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| eagles0513875 | morning guys | 06:13 |
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| sevoir | morning | 07:18 |
| asac | micahg1: hi | 10:34 |
| asac | hmm. hope you are asleep ;) | 10:34 |
| * micahg1 hopes too :) | 10:34 | |
| fta | hi | 10:34 |
| fta | asac, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=21603 | 10:34 |
| === micahg1 is now known as micahg | ||
| fta | i have no clue what's best there | 10:35 |
| micahg | asac: Karmic looks nice...I get a notice to restart in teh browser :) | 10:35 |
| asac | hehe | 10:35 |
| asac | fta: let me look | 10:36 |
| asac | micahg: no ubufox though :( | 10:36 |
| asac | on CD | 10:36 |
| asac | mysterious | 10:36 |
| asac | worst case .... to debug something like that on cd for me ;) | 10:36 |
| micahg | asac: yeah, I know..but it works on the desktop | 10:36 |
| asac | fta: alternatives suck | 10:37 |
| fta | i know | 10:37 |
| asac | fta: best rule i can come up with is: default browser gets 100 ... all secondary browsers the same | 10:38 |
| asac | obsoleted ones get even less | 10:38 |
| asac | dont take seamonkey as a good example. maybe check what epiphany-browser has | 10:38 |
| asac | and use that | 10:38 |
| asac | fta: posted that to the bug | 10:40 |
| fta | k | 10:45 |
| asac | fta: yoú shouldnt ask me something like that this early ;) | 10:47 |
| asac | i will update the bug again | 10:47 |
| asac | the rule is the other way | 10:47 |
| asac | default browser get lower prio | 10:47 |
| asac | obviously | 10:47 |
| sevoir | hi asac :) I created a new branch . the xpi was unpacked with med-xpi-unpack. the branch same as xul-ext-ubuntu-hu-menu but this is toolbar version.. | 10:50 |
| asac | sevoir: hi. what does "toolbar version" mean? | 10:50 |
| sevoir | the xul-ext-ubuntu-hu-menu is in firefox menu, xul-ext-ubuntu-hu-toolbar is a toolbar with search option | 10:52 |
| micahg | asac: if you get a chance, can you look at bug 440478, I'm not sure what the next step is | 10:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 440478 in firefox-3.5 "karmic beta1: Sun Java plugin does not load" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/440478 | 10:58 |
| asac | micahg: you shouldnt be working that long ;) | 11:08 |
| asac | what time is it? | 11:08 |
| fta | beta's out, too bad chromium is not in it :P | 11:08 |
| asac | fta: we knew that ;) | 11:09 |
| fta | sure, but i'm just sad | 11:09 |
| asac | hey | 11:11 |
| asac | thats nothing to be sad about | 11:11 |
| asac | rmember that chromium doesnt do any releases yet | 11:11 |
| asac | i know they are now working on tags | 11:11 |
| asac | also the longer its in the ppa the more people use it ;) | 11:11 |
| asac | meaning you pile up a huge amount of testers you can later use for pre-release testing | 11:12 |
| asac | fta: what is really left here is a goo dlicense documenation | 11:12 |
| asac | which of course is lots of work | 11:13 |
| asac | but my vision is to do the following presentation: | 11:13 |
| asac | a) a dependency graph with licenses attached | 11:13 |
| asac | a) a tuple lilst with whitelisted license combinations | 11:13 |
| asac | if we have that on top of the current licensecheck thing | 11:14 |
| asac | we just need to fill the gaps | 11:14 |
| asac | and it will go in in a hurry | 11:14 |
| fta | it looks doable | 11:19 |
| sevoir | :o | 11:33 |
| sevoir | asac: if you have a little time, please review these branch too : https://code.launchpad.net/~sevoir/firefox-extensions/ubuntu-hu-toolbar.ubuntu. this package will closing bug 422208 | 11:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 422208 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] firefox-ubuntu-hu-toolbar" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422208 | 11:50 |
| sindhudweep | asac: you there? | 12:03 |
| asac | sindhudweep: yes | 12:16 |
| asac | please summon the other asac ;) | 12:16 |
| asac | this gateway as bad lag ;) | 12:16 |
| asac | and i am not seeing the ping then | 12:17 |
| sindhudweep | asac / asac__ : do you have more comments for the second merge proposal? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnash/gnash/ubuntu.head/+merge/12694. If not merge at your convenience :D | 12:33 |
| asac | sindhudweep: checking | 12:36 |
| asac | sindhudweep: looks good. i will upload that | 12:37 |
| asac | (getting ffe first) | 12:37 |
| asac | Sindhudweep Narayan Sarkar (karmic signing key) | 12:37 |
| asac | a bit odd with the comment ;) | 12:37 |
| asac | do you have a jaunty signing key too ;)? | 12:37 |
