| barry | rockstar: thanks for the comments. i feel the same way, but i wanted to explore this option. | 00:04 |
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| rockstar | barry, yea, exploring this is pretty cheap, so we should see all the options. | 00:05 |
| maxb | mwhudson: Hi | 00:07 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: how much work is involved in getting some bug-status like love for merge proposal status? | 00:07 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: (just curious, really) | 00:07 |
| mwhudson | maxb: hello | 00:07 |
| mwhudson | maxb: i wonder why i was pinging you :-) | 00:08 |
| maxb | :-) | 00:08 |
| mwhudson | oh right, that was it | 00:08 |
| rockstar | mwhudson, thumper's working on it, and I was told not to do it for him. :) | 00:08 |
| mwhudson | maxb: i think it would be a good thing to copy a few packages from karmic to the ~launchpad ppa (python-launchpadlib & dependencies) and have launchpad-developer-dependencies depend on them | 00:09 |
| mwhudson | maxb: does that sound sane? | 00:09 |
| mwhudson | i've just installed a bunch of karmic packages on jaunty, seems to be working, dunno about hardy... | 00:09 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: heh heh | 00:09 |
| maxb | hm. What are they needed for? | 00:10 |
| wgrant | That doesn't sound like a good idea. | 00:10 |
| wgrant | Won't it just break everything on the other releases with the lazr.* setuptools mess? | 00:11 |
| rockstar | mwhudson, I know he's got the branch status stuff in review right now, and that deryck has reviewed it. | 00:11 |
| mwhudson | maxb: 'ec2 land' does stuff with launchpadlib and can't use the eggs we have because launchpad is still stuck on 2.4 | 00:11 |
| mwhudson | maybe the real fix is to get launchpad on 2.5 asap | 00:11 |
| rockstar | maxb, mwhudson, wgrant, I might point out that it's been a habit that l-d-d tends to break in awkward ways every time we switch versions. | 00:11 |
| mwhudson | barry: hello | 00:12 |
| mwhudson | barry: Launchpad. Python 2.5. know what's going on there? | 00:12 |
| rockstar | mwhudson, I think gary was working on that. | 00:12 |
| * wgrant thought maxb was. | 00:12 | |
| maxb | mwhudson: erm "can't use the eggs we have" - hmm? | 00:12 |
| wgrant | Current 2.5 test failures are at https://dev.launchpad.net/LaunchpadOnKarmic | 00:12 |
| rockstar | Although it seems like gary is working on a lot of things, which may explain why it's slow going. | 00:12 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: oh that's a very useful page :) | 00:13 |
| maxb | rockstar: um, you can point that out, but what does that mean for the current discussion? | 00:14 |
| mwhudson | maxb: well, can't us /bin/py at least, because boto depends on python 2.5 | 00:14 |
| barry | mwhudson: hi. i don't. i'd love to help this along | 00:14 |
| barry | mwhudson: /me -> dinner | 00:14 |
| maxb | mwhudson: ah, ok- that makes sense | 00:14 |
| maxb | Status of LP on Python 2.5 is that people, me included, need to work on whittling the list on LaunchpadOnKarmic | 00:15 |
| maxb | If 'ec2 land' requires a system-python launchpadlib newer than available in older ubuntus, normally I would be all for a backport. | 00:16 |
| rockstar | maxb, LaunchpadOnKarmic is a misleading name, since I'm running Launchpad on Karmic right now. | 00:16 |
| maxb | However, the namespace package mess is a major blocker | 00:16 |
| maxb | You are right, the wiki page is now poorly named. | 00:16 |
| maxb | When I started it, I assumed that 2.4 on karmic was not a possibility | 00:16 |
| rockstar | maxb, I point this out in saying that we did this exact same thing with this same package on the Intrepid->Jaunty jump that caused breakages, but we weren't too concerned since it worked for Launchpad. | 00:17 |
