[00:00] <DasEi> dethaddr: then you are already in that subfolder ?
[00:00] <dethaddr> not any more
[00:00] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: ok  you might find that channel also useful.   Also  when asking for help it's good to provide a lot of details for your issue.
[00:00] <sebsebseb> !details |  sadrolla
[00:00] <dethaddr> DasEi: not any more whats the cmd?
[00:01] <yankees2738> hi
[00:01] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd /dir   ,cd=change directory
[00:01] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd /usr/share/nvid>pressTABhere<
[00:01] <ab2qik> hi help needed with jaunty. Moved contents of /var to an lvm mount point /mnt/var. Now got probs with gnome not finding /var/lib/gdm
[00:02] <ctmjr> sadrolla: what is the problem with your web cam?
[00:02] <dethaddr> DasEi: cd: /dir: No such file or directory
[00:02] <DasEi> ab2qik: you will have to alter fstab
[00:02] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: You have a problem with your web cam  lsusb ==> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)  and maybe you can configure it with a program called cheese
[00:02] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd /usr/share/nvid>pressTABhere<
[00:03] <ab2qik> DasEi,   it was edited to reflect the lvm mount
[00:03] <DasEi> ab2qik: sudo gedit /etc/fstab, ah,  can you paste the file ?
[00:03] <Eric_xtc> Hello?
[00:04] <DasEi> ab2qik: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:04] <DasEi> ab2qik:pastebinit /etc/fstab
[00:04] <DasEi> p*
[00:04] <Eric_xtc> anyone say my name
[00:04] <DasEi> Eric_xtc:
[00:04] <ab2qik> DasEi, i tryed but cant. I wrote it on paper though. The relevant part
[00:04] <Eric_xtc> DasEi: thanks
[00:05] <dethaddr> DasEi: nope
[00:05] <sadrolla> ctmjr : i can not use my web cam lsusb [00:05] <harjot> how do i change the icon just for a specific file [its an sh script] and i want to change the icon for that file only [kubuntu im on]
[00:05] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd                  (with no arguments)
[00:06] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd   /usr/src
[00:06] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: tank i now install chess
[00:06] <ab2qik> DasEi, maybe i can write in a text file and upload to pastebin
[00:06] <DasEi> !paste
[00:06] <ab2qik> DasEi, is it ok
[00:06] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: cheese
[00:07] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: yse , cheese , 2 minits finished downlowd
[00:07] <DasEi> dethaddr: ls
[00:07] <DasEi> dethaddr: directory there ?
[00:08] <dethaddr> DasEi: yep
[00:08] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd in that blue one
[00:08] <dethaddr> DasEi: how?
[00:09] <DasEi> dethaddr: cd nvid<pressTABhere>
[00:10] <shawn_> !pastebinit
[00:10] <devZero> hey, I unstalled KVM, and setup some ubuntu guests... Every time I ssh into a guest, it atuomatically asks for my sudo passwd. Any idea why, and how to disable this?
[00:10] <harjot> how do i change the icon for a single script file not all
[00:10] <ab2qik> DasEi, posted to pastebin
[00:11] <lucaxxxxxx> hello! can we use this http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/ as a repositorie?
[00:11] <sebsebseb> lucaxxxxxx: Why do you want a later kernel? Which version of Ubuntu?
[00:11] <DasEi> ab2qik: url could be helpful ;-)
[00:11] <n8tuser> devZero -> it asked for a sudo passwd?
[00:11] <ikonia> lucaxxxxxx: unless you %100 understand it - I really would not
[00:11] <Eric_xtc> hello
[00:11] <dethaddr> DasEi: that doesnt work
[00:11] <jrib> lucaxxxxxx: umm, you can, but you probably shouldn't if you are askinng that question...
[00:11] <ikonia> Eric_xtc: have you read the rules ?
[00:11] <MenZa> lucaxxxxxx: I would definitely not recommend that.
[00:11] <devZero> nvm
[00:12] <lucaxxxxxx> well...
[00:12] <sebsebseb> lucaxxxxxx: same here I woudn't recommend that
[00:12] <Eric_xtc> Yeea sort of
[00:12] <nanotube> lucaxxxxxx: the more important question is: why are you asking? any particular need for that?
[00:12] <ab2qik> DasEi, whoops, here it is:   http://pastebin.com/d376b2030
[00:12] <lucaxxxxxx> ive downloaded lastest kernel and my computer runs so much better than with 2.6.28, but i just want to know if i can put it like repo so i dont have to worry about downloading by "hand"
[00:12] <GENT> every time i play a mp4 file i get this error message a "error ocured  The stream is encrypted and decryption is not supported."
[00:12] <DasEi> dethaddr: ls again , then cd <type what you read above>
[00:13] <sebsebseb> lucaxxxxxx: Runs better in what way?
[00:13] <Umeaboy> GENT: Download the proper codec then.
[00:13] <lucaxxxxxx> nanotube: yeah... i have an intel x3100 and with lastest kernel runs like hell
[00:13] <wahnfrieden> hi
[00:13] <wahnfrieden> can i install UBUNTU on to my car management system>?
[00:13] <GENT> Umeaboy, where?
[00:13] <wahnfrieden> I want to replace my Opel's ABS with LINUXX
[00:13] <lucaxxxxxx> sebsebseb: graphics, everything... boot time is faster...
[00:13] <Umeaboy> GENT: Synaptics.
[00:13] <sebsebseb> wahnfrieden: oh you again,  you have already been told that Ubuntu isn't for that
[00:13] <sebsebseb> lucaxxxxxx: You did Ext4?
[00:13] <ab2qik> DasEi, dev/Vg1/usr  should be /dev/Vg1/usr
[00:13] <lucaxxxxxx> i mean difference between 2.6.28 and 2.6.3x is huge!
[00:14] <lucaxxxxxx> sebsebseb: ext3
[00:14] <mlregister> Losher: Whether or not you remember, i was in here yesterday about a "ubuntu not seeing HDD space" well i got it fixed
[00:14] <dg1> Im having a problem with GNUsound in jaunty its instantly logging me out
[00:14] <sebsebseb> lucaxxxxxx: hmm interesting kind of
[00:14] <DasEi> ab2qik: sure, thats the problem, you mounted to /mnt/var  , /mnt/usr, but have to /var   resp. /usr
[00:14] <losher> mlregister: I remember. What was the solution?
[00:14] <ogarcia> hola a todos
[00:14] <Umeaboy> Why doesn't Firefox automatically handle deb-files?
[00:14] <lucaxxxxxx> i dont understand why ubuntu developers dont put a 2.6.3x kernel update on the ubuntu repos!
[00:14] <DasEi> ab2qik: second , correcting paste
[00:15] <sebsebseb> lucaxxxxxx: well  Ext4 is default  for 9.10  released on October 29th, and  it has Ext4 by default, not for upgrades though,  and yes with Ext4 boot up is rather fast and that,  plus  9.10 will have a pretty recant kernel
[00:15] <mlregister> Losher: i had to just boot the live cd and install it from that.
[00:15] <ab2qik> DasEi, sorry pls explain a bit more
[00:15] <GENT> Umeaboy, which codec?
[00:15] <dethaddr> DasEi: i cant figure it out
[00:15] <sebsebseb> lucaxxxxxx: using a kernel that isn't from the repo, is a little dodgy I guess
[00:15] <dg1> Im having a problem with GNUsound in jaunty its instantly logging me out
[00:15] <losher> mlregister: Cool. glad you got it going...
[00:15] <Umeaboy> Can't remember. Look for gstreamer-codecs.
[00:15] <sebsebseb> lucaxxxxxx: Ext3 upgrades above
[00:16] <lucaxxxxxx> sebsebseb: ive tried 9.10 alpha something... because of the kernel that it had, but i went back to 9.04 and installed 2.6.30 kernel manually, then 2.6.32 and it runs really really good
[00:16] <lucaxxxxxx> 9.10 was way crashy
[00:16] <MenZa> lucaxxxxxx: Daily kernel builds will, without question, break more than it will fix.
[00:16] <lucaxxxxxx> i know its an alpha release...
[00:17] <sebsebseb> lucaxxxxxx: You went back to 9.04, but didn't do Ext4 hmm,   as far as I know it's Ext4 that speeds things up,  and of course 9.10 was crashy it wasn't a final
[00:17] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: i install cheese and run it , but Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'cheese' received an X Window System error.
[00:17] <sadrolla> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[00:17] <sadrolla> The error was 'BadIDChoice (invalid resource ID chosen for this connection)'.
[00:17] <sadrolla>   (Details: serial 831 error_code 14 request_code 1 minor_code 0)
[00:17] <sadrolla>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[00:17] <FloodBot1> sadrolla: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <sadrolla>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[00:17] <D7> is there a package to install to have my apache server on ubuntu host a wiki or something?
[00:17] <MenZa> D7: there's a package for mediawiki, I believe.
[00:17] <prymal> D7: there's specific wiki packages that you'll need to install into apache
[00:17] <MenZa> !find mediawiki | D7
[00:17] <te> Are the ubuntu package servers slow as hell to anyone else?
[00:17] <te> im getting 21kB/s
[00:18] <fuminori> Same
[00:18] <DasEi> ab2qik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283380/
[00:18] <lucaxxxxxx> sebsebseb: MenZa i dont know... WHY--- i just know i have an intel x3100 video card, it was really really poor performance in 2.6.28 but with this kernel everything is running so so much better....
[00:18] <thiebaude> te,yep
[00:18] <MenZa> te: They are currently being hammered utterly and completely, yes.
[00:18] <sebsebseb> !intel |  lucaxxxxxx
[00:18] <te> d'oh -- bad timing for me to install ubuntu
[00:18] <DasEi> ab2qik: the dirs should be there, try : sudo mkdir /var
[00:18] <te> lol
[00:18] <DasEi> ab2qik:  sudo mkdir /usr
[00:19] <lucaxxxxxx> ok i sugest to intel users to do this update... its very very huge the difference
[00:19] <sebsebseb> lucaxxxxxx: ok well Ext4 also speeds things up :)
[00:19] <te> anyone know what the eta is on better package server speed?
[00:19] <sebsebseb> lucaxxxxxx: ,but that's got nothing to do with your Intel graphics card
[00:19] <sadrolla> sebsebseb: i install cheese and run it , but http://fpaste.org/k3Fe/
[00:19] <ikonia> te: what package sorry ?
[00:19] <sebsebseb> ctmjr: still about?
[00:20] <DasEi> te: estimated time of arrival
[00:20] <lucaxxxxxx> sebsebseb: sure it doesnt... hehe
[00:20] <te> lol i know what eta means
[00:20] <dethaddr> DasEi: it keeps saying command not found. i dont undetstand what im doing wrong.
[00:20] <ctmjr> sebsebseb: yes
[00:20] <te> im asking if anyone knows when they'll be back
[00:20] <te> (in full force)
[00:20] <ikonia> te: when what will be back ?
[00:20] <ayn> Anyone have slow wireless with Ubuntu 9.04???
[00:20] <te> the package servers
[00:20] <te> is this an abbott and costello bit?
[00:20] <ikonia> te: what package servers ?
[00:20] <DasEi> dethaddr: are you in that subfolder you unpacked now ?
[00:20] <ikonia> te: there are hundreds
[00:21] <sebsebseb> ctmjr: You know about  configuring web cams in Ubuntu and also cheese yes?   If so  hopefuly you can help  sadrolla
[00:21] <te> i dunno dude, im just downloading sources and packages lists and im getting like 20kB/s
[00:21] <Crying-wolf> be
[00:21] <ikonia> te: look in your sourcs.list file for what servers your using
[00:21] <ikonia> sources.list sorry
[00:21] <DasEi> te:use fastest mirror-search from synaptic
[00:22] <sebsebseb> sadrolla: really  you need someone with a web cam, and that has used cheese,  I am neither
[00:22] <VCoolio> Umeaboy: just reading up in here... still curious about .deb in firefox? edit > prefs > apps, set deb to be opened with gdebi-gtk
[00:22] <ayn> I'm running 64bit ubuntu and need the 32bit nvidia drivers
[00:22] <ctmjr> sadrolla: what distro of ubuntu are you using?
[00:22] <ayn> Anyone know where to get them
[00:22] <sadrolla> ctmjr: 9.04
[00:22] <ayn> 9.04
[00:22] <ikonia> ayn: you won't be able to use the 32bit modules
[00:23] <ab2qik> DasEi,   but /var existed before i added the lvm /mnt/var. After adding /mnt/var i copied /var into /mnt/var
[00:23] <sadrolla> ctmjr: i run cheese but cheese do exit
[00:23] <ctmjr> sadrolla: usb or built in?
[00:23] <ayn> I'm just trying to install world of warcraft through wine
[00:23] <ikonia> ayn: you won't be able to use the 32bit nvidia modules on your 64bit kernel
[00:23] <sebsebseb> ctmjr: lsusb ==> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:613a Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[00:23] <ayn> and I'm getting that error 132
[00:23] <sadrolla> ctmjr: usb
[00:23] <GENT> it is still not working
[00:24] <dethaddr> DasEi: no, it cleared out
[00:24] <te> ikonia: where is this option?
[00:24] <ctmjr> sadrolla: unplug it and wait a second then plug it back in
[00:24] <ikonia> te: the 64bit kernel modules power your video card within the OS - that's what you sould be using
[00:24] <ab2qik> DasEi, i dont think you can mount a an lvm mount on an existing /var mount?