| sindhudweep | nope | 12:37 |
| sindhudweep | couldn't figure out for a while why gpg couldn't find my key till i remembered that the comment mattered :/ | 12:38 |
| asac__ | sindhudweep: is your key signed by someone? otherwise you can easily create a new one | 12:39 |
| asac__ | you can add new UID too | 12:39 |
| sindhudweep | not signed by anyone else, self signed. do you want me to resubmit? | 12:40 |
| asac__ | your decision. i wouldnt want that in my changelogs ;) | 12:40 |
| asac__ | but for submission it doesnt matter anyway. i have to sign it in any case | 12:40 |
| sindhudweep | Good point. I have to run to work but I'll re submit ~ 10 hours | 12:40 |
| asac__ | sindhudweep: i can just fix the name | 12:41 |
| asac__ | remove the () | 12:41 |
| asac__ | on merge | 12:41 |
| av` | asac__, if I close a firefox istance with more than 20+ windows open, it stays a bit to close it telling me to force close it then I wait, and it closes, but the istance keeps to stay open | 12:41 |
| av` | so I have to manually close it | 12:41 |
| asac | extensions can cause that | 12:41 |
| asac | or plugins | 12:41 |
| sindhudweep | If i change the name won't dput/launchpad complain? or does it only use the ssh key? | 12:41 |
| asac | that dont release all thread resources | 12:41 |
| sindhudweep | dput should read as bazaar | 12:42 |
| av` | asac, I don't have any plugin / ext installed | 12:42 |
| av` | I removed everything | 12:42 |
| asac | sindhudweep: it uses the email to refer to your account. | 12:42 |
| av` | mm...I just have one ext | 12:42 |
| asac | sindhudweep: the full thing is just used for signing | 12:42 |
| av` | from what I see | 12:42 |
| asac | you need to add a new UID to your gpg key | 12:42 |
| asac | and then you are done | 12:42 |
| asac | av`: maybe wait longer | 12:42 |
| av` | ok | 12:43 |
| asac | it has to sync the whole UI state to sessionstore | 12:43 |
| sindhudweep | okay. and will I need to upload my key again following my change to the uid list? | 12:44 |
| asac | yeah | 12:45 |
| asac | sindhudweep: to launchpad ... and also to some public keyring | 12:45 |
| asac | like gpg --send-keys KEYID | 12:45 |
| eagles0513875 | asac: i need to tlak to u when i return bro | 12:45 |
| sevoir | asac: if you have a little time, please review these branch too : https://code.launchpad.net/~sevoir/firefox-extensions/ubuntu-hu-toolbar.ubuntu. this package will closing bug 422208 :) | 12:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 422208 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] firefox-ubuntu-hu-toolbar" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422208 | 12:46 |
| sindhudweep | asac: i pushed that (modified) key to ubuntu's key server but launchpad already thinks it has that key (since they have the same fingerprint). | 12:48 |
| sindhudweep | asac__: revision 178 in https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnash/gnash/ubuntu.head has the fixed name. | 12:52 |
| asac__ | sindhudweep: hmm. odd. well. maybe launchpad pulls the details from the keyring server. | 12:54 |
| asac__ | usually UID should be a change | 12:54 |
| sindhudweep | ahh launchpad doesnt care since it just references keyserver.ubuntu.com which has both http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD3EA2AE7629B49D84FFE8CD345E1B9786B9735B3&op=index | 12:55 |
| sindhudweep | anyways I'm off. Enjoy the rest of your day folks. | 12:56 |
| asac | thx | 12:58 |
| asac | sindhudweep: oh. i have one question if you are still there | 12:59 |
| asac | can i remove the klash parts for this cycle? | 12:59 |
| asac | in the past kde was always unreliable to have or not have | 12:59 |
| asac | and this would also mean its a new package | 12:59 |
| sindhudweep | yes please do so | 13:01 |
| sindhudweep | i have a very out of date branch that fixes that. | 13:01 |
| sindhudweep | but till then it's just worthless clutter. | 13:01 |
| bdrung_ | asac: thanks for syncing | 13:04 |
| asac | bdrung_: thx to you!! | 13:10 |
| asac | now we can swiftly do the extension fixes between now and RC freeze | 13:10 |
| asac | sindhudweep: hmm. i thought you added klash ... nevermind | 13:11 |
| asac | i was confused | 13:11 |
| asac | your merge does not change our package | 13:11 |
| bdrung_ | asac: yes, we should add a column to the extension list called "maintained in" | 13:11 |
| bdrung_ | s/,/./ | 13:11 |
| asac | bdrung_: i think its not black and white. i think default is always "debian" | 13:12 |
| asac | minus differences for freezes on both sides | 13:12 |