| maxb | huh? 'exact same thing' | 00:17 |
| maxb | ? | 00:17 |
| * mwhudson lunches | 00:18 | |
| mwhudson | wgrant: i think i have just thumped into the "setuptools lazr namespace package" issue | 02:19 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: do you know a workaround? | 02:19 |
| mwhudson | oh, i think there's one on that handy wiki page | 02:20 |
| mwhudson | oh man W T F | 02:28 |
| mwhudson | apache is broken on my machine because fricking WINDMILL chokes on import if $PATH isn't set | 02:28 |
| mwhudson | well not broken, but unhappy | 02:29 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: I don't have any real breakage from the lazr setuptools issue. | 02:30 |
| wgrant | Apart from a few tests. | 02:30 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: i didn't have lazr.enum installed system wide | 02:30 |
| mwhudson | which seemed to break scripts/mirror-branch.py rather thoroughly | 02:31 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Yep, codehosting script tests are broken. | 02:32 |
| wgrant | Fortunately I haven't had cause to touch codehosting much lately. | 02:32 |
| * wgrant lunches. | 02:32 | |
| mwhudson | thumper: come back, it's too quiet here | 03:26 |
| MTecknology | You should all feel sorry for me.. | 03:29 |
| MTecknology | I'm about to make a sync from Launchpad to Drupal... | 03:29 |
| MTecknology | for 4 projects | 03:29 |
| wgrant | This side of the world is rapidly running out of LP engineers. | 03:36 |
| MTecknology | wgrant: I'll be trying to do some LP dev pretty soon | 03:39 |
| wgrant | MTecknology: You are not on my side of the world! | 03:41 |
| MTecknology | wgrant: I could be | 03:42 |
| MTecknology | more and more, cvs irks me | 03:46 |
| MTecknology | I know I made changes - but cvs won't listen | 03:47 |
| mwhudson | hmm | 05:38 |
| mwhudson | make build is failing on the python2.5 branch | 05:38 |
| * mwhudson EOWs | 06:02 | |
| al-maisan | Good morning! | 06:17 |
| mwhudson | hello al-maisan | 06:23 |
| al-maisan | hello mwhudson :) | 06:24 |
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| adeuring | good morning | 08:27 |
| thumper | morning | 08:51 |
| thumper | mwhudson: back soon :) | 08:51 |
| wgrant | How is the team lead thingy going? | 08:52 |
| thumper | wgrant: interestingly | 09:04 |
| thumper | wgrant: there'll be some email sent to the dev list at the end of today I expect | 09:05 |
| mrevell | Morning | 09:05 |
| thumper | mrevell: morning | 09:06 |
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| henninge | Hi, I found out that I can do this to use a TAL formatter in view code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283641/ | 09:54 |
| henninge | Is that a "legal" use of the API or should I access the formatter in some other way? | 09:55 |
| henninge | jtv: ^? | 09:55 |
| jtv | henninge: all I can say is it's clever and simple. :) | 09:56 |
| henninge | jtv: thanks ;) So you'd let that through on a review? I guess that is what I am asking ... | 09:56 |
| jtv | henninge: curtis is the real person to ask imho | 09:57 |
| jtv | but I would allow that, yes. | 09:57 |
| henninge | jtv: oh, and he's in our time zone atm ... ;) | 09:57 |
| jtv | or close to it | 09:57 |
| henninge | sinzui: Hi! Is it OK to do this in a view? http://paste.ubuntu.com/283641/ | 09:58 |
| bigjools | wgrant: hey there - did you ever get anywhere with the download counters for PPAs? | 10:29 |
| wgrant | bigjools: The refactoring of the existing log parser is done, so the PPA backend is very very easy. | 10:30 |
| wgrant | But it needed discussion, so I decided to wait until post-3.0. | 10:30 |
| wgrant | (the refactoring is done and merged, that is) | 10:30 |
| bigjools | awesome | 10:30 |
| bigjools | we'd like it to work with the partner archive too :) | 10:31 |
