?
[14:13] <cetanhota> !ot | charlespeng_
[14:14] <DJones> charlespeng_: That is not an ubuntu support question, please don't ask it here
[14:14] <charlespeng_> sorry,
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> charlespeng_: this is ubuntu support. discussions for wave invites are not for here and should be directed to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:14] <StupidWeasel> This is gmail & analytics all over again o.o
[14:14] <charlespeng_> DJones: I
[14:14] <indus> #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:14] <indus> :) :!
[14:15] <StupidWeasel> Oh whilst I remember folks, this is something I've been meaning to ask, but is it possible to add non standard locations to the clock?
[14:16] <StupidWeasel> Kinda new to Gnome. Closest place I have to home is London, which is not all that close as far as weather is concerned.
[14:16] <vigo> StupidWeasel: Yes, it is, sort of.
[14:17] <jpds> StupidWeasel: For weather, no, I don't think so.
[14:17] <StupidWeasel> Ahh, that's a shame.
[14:17] <vigo> StupidWeasel: Just choose the TZ or UDT that applies, it is for server and updates to synchronize.
[14:17] <jpds> vigo: That's not for weather info.
[14:18] <jpds> StupidWeasel: But you can use a cool service like http://www.yr.no/english/1.2025949 for weather.
[14:18] <|denis||> !googlefight gentoo ubuntu
[14:18] <Rorty> hi
[14:19] <StupidWeasel> Not a big deal though, just would be nice. I have it on my media center anyway ;3
[14:19] <drew212> anyone have an experience with thunderbird? I have my feeds showing, but it wont show any pictures, or HTML emails for that matter
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: you need to allow them.
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: i'll get a link
[14:20] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: how do i do that?
[14:20] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: i've looked through all the settings under preferences but i cant find anything
[14:20] <Keiya> Hmm... is there a mail client that'll run in the messaging menu after I kill its last window?
[14:20] <JonathanEllis1> I have just installed soundconverter but I need to install a converter for wma. Any idea which package I need?
[14:21] <frogzoo> Keiya: evolution?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: Tools>>Options>>Privacy
[14:22] <syslq78> My key "two" is not working, I changed keyboards. Any ideas?
[14:22] <drew212> thats for windows...
[14:22] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: Default is Block loading of Images in email, with a second box to allow images from people in your personal address book.  Unchecking the first box will  allow all images.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip1> bah
[14:22] <syslq78> Only in gnome
[14:23] <Keiya> frogzoo: Quits when I kill its last menu :/
[14:23] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: under Edit>prefernces>privacy i check every tab and there is nothing about blocking HTML...
[14:23] <Keiya> er
[14:23] <JonathanEllis1> Sorry. I should be more precise. I have just installed soundconverter but I need a decoder for wma files. Any idea which package I need?
[14:23] <Keiya> s/menu/window/
[14:23] <system404> need help with intel card cant get above 800x600 res
[14:23] <Halitech> !intel | system404 second link should help
[14:24] <frogzoo> Keiya: put evolution notifier in your startup apps?
[14:24] <system404> Halitech: i tried all that but it didnt help still cant get above 800x600
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: View -> Message Body As -> and select Original HTML.
[14:24] <system404> how do i see what kernals are installed and which kernal im running incase its that
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: http://community.contractwebdevelopment.com/images-missing-thunderbird
[14:24] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: thank you!
[14:25] <system404> ive installed the new kernal but maybe it aint running it
[14:25] <frogzoo> Keiya: "sh -c "sleep 30; exec /usr/lib/evolution/2.26/evolution-alarm-notify"
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> system404: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[14:25] <system404> how to edit out the old kernal from selection
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> system404: you can uninstall old unused kernels to harvest ~100Mb per kernel
[14:25] <system404> how to uninstall old kernal
[14:26] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: now i get a bunch of broken images, FML =P
[14:26]  * Keiya Fs drew's life.
[14:26] <Lutoma> hehe :D
[14:26] <juro> hi, I am converting a Vista laptop to Ubuntu (NO! dual installation) and would like to make a complete copy of the current harddrive content for backup reasons - what is the best way to do this?
[14:26] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:26] <Keiya> (I hate that phrase. This is my rebellion.)
[14:27] <grouse> what the fudge was that
[14:27] <Russus> Hello
[14:27] <ActionParsnip1> weeee
[14:27] <Pici> !netsplit
[14:27] <Keiya> Thar she blows! >_>
[14:27] <grouse> sawesome
[14:28] <system404> how to edit the kernal selection screen to edit out old kernal from selection
[14:28] <wakeupscreamin> loool
[14:28] <joaopinto> system404, better remove them from the packae list
[14:28] <system404> i just want to remove from selection first if im happy with results ill uninstall it
[14:29] <disik> hello, how to disable font anti-aliasing in opera and mozilla? i made it for the system but opera still uses smooth fonts
[14:29] <Madsy> syslq78: The content under /boot/grub/grub.lst. But yeah, you should rather uninstall the kernel image package.
[14:29] <Madsy> system404*
[14:29] <acr0nym> this google wave fuss is just too much lol
[14:29] <frogzoo> google wave?
[14:29] <Madsy> Bah..
[14:29] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> system404:  system404: like any other package: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-<numbers here>
[14:29] <Madsy> system404: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> system404: if you uninstall the package it will be removed from grub
[14:30] <nimrod|king> Is there a good reason why Ubuntu doesn't use a frame buffer console by default?
[14:31] <system404> Actionparsnip: i only want it removed from grub for now once ive done that if im happy with results ill uninstall the package
[14:31] <juro> hi, I am converting a Vista laptop to Ubuntu (NO! dual installation) and would like to make a complete copy of the current harddrive content for backup reasons - what is the best way to do this?
[14:31] <Blizzerand> http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu910finalartwork-large_002.jpg
[14:31] <Madsy> system404: I just gave you an answer.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> system404: fair point, simply remove or comment out the lines in menu.list like madsy says
[14:31] <Blizzerand> The background isn't good though
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> juro: partimage
[14:32] <disik> juro: acronis true image
[14:32] <Pici> Blizzerand: Please keep it on topic, Karmic support is in #ubuntu+1
[14:32] <Halitech> juro, clonezilla
[14:32] <llutz> Blizzerand: change it
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> juro: you can boot to live CD and spit a compressed image of the internal drive to an external storage
[14:33] <Rorty> anyone has experience setting up a bluetooth connection to an (old) stereo? I would like to use this http://bit.ly/lyLA3
[14:33] <Blizzerand> llutz > according to beta , that is supposed to be the default desktop background for Karmic
[14:33] <Keiya> Blizzerand: Eeewww.
[14:34] <Keiya> Tone down the yellow just a bit, plz.
[14:34] <nimrod|king> In other words, is it 'safe' to activate fb in grub?
[14:34] <Madsy> nimrod|king: yes
[14:34] <Keiya> Anyway, Gnome lets you change it, so not a big deal.
[14:34] <Keiya> apollo: Bald bird!
[14:34] <llutz> Blizzerand: who cares, feel free to install a distro with a background you like.
[14:34] <Blizzerand> Keiya : But I wish they had better desktop background though
[14:34] <system404> sudo: /boot/grub/menu.lst: command not found
[14:34] <Madsy> nimrod|king: "vga=ask" as a kernel parameter
[14:35] <Keiya> system404: sudoedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:35] <Blizzerand> llutz : lol , I never use Ubuntu to begin with
[14:35] <system404> ah cheers
[14:35] <nimrod|king> Madsy: Thanks
[14:35] <te> i just ran grub-install on /dev/sda and now can't boot windows
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> nimrod|king: what does fb in grub achieve?
[14:36] <te> can someone help?
[14:36] <Halitech> system404, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:36] <nimrod|king> ActionParsnip: High-Res virtual consoles :)
[14:36] <shoss> how is it possible that some programs (skype and pidgin) are still loaded on login even after I unchecked them from the gnome-session-properties?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> nimrod|king: i see
[14:36] <Halitech> system404, or gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:36] <nimrod|king> ActionParsnip: Also can display images and even video & games.
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> nimrod|king: games during boot do you mean?
[14:37] <Halitech> shoss, check the preferences of each program, might be in there
[14:37] <te> can someone help me boot windows?
[14:37] <te> title         Windows XP
[14:37] <te> root          (hd0,3)
[14:37] <te> makeactive
[14:37] <system404> cheers im done editing gna restart and hope for the best fingers crossed guys lol
[14:37] <te> chainloader   +1
[14:37] <cheslyn> hi guys , anyone can u use command without rebooting
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> te: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst   and you will see a section relating to windows, you need to make sure this is correct
[14:37] <Codenut> I am trying to replace/edit my sources.list file no matter how I attack it, I cannot do it. How do I do this?
[14:37] <te> ActionParsnip: sda3 is my windows partition
[14:37] <shoss> Halitech: I did, there's no option to check/uncheck start on login...
[14:38] <juro> ActionParsnip, ok, I'll try that
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> te: Is windows installed on sda4?
[14:38] <te> no sda3
[14:38] <grouse> codenut, sudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> te: grub partition numbers start at 0, not 1
[14:38] <te> so it's actually hd0,2
[14:38] <te> with chainload +1
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> te: yes
[14:38] <te> because when i did that
[14:38] <te> it just rebooted the whole system
[14:38] <FloodBot3> te: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <nimrod|king> ActionParsnip: No, in virtual consoles (eg press CTRL-ALT-Fn where n = 1 to 6)
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> te: you can live edit the grub line using e to edit the entry, once you know what works, boot to linux and change the file so the boot is correct
[14:39] <te> yeah ActionParsnip -- i did that
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> nimrod|king: i'll check it out, is it any video type?
[14:39] <te> i tried every hd0,x combination
[14:39] <te> none of them work.
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> te: hmmm, you could reinstate the windows boot loader, then install grub again to make it pickup the boot
[14:40] <te> ActionParsnip: i installed to /dev/sda
[14:40] <te> is that right?
[14:40] <te> grub-install /dev/sda
[14:40] <nimrod|king> ActionParsnip: Invoke: apt-cache search framebuffer | less
[14:40] <te> it's a SATA drive, and gparted shows it as sda
[14:41] <Halitech> shoss, not sure why, check with gconf-editor and see if its in there
[14:42] <nimrod|king> ActionParsnip: The media player needs to support framebuffer output - eg mplayer or vlc
[14:42] <Rorty> anyone has experience setting up a bluetooth connection to an (old) stereo? is ubuntu capable of sending audio of bluetooth to a reciever effortlessy?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> nimrod|king: just read the wiki, sounds cool. Thanks
[14:42] <te> ActionParsnip: nothing?
[14:42] <te> do i install to sda or hda
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> nimrod|king: mplayer is godly
[14:42] <shoss> Halitech: you don't happen to know where in the gconf-editor i configure this? because I've been looking...
[14:43] <system404> nope still not gettin above 800x600 res
[14:43] <Halitech> shoss, no I don't
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> te: i dont dual boot as i have no requirement for windows but thats the crux of a dual boot
[14:43] <cheslyn> guys how do i change my kernel image ?
[14:43] <nimrod|king> Rorty: Only the latest bluetooth spec supports stereo soun AFAIK so old tech will not cut it :(
[14:44] <system404> will 945resolution package help me with my res problems
[14:44] <Damocles_> cheslyn: As in the default selected at boot? Or adding a new one?
[14:44] <Rorty> nimrod|king, what if i use a bluetooth audio reviever? such as http://www.airlive.com/product/product_3.jsp?pdid=PD1217410627346
[14:45] <cheslyn> damocles: how can i add a new one
[14:46] <nimrod|king> Rorty: That page says it supports spec v1.2
[14:46] <system404> X.org xf86-video-intel driver module. is installed but still no res above 800x600
[14:46] <Damocles_> cheslyn: Is this one you compile yourself, or one from a package?
[14:47] <Rorty> nimrod|king, so it ´should´ work right?
[14:47] <cheslyn> damocles: no from a package
[14:47] <nimrod|king> Rorty: You need Version 2.0 + EDR for stereo sound
[14:48] <Rorty> nimrod|king, aj... ok thnx, now I know what to look for
[14:48] <Damocles_> 'k - The package should install it for you so assuming it hasn't, try running the command "sudo update-grub" in a terminal
[14:48] <nimrod|king> Rorty: Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth for more info...
[14:48] <Rorty> thnx nimrod|king
[14:49] <nimrod|king> Rorty: np
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> shoss: what is the output of: file ~/.gnome2/sessions
[14:49] <system404> X.org xf86-video-intel driver module. is installed but still no res above 800x600
[14:49] <Damocles_> cheslyn: After running, it should print out 'Found kernel: ...' a load of times. If the new kernel is one of those, all is well and you can reboot into your new kernel
[14:49] <Rorty> nimrod|king, hmmm only in Japan... http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-17438-LBT-AR200C2:%20%20Logitec%20Japan%27s%20New%20Bluetooth%20Audio%20Receiver.html
[14:50] <shoss> ActionParsnip: $  file ~/.gnome2/sessions
[14:50] <shoss> /home/slas/.gnome2/sessions: ERROR: cannot open `/home/slas/.gnome2/sessions' (No such file or directory)
[14:50] <wilbefast> hello - could somebody help me configure my xorg.conf file?
[14:51] <u-foka> wilbefast, what do you want to configure within xorg, what version of ubuntu you using?
[14:51] <juro> ActionParsnip, how do I spit a compressed image to an external harddrive? using tar or rsync?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> shoss: i saw something like this in launchpad about mysterious startup apps, ended up having to delete some file / folder (s) in gconf someplace
[14:52] <Rorty> another question: how can I fix that my firefox-3.5 is still called shiretoku ?
[14:52] <wilbefast> um
[14:52] <cheslyn> damocles: does ubuntu have alots of kernels that can b change
[14:52] <wilbefast> I'm using 9.04
[14:52] <wilbefast> jaunty
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> juro: you set the destination for the image and it will be put there as the compressed image is generate
[14:52] <wilbefast> and I need to add a new screen mode
[14:52] <shoss> ActionParsnip: thank you
[14:52] <vigo> wilbefast: That is #ubuntu+1
[14:53] <Damocles_> cheslyn: not a huge number in the default repositories. AFAIK, Ubuntu Studio has their own one and maybe there are a few others. Generally, though, these days the defaul one should be fine for 99.9% of people.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> shoss: you could save a session, then delete it
[14:53] <juro> ActionParsnip, using what? sorry for being such a noob
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> juro: partimage
[14:53] <shoss> ActionParsnip: what do you mean, how do i do that?
[14:53] <vigo> wilbefast: My apologies, this is the right channel.
[14:53] <juro> ActionParsnip, thx
[14:53] <g_> how do i determine the current connections my computer is making and receiving?
[14:53] <wilbefast> okay
[14:54] <grawity> g_: netstat -et
[14:54] <u-foka> wilbefast, screen mode = a new resolution??
[14:54] <Damocles_> g_: ^- in a terminal
[14:54] <g_> ahh thanks
[14:54] <wilbefast> um yes
[14:54] <grawity> g_: If you also want to see the process names, sudo netstat -etp
[14:54] <wilbefast> mine is 1280x1024
[14:54] <cheslyn> damocles: thanks , tell me can i apt-getting without rebooting
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> shoss: run the apps that start at logon, then head into the startup items manager and tell the system to remember the session, log off, log on, then go back in and untick the selection and have the apps closed, log off, log on
[14:54] <wilbefast> I need a mode that is 1024x768
[14:54] <grawity> g_: And to see "listening" (waiting) sockets (instead of established connections", -l instead of -e
[14:55] <nimrod|king> g_: You could also try iptraf
[14:55] <zeitsofa> hi @ all. i have a problem with setting up hplip/fax and "HP PSC 2410": if i try to use hp-sendfax the error "D/L error state=4" occurred. did anyone knows a solution to fix this?
[14:55] <u-foka> wilbefast, okay and your xorg.conf is nearly empty as original?
[14:55] <Damocles_> cheslyn: usually, but kernels are a special case and require a reboot.
[14:55] <wilbefast> u-foka: is this how I speak to you directly?
[14:55] <juro> ActionParsnip, when I run Ubuntu from the rom drive, partimage is not installed, can I install it to memory as well?
[14:55] <shoss> ActionParsnip: I'll try that, thank you
[14:55] <grawity> juro: Yes.
[14:55] <wilbefast> u-foka, I'll link it
[14:55] <juro> grawity, thx
[14:56] <wilbefast> u-foka, http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=53fabb3528868028b64026cfc0611236e04e75f6e8ebb871
[14:56] <cheslyn> damocles
[14:56] <wilbefast> there is no mode line at all
[14:56] <wilbefast> and I stuffed up my whole computer last time I tried adding one
[14:56] <g_> that's great thanks guys
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Damocles_: do you or did you play speedball2?
[14:56] <Damocles_> ActionParsnip: never AFACR :)
[14:56] <Damocles_> *AFAICR
[14:57] <wilbefast> u-foka, are you still there?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Damocles_: your name is one of the 2nd league teams
[14:57] <Keiya> Does anyone know of any good buildy-games to distract myself with? (Think Dwarf Fortress for the ideal, or The Sims, or Sim City going down the chain to less-awesome-but-still-good)
[14:57] <u-foka> wilbefast, well you need to add a display subsection under the screen section, i will write it and send you, a moment!
[14:57] <wilbefast> thank!
[14:57] <wilbefast> *s
[14:57] <cheslyn> damocles: but you can apt-get ? can you tell we open the command
[14:58] <Damocles_> ActionParsnip: Really? I have a far more famous namesake :)
[14:58] <wilbefast> Damocles sword :)
[14:58] <Rorty> keiya : Freeciv
[14:58] <Keiya> Rorty: Nar, not enough buildyness.
[14:59] <Rorty> Keiya, Open TTD
[14:59] <Damocles_> cheslyn: Something like "sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic"
[14:59] <strange> freedune
[14:59] <strange> dune 2 > *
[14:59] <u-foka> wilbefast, well here is "your" screen section :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/283004/
[14:59] <Keiya> Oooh, openttd! I'd forgoten about that!
[14:59] <Keiya> Yay, that'll distract me!
[15:00] <Damocles_> where "linux-image-generic" is replaced by any other kernel package you may want to install - for example, I *think* Ubuntu Studio uses 'linux-image-rt'
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Keiya: glob2
[15:00] <wilbefast> u-foka I see
[15:00] <u-foka> wilbefast, (i hope i typed correctly)
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> !games | Keiya
[15:00] <Damocles_> wilbefast: Indeed, I hang over people menacingly ;)
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Keiya: settlers runs well in dosbox
[15:00] <wilbefast> Damocles: sounds like fun
[15:01] <wilbefast> Keiya: BosWars? Globulation 2?
[15:01] <Rorty> strange u have a URL to freedune ?
[15:02] <jimmy_birer> hi im using ubuntu 6.06
[15:02] <wilbefast> u-foka I edit that in then?
[15:02] <Zzeiss> Damocles_: Yes.... Studio loads the linux-image-rt, but unless you *need* a realtime kernel, you're better off with the normal scheduler.  DAMHIK.
[15:02] <indus> !eol | jimmy_birer
[15:02] <cheslyn> damocles: where and how do i find it
[15:03] <Pici> indus: 6.06 is not end of life.
[15:03] <indus> Pici: dapper drake?
[15:03] <jimmy_birer> sorry
[15:03] <Damocles_> cheslyn: I found that one via the 'apt-cache search linux-image' command
[15:03] <jimmy_birer> i use 5.04
[15:03] <Pici> !6.06 | indus
[15:03] <jimmy_birer> oldest version
[15:03] <strange> http://dunelegacy.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[15:03] <Damocles_> cheslyn: But perhaps it would be better if you describe what problem you think needs a new kernel to solve it
[15:04] <Pici> jimmy_birer: 5.04 is no longer supported.
[15:04] <indus> Pici: ya ended
[15:04] <Damocles_> you might find an easier solution
[15:04] <jimmy_birer> i know
[15:04] <jimmy_birer> but i luv gtk 1
[15:04] <indus> Pici: server only now
[15:04] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  QUESTION: I'd like for my x server to get zapped when I hit ctrl-alt-backspace, but only with ctrl and alt on opposite sides of the keyboard.  How do I go about this?  (using external programs, like xbindkeys, are fine)
[15:04] <jimmy_birer> i installed all aps b4
[15:04] <jimmy_birer> and i now compile
[15:04] <Pici> jimmy_birer: Were you just announcing, or did you actually have a support question?
[15:04] <jimmy_birer> apps
[15:04] <jimmy_birer> Pici:im trolling
[15:04] <Pici> jimmy_birer: I see. Best to stop that then.
[15:05] <jimmy_birer> no
[15:05] <jimmy_birer> haha
[15:05] <wilbefast> u-foka : if I want multiple modes, what separator do I put between them?
[15:05] <jimmy_birer> austrians are niggers of europa
[15:05] <jimmy_birer> romanians too
[15:05] <indus> sigh
[15:05]  * genii slides jussi01 more coffee
[15:05] <jonaskoelker> jussi01: thanks :)
[15:06] <themod> hey guys and girls how can i get latest ubuntu to work on the 755/730 chipset  when it will not let me enter  pci-nomsi at boot prompt
[15:06] <themod> that was to be = lol
[15:06] <themod> and 750
[15:07] <themod> chipset
[15:07] <Rorty> can I fix that my firefox-3.5 is still called shiretoku ?
[15:07] <themod> if i play with anything on my boot up it kinda hangs there a long time or locks up
[15:08] <grawity> !ff35 | Rorty
[15:08] <grawity> Rorty: The link ubottu gave will explain why it's called Shiretoku.
[15:08] <grawity> Rorty: You might want to try Ubuntuzilla - it'll update Firefox to the newest version.
[15:08] <Pici> Rorty: Not until the next release of Ubuntu, then it will be rebranded properly.
[15:09] <grawity> Rorty: But Ubuntuzilla can break things a little... (has always worked fine for me.)
[15:09] <themod> any nice person please
[15:09] <theTroy> Error after deinstalling nvidia drivers : SDL initialisation error : Couldnt find matching GLX visual. Could someone help me please?
[15:09] <cheslyn> damocles: i have already done the kernel.i'm asking we do i go 2 open for command 2 do apt-get without rebooting
[15:10] <ubox> i tried to auto-upgrade to 9.04 from 8.1 and it broke lol
[15:10] <Rorty> pici , I suspected that I would haveta wait... 9.10 is coming this fall right?
[15:10] <ubox> back to 8.1 now :)
[15:10] <Rorty> !9.10
[15:10] <Pici> Rorty: At the end of October
[15:10] <alabd> Good day everyone , while hsfconfig this happened what is the problem ?http://paste.ubuntu.com/283019/
[15:11] <Rorty> Pici, can´t wait :) the screenshots seem promising
[15:11] <Arodon> hi, I'm considering buying an Asus EeePC 1101HA but am concerned about the quality of Poulsbo support (I know the driver has large proprietary pieces). Anybody have experience with this? Does the driver expose decent 3d acceleration like the card is supposed to support?
[15:12] <ubox> alabd: did you try saying yes to using the replacement drivers?
[15:12] <alabd> no ubox
[15:12] <themod> rorty>could you help can't get ubuntu to see hard drive on nvidia 730a chipset an if i try the pci=nomsi it locks up
[15:12] <indus> !eee
[15:12] <Damocles_> cheslyn: Ah, well you can't install a new kernel without rebooting. OTher than that, there is nothing special required when installing an ordinary non-kernel package with apt-get. You just don't need to reboot.
[15:12] <ubox> alabd: sorry, modules. i would try that. usually when there is an option selected by default it is good to try that first
[15:12] <indus> Arodon: do also check the link above
[15:13] <alabd> yes yes ubox
[15:13] <alabd> it is shown in that link
[15:13] <themod> you can install new kernel if you have reboot less thing in lol
[15:13] <themod> forget the name
[15:14] <ubox> alabd: was that the entire log file?
[15:14] <alabd> yes
[15:14] <system404> ok got my resolution sorted finally had to basicly rewrite the xorg.conf file but its done now woop
[15:14] <indus> beta is out 9.10
[15:14] <ubox> alabd: seems maybe the wrong directory or something is wrong with the config for the make.
[15:14] <Pici> indus: #ubuntu+1 for karmic, you know this.
[15:14] <system404> now on to the next problem pigeon wont sign into msn anyone else experiancing this
[15:14] <Ian_> the download is not available yet indus :)
[15:14] <indus> oops
[15:15] <indus> sorry
[15:15] <alabd> exactly what is the problem ?
[15:16] <ubox> system404: you need a different protocol for msn, something is up. i'll look for the link to download it
[15:16] <system404> thanks
[15:16] <cheslyn> damocles: thanks 4 that but how , where or what do i open to get there so that i can put a command or apt-getting
[15:16] <DeadmanIncJS> im trying to get some "widgets" on my desktop but gdesklets doesnt want to work for me :'(
[15:16] <leou> ok
[15:17] <system404> ubox: pigeon was connecting ok last night but today not happening
[15:17] <mamadpython1> hi
[15:17] <mamadpython1> How to Write Professional program you recommend?
[15:17] <DeadmanIncJS> hi mama
[15:17] <NeoCicak> hello......... how can i find out what driver my wireless is using? someone told me he is using 'atheros' driver... it doesnt sound familiar to me at all :(
[15:18] <themod> anyone know  why livecd hangs when trying to input cmd pci=nomsi for the nvidia 730a chipset to see sata drive?
[15:18] <Damocles_> cheslyn: Sorry, the Terminal. I *think* it us under Applications -> Utilities.
[15:18] <alabd> Good day everyone , while hsfconfig this happened what is the exact problem ?http://paste.ubuntu.com/283019/ Is there any free 56kb/s hsf modem driver for kernel 2.6.28
[15:18] <ubox> system404: ya that happened to me in my last install, working fine then one day no more. i had to download a package that added an msn protocol that supported things like video etc, so it was win win when i did
[15:18] <system404> ubox: gd stuff so what shall i do then
[15:18] <DeadmanIncJS> can somebody help me install some desklets so i can see weather, and other misc stuff?
[15:19] <kjelle> lo.
[15:19] <jonaskoelker> Hi al. I have a question...
[15:19] <system404> ive enabled visual effects wat do i do to now edit the effects i want
[15:19] <kjelle> I use Spotify on my Uubntu 9.04, but, it only plays for about 3-4 seconds when I start a song, and there is no sound. If i click on the progress bar of the sound, it plays again, but only for 3-4 seconds. I tried goole, no luck. Anyone have any experience in this?
[15:19] <jonaskoelker> I want my x server to get zapped when I press C-M-backspace, but only when holding Ctrl and Alt keys that are on opposite sides of the keyboard (i.e. Control_L + Alt_R or vice versa).  How do I go about this?
[15:20] <thiebaude> !ccsm | system404
[15:20] <mamadpython1> Aminzai, salam
[15:20] <ubox> system404: i'm just searching for that package name for you
[15:20] <ubox> system404: apt-get install msn-pecan
[15:21] <system404> ubox: cheers
[15:21] <ubox> system404: there will be a second msn choice in settings, use that one
[15:21] <ubox> system404: yw
[15:21] <system404> ubox: great thanks ill let u know how i get on
[15:21] <themod> ubox>could you help me ?
[15:21] <ubox> themod: sure, i'll try
[15:22] <themod> ok i got a nvidia 730/750 chipset and a usb keyboard  but i can't  put in the pci=nomsi in the boot prompt so it see my sata drive
[15:23] <themod> how do i get around this
[15:23] <xrfang> hello, I am familiar with ruby and many other languages, I have played with python a little, and now need a good python book, which is a light study book + quick reference... any suggestions? thanks!
[15:23] <ubox> why can't you add the pci=nomsi in?
[15:23] <themod> ubux> it kinda hangs there
[15:23] <ubox> hmmm
[15:24] <themod> ubox> i mean sorry
[15:24] <themod> ubox>on 9.04 it would lock up i'm trying 9.10 cause it was stated the nvidia chipset was supported
[15:25] <themod> or a fix was in
[15:25] <themod> 64bit
[15:25] <system404> ubox: The certificate chain presented by nexus.passport.com does not have a valid digital signature from the Certificate Authority from which it claims to have a signature.
[15:26] <system404> ubox: thats using the new plugin
[15:26] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  I have a question:  I'd like for pulseaudio to not die when I shut down my X server.  How do I go about this?
[15:26] <alabd> Have you used gizmo anytime ?Do you know how to call yahoo with it?
[15:27] <kkszysiu_> how to check what libraries are needed by application?
[15:27] <ubox> themod: i found this http://paste.ubuntu.com/283036/ maybe this solution will work for you?
[15:27] <grawity> kkszysiu_: ldd appfilename
[15:27] <jonaskoelker> When I 'dpkg-reconfigure -p low pulseaudio', I get " * PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions" twice.  There's no lower priority.  How do I configure pulseaudio as a system service?
[15:28] <ubox> system404: mine did that too the first time or two but it went away. i think i has to collect the cert from the server? i am going to install the plugin and try too, one set
[15:28] <Keiya> Hmm, Ubuntu doesn't seem to handle moving from AP to AP as well as Windows does.
[15:28] <themod> ubox>thanks  on the forum /post i saw it didn't tell me the other half
[15:28] <themod> noapic part as well
[15:29] <themod> i'll try with the  ps2 hooked up and go for it
[15:29] <ubox> themod: here is the original, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1026362.html
[15:29] <system404> ubox: any ideas
[15:29] <Keiya_> Ubuntu's wifi seems more... fragile than Windows's.
[15:29] <ubox> system404: just restarting pidgin
[15:30] <system404> ive restarted it
[15:30] <jonaskoelker> no help? :(
[15:30] <theTroy> Error after deinstalling nvidia drivers : SDL initialisation error : Couldnt find matching GLX visual. Could someone help me please? (when trying to run SDL game)
[15:30] <Keiya_> It doesn't like moving from one access point to another /at all/
[15:30] <len> Hi I'm using ubuntu on console and I need help to configure wireless device
[15:31] <munky> hi, is it possible installa latest version of network manager on hardy???
[15:31] <ubox> system404: i got the same message, click re-enable on the contact window at the bottom. then click accept when the popup show about the cert
[15:31] <len> lsusb shows
[15:31] <len> lsusb shows Bus 001 Device 003: ID 07d1:3c07 D-Link System Wireless G DWA-110 Adapter
[15:31] <jonaskoelker> munky: you can try :) ...
[15:32] <system404> ubox: theres no accept button
[15:32] <Whitor> Hi... if I start a program in a terminal with & at the end... if I close the window, the app closes. Is there anyway to /truely/ send an app into the background and untie it from the terminal it was launched from ?
[15:32] <len> but it dont create wlan0
[15:32] <jonaskoelker> Whitor: yes there is
[15:32] <LjL> Whitman nohup
[15:32] <jonaskoelker> Whitor: I'll see if I can figure it out (it works for me)
[15:32] <ubox> system404: try clicking ok and then re-enable again. it will get the cert after a try or two
[15:32] <jonaskoelker> Whitor: what shell do you use?  (bash, zsh, etc.)
[15:32] <Whitor> jonaskoelker, thanks
[15:32] <Pici> Whitor: as LjL says, you can use nohup applicationame &
[15:32] <LjL> Whitor: man nohup
[15:33] <ubox> system404: and then will prompt you about a cert it recieved and you can view, decline, or accept
[15:33] <jonaskoelker> Whitor: in zsh, use "setopt no_hup"
[15:33] <Whitor> nohup cool
[15:33] <jonaskoelker> Whitor: ... in your .zshrc
[15:33] <Whitor> How do I tell what shell I'm runing ?
[15:33] <jonaskoelker> Whitor: nohup is good, but if you want to type less, set your shell up the right way :)
[15:33] <jonaskoelker> Whitor: in your terminal, type "echo $SHELL"
[15:33] <Whitor> bash
[15:34] <Whitor> thanks
[15:34] <joaopinto> jonaskoelker, changing a shell just to facilitate nohup is not a good idea, most people use bash, it's easer to support that
[15:34] <jonaskoelker> joaopinto: I'm not suggesting a shell change
[15:34] <munky> who know if vpn works with latest network manager???
[15:34] <ubox> themod: any luck?
[15:34] <Whitor> your succesting a shell alteration
[15:34] <jonaskoelker> joaopinto: I'm suggesting configuring $SHELL to make it do what (I think) Whitor wants
[15:34] <joaopinto> jonaskoelker, so you are suggesting that is wrong
[15:34] <jonaskoelker> Whitor: nah, I'm suggesting configuring your shell such that it does what you want
[15:34] <brishu> quick question ... i installed Ubuntu using wubi so is there a way to increase the size Ubuntu takes .... without creating a dedicated partition for it???
[15:34] <joaopinto> the SHELL variable is expected to be set by the system when you log in
[15:35] <joaopinto> based on your login shell, setup on the system conf
[15:35] <Whitor> It seems ok to me to -always- untie & executed apps from the shell ...
[15:35] <joaopinto> and you are suggesting to change a file which specific to zsh, not bash
[15:35] <jonaskoelker> joaopinto: I don't understand what you're trying to say
[15:35] <Whitor> can someone explain why I wouldn't want this ?
[15:35] <foey> Can anyone help with me setting a local Samba share. I need everyone to have read/write access to the folder. No clients are require to log in (Guests)
[15:36] <munky> jonaskoelker do you know how to get vpn work?
[15:36] <jonaskoelker> munky: not really
[15:36] <jonaskoelker> munky: my vpnc is flaky as sh!t
[15:36] <foey> I've set a share up via samba, but when you type in \\servername from a windows pc it pops up asking for username and password
[15:36] <Whitor> join #samba
[15:36] <Whitor> woops
[15:36] <Whitor> just checking to see if it exists
[15:37] <LjL> Whitor: & can for instance be used to multiprocess in a shell script. if you make a programming mistake and that results in a forkbomb... good luck stopping it if closing the shell won't.
[15:37] <vigo> brishu: I am uncertain if you can expand a WUBI, maybe a remove/re-install and select a larger slice or partition.
[15:37] <Whitor> LjL, a valid point
[15:37] <cheslyn> damocles: thanks alot i really appreciate it
[15:37] <grawity> foey: In [global], try adding: guest account = nobody \n map to guest = bad user
[15:37] <conga> help eople
[15:37] <conga> help need
[15:37] <conga> :)
[15:37] <system404> ubox: ive accepted certificate still wont connect though
[15:37] <conga> anyone know a way to do the mouse click between the time interval?
[15:38] <system404> Error on notification server:
[15:38] <system404> End of stream
[15:38] <foey> grawity : Thanks, ill give that a go now.
[15:38] <ubox> system404: that is very strange. have you recently changed any network settings? firewall maybe?