| asac | at least that should be the goal | 13:12 |
| asac | we could document however whats the current place i agree | 13:12 |
| asac | so we know what to get to debian next cycle | 13:12 |
| bdrung_ | asac: k (with m-d there should be only transitional packages as diffs) | 13:13 |
| asac | (before debian freeze in december afaik) | 13:13 |
| asac__ | yeah. i think we shouldnt do the renaming in ubuntu this cycle | 13:13 |
| bdrung_ | asac: we should rename all packages in debian before release | 13:13 |
| asac__ | NEW packages alway cause pain on archive folks | 13:13 |
| asac__ | who are busy enough this time imo | 13:13 |
| asac__ | bdrung_: before debian release yes. | 13:13 |
| bdrung_ | asac: the rename for ubuntu is target at lucid | 13:14 |
| asac__ | ok so lets say: after we go to RC freeze we have all done in ubuntu | 13:14 |
| asac__ | then we start to get stuff that isnt in debian to debian | 13:14 |
| asac__ | and do the renaming there | 13:14 |
| bdrung_ | yes | 13:14 |
| asac__ | at the same time we need to file bugs in ubuntu to remove the old sources | 13:14 |
| asac__ | when karmic is relesaed | 13:14 |
| asac__ | maybe opening bugs and use Ubuntu:later milestone | 13:14 |
| bdrung_ | asac: how is the progress of parsing the repository for m-d? | 13:16 |
| asac | i will make a date with mvo now ;) | 13:17 |
| bdrung_ | asac: i like to see it soon, so that we can test it in debian before we will sync it to lucid | 13:17 |
| asac__ | ack | 13:17 |
| asac__ | i try to schedule a call on monday now | 13:18 |
| bdrung_ | k | 13:18 |
| asac | fta: dont you have ath9k? on your netbook? | 13:44 |
| fta | asac, hmm, probably, why? | 13:46 |
| ripps | dammit, someone released an autoscroll patch for chromium several days ago, but I've heard no word about anybody merging it in | 13:47 |
| fta | ? | 13:48 |
| asac__ | fta: i get reports that ath9k is in sad state | 13:48 |
| asac__ | fta: previously we had problems while background scanning | 13:48 |
| asac__ | fta: did you ever see that? | 13:49 |
| asac__ | like every 2 minutes network issues? | 13:49 |
| asac__ | fta: anyway. now it seems upstream landed support for all new ath9k chipsets and we have regression for older aht9k ones | 13:49 |
| asac__ | even _without_ background scanning | 13:49 |
| asac__ | up to the point that they cannot even establish connection after 2h | 13:49 |
| asac__ | (even without NM) | 13:49 |
| fta | i barely used my netbook recently, last time was 3 weeks ago but it didn't use the network, it was in a train | 13:51 |
| asac | hmm ok | 13:51 |
| fta | if you want me to try something, i can, i'm at home today | 13:51 |
| asac | fta: fire up that netbook ... upgrade to latest | 13:52 |
| asac | put it on wireless and download something that will take a while | 13:52 |
| fta | /w or /wo the nm ppa? | 13:52 |
| asac | use nm ppa because beta is a bit broken | 13:52 |
| asac | but it should work to get a wifi connection if you dont use the editor | 13:53 |
| asac | so it shouldnt matter much | 13:53 |
| asac__ | bug 439723 and bug 414560 | 13:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 439723 in linux "ath9k - nm-applet don't connect to any network after 2 hours (+-)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439723 | 13:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 414560 in linux "ath9k disassociates/reassociates a lot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414560 | 13:53 |
| fta | asac, weren't you supposed to update the x-www-browser bug? | 14:02 |
| fta | *sigh* can't connect to archive.u.c | 14:06 |
| fta | beta effect? | 14:06 |
| sevoir | asac / asac__ : can I propose for merging my other branch to you and bdrung_ ? | 14:13 |
| asac | sevoir: yes, just propose a merge and mark the other as superseded | 14:15 |
| asac | fta: yeah | 14:15 |
| asac | beta | 14:15 |
| asac | need to go somewhere else ;) | 14:16 |
| fta | 607 upgraded, 81 newly installed, 10 to remove and 1 not upgraded. | 14:24 |
| fta | Need to get 510MB of archives. | 14:24 |
| sevoir | asac: missing target branch ... what can I write for target branch ? | 14:27 |
| asac | sevoir: i created a target branch yesterday and requested a merge for your thing ... didnt i? | 14:33 |
| asac | just use the same used in the other merge request | 14:34 |
| asac | fta: yeah. so maybe you will even see the problem while downloading that stuff ... i assume you are already on .31? | 14:34 |
| asac | fta: btw. fixed my comment in the alternative bug | 14:34 |
| fta | yeah, 31-5 | 14:35 |
| fta | but i'm wired | 14:35 |
