[03:05] <MTecknology> newz2000: hi
[17:19] <thorwil> newz2000: so i'm back online sooner than expected :)
[17:19] <newz2000> hey thorwil
[17:21] <thorwil> newz2000: the images from my mail are in place?
[17:22] <newz2000> thorwil: are they different than the ones in your bzr branch?
[17:22] <newz2000> I can't remember what I did now
[17:22] <thorwil> newz2000: they are until the revision 20 that i just pushed
[17:23] <newz2000> how can I tell if I put the right ones in or not?
[17:23] <thorwil> in other words, the tarball attached and the rev 20 are identical
[17:23] <thorwil> newz2000: look at the images for 23 and 22 days to go
[17:24] <newz2000> http://www.ubuntu.com/files/countdown/910/countdown-9.10-1/23.png
[17:24] <thorwil> newz2000: if you see the number placement change, it's the old set
[17:24] <newz2000> oh, ok, I have the old ones
[17:24] <newz2000> I'll get the ones in from your download
[17:25] <thorwil> good
[17:25] <thorwil> what happened to the slideshow?
[17:25] <newz2000> I'm not sure, activity kind of tapered off after the first round
[17:25] <thorwil> rime, knome: i lost internet connection for a while ...
[17:26] <thorwil> newz2000: i thought it was ready to be used!?
[17:27] <newz2000> there were some improvements yesterday, I think the last thing that needs done is to start the text out visible and then fade out. The speed looks good though.
[17:27] <newz2000> I've been a little caught up in beta and other projects though so somene needs to tell me it's done and ready
[17:27] <thorwil> ah, ok
[17:28] <jpds> newz2000: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/beta#Upstart - that cdimage link is gone.
[17:28] <Ng> jpds: ta :)
[17:29] <jpds> Ng: That page right there, not your racks.
[17:29] <Ng> jpds: definitely not my racks
[17:29] <jpds> Hehe.
[17:29] <newz2000> Ng: do we need to change the link or put the image back in place?
[17:29] <Ng> newz2000: not my call :)
[17:30] <Ng> I'd be surprised if the alphas are coming back though ;)
[17:30] <newz2000> ok, let me find Steve Langasek
[17:36] <newz2000> ok, all done, thanks jpds
[20:25] <Turl> canonical's repo servers are extremely slow today :(
[20:25] <Turl> no more than 15kB/s
[20:39] <jpds> Turl: Yes.
[20:39] <jpds> Turl: Tell that to every single person hammering the servers getting the beta when they should be using torrents/local mirrors.
[20:44] <Turl> any main server not being hammered?
[20:45] <jpds> Turl: Pick a mirror from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[20:48] <Turl> my country mirror is one week behind, not much help
[20:49] <jpds> Turl: You could always use one like br.archive.ubuntu.com, rather than the one in London ?
[20:50] <Turl> true
[20:50] <Turl> I guess it'll have better speed
[20:50] <Turl> I'm using ar.archive.ubuntu.com - the speed is sloooooow
[20:50] <jpds> That's because ar.archive is pointing at London.
[20:51] <Turl> oh
[20:51] <Turl> why is there an ar.archive then?
[20:51] <Turl> it's confusing for ppl
[20:51] <jpds> Because noone's applied to be an official country mirror for Argentina?
[20:52] <Turl> yeah, but why not just remove ar. and create it when there's an official mirror?
[20:53] <jpds> Because that would break people's current setups?
[20:54] <Turl> yeah, but I mean, why was it created initially? I don't see why that exists
[20:56] <knome> thorwil, newz2000: i think rime has been busy.
[20:56] <knome> thorwil, newz2000: what was left to tweak?
[20:57] <newz2000> knome: the last thing I know that was mentioned was starting the text out as shown
[20:57] <newz2000> instead of fading it in at the beginning
[20:57] <newz2000> but I've been a bit caught up in other things so I wasn't able to follow the conversations too closely
[20:58] <thorwil> knome: i missed  a bit more than 1 day
[20:58] <knome> okay, let me find the link
[20:58] <knome> http://markus.alshain.fi/markus/deve/slider/slider04.html
[20:58] <knome> that's the current
[20:59] <knome> i don't think all the frames are correctly aligned
[20:59] <knome> but how does that look otherwise?
[21:00] <Turl> knome: isn't it too quick? :/
[21:00] <knome> newz2000 thought it was too slow before.
[21:00]  * newz2000 checks
[21:00] <newz2000> no, it's not too quick. Looks good.