| wgrant | So I saw. | 10:32 |
| al-maisan | hello code hosting guys :) | 10:37 |
| al-maisan | diffs in merge proposals seem to be off quite a bit | 10:37 |
| al-maisan | see e.g. https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~al-maisan/launchpad/cmsg-425800/+merge/12774 | 10:37 |
| al-maisan | and http://pastebin.com/m4c94727b | 10:37 |
| sinzui | henninge: sorry I am sprinting. I think your pastebin, if fine. I have used tales in code several times. | 10:37 |
| henninge | sinzui: I am aware of you sprinting ... ;) Thanks for taking the time to look at my pastebin. | 10:38 |
| noodles775 | al-maisan, you're aware that you've targeted db-devel there? | 10:38 |
| al-maisan | noodles775: oops, my fault then. | 10:39 |
| al-maisan | I apologise to the code hosting guys ;P | 10:40 |
| noodles775 | al-maisan, I've done that too... start a branch when devel is closed and forget later :) | 10:40 |
| * al-maisan needs some coffee | 10:40 | |
| al-maisan | bbiab | 10:40 |
| wgrant | bigjools: My quick PPA BPR counter implementation from several weeks ago is only about 300 lines of diff. | 10:55 |
| noodles775 | wgrant or bigjools: could one of you take a look at my comments at the bottom of https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/84457 ? | 10:58 |
| noodles775 | I'm confused why the Packages file would be empty rather than simply containing the previous versions? | 10:58 |
| wgrant | Lessee. | 11:00 |
| wgrant | Hmm. | 11:02 |
| wgrant | That is a good question. | 11:02 |
| wgrant | Hm. | 11:03 |
| wgrant | Looks like it never built on Hardy. | 11:03 |
| wgrant | I can't find a successful Hardy build (they're all superseded), while the rest are fine. | 11:04 |
| wgrant | I presume it keeps depwaiting. | 11:04 |
| wgrant | We'll see in a minute or two. | 11:04 |
| noodles775 | wgrant, https://launchpad.net/~inkscape-nightly/+archive/ppa/+build/841006 | 11:05 |
| noodles775 | (and thanks for taking a look) | 11:05 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Ah. | 11:07 |
| wgrant | So it did succeed months ago. | 11:07 |
| wgrant | But. | 11:07 |
| wgrant | It was deleted. | 11:07 |
| wgrant | 0.46+devel~nightly8.04-7213-1 was the last success. | 11:07 |
| wgrant | The subsequent upload failed. | 11:07 |
| wgrant | Both were deleted. | 11:07 |
| wgrant | So the binaries vanished. | 11:07 |
| wgrant | No later upload succeeded, so there are still no binaries. | 11:08 |
| noodles775 | Ah - great.... thanks wgrant . | 11:08 |
| wgrant | The DASBP views make that pretty easy to see, but it's rather more convoluted for a PPA. | 11:10 |
| noodles775 | Yeah. | 11:10 |
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| barry | noodles775: hi! would you be able to do a quick ui review of some screen shots? | 14:11 |
| noodles775 | barry, sure - if it gives me a break from CHR project reviewing :) | 14:13 |
| barry | noodles775: :) | 14:13 |
| barry | noodles775: can you take a look at the last two screen shots in bug 440220 | 14:13 |
| mup | Bug #440220: registering slot interferes with watermark <post-ui-3-cleanup> <Launchpad Registry:In Progress by barry> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/440220> | 14:13 |
| noodles775 | looking | 14:14 |
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| EdwinGrubbs | lifeless: ping | 15:16 |
| EdwinGrubbs | beuno: ping | 15:17 |
| beuno | EdwinGrubbs, hi | 15:18 |
| beuno | jml, http://paste.ubuntu.com/283879/ | 15:18 |
| EdwinGrubbs | beuno: can you give me your feedback on the mockups in bug 399554 | 15:25 |
| mup | Bug #399554: timeline series data is very hard to access <post-3-ui-cleanup> <ui> <Launchpad Registry:In Progress by edwin-grubbs> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/399554> | 15:25 |