[00:24] <DasEi> ab2qik: to get that straight: you copy files to the hd. the hd is mounted on any directory you tell fstab to mount to. the directory is the second "/.." in fstab.
[00:24] <te> ikonia: no man, im asking about the "fastest package server" option in synaptic
[00:24] <te> wtf is it
[00:24] <dethaddr> DasEi: and i havent unpacked it eaither.
[00:24] <ayn> I found another person with the same problem on the net, but they didn't list how to fix it.  They just wrote they needed the 32bit libs and that worked
[00:24] <sadrolla> ctmjr: http://fpaste.org/JVGj/
[00:25] <ikonia> te: apologies, I got your question mixed up with someone else
[00:25] <te> no problem
[00:25] <ikonia> ayn: you don't need the 32bit kernel modules (drivers)
[00:25] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo apt-get install unp
[00:25] <te> do you know where this fastest package server setting is
[00:25] <Umeaboy> VCoolio: Why isn't this set from the beginning?
[00:25] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo unp nvid*
[00:25] <GENT> Umeaboy, it is still not working
[00:25] <sebsebseb> te: try not to use abrivations for swearing in here
[00:25] <testnicknameforn> ignore this message, it's only a test
[00:26] <DasEi> te: snaptic > software sources
[00:26] <ctmjr> sadrolla: then run dmesg | tail and pastebin the output please
[00:26] <te> DasEi: where is the option in there i dont see it
[00:26] <VCoolio> Umeaboy: don't know, maybe .deb handling differs between distros (the -gtk part)
[00:26] <ayn> ikonia: Okies thank you, but would you happen to know anything about that "error 132" from wow
[00:26] <ab2qik> DasEi,  so if  /var already existed, an lvm can be added & mounted as /var
[00:26] <te> DasEi: nevermind, found it
[00:26] <ikonia> ayn: I don't play wow, so no, sorry.
[00:27] <dethaddr> DasEi: i did...  sudo unp nvid* and it put nvid*nvid*nvid* infront of mt name
[00:27] <dethaddr> DasEi: i unpacked it.
[00:28] <sadrolla> ctmjr: output very big , i think beter i save output in a file , why command ?
[00:28] <ab2qik> DasEi, so would that add the additional space to the already existing /var in that case?
[00:29] <ctmjr> sadrolla: if you ran dmesg | tail it is only 10 lines
[00:29] <unimatrix> how do i enable IMQ on ubuntu?
[00:30] <dragon> is there a reliable way of using torrents for dpkg?
[00:30] <sadrolla> ctmjr : no my output " sadrolla@GNU:~$ dmesg " very lines
[00:30] <ctmjr> sadrolla: when you plug the card back in and run dmesg | tail it will tell us if the drivers for your webcam are getting loaded
[00:31] <LjL> dragon: no, not really
[00:31] <DasEi> ab2qik: var existed and if you copied the old var to the lvm , can moun it there, right
[00:31] <LjL> dragon: there's been experiments, like apt-torrent, but nothing even remotely proven
[00:31] <dragon> LjL: :( I tried debtorrent a while ago but it slowed down what it was supposed to speed up
[00:31] <ctmjr> sadrolla: run it this way dmesg|tail
[00:31] <dragon> LjL: yeah hope it works out some day
[00:32] <leoncismeck> There appears to be a problem with the tracker
[00:32] <ab2qik> DasEi, yes copied contents of  old /var to lvm location /mnt/var. Is this ok?
[00:32] <leoncismeck> the 9.10 beta desktop iso torrent is not "authorized for use with this tracker."
[00:32] <LjL> dragon: well, if you just want to speed things up, you may consider downloading packages with things like "aria2" or "axel" to fetch from multiple mirrors concurrently - although i don't know if there's way to easily *integrate* them with apt (i.e. make apt-get use those instead of its own downloader, or wget or whatever it uses)
[00:32] <Flannel> leoncismeck: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic questions, thanks.
[00:32] <sadrolla> ctmjr: http://fpaste.org/CrcW/
[00:32] <leoncismeck> Flannel: woops. sorry
[00:34] <DasEi> ab2qik: nope, to change /var  you 1) mount the lvm anywhere (say /lvm) 2) copy the current, original /var  to /lvm  3) change fstab accordingly to paste given 4) remount
[00:34] <MenZa> bans
[00:34] <dethaddr> DasEi: heh.. when i sudo apt-get install unp. i get auto installd. then irun sudo unp nvid* and get nvids infron of my name
[00:34] <LjL> MenZa: they're nice to have
[00:35] <ctmjr> sadrolla: you did not unplug the card and plug it back in
[00:36] <Magician0617>  identify carlaslover
[00:37] <maco> Magician0617: nice password
[00:37] <DasEi> dethaddr: sudo tar -xvf nvid*                     , run in /usr/src
[00:37] <IdleOne> Magician0617: interresting, now change your pass :)
[00:37] <sadrolla> ctmjr: so i can not use my webcan on ubuntu ?
[00:37] <DasEi> ab2qik: to do so, first have to mount the riginal varr again
[00:37] <louis_> Is anyone positive on how I go about changing my kicker application launcher icon w/o changing all my icons?
[00:38] <ab2qik> DasEi,  In fstab the lvm device is /dev/Vg1/var. The mount point as you are saying should be /var
[00:38] <maco> louis_: launchers should have a line defining the icon. does yours not?
[00:38] <DasEi> ab2qik: right BUT before you must have the content of the original /var to /dev/Vg1/var
[00:39] <dragon> LjL: I have 4 boxes at home and am looking for a simple way to share the packages among them. But I don't want to have different configs on laptops for LAN and WAN. Torrents could have been a possibility, but...
[00:39] <louis_> not sure where to find that?
[00:39] <maco> louis_: take a look at /usr/share/applications/kde4/*.desktop to see how launchers should be formatted
[00:39] <DasEi> ab2qik: for that both partis have to be mounted
[00:39] <maco> louis_: just change the Icon= line
[00:40] <dethaddr> DasEi: what to type for  /usr/src?
[00:40] <dragon> security.ubuntu.com appears to be down btw... security breach?
[00:40] <dragon> lol
[00:40] <louis_> I'm talking about the qway you have the start icon on windows only want to change the ubuntu logo to this kick assed KDE icon and not sure about how to go about it
[00:40] <ctmjr> sadrolla: try this dmesg|grep video
[00:40] <jrib> louis_: what do you want to change the icon of *exactly*?
[00:40] <louis_> kk thanks
[00:40] <queso_> Was there some kind of forced-reboot update today? My home Ubuntu machine was rebooted when I got back from work and, while I was at work, my work Ubuntu machine rebooted *while I was using it*. I window popped up while I was typing a Jabber message and the spacebar "clicked" a button in a dialog box, but I only saw it for a second. Then my whole system went down and rebooted!
[00:41] <DasEi> ab2qik: same manner ,http://paste.ubuntu.com/283380/
[00:41] <jrib> louis_: the ubuntu icon in the menu?
[00:41] <ab2qik> DasEi, well they were both working together before. Then i deleted many files from original /var thinking lvm /mnt/var will take over.
[00:41] <maco> louis_: OH that
[00:41] <DasEi> ab2qik: oo
[00:41] <sebsebseb> queso_: You have  the updates to automatiaclly install?
[00:41] <maco> jrib: he's a kubuntu user
[00:41] <maco> louis_: lemme look
[00:42] <sadrolla> ctmjr: " mesg|grep video " not any output
[00:42] <DasEi> ab2qik: and now machine still boots or not ?
[00:42] <ab2qik> DasEi, now to do what you are saying i need to re-copy from /mnt/var back to /var, since its come originally from /var
[00:42] <queso_> sebsebseb: Only set to notify me of updates, not to download or install automatically.
[00:42] <jrib> maco: I won't even try then :)
[00:42] <maco> louis_: right click on kickoff and go to "application launcher settings" click the very large icon it shows and then choose some other icon
[00:42] <sebsebseb> queso_: only major updates such as a new kernel need an update
[00:43] <ab2qik> DasEi,  Yes it boots with a shell
[00:43] <queso_> sebsebseb: It's wierd, the power didn't go out, I don't know why my home machine would have rebooted on its own, no one else touched it.
[00:43] <dethaddr> DasEi: dethaddr@DethMachine:/usr/src$ sudo tar -xvf nvid*
[00:43] <dethaddr> tar: nvidia-173.14.16: Cannot read: Is a directory
[00:43] <dethaddr> tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now
[00:43] <dethaddr> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[00:43] <dethaddr> dethaddr@DethMachine:/usr/src$
[00:43] <FloodBot1> dethaddr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:43] <louis_> the ubuntu logo I click on to bring the menu up at the bottom right
[00:43] <ctmjr> sadrolla: did you run mesg or dmesg
[00:43] <louis_> I mean bottom left
[00:43] <sebsebseb> queso_: Maybe  the power did go out,  but only slightly,  enough for it to re boot,  but not enough for you to notice it going out
[00:43] <dethaddr> sorry room
[00:44] <maco> louis_: yeah, right click it and go to "application launcher settings"
[00:44] <queso_> sebsebseb: Yes, I know kernel updates require reboot, but it doesn't force a reboot even when there's a kernel update. Kinda strange.  Is there a website that keeps track of updates, descriptions, and date/time of release?
[00:44] <maco> louis_: itll bring up a dialog and there's an option to change the icon
[00:44] <sebsebseb> queso_: don't know
[00:44] <sebsebseb> queso_: I think someone else had a similar issue not that long ago
[00:45] <sadrolla> ctmjr: sorry http://fpaste.org/pUOr/
[00:45] <sebsebseb> queso_: Doing stuff on  Ubuntu, and then re boot just like that
[00:45] <ab2qik> DasEi,  keeps saying that ServAuth=/var/lib/gdm and as such cannot find it. So it looked like its needs to be updated to read as /mnt/var/lib/gdm
[00:45] <DrX> anyone know a reliable way to run Ubuntu 6.1 (Edgy) virtually under Windows using very little RAM (128M or so)?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> queso_: I think maybe at least once I have had something like this happen to  my Ubuntu as well
[00:45] <dethaddr> DasEi:  i got that far. but i get an error
[00:45] <DasEi> ab2qik: so I'd try to get back the old function first, then repair the system as broken (recovery console) then make prober proper copies of /var and /usr and then alter fstab
[00:45] <sebsebseb> queso_: It was probably just some little hardware issue,  that just happended to result in a re boot,  and in that case something that isn't worth worrying about.
[00:46] <queso_> sebsebseb: Glad to know I'm not going crazy and that it's happened to others :) but a bit alarming, to be sure.
[00:46] <louis_> It has general settings and keyboard shortcut as options sets
[00:46] <sebsebseb> queso_: or maybe a bug in Ubuntu that resulted in a re boot
[00:46] <fccf> DrX: yeah, but you would only be able to run a text-mode server
[00:46] <queso_> sebsebseb: That it happened to two seperate machines in two different cities made me think it was related to an update.
[00:46] <joshua__> how come my screensaver won't activate? like i can manually make it coming on by locking the screen but it won't come on by itself
[00:46] <flanders> Encrypting the root partition without losing existing data on an existing installation is starting to really confuse me. Whether on Ubuntu or openSUSE, I find myself MORE confused when trying to follow the tutorials.
[00:46] <maco> louis_: eh? i see "menu editor" "switch to classic menu style" "application launcher settings" "remove this application launcher" and "panel options"
[00:47] <maco> louis_: lets go to #kubuntu
[00:47] <eugene_> hi dear all
[00:47] <maco> louis_: this may be because im using kde 4.3
[00:47] <poony> I have ubuntu + wine, with mirc installed, were do i find the mirc directory? noob question i know...
[00:47] <dethaddr> DasEi:  tar: nvidia-173.14.16: Cannot read: Is a directory,tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now,tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[00:47] <eugene_> I just tried to install alpha 9.10 and I have grub 17 error after reboot
[00:47] <maco> poony: ~/.wine/c/Program Files/  ...i think
[00:47] <DasEi> dethaddr: ...
[00:47] <flanders> What exactly is the /boot partition, anyways? It houses the kernels and initial ramdisks, okay. Is this simpy what GRUB (or whatever MBR) points to when booting into an OS?
[00:47] <joshua__> any ideas?
[00:48] <eugene_> can anyone suggest why is that?
[00:48] <poony> ill chkf it out, thanks maco
[00:48] <ab2qik> DasEi, 1. copy /mnt/var into /var  2. mount /var 3. add fstab entries
[00:48] <dethaddr> DasEi:  oh no. speechless
[00:48] <Jill> is there a gtk software to use mumble voice chat
[00:48] <Jill> ?
[00:48] <queso_> sebsebseb: Well, anyway, thanks for your help :) have a good evening.
[00:48] <maco> poony: the . means .wine is a hidden folder in your directory. so if you go view -> hidden files and folders it should show up
[00:48] <joshua__> eugene_, are you dual booting on 2 hard drives?
[00:48] <Rugart> someone uses vmware?
[00:48] <ab2qik> DasEi, Or are the steps not quite right?
[00:49] <eugene_> no. i have two drives but I didnt specify how to use the second at installation
[00:49] <sebsebseb> queso_: not the evening anymore in my time zone
[00:49] <sebsebseb> queso_: np
[00:49] <poony> alright, hold on:D
[00:49] <queso_> sebsebseb: aah, sorry. :) then have a good next few hours ;)
[00:49] <joshua__> eugene_, perhaps the boot loader got installed on the wrong hard drive, try setting the boot order to boot from the other hard drive first
[00:49] <poony> ugh, i dont even know were to find that
[00:49] <ab2qik> DasEi, is the recovery option available in live cd?