[21:00] <thorwil> yes, out of center
[21:01] <knome> i suppose that's relatively easy to fix.
[21:01] <knome> is there anything else to fix?
[21:01] <knome> other than that and it being clickable, naturally
[21:01] <Turl> it looks like you are running on a fast car
[21:01] <Turl> :P
[21:04] <thorwil> knome: no fade in for first text, centering, clickable. should be fine then
[21:04] <knome> Turl, hmm. does driving a car fast bring you negative feelings? ;)
[21:04] <knome> no fade at all?
[21:05] <Turl> knome: nope, but impedes me from reading :P I might be thinking it's too fast because mine moves almost continously but slower
[21:05] <Turl> http://labs.turl.com.ar/animcount/slide.html
[21:05] <knome> yeah.
[21:05] <newz2000> ah, that's nice too. Too slow but the effect looks good.
[21:06] <thorwil> knome: hmm ... seems there are 2 fade-ins, for pulse and text on first frame. ideally it would be one quick fade-in for both. but having no fade-in for the text cam from newz2000
[21:07] <thorwil> Turl: very nice. i especially like the start
[21:07] <knome> thorwil, there is no fadein for the pulse
[21:08] <thorwil> knome: then my tired brain mis-interpreted the jump from flat fill to graphic as very fast fade :)
[21:08] <Turl> thorwil: thanks :)
[21:09] <newz2000> I'm going to leave the animation in your hands guys. Make it look good and snappy. I'll publish it on Monday.
[21:09] <thorwil> Turl: the opening-up step before the countdown should run through and not have a stop/slow-down
[21:10] <Turl> thorwil: yep :)
[21:10] <thorwil> Turl: on the first run, i saw a grey area instead of the countdown image for a short bit
[21:11] <thorwil> guess that means images aren't but should be preloaded
[21:12] <Turl> yep
[21:13] <knome> http://emonk.fi/open/ubuntu/Karmic%20Countdown%20Banner/slider04.html
[21:13] <Turl> I did it quickly the other day but never finished it :P
[21:13] <knome> does that look better?
[21:13] <Turl> knome: what did you change? I think it's the same as before
[21:13] <knome> oops, broke it
[21:14] <knome> Turl, text doesn't fade in the first time and the frames are aligned
[21:14] <knome> now it's also clickable
[21:14] <knome> for now it reloads the current page
[21:15] <Turl> it creates a horrible blue like :/
[21:15] <Turl> and red
[21:15] <Turl> when you click on it
[21:16] <knome> just a minute
[21:16] <knome> i see if i can affect that
[21:17] <knome> ok, no more blue+red
[21:18] <knome> thorwil, ?
[21:19] <Turl> works fine now knome :)
[21:19] <knome> yay
[21:20] <thorwil> either i have a bad screenshot-timing, or at least some of the graphics are still off-center
[21:20] <knome> thorwil, can you give me some exact data if you did screenshooting, i can fix it then
[21:21] <knome> hmm
[21:22] <thorwil> knome: looks like the laptop is 5 px to far to the left
[21:23] <knome> for some reason, the text on laptop fades out almostimmediately
[21:24] <knome> right, i fixed it
[21:24] <knome> thorwil, any other misaligned?
[21:24] <knome> (hoe's the lappy now)
[21:24] <knome> *how
[21:25] <thorwil> cloud is shifted to the right
[21:25] <knome> how much?
[21:27] <knome> brb
[21:27] <thorwil> knome: 3 pixels
[21:28] <thorwil> knome: something wrong with the border. i only see a black border on top, not any other side
[21:31] <knome> hmm
[21:31] <knome> weird
[21:32] <knome> oh, not really.
[21:32] <thorwil> too tired, good night! :}
[21:32] <knome> it's now red for debugging
[21:32] <knome> okay, night thorwil
[21:33] <Turl> knome: #ubuntu910-rotator { border: 0; }
[21:33] <Turl> that should remove it
[21:33] <knome> no, we should *have* a black border...
[21:34] <Turl> why?
[21:35] <knome> thorwil says so
[21:35] <Turl> knome: you might remove it from the ul and add it to #ubuntu910-wrap
[21:35] <Turl> :)
[21:36] <knome> no, then it's 182x152, which is too much, i hear
[21:37] <knome> ah, fixed anyway
[21:37] <knome> kind of followed your idea, but made the wrap itself 2px smaller;)
[21:38] <Turl> I was going to recommend you that heh :P