[15:38] <grawity> (of course, \n is supposed to mean a line break)
[15:38] <Whitor> thanks LjL , jonaskoelker , Joaopinto , Pici ! much appreciated
[15:38] <system404> no nothing msn connected fine last night
[15:38] <jonaskoelker> Whitor: my attention got grabbed elsewhere... how far did you get with your shell tinkering?
[15:39] <jonaskoelker> Whitor: you're welcome
[15:39] <munky> jonaskoelker i don't talk about my own vpn, i need to connect to swissvpn, it should be more esay than create one :)
[15:39] <Whitor> jonaskoelker, I'm going to manually use nohup for now
[15:39] <ubox> i remember having some trouble with it the first time myself, but this time it works after i accepted the cert
[15:39] <jonaskoelker> Whitor: if that suits you, cool :)
[15:39] <simplifier> how can i  delete all the gnome pannels?
[15:40] <ubox> simplifier: rightclick, delete panel
[15:40] <simplifier> ubox:  but i can't delete the last one
[15:41] <ubox> simplifier: the top one?
[15:42] <brishu> thanks vigo .... but that was what im trying to avoid .... and im prteety sure i ccan create a dedicated partition and increase its siz .... but i wanted to see if there was an easier way ...
[15:42] <ubox> simplifier: i think you have to keep the menu. unless you switch desktop environments
[15:42] <thiebaude> simplifier, right click-delete this panel
[15:42] <ubox> why don't you want the panels?
[15:42] <grawity> simplifier: Or just kill gnome-panel
[15:43] <endriu> hej
[15:43] <jovan_> hey guys, where can i find the karmic beta iso? thanks
[15:43] <simplifier> ubox: i just want to use  dock
[15:43] <Pici> jovan_ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[15:44] <simplifier> grawity: if i restart  ,will it appears?
[15:44] <_lover_> configure:2368: error: C configure:2368: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[15:44] <_lover_> I have this error
[15:44] <Saviq> guys, any idea why flvmux isn't compiled in gstreamer0.10-plugins-good?
[15:44] <ubox> simplifier: you could tell it to auto hide, then it would still be there but you would not see it unless you put your cursor at the very top
[15:45] <_lover_> C compiler error when i am installing gnome-ppp
[15:45] <Pici> _lover_: install the build-essential package
[15:45] <simplifier> but it still occupy computer memory
[15:45] <Pici> _lover_: also, why are you compiling it? gnome-ppp is in the repositories
[15:46] <Huldabir> hello
[15:46] <_lover_> C configure:2368: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[15:46] <William-Ubuntu> hello
[15:46] <_lover_> C configure:2368: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[15:46] <ubox> simplifier: yes, perhaps you want to use enlightenment in place of metacity? it uses a rightclick menu instead of a bar. then you could have the gnome dock and a desktop click menu only
[15:46] <Pici> _lover_: Stop repeating.
[15:47] <_lover_> pici i ahve this problem
[15:47] <_lover_> i dunno why ?
[15:47] <Pici> _lover_: Did you read my responses?
[15:47] <jonaskoelker> _lover_: do you have gcc installed?
[15:47] <_lover_> gcc ?
[15:47] <_lover_> what is it ?
[15:47] <stefg> !build
[15:48] <Pici> _lover_: 1) gnome-ppp is in the respositories, you shouldnt need to compile it. 2) if you do need to compile it, install the build-essential package first.
[15:48] <_lover_> so ho can i install gnome-ppp?
[15:48] <Pici> _lover_: sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp
[15:49] <vigo> brishu: Found a guide on that: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/12208/
[15:49] <thiebaude> _lover_, sudo apt-get install
[15:49] <_lover_> ok i extract that gnome-ppp files  in folder then i run this command over there ?
[15:50] <seymour> so i came to the biggest channel i know to ask for a google wave invite
[15:50] <Pici> _lover_: no. You don't need to do anything with the source.
[15:50] <system404> ubox any ideas with pigeon yet
[15:50] <LjL> seymour: pity it's not on topic for the channel.
[15:50] <seymour> LjL, lol
[15:50] <ubox> system404: not really, being a bit ocd i would keep trying to connect lol
[15:50] <jonaskoelker> Question for you all: how do I run pulseaudio as a system service?
[15:50] <simplifier> ubox: thanks a lot . enlightmentenment  is a program?
[15:50] <_lover_> so tar.gz file i use your command in terminal
[15:51] <ubox> system404: if you wan not connect with the old one nor with the new protocol i am not sure what the problem is
[15:51] <LjL> _lover_: NO. they're saying that, in order to install gnome-ppp, you should ONLY type "sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp", and leave the tarball alone.
[15:51] <jonaskoelker> ^_^
[15:52] <ubox> simplifier: yes, it is a window manager. like metacity which is the defualt for gnome. enlightenment can be used instead. i believe it is http://www.enlightenment.org
[15:52] <_lover_> ok i try it but i know there is an another problem waiting for me let see what happen next !
[15:52] <lbsjack> who can run Eucalyptus under ubuntu 9.10 aplha 6?
[15:52] <ubox> simplifier: this is what a typical desktop can look like http://enlightenment.org/i/az-desktop.png
[15:53] <simplifier> ubox:oh thanks i'll google it
[15:53] <ubox> simplifier: that is the url there
[15:53] <ubox> enlightenment.org
[15:53] <Pici> lbsjack: Karmic is not on-topic here, Try #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu+1
[15:54] <wrapster> is there a channel for asking queries on makefiles?
[15:54] <wrapster> couldnt find one
[15:54] <abhilashm86> how to disable intel chipset graphic card? i've nvidia card, so i want intel to disable
[15:54] <AaDi> hey guys !!
[15:54] <AaDi> i downloaded virtualbox 3.deb ..i installed it..but when i run it from GUI nothing happed..from shell it says 'Could not find VirtualBox installation. Please reinstall.'
[15:54] <n8tuser> wrapster-> try those in #c
[15:54]  * Keiya grumbles.
[15:55] <brishu> thanks vigo
[15:55] <Keiya> GNOME Terminal bugs me >_>
[15:55] <abhilashm86> command to disable intel and install nvidia drivers? any tutorial link please:)
[15:55] <cheslyn> hi guys !! anyone how do i reset the root passwd
[15:55] <Keiya> I want highlight-to-copy, darnit!
[15:55] <abhilashm86> graphic drivers
[15:55] <n8tuser> AaDi-> did you use dpkg to install it?
[15:55] <AaDi> i downloaded virtualbox 3.deb ..i installed it..but when i run it from GUI nothing happen..from shell it says 'Could not find VirtualBox installation. Please reinstall.'
[15:55] <jonaskoelker> why is there no help for me today?  Are my questions too difficult?
[15:55] <grawity> Keiya: And it does copy on highlight.
[15:55] <vigo> brishu: I think that one explains it well, and you are welcome.
[15:55] <grawity> Keiya: Just to a separate clipboard.
[15:55] <grawity> Keiya: (Middle-click to paste)
[15:56] <grawity> cheslyn: Did you have a root password set? By default, Ubuntu has root account locked.
[15:56] <Keiya> grawity: Ah...
[15:56] <Keiya> There's just one problem with that
[15:56] <Keiya> I have no MMB
[15:56] <Keiya> (Touchpad)
[15:57] <grawity> Keiya: Try pressing both mouse buttons at the same time.
[15:57] <Keiya> Oooh, that works
[15:57] <grawity> Keiya: Or, learn Ctrl-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V -- this will use the GNOME clipboard.
[15:57] <Keiya> Thanks grawity ^_^
[15:57] <foey> grawity : Thanks that worked well. I am now able to type in \\servername\ without it asking me for a username and password.
[15:57] <grawity> Keiya: Some touchpads also let you tap a corner to middle-click.
[15:58] <Keiya> grawity: I can configure that using the windows drivers, but. :/
[15:58] <Keiya> Anyway
[15:58] <zacktrack> Keiya: in GNOME terminal: Edit -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[15:58] <abhilashm86> how to disable intel graphic card, pls help!!
[15:58] <alpha255> abhilashm86: bios?
[15:58] <foey> abhilashm86 : can you do this through the systems bios?
[15:58] <grawity> Keiya: And I remember using it in Ubuntu too. (It's an ALPS touchpad - not exactly synaptic, but mostly the same thing.)
[15:59] <KrimZon^> help! i can't find x-chat in the repositories on a freshly installed 9.04
[15:59] <abhilashm86> alpha255: no i want to disable onboard graphics card intel..............
[16:00] <abhilashm86> foey: i don't know,i have nvidia, so i want to use it
[16:00] <KrimZon^> nor can i find wine
[16:00] <cheslyn> grawity: yep
[16:01] <foey> abhilashm86 : OK, currently you have a onboard intel graphics card, but you wish to use your nvidia card? What is ubuntu defaulting to?
[16:01] <grawity> cheslyn: Then boot in recovery mode.
[16:02] <cheslyn> grawity: how?
[16:03] <JMFTheVCI> I have lost the ability to use sudo. Every command gets an authentication error.
[16:03] <abhilashm86> foey: its default with intel graphics card
[16:04] <grawity> cheslyn: Reboot, choose "recovery mode" from the boot menu.
[16:04] <abhilashm86> foey: did u understand my problem? just want to remove intel and install nvidia card!!
[16:04] <prateek_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/230983/+choose-affected-product I want to add 'ubuntu', but it says "There is no project in Launchpad named "Ubuntu". Please search for it as it may be registered with a different name." Searching for it tells me that there are too many results. So how is one supposed to do this?
[16:04] <abhilashm86> foey: ??
[16:05] <foey> abhilashm86 : So the Nvidia is currently running and your monitor is connected via it?
[16:05] <cheslyn> grawity: after that
[16:05] <abhilashm86> foey: i removed it, coz it will freeze ubuntu, in boot time only.........
[16:05] <thiebaude> abhilashm86, have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[16:06] <foey> abhilashm86 : ah ok. I would put the nvidia card in and do a fail safe boot, then re-configure X
[16:06] <abhilashm86> thiebaude: no not yet, i need to disable intel graphics card
[16:06] <golem_> so i try to copy something with gftp and it makes a directory with permissions d------- that it can't even delete.
[16:06] <abhilashm86> foey: u mean without disabling intel?
[16:07] <foey> abhilashm86 : Yes, normally once a AGP/PCI-E card is added the onboard card is disabled.
[16:07] <foey> abhilashm86 : All you need to do then is failsafe and reconfigure the X server with the new card.
[16:07] <crazy> hi
[16:08] <thiebaude> abhilashm86, in bios change a setting to pci and not onboard
[16:08] <abhilashm86> foey: how to do failsafe boot and others?
[16:09] <thiebaude> the
[16:09] <foey> abhilashm86 : when the boot loader loads, you should see, "Press f8 (or another key) for options, this will then give you a option to load the fail safe mode
[16:09] <genii> Or just f5 for straight to safe
[16:10] <pshr_> !dictionary
[16:10] <pshr_> well any good easy to access dictionary for ubuntu
[16:10] <abhilashm86> foey: oh ok, after installing nvidia drivers i need to do failsafe boot??
[16:11] <pshr_> No disappointments please
[16:11] <pshr_> well any good easy to access dictionary for ubuntu
[16:11] <cheslyn> grawity: r u still there
[16:11] <foey> abhilashm86 : Once in fail safe - type in :- sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:11] <foey> abhilashm86 : Fail safe first > Reconfigure X > reboot > Then install nvidia drivers.
[16:12] <mahdi_ja> hi all. i have a ati radeon hd 4670, i can not install driver for this.
[16:12] <_lover_> rofl nothing
[16:12] <ray_> exit
[16:12] <_lover_> rofl nothing
[16:12] <pshr_> well any good easy to access dictionary for ubuntu
[16:12] <pshr_> ray defining exit points :P
[16:12] <golem_> what a jungle
[16:12] <_lover_> gnome-ppp not installed
[16:12] <_lover_> :P
[16:12] <pshr_> seriously golem_ i think that too
[16:12] <abhilashm86> joey: thanks i'l do and tell...............
[16:12] <_lover_> its prove that ubuntu is ubantards
[16:12] <pshr_> so that makes you great _lover_
[16:12] <thiebaude> abhilashm86, system-administration-hardware drivers and ubuntu will search for the driver and then choose recommended driver
[16:13] <golem_> i wish filezilla was available for amd64
[16:13] <_lover_> pshr nothing in unbuntu
[16:13] <pshr_> ahem...
[16:13] <foey> golem : You can install it on a 64bit platform
[16:13] <pshr_> Dictionary..please
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> I was thinking i used filezilla on my 64bit boxc's
[16:13] <pshr_> like wordweb
[16:13] <defineyourmorals> can anyone help with installing opengl support on ubuntustudio jaunty 64-bit?
[16:14] <_lover_> lol guys what can i do
[16:14] <pshr_> defineyourmorals, did you try synaptic
[16:14] <_lover_> i wwant gnome-ppp
[16:14] <pshr_> _lover_, love
[16:14] <sipior> pshr_: apt-cache search dict
[16:14] <_lover_> :P
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> does 'open gl support' mean  installing the proper 3d drivers for your card?
[16:14] <defineyourmorals> pshr_ i did. got package errors
[16:14] <thiebaude> _lover_, did you do sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp?
[16:14] <_lover_> yeah
[16:14] <thiebaude> _lover_, what happened?
[16:14] <pshr_> sipior, not helpful
[16:15] <kiran_> how to build debian packages from installed applications
[16:15] <_lover_> nothing
[16:15] <thiebaude> !details
[16:15] <elad> Ever since I've installed the nvidia drivers, my computer boots up slower, even though I've turned off the fancy effects. Why's that?
[16:15] <_lover_> byee guys
[16:15] <thiebaude> elad, what driver do you have?
[16:15] <_lover_> i am uninstalling ubuntu
[16:16] <saxin> ok
[16:16] <_lover_> :D
[16:16] <sipior> pshr_: actually, it was. if you were interested in answering your question, instead of whining.
[16:16] <elad> 180.44
[16:16] <sipior> _lover_: why tell us?
[16:16] <golem_> _lover_ don't you threaten us
[16:16] <thiebaude> elad, i have the same driver and no problems, even with compiz,etc
[16:16] <_lover_> guys my mind is blasting now
[16:16] <thiebaude> elad, my bad i have 185 in 9.10
[16:17] <pshr_> sipior, Dude!! come on it scrolls up , what may be 50 lines up in my terminal and you expect me to search instead of whining
[16:17] <_lover_> the better one is puppylinux which i am logging through
[16:17] <sipior> pshr_: omg! you have to read and stuff!
[16:17] <_lover_> its give my pupdial-up
[16:17] <pshr_> ah! great so i am digging in
[16:17] <elad> How do I upgrade to 9.10? Is it out of beta yet? It /is/ October....
[16:17] <pshr_> Gawd....Synaptic is always life saver
[16:17] <golem_> could someone please set mode +m
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> elad:  in short.. wait.. :)
[16:17] <thiebaude> !9.10
[16:17] <pshr_> !stardict
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> elad:  its due out at the END of october
[16:17] <_lover_>  Ubantards
[16:18] <thiebaude> elad, i can tell you but, #ubuntu+1 is better
[16:18] <yonderboy> greetings!
[16:18] <pshr_> _lover_, that sounds more of like retards
[16:19] <thiebaude> !offtopic | Psr_
[16:19] <yonderboy> I keep trying to ssh to a remote host, but I keep getting: Permission denied (publickey)
[16:19] <yonderboy> I have read the ssh docs, but still don't know what to do
[16:19] <Pici> _lover_: If you have nothing to constructive to contribute here and aren't asking for support, then you can depart.
[16:19] <yonderboy> can anyone give me some pointers
[16:19] <yonderboy> ?
[16:19] <_lover_> bye
[16:19] <elad> thiebaude?
[16:19] <grawity> yonderboy: Check the permissions of remote ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[16:20] <thiebaude> elad, yea
[16:20] <yonderboy> did that!
[16:20] <yonderboy> the permissions are fine
[16:20] <stefg> yonderboy: so password based authentication might be disabled for that host.
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> yonderboy:  i also recall ssh -vvvvv (or few/less v's) for more verbose error/logging messages
[16:20] <yonderboy> did that too Dr
[16:20] <kiran_> how to patch kernal to get sound on my machine
[16:20] <grawity> yonderboy: And check the contents of authorized_keys... Often I have seen people putting the private key instead of the public one.
[16:20] <stefg> !sound | kiran_
[16:20] <grawity> yonderboy: And check remote /etc/ssh/sshd_config too.
[16:20] <yonderboy> I copied over my public key to the remote host
[16:21] <yonderboy> stefg: How could I check in the sshd_config if passwd auth might be disabled?
[16:22] <n8tuser> yonderboy-> you can not check the remote if you can not log on
[16:22] <travlingeek> ok i just bought a computer and im having this realy anoying problem i pup in the ubuntu cd and notice it dint boot so i deduce that the boot from cd option or the boot order is not apropriatly program in the bios but when i restarted the computer and push del i enter bios but 5 second later the computer just shut down
[16:22] <yonderboy> yes, i can login
[16:22] <yonderboy> through a special terminal
[16:23] <stefg> yonderboy: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ssh.htm applies to ubuntu, too
[16:23] <golem_> travlingeek: hardware problems, wrong channel
[16:23] <Pici> travlingeek: Try ##hardware instead, its not really an Ubuntu issue.
[16:24] <travlingeek> oh ok well thanks still for the pointer
[16:24] <lnxmad> What's the best way to stick an application in a tray, instead of on the "task bar"?
[16:25] <hitman> # ubuntu-ro
[16:25] <genii> hitman: /join #ubuntu-ro
[16:25] <djzn> may I ask one question, is there a way to make DOLPHIN to display only 2 panels just like Windows Explorer, or will it always displaying "as many panels as it can"
[16:25] <stefg> yonderboy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=831372 is interesting, too
[16:26] <yonderboy> stefg: on the remote host, I notice that there is a 'config' file in ~/.ssh
[16:26] <yonderboy> in that file there are parameters being set... Do you know where I can read up on this file?
[16:26] <stefg> !info alltray | lnxmad
[16:28] <yonderboy> ah, I think I found a problem
[16:28] <yonderboy> in the remote host, the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file contains: PasswordAuthentication no
[16:29] <stefg> yonderboy: and actually that's not a bad idea
[16:29] <yonderboy> does that mean that from another box, I can't do: ssh -l games@remotehost.com
[16:29] <AaDi> plz help me with installation of VBOX PLZ PLZ
[16:30] <yonderboy> stefg: I put my public key in the authorized_keys file... and it still saying permission denied
[16:30] <yonderboy> permission denied (public key)
[16:30] <Somethingelse> Hello
[16:31] <yonderboy> stefg: Can I show you the verbose output?
[16:31] <yonderboy> I can paste it (not in here) but on a paste site
[16:32] <Somethingelse> Oo Public Key?
[16:32] <stefg> yonderboy: right. you can only login from boxen that have their public key added to authorized_keys on the server. Another thing might be that you only allow login from certain hosts by IP.
[16:32] <Somethingelse> Oh i see, wasnt for me, thought it was an auto answer <.< I wanted to state a question... im trying to install Ubuntu and right after i hit enter on "Install Ubuntu" i get a flashing underline like if its waiting for an Input and nothing happens.
[16:33] <yonderboy> stefg: on the remote host, the hosts.allow and hosts.deny files are empty (except for comments)
[16:33] <adnan> hey guys
[16:33] <gwydionwaters> hey
[16:33] <AaDi> plz help me with installation of VBOX PLZ PLZ
[16:33] <stefg> !virtualbox | AaDi
[16:34] <sipior> AaDi: it would be vastly simpler if you just told us what problem you're having :-)
[16:34] <adnan> just want to setup hamachi for ubuntu managed to install it but couldnt be able to connect to network ??? does anybody setup it on his/her ubuntu?
[16:34] <gwydionwaters> sometimes zip files, that previously open, will not open claiming they are incomplete
[16:34] <gwydionwaters> any ideas?
[16:34] <gwydionwaters> these are very large and on dvd
[16:35] <sipior> gwydionwaters: what do you mean by very large, precisely?
[16:35] <AaDi> i downloaded virtualbox 3.deb ..i installed it..but when i run it from GUI nothing happen..from shell it says 'Could not find VirtualBox installation. Please reinstall.'
[16:35] <gwydionwaters> ~4gb
[16:35] <yonderboy> stefg: I think I found my answer here:
[16:35] <yonderboy> http://support.rightscale.com/index.php?title=06-FAQs/FAQ_0009_-_How_do_I_access_my_machines_via_SSH%3F
[16:35] <gwydionwaters> it opened on my last install, but i tried to upgrade and it broke so i reinstalled and now it won't open it. say's it's broken
[16:35] <orwell> nice
[16:36] <sipior> gwydionwaters: and how did you attempt to unzip them, before and now?
[16:36] <fearful> AaDi, have you tried restarting xorg I had issues after installing it, but cleared up after restarted xorg
[16:36] <yonderboy> thanks for all your help!!
[16:36] <gwydionwaters> using the default archive program
[16:36] <AaDi> fearful, no
[16:36] <adnan> AaDi, also check if services are running
[16:36] <lnxmad> thank you @ stefg and ubottu
[16:36] <AaDi> adnan, yes
[16:36] <orwell> can anyone see this I am developing a iPhone app need to know
[16:36] <AaDi> they are running adnan
[16:36] <sipior> gwydionwaters: you might try "unzip", from the terminal. if nothing else, you might get a clearer error message.
[16:36] <adnan> AaDi, ok then do as fearful said
[16:37] <gwydionwaters> ok, i'll try that. i'm copying it over to my hdd first
[16:37] <adnan> AaDi, hopefully should fix the problem
[16:37] <sipior> gwydionwaters: might also simply be that the dvd is damaged
[16:37] <adnan> guys any body tried install hamachi or logmein on ubuntu ?
[16:37] <gwydionwaters> ok, but it worked a week ago o_O
[16:38] <tavelram> how can I have several different versions of the same program at the same time? eg rdesktop 1.6 and 1.5...
[16:38] <sipior> gwydionwaters: i'm sure it did.
[16:39] <gwydionwaters> sipior: lol is this a common problem?
[16:39] <genii> tavelram: Not usually, since the names of the binaries are the same
[16:39] <sipior> gwydionwaters: not to my knowledge.
[16:40] <sipior> gwydionwaters: optical media can be maddeningly fragile at times.
[16:40] <AaDi> that's not working adnan ,fearful  i restarted xorg but vbox not running :S
[16:40] <gwydionwaters> sipior: i think osx's zips just suck. or the application 'burn'
[16:40] <tavelram> genii, yeah i know. at uni we have some program to handle that, but it would be nice if apt-get already had som functionality for that.
[16:40] <gwydionwaters> i made a more recent backup which will not work here or vista
[16:40] <AaDi> how to install non-free version of VirtualBox
[16:40] <AaDi> ?
[16:41] <adnan> AaDi, sudo apt-cache search virtualbox
[16:41] <adnan> AaDi, you will be able to see list of virtualbox ...
[16:41] <AaDi> adnan, Ok
[16:41] <fearful> AaDi, have you tried killing all the processes and then re-opening it
[16:41] <genii> tavelram: You can have the main system use some version in the /bin or /sbin    and keep a local different copy in /home/yourname/bin   or so
[16:41] <AaDi> fearful, nope
[16:42] <adnan> AaDi, ok hold on
[16:42] <gwydionwaters> same error from console, end-of-central-directory not found
[16:42] <Somethingelse> :(
[16:42] <Somethingelse> I just installed ubuntu via the inside windows installation...
[16:42] <fearful> AaDi, adnan maybe before installing the non-free version just do ps axwww | grep virtual and kill the processes with virtual box
[16:42] <Somethingelse> now its stuck in the boot screen.
[16:42] <fearful> AaDi, then try and re open it
[16:43] <gwydionwaters> maybe if i clean it with a cd solution
[16:43] <mamadpython> سلام
[16:43] <Trizicus> I am a programmer; where do I start to start programming in Linux?
[16:43] <sipior> gwydionwaters: you mentioned an upgrade before. what exactly did you upgrade between the time you successfully opened this zip file and now?
[16:43] <mamadpython> یه فارسی زبان اینجا هست ؟
[16:43] <AaDi> i desinstalled vbox
[16:43] <fccf> !sa | mamadpython
[16:43] <tavelram> genii, ok, that would nbe fine. how do I do can I use apt-get to grab it to a directory of mny choice or something?
[16:43] <AaDi> i just now need install vbox 3 on my ubuntu 9.04
[16:43] <shai> Does anyone know how I can enforce the larger DPI ( I set it to 120 instead of 96 ) on X apps I started over SSH X11 Forwarding ? The DPI set on my XDM works great, but those menus are just way to small on the apps I start via SSH ...
[16:44] <gwydionwaters> sipior: i upgraded from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 which went bad so i installed a clean 8.10 again, which was what i had when it did work. same install cd and all
[16:44] <adnan> AaDi, can you please do the following sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-cache search virutalbox , you should be able to find the x86 version of virutalbox
[16:44] <sipior> Trizicus: what sort of languages do you prefer?
[16:44] <Trizicus> C/C++/Java
[16:44] <mamadpython> ubottu, انا لا افهم الغة العربیة
[16:44] <adnan> AaDi, can you please tell me which ubuntu version you using ?
[16:44] <AaDi> adnan,
[16:44] <AaDi> imvirt - detects several virtualizations
[16:44] <AaDi> vboxgtk - simple GTK+ frontend for VirtualBox
[16:44] <AaDi> virtualbox-ose - Solution de virtualisation x86 - binaires
[16:44] <AaDi> virtualbox-ose-dbg - Solution de virtualisation x86 - symboles de débogage
[16:44] <AaDi> virtualbox-ose-guest-source - x86 virtualization solution - guest addition module source
[16:44] <FloodBot3> AaDi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <adnan> guys anybody install hamachi or logmein please let me know
[16:45] <stefg> !ide | Trizicus
[16:45] <marius-> mamadpython: ubottu is a bot, he won
[16:45] <marius-> 't answer you :)
[16:45] <DexterF> hi
[16:45] <Trizicus> I realize that however what are the compilers
[16:45] <AaDi> so
[16:45] <mamadpython> marius-, OK
[16:45] <adnan> AaDi, hold on
[16:46] <sipior> gwydionwaters: you might try accessing it from another machine. can you access the archive from the os x machine that wrote it?
[16:46] <AaDi> adnan, ok
[16:46] <marius-> Trizicus: sun-java6-jdk for java, gcc and build-essentials for c/c++
[16:46] <sipior> Trizicus: gcc and g++ will be your main staples.
[16:46] <gwydionwaters> i've removed it from my hdd
[16:46] <xTEMPLARx_> adnan:  I've used Logmein on windows PCs, but never on my linux boxes
[16:46] <marius-> that's the package names though
[16:46] <mamadpython> join ubuntu-ir
[16:46] <Trizicus> ok gcc and G++ for c/C++. What about the libs in /lib/ where can I find more info out about those
[16:46] <stefg> Trizicus: i think you should probably start by installing eclipse
[16:46] <adnan> xTEMPLARx, just tried installing hamachi which is logmein version for linux but not working
[16:46] <gwydionwaters> sipior: it does have some minor scratches in a bunch so i am going to try fixing them with a kit i have
[16:47] <xTEMPLARx_> i'm looking at the site right now
[16:47] <adnan> AaDi, sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose - x86
[16:48] <AaDi> adnan, that's the open source version...i want the closed source
[16:48] <sipior> Trizicus: those are the standard C and C++ libraries. further library documentation is usually attached to whichever library packages you choose to install. also, consider installing the manpages-dev package. you're familiar with man pages?
[16:48] <AaDi> it contains a lot of features
[16:48] <Trizicus> yes
[16:49] <genii> tavelram: I'd suggest to make a custom apt.conf file which specifies all install dirs to be under your home dir, then call apt-get with the --config-file option. Use apt-config dump        to see what variables to set in your custom file
[16:49] <Trizicus> however i've never programmed in linux before and dont know where to start
[16:49] <sipior> Trizicus: you were on windows before, or?
[16:49] <Trizicus> yes
[16:49] <lnxmad> int main(){return 0;}
[16:49] <fccf> adnan: I'm not sure what you are trying to do - whatever it is though is not officially supported in ubuntu, perhaps if you explain your needs we can offer you a supported solution
[16:50] <sipior> Trizicus: process is nearly identical. install an ide if you want, but easiest just to whip up a text file in your favourite editor, and practice compiling a few "Hello, World!" analogues via the terminal.
[16:50] <adnan> AaDi, please follow the steps mentioned in link www.howtoforge.com/virtualbox_ubuntu
[16:50] <Trizicus> alright I also noticed that a lot of apps are distributed via cvs and svn where can I learn about using these to get source?
[16:50] <xTEMPLARx_> adnan:  the only logmein software I see is a beta or pre-release copy of a browser-based client
[16:50] <adnan> fccf, i am looking for a similar solution which allows me to control ubuntu desktop from outside LAN
[16:51] <xTEMPLARx_> the hamachi page doesn't seem to mention anything but windows systems thus far
[16:51] <yanndan> irc://irc.dejatoons.net:6667/comic-scans
[16:51] <Taejo> I recently a) started using networkmanager and b) changed my login password. When I did the latter, NetworkManager started requiring my *old* password to connect to my wireless network. How can I make it go back to not asking for my password?
[16:51] <xTEMPLARx_> adnan:  i did find this page, but I'm not sure how current it is:  http://www.markmmanning.com/blog/2008/04/how-to-use-logmein-with-linux.html
[16:51] <sipior> Trizicus: google around for "subversion cvs howto" and the like. there is an enormous amount of material available for first-time users.
[16:52] <MenZa> yanndan: Please don't link that here.
[16:52] <adnan> xTEMPLARx_, thnxs let me see ...
[16:52] <Trizicus> alright thanks :)
[16:52] <marius-> Taejo: Go to applications -> accessories -> passwords and encryption keys, and right click the group and select change password
[16:52] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  I'd like to swap escape and caps lock when I'm in the console.  How do I go about this?
[16:53] <chibi> giaboooooooooooooooooooo
[16:53] <DexterF> hi
[16:53] <DexterF> problem with network scanner setup
[16:54] <fccf> adnan: do you have administrator access to your router? if so it would be as easy as opening a port and using the remote desktop that is built into gnome which is called VNC the programs you would be using are vino for the server and vinagre as the client ... or you can use SSH tunnelling and X Forwarding .. which is a little more complicated
[16:54] <ab2qik> hi
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> jonaskoelker:  ive seen guides on swaping ctrl and caps lock.. (id say check google for those) then see if you can doit for any other  key codes...
[16:54] <stefg> Taejo: see the keyring manager in Applications/Accessories
[16:54] <Taejo> marius-: if I set it to my new password, it won't ask for any password?
[16:54] <marius-> Taejo: it worked for me when I changed my pw at least :) and it doesn't ask now
[16:54] <jonaskoelker> Dr_Willis: yeah, I found one.  It suggested that if I wanted a similar change in X, I edited my XF86Config :D
[16:55] <gwydionwaters> is there anyway to force the zip to open even if it is damaged?
[16:55] <ab2qik> need help on server authorisation
[16:55] <DexterF> need to run saned but the instructions for 8.10 and before in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo are not too useful: there is no/etc/init.d/inetd and no /etc/init.d/xinetd
[16:55] <DexterF> are both not installed per default?
[16:55] <fccf> !details | ab2qik
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> gwydionwaters:  i thin the zip command has some repair/force command line options
[16:55] <adnan> fccf, thnxs
[16:55] <gwydionwaters> dr_willis: i'll check the man
[16:56] <ab2qik> running 9.04 copied contents of /var to a newly created lvm mount point /mnt/var
[16:57] <nsahoo> hi .. screen is not updating gnome terminal title correctly
[16:57] <elad`> Is there a way to get non-shitty playback on youtube?
[16:57] <fccf> !ohmy | elad`
[16:57] <ab2qik> got error: daemon/ServAuthDir is set to /var/lib/gdm
[16:57] <lbt> hi - I need to deploy a few ubuntu desktops with LUKS (dmcrypt)... what's the best install automation option? is kickstart reasonable (since it is in use for some Centos machines)
[16:58] <Psych0Pat> hi
[16:58] <elad`> Is there a way to get proper playback on youtube?
[16:58] <Psych0Pat> install flash x)
[16:58] <elad`> For example, right now, the volume knob doesn't work.
[16:58] <elad`> flash what?
[16:59] <Psych0Pat> adobe flash
[16:59] <ab2qik> should i edit gdm.conf
[16:59] <Psych0Pat> you're using un open source sowtware for read flash ?
[16:59] <fccf> ab2qik: Have you edited your /etc/fstab to reflect the changes of where /var is located
[16:59] <elad`> Apparently.
[16:59] <ab2qik> to point to /mnt/var/lib/gdm
[17:00] <elad`> I just got whatever got installed by firefox when I first entered a webpage with flash content.
[17:00] <ab2qik> fccf, Yes
[17:00] <tavelram> genii, ok, there wasnt a 1.5 of rdesktop, and I think I solved my original problem by switching to oss instead of alsa, but thanks anyway.
[17:00] <thiebaude> !flash
[17:00] <genii> tavelram: np
[17:00] <fccf> ab2qik: please pastebin your fstab ... I'll take a look
[17:00] <ab2qik> fccf, thanks
[17:00] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[17:01] <ab2qik> fccf, sorry thats difficult since i just get a shell
[17:01] <frog_> hi, i live in stud. house, i am connected to swich and the whole stud. house is conecctded to dsl. how can i check the parameters of this dsl (uplink/downlink,traffic),
[17:01] <frog_> i mean i have a switch in my room (where i plug 2 boxes). and the student house have a dsl
[17:01] <fccf> ab2qik: not so difficult if you use pastebinit ... see !pastebinit
[17:01] <ab2qik> fccf, and im on vista on this channel
[17:01] <fccf> !pastebinit
[17:02] <fccf> ab2qik: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:02] <kielanmatt> hi guyz
[17:02] <ab2qik> fccf, so pastebinit can be done from shell
[17:02] <kielanmatt> is the frequency scaling governor?
[17:02] <elad`> Do I need to uninstall the opensource flash?
[17:02] <fccf> ab2qik: yep
[17:02] <kielanmatt> a module
[17:03] <kielanmatt> is the frequency scaling governor a module
[17:03] <kielanmatt> like in modprobe
[17:03] <ab2qik> fccf,   in that case im on a dual boot machine and will go out of vista & into ubuntu.
[17:04] <gwydionwaters> how hard is it to recover files deleted from a hdd?
[17:04] <fccf> ab2qik: ugh, see ya soon
[17:04] <sarutobi> Hi
[17:04] <ab2qik> fccf, see ya
[17:04] <sarutobi> how I can make a short to .sh?
[17:05] <gwydionwaters> sarutobi: in what? gnome?
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> sarutobi:  drag it somewhere, hold down alt.. make shortcut...