[00:49] <sadrolla> ctmjr: http://fpaste.org/pUOr/
[00:50] <eugene_> I did. that computer just hangs
[00:50] <losher> flanders: at one time, booting required files to be located within the first I forget-how-many sectors of the hard drive. Putting /boot there satisfied this condition. On modern motherboards, it's no longer a requirement...
[00:50] <sebsebseb> queso_: thanks
[00:50] <eugene_> *that = than
[00:50] <fccf> !info mumble | Jill
[00:50] <DasEi> dethaddr: tar xfvz *tar.gz   in /usr/src
[00:50] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, I put the ddr2 back in and the cache is at 73% when it was at 20% with the ddr1.............. I suppose its a bad thing to have the cache max like that?
[00:50] <joshua__> eugene_, strange... defiantly sounds like something with Grub, and i really don't know what else to suggest
[00:51] <DasEi> ab2qik: no, but from grub menu,  and the non-live, so alternate cd has a repair option, too
[00:51] <flanders> losher: Well, the thing is, I know there must exist a non-encrypted /boot partition if one wishes to have an encrypted root partition.
[00:51] <dethaddr> DasEi:  lots of errors. but most say the file already exists
[00:51] <eugene_> moreover. when i tried to load from 9.04 livecd and install it -- it tells me -- hey man I see 9.10 do you really want to erase it
[00:51] <eugene_> so it must be grub
[00:51] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: seems a hardware issue
[00:51] <flanders> losher: But I'm burning my brain trying to understand how to safely encrypt my root partition without ruining the installation or screwing up any updates, etc.
[00:52] <joshua__> eugene_, that is what I am guessing...
[00:52] <sadrolla> کسی هست که ایرانی بلد باشه ؟
[00:52] <aliendude5300> When is Karmic Beta due for release? I thought it was supposed to be today.
[00:52] <eugene_> :) well thanks
[00:52] <dethaddr> DasEi: does that mean its already running?
[00:52] <joshua__> eugene_, have you tried reinstalling grub form the live disc yet?
[00:52] <DasEi> dethaddr: so cd in there
[00:52] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: 29th October
[00:52] <fccf> !karmic
[00:52] <flanders> losher: I figured /boot (non-encrypted), followed by / (encrypted) followed by /home (encrypted) makes sense.
[00:52] <aliendude5300> sebsebseb: Not the final release -- the "BETA" version
[00:52] <joshua__> The beta was released today aliendude5300
[00:52] <eugene_> I am not that good. don;t know how to do that
[00:52] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: the beta is/was (depending on time zone)  the first of October
[00:52] <eugene_> could you point me to docs
[00:53] <flanders> losher: Problem is, things start to confuse me when it comes to dm-crypt and luks and dd, etc.
[00:53] <aliendude5300> joshua__: That's odd... I'm on the alpha, but it appears the release hasn
[00:53] <joshua__> eugene_, give me a few and I will look
[00:53] <aliendude5300> 't been announced through the update-manager
[00:53] <joshua__> aliendude5300, if you are up  to date then you are funning the beta
[00:53] <bogu2009> Hello ther
[00:53] <dethaddr> DasEi: ok
[00:53] <eugene_> ok, thanks
[00:53] <losher> flanders: Sorry, dunno much about encryption so I can't advise you, but it makes sense that *some* part of the boot process has to start out unencrypted. And there's nothing "interesting" in /boot, it's all standard stuff...
[00:53] <bogu2009> There
[00:53] <fccf> sebsebseb: no, beta went live today
[00:53] <ab2qik> DasEi, as 1st step should the files be copied back into /var?
[00:53] <aliendude5300> It should appear as a distribution update, am I right?
[00:54] <joshua__> aliendude5300, no
[00:54] <joshua__> aliendude5300, and it won't when it goes gold either
[00:54] <flanders> losher: What is the best way to make a duplicate copy of my /boot folder to the new /boot partition? I was told "dd" would work.
[00:54] <sebsebseb> fccf:  beta  on the 1st, but it's the 2nd now in  a lot of the world
[00:54] <ctmjr> sadrolla: your drivers are not get loaded am looking to see if there is a driver for it
[00:54] <aliendude5300> It simply says I'm running "Ubuntu karmic (development branch)"
[00:54] <DasEi> ab2qik: this mess is a little hairy,  can you boot a live cd on that comp and then come back in here ?
[00:54] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: ok you upgraded 9.04 to 9.10 or what?
[00:55] <flanders> losher: Can I simply do "cp -a /boot /mnt/newboot" without worrying about the new /boot partition being unbootable?
[00:55] <aliendude5300> I've been running 9.10 for a long time now.
[00:55] <sadrolla> ctmjr: ok tanks so i wait for u :d
[00:55] <aliendude5300> I used to be running 9.04 alpha.
[00:55] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: ok well then you should be getting support in #ubuntu+1 and not here
[00:55] <bogu2009> When the 9.10 will be release?
[00:55] <aliendude5300> sebsebseb: It's not really support if it
[00:55] <AstroEl> !karmic
[00:55] <aliendude5300> doesn't matter what release I'm on
[00:55] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: if your re installing 9.04
[00:55] <DasEi> flanders : fstab & mark bootable reqired (f.e. gparted)
[00:56] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: let it go over Grub
[00:56] <joshua__> aliendude5300, not really but they are kinda picky about that kinda stuff
[00:56] <aliendude5300> I'm not reinstalling 9.04
[00:56] <ab2qik> DasEi, ok thanks. Will shut this OS on this machine in order to get at ubuntu dual boot
[00:56] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: ok well I missed most of your issue it's up there some where
[00:56] <losher> flanders: what are you planning to do with this copy of the boot partition?
[00:56] <aliendude5300> I'm trying to upgrade from 9.10 alpha to the beta release.
[00:57] <flanders> DasEi: I don't need to touch the drive's MBR at all then?
[00:57] <aliendude5300> Nothing seems to have changed. It should appear as a distribution update
[00:57] <joshua__> aliendude5300, I told you... if you have 9.10 and it is current then you already have the beta
[00:57] <flanders> losher: I want to make a separate /boot partition (not simply a directory within the root partition) that Linux will boot from.
[00:57] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: ok well then yes you are in the wrong channel you should be in #ubuntu+1 asking for help
[00:57] <DasEi> flanders: nope, /boot is not mbr located
[00:57] <flanders> DasEi: Alright, thanks.
[00:57] <sebsebseb> joshua__: or maybe not exactly, because of issues that remained from the alpha
[00:58] <flanders> Another grub question: (hd0,1) refers to physical drive 1, partition 2?
[00:58] <losher> flanders: sorry, I'm not sure. You need someone who knows more about the boot process than I do...
[00:58] <sebsebseb> flanders: yes
[00:58] <flanders> sebsebseb: Okay.
[00:59] <aliendude5300> sebsebseb: what's the reason for isolating alpha users? I know that it may be to prevent questions that can't be answered here, or require particular attention, but for the most part, unless a question applies specifically to a release and not the distribution in general, I see no reason to go to a channel with MUCH less people.
[00:59] <dethaddr> DasEi: am i screwed?
[00:59] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: I am not an op of this channel,  I don't make the channel rules,  and you can ask them in #ubuntu-ops
[00:59] <joshua__> aliendude5300, of course can always download the ISo and to a clean install which is usually recommended anyways
[01:00] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: persoanlly I think it's a good thing that it's seperate before the final, because of the issues that can happen
[01:00] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: thing is since it's getting mentioned in here quite a lot, there are people going to it already,  that shoudn't really be using it untill the final
[01:00] <DasEi> dethaddr: no, it's a very simple thing, unpack the tar.gz, cd in the new dir and run nvidia-xconfig, maybe have a break
[01:01] <losher> aliendude5300: I assume because karmic alpha is sufficiently unstable that even basic functionality isn't guaranteed and it's targetted at pro users for now. You don't want to mix that in with the newbies trying to boot 8.04...
[01:01] <shinichizio> Help help how do I fixed segmentation fault?
[01:01] <Trizicus> the dircolors in ubuntu. Are they in octal format?
[01:02] <bobertdos> shinichizio: segfaults are usually a programming issue, not much you can do at end user level
[01:02] <shinichizio> Well...dang.
[01:02] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: yes  what losher  put basically,   except it's  beta now, and most of the newbies do 9.04
[01:02] <shinichizio> Because XMMS just did it to me after about two years of working totally fine.
[01:02] <shinichizio> bobertdos: Is there anything you can do to -cause- them?
[01:03] <dethaddr> DasEi: where is the new directory?
[01:03] <caca> i need help in phpmyadmin
[01:03] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, but is it a necessarily bad event when there is a lot in cache? I am running ubuntu 64 bit
[01:03] <bobo> hey guys, im upgrading my system right now, and my problem is that my download speed is only like 50 kB/ps, but my internet connection is much better. what gives?
[01:03] <bobo> my download speed from the ubuntu server that is
[01:03] <bobertdos> Trizicus: If your talking about permissions, well yes they can be expressed in octal.......
[01:03] <caca> I can't configurate my phpmyadmin
[01:03] <caca> i can't log in
[01:04] <ctmjr> sadrolla: i think you might be outa luck with your cam http://www.64bitjungle.com/tech/microdia-webcam-0c54-experimental-drivers-installation-and-testing-part-1/
[01:04] <Trizicus> bobertdos: I mean when you ls and each file is in a different color. I noticed that you change the color based on two integers. Are they based on octal?
[01:04] <bobertdos> shinichizio: Well, what was the last thing you did before it happened?
[01:04] <sebsebseb> losher: 8.04 is seen as old by most of the newbies,   it's us  more experiended users that know, that depending on hardware for example, that sometimes an older release such as 8.10 or 8.04 is actsaully better
[01:04] <losher> sebsebseb: just because they call it 'beta' doesn't actually make it beta quality. For an example of the disadvantages of time-based releases, just watch Lucy and Ethel in the chocolate assembly line episode...
[01:04] <losher>  
[01:04] <caca> i install the pakeges..
[01:04] <shinichizio> bobertdos: I tried to play a music file from a folder on my desktop. Never did that before.
[01:05] <ctmjr> sadrolla: your cam is not on the list
[01:05] <shinichizio> bobertdos: Which is to say it never had a problem with me doing that. I always open it that way.
[01:05] <sebsebseb> losher: What's that?   and at least it's not like Microsoft rushing  beta out and then ruishing the relase candiate and then rushing the final out.   Ubuntu and most other opensource/freesoftwares goes through loads of testing first unlike most/all commercial software
[01:05] <eventualbuddha> I'm looking for a way to get the exit status of the first program in a series of pipes. is this possible? (e.g. if I run `foo | tee`, I seem to get the exit status of tee, not foo)
[01:06] <caca> phpmyadmin...anybody can helpme?
[01:06] <sadrolla> ctmjr: so i can not  my web cam on ubuntu :d tanks my frends
[01:06] <bobertdos> shinichizio: Well, try rebooting. It might not help, but in a nutshell, segfaulting is a memory thing.
[01:06] <shinichizio> bobertdos: I've rebooted twice now. Should I just leave the thing alone for a while?
[01:06] <mlregister> when u right click an .exe file and click open with wine program loader, it is supposed to start up that right? because mine is not starting....
[01:06] <losher> sebsebseb: Except that time-based releases, by definition, have to go out on the prescribed date, whether they are ready or not. And sometimes, they are not ready...
[01:07] <ctmjr> sadrolla: that is what i come up with but have been wrong before and i hope i am this time
[01:07] <dethaddr> DasEi: i can just right click on the tar.gz file and extract it right?
[01:07] <bobertdos> shinichizio: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:07] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: losher  has a point there, just, because it's beta, doesn't nessariley make it beta quailty,   there can still be alpha type bugs.   When the final is out  that's when newbies and other Ubuntu users should be getting it,  plus that's when this channel can be used for supporting it, without being told to go to the other.
[01:07] <shinichizio> Uhh.
[01:07] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: not until you get performance issues
[01:07] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: untill it no longer gets supported
[01:07] <bobertdos> !pm > caca
[01:07] <Flannel> losher: While there's some truth to that, it's not entirely accurate.  For example, during the alpha stage, there's no guarantee for stability, so massive changes to core stuff gets pushed all the time and things break daily.  During this stage, there's increased expectations of things to break less, so people will be less likely to break things.
[01:07] <DasEi> dethaddr: on the desk, yes
[01:08] <shinichizio> bobertdos: Dapper Drake.
[01:08] <shinichizio> 10-to-1 that your next advice is 'upgrade'.
[01:08] <bobertdos> shinichizio: Oh wow, is there something preventing you from upgrading?
[01:08] <Flannel> shinichizio: Server? or Desktop?
[01:08] <Flannel> Oh, xmms.  Desktop.
[01:08] <shinichizio> Flannel: Desktop
[01:08] <sadrolla> ctmjr: i low english , u think i can into feucher use my webcam ?
[01:08] <dethaddr> DasEi: so what do i do with that?    cd  /usr/src again?
[01:09] <Flannel> shinichizio: You're aware that Dapper's EOL, right?