| asac | hmm. try wireless ;) | 14:35 |
| asac | on your netbook | 14:35 |
| asac | that should show if you have the bug already ... which i think is likely | 14:35 |
| sevoir | asac: thx, I proposed | 14:38 |
| asac | sevoir: not sure i got the mail (might be i forgot to subscribe to the branch) ... please request review from me explicitly | 14:38 |
| sevoir | asac: the reviewers: you and bdrung_ | 14:41 |
| asac | tx | 14:42 |
| asac | kenvandine: so can we get the name_owner_change for gwibber and exception handling up today? or rather next week? | 15:01 |
| asac | i think would be beneficial to get that in asap so we see what is left from the unstability | 15:02 |
| eagles0513875 | asac: O_o remember how the otherday bindwood wasnt working for me | 15:02 |
| asac | i am not sure i want to remember that | 15:03 |
| asac | its probobably your own confusion ;) | 15:03 |
| kenvandine | asac: i plan to work on that this weekend... been too wrapped up in empathy this week :/ | 15:03 |
| asac | kk | 15:03 |
| asac | kenvandine: the name_owner_dbus patch should be trivial, no? | 15:03 |
| asac | or would that hide too many exception cases? | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | i would think... but it didn't work quite the same way in gwibber | 15:04 |
| asac | i mean ... so far we get bugs probably whenever daeomon goes down or dies (no reply) | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | yeah... the name_owner_change should be easy | 15:04 |
| asac | which might not be that bad ... though we probably understand that we need error handling for all remote calls | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | but it isn't working in gwibber | 15:04 |
| asac | kenvandine: thought the fix was easy (just main loop) | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | yeah... didn't work in gwibber | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | not sure why | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | it's weird | 15:05 |
| asac | ok sounds odd | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | yeah... i need to spend some more time on it | 15:05 |
| asac | kenvandine: i think exception handling has priority for now. there probably can also be regular timeouts | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | but i promised rick good progress with AV in empathy this week :) | 15:05 |
| asac | e.g. when daemon gets timeout from service ietc | 15:05 |
| asac | sure | 15:05 |
| asac | AV? | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | audio/video | 15:06 |
| asac | ok. thats jabber video right? | 15:06 |
| asac | and auto? | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 15:06 |
| asac | audio ;)...damn | 15:06 |
| asac | is that google voice? libjingle is that ... isnt it? | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | working ok now... but we need to add some stuff to guide the user when there is a problem | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | farsight | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | not google voice | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | just video over jabber | 15:07 |
| asac | hmm. not libjingle? | 15:07 |
| asac | ok | 15:07 |
| asac | there is no libjingle in archive ;) | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | problem is if you don't have upnp on enabled on your router... it silently blows up | 15:07 |
| asac | http://code.google.com/apis/talk/libjingle/index.html | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | we need a way to raise something to the user to say "go turn this on" | 15:07 |
| asac | hmm | 15:08 |
| asac | blows up == crashing? | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | sometimes... usually just a black screen | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | fails to display the video | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | not a great user experience | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | farsight uses jingle | 15:08 |
| asac | ah ok | 15:08 |
| asac | not sure whats the different to google talk is then ... | 15:09 |
| asac | probably just that it can work everywhere | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | if both ends have upnp enabled it is actually pretty damn good | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | google talk is jabber | 15:09 |
| asac | i assume jabber provider needs a special service? | 15:09 |