[17:05] <fccf> !undelete | gwydionwaters
[17:05] <sarutobi> gnime
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> sarutobi:  or use the 'ln -s' command.
[17:05] <sarutobi> gnome
[17:05] <fearful> gwydionwaters, are you using ext2 or ext3?
[17:05] <gwydionwaters> ext3 i think
[17:05] <gwydionwaters> :(
[17:06] <elad`> I've install the restricted flash. How do I get it working instead of the opensource thing?
[17:06] <kielanmatt> excuse me
[17:06] <kielanmatt> is the frequency governor a module i can blacklis?
[17:06] <xTEMPLARx> elad:  I would make sure via synaptics manager that ONLY the restricted flash was installed
[17:06] <stefg> elad`: have you had installed swfdec/gnash before?
[17:07] <sarutobi> Dr_Willis: but where? sh /home/lucjan/Pulpit/jurny-jarzabek-skrypt.sh for example
[17:07] <elad`> stefg, I don't know.
[17:07] <elad`> !Gnash
[17:07] <stefg> elad`: then stop worrying ... everything works
[17:07] <Dr_Willis>  sarutobi  you can make a .sh executable and you dont need the sh ./whtever   at the front.
[17:07] <kielanmatt> ffs?
[17:08] <elad`> stefg, no. I'm getting the not-so-good opensource.
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> sarutobi:  make it executable then linkit whever ya want.. Or just put it in your users ~/bin/ dir and itwill be in your default path
[17:08] <tstebut> hi ?
[17:08] <elad`> stefg, the player I get is the opensource one. It's way less than satisfactory.
[17:08] <stefg> elad`: what is telling you that?
[17:08] <fearful> gwydionwaters, give me one second
[17:08] <elad`> I can see the same bugs as before I installed the restricted thing.
[17:08] <gwydionwaters> fearful: ok
[17:09] <stefg> elad`: sudo apt-get autoremove swfdec gnash
[17:09] <tstebut> Hello
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> Heh - No one ever actually uses the open sourced flashs tuff it seems
[17:09] <fccf> kielanmatt: 'sudo apt-get remove powernowd cpudyn'  will remove the userspace freq scaling ... more info here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248867
[17:09] <fearful> gwydionwaters, how did you remove these files? rm
[17:09] <tstebut> How can I so if I have a root access without id nor su command available
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> tstebut:  ubuntu uses 'sudo' not 'su'
[17:10] <fccf> !sudo | tstebut
[17:10] <sipior> Dr_Willis: no one, at least, who wants to actually watch flash media :-)
[17:10] <gwydionwaters> yep, accidental rm -R * /dir/* while in the root of my external, instead of rm -R /dir/*
[17:10] <elad`> Thanks. Boy, that's much better. Go closed-source software!
[17:10] <gwydionwaters> i was half awake lol
[17:10] <sarutobi> Dr_Willis: I can't do it ;/
[17:10] <sipior> gwydionwaters: ouch. hate to see that.
[17:10] <gwydionwaters> haha ya, me too
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> sarutobi:  clarify to the channel what you are wanting to do EXACTLY, and perhaps they can help. sounds like what you want to do is a rather trivial thing.. (but its my bed time)
[17:11] <gwydionwaters> that's the contents of my zip more or less. so i could recover somehow or fix the dvd, which is not to bad but my cd kit is cheap
[17:11] <kielanmatt> fccf : I dont have these packages and it still scles
[17:12] <LucidGuy> for some reason my amsn seems to not be able to connect to the msn network .. any ideas?
[17:12] <fccf> kielanmatt: the link I gave you has all of the modules listed, so you can blacklist them
[17:12] <loka_18> tas
[17:12] <adnan> LucidGuy, you can use pidgin, it will do the trick
[17:13] <gwydionwaters> fearful: i did find this http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html  but it confuses me a bit
[17:13] <kielanmatt> where is that file for modprobe blacklist
[17:13] <LucidGuy> adnan, I've used pidgin...  find amsn better for msn networks
[17:13] <adnan> ok
[17:13] <tstebut> I'm affraid I don't have sudo...it's on a restricted system
[17:13] <fccf> kielanmatt: if it doesn't exist you can create it here /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[17:13] <tstebut> Linux indeed but minimal, very minimal
[17:14] <adnan> LucidGuy, try killing the process and running it again
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> tstebut:  then you may need to check with the admin about doing things that need root access..  Ubuntu sets up the first user as the 'admin; user with sudo rights'
[17:14] <kielanmatt> fccf: modprobe -r removes them too doesnt it
[17:14] <fccf> kielanmatt: only until you reboot
[17:15] <kielanmatt> i dont have the modules either
[17:15] <kielanmatt> says it cant find them
[17:16] <fearful> gwydionwaters, do you know how to search with grep?
[17:16] <gwydionwaters> no
[17:17] <fccf> kielanmatt: see section 5 of that page ... it discribes how to lock the govenor to min/max levels
[17:17] <fearful> e
[17:19] <jered> alright... i could use some help here.. i screwed up royally last night
[17:19] <RobLoach> "Beta" from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule returns a 404.
[17:19] <kielanmatt> THX fccf
[17:19] <Pici> RobLoach : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[17:19] <RobLoach> ;-)
[17:20] <fccf> !ask | jered
[17:20] <jered> i wanted to install ubuntu on my hp laptop as a dual boot last night and for some reason didnt select dual boot and i believe it repartitioned my hp hard drive and wiped the restore for vista...
[17:20] <tstebut> Sorry I just want to find a turnover solution just to have knowledge of my privileges/rights/roles/access/whatever :/
[17:20] <tstebut> hello ?
[17:20] <tstebut> somebody can read me ?
[17:20] <jered> not that i want vista but my wife is freaking out at me
[17:20] <jered> ahahha
[17:20] <xTEMPLARx> tstebut:  i see you
[17:21] <acostello> what is the default program file store in ubuntu 9.04? if i want to change the default movie player to vlc, how would I do that?
[17:21] <fale> hi
[17:21] <jered> when i hit f11 for system restore when booting it doesnt even get to the vista restore
[17:21] <jered> do you think it wiped that restore partition?
[17:21] <ubuntujenkins> is it possible to have two dropbox accounts linked to my laptop at the same time? I would like to have one for each group project that we are doing at uni.
[17:22] <ubuntujenkins> I can't use ubunru one as it needs to be crossplatform
[17:22] <n8tuser> ubuntujenkins-> what is your definition of a dropbox?
[17:22] <harisund> ubuntujenkins, the dropbox forums might be a better place for that question
[17:23] <fccf> ubuntujenkins: what are you using to connect to dropbox?
[17:23] <ubuntujenkins> fccf the dropbox program from the dropbox website on my jaunty laptop
[17:24] <jered> thing that really sux is i had all my business emails and so forth on that partition and dont have a valid backup copy
[17:25] <fccf> ubuntujenkins: have 2 user accounts in linux, switch back and forth
[17:26] <DuckGod> if i install linux while it has a intel network card in it will it not install right?like not install the grub?
[17:26] <ubuntujenkins> fccf one way around it I was thinking of a more seamless aproach, but that is the best sugestion yet
[17:27] <DuckGod> if i install linux while it has a intel network card in it will it not install right?like not install the grub?
[17:27] <fccf> !repeat | DuckGod
[17:27] <tongueroo> hey guys, wondering, so when something gets compiled and built onto a system, eventually what results are binary files and executables, if i were to take the binary files and executables and copy them over to another system with the same architecture x86, would they just work?
[17:27] <tongueroo> im thinking about deployments and long compile times when i need to spin up a bunch of more servers
[17:28] <joaopinto> tongueroo, if you have the same libraries for which those binaries are linked to in the other system, yes
[17:28] <fccf> tongueroo: provided they are running the same kernel, have all necessarry libraries, and dependencies
[17:28] <joaopinto> tongueroo, why not just build the .deb packages ?
[17:28] <tongueroo> joaopinto : ic, actually we're on gentoo in production
[17:28] <tstebut> xTEMPLARx thank you
[17:29] <joaopinto> tongueroo, ah ok :\
[17:29] <tongueroo> which tends to build everything from source, hence the question
[17:29] <tongueroo> yeah, im in the wrong room :)
[17:29] <joaopinto> tongueroo, that might be a problem, don't expect library versions compatibility between gentoo and ubuntu
[17:29] <yanwei_> it's time for sleeping
[17:29] <joaopinto> tongueroo, you could setup an ubuntu chroot on the gentoo server
[17:29] <tongueroo> interesting, k, good to know, ive always have wondered that, just havent had the chance to try it out yet :)
[17:30] <huston> hey i have another question. in windows 64 bit vista if you install a program that is meant for a 32 bit system it goes into a special program files folder meant for 32 bit programs, does ubuntu 64 bit do anything similar to this?
[17:30] <joaopinto> huston, no, but you can install 32bits libraris so that you can most of the 32bits apps out there
[17:30] <joaopinto> run most
[17:31] <huston> ok. thx.
[17:31] <tongueroo> joaopinto: interesting, is chroot-ing similar to running vm's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot
[17:31] <joaopinto> tongueroo, well, kind of,, it is just virtualized in the filesystem structure sense
[17:31] <SeismicMike> I have vpnc and the Network Manager vpnc plugin installed and can successfully connect to my VPN, but cannot reach the outside Internet when I'm connected. Help? I'm running 9.04
[17:32] <joaopinto> but because on linux most of the resources are file structure based, yes, it behaves like a very light vm
[17:32] <tstebut> xTEMPLARx, If you still see me, do you know a way to know
[17:32] <xTEMPLARx> tstebut:  I'm sorry but i'm not familiar with your issue.  :(
[17:32] <tongueroo> ic, cool
[17:32] <tstebut> xTEMPLARx, If you still see me, do you know a way to know if I have root privilege on a device, without no su nor sudo nor id....
[17:32] <tstebut> Oh ok
[17:34] <Moae> hi all
[17:34] <dro> what is a good way to free up space on ltsp server
[17:34] <dro> i mean ubuntu desktop
[17:35] <acostello> can someone tell me how to change the default .wav player to vlc?
[17:35] <Moae> i have to remove LCDproc, to make a clean installation, what command i have to use to remove completely the software (i didn't install it with apt-get, i have compiled the packages)
[17:35] <torn> Right-click on it then go to Properties > Open With
[17:35] <fccf> acostello: System>Preferences>PreferredApplications
[17:36] <MoonlitFate> I accidentally deleted my SCIM icon and network connection icon from the top panel... does anyone know how I can get them back?
[17:36] <torn> fccf, "Preferred Applications" never works for me.
[17:37] <fccf> MoonlitFate: right click on the top bar... Add To Panel .. add the applets back
[17:37] <acostello> fccf: that didnt change it.
[17:37] <SeismicMike> How do I get vpnc to let me access the internet?
[17:38] <Moae> anyone can answer me? :)
[17:38] <gwydionwaters> anyone have any ideas on recovering rm'd files on ext3?
[17:38] <MoonlitFate> fccf: I would do that, if the applets were actually there, but they don't seem to be. :(
[17:38] <Madsy> Moae: sudo make uninstall && make clean? :-)
[17:39] <Madsy> Open the makefile and see what the targets are.
[17:40] <Madsy> Moae: Don't message people in private please. It's considered rude by some. Ask in the channel so everyone can benefit from the discussion.
[17:40] <sebsebseb> hi
[17:41] <fccf> MoonlitFate: Network moniter should be there ... as for SCIM .. there is a function in System>Preferences>SCIM Input Method Setup called GTK under Panel ....you should be able to do that from there
[17:42] <Moae> Madsy: sorry
[17:42] <Moae> Madsy where i have to launch the command?
[17:42] <geos64> oooooooooooooooooooooooooo GOD PLAEASE HELP ME
[17:42] <Madsy> Moae: In the build directory where the makefile is.
[17:42] <Madsy> You said you compiled the application yourself.
[17:42] <Moae> ok
[17:43] <fccf> !help | geos64
[17:43] <geos64> CANE YOU HELP ME HOW TO IN STALL 1024X760O
[17:43] <fccf> !caps
[17:43] <geos64> ON MY LINUX
[17:43] <gwydionwaters> !caps
[17:43] <geos64> ok
[17:44] <fale> any news about the b1?
[17:45] <fccf> fale: b1??
[17:45] <geos64> i what fix my screen to 1024x789
[17:45] <fale> fccf: beta 1 ;)
[17:45] <fccf> !karmic | fale
[17:45] <bjwebb> meow
[17:45] <fale> thankyou fccf
[17:46] <fccf> fale: np
[17:46] <gwydionwaters> geos64: what is it now?
[17:46] <flucksbawks> hey guys... my comp just decided to start using oss instead of alsa... alsa says connection refused to audio device, etc.. someone wanna help?
[17:46] <flucksbawks> oss doesn't work btw
[17:47] <geos64> my screen is low and whant make it to 1024x789
[17:47] <fccf> 1024x768 is the correct
[17:47] <geos64> yes
[17:48] <fccf> geos64: you will probably need to install restricted drivers for your video card ... Do you know what kind of card you have, as in model number and make
[17:48] <geos64> 1024x768 is in my system
[17:48] <flucksbawks> oh gosh
[17:49] <fccf> !patience | flucksbawks
[17:49] <jaspion_me> --> --> + y
[17:49] <Two4> what was that for?
[17:49] <geos64> i install it today
[17:49] <flucksbawks> fccf: thats not why I said oh gosh...
[17:49] <jaspion_me> Liu Kang High Fireball Dragon
[17:49] <stefg> !fixres | fccf
[17:49] <jaspion_me> jajajaja
[17:50] <fccf> stefg: not for me
[17:50] <stefg> !sound | flucksbawks
[17:50] <flucksbawks> stefg: I know... unfortunately I'm not running gnome..  or any DE for that matter
[17:51] <stefg> flucksbawks: how then that you have oss installed ?
[17:51] <Two4> flucksbawks, you're running from the bash?
[17:51] <ubunoob> hello i have a little problem, i don't know how to change the password of my normal user, because i forgett it. im now connected with my su-account.
[17:52] <flucksbawks> Two4: well, its an HTPC that runs fluxbox,  but when I run mplayer from shell it tries all ao's, and fails miserably with all of them now
[17:52] <sebsebseb> ubunoob: ok that's easy enough to sort out
[17:52] <n8tuser> ubunoob-> passwd username
[17:52] <lizzzy> My speakers work perfectly but front headphones won't work.
[17:52] <flucksbawks> Two4: I install pulseaudio from source, and it didn't come with an uninstall script =P
[17:52] <sebsebseb> ubunoob: In the olden Ubuntu days would have to use a Live CD to sort that out,  but  not for the past few or so releases since recovery mode
[17:52] <flucksbawks> Two4: but alsa was still working after that for about 2-3 months
[17:53] <stefg> flucksbawks: have you checked lsmod that all your (alsa) kernel modules are loaded?
[17:53] <euxneks> flucksbawks: you should be able to make uninstall in your src directory
[17:53] <sphenxes> what open source VOIP would you recommend to use instead of skype? and also call land line
[17:53] <LobbyZ> Is it correct to call Ubuntu a debian OS? (just say yes or no)
[17:53] <Two4> flucksbawks, you lost me at HTPC
[17:53] <sebsebseb> ubunoob: boot it up from Grub, get the root shell, and passwd username, or use the Live CD
[17:53] <euxneks> flucksbawks: if you wanted to remove something your installed by src I mean
[17:53] <lizzzy> anyone?
[17:53] <flucksbawks> euxneks: I tried that, no target to uninstall
[17:53] <euxneks> d'oh
[17:53] <fccf> LobbyZ: yes and no
[17:53] <stefg> flucksbawks: usually a make install can be undone with a make uninstall
[17:53] <euxneks> lizzzy: are you certain the front speaker ports actually work>?
[17:54] <LobbyZ> fccf, yes and no? how come?
[17:54] <geos64> what do i do
[17:54] <fccf> !debian | LobbyZ
[17:54] <souler> >.<
[17:54] <flucksbawks> stefg: I know.. thats why I'm mad because there was no uninstall target
[17:54] <souler> I need help with Nvidia graphics x.x
[17:54] <ubunoob> omg it wasnt the password is was my user :-D  i now found the right username
[17:54] <ubunoob> thanks
[17:54] <sebsebseb> !detials |  souler
[17:54] <lizzzy> euxneks: Yup. Works perfectly on windoze.
[17:54] <sebsebseb> !detials |  souler
[17:54] <souler> I installed, then it worked perfectly at first. After I restarted my computer the craphics gone horribly wrong... as in back to the same was as I installed ubuntu.
[17:55] <fccf> !details | souler
[17:55] <souler> ubottu, I was typing out.
[17:55] <sebsebseb> fccf: hmm odd I spelt it wrong for a second time
[17:55] <stefg> flucksbawks: awww, great.... now you can only do a make install to some temporary dir only to see what went where and delete file by file...
[17:55] <euxneks> souler: "gksudo nvidia-settings" then save output to xorg.conf
[17:56] <lizzzy> I think its a intel hda playback issue?
[17:56] <euxneks> lizzzy: try opening up the sound properties
[17:56] <lizzzy> ok
[17:56] <flucksbawks> stefg: lol yeah... afraid of that,  but pulseaudio isn't really my problem.. its that alsa seems to not be configured correctly anymore
[17:56] <euxneks> lizzzy: you may have something muted that controls the front jack
[17:56] <flucksbawks> stefg: because alsa was still running fine, even when pulse couldn't connect
[17:56] <lizzzy> euxneks: Not really...
[17:56] <flucksbawks> stefg: it just recently stopped working, and for some reason connects to oss, but plays no sound
[17:56] <sebsebseb> souler: You messaged a bot :)
[17:57] <lizzzy> euxneks: Everything is unmuted.
[17:57] <souler> Hey it\s my first time here
[17:57] <souler> and my keyboard also got messed up for no reason
[17:57] <souler> >.<
[17:57] <souler> And how do I save it as an output from there_
[17:57] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: Some people get sound issues in Ubuntu
[17:58] <fccf> flucksbawks: I am thinking that an update may have occurred that broke something, perhaps recompiling pulse under the new config might fix things
[17:58] <souler> All I see is HELP button and QUIT
[17:58] <flucksbawks> fccf: but how would pulse work correctly at all, if alsa isnt?  pulse runs off of alsa
[17:58] <flucksbawks> fccf: doesn't it?
[17:58] <stefg> flucksbawks: you said that is a lean HTPC install ? it might be more time-efficient just to backup the few important configs and reinstall instead of tracking and cleaning the mess
[17:58] <oleg__> hi all
[17:58] <FrankQC> o hai
[17:59] <fccf> flucksbawks: I actually agree with stefg on this one
[17:59] <flucksbawks> stefg: well, its an HTPC that is also a seedbox with a heavily invested userbase =P
[17:59] <dom96> hello, can anybody help me with a kernel panic i get on an acer aspire one, i executed dmesg, and i found http://pastebin.mozilla.org/673884
[17:59] <flucksbawks> stefg: its a server, that also happens to have output to a TV =P
[17:59] <oleg__> I have strange sound problem. Sound goes well, but when I use my HDD (copying files, moving them) the sound starts waving. Can anyone suggest something?
[18:00] <souler> euxneks how do I save it as what you asked_
[18:01] <oleg__> anyone?
[18:01] <lizzzy> Hmm.. Ok so, when i test the playback using my headphones, it doesn't work. The most interesting thing is if I plug it into my microphone slot, I can use it as headphones (that is I can hear the audio!)
[18:01] <geos64> i what help so i cann config to 1024x768
[18:01] <stefg> flucksbawks: a server-server or some low power home server?
[18:01] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: oh
[18:02] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: I guess for whatever reason the hardware isn't being detected properly
[18:02] <souler> So
[18:02] <souler> >.<
[18:02] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: Yeah. That's prolly right. But, is there a solution?
[18:02] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: this might be useful and then again it might be useless
[18:02] <MoonlitFate> fccf: Sorry for the really delayed response, had to go do some stuff. I found what you were talking about for SCIM, and I'll reboot and see if that brings the icon back.  But, I can't find Network Monitor-- for add to panel there is only a Modem Monitor for dial-up.
[18:02] <sebsebseb> !sound | lizzzy
[18:03] <flucksbawks> stefg: well, its got about 30-40 users, and 5 TB of stuff
[18:03] <flucksbawks> stefg: its at my house, but I have a pretty thick business line
[18:03] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: Did that. Don't work :(
[18:03] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: ok the thing it suggested, but did you go on the links?
[18:03] <geos64> PLES HELP
[18:03] <souler> It\s fucking ridicilous I can see only one line of the chat. THe rest is bloody huge because of the stupidly low resolution
[18:03] <stefg> flucksbawks: because the seedbox actually would be a candidate for virtualization...
[18:04] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: WIll do that now :)
[18:04] <sebsebseb> !ask  |  geos64
[18:04] <flucksbawks> stefg: what do you mean?
[18:04] <sebsebseb> !language |  souler
[18:04] <souler> >.<
[18:04] <flucksbawks> souler: I bet you saw that line huh -.-
[18:05] <souler> what line
[18:05] <MoonlitFate> Lol. >o>
[18:05] <sint> hey, i want to install ubuntu to a friend. but i don't wanna reinstall in about a month. so would you suggest to install 9.10? will 9.10 be stable with updates in about a week or two?
[18:05] <flucksbawks> souler: the ubottu line, I was jk tho
[18:05] <geos64> i dont know how to set sreen to 1024x768
[18:05] <souler> huh_
[18:05] <sebsebseb> sint: yes install 9.10
[18:05] <souler> x.x
[18:05] <stefg> flucksbawks: in server think you never try do give more than one dedicated job to a machine. you think in terms of appliances: Mail-appliance here, seedbox-appliance there, home-entertainmaint appliance over there
[18:05] <souler> I need my drivers fixed. . .
[18:05] <sebsebseb> sint: it's released on October 29th
[18:05] <souler> or just graphics
[18:05] <flucksbawks> sint: karmic is pretty stable atm, I use it on my laptop
[18:05] <geos64> i runing ubuntu 9
[18:05] <sint> sebsebseb: where to download?
[18:05] <sebsebseb> sint: don't get it early
[18:06] <MoonlitFate> sebsebseb: 9.10, you mean? :o
[18:06] <flucksbawks> stefg: yeah, I know.  thats why its just fluxbox and mplayer =P
[18:06] <geos64> but i dont have the dvd
[18:06] <sint> sebsebseb: ??
[18:06] <fccf> geos64: 9.04 , or the prereleased 9.10? there is a big difference
[18:06] <sebsebseb> flucksbawks: it's  being alright for me as well,  but you shoudn't recommend people get it early, since there can still be certain problems
[18:06] <sint> sebsebseb: first you say "install it" and then "dont" ?
[18:06] <sint> :D
[18:06] <sebsebseb> sint: wait for the final before doing 9.10 that's what I am saying
[18:07] <oleg__>  I have strange sound problem. Sound goes well, but when I use my HDD (copying files, moving them) the sound starts waving. Can anyone suggest something?
[18:07] <geos64> 9.04
[18:07] <MoonlitFate> I'll be back, going to reboot and see if SCIM comes back...
[18:07] <sunshinepants> is there a way I can tell nautilus to not try to mount my sony phone? I've turned the options off in its preferences.. do I need to restart gnome?
[18:07] <stefg> flucksbawks: but now you see where non-existant isolation leads to
[18:07] <fccf> sint: your other option would be to install 9.04 and run the upgrade next month which is easyer than reinstalling
[18:08] <mcchris> my wife's Ubuntu box is infected with something called 'malware-stop.org'. google has nothing. does anyone know what this is?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> fccf: next months is November :D  it's the 1st of October today
[18:08] <flucksbawks> stefg: stefg well, thats not the problem..  I shouldn't have tried to compile pulseaudio from src just for projectM... lol
[18:08] <geos64> what and how do i stall it
[18:08] <flucksbawks> stefg: I know where I went wrong, I just don't know how to fix it
[18:08] <jrib> mcchris: infected how?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> fccf: the 2nd in some parts of the world also
[18:08] <sint> fccf: ya, but i never got an upgrade run perfectly. so i would install 9.04 and have it run forever. my friend is not the geek type of person and just needs a pc for internet
[18:09] <fccf> sebsebseb: yeah, but the ubuntu servers are going to be slammed until at least the first of november
[18:09] <sebsebseb> fccf: yeah I was just thinking about that as well
[18:09] <mcchris> jrib, firefox hijacked, won't allow loading of any other web pages.
[18:09] <sebsebseb> sint: I see
[18:09] <jrib> mcchris: easiest way is probably to just create a new profile
[18:09] <skmpz> hello .. i want to sort a 1.5 text file.. i tried sort -u unsorted.txt > sorted.txt but i don't think is ever going to complete .. is there any other way ?
[18:09] <sebsebseb> sint: no  you don't do 9.04 for ages,  since only 18 months of support on the desktop, same thing for 9.10
[18:09] <MoonlitFate> Hm, apparently the update manager isn't telling when updates are available. Oh joy. D<
[18:09] <jrib> mcchris: isn't restarting firefox enough?
[18:10] <stefg> flucksbawks: if that's a reasonably powerful machine i'd use xen or kvm  on it and have separate instances for the htpc and for the seedbox part (and a third for a firewall appliance like ipcop or endian)
[18:10] <geos64> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:10] <sebsebseb> sint: 10.04 is the next LTS
[18:10] <mcchris> jrib wondering if system files might be compromised
[18:10] <jrib> mcchris: her user doesn't have access to system files
[18:10] <jrib> mcchris: unless she has sudo access and is running firefox with sudo
[18:11] <mcchris> jrib, shouldn't be. she's a noob.
[18:11] <XLV> mcchris, use noscript from now on too.. and no visiting of dubious sites
[18:11] <mcchris> jrib, so you suspect it's only FF then?
[18:11] <jrib> mcchris: yeah
[18:11] <sint> sebsebseb: ya, i know. i just meant that i don't want to maintain to much on friends computers
[18:11] <flucksbawks> stefg: its not that reasonably powerful >.< the fact is when I said HTPC, I really meant it has fluxbox and mplayer.  Under no circumstances should that EVER interfere with the server end of it.  However, ignorantly compiling things from source will
[18:11] <sebsebseb> sint: put  9.10 on :) wait for it,  nice  default  Ext4 :)  fast file system.   then an upgrade to 10.04  the next LTS, should go alright.  and  that has three years of support on the desktop
[18:11] <flucksbawks> stefg: the server has never even hiccupped over the past 2 years
[18:12] <Padhu> what about datarecovery in ext4?
[18:12] <box> sint: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[18:13] <sebsebseb> sint: plus  they  might have hardware which isn't good with 9.04
[18:13] <sebsebseb> Padhu: I guess like with Ext3
[18:13] <eddiebuntu> how do you change your mac address in ubuntu
[18:13] <geos64> how cann i set this up
[18:13] <stefg> flucksbawks: that were more philosophical considerations... but to fix the failed pulseaudio build and debug alsa i'm afraid you'll have to read a lot of documentation
[18:13] <pinguinodemo> ciao ragazzi
[18:14] <flucksbawks> stefg: yeah,  i was afraid of that.  was just hoping that someone here had fixed the same issue lol
[18:14] <MoonlitFate> Restart time. >:
[18:14] <fccf> geos64: we cannot help you until we know what kind of hardware you have -
[18:14] <geos64> HELP ME
[18:14] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: Any luck?
[18:14] <flucksbawks> stefg: but yeah, my users don't pay for their service,  so frankly if I accidently spilled rum inside the server 10 minutes from now
[18:14] <Pici> sint, box, sebsebseb: 9.10 is still beta, its not ready for prime time.  Also, the iso tracker on the qa site should not be used in place of the official beta announcement, those may be buggy cd images.
[18:14] <flucksbawks> stefg: and it went down forever,  they could all deal with that themselves lol
[18:14] <fccf> !it | pinguinodemo
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Pici: indeed  hence why I told sint to wait untill the final
[18:15] <stefg> flucksbawks: planned maintenace downtime sounds more professional :-)
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Pici: also the other thing, not sure what your talking about?
[18:15] <geos64> wy dos it play a roll
[18:15] <flucksbawks> stefg: LOL that made me laugh pretty hard irl
[18:15] <geos64> what system i have
[18:15] <flucksbawks> stefg: <---- used to work for an ISP
[18:15] <skmpz> anyone available to help me ?
[18:15] <Pici> sebsebseb: I might have misread, I just got back to my desk.
[18:16] <fccf> !ask | skmpz
[18:16] <sebsebseb> Pici: oh ok np
[18:16] <skmpz> i asked
[18:16] <skmpz> hello .. i want to sort a 1.5 text file.. i tried sort -u unsorted.txt > sorted.txt but i don't think is ever going to complete .. is there any other way ?
[18:16] <skmpz> 1.5 gb
[18:16] <PSP> how quck!!
[18:16] <PSP> i have a .pnm
[18:16] <eddiebuntu> how do you change your mac address in ubuntu
[18:16] <sint> ok guys, i'll install 9.04. i can't wait because my friend is almost 200km from my home and i am there tonight
[18:16] <PSP> i need it to jpeg or png og bmp
[18:16] <jrib> skmpz: ummm, why...?
[18:17] <geos64> celaron 2.6 intel with 512ram 40gig
[18:17] <flucksbawks> stefg: anyways, thanks for you help man.  I'm gonna go lose myself in documentation
[18:17] <skmpz> what do u mean why ?
[18:17] <skmpz> why not use sort -u ?
[18:17] <jrib> skmpz: why do you want to sort 1.5gb of data?
[18:17] <LjL> PSP: pnmtopng filename.pnm >filename.png
[18:17] <skmpz> its a wordlist..
[18:17] <Pici> PSP: The application LjL is suggesting is in the netpbm package.
[18:17] <skmpz> dictionary
[18:17] <manojmalik> hi 2 all
[18:17] <PSP> i dont have a clue wat uu are saying
[18:17] <PSP> can u tellme wer to download it
[18:18] <geos64> fccf celaron 2.6 intel with 512ram 40gig
[18:18] <LjL> PSP: nowhere.
[18:18] <LjL> PSP: just type "sudo apt-get install netpbm"
[18:18] <stefg> flucksbawks: and think of it if you really reset the box.... kvm isn't hard to implement, and xen became quite good over the years
[18:18] <preetam> i am unable to open synaptic manager.the system gives the following message E: Unable to write mmap - msync (28 No space left on device)E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[18:18] <fccf> geos64: doesn't tell me much about your video card ... what video card does it have???
[18:18] <GeForce88> when using dual view, i  think, the one where you have two seperate x screens, is there a trick to make the programs go between the screens? or perhaps a setting somewhere i've missed? or is this just the way it is ?
[18:18] <skmpz> jrib: understood ?
[18:18] <LjL> skmpz: a wordlist of 1.5gb? are there duplicates or something?
[18:18] <jrib> skmpz: well you haven't answered my question, but I must go anyway
[18:19] <skmpz> yeah ..
[18:19] <geos64> its a sis fx 660 or 760
[18:19] <LjL> preetam: seems like your HD is full...?
[18:19] <geos64> how i see that
[18:20] <skmpz> so.. the only solution would be sort -u unsorted > sorted ?
[18:20] <GeForce88> geos64,  did you try ' lspci ' ?
[18:20] <preetam> no i have around 3 GB of free space
[18:20] <preetam> let me know how to clean up the hard disk
[18:20] <manojmalik> hi 2 all
[18:20] <manojmalik> i got a ubuntu 9.04 cd from ubuntu. i run it on my 1525.it runs ok but no sound ,video. it asks for plugin from net, but i not able 2 make my broadband dialup as easy in windows.
[18:21] <eddiebuntu> how do you change your mac address in ubuntu
[18:21] <MaskedDriver> call the USPS?
[18:21] <geos64> what is and wher is it
[18:21] <LjL> skmpz: not necessarily, perhaps there are more efficient sorters around, i don't really know though. in any case, sorting 1.5gb of stuff is never going to take a short time
[18:22] <fccf> geos64: start by typing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' into a terminal, then restart
[18:22] <Lint01> how can I change my locale for me as user?
[18:22] <stefg> !ds
[18:22] <skmpz> mmm.. ok thx anw
[18:22] <stefg> !pppoe
[18:22] <stefg> manojmalik: ^^
[18:23] <manojmalik> can anyone help me
[18:23] <GeForce88> with seperate X screen, is there a way t o drag programs between monitors ?
[18:23] <fccf> !locale | Lint01
[18:23] <manojmalik> i got a ubuntu 9.04 cd from ubuntu. i run it on my 1525.it runs ok but no sound ,video. it asks for plugin from net, but i not able 2 make my broadband dialup as easy in windows.
[18:23] <Two4> !patience | manojmalik
[18:23] <stefg> !helpme | manojmalik
[18:24] <Two4> now I know the right command
[18:24] <stefg> !details | manojmalik
[18:24] <jdv> manojmalik so your problem is no net connection, how do you normally connect?
[18:25] <geos64> is it cald console
[18:25] <Lukasz1> I forgot my password to irc how do I reset it?
[18:25] <stefg> !freenod | Lukasz1
[18:25] <stefg> !freenode | Lukasz1
[18:25] <LjL> Lukasz1: ask in #freenode
[18:25] <Two4> lukasz1, you're on IRC
[18:26] <Lukasz1> I know I have an account here
[18:26] <LjL> Two4: he's not identified.
[18:26] <Lukasz1> On freenode
[18:26] <Lukasz1> I don't know how to resetpass
[18:26] <Lint01> I have no localeconf package and I want useful answer for my question
[18:26] <Lukasz1> my nickname here is Lukasz Tarkowski
[18:26] <manojmalik> its 9.04 n i dont know how 2 make dialup i have broadband connection
[18:27] <LjL> Lukasz1: ask in #freenode
[18:27] <geos64> fccf you mean konsolo
[18:27] <Lukasz1> ok thnx
[18:27] <stefg> manojmalik: which kind of broadband? cable? adsl?
[18:29] <manojmalik> adsl
[18:29] <alabd_> Good day everyone , while hsfconfig this happened what is the exact problem ?http://paste.ubuntu.com/283019/ Is there any free 56kb/s hsf modem driver for kernel 2.6.28
[18:30] <preetam> how to clean to free space in the hard disk
[18:30] <stefg> manojmalik: do you know if it is PPPoE or PPPoA ?
[18:30] <geos64> wher is the terminal fccf
[18:30] <Mka> preetam: sudo apt-get clean
[18:30] <ltcabral> what package gives me dbuild??
[18:31] <fccf> geos64: are you running kubuntu or ubuntu ... in gnome it is in Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[18:31] <manojmalik> pppoe
[18:31] <sczgilae> hello, excuse me but i have the same problem i told yesterday. i have an script that mounts a shared network directory but cannot mount because konsola sais that must be root to mount. But i dont understand because if i mount using dolphin i have not problems, http://pastebin.com/d32befe57   , any ideas?