[01:09]  * |biovore| still has a Dapper Drake (6.06) server
[01:09] <shinichizio> bobertdos: Only a dangerous lack of computer (specifically, Ubuntu) literacy.
[01:09] <shinichizio> Flannel: I don't even know what EOL means, so totally no.
[01:09] <caca> phpmyadmin...anybody helpme?
[01:09] <Biovore> deskop is eof.. server is still good for another year
[01:09] <ricky21tom> hello can any body help me with partimage
[01:09] <Jason2gs> I can't view  certain files and folders in my home folder. I know the files and folders are there. I can access them through nautilus (either by punching the path in through nautilus, or by running 'nautilus pathname' in the terminal. The files and folders are also listed via 'ls'. I just can't view them in my home folder, it seems.
[01:09] <Biovore> EOF -- End of Life.
[01:09] <caca> phpmyadmin...anybody helpme?
[01:09] <Flannel> shinichizio: EOL, end of life.  No more updates.  You should consider upgrading to 8.04, you don't need any technical know-how, the upgrader does it all for you (I just went through it not too long ago)
[01:09] <mlregister> can someone explain to me why Wine is not working? it isnt opening the install with wine program loader thing....
[01:09] <caca> phpmyadmin...anybody helpme?
[01:09] <bobertdos> shinichizio: end of life. Do you want help upgrading? We'll walk you through.
[01:09] <Flannel> !repeat | caca
[01:10] <ctmjr> sadrolla: I would hold onto it and see if they include a driver for it
[01:10] <shinichizio> bobertdos: (and possibly Flannel) Is that something I need to download? Or pay for?
[01:10] <losher> Flannel: sebsebseb: I don't disagree with you all. And deciding when something is 'ready' is a judgement call too. It's kind of a balancing act, and depends on what mix of stability & new features one is comfortable with. Personally, I'm an 8.04 fan...
[01:10] <Flannel> shinichizio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Upgrade%20from%206.06%20LTS%20to%208.04%20LTS  You'll have to download some packages, yeah.
[01:10] <bobertdos> shinichizio: no
[01:10] <Flannel> shinichizio: but not pay for, certainly not.
[01:10] <DasEi> dethaddr: http://tinyurl.com/ydjljg7
[01:10] <Biovore> 6.06 is not at eof as a server.
[01:10] <shinichizio> Flannel: Okay, thanks.
[01:10] <GnosticAscension> hello
[01:10] <Flannel> Biovore: That's correct, for two more years.
[01:10] <ricky21tom> ActionParsnip: hey are you there
[01:11] <Biovore> I still run a 6.06 server here..
[01:11] <DasEi> shinichizio: consider a fresh install of :
[01:11] <DasEi> !jaunty
[01:11] <joshua__> is that still suported>
[01:11] <GnosticAscension> I actually came here 'cause this is a channel  that I know very well
[01:11] <U-b-u-n-t-u> DasEi, I think my vid car borrows from the on board ram and the vid card is suppose to be ddr1 and I have ddr2 installed but I thought it would just clock down for the vid card board (reading mobo and vid card user guilds now)  =_=
[01:11] <shinichizio> DasEi: Is that a shorter d/l than Hardy?
[01:11] <ricky21tom> hello can any body help me
[01:11] <dethaddr> DasEi: omg
[01:11] <GnosticAscension> so don't get me wrong...but is there anyplace on Freenode where I can get help regarding LabVIEW stuff?
[01:12] <GnosticAscension> hi ricky
[01:12] <bobertdos> shinichizio: From medium to medium, they're all about the same.
[01:12] <younder> ok, I made a chat bot that broke the tuing text, what do I do
[01:12] <Flannel> shinichizio: I suggest sticking with the LTS releases, so you only have to upgrade every two years
[01:12] <sebsebseb> losher: I want to continue our chat, but in pm
[01:12] <ricky21tom> GnosticAscension: hiii dude
[01:12] <dethaddr> DasEi: is what we have beem trying to install the nvidia x server settings i just found?
[01:12] <shinichizio> bobertdos: Ok, good. I have dial-up, so size is a nontrivial issue.
[01:12] <shinichizio> Flannel: I'll keep that in mind.
[01:13] <losher> sebsebseb: very good. Or would you prefer #ubuntu-offtopic so others can join too?
[01:13] <Flannel> shinichizio: depending on where you're located, you can probably get your LoCo team to send you an Alternate CD in the mail, which will greatly reduce your download
[01:13] <DasEi> U-b-u-n-t-u: the graphics won't clock fsb down, and shared ram takes from whatever type you installed and whatever you told bios to share
[01:13] <ctmjr> sadrolla: I spoke too soon it seams there is a driver for it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375005
[01:13] <ricky21tom> GnosticAscension: hey do you know about partimage application
[01:13] <bobertdos> shinichizio: If you wouldn't mind a BIT of money, you could always order a disc.
[01:13] <harisund> Is it just me or is http://ubuntu.com down?
[01:13] <DasEi> dethaddr: YES
[01:14] <younder> well  It's python so I ques I just publish the code
[01:14] <bastidrazor>  ll: D?_ :?/ ? N9
[01:14] <younder> wanna see
[01:14] <Flannel> younder: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
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[01:14] <dethaddr> DasEi: its been there the whole time i think. 2 hours ago since the synaptic finished
[01:14] <bobertdos> harisund: works for me
[01:14] <younder> I guess not
[01:14] <DasEi> shinichizio: no, but from that old release is might be less work to use a current release, as updating version per version
[01:15] <bastidrazor> sorry my 2 year old got to the keyboard.
[01:15] <ricky21tom> hey can any body help me
[01:15] <harisund> bobertdos, k thanks I am not able to go to Ubuntu's home page :( will check it out, maybe some other issue
[01:15] <younder> why am I not suprised
[01:15] <zen-tao> !aks | ricky21tom
[01:15] <zen-tao> !ask | ricky21tom
[01:15] <Wall975> PLEASE I'M A NOVICE IN LINUX
[01:16] <Wall975> I'M TRYING TO CREATE A SCRIPT
[01:16] <DasEi> !caps
[01:16] <zen-tao> Wall975: Please stop SHOUTING
[01:16] <younder> no caps please
[01:16] <ricky21tom> zen-tao: hey do know about the application partimage
[01:16] <Wall975> soory guys
[01:16] <dethaddr> DasEi: now that i have this, here in front of me, what do i need to tell it to do?
[01:17] <zen-tao> ricky21tom: a little bit - been ages since I used it, though.
[01:17] <DasEi> dethaddr: set your monitor and your desired resolution, colordeph
[01:18] <shinichizio> Well, it looks like I'm driving down and picking up an install disc. Thanks for the help bobertdos, Flannel, DasEi.
[01:18] <ricky21tom> zen-tao: hey i wanted to create a bootable backup dvd
[01:18] <dethaddr> DasEi: so the big test.
[01:19] <zen-tao> ricky21tom: Partimage is a hard disk partitioning tool - it's not for making DVDs
[01:19] <mlregister> does anyone here have a good link to installing WoW with wine?
[01:19] <joshua__> mlregister, get windows...
[01:19] <Wall975> wanna create a script that ask the person to enter his name.if that person doesnt exist,it will ask him to enter his name
[01:20] <bastidrazor> !apdb | mlregister or there is a #winehq channel
[01:20] <sadrolla> ctmjr: very very tanks
[01:20] <bastidrazor> !appdb > mlregister
[01:20] <ricky21tom> zen-tao: so can you recommend me an application
[01:20] <mlregister> what is !appdb?
[01:21] <bastidrazor> mlregister: look at your private messages
[01:21] <DasEi> mlregister: http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_functionality_on_Wine , winedb or #winehq for more
[01:21] <zen-tao> ricky21tom: Brasero is the default ubuntu burning app, IIRC - but you could also use K3B, among others.
[01:21] <xkakarotto> #ubuntu-br
[01:21] <ctmjr> sadrolla: your welcome good luck
[01:22] <eric1> Help needed with SiS 661 driver on 9.04
[01:22] <ricky21tom> zen-tao: hey let me explain you what i have to do
[01:22] <zen-tao> ricky21tom: Go ahead...
[01:24] <Farrel> any help in setting resolution for a game using C++ and opengl?
[01:24] <ricky21tom> zen-tao: i have window xp installed but i wanted to backup the entire partition so that if in future if the virus attacks then atleast i can restore from bootable backup dvd.
[01:25] <blunder> doesnt blizzard not like wine
[01:25] <Farrel> coding using C++ and openGL?
[01:25] <zen-tao> ricky21tom: Sorry, I am an idiot! - I was thinking of parted when you saaid partimage - doh!
[01:26] <bastidrazor> ricky21tom: you're trying to make a backup DVD of a windows install?
[01:26] <blunder> a while ago I heard someone getting banned for using wine
[01:26] <Guest13718> hello, is anyone here?
[01:26] <rooftops> i am
[01:26] <Farrel> i will pay money guys?
[01:26] <zen-tao> I'm not :)
[01:26] <Guest13718> i am having trouble getting my webcam and usb headset working
[01:26] <sadrolla> ctmjr: sorry my frinds , i use sudo make install but , shell wrote make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[01:27] <ricky21tom> zen-tao: so was i right with the opinion should i use the partimage
[01:27] <scott_ino> ricky21tom, wont something like clonezilla work for that, you can just make an .iso of the partition
[01:27] <Level15> hi: when i installed ubuntu, it asked for my hostname and domain. now that it is installed, how do i change that?
[01:28] <sadrolla> ctmjr: http://fpaste.org/0rS2/           http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375005
[01:28] <Flannel> !hostname | Level15
[01:28] <paco_the_taco> hey
[01:28] <paco_the_taco> can anyone see me type?
[01:28] <Guest13718> i can
[01:28] <orwell> yeah
[01:28] <paco_the_taco> ok
[01:29] <ricky21tom> scott_ino: but i wanted to use the ubuntu application and wanted a bootable backup dvd
[01:29] <zen-tao> ricky21tom: To back up a windows install, I would probably use a native windows tool myself (something like ghost) but partimage would probably do the job. But I've never used it.
[01:29] <orwell> and can you see mine
[01:29] <Guest13718> yes orwell
[01:29] <paco_the_taco> well, im going to be deaed serious, i think my HOSTS file was edidited my some script, and now i get a lot of ads of uhm porn :(
[01:29] <scott_ino> ricky21tom, yeah i mean you can probably do it with partimage i just know clonezilla is easy and it's open source so hey
[01:29] <paco_the_taco> how do i fix it?>
[01:29] <CavalierPrime> clonezilla
[01:29] <orwell> iPhone power
[01:29] <Guest13718> ha orwell your on an iphone?
[01:29] <orwell> nice my app works
[01:30] <orwell> yeah
[01:30] <paco_the_taco> orwell: will you help me>?
[01:30] <orwell> if I can
[01:30] <paco_the_taco> did you see what i typed earlier?
[01:30] <ricky21tom> zen-tao: will it can perform the job of bootable backup image
[01:30] <eric1> would anyone like to try to answer a question about SiS 661 VGA support on 9.04?
[01:31] <orwell> well is it just in firefox
[01:31] <paco_the_taco> nope
[01:31] <homebrewcider> Hi there, can someone help, I'm using Xubuntu 9.04. The computer is dual boot, with winblows on another drive. My clock in Xubuntu is always wrong. It is set up for the correct time zone, and to I've set it up to check internet servers, and adjusted it manually. In "/etc/default/rcS" I've set the "UTC" option to "yes", and "no", but it keeps being wrong on reboot. What can I do?
[01:31] <paco_the_taco> even if firefox is closed, i get a lot of ad porn popups :(
[01:31] <orwell> or do they pop up on desktop
[01:31] <paco_the_taco> on the desktop
[01:31] <paco_the_taco> am i infected?!?!
[01:31] <CavalierPrime> ricky21tom:  clonezilla image will be bootable if you are imaging a bootable drive
[01:31] <orwell> yeah
[01:31] <zen-tao> ricky21tom: Sorry, I don't know. Like I said I've never used it - I was thinking of parted.
[01:31] <joshua__> you're infected aright paco_the_taco
[01:32] <paco_the_taco> :(
[01:32] <orwell> sounds like a rouge script
[01:32] <paco_the_taco> help me pleaase?
[01:32] <scott_ino> paco wtf... is this on linux
[01:32] <paco_the_taco> please*?
[01:32] <paco_the_taco> yes scott_ino
[01:32] <paco_the_taco> ubuntu 9.0.4
[01:32] <orwell> it could be anywhere
[01:32] <scott_ino> whaaaat im shocked...
[01:32] <ab2qik> DasEi, files were copied back to original /var. I managed to login in the usual way, not with shell. Gave username & password but was then presente with a black screen
[01:32] <joshua__> afraid there is no good news when it comes to the swine flue
[01:32] <scott_ino> yeah you definitely got some scripts runnin or somethin
[01:32] <paco_the_taco> what a/v do i use to fix it?
[01:32] <ricky21tom> scott_ino: i dont know how will i use the partimage or clonezilla will create the bootable backup DVD
[01:32] <orwell> got it from pirated software
[01:32] <paco_the_taco> no.
[01:33] <Guest13718> scott_ino: could you help me for a second?
[01:33] <paco_the_taco> i dont pirate
[01:33] <scott_ino> ricky21tom, the clonezilla site has good documentation, i normally only use it to do entire disk backups
[01:33] <ricky21tom> zen-tao: thanks any way there is nothing to be sorry
[01:33] <scott_ino> Guest13718, with??