| eagles0513875 | asac: bindwood wasnt working for me the other day then updated some things on karmic earlier this week then when i tried it yesterday it worked | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | it works over google talk | 15:09 |
| asac | kenvandine: i know ;) | 15:09 |
| eagles0513875 | this was prior to adding some other things that are mentioned in the wiki | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | nope... works with any jabber | 15:09 |
| asac | kenvandine: i think i mixd up voice and talk ;) | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | ah | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | different services :) | 15:09 |
| asac | actually thought it was the same ;) | 15:09 |
| asac | then i dont know voice :) | 15:10 |
| kenvandine | google voice just connects two real phone lines | 15:10 |
| kenvandine | and google brokers it | 15:10 |
| asac | eagles0513875: we updated the upstream release ... | 15:10 |
| kenvandine | i wish it was SIP | 15:10 |
| asac | ah ok. thanks for the info | 15:10 |
| eagles0513875 | that explains why its working now lol | 15:10 |
| asac | i dont know. i have bad experience with sip | 15:10 |
| kenvandine | asac: SIP is great when it works :) | 15:11 |
| asac | maybe just because ekiga was crap when i tried it | 15:11 |
| asac | yes ... "when" | 15:11 |
| asac | ;) | 15:11 |
| kenvandine | like the canonical sip service rocks...just nobody uses it | 15:11 |
| asac | our canonical server had lots of stuttering | 15:11 |
| asac | same for ekiga.net | 15:11 |
| asac | hmm | 15:11 |
| kenvandine | ekiga.net is very crappy | 15:11 |
| asac | didnt rock for me ;) | 15:11 |
| asac | which is why i think it was ekiga being broken | 15:11 |
| kenvandine | could have been | 15:11 |
| kenvandine | pitti has great things to say about diamondcard.net | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | i think that is right | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | anyway.. empathy is close to rockin' for voice/video | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | that has been the priority this week :/ gwibber is next though | 15:12 |
| asac__ | nice ;) | 15:13 |
| asac | "We Process the Nation's Credit Card Transactions" | 15:13 |
| asac__ | two things important to see for me | 15:13 |
| asac__ | a) non-tree layout broken | 15:13 |
| asac__ | b) exception handling | 15:13 |
| asac__ | c) name_owner_change | 15:13 |
| asac__ | in that priority (but all pretty close ;)) | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | asac__, the non-tree layout is fixed in trunk... i guess we haven't uploaded since thin | 15:14 |
| asac__ | and then general stability | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | then | 15:14 |
| asac__ | but i think b and c should give a much more stable user experience | 15:14 |
| asac__ | already | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | i think when b and c are done, it will be more stable | 15:14 |
| asac__ | evn if daemon is dead broken still ;) | 15:14 |
| eagles0513875 | asac__: will finish up bind wood this weekend | 15:14 |
| asac__ | eagles0513875: its just a few packaging changes ;) ... what are you doing all the time | 15:15 |
| eagles0513875 | asac__: just started lectures | 15:15 |
| eagles0513875 | doing my java hw if i get fedup of tyring it i might stop and finish up bindwood | 15:15 |
| asac__ | anyway have to do a break before meeting in 40 min | 15:16 |
| eagles0513875 | hehe :) | 15:17 |
| eagles0513875 | im enjoy ing helping out in the little capacity i have learned so far | 15:17 |
| sevoir | bye all | 15:41 |
| fta | asac, Fetched 332MB in 1h 2min 24s (88.7kB/s), nothing particular wrt n-m. it's just slow because of the beta rush | 15:47 |
| eagles0513875 | holy crumpets | 15:48 |
| eagles0513875 | tell me bout it fta even my local mirrors are bogged down | 15:48 |
| asac | fta: hmm all wireless? | 15:48 |
| fta | yes | 15:49 |
| eagles0513875 | hehe nice | 15:51 |
| asac | kenvandine: 436591 is fixed in your empathy work too? | 15:52 |
| eagles0513875 | asac: are uploads to bzr for firefox extensions getting hammered 2 in regard to new branches | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | it is something i am going to look at, yes | 15:53 |
| fta | damn, pbuilder overrides my CFLAGS | 16:37 |
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| BUGabundo | hey | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | just touching and leaving. busy night :) | 22:04 |
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| fta | [reed], any news about the cpu hog issue in trunk? | 23:09 |
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