[18:31] <stefg> !pppoe | manojmalik
[18:32] <Lint01> how can I change the locale for a single user?
[18:32] <geos64> ubuntu
[18:32] <raul_> hola a todos tengo un problema grabicimo
[18:32] <raul_> no puedo abrir un archivo
[18:32] <fccf> !es | raul_
[18:32] <stefg> !es | raul_
[18:32] <raul_> que se encuentra en el escritorio
[18:33] <raul_> haber si alguien me puede ayudar
[18:33] <fccf> !br | raul_
[18:33] <geos64> i found it
[18:34] <geos64> fccf and then what!!
[18:34] <geos64> i reboot my pc
[18:35] <lizzzy> I have a plugin for songbird which is a .xpi file. Any idea how I can install the plugin?
[18:35] <MoonlitFate> Hm, well still no SCIM icon on the top panel. :(
[18:36] <harisund> lizzzy, I used to drag the .xpi file and drop it within the Sunbird interface on Windows XP .. does that work here?
[18:36] <lizzzy> lemme try
[18:36] <LogicalDash> I keep turning on Mouse Keys by accident. How am I doing this?
[18:37] <fccf> geos64: I gave you the command
[18:37] <preetam> can i reduce the size of  my /usr folder by uninstalling software.
[18:37] <LogicalDash> preetam, yes, and also by uninstalling other packages, like documentation
[18:38] <IonutB> hi. i'm using ubuntu 9.04 on x64. i have 4 GB Ram/800 MHz and a AMD x2 Dual core. My firefox is veeeeerrryyy slowwwwwwwww !? :|
[18:38] <MaskedDriver> preetam, I wouldn't delete documentation
[18:38] <preetam> please let me know how to reduce the size of the folder /usr.
[18:38] <MaskedDriver> IonutB, install graphics drivers
[18:38] <LogicalDash> preetam, well, only delete those packages you're sure you won't use
[18:38] <geos64> ok im reboot my pc
[18:39] <IonutB> MaskedDriver, it's installed already. i have normal visual effects
[18:39] <yonderboy> 'ello
[18:39] <Mka> Now that I've finished learning basics of programming and scripting, I need a bigger fish to fry. what should I try to program?
[18:39] <preetam> through synaptic package manager
[18:39] <preetam> or some other method is avialable
[18:39] <MaskedDriver> IonutB, how is it slow? in what way? like opening? closing? browsing? creating new tabs?
[18:39] <LogicalDash> Mka, try going on Launchpad and finding a bug to fix :)
[18:39] <yonderboy> is it possible to compress a file to an even smaller size than what gzip does?
[18:39] <Fitzpackage> MKA try to program your own shell program in C
[18:39] <LogicalDash> yonderboy, yeah, use bzip or lzma
[18:39] <Two4> LogicalDash, does it turn on while you're typing?
[18:39] <manojmalik> no sound in 9.04
[18:40] <Lint01> how can I change the locale for a single user?
[18:40] <MaskedDriver> yonderboy, you could zip a zip and then zip that zip using gzip then gzip that gzip with zip
[18:40] <IonutB> MaskedDriver, when i run pages which contains Flash. I have 3 addons : AdBlock Plus, Firebug and Web Developer.
[18:40] <LogicalDash> Two4, it turns on while I'm using the numpad to play Dungeon Crawl
[18:40] <ilson> ola
[18:40] <Pici> !offtopic | Mka
[18:40] <ilson> alguem ai tecla portuguues
[18:40] <Pici> !pt | ilson
[18:40] <hrickards> Is there a way to enable Metacity to let you drag windows off the top of the screen (note metacity not compiz)?
[18:40] <ilson> portuguese
[18:40] <MaskedDriver> IonutB, interesting
[18:40] <ilson> ??
[18:40] <yonderboy> MaskedDriver: my head is spinning with all those zips!
[18:40] <thiebaude> !es
[18:41] <yonderboy> usually I just do... tar -czf
[18:41] <hrickards> !gb
[18:41] <MaskedDriver> yonderboy, tar that tar then gzip
[18:41] <LogicalDash> yonderboy, change z to j and you have bzip2
[18:41] <yonderboy> but the file that I need to compress is HUGE, like 20G
[18:41] <IonutB> MaskedDriver, yes .. i really love the terminal but this problem makes me angry. i'm web developer  ... i can't use a "slow firefox"
[18:41] <ilson> ok
[18:42] <thiebaude> !browser
[18:42] <MaskedDriver> IonutB, I have like 20 addons on mine and it's fine... what type of flash plugin do you have? one by Adobe or one of the OpenSource variety?
[18:42] <ubuntujenkins> what time is the beta release out?
[18:42] <Mka> !ubuntu>Mka
[18:42] <yonderboy> hmmm... does bzip2 make much of a difference over gzip?
[18:42] <euxneks> another browser that you could also possibly want to use is chromium
[18:42] <IonutB> Adobe Flash, last version. got installed few days ago.
[18:42] <Pici> ubuntujenkins: When its done, 9.10 discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[18:43] <mlissner> Does anybody have any experience with PGP or Enigmail?
[18:43] <MaskedDriver> IonutB, try removing adblock and see if that improves performance.  Just start removing them to see which one is causing the slowdown
[18:43] <zion> need help whit installing flash player
[18:43] <hrickards> Is there a way to enable Metacity to let you drag windows off the top of the screen (note metacity not compiz)?
[18:43] <LogicalDash> !ask | mlissner
[18:43] <mlissner> I'm trying to create a revocation certificate, but Enigmail is failing me miserably.
[18:43] <MaskedDriver> IonutB, how did it run before you added your dev tools?
[18:43] <Mka> yonderboy, yes
[18:44] <[manas]> need help whit installing flash player
[18:44] <LogicalDash> mlissner, you should probably use Seahorse for that, it's in Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys
[18:44] <LogicalDash> !ask | [manas]
[18:44] <thiebaude> IonutB, do you have swfdec installed?
[18:44] <yonderboy> Mka: how would I unzip that bzip2 file then if I do... tar -cjf
[18:44] <mlissner> It gives me the error, "The revocation certificate could not be created."
[18:44] <IonutB> thiebaude, i have Adobe Flash 10. MaskedDriver : i'm going to see now.
[18:44] <LogicalDash> yonderboy, tar -xjf $filename
[18:45] <Mka> yonderboy, tar -xjf filename.tar.bz2
[18:45] <thiebaude> IonutB, ok, some ppl had problems with swfedec
[18:45] <yonderboy> ah, just like gzip but with the 'j'... brilliant!
[18:45] <thiebaude> including me
[18:45] <mlissner> LogicalDash: I'm confused how enigmail and seahorse interact.
[18:45] <yonderboy> thanks all
[18:46] <mlissner> LogicalDash: It seems like seahorse has some of the same certificates as enigmail, but doesn't have all of them...which leaves me confused.
[18:46] <[manas]> need help whit installing flash player for mozila i was trying so many totorial so i think i mix up everything how i can delete all of them and maybe some one can give me some totorial
[18:46] <LogicalDash> mlissner, they are both just frontends for the gpg command line utility. Enigmail isn't as well supported though.
[18:46] <mlissner> LogicalDash: I see. So if I create a certificate using Enigmail, it should automatically show up in Seahorse?
[18:46] <thiebaude> [manas], install flash from synaptic
[18:46] <LogicalDash> mlissner, it *should*, yeah
[18:47] <[manas]> thiebaude, synaptic?
[18:47] <thiebaude> !synaptic
[18:47] <IonutB> MaskedDriver, done. seems the same. i think there's a bug in Adobe Flash or something like that.
[18:47] <mlissner> LogicalDash: Complicated stuff, this PGP.
[18:47] <[manas]> thiebaude, try to type flash player there it will give u 100 option which one i need?
[18:47] <LogicalDash> [manas] the package you are looking for is called flashplayer-nonfree
[18:48] <MaskedDriver> IonutB, sehr interessant (very interesting in German).  Has your kernel updated recently?
[18:48] <[manas]> LogicalDash, but how i can delete all this which one i installed before?
[18:48] <mlissner> LogicalDash: Does seahorse do revocations?
[18:48] <LogicalDash> [manas] it'll do that automatically
[18:48] <IonutB> MaskedDriver, yes, i have the last. Linux 0x 2.6.28-15-generic
[18:48] <LogicalDash> mlissner, yup, it should be in the right-click menu
[18:48] <brutus> how do I scan my windows ntfs drive? fsck doesn't allow this type...?
[18:49] <MaskedDriver> IonutB, I've had to reinstall all of my graphics after every kernel upgrade
[18:49] <[manas]> LogicalDash, i will try
[18:49] <mlissner> LogicalDash: Scratch that, I found it. It's not in the right click, it buried within the properties.
[18:49] <LogicalDash> oops
[18:49] <fccf> brutus: install ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs
[18:49] <IonutB> MaskedDriver, mine was default installed :-)
[18:49] <kansan> can i write an ubuntu jaunty cd image to a dvdr disc?
[18:49] <MaskedDriver> IonutB, what kind of card do you have?
[18:49] <fccf> kansan: yes
[18:49] <IonutB> Ati x1550/1350
[18:49] <sebsebseb> kansan: yes and before burning the ISO you should md5sum it
[18:49] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | kansan
[18:50] <brutus> fccf, sadly, i tried ntfsprogs on the drive, but it segfaulted...
[18:50] <LogicalDash> kansan, yes, just use dd if=$path_to_cd_image of=/dev/cdrom (or whatever your dvd drive is)
[18:50] <mlissner> LogicalDash: Haha. First it fails to revoke it, then it crashes. So much for seahorse being helpful.
[18:50] <Huston> i feel like such a newb again having to ask all these questions but here is one more. can anyone explain to me why my computers running ubuntu are not being discovered my network. my network consists of 3 windows only computers and 2 ubuntu computers besides my laptop which is now able to dual-boot.
[18:50] <IonutB> MaskedDriver, i have the same problem ( slow firefox with flash bug ) on a laptop with intel x3100. ( the compiz was ok )
[18:50] <LogicalDash> mlissner, we are now beyond my expertise, sorry
[18:50] <mlissner> LogicalDash: 'fraid of that.
[18:50] <fccf> brutus: ntfsprogs is not a program ... it is a bunch of progs . one of which is fsck.ntfs
[18:51] <MaskedDriver> IonutB, *shrugs* idk sorry dude(or dudette)
[18:51] <sczgilae> hello, excuse me but i have the same problem i told yesterday. i have an script that mounts a shared network directory but cannot mount because konsola sais that must be root to mount. But i dont understand because if i mount using dolphin i have not problems, http://pastebin.com/d32befe57   , any ideas?
[18:51] <purplefool> hello, i am back and trying to get my grub to work.  i have used the qksudo gedit command with menu.lst and it DOESN'T work for my situation because i have a menu before this menu in menu.lst.  i want this other menu to go away and cannot get it to work.  any ideas?
[18:51] <Lint01> how can I know my display color depth?
[18:51] <IonutB> MaskedDriver, trotzdem danke
[18:52] <MaskedDriver> IonutB, bitte
[18:52] <thiebaude> Lint01, which graphics card?
[18:52] <brutus> fccf, you mean ntfsfix?
[18:52] <Lint01> thiebaude, Radeon
[18:52] <MaskedDriver> IonutB, my last bit of thought... uninstall and reinstall flash
[18:53] <thiebaude> Lint01, i'am not sure about that one
[18:53] <colblood> my usb drive doesnt automount all of a sudden, what could be the cause? i have to do sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/BLAHBLAH
[18:53] <thiebaude> !ati
[18:53] <Lint01> I fail to see how the bit-depth indication can be hardware-specific
[18:53] <sczgilae> !ati
[18:53] <colblood> running ubuntu 8.10 btw
[18:53] <LogicalDash> colblood, the service for automounting is called FUSE, might want to check it out?
[18:54] <colblood> ok, dunno where to go from there tho
[18:55] <purplefool> has anyone ever encountered a boot menu before the one listed in menu.lst?  how can i get rid of it or influence the selection order?
[18:56] <mlissner> LogicalDash: Well, at least there's a bug about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse/+bug/228876
[18:56] <yonderboy> the best compression so far has been with gzip
[18:56] <yonderboy> tar czf beat tar cjf
[18:57] <Mka> `purplefool: are you dual booting with other OS like windows?
[18:57] <Mka> purplefool: are you dual booting with other OS like windows?
[18:57] <yonderboy> then when I tried to tar a tar and then gzip it, the extra tarring only made the gzip file bigger
[18:57] <purplefool> Mka, yes i am...winxp media.
[18:58] <hough> i am having trouble setting up internet connection sharing in ubuntu. are there any applications that make this any easier?
[18:58] <Mka> purplefool: which "first" menu are you talking about then?
[18:58] <fccf> brutus: I think what you actually need to boot into windows and have windows run chkdsk /f on the drive ... If windows improperly shutdown ntfs-3g will not mount it
[18:59] <Mka> yonderboy, why would you try to archive an archive?
[18:59] <purplefool> Mka, that is just it.  i have found no documentation for it.  it is a simple 2-choice menu with winxp media edition first and then ubuntu.  i want the order reversed and cannot seem to find anyone with the same menu.
[18:59] <Huston> so anyone know awhy my network can't discover my computers rtunning ubuntu?
[19:00] <MaskedDriver> Mka, cause I told him to lol
[19:00] <brutus> fccf, i get a 'disk read error' when I try to boot into windows..
[19:00] <MaskedDriver> Mka, yonderboy it appears sarcasm is lost over the IRCness
[19:00] <fccf> brutus: windows recovery console
[19:00] <Huston> brutus use safe mode
[19:01] <root> hi
[19:01] <hough> are there any applications for ubuntu that help you set up internet connection sharing?
[19:01] <brutus> fccf, I should probably add that to my grub.
[19:01] <hiffy> hey dudes
[19:01] <Mka> purplefool: pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" for me as well as "sudo cat /etc/fstab"
[19:02] <hiffy> ubuntu server 9.04 - vim is not in the path/there is no vim-full anymore
[19:02] <hiffy> wtf?
[19:02] <alabd_> Good day everyone , hsfconfig process stoped cause of this problem > http://paste.ubuntu.com/283019/ ,any opinion ?
[19:02] <sebsebseb> !language |  hiffy
[19:02] <hiffy> says vim-common and vim-tiny are already installed
[19:02] <alabd_> Is there any free 56kb/s hsf modem driver for kernel 2.6.28
[19:02] <fccf> brutus: windows recovery console from windows install disk
[19:02] <Huston> brutus: can you force tyhe windows partition to mount from ubuntu's file manager?
[19:02] <sebsebseb> hiffy: #ubuntu-server may be a better channel for your issue
[19:03] <brutus> Huston, I am able to force mount it, but it shows up as empty...when I actually have 250 gigs of data on it..
[19:03] <Lint01> hough, no of course
[19:03] <hiffy> thanks, sebsebseb
[19:03] <purplefool> Mka, ok, did the commands and would like to know where to post them for you...
[19:04] <brutus> Huston, fccf this error started when I tried to reboot after windows had hibernated....
[19:04] <Mka> purplefool: sorry I have to leave now but do this. if you are logged on your Ubuntu now, then "sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda"
[19:04] <purplefool> Mka, with 2 dashes?
[19:04] <MaskedDriver> purplefool, yes 2 dashes ftw
[19:04] <Mka> purplefool: you have to figure out whether your ubuntu is on "sda" "hda" "hdb" "sdb" or what
[19:04] <hough> figures...thanks anyway
[19:05] <Mka> purplefool: yes "--recheck"
[19:06] <purplefool> it says that the grub/stage1 was not read correctly...is that bad?
[19:06] <Mka> purplefool: yes that is bad
[19:06] <Huston> brutus, well then i'm not sure what to do. sorry.
[19:07] <purplefool> you see, those are the kinds of things that make a thursday evening bad...would just like to hear 'oh no, everything is just plain huncky-dory!'
[19:07] <Mka> purplefool: purplefool: not leaving anymore before this is done. type "rdev" on terminal and tell me what you see
[19:07] <brutus> Huston, np, thanks
[19:08] <sczgilae> hello, excuse me but i have the same problem i told yesterday. i have an script that mounts a shared network directory but cannot mount because konsola sais that must be root to mount. But i dont understand because if i mount using dolphin i have not problems, http://pastebin.com/d32befe57   , any ideas?
[19:08] <Nattgew> is there a way to make archive files automatically extract instead of opening in the archive manager?
[19:08] <purplefool> Mka, /dev/loop0 but the 0 has a dot in the middle...
[19:09] <euxneks> purplefool: that means it's a zero
[19:09] <purplefool> Mka, oh, i see that my computer just doesn't print it correctly when i type...sorry
[19:09] <torn> Is it normal for the system to hang/freeze a bit when it has a mount pointed to a disconnected CIFS share?
[19:10] <Mka> purplefool: I like your description, LOL. now type "ls /" and copy and paste on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:10] <kansan> if i have ubuntu hardy installed such that /root/ is on one partition and /home/ is on another... and i want to move to jaunty... i was thinking of: 1) booting from jaunty live cd; 2) blowing away the /root/ partition, and reformat it.  3) use the existing /home/ partition in the new installation.  does this sound reasonable?
[19:10] <torn> In other words, I created a share on a CIFS server, but if I power-off or disconnect the server, Ubuntu, openSUSE, etc, start freezing up when opening Nautilus or accessing the /mnt directory with a terminal.
[19:11] <Mka> purplefool: it seems as there is something wrong with your system, I am not sure whats up
[19:11] <Mka> purplefool: are you using a live CD?
[19:11] <torn> kansan, technically that should work. Unless you have specific/customer files and scripts in your / partition right now.
[19:11] <bastidrazor> kansan: you could if you use a different username.. if not you'll need to rename the /home/username to something other than what you're going to use
[19:11] <purplefool> Mka, it has been pasted under my name
[19:11] <n8tuser> torn yes thats common,  look for articles that says similar to nfs mounts while remote is disconnected
[19:11] <torn> *custom
[19:11] <euxneks> is there a kde equivalent to gksudo?
[19:11] <zizo> Hi all!! Today i've noticed that if i do a "echo test | mail" it tells me "No mail for current user". So i think i can set it, but how? Tnx
[19:11] <purplefool> Mka, no, is a full install.  windows was first and then ubuntu
[19:12] <Mka> purplefool: paste the web link  here
[19:12] <geos64> what to do next fccf
[19:12] <Travis-42> which is the ubuntu channel for discussing testing versions?
[19:12] <torn> n8tuser, I looked around for an option to bypass this problem (for example, just give an error message instead of freezing up) but I found no such thing.
[19:12] <purplefool> Mka, http://paste.ubuntu.com/283195/
[19:12] <kansan> bastidrazor, why cant i use the same /home/username ?
[19:12] <Lama_Chok> Does anyone knows a SAFE method to mount fat32 or ntfs partition through terminal
[19:12] <kansan> bastidrazor, and what do i need to do now to make sure i can still have /home/david
[19:12] <Nattgew> Travis-42: #ubuntu+1
[19:12] <n8tuser> torn-> google for nfs mounts, they have similar issues for remote not ready..  they may have similar solutions
[19:12] <Travis-42> thanks Nattgew
[19:12] <bastidrazor> kansan: for example /home/bob  ..if your new install is going to have user bob then you'll need to rename /home/bob to /home/bob-backup .. then you will still have all the data..
[19:13] <bastidrazor> kansan: the config files need to be for jaunty..
[19:13] <euxneks> sczgilae: http://pastebin.com/m63bdae2e  you probably need to mount as root. try http://pastebin.com/m63bdae2e
[19:13] <torn> n8tuser, I'm checking them out right now. But for the most part (and this is true in the past) all I could find were problems, but no solutions, heh.
[19:13] <Mka> purplefool: now paste me the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[19:13] <euxneks> sczgilae: I don't know what the kde equivalent is to gksudo so you may need to edit it a bit
[19:13] <kansan> bastidrazor, so just "mv /home/david/ /home/david-backup"  then later, copy over all the files into the installation created /home/david ?
[19:13] <bastidrazor> kansan: exactly.
[19:13] <len> HI, can anyone explain why when I use $ iwconfig wlan0 essid "ihaaaa" enc "xxxxxx" I get the following error? Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[19:14] <geos64> i jist reboted
[19:14] <purplefool> Mka, http://paste.ubuntu.com/283197/
[19:14] <torn> kansan, to play it safe, make a backup of everything in /home to a USB or external drive. Never hurts to play it safe. Then when you install Jaunty, you can tell it to use the whatever # partition as /home (without formatting) and you should be good to go.
[19:14] <bastidrazor> kansan: not all the files just the files you need. none of the config files for applications since they are different version in jaunty than hardy
[19:14] <euxneks> sczgilae: that's a shot in the dark though
[19:14] <kansan> tomaw, i already made a backup ;p
[19:14] <luis_> holas
[19:14] <ctmjr> len what is enc?
[19:14] <torn> kansan, if you screw up or accidentally format the partition, you will have a backup copy on another drive/external.
[19:14] <n8tuser> len the enc may not be supported by your driver?  look a iwspy or iwpriv commands and it may tell you same
[19:14] <luis_> ...................
[19:15] <kansan> tom good suggestion
[19:15] <romswift> hum
[19:15] <koofie> wow, brainfreeze, whats the name of the command that shows last time file modified, read etc?
[19:15] <bastidrazor> !es | luis_
[19:15] <Mka> purplefool: i've never seen something like this before
[19:15] <bastidrazor> koofie: ls -al
[19:15] <Lama_Chok> i heard fdisk is pretty risky command,.....
[19:15] <koofie> no, not ls
[19:15] <luis_> gracias
[19:16] <Trizicus> when i try to do 'sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun I get all of these errors. http://pastebin.com/m70c87e9c
[19:16] <Mka> purplefool: I mean you have NTFS only, no ext2 or ext3 for Ubuntu
[19:16] <purplefool> Mka, good to know that even on computers i am considered a non-conformist...just wish it wasn't so.  what did i do wrong?
[19:16] <koofie> checks the three modes, last viewed, last modified, last changed
[19:16] <Lama_Chok> no i have both ntfs and fat32 for windows... just ext3 for ubuntu
[19:16] <Mka> purplefool: this means that ubuntu is NOT on your hard drive
[19:17] <purplefool> Mka, really? that was not supposed to happen, but i guess i was worried i would loose stuff in windows and didn't want to mess with the file system...
[19:17] <koofie> stat, it came back to me :0
[19:17] <Mka> purplefool: are you sure you are not running ubuntu from  a CD?
[19:17] <Lama_Chok> so is there any safe bet.....
[19:17] <purplefool> Mka, wait...huh?  confused here...how do i get to umbuntu then?  i am booted into it right now and use it all the time
[19:17] <sczgilae> euxneks: thks for reply, ksudo dont exists in kubuntu, mmmm, normal users are not sudoers, what can i do
[19:18] <purplefool> Mka, absolutely.
[19:18] <Lama_Chok> i m positive i have installed ubuntu
[19:18] <wildc4rd> evening all
[19:18] <Napalm_Penguin> anybody wanna answer a dumb question?
[19:18] <ctmjr> sczgilae: try kdesudo
[19:18] <koofie> its only dumb if you dont ask it
[19:18] <koofie> or until we giggle
[19:18] <Napalm_Penguin> where does java install to?
[19:18] <Mka> purplefool: bear with me, paste the output of "df -h" and that of "sudo cat /etc/fstab"
[19:19] <torn> Is there a way to create a script that can be executed by a normal user (not in the /etc/sudoers file) but runs with root privelges? Example: Executing the script makes a directory in the user's home and then mounts a location/device/partition to this directory?
[19:20] <purplefool> Mka, http://paste.ubuntu.com/283202/ for sudo cat
[19:20] <Lama_Chok> ankur BIET
[19:20] <bastidrazor> Mka: you don't need sudo to use cat.. also you can use pasatebinit to paste an entire file. you'll need to install it though. sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:20] <sczgilae> ctmjr: kdesudo: unknown option «o»
[19:20] <Trizicus> Why is it that Runescape lags so badly on Ubuntu even when you're using suns plugin?
[19:20] <purplefool> Mka, http://paste.ubuntu.com/283204/ for df -h
[19:20] <johnwm> how is the best way to mount a linux os on my hp pavilion and keep windows vista
[19:21] <johnwm> i have an extra hd rive tray
[19:21] <johnwm> drive tray
[19:21] <Napalm_Penguin> flash drive?
[19:21] <purplefool> Mka, so does this mean that i should redo the drive with ext3 or so?
[19:22] <torn> Trizicus, isn't Runscape Flash, not Java?
[19:22] <johnwm> please private me for discussion
[19:22] <bastidrazor> !dualboot | johnwm
[19:22] <ctmjr> sczgilae: try kdesu have not used kde in a while
[19:22] <Napalm_Penguin> does anybody know where java installs, like the file path
[19:23] <Napalm_Penguin> plzzz
[19:23] <paul___> hi, can someone tell me how I can configure apache so that its local access only?
[19:23] <Mka> purplefool: how did you install Ubuntu?
[19:23] <colblood> locate java
[19:23] <colblood> ?
[19:23]  * Napalm_Penguin bangs head on desk
[19:23] <del_diablo> Napalm_Penguin: how did you install java?
[19:23] <paul___> Napalm_Penguin: whereis java
[19:23] <purplefool> Mka, from the liveCD with very little knowledge...
[19:23] <Napalm_Penguin> dunno cmd line
[19:24] <Mka> purplefool: you inserted the live CD while you were on Windows?
[19:24] <purplefool> Mka, no, booted from it and started up the desktop and installed from there.
[19:24] <trece8> How do I get my JACK latency to a minimum avoiding XRUNS ( with the limits.conf already configured and the rt kernel too)?
[19:24] <Napalm_Penguin> rpm file
[19:25] <trece8> I when I try to get the latency down to 11 ms , it has an XRUN each 24 seconds!
[19:25] <torn> Napalm_Penguin, somewhere in /usr/lib/jvm I believe.
[19:25] <larsemil> i am trying to get the proggy fonts into my system, i have downloaded them and ran fc-cache -f -v and the folder whows up. but i cant choose the font from xfontsel which i would want. any ideas?
[19:25] <del_diablo> Napalm_Penguin: I asked a question. HOW?! sudo apt-get or ????
[19:25] <Napalm_Penguin> ?_?
[19:26] <Napalm_Penguin> thx torn
[19:26] <eihwaz> hey
[19:26] <Mka> purplefool: this installation is probably not good. It looks like you have no partition for ubuntu and uses a a file in NTFS partion for your ubuntu
[19:26] <torn> Napalm_Penguin, but I am using the proprietary Sun Java, not the opensource version.
[19:26] <Mka> purplefool: then Windows load Ubuntu for you
[19:26]  * genii sips and thinks about the wrongness of java install from rpm on a deb packaged system
[19:26] <eihwaz> pleaz, i wanna know if there are one version of chrome webrowser for ubuntu?
[19:27] <linxeh> torn: good man
[19:27] <sebsebseb> !chrome |  eihwaz
[19:27] <lizzzy> Ok. So my microphone is getting detected as headphones. Installed pulseaudio and everything. No improvement :(
[19:27] <eihwaz> !chrome
[19:27] <eihwaz> O_O
[19:27] <purplefool> Mka, alright, this means that i should reinstall it?  and i should create a partition for umuntu with ext3?
[19:27] <Mka> purplefool: that is why "grub-install" failed to install grub to the MBR and that is also why "rdev" returns /dev/loop0
[19:27] <Mka> purplefool: yes
[19:27] <eihwaz> sebsebseb, hap me
[19:28] <sebsebseb> eihwaz: I think  there isn't a  stable final version of Google Chrome for Linux yet, but that there is one  in development.   There is Chromeium for Linux though, which Chrome is based on.
[19:28] <trece8> !linux-rt
[19:28] <purplefool> %$$&$"§%$%/)()&==%$"§$%&§$&%/%/(=)=!!!!!
[19:28] <trece8> Is there some chat room for sound stuff on linux??
[19:28] <eihwaz> Ty :) i'll look for it, sebsebseb
[19:28] <linxeh> trece8: #lau
[19:28] <trece8> thanks linxeh
[19:28] <sebsebseb> eihwaz: Plus Chromeium unlike Chrome, has the advantage of being open source
[19:28] <Mka> purplefool: sorry. but you can use ubuntu like that if you are not deep in ubuntu
[19:29] <purplefool> Mka, ok, that is the info that i needed.  thx for your help and i will be thinking about doint what you say soon.
[19:29] <sebsebseb> eihwaz: ok np
[19:29] <Mka> purplefool: ok, I have to leave now.
[19:29] <alkamid> I'm experiencing some troubles with cpu scaling - could anyone help? I have the "thing" in panel, but setting "ondemand" / whatever doesnt' work
[19:29] <alkamid> it just stays 2.2 GHz all the time
[19:29] <purplefool> Mka, have fallen in love with ubuntu and now find that windows is even worse than i thought...and i am not a good installer!  thx though!
[19:30] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: Well at least it's being detected, some people get right sound issues with Ubuntu
[19:30] <trece8> how can I check what applications are using sound resources via the command line?
[19:30] <xiong> Um. When I press Alt-F2 I get a Terminal window, which is what I want. But I don't remember setting that up. Yet when I attempt the same from an unconfigured account, I get a little "run" window instead. What did I do?
[19:30] <seil> Hello, firefox slows my netbook in ubuntu, any alternatives?
[19:30] <sebsebseb> !browser |  seil
[19:30] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: But its still not right.
[19:31] <sczgilae> ctmjr: kdeu command dont exists.    :-(
[19:31] <morguaii> could someone help me with wget, trying to figure out how to crawl all the links i have on a site and only spit out the links without any other garbage
[19:31] <fccf> alkamid: really good how to here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248867
[19:31] <ctmjr> !sudo
[19:32] <alkamid> fccf: thanks but I just can't get the acpi-cpufreq module
[19:32] <Lazy> hi, upgrading from jaunty to karmic beta fails with the following error: Exception during pm.DoInstall(): E:Couldn't configure pre-depend openoffice.org-core for openoffice-filter-binfilter, probably a dependency cycle.
[19:32] <Lazy> anyone know how i should proceed?
[19:32] <alkamid> fccf: I remember following it in Hardy/Intrepid times and it worked, but not now
[19:32] <sebsebseb> Lazy: better to wait untill the final really also #ubuntu+1 for Karmic
[19:32] <ctmjr> !kdesudo
[19:33] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: Unfortunatly I can't help you
[19:33] <ctmjr> sczgilae: see above
[19:33] <Lazy> k, i will ask from ubuntu+1
[19:33] <xiong> I don't even know what realm to search for this. Where do keyboard shortcuts to launch stuff come from?
[19:33] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: Ah. Well, thanks for trying :)
[19:34] <beagleburt> G'day from New Zealand everyone. Suddenly can NOT dial out -(56kdialup) - Both Gnome Dialer & wvdial return Error #2 when pppd crashes (1x second after connecting). BUT "pon" works ok - am using it now - any advice - anyone?
[19:34] <xiong> It is not "Commands" in Compiz. I don't even have that enabled.
[19:34] <shane2peru> I know little about embedded videos, but I can't play the ones on tangle.com?  any ideas as to why?
[19:35] <shane2peru> I do have flash installed
[19:35] <sebsebseb> !dialup |  beagleburt
[19:35] <shane2peru> I'm working on Jaunty 64bit
[19:35] <Huston> can anyone tell me how to set up my windows OS computers to be able to discover my ubuntu based computers?
[19:35] <soreau> xiong: Sys>prefs>keyboard shortcuts
[19:35] <sebsebseb> !samba |  Huston
[19:36]  * xiong looks
[19:36] <sczgilae> !kdesudo
[19:36] <acr0nym> !offtopic
[19:36] <beagleburt> sebsebseb: Thankyou - will check out link...see you later
[19:36] <shane2peru> ok, I can't play youtube videos either, what is used for that stuff?  flash? java?
[19:37] <xiong> soreau, that's it. Thank you. Before I tried the same keystroke in an unconfigured account, you could have stood me up against the wall and pointed a gun at my head; I would have said I never set that feature.
[19:37] <sczgilae> ctmjr: cant do kdesu mount .....     however, a normal user is not sudoer ...
[19:37] <sebsebseb> beagleburt: good luck
[19:37] <defineyourmorals> shane2peru that is flash
[19:37] <shane2peru> defineyourmorals: thanks, I will take it from here. :)
[19:38] <soreau> xiong: np
[19:38] <fccf> !flash | shane2peru
[19:38] <geos64> fccf i dont it and nothig happnd
[19:38] <nostalgicBadger> any thoughts on making the jump to Slackware? I might miss apt, but I'd probably live
[19:39] <geos64> it still the same
[19:39] <seil> Hello... if am using ubuntu in virtualbox as guest and its very very slow, are there other ubuntu products to use? will it be any better?
[19:39] <sebsebseb> !ot |  nostalgicBadger
[19:39] <nostalgicBadger> lol ok, just asking
[19:39] <shane2peru> fccf: thanks, I think I have a double install of my flash though, I'm going to purge it and re-install, just wasn't sure which app to track down.
[19:39] <sebsebseb> seil: hmm Ubuntu in Virtualbox with Windows as host?
[19:39] <seil> sebsebseb yes
[19:39] <GONZALEZR> When installing Ubuntu, the installation gets stuck at 88%. Why is that
[19:39] <GONZALEZR> ?
[19:39] <sebsebseb> nostalgicBadger: also ##linux could be good for that question, and Slackware is more complex
[19:40]  * thiebaude you'll nee anti-virus
[19:40] <thiebaude> need
[19:40] <sebsebseb> seil: oh dear
[19:40] <shane2peru> when installing ubuntu on a Celeron with only 500mb ram it took an extremely long time, is that normal?  I usually install on my computers which are a step up from that.
[19:40] <seil> sebsebseb :(
[19:40] <sebsebseb> seil: Windows as the host OS :(  I hope this is only for getting a feel for Ubuntu
[19:40] <sebsebseb> seil: how much RAM do you have?
[19:40] <thiebaude> shane2peru, 500 is good enough
[19:41] <nostalgicBadger> running Linux within Windows kind of defeats the purpose... of Linux
[19:41] <seil> sebsebseb 1gb
[19:41] <firecrotch> shane2peru: define "extremely long time"?
[19:41] <sebsebseb> nostalgicBadger: indeed
[19:41] <nostalgicBadger> you could just emulate Bash in Windows
[19:41] <shane2peru> thiebaude: yes, but it took a few hours, I'm used to 30min installs <- firecrotch
[19:41] <nostalgicBadger> if you really want Bash. Otherwise, I'm not sure what you'd be looking for
[19:41] <seil> sebsebseb and am using a netbook ! lol
[19:41] <thiebaude> shane2peru, yea, way too long
[19:41] <firecrotch> shane2peru: a few hours is definitely longer than normal
[19:41] <sebsebseb> seil: Maybe that's why it's slow then
[19:42] <nostalgicBadger> seil - which netbook?