[01:33] <Guest13718> my usb headset and webcam dont work
[01:33] <paco_the_taco> joshua__: , how do i fix it?
[01:33] <joshua__> we are pirates that don't do anything
[01:33] <joshua__> paco_the_taco, you get the vaccine....
[01:33] <paco_the_taco> do i have to format and loose all my data?!
[01:33] <Guest13718> my usb headset is a logitech usb headset, and the webcam is a microsoft vx 3000
[01:33] <paco_the_taco> how?
[01:33] <scott_ino> Guest13718, ummm alright have i helped you before just wondering why you asked for me ;-)
[01:33] <paco_the_taco> im sick of this porno popping up on my screen seriously
[01:34] <joshua__> go to your local hospital and describe your symptoms to the doctor...
[01:34] <paco_the_taco> and its not even the kind i like
[01:34] <Guest13718> you have?
[01:34] <Guest13718> lol
[01:34] <ricky21tom> zen-tao: we are human tend do mistake but learn from mistake
[01:34] <scott_ino> Guest13718, no i was asking
[01:34] <zen-tao> homebrewcider: Is the clock malfunctioning in Windows also? or is it just in Linux?
[01:34] <Guest13718> nope, first time here
[01:34] <Guest13718> :D
[01:34] <ricky21tom> scott_ino: hey i have installed the partimage but not able to use it
[01:34] <paco_the_taco> but joshua__  its like buy now! buy now! enter your credit card information here! buy ubuntu!
[01:34] <paco_the_taco> should i enter it?
[01:35] <scott_ino> ricky21tom, unfortunately i wont be able to help you with partimage as i don't use it
[01:35] <scott_ino> Guest13718, let's start with the webcam let me check if it's even supported
[01:35] <Guest13718> it was on the list
[01:35] <blakamin> paco_the_taco, are you trolling?
[01:35] <paco_the_taco> well, should i enter my credit card information?
[01:35] <joshua__> paco_the_taco, maybe it is not the swing flu then...
[01:35] <paco_the_taco> no im not trolling,..
[01:35] <paco_the_taco> im dead serious
[01:35] <homebrewcider> just linux
[01:35] <scott_ino> Guest13718, yes but by what set of drivers do you know
[01:36] <Guest13718> what set of drivers?
[01:36] <blakamin> why would you EVER enter a CC into a thing you have just described as a pop-up?
[01:36] <Guest13718> i had it on firefox ill find the link
[01:36] <paco_the_taco> but blakamin  its telling me to register ubuntu
[01:36] <ricky21tom> scott_ino: ok fine i will install now the clonezilla just guide me ok
[01:36] <joshua__> paco_the_taco, perhaps you should stop looking at porn and restart your computer and see it they go away
[01:36] <paco_the_taco> joshua__: , i wasn't looking at porno in the first place, every window is closed, and they just keep poppin gup
[01:36] <blakamin> you dont register ubuntu!!!! take a screenshot
[01:36] <paco_the_taco> popping up*, even if i restart
[01:37] <joshua__> paco_the_taco, restart
[01:37] <homebrewcider> zen-tao  just linux
[01:37] <paco_the_taco> i cant &_& my desktop is cluttered
[01:37] <scott_ino> ricky21tom, clonezilla is a live CD and im leaving in 15 so... probably wont be able to just fyi sorry :(
[01:37] <Guest13718> scott_ino:
[01:37] <Guest13718> its here
[01:37] <Guest13718> o woops
[01:37] <TechN9ne> Hi, i have a 900mhz 1.5G ram desktop with ubuntu 8.10 but its seems slow what can i do to speed it up?
[01:37] <Guest13718> lol
[01:37] <FloodBot1> Guest13718: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <joshua__> paco_the_taco, do you have a window near by?
[01:37] <ab2qik> DasEi,  are you around
[01:37] <Guest13718> ok here scott_ino, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[01:37] <paco_the_taco> yes im on it right now joshua__
[01:37] <CavalierPrime> paco:  go download the clamav live cd and use it
[01:37] <paco_the_taco> im just sitting here crying :(
[01:37] <Guest13718> microsoft lifecam vx 3000
[01:37] <joshua__> No i mean a actual window made of glass
[01:37] <scott_ino> TechN9ne, first turn off unneeded services, try another window manager
[01:37] <bobertdos> ricky21tom:  I can try helping you with partimage a bit.
[01:37] <ctmjr> sadrolla: did you run make without errors?
[01:38] <ricky21tom> bobertdos: thanx
[01:38] <DasEi> ab2qik: yep
[01:38] <mrpockets> maybe i'm just retarded, but i'm trying to add universe repos in Ubntu
[01:38] <paco_the_taco> CavalierPrime:  that will remove it correct?
[01:38] <ricky21tom> scott_ino: ok fine be
[01:38] <mrpockets> and i can't find the URL for them ANYWAYERE
[01:38] <CavalierPrime> paco:  yes
[01:38] <ricky21tom> scott_ino: byee
[01:38] <sadrolla> ctmjr: i use ubuntu 9.04 but newer file for ubuntu 7.04 :d
[01:38] <scott_ino> sorry ricky21tom
[01:38] <DasEi> ab2qik: you on live now ?
[01:38] <paco_the_taco> CavalierPrime:  please give me a link via pm
[01:38] <DasEi> ab2qik: you're on live now ?*
[01:38] <paco_the_taco> i really want this porno off my desktop, and these ads to stop showing up
[01:39] <TechN9ne> unneeded services are off and turned off metacity will upgrading the processcer help?
[01:39] <bobertdos> mrpockets:  Go into System -> Administration -> Software Sources and check it off.
[01:39] <ab2qik> DasEi, no. its vista dual boot
[01:39] <scott_ino> Guest13718, ummmm did you read the description, doesn't look like it's the best supported, however it works with GSPCA
[01:39] <joshua__> anyways... if you are near a window, and this will only work if you are on the second floor paco_the_taco
[01:39] <joshua__> I want you to open the window
[01:39] <Flannel> joshua__: Please don't
[01:39] <mrpockets> bobertdos, CLi only, trying to add it via Sources.list
[01:39] <joshua__> take your tower...
[01:39] <Guest13718> how do i get GSPCA?
[01:39] <joshua__> and drag and drop
[01:39] <ab2qik> DasEi, i got to the login but ggot black screen after that
[01:39] <joshua__> Flannel, what?
[01:39] <zen-tao> homebrewcider: Wierd - if it was both I would have said yoour CMOS battery needs to be replaced. But if it's just in linux I would suggest that there is a chance windows is changing the clock when you boot into that OS
[01:40] <Flannel> zen-tao, homebrewcider: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Multiple Boot Systems Time Conflicts
[01:40] <DasEi> ab2qik:in the live cd ? tried rebooting ?
[01:40] <ricky21tom> scott_ino: its fine Dude help me next time
[01:40] <TechN9ne> scott_ino, unneeded services are off and turned off metacity will upgrading the processcer help
[01:40] <ab2qik> DasEi,  tryed the recovery option,
[01:40] <paco_the_taco> omg thank you you!!!
[01:40] <paco_the_taco> CavalierPrime:  its downloading, once i run this, do i gotta update it?
[01:41] <joshua__> what are you downloading?
[01:41] <ricky21tom> bobertdos: hey i have installed the partimage from synaptic manager
[01:41] <ab2qik> DasEi, should i not try the recoery option from the menu?
[01:41] <paco_the_taco> clam
[01:41] <paco_the_taco> clam av
[01:41] <zen-tao> Flannel: homebrewcider: nice link, thanks...
[01:41] <joshua__> oh...
[01:41] <ab2qik> DasEi, or just use alt cd
[01:41] <CavalierPrime> you can update it from the command line per the tutorial
[01:41] <paco_the_taco> yes, he promised it would remove the dirty porno off my desktop
[01:41] <DasEi> ab2qik:I thought you booted the live cd to fix /var
[01:41] <scott_ino> Guest13718, should be installed by default
[01:41] <scott_ino> Guest13718, how have you tested your cam
[01:41] <Guest13718> should it work in cheese?
[01:42] <paco_the_taco> if it doesnt, im going to take out my hdd, and poop on it
[01:42] <DasEi> ab2qik:alternate cd has no desktop
[01:42] <Guest13718> i plugged it into my usb port, and opened cheese
[01:42] <joshua__> so... paco_the_taco there are like 3 known virii for linux and you mnaged to pick one up?
[01:42] <Guest13718> and it said no camera detected
[01:42] <DasEi> .. but repair function, so..
[01:42] <ab2qik> DasEi,  no i got into shell and copied files to /var
[01:42] <ricky21tom> bobertdos: hey are you there
[01:42] <paco_the_taco> joshua__:  i was just on youtube :(
[01:42] <paco_the_taco> and myspace
[01:42] <joshua__> paco_the_taco, so....
[01:42] <bobertdos> ricky21tom: yeah, sorry, doing a pastebin
[01:42] <paco_the_taco> but my friend said ubuntu no get virus :((
[01:43] <joshua__> paco_the_taco, are you running as root?
[01:43] <paco_the_taco> im crying right now\
[01:43] <paco_the_taco> no...
[01:43] <joshua__> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:43] <ricky21tom> bobertdos: so you are busy now
[01:43] <paco_the_taco> 9.0.4
[01:43] <switchgirl> anyone have a copy of win4lin?
[01:43] <DasEi> ab2qik: so no way for me to follow what has happened there, is why I wanted to have you on live to get an overview, nvm
[01:43] <paco_the_taco> switchgirl:  i think its on google
[01:43] <ab2qik> DasEi, i understand the live cd does not support lvm. If  use it  i think the lvm structure will be lost.
[01:44] <paco_the_taco> google, how to make ubuntu look like osx
[01:44] <linxeh> heh
[01:44] <paco_the_taco> then google how to remove these stupid ads :(
[01:44] <joshua__> well the only sure fire way to get rid of it is to backup your home directory and and reinstall ubuntu
[01:44] <paco_the_taco> ;O
[01:44] <DasEi> ab2qik: no and no, the live itself won't alter hd until you or we do it
[01:44] <paco_the_taco> i dont wanna loose all my music!!
[01:44] <scott_ino> Guest13718, seems to be more webcam specific give me a sec
[01:44] <bobertdos> mrpockets: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283414/
[01:44] <joshua__> paco_the_taco, back it up
[01:44] <Guest13718> ok scott_ino
[01:44] <Guest13718> thanks
[01:44] <paco_the_taco> how?
[01:44] <bobertdos> ricky21tom: okay, I'm here if you still are
[01:45] <joshua__> i want to see a screen shot...
[01:45] <mrpockets> got it
[01:45] <mrpockets> thanks tho
[01:45] <ami_> can anyone help me install zlib properly
[01:45] <joshua__> no wait no i dont
[01:45] <paco_the_taco> im on the windows machine, theres just too many ads popping up
[01:45] <ab2qik> DasEi, i can use the alt cd which has lvm support
[01:45] <paco_the_taco> it says theres like 80 windows open
[01:45] <ami_> i am trying to install ruby gems and it fails on no such file zlib
[01:45] <joshua__> i don't know paco_the_taco burn it to a cd or something
[01:45] <ricky21tom> bobertdos: yes i am here
[01:45] <joshua__> wait...
[01:45] <joshua__> ubuntu is infected or windows?
[01:45] <Pici> paco_the_taco: We don't support Windows here, if you need help with that you need to /join ##windows
[01:45] <ricky21tom> bobertdos: i have installed partimage
[01:45] <Jason2gs> I can't view  certain files and folders in my home folder. I know the files and folders are there. I can access them through nautilus (either by punching the path in through nautilus, or by running 'nautilus pathname' in the terminal. The files and folders are also listed via 'ls'. I just can't view them in my home folder, it seems.
[01:45] <paco_the_taco> no Pici, i need help with ubuntu
[01:45] <ricky21tom> bobertdos: now to use it
[01:45] <switchgirl> paco_the_taco, google win4lin its about running programmes not looks
[01:46] <ami_> im using slicehost with 9.0.4 jaunty
[01:46] <paco_the_taco> i was saying right now im on my windows machine, and my ubuntu machine is infected
[01:46] <joshua__> oh...
[01:46] <MenZa> paco_the_taco: Infected with what, exactly?
[01:46] <joshua__> MenZa, swine flu
[01:46] <scott_ino> Guest13718, take a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=381188
[01:46] <DasEi> trooljenta?
[01:46] <paco_the_taco> its just popping up randomly with ads like, date now! porn here!, enter credit card number now!,
[01:46] <zen-tao> paco_the_taco = troll
[01:46] <paco_the_taco> and its telling me to register ubuntu, and i thought this was free and open source ^_^
[01:47] <paco_the_taco> no im not a troll...
[01:47] <joshua__> paco_the_taco, maybe you should enter your CC and see if they go away...along with all your money
[01:47] <DasEi> paco_the_taco: that might happen in your browser, but not in your os
[01:47] <zen-tao> paco_the_taco: You are either a troll, or a moron. But most likely you are both :(
[01:47] <paco_the_taco> joshua__:  ok i took a pic
[01:47] <paco_the_taco> may i pm you a link?
[01:47] <ricky21tom> can any body knows how to run wmv file in window
[01:47] <paco_the_taco> im a moron zen-tao.