| beuno | let me try | 15:27 |
| beuno | EdwinGrubbs, it's nice | 15:29 |
| beuno | it's a good idea | 15:29 |
| beuno | although removing the dates is... well, I don't know | 15:29 |
| jml | beuno, thanks. as discussed, mainline commits are more interesting. | 15:33 |
| beuno | "patches welcome", I hear | 15:34 |
| EdwinGrubbs | beuno: statik had the idea of just hiding the dates when the graph is in a portlet. I could also do something where depending on your zoom level it would hide/show the dates, or I could add a checkbox next to the zoom buttons. | 15:36 |
| beuno | EdwinGrubbs, ah, could be a good idea | 15:37 |
| beuno | EdwinGrubbs, lets have a call next week about it | 15:37 |
| beuno | would that work for you? | 15:37 |
| EdwinGrubbs | beuno: sure. I'll set that up after I get some feedback from lifeless. | 15:41 |
| beuno | EdwinGrubbs, great, thanks | 15:41 |
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| thumper | can anyone swap CHR with me for the 7th? | 15:54 |
| mrevell | thumper: I'm down for the 14th. Do you wanna take that and I'll take your 7th? | 16:03 |
| thumper | mrevell: sounds great, thanks | 16:03 |
| mrevell | thumper: I'll update the calendar | 16:03 |
| thumper | mrevell: ta | 16:04 |
| mrevell | Hmm, I'm getting a traceback on ec2 test today but it was fine yesterday. Anyone else seen that? | 17:13 |
| gmb | Argh. Why am I getting "AttributeError: 'thread._local' object has no attribute 'interaction'"? | 17:26 |
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| lifeless | EdwinGrubbs: yo? | 23:00 |
| EdwinGrubbs | lifeless: hi, did you see the mockups in the bug you opened | 23:01 |
| lifeless | EdwinGrubbs: hi, yes been thinking | 23:02 |
| lifeless | EdwinGrubbs: I think they are better | 23:02 |
| EdwinGrubbs | lifeless: The main differences between the mockups and the old textual display of series/milestones/releases are that the graph doesn't wrap milestones/releases in large series and that it limits both the height and width of the displayed data. | 23:10 |
| EdwinGrubbs | lifeless: it might improve the usability of the graph it was possible to optionally hide/display milestones and releases based on what you interested in. | 23:11 |
| kiko | ahoy there | 23:17 |
| kiko | it's KARMIC UPGRADE day | 23:17 |
| kiko | wooo | 23:17 |
| * wgrant quickly uploads some change to break kiko's machine. | 23:18 | |
| kiko | somebody already did that | 23:18 |
| wgrant | :( | 23:18 |
| kiko | maybe you could upload a fix though! | 23:18 |
| kiko | what's with the splash screen coming after all the boot messages | 23:19 |
| wgrant | It's probably because it has to wait for KMS to initialise. Keybuk was working on that sort of thing, and it's a lot better than it was a month ago. | 23:19 |
| wgrant | I presume it will get quieter before release. | 23:20 |
| james_w | you get all boot messages? | 23:20 |
| james_w | or just some apparmor/modprobe/fsck stuff | 23:20 |
| james_w | and then a few "starting" messages? | 23:20 |
| Fly-Man- | Hooray, Karmic is here | 23:20 |
| wgrant | Maybe I misunderstood the full magnitude of the issue. I just get a few lines at the start. | 23:21 |
| kiko | james_w: I only get like 10 lines after some 2 screen flashes, but it kinda upsets the smooth experience | 23:25 |
| kiko | james_w: starting with fsck and then some other stuff | 23:25 |
| james_w | yeah | 23:25 |
| kiko | the boot is so fast | 23:25 |
| james_w | I think true smoothness will be next release | 23:25 |
| kiko | that having the flash and switch just steals victory | 23:25 |
| james_w | I think there's work to do to quieten things down without giving no information when the boot fails | 23:26 |
| kiko | sure, but the boot doesn't fail for me! | 23:30 |
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