[19:42] <Diaz> hi, i was hoping someone could help me with starting my os ubuntu from the shell. Cause it starts up in the dos like shell. Ubuntu 8.4 server edition i think.
[19:42] <seil> nostalgicBadger 1005ha eeepc
[19:42] <firecrotch> shane2peru: I mean, yeah it'll take a *little* longer, but not that much longer
[19:42] <sebsebseb> seil: would be better probably to put it on for real,  but in that case  may as well wait until 9.10, released on October 29th.  also #vbox can probably help you
[19:42] <shane2peru> firecrotch: thiebaude well I wasn't here for the whole process, because I had to leave, but came back an hour later, and it was still plugging away, that computer will probably come back to me. :)
[19:42] <thiebaude> seidos, most netbooks you can upgrade to 2gb
[19:42] <thiebaude> shane2peru, you using live cd?
[19:42] <nostalgicBadger> seil - is that the one with the ssd?
[19:42] <seil> sebsebseb why wait for 9.10?
[19:43] <shane2peru> thiebaude: I used USB for that one, Jaunty
[19:43] <thiebaude> oh ok
[19:43] <firecrotch> Diaz: That's all you get by default with Ubuntu Server Edition.  If you want a desktop environment, use the Desktop install CD
[19:43] <geos64> fccf nothing happnd yet
[19:43] <seil> nostalgicBadger 160gb hd
[19:43] <seidos> thiebaude: netbook comment was probably meant for someone else, but that's cool.  2gb of ram?
[19:43] <shane2peru> thiebaude: is USB slower?
[19:43] <thiebaude> seidos, no it was for you
[19:43] <nostalgicBadger> i wouldn't wait for 9.10. you've got a better chance of the current (stable) release doing what it needs to do.
[19:43] <thiebaude> shane2peru, i never did the usb install
[19:43] <defineyourmorals> i have a problem with installing the python-opengl package.  i'm running ubuntu studio 9.04.  i run the command sudo apt-get install python-opengl and get the output Compiling /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/OpenGL/raw/GL/__init__.py ...
[19:43] <defineyourmorals> Sorry: TypeError: ('compile() expected string without null bytes',)
[19:43] <defineyourmorals> pycentral: pycentral pkginstall: error byte-compiling files (763)
[19:43] <defineyourmorals> pycentral pkginstall: error byte-compiling files (763)
[19:43] <defineyourmorals> dpkg: error processing python-opengl (--configure):
[19:43] <FloodBot1> defineyourmorals: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <defineyourmorals>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[19:44] <GONZALEZR> Is there any way to get help for Ubuntu on a personal level?
[19:44] <sebsebseb> seil: a few reasons
[19:44] <sebsebseb> GONZALEZR: meaning?
[19:44] <almostAg33k>  can anyone tell me why,when i run diablo II not on a virtual desktop it crashes
[19:44] <seil> sebsebseb performance reasons?
[19:44] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, how much ram do you have?
[19:44] <shane2peru> thiebaude: well, guess I will find out later if there was problems, I also installed ext4, but was a bit nervous, they had a WD hdd, which I heard here, that WD and ext4 have issues together
[19:44] <GONZALEZR> Without all this rubbish.
[19:44] <seidos> thiebaude: I don't have a netbook
[19:44] <almostAg33k> 512mb
[19:44] <thiebaude> shane2peru, you'll be ok with ext4
[19:45] <sebsebseb> seil: Ext4  is default in 9.10 :)  it's not in 9.04 it's optional, but not perfectly stable.   plus upgrading takes time,  or doing another re install. and so on
[19:45] <nostalgicBadger> seil - i have an aspire one with the 160gb - a lot of the parts are the same. you should be fine removing windows and running Ubuntu as your primary OS.
[19:45] <thiebaude> seidos, my bad
[19:45] <almostAg33k> thiebaude but it ran fine on the PC when i was using xp
[19:45] <thopiekar> hi
[19:45] <shane2peru> ok, thanks for the info thiebaude
[19:45] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, i hear that alot,lol
[19:45] <seil> sebsebseb do you think if I use kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu it would be better for me?
[19:45] <thiebaude> shane2peru, np
[19:45] <seidos> thiebaude: nothing against them though, the new ones are nice
[19:45] <sebsebseb> seil: you can have all of those in an Ubuntu install
[19:45] <firecrotch> GONZALEZR: we typically prefer to give support here in the channel so that others can chime in with their advice
[19:45] <seidos> hey sebsebseb
[19:46] <sebsebseb> seil: well maybe lubuntu isn't in the repo I don't know, I haven't done it
[19:46] <seil> sebsebseb would I get better performance with the other products?
[19:46] <nostalgicBadger> seil - doesn't matter. the onyl difference is the GUI. you can install the others and switch between them if you find that GNOME is not for you.
[19:46] <seidos> sebsebseb, seil:  you can try out lxde by typing sudo apt-get install lxde
[19:46] <pratik_narain> can somebody help me on sharing internet connection b/w ubuntu and win vista using ethernet cable.
[19:46] <sebsebseb> seidos: hi
[19:46] <almostAg33k> thiebaude: last night i was in the winehq room and some one told me that its my xserver crashing
[19:46] <nostalgicBadger> also, I would strongly recommend creating a separate partition for /home in case you decide to switch distros.
[19:46] <thiebaude> seidos, by the end of 2010 netbooks will a larger markey share
[19:46] <thiebaude> market
[19:46] <GONZALEZR> I see. Well why does the installation freeze on 88% when imorting my Windows documents and settings?
[19:46] <thopiekar> got some problems on karmic getting two old packages removed... linux-backports-modules-2.6.31-10-generic and software-store (!= software-center)
[19:46] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, ahh, ok
[19:46] <defineyourmorals> shane2peru, with your flash issue, what distro/architecture are you using?
[19:47] <seidos> thiebaude: maybe i'll try netbook remix in a virtual machine
[19:47] <almostAg33k> thiebaude: so you familliar?
[19:47] <seil> thiebaude but why are you saying that?
[19:47] <thopiekar> is here the right place for problems somebody get on karmic?
[19:47] <sebsebseb> seil: well it's a netbook, so the hardware won't be that great,  if Virtualbox is still bad, after doing a bit more RAM and Video memory, or whatever #vbox suggest.   you could try VMware player or server, and even  Microsoft Virtualpc hmm
[19:47] <seidos> thiebaude: do you have a netbook?
[19:47] <shane2peru> defineyourmorals: working on Jaunty 64bit, going to use this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259102
[19:47] <thiebaude> seidos, not me
[19:47] <firecrotch> thopiekar: #ubuntu+1
[19:47] <thopiekar> thanks firecrotch :)
[19:48] <thopiekar> see you soon
[19:48] <seidos> thiebaude: what kind of system do you have?
[19:48] <skyn3t> .jpg
[19:48] <defineyourmorals> shane2peru: i have a working fix for jaunty 64. works great with firefox
[19:48] <sebsebseb> seil: I  would avoide Microsoft Virtualpc :)  ,but maybe on that netbook it would be better than the others
[19:48] <geos64> well thanks for help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:48] <shane2peru> defineyourmorals: I'm open, I don't use flash a lot, but had uploaded a video to tangle, and wanted to see it, and I can't. lol
[19:48] <sebsebseb> geos64: hmm
[19:48] <thiebaude> seidos, amd dual core 32bit or 64bit 2gb ram nvidia 8400 gs with 512mb video lanparty nf4 160gb hd
[19:49] <thiebaude> opteron
[19:49] <nostalgicBadger> I still don't understand running Linux from within Windows... it's only going to be as stable as Windows, and you could always just run a live disk instead
[19:49] <almostAg33k> thiebaude: could it be that i am not using a grafix card? just the onboard?
[19:49] <seidos> thiebaude: dang 512mb of video ram?
[19:49] <shane2peru> defineyourmorals: however when I checked my plugins, I have two flash versions installed, 10r22 and 10rxx something else
[19:49] <geos64> it did not help me :-(
[19:49] <thiebaude> seidos, i better stay ontopic
[19:49] <seil> sebsebseb bought the laptop 2 weeks ago and it had preinstalled windowsxp didnt want to mess with it as am not pro in linux yet
[19:49] <thiebaude> seidos, yes
[19:49] <defineyourmorals> shane2peru: it's a simple .deb with an install script, i can email it to you if you want, there's a remove script for older versions
[19:49] <r3za> hi guys , how can i install icon pack in ubuntu jaunty ?
[19:49] <r3za> +
[19:50] <MenZa> r3za: System -> Preferences -> Appearance is probably what you want.
[19:50] <pratik_narain> can somebody help me on sharing internet connection b/w ubuntu and win vista using ethernet cable.
[19:50] <nostalgicBadger> seil: make a live disk on a thumb drive and try it out that way. if you don't like it, pop out the drive and you've got windows back
[19:50] <shane2peru> defineyourmorals: will it clean out all my previous flashes?
[19:50] <sebsebseb> seil: nostalgicBadger  has a point you can try a Live CD,  but right it's a netbook, so you don't even have a CD drive right?  well  you can do Ubuntu from USB
[19:50] <eric_> can anyone recommend a good general help chat or help me with a partitioning problem?
[19:50] <thiebaude> seidos, you know what the first thing i did when i got the computer?
[19:50] <shane2peru> defineyourmorals: can you just post the script?  via pastebin I can copy it and paste it that way
[19:50] <seidos> thiebaude: installed ubuntu?
[19:50] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, which graphics card
[19:50] <sebsebseb> eric_: I can probaby help depending on the issue which is?
[19:50] <janisoza1r> how do i list file's timestamp in unix time format?
[19:50] <thiebaude> seidos, yes
[19:50] <sebsebseb> !usb | seil
[19:50] <suhasa> how to install vlc by using terminal
[19:51] <seidos> thiebaude: same
[19:51] <r3za> MenZa: yes , and customize > icon , but there isn't any add button
[19:51] <eric_> sebsebseb: i installed ubuntu, and somehow my main windows partition became part of an extended partition
[19:51] <nostalgicBadger> no CD drive in the netbook -- at least not in my Aspire one, and I don't believe his has one either -- but flash drives work great.
[19:51] <sebsebseb> suhasa: sudo apt-get install vlc
[19:51] <Pici> janisoza1r: stat filename
[19:51] <almostAg33k> its an older dell... so i would think an intel?
[19:51] <seil> nostalgicBadger i used it for 3 days in vbox its sort of good but when i open firefox it gets too slow
[19:51] <benc> is there an odbc driver for sqlite on ubuntu?
[19:51] <MenZa> r3za: Try dragging the tarball into the window.
[19:51] <eric_> sebsebseb: now when I attempt to start windows in gives a "Cannot find hal.dll" error and I assume that's why
[19:51] <r3za> MenZa: nope , its not work
[19:51] <sebsebseb> seil: probably, because it's running in a virtual machine, plus  some of us get issues like that with FIrefox in Ubuntu
[19:51] <seidos> how much do IBM, HP, Dell, Toshiba pay for a license of windows?
[19:51] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, which dell?
[19:51] <MenZa> r3za: Interesting. I don't have an Ubuntu box at hand, so I can't test it myself. :( Sorry.
[19:52] <MenZa> seidos: Good question. Probably offtopic for this channel too.
[19:52] <sebsebseb> !ot |  seidos
[19:52] <r3za> MenZa: np , thanks anyway
[19:52] <Aggrav8d> hi, jquery!
[19:52] <asterisk888> hello
[19:52] <sebsebseb> seidos: I guess ##windows is a good place for that question
[19:52] <nostalgicBadger> Firefox is bloated anyway, almost unusably, as of 3.0. I'm running epiphany now.
[19:52] <geos64> PLEAS HELP ME TO FIX  MY SREEN SIZE TO 1024X768
[19:52] <alkamid> something's changing my cpu scaling preference from ondemand (set by cpufreq-set) to performance - any idea what it might be?
[19:52] <sebsebseb> !caps |  geos64
[19:52] <janisoza1r> Pici: using %Y as format?
[19:52] <MenZa> geos64: THERE IS NO NEED TO SHOUT! You're hurting my ears here. :(
[19:52] <r3za> hi guys , how can i install icon pack in ubuntu jaunty ?
[19:52] <Aggrav8d> suppose I can't put my $(function()) {} in the <head>.  Can I put it in the <body> and still expect it to run at the right time?
[19:52] <sebsebseb> !patience |  geos64
[19:52] <suhasa> Thank You
[19:52] <eric_> any ideas?
[19:53] <The_Dead_91> hi guys
[19:53] <Pici> janisoza1r: no. Its in seconds from the unix epoch
[19:53] <tyler_d> I cannot sign onto msn using pidgin... msn: Connection error from Notification server (gateway.messenger.hotmail.com): Reading error is the error from the logs?
[19:53] <seil> nostalgicBadger I'll give that a try
[19:53] <almostAg33k> thiebaude: i have no clue, all i know is its a dell. desktop about 6-8 years old
[19:53] <sebsebseb> tyler_d: sometimes MSN goes wrong in Pidgin
[19:53] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, optiplex?
[19:54] <r3za> hi guys , how can i install icon pack in ubuntu jaunty ?
[19:54] <almostAg33k> thiebaude: i dont know what that is
[19:54] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, ok
[19:54] <janisoza1r> Pici: well, since i want to know it in unix time format, i guess that's it? or am i wrong?
[19:54] <nostalgicBadger> r3za - ~/.icons
[19:54] <tyler_d> sebsebseb: I have tried with amsn, kopete as well... and from a diff machine
[19:54] <sebsebseb> tyler_d: ok did those work?
[19:54] <alkamid> something's changing my cpu scaling preference from ondemand (set by cpufreq-set) to performance - any idea what it might be?
[19:54] <geos64> Im siting this chat room 6 hour and i got no help heree
[19:55] <tyler_d> sebsebseb: I am just re-adding the account, none of those worked... as well I re-installed (removing the .purple folder)
[19:55] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  My boot splash is currently the default Kubuntu one.  I'd like to make it the *Ubuntu* one.  How do I go about this?
[19:55] <jonaskoelker> I uninstalled the relevant usplash package (kubuntu-artwork-usplash, IIRC)... why's the kubuntu art still there?
[19:55] <sebsebseb> !atittude |  geos64
[19:55] <eric_> alright so is there anywhere else I should look?
[19:55] <Pici> janisoza1r: Yep, thats it.
[19:55] <sebsebseb> !atitude |  geos64
[19:55] <sebsebseb> hmm
[19:55] <thiebaude> !attitude
[19:55] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: ty
[19:55] <nostalgicBadger> r3za - if whomever made the icon pack happened to make it with linux in mind, you can just drop the folder to .icons in your home directory.
[19:55] <janisoza1r> Pici: thanks
[19:55] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, np, man
[19:55] <jonaskoelker> geos64: I can sympathize
[19:56] <geos64> HOW CAN I HAVE patience]
[19:56] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: second time today that I got the spelling wrong for a factoid like that, odd
[19:56] <firecrotch> geos64: What is your current screen resolution?
[19:56] <jonaskoelker> geos64: I've asked ~five different questions in here today, got no answers
[19:56] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, i use to do the one t
[19:56] <geos64> IM IN 6 HOUR
[19:56] <geos64> DAMIT
[19:56] <sebsebseb> !atitude |  geos64
[19:56] <nostalgicBadger> if nobody knows the answer, or if you're not giving anyone enough information to answer your question, what do you expect? nobody here is getting paid.
[19:56] <janisoza1r> !caps | geos64
[19:56] <thiebaude> geos, hang in there if someone has an answer they glad to answer
[19:56] <sebsebseb> geos64: people here are volunters
[19:57] <sebsebseb> geos64: as far as I know no one is being paid to do this
[19:57] <tyler_d> geos64: what was the question please?
[19:57] <firecrotch> geos64: I understand that you are trying to set your screen resolution to 1024x768.  What is it currently set to?
[19:57] <geos64> I WHANT TO FIX MY SREEN SIZE
[19:57] <geos64> 1024x768
[19:57] <sebsebseb> geos64: Which card?
[19:57] <nostalgicBadger> !caps | geos64
[19:57] <sebsebseb> geos64: Did you install a driver?
[19:58] <geos64> it on bord sis mx 660
[19:58] <sebsebseb> geos64: sis oh dear
[19:58] <alkamid> something's changing my cpu scaling preference from ondemand (set by cpufreq-set) to performance - any idea what it might be?
[19:58] <geos64> what driver on ubuntu
[19:58] <jonaskoelker> alkamid: if you find out, will you please let me know?  I have the opposite problem, maybe you solution will help me
[19:59] <sebsebseb> geos64: that explains why you got a problem,  as far as I know sis has no Linux support at all,  and that there isn't any support for sis from the Linux  hardware support reverse enginering people either
[19:59] <alkamid> jonaskoelker: what does "opposite problem" mean?
[19:59] <pradeep> I think beta of karmic has released, is it safe to upgrade jaunty now?
[19:59] <jonaskoelker> alkamid: I want performance, I get clocked down to 800 MHz from time to time
[19:59] <sebsebseb> pradeep: don't do it yet
[19:59] <geos64> so what do i do
[19:59] <jonaskoelker> pradeep: it is never safe to upgrade ubuntu :p
[20:00] <sebsebseb> pradeep: wait untill final
[20:00] <thiebaude> pradeep, im on 9.10 but waiting for the beta updates
[20:00] <jonaskoelker> pradeep: or at least I will say: every time I have upgraded right after the release, I've gotten burned
[20:00] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: I did updates today, so I guess I am on the beta
[20:00] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, exactly
[20:00] <almostAg33k> thiebaude: how could Diablo run fullscreen on xp and not ubuntu and be a memory issue.
[20:00] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: I told it to update myself :)
[20:00] <sebsebseb> !karmic
[20:00] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, how much ram do you have?
[20:01] <sebsebseb> Karmic can still have bugs, even when beta, so  for those  not already on it,  you may as well wait untill the final on October 29th
[20:01] <thiebaude> haha
[20:01] <almostAg33k> thiebaude: 1 512 stick
[20:01] <pradeep> jonaskoelker: can't wait for karmic
[20:01] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, i have bugs , but they are not show stoppers
[20:01] <alkamid> jonaskoelker: maybe try to set lowest and highest freq to 2.2 (or whatever is maximum for you)
[20:01] <sebsebseb> even finals can have bugs, but it won't be as buggy as development versions
[20:01] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, and your in a virtual machine?
[20:01] <thiebaude> with 512mb
[20:01] <jonaskoelker> alkamid: afaik, I don't run any cpu-freq-setting app
[20:02] <almostAg33k> thiebaude: what do you mean virtual machine?
[20:02] <pradeep> thiebaude: hoping that october 29 comes asap
[20:02] <thiebaude> !vm
[20:02] <sebsebseb> geos64: system > administration > hardware drivers
[20:02] <sebsebseb> geos64: anything available? anything for the graphics card I guess not
[20:02] <apparle> !karmic
[20:03] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, my bad then
[20:03] <defineyourmorals> output for sudo apt-get install python-opengl http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/283233/
[20:04] <defineyourmorals> any ideas?
[20:04] <x-warrior> Will the Ubuntu 9.10 Beta launch today?
[20:04] <almostAg33k> im running it using wine, and using a virtual desktop. if i take it off the VD, it crashes. it did run fullscreen once tho
[20:04] <Pici> x-warrior : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[20:04] <x-warrior> Pici,  ok ;)
[20:04] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, im not sure what to tell you
[20:05] <geos64> i dont see enye driver in ther
[20:05] <almostAg33k> thiebaude: does that sound more like drivers? i think i might try and install a new graphics card
[20:05] <len_> ctmjr: sorry about the other time, my net is crappy and keep disconnecting me
[20:06] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, its possible, if it graphics related
[20:06] <len_> who can help me config wlan using console?
[20:06] <thiebaude> !intel
[20:06] <almostAg33k> any one in here know why WINE crashes when i run a game not in a virtual desktop?
[20:06] <len_> n8tuser: I apologise for u too. I lost connection last time
[20:06] <djzn> I have a question... if I use a 32bit Ubuntu, and make a ext4 filesystem and later down the road, If I change this system to 64bit Ubuntu, will I have problems with the partition or filesystem? In other words... does 32/64bit use interfer in anything disc or filesystem wise?
[20:07] <n8tuser> len no sweat
[20:07] <sebsebseb> geos64: I belive it was sis,  the one  with no Linux support
[20:07] <thiebaude> !sis
[20:07] <sebsebseb> geos64: I guess a quick Google and you can find out   what sis is like when it comes to Linux
[20:08] <ctmjr> len is this a wep connection
[20:08] <gcleric> !evolution
[20:08] <len_> ctmjr: no wp2-psk
[20:09] <len_> ctmjr: no, it is a wp2-psk
[20:09] <almostAg33k> is there anything i should do before i install a newer graphics card? or will ubuntu find drivers and stuff?
[20:09] <ctmjr> len_: did you try wicd or you want to use cli
[20:10] <fccf> almostAg33k: what card?
[20:10] <len_> ctmjr: no I dont know what is wicd
[20:10] <almostAg33k> i have a few lying around, but i think a pny
[20:10] <geos64> ok
[20:10] <thiebaude> almostAg33k, after you install do a System-administration-hardware drivers and let ubuntu search for a driver
[20:11] <Mka> djzn: doesnt an Ubuntu release of 32bit differ form that of 64bit? if you change your system to 64bit, then install 64bit version of Ubuntu
[20:11] <almostAg33k> thiebaude: is there a sudo code for that?
[20:11] <djzn> Mka: I meant the Filesystem ext4 itself....
[20:11] <fccf> almostAg33k: pny is a manufacturer that buys licences for video chipsets ... more spacifically what chipset?
[20:11] <Mka> djzn: you are not clear
[20:12] <djzn> is it recommended that I create a ext4 filesystem with 32 bit ubuntu or a 64 bit ubuntu, if later on I will use 64 bit OS only
[20:12] <almostAg33k> feef: i will brb and tell you
[20:12] <len_> ctmjr: what u recommend?
[20:12] <sebsebseb> djzn: uhmm well
[20:12] <alkamid> !undervolting
[20:12] <sebsebseb> djzn: Ext4 isn't perfectly stable in 9.04, because of the kernel they have and that
[20:12] <Pici> djzn: cpu architecture doesn't matter when it comes to the filesystem.
[20:13] <defineyourmorals> python opengl with nvidia graphics card
[20:13] <defineyourmorals> any help
[20:13] <djzn> Pici: it does not interfer whatsoever with filesystems....?
[20:13] <Pici> djzn: Correct.
[20:13] <thiebaude> !details | defineyourmorals
[20:14] <djzn> Pici: i am actually waiting for 9.10 release, for me to start from ZERO....
[20:14] <defineyourmorals> i have given the details multiple times
[20:14] <jonaskoelker> alkamid: does setting the cpu frequency with the gnome panel applet work for you?  It works for me...
[20:14] <djzn> Pici: are the video codecs and stuff stable in 64bit
[20:14] <jonaskoelker> alkamid: that might be _because_ I don't have (again, to the best of my knowledge) any cpu-frequency-setting app running
[20:14] <alkamid> jonaskoelker: no, it doesn't
[20:15] <jonaskoelker> alkamid: (i.e. Ubuntu has some kind of infrastructure for setting cpu frequencies that the applet taps into)
[20:15] <ctmjr> len_: if your on a laptop and use wireless hot spots i would try wicd, it is a gui, you can install it by sudo apt-get install wicd but it will remove the network-manager
[20:15] <defineyourmorals> i am running ubuntustudio 9.04, 64-bit. i run sudo apt-get install python-opengl and get this output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/283233/
[20:15] <jonaskoelker> alkamid: tried doing so while having your cpu-freq-setting app not running?
[20:15] <alkamid> jonaskoelker: but I've just solved the problem: I had to remove cpufreqd from my system
[20:15] <kn100> whats the command that allows me to upgrade to beta's of ubuntu
[20:15] <almostAg33k> feef: its a pny geforce
[20:15] <kn100> i remember using one to go from 8.10 to 9.04
[20:15] <sebsebseb> kn100: wait untill the final on October 29th
[20:15] <jonaskoelker> alkamid: there we go.  Ubuntu decides what app you should use and wins again :p
[20:15] <kn100> sebsebseb, hell no
[20:16] <almostAg33k> feef" a geforce fx5500
[20:16] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  kn100
[20:16] <jonaskoelker> alkamid: oh well, concgrats on getting it working :)
[20:16] <shane2peru> !langauge | kn100
[20:16] <len_> ctmjr: Im not using gnome
[20:16] <alkamid> jonaskoelker: thanks! next step is to get undervolting working
[20:16] <len_> ctmjr: Im doing it by console
[20:16] <jonaskoelker> alkamid: best of luck :)
[20:17] <yokobr> !yokobr
[20:17] <len_> that y i were using wconfig wlan0 essid wlan enc mypass
[20:17] <len_> but is not configuring
[20:17] <ctmjr> len_: ok first make sure you have wpasupplicant try sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[20:18] <Pici> djzn: Best to ask questions about 9.10 in #ubuntu+1
[20:19] <geos64> WHAT if i do it text mode x11 when it boots
[20:20] <len_> ctmjr: I'll install it brb it will take a while because the computer with linux doesnt have Internet connection
[20:20] <nostalgicBadger> has anyone found that espeak stops working post-suspend? the problem is arising on my Aspire One netbook... I should probably check if my sound is working, actually.
[20:20] <geos64> it shou have a defalt driver for 1024x768
[20:21] <fccf> I have a ssh server running on a non standard port, what is the proper way to connect to it?
[20:21] <ctmjr> len_: ok
[20:21] <len_> ctmjr: apt return msg saying that wpasupplicant is already installed
[20:21] <Pici> fccf: ssh hostname -p portnum
[20:21] <nostalgicBadger> oh, ok. my sound card in general does not work post-suspend. there's probably a thread somewhere. unless anyone happens to know of a solution, i'll just google it
[20:22] <edbian> How do you set up sudo in NIS?
[20:22] <zacard> hi all
[20:23] <edbian> nostalgicBadger: You could try rmmod the module first before suspending.  If it works you could right a simple script.
[20:23] <edbian> s/right/write
[20:23] <ctmjr> len_: ok that's good now make sure it see the network you want to connect too sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[20:23] <fccf> Pici: thank you
[20:23] <daasdingo> hey, I need to flash my bios and dont have a floppy drive, and do not have windows, how do I do this? None of the tutorials on the internet works for me because the bios files are bigger than 1.5MB
[20:24] <len_> ctmjr: it is.
[20:24] <zacard> what bios u have ?
[20:24] <daasdingo> compal jhl90
[20:25] <AstroEl> :D
[20:26] <wavez> I'm using a live CD which has Hardy on it. My video doesn't work unless I use safe graphics mode. My card is an nVidia GeForce 7600 GT
[20:26] <daasdingo> the .ROM  and .WPH files of the bios are 2MB each
[20:26] <cybic> hello all
[20:27] <cybic> am i right here to place a question?
[20:27] <wavez> well, I'm not running Hardy at the moment. Is where should I look for a fix to my video driver issue?
[20:27] <defineyourmorals> cybic: depends on the question
[20:28] <len_> ctmjr: what I do now?
[20:28] <cybic> defineyourmorals: having some trouble to get the trackpoint of my HP NC6400 working at a normal speed...
[20:28] <cybic> defineyourmorals: ubuntu 9.04
[20:29] <cosmiq> test
[20:29] <shane2peru> ok fixed your script > defineyourmorals
[20:29] <len_> ctmjr: I gotta restart brb
[20:29] <shane2peru> defineyourmorals: I closed the pm window, not sure how to get it back. :)
[20:29] <pradeep> how to find the uid and gid of a given user
[20:30] <tyler_d> msn on pidgin still failing
[20:30] <Pici> pradeep: id username
[20:30] <defineyourmorals> cybic: i have not dealt much with trackpoint issues, what do you mean by a normal speed?
[20:30] <wavez> oh well. I gotta start work anyway. I'll try asking later tonight. bfn
[20:30] <ctmjr> len you need to configure your wireless for wpa here is a guide to get it going if you have any questions just ask (i did not write it the credit goes to anonymous) http://pastebin.com/m7cc580b6
[20:30] <len_> kk gonna check it
[20:31] <cybic> defineyourmorals: you know, the speed the mousepointer is flying over the desktop :) i'm able to configurate the touchpad speed, but the trackpoint stays untouched by this configuration
[20:32] <pradeep> Pici: thanks, also i tried cat /etc/passwd and looked for my entry. But your way was easy
[20:33] <meez> A few hours ago I had perfectly working wifi and eth on my laptop. Now, despite both being seemingly fine (and reporting as "Connected"), neither of them are actually working. ifconfig reports I have an ip address, but I can't ping or load anything externally or locally. Any idea what I've goofed up that could stop networking working entirely?
[20:33] <paul68> When you use ssh to connect remotely to the internet using it as tunneling what is the tunneling create for traffing in mb's for instance
[20:33] <nanotube> meez: tried "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" ?
[20:34] <nick> my alt-tab is very slow, I don't have compiz installed, is there a way to make it appear faster
[20:34] <defineyourmorals> cybic: you're saying the mousepoint preferences have no effect on movement when using the trackpoint?
[20:34] <Guest22901> my alt-tab is very slow, I don't have compiz installed, is there a way to make it appear faster
[20:35] <cybic> defineyourmorals: yes, exactly
[20:35] <meez> nanotube: yes. i got a bizzare "ignoring unknown network interface eth1=eth1." error, which appears to be my wireless card
[20:36] <defineyourmorals> cybic: it could be a hardware issue, or your model isn't adequately supported?  i really have no idea which it would be. someone else on the irc may know
[20:36] <meez> although it did [ok] me afterwards
[20:36] <nanotube> meez: hrm, dunno what's up with that...
[20:36] <tyler_d> error log from pidgin is :..http://paste.ubuntu.com/283255/
[20:37] <meez> i was using powertop but i can't think of anything that might have changed
[20:37] <meez> either way it's severely irritating me
[20:37] <cybic> @everybody: does somebody have a clue where i could configurate the trackpoint built in my HP NC6400 on Ubuntu 9.04? THe mouse configuration affects just the touchpad...
[20:38] <cybic> defineyourmorals: thanks anyway :)
[20:38] <PXL> http://faitesundont.free.fr :p
[20:39] <Testo> hola  como estas
[20:40] <Testo> estan
[20:40] <darthanubis> bien
[20:40] <darthanubis> y tu?
[20:40] <janiktom> hola, bian :-) /my spanish is realy bad :-)/
[20:40] <ctmjr> !es | estan
[20:40] <paul68> When you use ssh to connect remotely to the internet using it as tunneling what is the tunneling create for traffing in mb's for instance
[20:41] <darthanubis> paul68, rephrase?
[20:41] <subone> My system intermittently "cuts off". The screen goes all random noise for a second then the monitors cut out and any sound that is playing at the time repeats over and over like a skipping record. Then there is nothing to do but turn it off. Any idea what this is a sign of?
[20:41] <darthanubis> subone, test on a non broken system
[20:41] <subone> \test what?
[20:42] <shem> anyone:   Anyone familiar with a fix to the "[Errno 5] Input/output error"  when installing?  Tried different disks/drives.. Installing on Ext3
[20:43] <meez> my wireless card appears to be claiming to be eth1 for some reason despite it being able to scan and "connect" to wireless networks. huh.
[20:43] <subone> darthanubis: what are you suggesting I test? it is an intermittent thing and i have no other system with the same specs as this one
[20:43] <darthanubis> subone, test on known working hardware. ou sound as though you have hardware issues
[20:43] <paul68> darthanubis: meaning when i greate a tunnel from my work towards home how muvh trafic generates the tunnel on the work network
[20:43] <darthanubis> paul68, only you could tell use that
[20:43] <paul68> darthanubis: when surfing the internet
[20:44] <darthanubis> paul68, install etherape or wireshark to get a break down of the traffic of certain packets
[20:44] <subone> darthanubis: what do you mean test? test what? all the other computers in the house work fine... idk what you mean
[20:44] <Nivex> The .zsync files at http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/ are older than the .iso files and don't have the correct filenames in them.  Looks like the release mgr needs to rerun zsyncmake.
[20:45] <kn100> I Just had a brainwave for ubuntu
[20:45] <darthanubis> subone, your hardware is fubar. Is that easy to understand?
[20:45] <te> Something very very weird just happened to me.  I was messing with vpnc and all of a sudden I started getting these lines about a module not being loaded and so on.  I tried typing who and got command not found, ls the same thing, images and icons in the ubuntu UI were suddenly X's like they were being deleted.  I cannot for the life of me figure out what happened unless someone rooted my box and rm -rf /'ed it.  Anyone ...
[20:45] <kn100> you know the notify-osd notifications
[20:45] <te> ... have any ideas?  Running super grub boot disk doesnt even find a kernel.
[20:46] <subone> darthanubis: what hardware? anything more specific?
[20:46] <kn100> make them interactive
[20:46] <paul68> darthanubis: I can't access the internet through work, only through ssh tunneling need to be carefull using it cause I could loose my job. thats why I was wondering in what way it's detectable when surfing through the tunnel
[20:46] <ctmjr> !brainstorm | kn100
[20:47] <darthanubis> subone, dude, you computer,PC,machine,boxen is BROKEN. Use another one IF you can to see if this is isolated to that particular machine or not.
[20:47] <kn100> ctmjr, heh
[20:47]  * darthanubis am I speaking English?
[20:47] <te> Does anyone know of any 0day jaunty exploits?
[20:47] <arand> kn100: not gonna happen, untill you defeat the ayatana team in an epic battle...
[20:48] <subone> darthanubis: do you have any idea what you are talking about, what am i supposed to test? i told you none of the other computers i have have the same specs and it is OBVIOUSLY a hardware issue, i'm asking what my particular experience might be linked to
[20:48] <Mortice> Hi. My sound is working fine in every other app, but flash sound is not going to the correct device. All other sounds are going to my USB sound card, but flash is sending its sound to my internal sound card. Any idea how to change this behaviour?
[20:48] <subone> "test it on another computer" tells me nothing
[20:48] <te> Does anyone know of any 0day jaunty exploits?
[20:48] <kn100> arand, hah go on
[20:49] <pradeep> anyone has an idea of speed up firefox using tmpfs
[20:49] <K-Yo> Hello, I have troubles configuring my keyboard, it seems the "Inser" Key does not work...
[20:49] <losher> paul68: If I understand your question, the answer is, the same amount of traffic as a normal connection, plus some overhead for the SSH protocol and its encryption. Normal web browsing probably won't be noticed, but large downloads might...