[01:47] <joshua__> sure
[01:47] <paco_the_taco> not a troll
[01:47] <ricky21tom> ubuntu
[01:47] <bobertdos> !medibuntu | ricky21tom
[01:48] <ervis0x> hello.  i've just install ubuntu 9.04 and updates don't work, (openoffice packages). Has anyone the same problem?
[01:48] <homebrewcider> zen-tao, I feared that was the issue, flannel, checking now thanks
[01:48] <scott_ino> Guest13718, have you only tried your cam with cheese??
[01:48] <Guest13718> yes
[01:48]  * joshua__ is waiting for the link
[01:48] <Guest13718> and skype doesnt see it
[01:48] <ricky21tom> bobertdos: hey what is that
[01:48] <paco_the_taco> i pm'd you it
[01:48] <Guest13718> my computer does though
[01:48] <Guest13718> under audio settings it sees usb camera
[01:48] <joshua__> i never got it
[01:48] <paco_the_taco> grr
[01:48] <paco_the_taco> pm me real quick, this list is massive
[01:49] <zen-tao> ervis0x: Just ran in update for OOo a few minutes ago - worked fine for me...
[01:49] <bobertdos> ricky21tom:  It's a repository containing very restricted software. One of the things it contains is a package with the windows media codecs in it.
[01:49] <blakamin> paco_the_taco, just put the link in here so we can all see it (andflaugh)
[01:49] <ervis0x> i don't understand all programs that download packages from ubuntu servers works fine except openoffice's packages..
[01:50] <Trizicus> in emerald how do i go back to default theme
[01:50] <scott_ino> Guest13718, everything im reading says that this camera works out of the box
[01:50] <Guest13718> thats weird then
[01:51] <paco_the_taco> well, it has my desktop photo (my g/f) so i dont want you seeing
[01:51] <scott_ino> Guest13718, can you open a terminal and send me the lsusb output?
[01:51] <paco_the_taco> and i only want the person i trust on here too see it
[01:51] <Guest13718> sure
[01:51] <blakamin> pfft
[01:51] <bobertdos> ricky21tom: Anyway, turning my attention now to partimage........
[01:51] <bobertdos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging
[01:51] <scott_ino> type lsusb and paste that to me in a private message
[01:51] <Trizicus> in emerald how do i go back to default theme
[01:51] <Guest13718> scott_ino: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:00f5 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam VX-3000.
[01:51] <scott_ino> k that works
[01:51] <scott_ino> let me check by device ID
[01:51] <Guest13718> yay
[01:52] <Guest13718> alright
[01:52] <eric1> help, please, on video problem with Acer Aspire 3000 and 9.04
[01:52] <hanshenrik> ##php is forwarding me to ##overflow, so i guess i can ask here.. the php-code	if (!empty($info)) file_put_contents('status.xml',$info);    gives "Warning: file_put_contents(status.xml) [function.file-put-contents]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /var/www/status.php on line 31" so.. what should i chmod status.php to?
[01:52] <Trizicus> in emerald how do i go back to default theme
[01:53] <hanshenrik> status.xml*
[01:53] <bobertdos> ricky21tom: Like Scott said before, it's not for making DVD's, but rather for creating hard drive images and transferring them to a medium in archived format. It wouldn't be bootable of course, but you could make a drive image, burn it or save it to a flash drive and then restore it with partimage.
[01:53] <joshua__> I declare paco_the_taco is a troll
[01:53] <Guest13718> why so joshua__?
[01:53] <blakamin> seconded
[01:53] <paco_the_taco> ...
[01:53] <Flannel> hanshenrik: I has to be writable by the webserver, so www-data needs to be able to write somehow
[01:53] <paco_the_taco> thats what shows on my ubuntu machine joshua..
[01:53] <DasEi> joshua__: /ignore, agreed
[01:53] <paco_the_taco> its in fullscreen mode
[01:53] <Flannel> hanshenrik: You'll likely chown /var/www to www-data:www-data
[01:53] <joshua__> your that is disgusting...
[01:54] <scott_ino> Guest13718, Ahh see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1034988
[01:54] <paco_the_taco> how am i digusting? that appeared on my ubuntu machine when i turned it on, and it went into full screen mode ^_^
[01:54] <ervis0x> and something else has anyone problem with nvidia.180 drivers? 173 works fine but 180 i have some problems with compiz. if i use 173 i lose something? like efficiency?
[01:54] <ervis0x> sorry for my english...
[01:54] <paco_the_taco> well, are you going to help me?
[01:54] <zen-tao> ervis0x: 180 works fine for my 9600gt
[01:55] <paco_the_taco> it wasn't my fault, all i did was surf the web..
[01:55] <hanshenrik> Flannel: umm.. chown what?
[01:55] <ricky21tom> bobertdos: not an issue with that just teach me how to use it
[01:55] <nineclock>  hi,i want that my vpn client have static ip address (client 1=10.0.0.2 client2=10.0.0.3 ..etc) without dns for surf on internet some ideas ?
[01:55] <Flannel> hanshenrik: chown www-data:www-data /var/www
[01:55] <scott_ino> Guest13718, unfortunately i must be on my way... hope that steers you in the right direction
[01:55] <paco_the_taco> wow..
[01:55] <paco_the_taco> this support sucks :(
[01:55] <ctmjr> sadrolla: you still here
[01:56] <paco_the_taco> microsoft (fail), could of helped me removed this ^)_^
[01:56] <ervis0x> i have 2 8600 gt and i don't understnad why my monitor freezing
[01:56] <bobertdos> ricky21tom: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging
[01:56] <bastidrazor> paco_the_taco: you seem to be less than honest.
[01:57] <chrizthop> hello there
[01:57] <Guest13718> scott_ino:  the download links are broken when downloading it
[01:57] <Guest13718> http://sonix.sourceforge.net/
[01:57] <Guest13718> there
[01:57] <zen-tao> Flannel: thanks for that...
[01:58] <bobertdos> ricky21tom:  It's a commandline utility, so it must be run from the terminal. Basically, you can choose to create your archive using tar gzip files or bz2 if you want them to be more compressed. To specify where you want an image saved, you have to type in the full Unix path to the archive you want to make. Otherwise, you can just specify a file name, and it will save to the current working directory of the terminal.
[01:58] <sadrolla> ctmjr: i Carefree web cam use on ubuntu =((
[01:58] <hanshenrik> Flannel: still same error.. should i try restart apache?
[01:59] <sadrolla> ctmjr: i  am now into Thistle
[01:59] <Flannel> hanshenrik: You shouldn't have to.  Also, if you identify your nick, you'll be able to get into ##php
[01:59] <ctmjr> sadrolla: i compiled it and did make install no sudo and it worked just run make install
[01:59] <hanshenrik> Flannel: i did, just cant remember the pass xD
[01:59] <ricky21tom> bobertdos: hey ‎it is very complicated
[02:00] <chrizthop> how to install webcam in ubuntu :(
[02:00] <joshua__> did you ban paco?
[02:00] <joshua__> Flannel, ?
[02:00] <Kniht> how do I move a file to the gnome trash in a shell? is it as easy as mv some_file ~/.Trash/?
[02:01] <sadrolla> ctmjr: plz send me archive file that link your download
[02:01] <chrizthop> how to install webcam in ubuntu help please :(
[02:01] <zen-tao> !patience | chrizthop
[02:01] <joshua__> depends on the webcam chrizthop
[02:02] <chrizthop> hmm thanks ubottu
[02:02] <joshua__> can anyone see me?
[02:02] <soreau> nope
[02:02] <zen-tao> joshua__: eh?
[02:02] <losher> joshua__: loud and clear...
[02:02] <joshua__> zen-tao, thought i was having connection issues...
[02:02] <DasEi> joshua__: sure
[02:03] <ctmjr> sadrolla: http://www.linux-projects.org/modules/mydownloads/  you want this one SN9C10x Driver (1)
[02:03] <chrizthop> joshua__ depends on the webcam chrizthop ?? hmm do you know how?
[02:03] <losher> joshua__: next time, try the /ping command to see if you're still connected e.g. /ping losher
[02:04] <Prohibited> 0.78 seconds to ping myself
[02:04] <joshua__> what is the webcam i am sure if you google the model number along with something like "installing (webcam model) on ubuntu
[02:04] <losher> Prohibited: I'm not sure pinging yourself proves you're connected...
[02:05] <ctmjr> !webcams
[02:05] <bobertdos> Kniht: Yeah, I don't see any reason why not, except the path to the trash is a little different now
[02:05] <bobertdos> !trash | Kniht
[02:05] <chrizthop> can i use webcam in pidgin while chatiing in Yahoo??
[02:06] <joshua__> chrizthop, i think so
[02:07] <chrizthop> can you help me joshua_
[02:07] <sadrolla> ctmjr: but http://fpaste.org/dxcz/
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> chrizthop, no you can't.. pidgin doesn't support video chat.
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> !gyachi | chrizthop
[02:08] <joshua__> chrizthop, I don't have a webcam i helped you as much as i can
[02:08] <ctmjr> sadrolla: ok do make install
[02:08] <chrizthop> IndyGunFreak hmm what is the program that can support webcam?
[02:09] <chrizthop> with that program can i chat in yahoo??
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> chrizthop, i think its called gyachi... lemme look.
[02:09] <Kniht> bobertdos: thanks, though I found gvfs-trash which looks to do what I want, seems to be undocumented though?
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> chrizthop, i think so, i've never used it...  http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/
[02:10] <swtaarrs> when I try to have multiple rows of virtual desktops, both metacity and compiz won't let me (in jaunty), is this a known bug or is there a workaround?
[02:10] <sadrolla> ctmjr: but http://fpaste.org/ENRw/
[02:10] <chrizthop> IndyGunFreak thanks
[02:10] <William-Gentoo> morning
[02:11] <zen-tao> !hi | William-Gentoo
[02:11] <diya> Assalamualaikum
[02:11] <William-Gentoo> i want to learn about shell script , where can i find some help title?
[02:11] <ctmjr> sadrolla: ok you did not get errors in make install now sudo modprobe compat_ioctl32
[02:12] <soreau> swtaarrs: With compiz, use Super+E (super = windoze key)
[02:12] <Pici> William-Gentoo: #bash is a great resource
[02:12] <zen-tao> William-Gentoo: man bash
[02:12] <bobertdos> Kniht: It would appear so, bummer.
[02:12] <William-Gentoo> thanks
[02:12] <swtaarrs> soreau: no, the problem is that it will only let me have one row of desktops configured, this has nothing to do with viewing all of them at once
[02:13] <joeb3_> William-Gentoo, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[02:13] <soreau> swtaarrs: I don't understand what you mean then
[02:14] <swtaarrs> soreau: I want to have 4 virtual desktops set up in a 2x2 square but it will only let me have a 4x1 line of desktops
[02:14] <swtaarrs> this used to work fine in the past
[02:14] <joshua__> I know this might sound like a crazy question
[02:14] <sadrolla> so http://fpaste.org/ryWz/
[02:14] <hoonteke> Anyone know why the torrent for beta is "not authorized to use this tracker?"
[02:14] <joshua__> but is there any way to sync my windows mobile phone with ubuntu?
[02:15] <zen-tao> joshua__: It's not that crazy - I was wondering the same thing myself earlier today!
[02:15] <soreau> swtaarrs: Compiz uses viewports, not desktops. For the cube, you should always set in !ccsm > General Options > Desktop Size: "Number of desktops" to 1, "Vertical virtual size" to 1, and "Horizontal virtual size" to the number of sides you want on the cube. For the wall plugin, you can change "Vertical virtual size" as well.
[02:15] <blakamin> joshua__, when you find one that works properly, let me know
[02:15] <joshua__> Yeah i have to have it for work...
[02:15] <swtaarrs> soreau: I know I've tried that and it doesn't work
[02:15] <swtaarrs> soreau: it also doesn't work with metacity
[02:15] <Mear> Hey, anyone here use texlive? :)
[02:16] <ctmjr> sadrolla: run this sudo modprobe sn9c102
[02:16] <soreau> swtaarrs: CCSM is the CompizConfig Settings Manager. It's only for compiz, not metacity
[02:16] <chrizthop> what command to know your firefox version?
[02:16] <soreau> ! work | swtaarrs
[02:16] <zen-tao> chrizthop: help > about
[02:16] <sadrolla> ctmjr: next ?
[02:16] <Mear> Or, more to the point, does anyone know how to get rid of Texlive 2009..?
[02:16] <swtaarrs> soreau: yes, what I'm trying to say is that no matter which settings I try for metacity or compiz it only shows one row of desktops
[02:17] <Jihui_Choi> Is anyone who has the list of upstream projects of ubuntu launchpad translation?
[02:17] <Jihui_Choi> SUch as OOo, FF, gnome, kde.
[02:17] <soreau> swtaarrs: Well if you want help with compiz, come to #compiz. For metacity, I have no idea
[02:17] <ctmjr> sadrolla: dmesg | grep SN9
[02:17] <Pici> Jihui_Choi: #ubuntu-translators would be a good place to start
[02:17] <Mear> /j #latex
[02:17] <Jihui_Choi> Pici: oh.. thank you :)
[02:18] <Out_Cold> latex lol
[02:18] <hoonteke> swtaarrs: the only way I've been able to get more than one row is to use the workspace switcher applet in the lower right
[02:18] <hoonteke> right-click and select preferences.
[02:18] <Mear> yeah, giggle giggle :P
[02:18] <swtaarrs> hoonteke: yeah that's not working either :-/
[02:18] <swtaarrs> it's what I usually use
[02:18] <raeldenk> Mear,  /j ? not /join
[02:18] <sadrolla> ctmjr: http://fpaste.org/9JEs/
[02:18] <hoonteke> swtaarrs: got nothing then.  you using beta?
[02:18] <hoonteke> is it a bug?
[02:18] <Mear> yeah, I figured. :)
[02:18] <swtaarrs> hoonteke: I'm using jaunty, with all the latest updates
[02:19] <swtaarrs> I assume it's a bug, I'll try restarting gnome and see if that helps
[02:19] <zen-tao> raeldenk: /j is an alias for /join in irssi
[02:19] <hoonteke> swtaarrs: hmm, wonder if you've messed something up wiht your install?  Works just grand here
[02:19] <ctmjr> sadrolla: getting closer now do you have mplayer installed?
[02:19] <raeldenk> zen-tao, ok
[02:19] <hoonteke> (which isn't a condolence, I understand.)
[02:19] <swtaarrs> hoonteke: heh, yeah it used to work, might've been an update
[02:19] <hoonteke> anyone?  bittorrent of beta not working?  anyone know why?
[02:19] <raeldenk> zen-tao, yeah it works cool thx
[02:20] <raeldenk> ;)
[02:20] <sadrolla> yes mplayer from repo medibuntu is installed
[02:20] <Pici> hoonteke : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[02:20] <Jack_> Hi, any idea how to load qla22xx drivers so that ubuntu could be installed to a drive attached to this hba?
[02:20] <hoonteke> Pici: ah, thanks
[02:20] <poony> Any  ideas why my sound on ubuntu does not work?
[02:20] <ctmjr> sadrolla: do you have a tv tuner card installed?
[02:20] <Mear> Ok.... Anyone have any idea how to get rid of a program not in the repositories when the install script has no uninstall function?
[02:21] <sadrolla> ctmjr: no i not use tv ard
[02:21] <sadrolla> ctmjr: my webcam is now installed ?
[02:21] <Ineedhelp> hello i need some help with some homework please
[02:22] <Ineedhelp> can someone help me out with some questions?
[02:22] <fwaokda> is there a way once I run a program I've created in terminal that I can output the contents of the program to a txt file? (Realize I could copy/paste it just wondering if there is a cmd to make it easier and quicker)
[02:22] <zen-tao> !ask | Ineedhelp
[02:22] <ChogyDan> Mear: you may have to ask the developers of said program
[02:22] <Mear> I'm sensing this is gonna be one of those "fuck, Ill just reinstall ubuntu"-cases..
[02:22] <sebsebseb> !language |  Mear
[02:22] <Mear> I guess I may
[02:22] <Mear> sorry :/
[02:22] <chu_> Hey guys, I broke my wireless last night, and I don't know what I did :/
[02:22] <Ineedhelp> In between the CPU and main memory is _______, a high-speed holding area.
[02:23] <ChogyDan> fwaokda: program > text_file    its called redirection
[02:23] <fwaokda> thanks :)
[02:23] <Out_Cold> chu_, duct tape fixes that
[02:23] <zen-tao> Ineedhelp: cache
[02:23] <fwaokda> ChogyDan, thanks :)
[02:23] <ChogyDan> yw
[02:23] <Pici> Ineedhelp: This is not a homework help channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for other chat, but you probably wont get help their either.
[02:24] <Out_Cold> Ineedhelp, try google.. you are more likely to find your answers there
[02:24] <BTREE> HFS+ is better than all linux filesystems there it ends there
[02:25] <BTREE> HFS+ is better than all linux filesystems there it ends there
[02:25] <Out_Cold> shut up..
[02:25] <fwaokda> ChogyDan, is there any way that it will output to terminal and the file both? Because it requests info from the user...
[02:25] <Jack_> Anybody familiar with hba under linux?
[02:25] <ctmjr> sadrolla: try this cat /dev/video0
[02:26] <Out_Cold> chu_, go to terminal and type sudo iwconfig
[02:26] <poony> anyone know how to fix my sound? i seem to be getting no sound whats so ever
[02:26] <ChogyDan> fwaokda: can you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:26] <BTREE> HFS+ supports file tagging in filesystem
[02:26] <fwaokda> ChogyDan, ok thanks
[02:26] <BTREE> As of now no other file system in linux does i believe
[02:27] <Out_Cold> poony, go to terminal and check out alsamixer
[02:27] <ChogyDan> BTREE: this is a support room, thanks
[02:27] <BTREE> so...
[02:27] <losher> !sound | poony -- start here
[02:27] <sadrolla> ctmjr: i reboot system and nothing
[02:27] <William-Gentoo> how can i make my vi tab=4character
[02:28] <chu_> Yikes, I can't find my wireless .inf driver!
[02:28] <BTREE> HFS+ uses one Bitmap in the filesystem not hundreds of them
[02:28] <Out_Cold> !offtopic > BTREE
[02:28] <BTREE> thats not offtopic
[02:28] <ctmjr> sadrolla: you should not have reboot now you have to load the drivr again  sudo modprobe sn9c102
[02:29] <theblue> Hi all.
[02:29] <zen-tao> !hi | theblue
[02:29] <theblue> i'm trying to create a dvd from some video in jaunty, what's the simplest program to use?
[02:29] <BTREE> THE BOTTOM LINE LINUX SUCKS AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE BECAUSE BTREE SAID SO
[02:29] <musikgoat1> !troll | BTREE
[02:29] <Out_Cold> stop trolling you loser
[02:29] <BTREE> BAN ME
[02:30] <Out_Cold> he asked for it..
[02:30] <BTREE> BAN ME PICI
[02:30] <William-Gentoo> how can i make my vi one tab=four characters
[02:30] <joshua__> who was i talking to about windows mobile earlier?
[02:30] <BTREE> BAN ME PICI
[02:30] <hoonteke> BTREE: what's the best operating system?
[02:30] <sadrolla> ctmjr: nothing output =((
[02:30] <BTREE> IPHONE OS
[02:30] <chu_> lol
[02:30] <musikgoat1> oh thats lame
[02:30] <shawn_> BTREE: You need a goal
[02:30] <BTREE> BAN ME
[02:30] <shawn_> BTREE In life
[02:30] <zen-tao> hoonteke: Please don't encorage him.
[02:30] <BTREE> BAN ME
[02:31] <hoonteke> probably 14 or 15.
[02:31] <theblue> probably not his nick, either.
[02:31] <hoonteke> point.
[02:31] <chu_> No, that's too generous, probably 12
[02:31] <hoonteke> meh, not worried about it
[02:31] <hoonteke> I was there once
[02:31] <musikgoat1> i like that he thought the iphone was an os
[02:31] <hoonteke> :-)
[02:31] <Pici> Sorry folks, my aliases a bit broken.
[02:31] <joshua__> musikgoat1, technically it is...
[02:32] <shawn_> Well the iphone is an OS..
[02:32] <Out_Cold> Pici, regular syntax never hurts ;)
[02:32] <hoonteke> so how long does that ban last?
[02:32] <Out_Cold> for ever!!
[02:32] <joshua__> iphone is a platform that the os runs on
[02:32] <musikgoat1> joshua__: really? its not just hacked up osx
[02:32] <musikgoat1> ?
[02:32] <hoonteke> no, I'm pretty sure that iphone use a lite version of os x
[02:32] <shawn_> Pici how was operator status set on you like that?
[02:32] <sagaci> !ot
[02:32] <musikgoat1> eh, its offtopic
[02:32] <ctmjr> sadrolla: that is a good sign now ls /dev/video0
[02:32] <joshua__> isn't that all ubuntu is? a hacked up version of debian?
[02:32] <chu_> Indeed.
[02:32] <chu_> Someone want to help me get m wireless working (again)? >.> :p
[02:33] <pfifo> pleas help, i am in desprate need of help, my display resolution is set at 640x480 and will not go any higher, i tired bot nvidia 180 and am currently usin 173 on ubuntu 9.04
[02:33] <Out_Cold> ubuntu is bleeding edge... kinda lol
[02:33] <hoonteke> chu_: if you don't have success here, you might go through a process on answers.launchpad.net
[02:33] <sadrolla> ctmjr: No such file or directory
[02:33] <arand> joshua__: "Hacked up" in the positive sense I guess...
[02:33] <chu_> I had it working, I did something last night that has broken it though
[02:33] <hoonteke> chu_: it's a little less ... transient ... than IRC, and also may help a googler or two.
[02:34] <hoonteke> alright, I'm out.  cheers.
[02:34] <theblue> no one burns video dvds in here?
[02:34] <ctmjr> sadrolla: ok unplug the card and plug back in
[02:34] <pfifo> anyone?
[02:34] <bastid_raZor> theblue: please ask the real question with as mcuh detail in one line.
[02:34] <Out_Cold> theblue, check out dvdrip
[02:35] <sadrolla> ctmjr: now , i what do ?
[02:35] <Out_Cold> you need dvd plugins also
[02:35] <sadrolla> ctmjr: now , what i do ?
[02:35] <ctmjr> sadrolla: do ls /dev/video0 again
[02:36] <sadrolla> ctmjr: ls: cannot access /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[02:36] <arand> bastid_raZor: he did ↑↑
[02:36] <ctmjr> sadrolla: try ls /dev/video0
[02:36] <ctmjr> sadrolla: try ls /dev/video1
[02:37] <sadrolla> ctmjr: http://fpaste.org/cVaG/
[02:39] <eido> if i already have slackware and xp on a pc using lilo what is the best way to put ubuntu on?
[02:40] <n8tuser> eido -> have another partition and add entries on your lilo for the ubuntu portion
[02:41] <eido> n8tuser: will it put grub on?
[02:41] <n8tuser> eido -> you can choose not to put it on
[02:42] <Jihui_Choi> I want to merge some files in several directories like this ./a/b/c.txt  ./e/f.txt  How can I do?
[02:42] <Roasted> anybody use cairo dock? I downloaded it yet, I somehow... cant find it?
[02:42] <ctmjr> sadrolla: try this am all out of idea's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyCam
[02:42] <raeldenk> there is an error on ubuntu.com they have to fix it soon, have wrote "feeback" and note "feedback"
[02:43] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: as in you can't find the deb or how to run it while installed via apt-get/synaptic
[02:43] <raeldenk> *not
[02:43] <Roasted> bastid - I installed it in synaptic. It's just... where is it? How do I launch it?
[02:43] <poony> anyone know how to fix my sound on my cmputer
[02:43] <joshua__> what are you trying to launch?
[02:43] <poony> anything, movie, youtube etc
[02:43] <Roasted> cairo dock
[02:43] <poony> my sound doesnt work.
[02:44] <joshua__> oh,,,
[02:44] <joshua__> don';t know anything about it
[02:44] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: normally it is listed under System Tools.. you can also launch it via command line by typing cairo-dock &disown   .so that it isn't stuck to  your terminal
[02:44] <ctmjr> Roasted: there is an #cairo-dock channel for help
[02:44] <Roasted> yeahhhhhhh it aint under system tools
[02:45] <Roasted> and theres like 10 people in the cairo dock channel
[02:45] <joshua__> i prefer gnome-do
[02:45] <joshua__> Roasted, i am installing it right now, will let you know in a second
[02:45] <Roasted> thanks dood
[02:45] <sadrolla> ctmjr: tanks my dear i now very very huffy , i think is better that i go sleep
[02:46] <ctmjr> Roasted: well mine is under system tools
[02:46] <Roasted> mine isnt :(
[02:46] <ctmjr> sadrolla: ok good night
[02:46] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: sometimes the menu isn't updated for a bit. possibly log out then back in.
[02:46] <joshua__> did you install it via synaptic?
[02:46] <Rashko> hi all
[02:46] <Roasted> bastid - is cairo-dock the one with the widgets?
[02:46] <Roasted> thats what my goal is to start messing with desktop widgets
[02:46] <Rashko> I need help please
[02:47] <ctmjr> Roasted: do like bastid_raZor and try it from a terminal
[02:47] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: it has lots of things including widgets of sorts.
[02:47] <joshua__> okay i didn't think it would be that long but it is taking forever to install
[02:47] <Rashko> ubuntu 8.04 problem with serialports
[02:47] <Roasted> ctmjr - I did run it from terminal, but I didnt see anything about widgets. Just theme/save/close
[02:47] <chu_> I just did some updating... Let's hope I return. lol
[02:48] <joshua__> chu_ what did you update?
[02:48] <bobertdos> poony:  In your volume control, what does it list and what do you have selected for Device?
[02:48] <FiReSTaRT> hey guys.. i'm putting ubuntu on a really ram-challenged machine (only 256).. could you recommend a lightweight browser that'll still do java and flash and preferably do tabbed as well?
[02:48] <Rashko> I need to enable multi serialport on pci card
[02:48] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: probably the best way to enjoy cairo-dock is to get the latest .deb as version 2.X is far better than the 1.6 versino in synaptic
[02:49] <dethaddr> DasEi: you rooocccckkkk
[02:49] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: i have a link for the .debs if you wish.
[02:49] <Roasted> sure thing
[02:50] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724  get the cairo-dock and the plugins.. install the dock first then plugins
[02:50] <DasEi> dethaddr: thanks for that, but to be honest I have a quite bad day today, nvm and good to hear
[02:50] <losher> FiReSTaRT: I think you might be better of running a lightweight distro designed for a small machine, and then run firefox inside it. E.g. puppylinux, damn small linux, google for 'lightweight distros'...