[20:49] <genii> pradeep: I just prefer using FasterFox addon
[20:49] <paul68> losher: thanks
[20:49] <pradeep> genii: but about tmpfs?
[20:50] <pradeep> genii: ain't it good
[20:50] <genii> pradeep: any time you're running out of ram ond not using hd it's going to be much faster of course
[20:50] <te> Does anyone know of any 0day jaunty exploits?  Does anyone know anything about jaunty security?  I think I was rooted today and am trying to figure out more information.
[20:51] <xiong> I'm about 7 months into Linux and I haven't yet caught on to the meaning of underlined characters in menus. Sometimes they seem to represent keyboard shortcuts invoked by Alt; other times, invoked by Ctrl; other times they seem to do nothing. Yet just about every single item has an underlined character. Could someone point me to docs for this feature?
[20:51] <losher> te: it's extremely rare to be rooted. Can I ask why you think it's happened...
[20:51] <pradeep> genii: hs as in hard disk? yeah just tried that tmpfs tweak
[20:51] <genii> !info chkrootkit | te
[20:52] <pradeep> genii: don't know how fast it will be:-)
[20:52] <Mortice> Hi. My sound is working fine in every other app, but flash sound is not going to the correct device. All other sounds are going to my USB sound card, but flash is sending its sound (through Pulse) to my internal sound card. Any idea how to change this behaviour?
[20:52] <te> losher: I wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary really -- I ran sudo vpnc, and then out of nowhere I began to get these error messages about modules not being available or loaded on the command line
[20:52] <te> losher: my home directory was empty with ls
[20:52] <n8tuser> pradeep seems and feels faster
[20:52] <Pici> te: Also: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[20:52] <te> this is a brand new drive, ive checked the drive and it's fine
[20:53] <te> i cant boot into ubuntu to check this out
[20:53] <te> because my kernel is gone
[20:53] <pradeep> n8tuser: u tried it?
[20:53] <losher> te: where did vpnc come from?
[20:53] <te> Pici: genii, thanks
[20:53] <te> losher: the regular source everyone else uses
[20:54] <losher> te: then it's even more unlikely to contain an exploit. Are you saying your home directory files have disappeared?
[20:54] <n8tuser> pradeep->  at this moment yes
[20:54] <Chun1> Trying to find a fun way for my younger brother to learn to use the terminal / bash. Are there any terminal games, or um, fun activities, that'll help?
[20:55] <te> losher: it was just very weird -- i've run rm -rf / before and i know its effects, it was acting exactly like that, and when i tried to reboot the system, it couldn't even find GRUB, error 17
[20:55] <genii> !info nethack
[20:55] <genii> hm
[20:55] <te> modules and regular /bin commands started to fall out
[20:55] <te> i would use them, then a minute later they were gone
[20:55] <Pici> Chun1: The bsdgames packages a has a bunch of console based games, also theres moon-buggy
[20:55] <xiong> Chun1, there's got to be some sort of RPG
[20:56] <losher> te: you mentioned a brand new drive? I'd suspect it first...
[20:56] <te> losher: checked the drive out, it's fine
[20:56] <te> no bad sectors, nothing
[20:56] <nostalgicBadger> if my sound dies after suspend, is there something i can run that should get it going again?
[20:57] <dayo> nostalgicBadger: sudo alsa force-reload
[20:58] <te> losher: im at a loss -- ive used linux for a long time, and like i said, i know what rm -rf / looks/feels like
[20:58] <losher> te: what about the vnpc prog you ran as sudo? Is it an install script? Maybe something went wrong with it?
[20:58] <nostalgicBadger> works! thank you.
[20:58] <te> losher: that's possible, but man, it couldn't delete my entire fucking home directory?
[20:58] <te> the damn kernel?
[20:59] <te> someone would have noticed that by now
[20:59] <genii> !language | te
[20:59] <te> yeah yeah i know, sorry
[20:59] <te> losing my whole install has me a little paranoid/angry
[20:59] <dethaddr> hey can anyone help me with drivers?
[21:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is it normal for my ram cache to be at 43%
[21:00] <shane2peru> defineyourmorals: apparently it was other updates that I had to reboot, working now!
[21:00] <dethaddr> i just installed a grafix card and need the drivers for a geforce fx5500
[21:00] <SGottl7227> can someone help me with setting up this usb modem.. how do u put the network manager in the system>preferences.. i see it in the applications>add/remove but not in the system>preference
[21:01] <losher> te: I admit I'm only guessing. So how do you plan to proceed...?
[21:01] <genii> te: I did once a similar boo-boo by using sudo on an install script which first wanted to clean out it's home dir by using / as the start for a recursive rm. Was supposed to be run as the user assigned to it, etc
[21:01] <DasEi> dethaddr: checked hardwaredrivers ?
[21:02] <te> genii: that strikes me as weird behavior for vpnc, can you verify that's not the case?
[21:02] <dethaddr> DasEi: what do you mean?
[21:02] <SGottl7227> does anyone know how to get the network manager to show up in the preference area?
[21:02] <te> the files it needs to run are in /etc/vpnc/
[21:02] <te> root is required to run vpnc
[21:02] <te> err sudo at least
[21:02] <DasEi> dethaddr: system > preferences > hardwaredrivers
[21:03] <dethaddr> DasEi: theres no tab for the above mentiond
[21:03] <te> genii: could you take a look at the vpnc script in /etc/vpnc/vpncscript.pl
[21:04] <genii> te: Perl is not my area of expertise. You might want to ask someone else, or in the perl channel
[21:04] <losher> te: well it's not going to fix itself. First step is to close any network vulnerabilities, 2nd step is to restore from whatever backups you have...
[21:04] <te> losher: this was a fairly fresh install, so the loss of data is not my concern
[21:05] <te> what is very concerning is whatever happened to me could potentially happen to someone else
[21:05] <te> in addition to the fact that where i work is very security conscious
[21:05] <te> im trying to verify this was not an exploit before i escalate the situation though
[21:05] <te> err this *was*
[21:05] <subone> How can I move my taskbar to another monitor?
[21:06] <don_martino> hi! i upgraded to 9.10 (don't worry, it works great!) and i noticed it takes a lot longer until the splashscreen appears, compared to 9.04. is that a problem, work in progress, or is that the expected behaviour?
[21:06] <seil> subone drag!
[21:06] <DasEi> dethaddr: k, then you can use envyng :
[21:06] <DasEi> !envyng
[21:06] <subone> seil i tried that doesnt work
[21:07] <dethaddr> so run that in terminal?
[21:07] <Quaoar> hi, i'm trying to report a bug on launchpad and it always sends me to the documentation page
[21:07] <Quaoar> i don't want documentation, i just wanna file a bug report
[21:07] <xmnt> hey anyone know of an alternative to skype that has video support?
[21:07] <Travis-42> does the 64-bit ubuntu work pretty much the same as 32-bit these days in terms of hardware support and software?
[21:07] <te> Travis-42: yes
[21:07] <Whitor> !firewall | whitor
[21:07] <don_martino> xmnt, afaik ekiga has video support
[21:08] <losher> te: well, you can run the chkrootkit stuff. And look through any logs left on your system....
[21:08] <DasEi> dethaddr: install it, run it, does your card show up ?
[21:08] <Travis-42> ok thanks te
[21:08] <marcellus> Hmm. Why isn't a/the global classpath updated when one installs, for example, junit?
[21:08] <dethaddr> DasEi: i dono where to get it.
[21:08] <Quaoar> empathy is really crappy
[21:08] <xmnt> don_martino, do I need some software .. or how does tht work?
[21:09] <te> losher: i will if I can get it to boot
[21:09] <te> i guess i could dd it to another partition/drive
[21:09] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo apt-get install envyng*
[21:09] <te> and do some forensics
[21:09] <don_martino> xmnt, dunno i'm fairly new to ubuntu but ekiga shipps with ubuntu and is installed by default
[21:09] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is it normal for my ram cache to be at 43% when I am only surfing the net
[21:09] <don_martino> xmnt, i think you only need to sign up and you're ready to go
[21:09] <Quaoar> !bug
[21:10] <te> Quaoar: is that directed at me?
[21:10] <mcrittenden> is lenovo still the way to go for an ubuntu friendly laptop?
[21:11] <DasEi>  U-b-u-n-t-u: check top or htop to see (F6 in htop lets you sort output)
[21:11] <dethaddr> DasEi: its installing now
[21:11] <SGottl7227> does anyone know how to make the network manager appear in the preference area above?
[21:11] <Whitor> why is it that even after disabling my local firewall... local users on my network cannot connect to services running on my machine? They cant even ping me.
[21:11] <Whitor> I'm trying to host a crack-attack game :)
[21:11] <Quaoar> te i don't know what you're talking about
[21:12] <losher> te: boot from a live cd, then go looking for the logs. And (I suppose) check your firewalls...
[21:12] <Whitor> I did a sudo ufw disable ... to no avail
[21:12] <guntbert> U-b-u-n-t-u: how did you determine that value?
[21:12] <Whitor> worked fine on 8.10
[21:12] <n8tuser> Whitor-> what does sudo iptables -L  show?
[21:13] <maple1> !stop
[21:13] <Trizicus> I'm trying to play Runescape and I'm using sun java, I've have my GPU drivers installed, and it lags badly. Can anyone help with this problem?
[21:13] <Petein> hi. my ubuntu 9.04 o/s doesnt seem to find the Intel(R) WIFi Link 5100 AGN card. In the network manager there are no wireless networks shown. the driver of this card it says that it was included from the kernel 2.6.24. what can i do?
[21:13] <losher> te: note that if *I* was trying to take over a machine, the *last* thing I'd do is rm everything or otherwise do anything to draw attention to myself, much less give the owner a reason to reinstall...
[21:13] <Lenin_Cat> /var/lib/dpkg/status got somehow deleted how do I fix this?
[21:13] <dethaddr> what about a sound card update?
[21:13] <trineox> Whitor: a good place to test to see if you have your ports properly set is canyouseeme.org
[21:14] <Whitor> n8tuser, http://pastebin.ca/1588287
[21:14] <stefg_> Lenin_Cat: uhoh ...
[21:14] <SGottl7227> can someone help me with modem set up for a usb
[21:14] <guntbert> maple1: whats the matter?
[21:14] <Lenin_Cat> how?
[21:14] <stefg_> Lenin_Cat: reinstall
[21:14] <SGottl7227> how do u make the network manager appear in the preference area?
[21:14] <Whitor> trineox, but that would push through my external firewall... which would skew the results
[21:14] <maple1> I'm stoned
[21:14] <Trizicus> I'm trying to play Runescape and I'm using sun java, I've have my GPU drivers installed, and it lags badly. Can anyone help with this problem?
[21:14] <Lenin_Cat> how? I cant use apt-get without that..
[21:14] <n8tuser> Whitor-> you have rules, learn how they work, it may be blocking your services,
[21:14] <Lenin_Cat> compile from source?
[21:15] <Petein> hi. my ubuntu 9.04 o/s doesnt seem to find the Intel(R) WIFi Link 5100 AGN card. In the network manager there are no wireless networks shown. the driver of this card it says that it was included from the kernel 2.6.24. what can i do?
[21:15] <Petein> sorry got disc
[21:15] <te> god damnit -- http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ is down
[21:15] <stefg_> Lenin_Cat: that
[21:15] <maple1> my mobo has a bulging cap, but it's a dell from 2006. does that mean my mobo's going to go soon? I've had no blue screens
[21:15] <Whitor> I would like to ~truely~ disable the firewall.... disable iptables maybe ?
[21:15] <n8tuser> SGottl7227-> right click and add the app
[21:15] <Whitor> sudo ufw disable doesn't seem to do it
[21:15] <SGottl7227> right click ok hold on
[21:15] <Lenin_Cat> stefg_, well it was just recently deleted, would it be in trash?
[21:15] <n8tuser> Whitor-> sudo iptables -F
[21:15] <WiZz3> Hey, i have a nvidia geforce 6200 and i'm running ubuntu jaunty, i've installed recommended hardware drivers (version 180) but i cannot turn on extra desktop effects.. any know why ?
[21:15] <SGottl7227> right click where?
[21:16] <trineox> Whitor: well i know i had similar issues, with my machine being access on the internal network but not the outside one..that was how i tested the ports...also make sure your isp isnt blocking the port on the incoming.
[21:16] <sebsebseb> Petein: got disc hmm
[21:16] <n8tuser> SGottl7227-> right click at the bar and add to the panel  your app
[21:16] <stefg_> Lenin_Cat: that's the problem. your package database is gone. that means your system is hosed, that's the single most important file for a debian/ubuntu. get your personal stuff of the disk and do a completely new install
[21:16] <sebsebseb> Petein: yeah with the Windows driver?
[21:16] <Whitor> trineox, this is all local that I'm talking about
[21:16] <Whitor> Not ISP involved
[21:16] <Whitor> Not = no
[21:16] <Trizicus> what is the addon called that allows you to double click an apps title bar and it slides up?
[21:16] <SGottl7227> OK NT. HODL ON
[21:16] <Petein> sebsebseb: what? i'm into windows now and its fine
[21:16] <Trizicus> emerald or something?
[21:17] <pluto> uto
[21:17] <Whitor> Trizicus, windowshade
[21:17] <Lenin_Cat> stefg_, but cant I just recompile it?
[21:17] <andre-r> hallo
[21:17] <DasEi> te: sgd confirmed
[21:17] <Trizicus> what is emerald?
[21:17] <stefg_> Lenin_Cat: your system is toast
[21:17] <Whitor> emerald is a decorator
[21:17] <SGottl7227> I DON'T SEE NETWORK MANAGER THERE
[21:17] <Lenin_Cat> stefg_, but cant I just recompile it?
[21:17] <sebsebseb> Petein: I was wondering why after putting your issue you put,  sorry got disc
[21:17] <stefg_> no
[21:17] <Lenin_Cat> why not?
[21:17] <Trizicus> i think that's what i wanted
[21:17] <Whitor> compiz is a window manager Trizicus
[21:17] <losher> Lenin_Cat: I think you may have to reinstall from scratch. You could try recreating an empty status file and see if apt-get will let you reinstall packages. The list of installed packages should be in /var/log/dpkg*
[21:17] <DasEi> dethaddr: does your card show up ?
[21:17] <stefg_> !apt | Lenin_Cat
[21:17] <SGottl7227> i see modem monitor
[21:17] <Trizicus> i know that
[21:17] <Fox3211> Hey all!! While playing openarena i can't get my mouse to go outside the game window. How do you do this? I know it is probably a simple keystroke.
[21:17] <Petein> sebsebseb: i just installed firefox and chatzilla and i closed firefox accidentially
[21:18] <stefg_> Lenin_Cat: do you have a backup?
[21:18] <sebsebseb> SGottl7227: try not to type in caps online, because it means shouting
[21:18] <Lenin_Cat> not of that file
[21:18] <Whitor> Trizicus, compiz is responsible for handling the windowshade operation
[21:18] <Whitor> if you are running compiz ...
[21:18] <stefg_> Lenin_Cat: i mean of the whole system ?
[21:18] <Lenin_Cat> losher, how do you create a blank file from scratch
[21:18] <sebsebseb> Petein:  ok and?  your on a live cd?
[21:18] <Lenin_Cat> stefg_, nay
[21:18] <trineox> Whitor: ok sorry.....sorry for late reply trying to think about your problem.
[21:18] <stefg_> Lenin_Cat: reinstall time
[21:18] <Lenin_Cat> but /home is on a seperate partition
[21:18] <Petein> sebsebseb: now im on windoze
[21:18] <Lenin_Cat> losher, how do you create a blank file from scratch?
[21:18] <WiZz3> I have a nvidia geforce 6200 and i'm running ubuntu jaunty, i've installed recommended hardware drivers (version 180) but i cannot turn on extra desktop effects.. anyone know why ?
[21:19] <xiong> I'm starting to become productive again! Well worth the investment. This reminds me of the time I decided to switch to the Dvorak keyboard layout. For a month, I couldn't touch well with either layout. Then I regained my former speed on Dvorak; after another month, I was able to switch reasonably well back to Qwerty, too; then my speed picked up with Dvorak. Same thing with Linux/Ubuntu/Gnome (except the timeframe is a bit longer).
[21:19] <trineox> Whitor: ping doesnt work either way to or from your machine?
[21:19] <sebsebseb> Petein: your in Windows, but you want to configure the wireless in Ubuntu?
[21:19] <SGottl7227> i have a modem pic on top now
[21:19] <Petein> sebsebseb: just to write some things down and try them in a while
[21:19] <Whitor> trineox, only to my machine
[21:19] <Trizicus> Whitor: It is emerald that I wanted
[21:19] <gdoteof> anyone familiar with RoR?  I needed to upgrade to the latest rake, so i did aptitude remove rake, then sudo gem install rake.  now running rake doesn't work
[21:19] <gdoteof> i am not sure where it sits
[21:19] <losher> Lenin_Cat: sudo touch /var/lib/dpkg/status. Are you sure there's no backup. In my system I have /var/lib/dpkg/status-old ?
[21:20] <Petein> gdoteof: Ruby on Rails ??
[21:20] <sebsebseb> Petein: well you need to be in the Ubuntu install or on the Live CD, to fix wireless
[21:20] <gdoteof> petein, yes
[21:20] <Petein> gdoteof: no idea
[21:20] <Lenin_Cat> losher, ah! yes there is
[21:20] <Lenin_Cat> thanks
[21:20] <Whitor> trineox, do I need to reboot after doing ufw disable ?
[21:20] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  Petein
[21:20] <Petein> sebsebseb: the wireless wasnt found from the live cd either
[21:20] <Petein> sebsebseb: now what
[21:20] <trineox> Whitor: It wouldnt hurt to reboot to refresh the settings
[21:20] <stefg_> Lenin_Cat: so you see: backups are the only cure for murphys law :-)
[21:21] <Fox3211> Hey all!! While playing openarena i can't get my mouse to go outside the game window. How do you do this? I know it is probably a simple keystroke.
[21:21] <sebsebseb> Petein: you find out what wireless you have exactly, and then  try and find a driver for it, and if you find one, you try and install it,  if there is no luck with any of that, and you have the Windows driver you can try ndiswrapper
[21:21] <losher> Lenin_Cat: I'd like to know how you managed to delete /var/lib/dpkg/status in the first place...
[21:21] <trineox> Whitor: only thing i am wondering is are you using a router?
[21:21] <Lenin_Cat> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 6284:
[21:21] <Lenin_Cat>  field name `Original' must be followed by colon
[21:21] <Lenin_Cat> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[21:21] <Petein> sebsebseb: WPA-PSK
[21:21] <Whitor> trineox, nope
[21:21] <stefg_> Lenin_Cat: i'd be interested, too
[21:21] <Lenin_Cat> losher, it was giving me a error saying that file was corrupt
[21:21] <Lenin_Cat> :P
[21:22] <ZykoticK9> Fox3211, openarena grabs your mouse, this is desired - if you could move your mouse outside the window playing would be close to impossible -- simply close openarena if you want your mouse back?
[21:22] <losher> Lenin_Cat: so you deleted it?
[21:22] <sebsebseb> Petein: wireless chipset  or whatever, that's what the native Linux drivers are for
[21:22] <Whitor> trineox, the only thing that changed was installing 9.04 .... works fine on the laptop sitting next to me running 8.10
[21:22] <SGottl7227> i was saying i see a pic of a modem above in the bar
[21:22] <Whitor> using the same wireless access point
[21:22] <stefg_> Lenin_Cat: then you should look at at your filesystem and your hardware. losing your package database is fatal
[21:22] <trineox> Whitor: well cool that narrows it down for sure
[21:22] <SGottl7227> but now network manager
[21:22] <n8tuser> Whitor-> sudo iptables -F   <-- you've done this?
[21:22] <Petein> sebsebseb: ive read that this driver was included in the kernel from kernel 2.6.34
[21:22] <Petein> 2.6.24 sorry
[21:22] <SGottl7227> but no
[21:23] <Fox3211> ZykotickK9: I understand. but i would like to be able to go out and check something. then come back. How can i do that in gnome?
[21:23] <Lenin_Cat> stefg_, nope, used -old its fine
[21:23] <Petein> sebsebseb: 2.6.24 sorry
[21:23] <Whitor> n8tuser, yeah, and I posted the pastebin ^^
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> Fox3211, if alt+tab doesn't do it - I don't know of another way.  Good luck.
[21:23] <Whitor> n8tuser,  http://pastebin.ca/1588287
[21:23] <losher> stefg_: actually, hitting ctrl-c at the wrong time can mess up the status file. I've seen it before. Lazy python programmers...
[21:23] <sebsebseb> Petein: ok usaully I don't attempt  helping with wireless,  other than giving the bot link, since it's not really my area.   Nothing under system > administration > hardware drivers for it?
[21:23] <SGottl7227> can someone help me. i am trying to set up a usb modem
[21:24] <DaZ> SGottl7227: we can't
[21:24] <n8tuser> Whitor-> you have rules, learn how they work, it may be blocking your services,
[21:24] <Petein> sebsebseb: are there any drivers to enable usually?
[21:24]  * alexsander is trying to run 2 ubuntu's 9.04 (one is under vmware)
[21:24] <SGottl7227> maybe i will try that canocil paid support
[21:24] <sebsebseb> patholio: depends on the hardware
[21:24] <Petein> sebsebseb: i never used wireless from a laptop before.im completely lost
[21:24] <SGottl7227> i think it is 54 for a year
[21:24] <Whitor> n8tuser, worked fine before... Now I've got to be an iptable expert to use my system ? This seems like a step backward
[21:25] <sebsebseb> Petein: look under that to see if there is a driver, there probably won't be one though
[21:25] <n8tuser> Whitor-> firewalling is a serious business, you need to do more studying
[21:25] <losher> alexsander: I run ubuntu inside ubuntu/vmware. It works fine...
[21:25] <Petein> sebsebseb: ok lets assume that it doesnt.what should i do next?
[21:25] <Fox3211> alt+tab doesn't work :( How do I get control of my mouse back outside of a window in gnome (running openarena)?
[21:25] <vagrant> can someone indicate a graphical serial port emulator for ubuntu?
[21:25] <cybic> still looking for a hint, where to configurate my trackpoint on hp nc6400
[21:25] <Petein> sebsebseb: ive read to d/l the driver buts it says that it was included from the 2.6.24 kernel version
[21:25] <cybic> :(
[21:26] <sebsebseb> Petein: the wireless documentation the  bot links to is meant to be good,  but wireless is  one of those things,  it doesn't tend to be that easy to configure, unless you know what your doing
[21:26] <Whitor> n8tuser, were talking a game on a local network. I just want the software to work.  Users shouldn't have to be iptables experts to be able to use Apt installed software
[21:26] <Petein> sebsebseb: i dont know where to start... :(
[21:27] <Whitor> ufw disable apparently doesn't disable the firewall
[21:27] <n8tuser> Whitor-> you have additional requirements, i dont know what yours are
[21:27] <trineox> n8tuser: hey couldnt Whitor scan his internal ip to make sure the port is open?
[21:27] <sebsebseb> Petein: reading the wireless documentation that the bot gave is a start, and  there are people that come in here that can help you with it properly,  but you just got to wait from them, and repeate your issue
[21:27] <sebsebseb> Petein: or  you can do a thread about your wireless on the forum
[21:27] <Whitor> trineox, good idea, I'm doing an angryipscan from another computer
[21:27] <Petein> sebsebseb: alright
[21:27] <sirGuest> sebsebseb, its good to see you again
[21:28] <n8tuser> trineox-> he can if he wants, but having firewall rules may inhibit responses, and goes to the black hole
[21:28] <mbn_18> Hi, I sshed from my Ubuntu desktop to a CentOS server. when I click F1 in the CentOS setup software the Ubuntu help program start and not the function in the shell. Any idea?
[21:28] <Whitor> Yeah... I don't show up
[21:28] <Whitor> What the heck does ufw disable do ?
[21:28] <sebsebseb> sirGuest: not sure who you are, and if you want to chat to me, well pm
[21:28] <sirGuest> how do I change the color of the bar at the top of the screen?
[21:28] <trineox> n8tuser: well i had a similar issue and thats how i figured it out
[21:28] <Whitor> I shouldn't need to reboot ... but maybe I do ... back in a few
[21:28] <DasEi> !info ufw | Whitor
[21:29] <sirGuest> how do I change the color of the bar at the top of the window*
[21:29] <n8tuser> trineox-> cool
[21:29] <sebsebseb> !forums |  Petein
[21:29] <Petein> sebsebseb: i know the forums
[21:30] <MongoTheMad> sirGuest, which bar? the menu bar or the window itself?
[21:30] <cubiczee> Has anyone tried skype with gaim lately?
[21:30] <sirGuest> MongoTheMad, the window. It was a typo
[21:30] <dethaddr> DasEi: now that this has installed what should i do.
[21:30] <sebsebseb> Petein: ok good, and  I am pretty sure that was the first time I used that factoid
[21:30] <trineox> n8tuser: ya i also had a problem with my isp blocking port 445 for my remote router...i had to nano the some files to fix it
[21:31] <n8tuser> Whitor-> sudo iptables -F   <-- you've done this?  you did not do this.. read carefully
[21:31] <DasEi> dethaddr: (!caution, will log you off) sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:31] <trineox> n8tuser: I didnt see him come back yet
[21:32] <VCoolio> sirGuest: change your window border theme (metacity), check on gnome-look.org; also most gtk themes will come with their own window border theme; in the theme appearance window click 'customize' and then the tab 'borders'
[21:32] <Whitor> sudo ufw status gives : Status: inactive .... it is obviously not
[21:32] <zzz2009> Hi everyone, I am new here so if i screw up sorry
[21:32] <meez> Networking suddenly stopped (wlan and wired), however worked on the livecd environment. So to try and fix my problem, I formatted/reinstalled my / partition leaving /home/ in tact. However, even after a reinstall networking STILL isn't working. What could possibly be stored in /home/ that is breaking networking? I really can't figure it out. I get an IP address and a "Connection Established" but nothing responds, I can't ping anything. Where 
[21:33] <Whitor> 8.10 was so much better than 9.04. I've had so many issues since reloading that I didn't have with 8.10
[21:33] <Whitor> most I've been able to work through
[21:33] <trineox> Whitor: i wouldnt know ive only been using 9.4 for awhile
[21:34] <MongoTheMad> Is anyone aware that the tracker for the 9.10 beta is down? or is it just me?
[21:34] <switchgirl> i started up the softphone just now and "Ekiga is already running, if you want it to call a given SIP, H.323, or callto address, please use "ekiga -c address". that is the error i got
[21:34] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, and guntbert .......... here is a screen shot http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4170/screenshotao.png
[21:34] <cubiczee> careful with 9.04, all new releases are a bit buggy
[21:34] <dethaddr> DasEi: i will be back
[21:34] <U-b-u-n-t-u> i am only surfing
[21:34] <U-b-u-n-t-u> cache % is in the yellow
[21:34] <VCoolio> zzz2009: we'll start swearing if you do something wrong ;); welcome; if you have a question, ask
[21:35] <sebsebseb> !9.10 |  MongoTheMad
[21:35] <meez> well hell with this; archlinux or xp, whichever cd i find first
[21:36] <sebsebseb> meez: Linux back to Windows hmm
[21:36] <MongoTheMad> sebsebseb, thanks for the channel
[21:36] <stapel> have anyone perhaps had empathy working with video chat to a gTalk account before?
[21:36] <sebsebseb> MongoTheMad: np
[21:36] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: sudo apt-get install htop && htop                                , then check whoch process eats it up
[21:37] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok
[21:37] <DasEi> which*
[21:37] <saji> !IRC
[21:37] <amerinese> Anyone using the fish shell?  What's the "]2;fish" before the prompt mean and how do I get rid of it?
[21:37] <Whitor> ok.... using iptables... How can I enable anyone and everyone access to port 8080 on my machine ?
[21:37] <amerinese> Also it beeps, and it doesn't happen at every line, just once in awhile
[21:38] <u5penok> my congrads people,  seems 9.10 wil be awesome
[21:38] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, its firefox
[21:38] <Whitor> ufw disable, should freaking disable the firewall. This is upsettng me
[21:39] <u5penok> 9.04 was sucks
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: my first bet was firefox, it sucks
[21:39] <limpbzkit> hi
[21:39] <Whitor> uSpenok I agree. I hope 9.10 is better
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> its great :)
[21:39] <u5penok> yeah )
[21:39] <limpbzkit> how can tell me how can I install my wirelles driver in ubuntu
[21:39] <Bolvadur_> u5penok: I disagree, it was the best version until it came out
[21:40] <VCoolio> 9.04 s*cks -1
[21:40] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: so you have the cache in background, try to delete history (formerly delete private data), restart it after : sudo killall firefox ;; which version ff do you use ?
[21:40] <Bolvadur_> limpbzkit: what driver?
[21:40] <u5penok> so many new stuffs
[21:40] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi,  if I use firefox or opera its the same result...........
[21:40] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok
[21:40] <u5penok> 9.04 was like 8.10
[21:40] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, firefox 3.0.14
[21:41] <zzz2009> I am attempting to switch from fedora to ubuntu server, I have setup my hdd as 250mb /boot ext2, swap 6gb raid 1, /tmp 40gb raid 0 ext2, / 200gb raid 0 ext4, /data 1.2Tb raid 0 ext4. I would like to make /usr and /home sub-directories of /data without using lvm any suggestions on how best to do this?
[21:41] <u5penok> of course good but 9.10 is just excelent
[21:41] <DasEi> !firefox3-5
[21:41] <larsemil> what could be the case for auto completion not working after i write sudo...?
[21:42] <limpbzkit> bolvadur I put sudo airmon-ng in terminal and it doesn`t show me wich wifi card do I have it show me eth1 Unknown
[21:42] <amerinese> !fish
[21:42] <Dannyboy> !fish
[21:42] <zzzzzZZZZzzz> amerinese just caught a 18kg Genie Lamp
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> larsemil: bad ~/.bashrc
[21:42] <zzzzzZZZZzzz> Dannyboy just caught a 76kg Yellowfin Tuna
[21:42] <aifnord> does anyone know how you can get to the display resolution dialog in gnome without going through the main menubar? I ran an old game in wine, and it set the resolution to 640x480, so the menubar isn't visible
[21:42] <DasEi> !firefox-3.5 | U-b-u-n-t-u
[21:42] <larsemil> ActionParsnip: will try removing it?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> larsemil: no!
[21:42] <bluebaron> anyone having problems with sendmail freezing up?
[21:42] <larsemil> ActionParsnip: i only have a .bashrc_vanilla
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> larsemil: gedit ~/.bashrc
[21:43] <stapel> what is a good gmail notifier to use with karmic? something that use the new notification system preferably.
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> larsemil: you need to have a ~/.bashrc
[21:43] <ikonia> stapel: karmick support is in #ubuntu+1
[21:43] <DasEi> Whitor: port open ?
[21:43] <amerinese> !fish-shell
[21:43] <amerinese> !fish shell
[21:43] <younder> fish-shell?
[21:43] <zzzzzZZZZzzz> amerinese just caught a 22kg Seahorse
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> larsemil: you can so: sudo cp /root/.bashrc ~/; sudo chown $USER:USER ~/.bashrc
[21:44] <larsemil> ActionParsnip: moved the vanilla one to .bashrc and it worked
[21:44] <ikonia> zzzzzZZZZzzz: what ?
[21:44] <larsemil> thanks
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> larsemil: then close your terminal and reopen
[21:44] <VCoolio> aifnord: what if you run 'killall gnome-panel'? maybe they respawn right with the new resolution
[21:44] <younder> you might wanna sudo passwd root
[21:44] <ikonia> younder: please don't recommend that without a good reason
[21:44] <younder> If you want to log in in console mode
[21:44] <abhishek_> i cannot use "su" command ...authentication fails everytime....i am using the same password as the one i use for loggging in to the system
[21:44] <ikonia> younder: no - that has nothing to do with logging into the console
[21:45] <ikonia> !sudo | abhishek_
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> abhishek_: use: sudo -s
[21:45] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, but it happens with opera too
[21:45] <younder> ikonia: Yes, the boot only let's you log in as root!
[21:45] <ikonia> younder: no it doesn't
[21:45] <younder> so if you windows login get's boged that is your only option
[21:45] <ikonia> younder: and the recovery console will also auto log you in -
[21:46] <ikonia> younder: thats very wrong
[21:46] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: your specs ? how much ram all ?
[21:46] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Das 2 gigs ddr2 pc 4200
[21:46] <younder> look I have a boged login, and haven't been able to log into ubuntu for 4 days
[21:46] <WinterWeaver> just installed Miro, and it broke all video on my ubuntu. I now removed it, but how can I fix video? I'm getting this error: GStreamer encountered a general stream error
[21:46] <ikonia> younder: ok - that's nothing to do with root logins though
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> younder: could boot to livecd and chroot, then make a new user
[21:47] <younder> And it will only let me log in as root which is impossible as I don't have a root password
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> younder: can you boot to recovery root console?
[21:47] <ikonia> younder: that's nonsense - how do you know it will only let you login as root if you can't login as root ?
[21:47] <zzz2009> Ok,I'll ask my ? a different way, is possible to"mount /data/var as /var
[21:48] <younder> It asks me for a root password
[21:48] <ikonia> younder: did you set a root password ?
[21:48] <Guest64559> hey everyone. i just installed gentoo 2008.0 from kubuntu 8.04 live cd. when i boot i get the eth0 : timed out message. i'm using a PPPoE connection and am currently under the live CD. any suggestions?
[21:48] <zzz2009> I have tried mount --bind but that did not seem to work
[21:48] <younder> It does not ask me for a login name
[21:48] <younder> ikonia: no
[21:48] <ikonia> younder: that is the only senario recovery mode would ask you for a root password is if you set a personal root password
[21:48] <dooglus> !usb
[21:48] <ikonia> zzz2009: you could look at loop back file systems
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> zzz2009: no you dont moount a folder to another, you could symlink the folder.
[21:48] <abhishek_> i am trying to install ktorrent ,,,i have created a directory named software and have unzipped the content of the ktorrent folder...now i don.t know how to proceed with the installation...plz help
[21:48] <younder> sorry, not true
[21:48] <ikonia> younder: yes - very true
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> zzz2009: or loop mount (forgot that)
[21:49] <zzz2009> i tied symlink but I get erros on boot
[21:49] <jrib> abhishek_: that isn't how you install software in ubuntu!  See ubottu:
[21:49] <zzz2009> loop mount ?
[21:49] <jrib> !software > abhishek_
[21:49] <younder> I am sitting with the damn machine infront of me, and I am telling you that what you are saing is bollucks
[21:49] <Guest64559> anyone??
[21:49] <jrib> !who | younder
[21:49] <zzz2009> plse point me at documentation
[21:49] <newbie> hello i have a question EnvyNG doesnt detect my readon video card ?
[21:50] <ikonia> younder: that's all very well. But the only reason the recovery console would prompt you for a password is if you set a password
[21:50] <ikonia> younder: I suggest you try booting into single user mode instead
[21:50] <younder> ikonia: that sounds like a plan, thanks
[21:50] <sparr> I would like to make a video DVD from a lot of smaller video files.  What software can handle that?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> newbie: i wouldnt suggest using envy
[21:50] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: do you need it to be less ? you could put their priority down (see man nice), but over a gig for ff is really too much,  also you can set down the reload in background of ff, that will save memory, but that amount is really strange, any apps combined? apparmor or something ?
[21:51] <newbie> what should i use
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> newbie: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[21:51] <jrib> zzz2009: you mount block devices, not directories
[21:51] <jrib> zzz2009: can you describe what you are trying to accomplish?
[21:51] <younder> sorry iif I'm a bit steaming..
[21:52] <zzzzzZZZZzzz> ?
[21:52] <Whitor> DasEi, tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:8080            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      4285/crack-attack
[21:52] <abel_> buenas noches
[21:52] <DasEi> Whitor: netstat I assume, so open
[21:52] <chess_> My sound on my netbook doesn't sound, however I see its active... Whats wrong?
[21:53] <zzz2009> I have a 1.2tb /data 'partions
[21:53] <zzz2009> sorry finger trouble
[21:53] <Viking667> Quick question. I inherited a kubuntu (which has since had a couple of dist-upgrades) and machine, how easy would it be to convert that to xubuntu instead? Machine has 600MHz CPU and 384Mb memory.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> newbie: its a terminal command, you can copy / paste to the terminal an copy from it too
[21:54] <jrib> Viking667: just install xubuntu-desktop and choose xfce as your window manager at the login window
[21:54] <DasEi> Viking667: very easy,
[21:54] <trece8> viking: easier to just install xubuntu
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[21:54] <trece8> :P
[21:54] <Viking667> Possibly what's holding it up the most is that the PCI bus is only 66MHz.
[21:54] <Viking667> ah, right.
[21:54] <soley> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop i thought
[21:54] <fbdystang> whats the difference between ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu??
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> jrib: he has apps, just wants the desktop which xfce4 will sort nicely
[21:54] <trece8> I'd install crunchbang anyway, viking667
[21:55] <soley> ubuntu - gnome -- kubuntu - KDE -- Xubuntu - XFCE
[21:55] <zzz2009> I have a 1.2tb '/data' partion that i would like to use for /var & /home without using lvm, I want to split /home off so that reinstall etc, will not erase data, and putting /var there gives it room to expand
[21:55] <DasEi> Viking667: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: lxde is much lighter for low end systems
[21:55] <jrib> ActionParsnip: up to him I guess, but xubuntu provides lighter apps than kde :)
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: why tyhe whole desktop, why not use the gnome apps and just use the xfce desktop, less bloat
[21:55] <trece8> fbdystang, in using resources, that means: kubuntu > ubuntu > xubuntu > lubuntu (in resources for working)
[21:55] <DasEi> Viking667: but for so low specs, I 'd suggest use the minimal-netinstaller of 9.04 , then use a light desktop, like action mentioned or icewm
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> jrib: true, just makes a lot of duplicate apps
[21:56] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, I dont think so
[21:56] <fbdystang> trece8: so if I have a nice new rig i should probably run kubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[21:56] <newbie> ActionParsnip  here is it  ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[21:57] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, I trying to figure it out do you think I could have a bad ram mod?
[21:57] <jrib> fbdystang: depends whether you prefer gnome or kde really... that's subjective...
[21:57] <d1gital> hello all.   does evolution have an auto-response (vacation etc.) feature?  if not, how can i accomplish this?
[21:57] <trece8> fbdystang, I'd go for the lightest distro anyway... it's just a matter of how flashy you'd like it to be.... search screenshots in google, you'll see what I mean
[21:58] <newbie> ActionParsnip: hello
[21:58] <apparle> trece8: I first used linux with KDE and am in love with it
[21:58] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: i have no specific idea, ram can be checked by memtest, other issues look through the files in /var/log  (syslog,kernelog, )  and look at dmesg.txt after doing  a  dmesg > dmesg.txt
[21:58] <apparle> trece8: sorry
[21:58] <trece8> apparle, I use crunchbang and I love it to death... the other extreme isn't it?
[21:58] <apparle> fbdystang: I first used linux with KDE and am in love with it
[21:59] <apparle> !info crunchbang
[21:59] <apparle> trece8: I dunno about crunchbang what is it
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> newbie: great let me websearch
[21:59] <fbdystang> jrib: I have used both kde and gnome. I don't really tell the difference. What are the benefits of each. I do embedded system design.
[21:59] <zzz2009> bye
[22:00] <newbie> ok thanks
[22:00] <trece8> apparle, fbdystang, take a look http://df.uba.ar/~andres/crunchbang.png
[22:00] <jrib> fbdystang: just use what you like best.  KDE tends to be more configurable, GNOME tries to follow a set of guidelines and keep things easy to use
[22:00] <bucky> d1gital, make sure you enable that for any mailing lists so they get a bounce from every email you recieve while your're away
[22:01] <trece8> it's a ubuntu-based distribution first oriented for the Eee... but it rocks, simple and well-thought. Cool simple interface, great keyboard shortcuts, and the dmenu, which rocks
[22:01] <jammeh> hi, i am trying to install 9.04 server onto a viglen mpc-l - have jumped a few hoops so far but stuck atm because the partitioner has a blank line where i guess the "partition me" option should be
[22:01] <popey> jammeh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ViglenMPC
[22:01] <popey> jammeh: see "known problems"
[22:01] <fbdystang> trece8: thats cool. is that kubuntu? with kde?
[22:01] <trece8> no, that's crunchbang, it uses OPENBOX
[22:02] <soley> crunchbang = <3
[22:02] <d1gital> bucky: lol. its not for my main email; no mailing lists there. this does not help me accomplish the task though.
[22:02] <coldflame23> anyone tryed beta?
[22:02] <trece8> kde is the other extreme: http://www.petesodyssey.org/files/kde4screenshot11.png
[22:02] <shai> Does anyone know how I can enforce the larger DPI ( I set it to 120 instead of 96 ) on X apps I started over SSH X11 Forwarding ? The DPI set on my XDM works great, but those menus are just way to small on the apps I start via SSH ...
[22:03] <DasEi> fbdystang: http://kde.org/screenshots/
[22:03] <trece8> just search screenshots and in youtube, but keep in mind: more effects: more resources to use on that effects
[22:03] <jammeh> Popey, i don't think it's those issues, i have got past the acpi and pnp bits
[22:03] <popey> jammeh: no, the pata_cs5535 is the issue where it cant find the disk
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> newbie: did you say x1200?
[22:03] <newbie> yep
[22:03] <popey> jammeh: bug 318805 is what you're seeing
[22:03] <newbie> ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[22:03] <jammeh> ahh, ok
[22:03] <jammeh> i will go read more, ta
[22:04] <apparle> trece8: that KDE screen shot is not good at all.............. you should see the latest KDE4.3
[22:04] <popey> no problem jammeh, i filed that bug, and you're the second today to ask about it :)
[22:04] <chess_> hi, my netbook has the sound through the headphone but now I want it to go by the front boxes? How to do this,,
[22:04] <jammeh> i had thought from http://appleby.is-a-geek.net/mpcl/index.html that if i was installing jaunty i would have been ok :(
[22:04] <barqs> Does anyone know if Gnome-look.org is down?
[22:04] <popey> jammeh: he links to the bug at the bottom :)
[22:05] <VCoolio> barqs: seems like it, give it a minute
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> newbie: have yuo checked in: System->Hardware drivers
[22:05] <apparle> DasEi: the screenshots you suggest are old.................
[22:05] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi,
[22:05] <U-b-u-n-t-u> System Information for wagnix-desktop: CPU: GenuineIntel
[22:05] <newbie> where is that
[22:05] <fbdystang> so, If i understand right, kubuntu uses kde, and ubuntu uses gnome. and both uses the same resources. is that right?
[22:05] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[22:05] <DasEi> fbdystang: yes
[22:05] <IdleOne> fbdystang: yes
[22:06] <chess_> How to switch headphone sound to the front speakers of my netbook?
[22:06] <jammeh> popey: but also says the Jaunty kernel has all the required drivers?
[22:06] <trece8> apparle, ok... but as I remember that, it has all the things: round corners, big icons, big menu bars, lighting effects, and opacity
[22:06] <fbdystang> haha, thanks that is very helpful
[22:06] <Umeaboy> I upgraded to 9.10 & the Self-test program says that I have sector-errors. Any way to fix them?
[22:06] <sebsebseb> !9.10 |  Umeaboy
[22:06] <popey> jammeh: the latest one does, but not the one thats on the original jaunty cd
[22:06] <trece8> fbdystang, no, KDE is heavier on resources than Gnome
[22:06] <jammeh> anyhow, i will move on from that and wonder what my best install option is to work around it?
[22:06] <popey> jammeh: good luck :)
[22:06] <chess_> How to switch headphone sound to the front speakers of my netbook?
[22:06] <DasEi> !desktop | fbdystang
[22:06] <popey> jammeh: i explained on the wiki page how to work around it
[22:07] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: Yeah, but do I have to worry about the error?=
[22:07] <popey> jammeh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ViglenMPC starting at "start the alternate..."
[22:07] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: you should ask in there, that's offtopic for in here
[22:07] <barqs> VCoolio: Thank you. I was curious if it was just me or  not lol.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> newbie: in the system -> prefs or system -> administration menu
[22:08] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: then again if your on about memtest
[22:08] <apparle> trece8: Now there is a lot of transperency and font can be decreased along with icons
[22:08] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: I guess it's basically the same in all the releases that have had it
[22:08] <matrix^m> hi
[22:08] <fbdystang> why did you put an ! in front of everything? does that do something in chat?
[22:08] <VampireLove> Where can I downlad the oficial windows 7 .iso ( the one that microsoft will releace to the public)
[22:08] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: #ubuntu+1 does work.
[22:08] <amerinese> What's a good racing game for ubuntu?
[22:08] <jammeh> popey: aaahhhhhh, blimey
[22:08] <matrix^m> is it possible to know when a particular software was installed on ubuntu system?
[22:08] <sebsebseb> amerinese: there are a few reasonble ones in the repo
[22:08] <Umeaboy> amerinese: Look at packages.ubuntu.com
[22:08] <ismael_> hi
[22:08] <DasEi>  fbdystang: it triggers the channel bot, like :
[22:08] <DasEi> !brain
[22:08] <jetscreamer> amerinese: torcs is ok
[22:08] <newbie> ActionParsnip:  it doesn't show me anything there i went to ati website i beleave it was a 1250xpress
[22:08] <jammeh> i could have sworn i'd been there, but then saw your update timestamp! thanks for the info
[22:09] <amerinese> Cool...
[22:09] <jammeh> i will give that a whirl
[22:09] <popey> :)
[22:09] <ismael_> any idea on volume functions keys not workin on xubuntu
[22:09] <fbdystang> DasEi: wow, that is cool
[22:10] <rxd> what will be the size of ubuntu say if one just want to have X running without applications
[22:10] <apparle> trece8: though I have to agree crunchbang seems cool
[22:10]  * VCoolio is off to try torcs :P
[22:11] <DasEi> ismael_: you can try to get them via keyboardsetup if the acpi didn't auto-worked, but first be sure your s-card is recognized properly
[22:11] <trece8> apparle, dmenu is great, you type alt-f3 and searches for commands and such. No round corners, etc
[22:11] <trece8> try it
[22:11] <dooglus> where can I find a karmic beta cd image torrent please?
[22:11] <sebsebseb> dooglus: #ubuntu+1 is currently the Karmic channel
[22:11] <VampireLove> where can I find a oficial window 7 torrent?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> newbie: looks like you will need to use the open driver
[22:11] <Umeaboy> VampireLove: Wrong channel.
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> !windows | VampireLove
[22:11] <wolvesdread> Xming on XP Pro, X11 forwarding working, gnome-terminal from ubuntu for instance comes right up on Xming..  how to launch complete gnome desktop on XP?  thx.
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> !ot | VampireLove
[22:11] <ismael_> ll try that
[22:12] <newbie> whats an open driver
[22:12] <younder> I recommend to all to try the python 2.6 implementation. 3.1 isn't quite ready for show yet. It breaks most libs
[22:12] <ismael_> works fine on gnome though
[22:12] <sebsebseb> newbie: you mean an open source driver?
[22:12] <Umeaboy> VampireLove: You can also use Virtualbox to install Windows.
[22:12] <newbie> yes
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> wolvesdread: you can use vnc, its a bit clunky, what do you want to achieve no the ubuntu desktop?
[22:12] <sebsebseb> newbie: a driver that has the source code available to the general public :)
[22:12] <DasEi> dooglus: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha6#Download%20Alpha%206
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> newbie: theres the radeon driver and the ati driver both are open source
[22:13] <sebsebseb> newbie: so  different operating systems can support it properly and that
[22:13] <sebsebseb> newbie: or whatever
[22:13] <newbie> have a link ?
[22:13] <sebsebseb> DasEi: the beta is out now
[22:13] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: There's noone in #ubuntu+1
[22:13] <newbie> or a download page
[22:13] <younder> nvidea drivers arn't public but the do work
[22:13] <younder> they
[22:13] <DasEi> sebsebseb: ah, but the the update will result in same anyway
[22:13] <dooglus> DasEi: thanks, but that's an alpha.  I see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/beta/ has the beta images.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> newbie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1231030
[22:14] <wolvesdread> ActionParsnip: can't I do it with Xming..  I just want to redirect gdm to Xming remote Xserver.  can be done?
[22:14] <fbdystang> this is just a test for the ubutto !nvidia
[22:14] <ikonia> fbdystang: ubottu works fine
[22:14] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: yes there is, you joined wrongly I guess
[22:14] <sebsebseb> dooglus: it's in the topic for #ubuntu+1
[22:14] <Guest57594> I can't update to beta... I'm still alpha...
[22:14] <sebsebseb> dooglus: by the looks of it
[22:14] <Guest57594> help
[22:14] <DasEi> fbdystang: first in line, irc -command
[22:14] <fbdystang> ikonia: yea but i don't know how to use it
[22:14] <ikonia> Guest57594: 9.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[22:14] <fbdystang> ahh
[22:14] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: Isn't it on this server?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> wolvesdread: if you are ssh'd into the server and have xming you can run    nautilus and see the desktop
[22:14] <fbdystang> !nvidia
[22:15] <ikonia> !ubottu > fbdystang
[22:15] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy:   try this  /join #ubuntu+1  or click on a link for it
[22:15] <younder> NVIDEA drivers for Linux are pretty good..
[22:15] <sander__> Hello. I have an annoying problem with Vimperator. When you use ":o something" it will use the default search engine (google) to search for it. But on Ubuntu, if the search term starts with "ubuntu" it doesn't go to google but to the ubuntu site. It's not a vimperator problem because this does not happen on my debian machine (same version of firefox and vimperator). any ideas?
[22:15] <mako-dono> rxd: it depends on what else you want on the system..  I'm not really sure about ubuntu, but it should be around 200-300mb
[22:15] <younder> I have no complaints
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> wolvesdread: you will have a more responsive system if you just run the apps you need from terminal
[22:15] <telmich> good evening!
[22:15] <fbdystang> ikonia: yea that's where I am looking, i just wanted to try it
[22:16] <karnal> hi
[22:16] <telmich> I'm planning to add ubuntu support to cinit (i.e. a full init system migration) and search for some people who may be interested in helping: http://www.nico.schottelius.org/blog/migrate-ubuntu-to-cinit/
[22:16] <younder> What would piss me off if if they didn't provide them. The fact that their spec changes often enough for them not to make the interface opensource is a diffrent matter
[22:16] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: That worked.
[22:17] <ikonia> younder: can you please control your language a little please.
[22:17] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: yes  I saw you in there, and np
[22:17] <Umeaboy> Thanks.
[22:17] <younder> ikonia: ? piss is to harsh for you
[22:18] <ikonia> younder: it's a bit uncalled for
[22:18] <wolvesdread> ActionParsnip: So that gave me the desktop, but...  maybe desktop is the wrong word.  I'd like to get the loginscreen and then all of gnome in a window on XP
[22:18] <Trizicus> I made a sym link to firefox-32 but it's not showing the icon on the desktop how do I fix this
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> wolvesdread: you can vnc to a gdm screen, its a bit pointless though as you can login with ssh and then run the apps you want
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> wolvesdread: vnc is also unsecure so access over wan is not advised
[22:20] <jefinc> is there an AutoCAD type program for linux?
[22:20] <Scunizi> jefinc: yep.. open synaptic and search for CAD
[22:20] <sebsebseb> jefinc: not sure, but I expect there are AutoCAD alternatives out there
[22:21] <gyroscope> QCad
[22:21] <Trizicus> I made a sym link to firefox-32 but it's not showing the icon on the desktop how do I fix this
[22:21] <dethaddr> i just installed a graphix card and ran !envyng. and im having some visual issues
[22:21] <jefinc> hey look at that I already have QCAD installed :)
[22:21] <ikonia> dethaddr: envyng isn't really supported
[22:21] <ikonia> !envyng > dethaddr
[22:22] <gyroscope> when open it :)
[22:22] <DasEi> dethaddr: more specific ?
[22:23] <dethaddr>  ikonia: im running a pny geforce fx5500. on an old dell
[22:26] <Trizicus> I made a sym link to firefox-32 but it's not showing the icon on the desktop how do I fix this
[22:27] <dethaddr> !BinaryDriver
[22:27] <younder> ikonia: I used to be special forces I guess my language can be a bit rough.. sorry
[22:28] <jado> hi, my hal-system-smbi process takes all the cpu
[22:28] <ikonia> younder: not at all, no problem
[22:29] <shoss> Hello, how do i identify the parent of a zombie process and how can i terminate the zombie process? does a zombie even have a pid?
[22:29] <Trizicus> I am in 64-bit ubuntu and installed 32 bit firefox (works great). I made a symlink on my desktop to the 32 bit version however the icon that is used is a shell script icon. How can I change this?
[22:29] <aaron_> can anyone help me on a hardware issue? ( i know this isnt the #hardware channel but no one there is really responding) its about installing a new power supply, PM me if you can
[22:29] <ikonia> Trizicus: why did you install a 32bit firefox ?
[22:29] <Trizicus> because 64 bit has problems with java
[22:29] <LjL> shoss: you might not always be able to remove a zombie process at all
[22:29] <masterghost> al guien abla español
[22:30] <Scunizi> dethaddr: your card is supported by the drivers available in synaptic.. you should do a full update and then search synaptic for nvidia.. you'll see several there.. the right option might even be available in System>Admin>Hardware drivers.. You'll have to uninstall envyng though
[22:30] <Trizicus> those problems are gone in 32 bit so........
[22:30] <ikonia> !es > masterghost
[22:30] <shoss> LjL: reboot won't work?
[22:30] <LjL> shoss: well of course reboot will do it.
[22:30] <shoss> LjL: logout and back in?
[22:30] <mercutio22> Hello, I just upgraded to karmic on my netbook
[22:30] <ikonia> !9.10 > mercutio22
[22:31] <mercutio22> I don't see the new UNR interface, how come?
[22:31] <dethaddr> how do i uninstal envy
[22:31] <DasEi> dethaddr: as I understood you, the driver installed fine but now you have problems with settings ?!
[22:31] <LjL> shoss: probably not. it depends on why the process is a zombie - it's usually waiting (sometimes forever) on some I/O resource
[22:31] <nudlah>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  LjL  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.
[22:31] <LjL> nudlah: hi
[22:31] <jado> hi, my hal-system-smbi process takes all the cpu and my systems lags too much
[22:31] <rooftops> is there a thread to help me with setting up game servers?
[22:31] <shoss> LjL: anyway to identify the zombie's host and try to terminate that host?
[22:31] <lePti> hello everyone
[22:32] <Scunizi> rooftops: check in #linux
[22:32] <LjL> shoss: what do you mean by host?
[22:32] <sled> hello
[22:32] <shoss> LjL: parent process
[22:32] <nudlah> hi
[22:32] <sled> I ran update-manager -d and I want to upgrade to ubuntu 9.10 beta
[22:32] <htorres11393> i can't drag and drop on my desktop
[22:32] <sled> but it tells me it's alpha
[22:32] <nudlah>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  sled  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.
[22:32] <dethaddr>  DasEi: yes. everything is choppy.
[22:32] <nudlah> where there from??
[22:32] <ikonia> !9.10 > sled
[22:32] <LjL> shoss: the zombie may not die even if you kill the parent process
[22:32] <htorres11393> like i can't drag anything from the menu to anywhere else
[22:32] <LjL> nudlah: use english in this channel please.
[22:32] <sled> thx!
[22:32] <Scunizi> sled: that's 'cause it is.. right now
[22:32] <nudlah>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  Scunizi  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.
[22:33] <nudlah> ok
[22:33] <amerinese> !trophy
[22:33] <zzzzzZZZZzzz> DecoyWolf holds the fishing record when they caught a 83kg Scuba Diver
[22:33] <zzzzzZZZZzzz> jem holds the hunting record when they bagged a 71kg Boo Boo Bear
[22:33] <DasEi> dethaddr: so it wnet not fine; can you call envy again to uninstall the driver or is it too choppy ?
[22:33] <nudlah>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  DasEi  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.
[22:33]  * Scunizi thinks we got extra bots in the channel
[22:33] <g0tcha> hey guys, is there a way to mount an hdd from ubuntu livecd?
[22:33] <htorres11393> maybe
[22:33] <DasEi> nudlah : bored ?
[22:33] <LjL> nudlah, please, stop that, whatever its saying
[22:33] <shoss> LjL: does having a zombie process on system effect in anyway on the system load or does it have any negative effects such as resource consumption?
[22:33] <nudlah>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  shoss  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.
[22:33] <Trizicus> I am in 64-bit ubuntu and installed 32 bit firefox (works great). I made a symlink on my desktop to the 32 bit version however the icon that is used is a shell script icon. How can I change this?
[22:33] <htorres11393> gotcha open up a terminal in the live cd
[22:33] <htorres11393> and mount it from there
[22:33] <nudlah>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  htorres11393  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.
[22:33] <dethaddr> ubottu: how do i uninstall envyng?
[22:34] <ikonia> nudlah: english please
[22:34] <LjL> nudlah: top that.
[22:34] <DasEi> dethaddr: so it went not fine; can you call envy again to uninstall the driver or is it too choppy ?
[22:34] <jado> hi, my hal-system-smbi process takes all the cpu and my system lags too much
[22:34] <te> So, not only did my ubuntu die, which looked suspiciously like a rm -rf, it is not even recognized as an ext3 partition anymore
[22:34] <LjL> shoss: no, not really, it's basically as if it didn't exst. the only thing is that if the process is zombied because of being stuck on accessing a resource, well, that resource may stay unavailable
[22:35] <te> Does anyone have any idea what could possibly cause a partition type to be screwed up?
[22:35] <shoss> LjL: thank you
[22:35] <te> can rm -rf / even do that?
[22:35] <LjL> te: no
[22:35] <htorres11393> te: no it can't
[22:35] <masterghost> help
[22:35] <te> friggen weird man
[22:35] <te> this disk is fine
[22:35] <te> i just ran diagnostics on it
[22:35] <sled> uhm what could be the reason that my system freezes from time to time? I can't even restart X using ctrl + alt + backspace
[22:35] <htorres11393> did the diagnostics check the mbr?
[22:35] <LjL> te: running dd may cause that, not rm.
[22:35] <ikonia> !dontzap > sled
[22:35] <ikonia> sled: 9.10 support in #ubuntu+1 as you've been told
[22:36] <sled> I'm talking about 9.04
[22:36] <sled> :)
[22:36] <DasEi> dethaddr: ??
[22:36] <te> LjL: interesting
[22:36] <jonsol_> are you using ext4?
[22:36] <ChogyDan> sled: it is now SysRq+k
[22:36] <te> htorres11393: i dont know if it did or not
[22:36] <ikonia> sled: you where talking about 9.10 a minute ago
[22:36] <dethaddr> DasEi: no its not to choppy for regualr use only when i try and run a movie, and when i use wine fullscreen is not stable. its almost laggish
[22:36] <sled> I installed the dontzap thing
[22:36] <jado> sled: can you ctrl+alt+suppr in normal time?
[22:36] <htorres11393> te: check the mbr
[22:36] <sled> ikonia, I wanted to upgrade to fix the problem
[22:37] <sled> jado: yes I can restart X using the combination normally
[22:37] <g0tcha> does ubuntu livecd auto detect the harddrive in the machine?
[22:37] <DasEi> dethaddr: k, call envy again to uninstall the driver before removing itself
[22:37] <dethaddr> DasEi: how do i do that?
[22:37] <sled> but when my system freezes it won't work, and the num lock LED starts to blink when my system freezes
[22:37] <aaron_> can anyone help me on a hardware issue? ( i know this isnt the #hardware channel but no one there is really responding) its about installing a new power supply, PM me if you can
[22:37] <sled> but my laptop is almost new, so I don't think it's a HW problem
[22:38] <ikonia> aaron_: please don't ask in here if you know it's the wrong channel
[22:38] <sebsebseb> sled: upgrading to Karmic before the final,  may result in you getting other problems
[22:38] <DasEi> dethaddr: via terminal or via your apps > systemtools
[22:38] <keith_> I'm having trouble getting my nvidia drivers to work on my 9800GT card, can someone help me?
[22:38] <thiebaude> keith_, did you install the drivers?
[22:38] <aaron_> thanks for being totally unhelpful, ikonia.
[22:38] <dethaddr> yea i know how to run term. but what do i type in there to call upon envvy?
[22:39] <keith_> i did but they don't appear to work
[22:39] <ikonia> aaron_: thanks for not obeying the channel rules - please try to respect them
[22:39] <thiebaude> keith_, System-Aministration-hardware drivers
[22:39] <keith_> they don't appear in hardware drivers
[22:39] <dethaddr> !envyng
[22:39] <DasEi> aaron_: I#m in #hardware
[22:39] <keith_> that doesn't work for me either, it won't run
[22:40] <thiebaude> keith_, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[22:40] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo envyng-gtk
[22:40] <bucky> aaron_ me next.. can i help?
[22:40] <dethaddr> DasEi: cmd not found
[22:41] <keith_> i'm getting error messages when i try to install the nvidia-settings program
[22:41] <keith_> should i post here or take it to pm?
[22:41] <thiebaude> keith_, here, so ppl can try to help
[22:41] <htorres11393> this may be off topic but i'm here already and you guys seem to know so how do i pm in xchat?
[22:41] <keith_> oh, nvm
[22:41] <thiebaude> ok
[22:41] <keith_> synaptic was running
[22:42] <keith_> right click on the username
[22:42] <htorres11393> then what?
[22:42] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo envyng -k
[22:42] <keith_> open dialog window
[22:42] <htorres11393> ok
[22:42] <htorres11393> thanks man
[22:43] <DasEi> dethaddr: uninstall the selected driver
[22:43] <bucky> aaron_ did you plug a 4 pin connector from you PS into an eight pin on you motherboard?
[22:44] <Knifeyspooney> What does it mean when a program is in "complain mode" on Apparmor? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/283326/plain/ . Should ntpd be in complain mode or can I remove it?
[22:44] <bucky> aaron_ does you vid card take an extra power source?
[22:44] <Knifeyspooney> woops wrong link: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/283326/
[22:45] <ikonia> bucky: he left a while ago
[22:45] <keith_> so the computer i'm on is not acknowledging i have the drivers installed, the nvidia installation says it is, and says its sucessful, but it won't run
[22:45] <ryanprior> Hello there. I can use Audacity to record using my headset microphone, but Skype doesn't hear anything from it. What can I do to get Skype working?
[22:45] <thiebaude> keith_, you have to save it as root
[22:45] <keith_> i'm not positive but i think the nvidia kernel could have something to do with it
[22:45] <keith_> how do i go about saving it?
[22:45] <optimizer> anyone know of a good laser mouse that works on glass?
[22:45] <keith_> clear glass?
[22:46] <bucky> ikonia, he gets a refund!
[22:46] <thiebaude> keith_, gksudo nvidia-settings
[22:46] <metalf8801> why don't you put a mouse pad on top of the glass?
[22:46] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, complain mode is what your wondering about?
[22:46] <metalf8801> the wrist support ones are good
[22:46] <eduardocorreia3> #ubuntu-br
[22:47] <Knifeyspooney> stlsaint: Yes, it comes up at boot and brings me out of bootsplash to show me that warning
[22:47] <ryanprior> I can use Audacity to record using my headset microphone, but Skype doesn't hear anything from it. What can I do to get Skype working?
[22:47] <keith_> i get this message when i attempt to run nvidia-settings :You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. , then when i go to nvidia-xconfig i get : You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[22:48] <keith_> sry 2nd msg wrong
[22:48] <DasEi> dethaddr: well, that card sure is good for tv/movies,  but still no gamer-card in commonsense
[22:48] <keith_> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[22:48] <keith_> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[22:48] <keith_>                   Device section "Configured Video Device" must have a Driver
[22:48] <keith_>                   line.
[22:48] <keith_> ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[22:48] <FloodBot1> keith_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <keith_> keith@keith-desktop:~$ gksudo nvidia-settings
[22:48] <Scunizi> keith_: go to System>Admin>Hardware drivers and see if there is an nvidia driver in there that you need to put a "tic" mark next to.
[22:49] <dethaddr> DasEi: even movies are choppy. and in theory im only playing diablo II
[22:49] <ChogyDan> keith_: run nvidia-config
[22:49] <aBTaNa> how to update packages
[22:49] <DasEi> dethaddr: so envy removed ?  sudo synaptic              then
[22:49] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, what app is in complain mode?
[22:49] <keith_> no drivers for gfx card appear in hardware settings
[22:49] <dethaddr> DasEi: i just installed ubuntu last night on this pc.
[22:50] <VCoolio> aBTaNa: what you want: synaptic, update-manager; sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:50] <dethaddr> DasEi:yes removed.
[22:50] <keith_> i'll just gather all the relevant info i have and post a link
[22:50] <DasEi> dethaddr: ah,moment
[22:50] <Scunizi> keith_: did you look..? is there a driver there that needs activating?
[22:50] <Petein> howcome and with the ubuntu update there is not actual update of firefox to firefox 3.5?
[22:50] <DasEi> dethaddr: before synaptic, do a : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:50] <Knifeyspooney> stlsaint: that pastebin I pasted ( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/283326/ ) shows that /usr/sbin/ntpd is in complain mode. That is the network time sync service right?
[22:50] <DasEi> !firefox-3.5
[22:50] <Scunizi> !ff35 > Petein
[22:51] <keith_> there aren't any drivers there to be activated
[22:51] <DasEi> Petein
[22:51] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney,  AppArmor profiles have two modes of execution:
[22:51] <stlsaint>     *
[22:51] <stlsaint>       Complaining/Learning: profile violations are permitted and logged. Useful for testing and developing new profiles.
[22:51] <stlsaint>     *
[22:51] <stlsaint>       Enforced/Confined: enforces profile policy as well as logging the violation.
[22:51] <FloodBot1> stlsaint: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, thats from ubuntu docs on apparmor
[22:52] <Kefka> OMG SOLERANT-DC WTF!!!
[22:52] <Petein> Scunizi: why is that?
[22:52] <Knifeyspooney> stlsaint: So is NTP supposed to be in complain mode, or can it be removed?
[22:52] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, complain mode can be used for debugging
[22:52] <Knifeyspooney> a.k.a. put into 'normal' mode (I don't know much about apparmor)
[22:52] <VCoolio> Petein: these kind of upgrades are considered sort of 'big', so ubuntu doesn't add them because it's not tested enough etc.; you can install it side by side with ff 3.1 though
[22:52] <Petein> Scunizi: im apt get installing it
[22:52] <Scunizi> Petein: that works.. just a different package.
[22:52] <sebsebseb> !language |  Kefka
[22:52] <Kefka> I thought about this... as an everyone type command or something
[22:53] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, see here.... https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/apparmor.html
[22:53] <mgv1> do you neet pdf download on ubuntu?
[22:53] <dethaddr> DasEi: so after trhe update. whats the next command?
[22:53] <Scunizi> mgv1: ?  what do you mean?
[22:53] <Eric_xtc> Hello?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> !pdf |  mgv1
[22:54] <sebsebseb> mgv1: nothing for opening PDF's  installed by default I think
[22:54] <sebsebseb> mgv1: acstusaully there  might be
[22:54] <Chousuke> isn't evince installed by default?
[22:54] <MenZa> sebsebseb: evince is installed by default.
[22:54] <Eric_xtc> Hello anybody?
[22:54] <thiebaude> !evince
[22:54] <DasEi> dethaddr: you have a new kernel installed (linux-image...) , then got to reboot : sudo reboot
[22:54] <sebsebseb> MenZa: ok
[22:54] <sebsebseb> MenZa: ty  I guess
[22:54] <coldflame23> !gnome
[22:54] <mgv1> Scunizi, in windows downloading pdf can make the computer freeze
[22:54] <fccf> !hi | Eric_xtc
[22:54] <MenZa> Scunizi: That's because Adobe Reader is horrible.
[22:55] <coldflame23> !cowsay
[22:55] <mgv1> Scunizi, ubuntu have pdf opener - not a very good one but still nice
[22:55] <MenZa> coldflame23: Please don't do that.
[22:55] <MenZa> mgv1: evince exceeds adobe reader in viewing quality.
[22:55] <thiebaude> mgv1, pdf isn't installed by default in windows
[22:55] <Scunizi> mgv1: pdf's are natively viewable in ububuntu.. you should be able to just double click the file and it will open
[22:55] <MenZa> nor does it have any useless bloat.
[22:55] <Knifeyspooney> stlsaint: I still don't fully understand what AppArmor is.. is it a debugging program? I'm using this as a desktop, i'm not developing Ubuntu
[22:55] <seidos> anyone installed rtorrent?
[22:55] <keith_> here is my problem, with some of the errors i have: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1277880
[22:55] <Scunizi> mgv1: there's others.. xpdf etc.. search synaptic for other options
[22:56] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, apparmor is a security module used to control what apps are allowed to do and not do...
[22:56]  * thiebaude evince is excellent
[22:56] <mgv1> Scunizi, im talking about the firefox extention - does it requierd to prevent freezings?
[22:56] <Eric_xtc> Hey im new to [K]Ubuntu can anybody help please?
[22:56] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, protects you from an attacker trying to use a exploit in a app to do malicious activity...apparmor uses type enforcment
[22:56] <Eric_xtc> PM me
[22:56] <dethaddr> DasEi: install completed
[22:56] <jrib> !ask | Eric_xtc
[22:57] <stlsaint> Knifeyspooney, sort of like RBAC but uses types instead...
[22:57] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo reboot,  cya soon ;-)
[22:57] <thiebaude> Eric_xtc, what is your question to the channel?
[22:57] <barqs> Howcome, when I install emerald, then install a emerald theme, replace window decoration with emerald --replace and run emerald --replace. the window border doesn't change
[22:57] <dethaddr> DasEi: ok. brb
[22:57] <Eric_xtc> How do you set up themes form Gnome-look.org? I got emerald installed and got the theme in a .emerald format what do i do?
[22:57] <Scunizi> mgv1: I have no idea
[22:58] <pukeko> im dd-ing the OS partition of my workstation to another drive, which i want to put in another box, what do i need to watch out for regarding GRUB ?
[22:58] <VCoolio> Eric_xtc: open emerald theme manager, install the theme with that; than enable emerald as window decorator with "emerald --replace"
[22:59] <Eric_xtc> what do you mean emerald -- replace?
[22:59] <VCoolio> Eric_xtc: run that in the "alt+F2" window or in a terminal
[23:00] <VCoolio> Eric_xtc: also add it in compiz' window decorations plugin as a command for window decorator, otherwise next time you login you won't have borders
[23:00] <barqs> can anyone help me with this?
[23:00] <Scunizi> keith_: the first time is always the hardest :)... you'll need to install build-essential.. then you need to use synaptic and search for "nvidia".. uninstall all the preinstalled ubuntu nvidia bits.. restart gdm.. drop to a shell with CTRL+ALT+F2 and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop.. then navigate to your nvidia driver and install.. next sudo reboot now to restart the system.
[23:00] <Amaranth> Why are you manually installing the nvidia driver?
[23:01] <Scunizi> bug fixes?
[23:01] <Eric_xtc> vcoolio: pm me i don't get how to do this im like TOTALLY NEW to this
[23:01] <Scunizi> speed
[23:01] <keith_> thanks scunizi
[23:01] <Amaranth> Scunizi: Do you know for a fact it fixes a bug he is having?
[23:01] <Eric_xtc> i got emerald themer and compiz open but idk what to do im like mixed up
[23:01] <Amaranth> Scunizi: Because that's most likely going to break the next time his Xorg, mesa, or kernel is updated.
[23:01] <Scunizi> Amaranth: he has no driver available for his card and needs the latest version.
[23:02] <Amaranth> keith_: there is a better way
[23:02] <keith_> ok
[23:02] <Amaranth> !envy | keith_
[23:02] <Scunizi> Amaranth: oh yea.. it will break (attn: keith).. and he'll have to reinstall the driver at that point.. that the pain you pay to play with the binary driver
[23:03] <Amaranth> Scunizi: You don't have that pain with envy, it sets up the driver just like the package would so upgrades don't break it
[23:03] <Scunizi> Amaranth: he's been the envy route with no joy.. it's also not supported..
[23:03] <Scunizi> !envy > Amaranth
[23:03] <Amaranth> Scunizi: Not supported but not going to break
[23:03] <stlsaint> !envy
[23:03] <Amaranth> Scunizi: Why did you send me something I just gave to keith_? I know what it says.
[23:03] <Scunizi> keith_: installing dkms might solve the "reinstall" issue with the binary driver..
[23:04] <dethaddr> back
[23:04] <keith_> alright, i'm gonna try it
[23:04] <Amaranth> Scunizi: The guy that works on envy also maintains Xorg for Ubuntu so...
[23:04] <barqs> Can someone help me with emerald theme manager?
[23:04] <Scunizi> Amaranth: so.....  He's already tried it and it didn't work.
[23:05] <Amaranth> !doesn't work
[23:05]  * Amaranth loves that one
[23:05] <thiebaude> haha
[23:05] <Scunizi> Unless I'm mixing him up with someone else..
[23:05] <sebsebseb> !love
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Amaranth: I like that one :)
[23:05] <Amaranth> sebsebseb: Funny that, I added both of them...
[23:05] <Amaranth> Anyway...
[23:05] <barqs> Can someone tell me why when I install an emerald theme it doesn't change the window borders?
[23:05] <bucky> my ubuntu doesn't work.. i want a refund
[23:05] <barqs> it seems to have no effect
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Amaranth: yeah !work is a great one
[23:06] <dethaddr> DasEi: ok so im back. what is the next step?
[23:06] <chris_> hey on my desktop on xubuntu 8.04, the taskbar with the menu options disappeared, how can i get it back
[23:06] <Varth> Has anyone managed to get multi-touch working on the Lenovo S10 trackpad under Ubuntu? I'm at a loss as to where to start...
[23:06] <Amaranth> barqs: You have to switch your decorator to emerald
[23:06] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo synaptic
[23:06] <Amaranth> barqs: You'll have to do it on every login
[23:06] <Amaranth> Varth: We don't have multitouch support yet
[23:07] <barqs> Amaranth: I ran emerald --replace but it doesn't work
[23:07] <Amaranth> Varth: Even once we have support for it (probably Ubuntu 10.10) apps need to be modified to use it
[23:07] <barqs> Amaranth: I also changed window decoration command in compiz to emerald --replace but it still does not work?
[23:07] <Varth> Amaranth: Ah, I see. I just really want two-finger scroll... ;_;
[23:07] <Amaranth> barqs: That second part is a known bug I'm not too interested in fixing
[23:08] <Amaranth> Varth: That part we might be able to make work. It works for macbooks
[23:09] <DasEi> search nvidia
[23:09] <Amaranth> Varth: you have to put this in your xorg.conf: Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "1"
[23:09] <creative_> wow .. a lot of members !!
[23:09] <Amaranth> creative_: in about 3 weeks we'll have at least 400 more :)
[23:10] <dethaddr> DasEi: yea now what do i grab from synapsys?
[23:10] <sebsebseb> creative_: nearly 1500 people in here earlier
[23:10] <Varth> Amaranth: Then I'm assuming I have to restart X, right?
[23:10] <Amaranth> Varth: yep
[23:10] <creative_> Amaranth : wow !! Great ..!!
[23:10] <DasEi> dethaddr: see the 173 ond 180 ?
[23:10] <Amaranth> Varth: logging out will do that
[23:10] <Varth> Amaranth: Alright. Back in a sec.
[23:11] <d1scodustin> Ubuntu question: Is there anyway I can increase the speed of my internet via Ubuntu?
[23:11] <creative_> OK , C ya
[23:11] <DasEi> dethaddr: choose the 173
[23:11] <Amaranth> d1scodustin: No, your connection is controlled by your ISP
[23:11] <d1scodustin> ok :(
[23:11] <Amaranth> d1scodustin: You could get Opera 10 which has a "speed boost" mode for websites
[23:12] <d1scodustin> no thanks, lol. i'm content with firefox.
[23:12] <Amaranth> d1scodustin: But if your connection is faster than 1mbit it'll actually slow it down
[23:12] <DasEi> ** that would increase slow connections only
[23:12] <d1scodustin> firefox will?
[23:12] <Amaranth> d1scodustin: No, he was talking about Opera 10
[23:12] <d1scodustin> oh
[23:13] <DasEi> dethaddr: 173 installed ?
[23:13] <d1scodustin> I thought he was implying that Firefox actually slows your connection down if your connection is faster than 1mb.
[23:13] <Petein> whats wrong with this class: http://codepad.org/2FSAWdW0 ?
[23:13] <keith_> well, envy didn't work
[23:13] <dethaddr> DasEi: i just.. found it. i got distracted by roomates...
[23:13] <RegressLess> I deactivated "show desktop" in nautalis and can't find it again to fix it. Can someone help?
[23:13] <FinnTux> so karmic is supposed to support root on iscsi? just downloaded the beta and booted a diskless machine with it but no iscsi. is there any special requirements?
[23:14] <thiebaude> !9.10
[23:14] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  FinnTux
[23:14] <FinnTux> ok, thanks
[23:14] <sebsebseb> FinnTux: np
[23:15] <TechN9ne> has there been any updates on getting ipod touch to work in ubuntu without VB,Dual boot or SSH?
[23:15] <d1scodustin> How can I get the most out of my connection in Ubuntu?
[23:15] <thiebaude> !ipod
[23:16] <dethaddr> DasEi: installed
[23:16] <sadrolla> i can not use my web cam : ls usb == > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:16] <Amaranth> TechN9ne: Yes, the 10.04 release of Ubuntu will at least have support for syncing contacts, calendars, and photos from it
[23:16] <MK13> i would like to start programming from ubuntu, but i want to be able to run the program debugged like visual studio does (to help against corrupting memory when I am off while using pointers) is there a way to do this in ubuntu?
[23:16] <DasEi> dethaddr: so again : /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:16] <Amaranth> TechN9ne: Everything else is still impossible
[23:17] <Dylan_> resisting urge to grab the new beta
[23:17] <RegressLess> I deactivated "show desktop" in nautalis and can't find it again to fix it. Can someone help?
[23:17] <sadrolla> i can not use my web cam : lsusb == > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:17] <safruhani> hi, i've 8 part of a video, how can i merge them?
[23:17] <grow1er> hey, what do you guys use to edit id3 tags?
[23:18] <michael_> hello
[23:18] <barqers> Amaranth: Sorry the internet cut out. Do you know why the emerald theme manager isn't working? alt+f2 and then emerald --replace doesn't work!
[23:18] <michael_> hello
[23:18] <bucky> olleh
[23:18] <Amaranth> safruhani: mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy -o final.avi 1.avi 2.avi 3.avi 4.avi 5.avi 6.avi 7.avi 8.avi
[23:18] <sadrolla> hi ,i can not use my web cam : lsusb == > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:18] <dethaddr> DasEi: fail
[23:18] <Amaranth> barqers: No idea, try #compiz
[23:19] <safruhani> wonderful Amaranth thank you
[23:19] <DasEi> dethaddr: what kind of monitor do you use ?
[23:19] <Eric_xtc> how do you run xgl on compiz on kde?
[23:19] <dethaddr> A Dell
[23:19] <sadrolla> hi ,i can not use my web cam : lsusb == > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:20] <Guest33105> hi
[23:20] <mark___> barqers: Install fusion-icon  it will make your life easier.  You can go into emerald theme manager and CCSM, swicth between compiz and metacity and change themes all from this program (start it to put an icon nr your clock on a default ubuntu install)
[23:20] <VCoolio> Eric_xtc: did you read this? ^ ^ ^
[23:21] <maxflax> Where is the networkmanager config file at?
[23:21] <MTec007> Hello all, I'm looking for a bit of help with wifi. I have wifi working fine most of the time using ndiswrapper with but heres where it gets a bit thick.. It seems like when ever I have a lot of traffic in and out the wifi freezes up, while it does not disconnect, I can't do anything online until I disable networking, enable it, and reconnect to my WLAN.
[23:21] <Eric_xtc> no
[23:21] <Eric_xtc> lol
[23:21] <VCoolio> Eric_xtc: keep it in mind for if you've fixed the xgl thing
[23:21] <barqers> mark___
[23:21] <thiebaude> mark___, i got that fusion-icon and when i click on it nothing happens
[23:21] <barqers> mark___: How do I use this? Thanks for the info!
[23:21] <VCoolio> thiebaude: right click
[23:22] <mark___> no icon by the clock? right click on it
[23:22] <thiebaude> VCoolio, thanks
[23:22] <thiebaude> VCoolio, ok i see
[23:22] <dethaddr> DasEi: like a 16" maybe. would that matter?
[23:22] <mark___> MTec007: have you tried changing channels?
[23:23] <MTec007> mark___,  Yes I've tried 6 10 and 11
[23:23] <fuminori> Has anyone else had problems installing the Karmic beta? I get "Cannot read from boot CD" when selecting install
[23:23] <sadrolla> hi ,i can not use my web cam : lsusb == > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:23] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  fuminori
[23:24] <fuminori> ty
[23:24] <sebsebseb> fuminori: np
[23:24] <mark___> MTec007, I had something like this and it was the USB power level on the port.  I put it through a powered hub and it was better
[23:24] <trece8> do anyone know where can I get some wiki page at wiki.linuxmusicians.com ?
[23:24] <barqers> mark___: I don't get an icon by the clock, what do I do? :S
[23:24] <MTec007> mark___, Do you think it could be just my router? I didn't have this issue with *other* nonfree OS'es
[23:24] <DasEi> maybe, get : http://de.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nvidia-xconfig/nvidia-xconfig-1.0.tar.gz
[23:24] <trece8> Tried the wayback machine, but it doesn't have the page filed
[23:24] <MTec007> mark___, well I'm using a PCMCIA card
[23:25] <mark___> go to Application > System tools and it should be there
[23:25] <DasEi> dethaddr:  maybe, get : http://de.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nvidia-xconfig/nvidia-xconfig-1.0.tar.gz
[23:25] <Varth> Amaranth: Hey, it didn't work.
[23:25] <barqers> mark___ I don't even have a system tools section
[23:25] <d1scodustin> Is there anyway I can set firefox to have very high priority automatically when it opens instead of having to change the setting everytime?
[23:26] <mark___> MTec007: it could be the router
[23:26] <DasEi> dethaddr: I assume it's on your desk, cli : sudo cp ~/Desktop/nvidia*  /usr/src
[23:26] <ab2qik> hi having probs with gnome
[23:27] <mark___> go to a terminal and type fusion-icon
[23:27] <dethaddr> DasEi: yes
[23:27] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd /usr/src
[23:27] <DasEi> dethaddr: ls            ,check if file there
[23:27] <MTec007> mark___, Not what I'd like to hear but I guess I can use this as an excuse to get a DD-WRT capable router...
[23:27] <britt> i have a OLD sony picturebook. i have a orinoco card for it but id like to get my prism card working with it. does ubuntu have a good prism driver that i can use with iwconfig?
[23:27] <boscop> I have chm2pdf installed but when I run it, I get an error: No such file or directory: "/tmp/tmp_5s6n1/O'Reilly - Learning GNU Emacs 3rd Edition/urlslist.txt" what is wrong?
[23:27] <ab2qik> moved contents of /usr to a new lvm partition mounted on /mnt/usr
[23:27] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo apt-get install unp
[23:28] <ThePhoenixBird> by any chance does someone has a google wave invite to share with me?
[23:28] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo unp nvidia*
[23:28] <MTec007> ThePhoenixBird, are you sure that it works that way?
[23:28] <ThePhoenixBird> yep
[23:28] <mark___> Mtec007: yes.  You could always test it by either A) connecting to another router and try flooding the connection or B) using a cheap USB wifi =)
[23:28] <ThePhoenixBird> look at twitter
[23:28] <sled> hello again
[23:28] <ikonia> ThePhoenixBird: please don't ask in here
[23:28] <ThePhoenixBird> http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23googlewave
[23:28] <ab2qik> any ideas on gnome config file?
[23:29] <boscop> ThePhoenixBird: google wave is just another google tool to get your private data
[23:29] <ThePhoenixBird> ikonia mmm sorry :(
[23:29] <MTec007> ThePhoenixBird, I don't twitter
[23:29] <ab2qik> gnome for jaunty
[23:29] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd nvidia-xconfig-1.0
[23:29] <sebsebseb> !ot |  ThePhoenixBird
[23:30] <sled> I just installed the newest ATI driver for my radeon HD 3470 card and I want to setup a dualhead configuration. I want to extend my laptop monitor. It works fine BUT I need two different resolutions, does anybody know how I can setup two different resolutions for each screen? It worked fine with the open source driver but I hadn't any 3D acceleration :/
[23:30] <Eric_xtc> Is Ubuntu better than Kubntu?
[23:30] <chalcedony> I show this in my firefox preferences: chrome://ubufox/content/startpage.html  why isn't this the regular google start page? is this /chrome/ ? it's been there since i upgraded to 9.04
[23:30] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: that's personal choice, try them, see what you like
[23:30] <MTec007> mark___, ok thanks
[23:30] <mark___> np
[23:30] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf_synapt
[23:30] <boscop> Eric_xtc: do you know the difference?
[23:31] <Eric_xtc> No
[23:31] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo nvidia-config
[23:31] <boscop> Eric_xtc: ubuntu has gnome as desktop, kubuntu has kde
[23:31] <Varth> Amaranth: Any other ideas?
[23:31] <Eric_xtc> ive heard of Edubuntu, Xubuntu, and Chubuntu
[23:31] <Anonymus> XD
[23:31] <Eric_xtc> oh okay
[23:31] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: chubuntu is nothing to do with ubuntu
[23:31] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo nvidia-xconfig           ,sorry^
[23:31] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: read ubuntu.com for official releases
[23:31] <boscop> Eric_xtc: xubuntu has xfce
[23:31] <Eric_xtc> okay
[23:31] <ab2qik> getting need to correct /var/lib/gdm on jaunty
[23:31] <Eric_xtc> and what is xfce?
[23:31] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: another desktop
[23:31] <DasEi> !desktop > Eric_xtc
[23:31] <boscop> another desktop system
[23:32] <britt> is there another channel for technical issues with ubuntu?
[23:32] <ab2qik>  need to correct /var/lib/gdm on jaunty
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Eric_xtc: XFCE is a bit like Gnome, but more light waight,  you can install xubuntu-desktop and try it if you want
[23:32] <dethaddr> dasei: every thing tells me command not found
[23:32] <boscop> I have chm2pdf installed but when I run it, I get an error: No such file or directory: "/tmp/tmp_5s6n1/O'Reilly - Learning GNU Emacs 3rd Edition/urlslist.txt" what is wrong?
[23:32] <sadrolla> hi , i can not use my web cam , whjo can help me ?
[23:32] <ikonia> !webcam > sadrolla
[23:32] <ab2qik> pls help
[23:32] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, im back my mobo takes both ddr1 and ddr2 so I changed out the ddr2 with some ddr1 and now the cache is low and ram usage low........... so might be bad ram mods?
[23:32] <Eric_xtc> oh
[23:32] <DasEi> dethaddr: eerm, where do you hang ?
[23:33] <barqshasbite> mark___ that made my screen white and i had to restart
[23:33] <barqshasbite> Is there any reason why emerald theme manager won't work on my computer??
[23:33] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: could be, have a ubuntu-desktop cd ?
[23:33] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, I ran the mem check and it said 30% pass but with no errors
[23:33] <mark___> barqshasbite: when you restarted did you get a system tools menu in applications?
[23:34] <Eric_xtc> What distro do you guys use? anybody
[23:34] <dethaddr> DasEi: ugh.. im a dumbass.
[23:34] <barqshasbite> mark___ nope.
[23:34] <splat_> FC11
[23:34] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: doesn't matter what we use - try what you want
[23:34] <dethaddr> DasEi: the file wasnt on the desktop
[23:34] <S0LIDUS> Hey guy's, just wanted to know what packages I need to install to get EXT4 support on hardy.
[23:34] <DasEi> Eric_xtc: ubuntu here , #kubuntu is there..
[23:34] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: the topic of this channel is ubuntu support so we are really only going to support ubuntu
[23:34] <kal> ls
[23:34] <ikonia> S0LIDUS: you don't
[23:34] <kal> lol
[23:34] <Eric_xtc> oh um okay
[23:34] <DasEi> dethaddr: k, can you follow it up ?
[23:35] <kal> hey, hi.
[23:35] <sebsebseb> S0LIDUS: there might be a way, but it could mess things up, and woudn't be suppourted in here or on the forums
[23:35] <Eric_xtc> Does anyone know anybody that runs BSD?
[23:35] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: try the bsd support room
[23:35] <barqshasbite> I don't get what's wrong with this computer? Emerald doesn't work at all, yet on my other computer, it works perfectly fine...
[23:35] <dethaddr> maybe let me try.
[23:35] <DasEi> Eric_xtc: #linux
[23:35] <S0LIDUS> I would have thought it would be a simple process?
[23:35] <mark___> barqshasbite: compiz is running, yes?
[23:36] <ikonia> S0LIDUS: no - very not simple
[23:36] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, does 30% pass mean it only passed at a 30% level?
[23:36] <Eric_xtc> Okay i'll install Ubuntu then
[23:36] <Eric_xtc> later
[23:36] <sebsebseb> Eric_xtc: hold on
[23:36] <SaMaDi>  :D
[23:36] <sabayonweb_91075> hi guys i have ubuntu 9.10 alpha 6 and when i try to install frost wire i get an error
[23:36] <sabayonweb_91075> its a deb file
[23:37] <Eric_xtc> yea.........
[23:37] <ikonia> !9.10 | sabayonweb_91075
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Eric_xtc: Gnome, KDE, and XFCE, and so on, you can have all of those in a standard Ubuntu install
[23:37] <barqshasbite> mark___ Actually, now that I think of it, I just tried to turn on wobbly windows, but it doesn't work. So I guess it's not running? How do I get it running?
[23:37] <optimizer> what resolution is a 720p camera?
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Eric_xtc: Ubuntu would be the base, kernel and all that, with whatever desktop environment or window manager that you want, on top of it
[23:37] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: a whole memtest takes hours, if it stopped at 30% you got a problem there, and mostly also can see errors then, memtest is something you can run over night, though most faults detect earlier, view /var/log/syslog for issues
[23:37] <S0LIDUS> Grrrr, I have ext4 hdd's on my blades (Jaunty). But wanted the same great file system on hardy. So there definitely is no way of doing it then?
[23:37] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi,  ok
[23:37] <Eric_xtc> okay. So it's all the same $#1^?
[23:37] <sabayonweb_91075> i have ubuntu 9.10 alpha 6 on my computer and love it but how do i install frostwaire.deb i keep getting an error
[23:38] <mark___> barqshasbite: first, check to see if there are any hardware drivers for your card in your PC.  System > Administration > Hardware drivers
[23:38] <ikonia> S0LIDUS: not really
[23:38] <Eric_xtc> frostwire is gay
[23:38] <Eric_xtc> try ares
[23:38] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: stop that
[23:38] <Anonymus> XD
[23:38] <Anonymus> ...
[23:38] <Eric_xtc> ares galaxy 2.0.9
[23:38] <Eric_xtc> stop what?
[23:38] <sabayonweb_91075> i know but all deb files fail in 9.10
[23:38] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: being derogatory
[23:38] <LjL> eric_xtc: frostwire likes same-sex torrents?
[23:38] <Eric_xtc> being what?
[23:38] <sabayonweb_91075> i tyred frostwire, limewire, urban terror all deb files and they do not work
[23:38] <S0LIDUS> Ok thanks for the info guys!
[23:39] <dethaddr> nvidia-xconfig-1.0.tar.gz is red in the /usr/src$ location. is that normal?
[23:39] <sadrolla> ubottu: hi , i don,t know mark my web cam
[23:39] <barqshasbite> mark___ That's odd, the accelerated driver turned itself off apparently? Or I never activated it... Hmm.. I activated the recommended driver.
[23:39] <sadrolla> ubottu: u can help me ?
[23:39] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: using the phrase gay in a negative way
[23:39] <sebsebseb> !hi |  sadrolla
[23:39] <Eric_xtc> oh um sorry
[23:39] <sabayonweb_91075> i need some help
[23:39] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: uh wrong one
[23:39] <barqshasbite> mark___ It seems to be downloading at the moment
[23:39] <sebsebseb> !bot |  sadrolla
[23:39] <mark___> barqshasbite: then try wobbly windows :-)  if thats ok try running fusion-icon again
[23:40] <LjL> sabayonweb_91075: ask in #ubuntu+1 since you're using an unsupported version
[23:40] <Eric_xtc> does anybody use the Matthew Farrel theme?
[23:40] <tk8> hi, just installed atd and want to make sure it boots on start..  working from command line, how would i get it to boot?
[23:40] <sabayonweb_91075> .DEB Files fail to install in ubuntu 9.10 alpha 6 what do i do
[23:40] <LjL> sabayonweb_91075: read.
[23:40] <dethaddr> DasEi:nvidia-xconfig-1.0.tar.gz is red in the /usr/src$ location. is that normal?
[23:40] <sabayonweb_91075> yes
[23:40] <Flannel> sebsebseb: Use your words, not factoids.
[23:40] <DasEi> !karmic | sabayonweb_91075
[23:41] <DasEi> dethaddr: yes
[23:41] <barqshasbite> mark___ Thank you very much! I guess I will have to remember to do that first from now on. Thank you once again :)
[23:41] <Eric_xtc> HELLO ANYBODY USE THE MATTHEW FARREL THEME!!!?!?!?!?!?
[23:41] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: don't use caps -
[23:41] <mark___> barqshasbite: no problem.. you get fusion-icon up?
[23:41] <Chun1> Hi - I downloaded and installed a set of icons, which contained tray icons for pidgin - the icons all work but the pidgin icons in the taskbar haven't changed. Any suggestions?
[23:41] <Eric_xtc> why?
[23:41] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: I'm not aware of that theme, but if you look on say gnome-look.org you may find reviews
[23:41] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: If you provide some details about your web cam,  like which type of web cam it is,  and which program you tried to get it working in, someone might be able to help you.  Webcams aren't my area, but there's a program called cheese which might be able to configure yours.
[23:41] <sabayonweb_91075> maybe the deb files are nor compiles to run in ubuntu 9.10 alpha 6 is that maybe why they are failing
[23:41] <LjL> Eric_xtc: because it's annoying.
[23:41] <ikonia> !caps > Eric_xtc
[23:41] <jrib> Eric_xtc: in general, don't <insert annoying thing here>
[23:42] <sabayonweb_91075> anyone else have ubuntu 9.10
[23:42] <Eric_xtc> okay?......wow
[23:42] <barqshasbite> mark___ Haven't gotten to try yet, but it should work now right? Ubuntu seems to be stuck on downloading drivers lol
[23:42] <ikonia> sabayonweb_91075: 9.10 support is in #ubuntu+1 please
[23:42] <sabayonweb_91075> ok
[23:42] <Eric_xtc> sabayonweb_91075: i do
[23:42] <sabayonweb_91075> #ubuntu+1
[23:42] <ikonia> sabayonweb_91075: /join #ubuntu+1
[23:43] <sabayonweb_91075> i got it
[23:43] <mark___> barqshasbite: no reason why not.  If it crashes again re-check your binary drivers havent deactivated :)
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Flannel: ok
[23:43] <Eric_xtc> sabayonweb_91075:did you order it like i did?
[23:43] <sabayonweb_91075> no i downloaded it
[23:43] <sabayonweb_91075> its fricken awasome :]
[23:44] <Eric_xtc> Download version don't work as good they come with missing files
[23:44] <Ddorda> hello. i want to check which  apha i'm using, is there any command for that?
[23:44] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: sabayonweb_91075 please take 9.10 discussion to #ubuntu+1
[23:45] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: No point pming me about your web cam, since I can't help you with it,  the details you provided in pm might be useful, for someone that knows how to configure them in Ubuntu.   There's also a help page that might be useful.
[23:45] <dethaddr> DasEi:  cd nvidia-xconfig-1.0
[23:45] <sebsebseb> !webcam |  sadrolla
[23:45] <stlsaint> Dorne, uname -a
[23:46] <dopiwan> anyone running on a eee pc?
[23:46] <DasEi> dethaddr:(blah~/nvidia-xconfig-1.0$)               sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:46] <stlsaint> Ddorda, sorry thought you meant alpha
[23:46] <DasEi> dethaddr : (blah~/nvidia-xconfig-1.0$)               sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:47] <Ddorda> stlsaint: uname -a doesn't help... i need to know which alpha...
[23:47] <sadrolla> ubottu: my web cam is not on list " https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras " i can install my web cam ?
[23:47] <dopiwan> anyone running on a laptop or netbook using 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller ??
[23:47] <Eric_xtc> Any girls in here?
[23:48] <maco> awww i was going to tell him "no, i just stepped out"
[23:48] <stlsaint> Ddorda, lsb_release -icr
[23:48] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: Ubottu  can be rather useful, thing is  ubottu is not a person,  ubottu is a computer program.  As a result it can't help you,  except maybe for those web cam links it gave.
[23:48] <Blizzerand> maco : Did he get kicked out
[23:48] <maco> yes ikonia got him
[23:48] <Blizzerand> whats ikona , an admin
[23:49] <dethaddr> DasEi: nope. it does nothing
[23:49] <LjL> no need to leave a trail of discussion *about* the kick, now.
[23:49] <maco> Blizzerand: yes
[23:49] <maco> Blizzerand: ikonia is one of the many mods in this channel
[23:49] <Blizzerand> maco : k
[23:49] <Ddorda> stlsaint: doesn't help.. (
[23:49] <Blizzerand> LjL : lol
[23:49] <stlsaint> LjL, agreed we have all seen it...lets stick to the topic at hand ppl...ubuntu help
[23:50] <DasEi> dethaddr: you unpacked it and cd'd in the dir ? ls shows files ??
[23:50] <sebsebseb> Blizzerand maco: op
[23:50] <stlsaint> Ddorda, where did you get your distro from?
[23:50] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: oh :d , my web cam is not suported list , u think i can install my web cam ?
[23:50] <stlsaint> where ever you downloaded the alpha from is where you can tell which on it is
[23:50] <llua> >:0 whats the command to hide your host name /mode +x isnt working
[23:50] <llua> in irc
[23:50] <Ddorda> stlsaint: main site?
[23:51] <dethaddr> DasEi:nope. did not unpack it. what do i use to unpack it?
[23:51] <stlsaint> from distrowatch or cd-image?
[23:51] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo apt-get install unp
[23:51] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo unp nvidia*
[23:52] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd nvidia-xconfig-1.0
[23:52] <dethaddr> DasEi: the ls shows the file in red. but all the others are blue
[23:52] <dethaddr>  DasEi: i did all that.
[23:52] <VCoolio> ikonia: sorry, but what is the penalty for Eric_xtc? permanently banned, or for a period of time?
[23:52] <DasEi> dethaddr: red is the packed archive, blue is a directory, cd there
[23:52] <sebsebseb> Anyone in here know about getting web cams to work in Ubuntu?   If so maybe you can help sadrolla.   In a pm earlier they sent this lsusb ==> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:52] <LjL> VCoolio: ask that in #ubuntu-ops if intereste
[23:53] <ikonia> VCoolio: join #ubuntu-ops please
[23:53] <dethaddr>  DasEi: oooh haha
[23:53] <q_> .
[23:54] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: yes , my lsbusb ==> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[23:54] <Mark76> I wish people would stop staying logged into chatrooms when they aren't there :-(
[23:55] <dethaddr> DasEi: hardware says its active
[23:55] <Blizzerand> Is there any program like that of unetbootin , something similar , which can install things ( linux distros) on your OS , without any portable media
[23:55] <NineHams> Why is there no LVM option in the ubuntu partitioner?
[23:55] <bobo> So how stable is the Karmic beta compared to alpha 6?
[23:55] <funkiwan> kdesvn issue: having trouble trying to manage multiple identities for a repository. anyone familiar with the program?
[23:55] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: Didn't you also say in pm  that you aren't good at English?  If so  what's your language, so you can go to a channel in your language for Ubuntu help as well
[23:55] <dethaddr> but i wanna run an xconfig right?
[23:55] <Mark76> It makes me feel like I'm being snubbed
[23:55] <NineHams> Or at least, how do I set up LVM?
[23:55] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  bobo
[23:55] <DasEi> dethaddr: did the config-util ran through ?
[23:55] <Flannel> NineHams: You need the Alternate or server CDs, Desktop CD can't do it.
[23:55] <dethaddr> DasEi: i dont the so
[23:55] <Mark76> Is Karmic ready for daily use yet?
[23:56] <sebsebseb> Mark76: no
[23:56] <Mark76> Okay
[23:56] <Mark76> I'll leave it then
[23:56] <Flannel> Mark76: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic questions, and no.  It's beta for a reason.
[23:56] <sebsebseb> Mark76: well for some I guess it is, but the majority of Ubuntu users no
[23:56] <NineHams> Flannel: Is there a different way? Like installing the options via aptitude or something?
[23:56] <Blizzerand> Maek79 : Please use #ubuntu+1 for discussions
[23:56] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: those who not reqest my ask
[23:56] <Flannel> NineHams: sure, you could set up the LVM after you install and migrate it.  But that seems like a hassle.
[23:56] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd in the blue dir and run : sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:56] <maco> NineHams: use the alternate cd if you want lvm
[23:56] <NineHams> Flannel: It would be. Shouldn't I be able to install LVM manager from the live cd?
[23:57] <maco> NineHams: the live cd is meant to ask as few questins as possible
[23:57] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: Ok other than English which language do you speak?
[23:57] <NineHams> maco: I know. But is there a way?
[23:57] <Flannel> NineHams: Yeah, but I don't believe the installer knows how to handle it.  I might be mistaken though.  You could certainly try it.
[23:57] <NineHams> Flannel: Yes, I'm going to see if I could get it working
[23:57] <maco> NineHams: so that it can be *very* simple. can you imagine the confusion it'd induce to ask <insert non-tech person here> about a volume management system?  the alternate cd is made for more advanced users to do more advanced installs
[23:57] <Flannel> NineHams: Let me know if you do!
[23:57] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: no my  language is persion
[23:57] <dethaddr> DasEi: i dont know what you mean
[23:57] <maximash___> hi to you all... :) i'm on Karmic beta now and i can't install Ubuntu Tweak (from www.ubuntu-tweak.com), i tried 0.4.9 version for Karmic, is it a known issue or i do something wrong when installing?
[23:58] <Flannel> maximash___: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic questions, not here, thanks.
[23:58] <ikonia> !9.10 | maximash___
[23:58] <NineHams> maco: What are you talking about?
[23:58] <ubox> just in case anyone else ever needs to be able to do this, if you delete files (even on ext3) and want them back get foremost. package of the same name.
[23:58] <NineHams> maco: I just want to figure out how to install the LVM manager from the livecd
[23:58] <maximash___> thx, sorry... :)
[23:58] <Blizzerand> Is there any program like that of unetbootin , something similar , which can install things ( linux distros) on your OS , without any portable media . Anyone ???
[23:58] <ubox> i wiped my whole backup and am recovering it all now
[23:58] <maco> NineHams: the live cd doesnt have lvm on it at all, so it cant set it up on the machine
[23:59] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: Which countrey is that?
[23:59] <NineHams> maco: I meant a separate LVM manager
[23:59] <DasEi> dethaddr: ls shows you a file in blue..
[23:59] <maco> NineHams: separate?
[23:59] <Flannel> NineHams: The package is lvm2, I believe.
[23:59] <NineHams> Flannel: Oh, thanks, you saved me some time!
[23:59] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: is iran #ubuntu-ir
[23:59] <maco> NineHams: (i was trying to explain before *why* the livecd doesnt offer lvm)
[23:59] <jordy240> hi, why must I unmount all partitions higher than 5 to delete partition num. 5? it inconviences me to have to download and run gparted
[23:59] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd nvid>pressTABhere<
[23:59] <dethaddr> DasEi: yea. a bunch like 6 of em
[23:59] <NineHams> maco: oh, yes, I know why :)