[02:50] <joshua__> FiReSTaRT, check out arora
[02:50] <dethaddr> DasEi: thanks for your patients
[02:50] <chu_> Well, I have returned, alas... No wireless still.
[02:50] <Rashko> please help
[02:51] <DasEi> dethaddr: np, dizzy anyway as I said XD
[02:51] <ab2qik> DasEi, i have pasted to pastebin. Its a new install
[02:51] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: uninstall the cairo-dock you install via synaptic before using the newer .debs
[02:51] <FiReSTaRT> losher: i'm familiar with ubuntu, so i'll compromise and run xubuntu on it, therefore, firefox would eat it alive
[02:51] <bobertdos> FiReSTaRT: I really like Puppy actually. If you still wanted to try Ubuntu though, maybe Xubuntu would help....?
[02:51] <Roasted> bastid - already uninstalled it
[02:51] <FiReSTaRT> joshua__: i'll look it up thanks :)
[02:51] <Roasted> bastid - if Im running 9.04 64 bit, am I grabbing hardy 64, i686, or what?
[02:51] <ab2qik> DasEi, sending url, a moment pls.
[02:51] <FiReSTaRT> btw this will be my 2nd convert of the week lol
[02:51] <joshua__> I don't remember if it does flash and java
[02:51] <joshua__> but it is in the repos
[02:52] <losher> FiReSTaRT: fair enough. Just as long as you know you have other options which may work better.
[02:52] <joshua__> sudo apt-get arora
[02:52] <shadowhywind> hay all, didn't get a response in kubuntu, so thought I would ask here. I am trying to add a superkaramba widget in plasma. works fine in superkaramba, but wont show up in the list in plasma, any ideas
[02:52] <eido> n8tuser: how do you choose not to install grub in  the live cd install
[02:52] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: Roasted get the _x86_64.deb's
[02:52] <Rashko> please help with serial pci card enable multiport ubuntu 8.04
[02:52] <ab2qik> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/m7adef9ff      and     http://pastebin.com/m1a218eb4
[02:52] <William-Gentoo> i find the answer echo "set ts=4" >> /etc/vim/vimrc
[02:52] <FiReSTaRT> losher: i probably would have run dsl, but since i only have significant experience with ubuntu and wanna make sure that the machine is properly set up by tomorrow evening....... :P
[02:53] <FiReSTaRT> losher: already ran it with a portable setup :)
[02:53] <Pricey> eido: the last page before formatting has an 'advanced' button i believe
[02:53] <perry_> Can someone help me with a sound card issue,  aplay -l gives Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog]
[02:53] <ab2qik> DasEi, pls have a look. I have not mounted lvm points. New install
[02:53] <joshua__> Roasted, where you the one looking for help with cairo?
[02:54] <Roasted> joshua - I was trying to launch it cause it didnt come up in my menu, but Im installing the newer deb now instead of the older synaptic version
[02:54] <FiReSTaRT> joshua__: it looks like it can be downloaded via synaptic :D
[02:54] <eido> Pricey: thats after the advanced partitioning part right?
[02:54] <joshua__> FiReSTaRT, yes i said that
[02:54] <Roasted> bastid - yeah it came up in system tools now
[02:54] <Roasted> bastid - thanks brosef
[02:54] <Pricey> eido: not completely sure
[02:55] <dethaddr> DasEi: i have a new question.
[02:55] <joshua__> Roasted, look in your accessories in your application menu
[02:55] <dethaddr> DasEi: and this should be much easier
[02:55] <FiReSTaRT> joshua__: i must have missed it.. ok time to start burning and also hook up the peripherials to the machine.. thanks for the help :)
[02:55] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: cool, try out some of the themes.. also you can mix match icons/themes and create your own. good luck
[02:55] <Roasted> ew. I hate this dock. lol
[02:55] <FiReSTaRT> also thanks losher and bobertdos :)
[02:55] <eido> Pricey: yep i found it thanks
[02:55] <dethaddr> DasEi: im trying to figure out how to install some themes
[02:56] <joshua__> FiReSTaRT, good luck
[02:56] <tkmr> dethaddr: Are you having problems?
[02:56] <joshua__> cairo is pretty cool...
[02:56] <DasEi> !themes | dethaddr
[02:56] <perry_> Does anyone know what alsa driver "Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0be2 (rev a1)" uses?
[02:56] <Roasted> I hate mac. As a result, I hate the mac dock. I just wanted to mess with widgets, and that dock looks effing weird. Plus on my dual screen PC its positioned really weird.
[02:57] <dethaddr> tkmr: i just dont know how to do it
[02:57] <DasEi> ab2qik: and want to you want to achieve now ?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  the only 'dock'  i can stand to use is the Gnome-do docky  theme/dock
[02:57] <joshua__> mac is okay as long as i don't have to use it
[02:58] <tkmr> dethaddr: Generally you can just drag the .tar.gz into the Themes tab in the appearance control panel thing.
[02:58] <ab2qik> DasEi, to have lvm devices mounted so as to replace /var, /usr, /tmp etc..
[02:58] <DasEi> !changethemes > dethaddr
[02:59] <DasEi> ab2qik: and this is now a fresh, working install ?
[02:59] <ab2qik> DasEi, absolutely
[03:00] <ab2qik> DasEi,  did you see df -h and /etc/fstab
[03:00] <DasEi> ab2qik: so you got to create the lvm's first and mount them somewhere
[03:00] <bastid_raZor> !gdesklets | Roasted ..might be more fo what yo'ure looking for.
[03:00] <DasEi> ab2qik: yes, saw
[03:00] <gonzojive_> I have my authorized_keys file set up to accept my public key, but for some reason i am still being prompted for a password when i try to ssh
[03:00] <gonzojive_> how can i debug this ssh problem?
[03:00] <perry_> Can someone please help me with a sound problem, I am at a dead end.  Linux detects my sound card but is not loading the module for it for some reason, I am not sure if there is no driver for the card yet or if its another problem
[03:01] <fancy> [p]p
[03:01] <ab2qik> DasEi,  lvms already created. need to mount and replace current mounts as mentioned
[03:01] <root____> can anyone tell me how to upgrade
[03:01] <DasEi> ab2qik: is there a reason to use lvm ? if you just want to extend, why not use just a regular (extended) partition ?
[03:01] <chu_> *crying* Wireless is the worst.
[03:01] <root____> HOW DO YOU UPGRADE LINUX
[03:01] <Flannel> !upgrade | root____
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> !apt | root____
[03:02] <ab2qik> DasEi,  lvm gives max flexibility. Nothing else compares
[03:02] <andruk> gnee isn't working.  its complaining about a "RECORD extension "
[03:03] <DasEi> ab2qik: k, then please paste also : sudo apt-get install pastebinit, then...
[03:04] <ab2qik> DasEi,  ok will have to boot out of vista to do so. Anything else needed?
[03:04] <fancy> ......
[03:04] <DasEi> ab2qik:sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[03:04] <chu_> Gah!
[03:04] <DasEi> ab2qik:mount | pastebinit
[03:05] <fancy> ..虎虎
[03:05] <DasEi> !cn | fancy
[03:05] <losher> andruk: is it this? http://www.sandklef.com/hesa/index.php/2009/05/28/record-extension-malfunctions-xnee-too/
[03:05] <DasEi> fancy: youi speak english ?
[03:05] <chu_> Argh, nothing.
[03:06] <fancy> where are you from?
[03:06] <ab2qik> DasEi, ok, doing.
[03:07] <DasEi> fancy: I'm german, for chatter #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:07] <whitey1> i need some help with my gnome session
[03:07] <andruk> losher: that would be the one
[03:08] <fancy> nice to talking with you here
[03:08] <bobertdos> whitey1: specifically?
[03:08] <losher> andruk: I dunno anything about it myself. But you might find a solution there...
[03:09] <whitey1> when i start my computer, i get a desktop and icons. my gnome session wont start properly. i found if i run "sudo gnome-session&" it comes back, but it took awhile to figure that out.
[03:10] <coaxmt> what channel should I go to for discussing/asking about karmic?
[03:10] <whitey1> i cant alt-tab, and if i start more than 1 window, say terminal and firefox, the second one to open is at the front and cant be switched.
[03:10] <Darkomen> fancy: chinese punk
[03:11] <bobertdos> !ubuntu+1 | coaxmt
[03:11] <joshua__> what is a good firefox theme that blends well with ubuntu?
[03:11] <coaxmt> thanks
[03:11] <xnok> hello|xnok
[03:12] <fancy> fuck you
[03:12] <fancy> fuck you darkomen
[03:12] <nightfrog> that is mean
[03:12] <fancy> fuck
[03:12] <FloodBot1> fancy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:13] <joshua__> flood, what about the language?
[03:13] <jonnay> Hello.  I have just installed ubuntu on an Acer laptop.  It has a canadian keyboard, so the left shift is half size, and it has a special punctuation key beside it.  I'd like to rebind this crazy punctuation key to shift, how would I go about doing that?
[03:13] <andruk> losher: some of that stuff is 2 years old...i dont think its going to be fixed anytime soon...
[03:14] <whitey1> bobertdos: can you think of anything to resolve it?
[03:15] <losher> andruk: well, at least you know not to waste more time on it...
[03:21] <ab2qik> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/f65bbf67c   http://pastebin.com/f60d65e3f
[03:21] <housetier> when updating the package list I get this error message: http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2985/wastun.png  has the key changed for de.archive.ubuntu.com? I have been using this mirror for a long time now, never saw this message before
[03:23] <ab2qik> DasEi, are you around
[03:23] <Flannel> housetier: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support, thanks
[03:23] <chu_> *Sigh*
[03:24] <DasEi> ab2qik: in pastebin, yes , so the "swaps" are your lvms, so got to mount them first
[03:24] <audigy6x> hey yall
[03:24] <chu_> oes anyone have any experience with an AR928X Atheros wireless card?
[03:24] <demonspork> !hi | audigy6x
[03:24] <WanHouse> chu_: chudick
[03:25] <audigy6x> hi demonspork
[03:25] <ab2qik> DasEi,  swaps are not lvm. They are swap files.
[03:25] <audigy6x> I use atheros cards
[03:25] <ChogyDan> chu_: try installing linux-backports-modules-jaunty-generic
[03:26] <chu_> ChogyDan: done.
[03:26] <ab2qik> DasEi, sda5 is lvm
[03:27] <RickZilla> How can I enable universe and multiverse in ubuntu?
[03:27] <DasEi> ab2qik: right, why do you have so many swaps ?
[03:27] <DasEi> RickZilla: call synaptic
[03:28] <DasEi> repos
[03:28] <DasEi> !repos
[03:28] <ab2qik> DasEi,  within sda5 are lvs
[03:28] <joeb3_> RickZilla, in synaptic. Settings, Repos
[03:28] <ab2qik> DasEi, multiple swaps help performance
[03:29] <RickZilla> joeb3_: Got it, thanks, I'll check it out
[03:29] <DasEi> ab2qik: ?? how that ? how much ram do you use ?
[03:29] <ab2qik> 2gb
[03:29] <bobertdos> whitey1: Hmm, you could be having compiz issues. Perhaps you should disable visual effects and see if you can at least switch windows in a non-accelerated environment.
[03:29] <ab2qik> DasEi, 2gb
[03:30] <whitey1> bobertdos: im able to switch between netbook and standard when using the desktop switcher, its when i start the system that it doesn't work
[03:30] <DasEi> ab2qik: so you might need 1 swap if you exceed that memory or want to hibernate, anyway, let's get it done, install lvm if not done :
[03:31] <DasEi> ab2qik: sudo apt-get install lvm2
[03:31] <bobertdos> whitey1: Okay, so are we talking about switching between windows or physical displays?
[03:32] <chu_> If I need to find the .inf driver for my wireless card, to try it through ndiswrapper, what should I look for?
[03:32] <ab2qik> DasEi, lvm is installed. Running lvscan shows the active lv's devices available & ready for mounting
[03:32] <whitey1> bobertdos: when i start the system, i have no bars on the top or the bottom
[03:32] <DasEi> ab2qik: sudo mkdir /lvm_var
[03:32] <bobertdos> chu_: XP drivers seem to work best it seems.
[03:32] <DasEi> ab2qik: sudo mkdir lvm_var       ,sorry
[03:32] <whitey1> my desktop is there, and so are some icons, and i can even make a launcher. just nothing else
[03:32] <DasEi> ab2qik: sudo mkdir lvm_usr
[03:33] <ryan\n> Hello, I downloaded the latest ubuntu 32bit version, and im trying to install it on an older laptop and having problems.
[03:33] <chu_> And I just need to find the right inf and sys files yeah?
[03:33] <ab2qik> DasEi, if you dont mind i prefer mkdir varlv
[03:33] <ab2qik> DasEi, mkdir usrlv
[03:33] <DasEi> ab2qik: sudo mount /dev/..       /varlv
[03:34] <DasEi> ..
[03:34] <ab2qik> DasEi, ok
[03:34] <audigy6x> Ryan\n have you tryed downloading it from a different site
[03:34] <ryan\n> My Problem:  After I select to install ubuntu, the ubuntu scrreen comes up, then a list of [ 229.186529] -- [ end trace ###] --, and my num lock and caps lock keys flash constantly
[03:34] <ryan\n> audigy6x, I don't think the download was corrupt
[03:34] <bobertdos> whitey1: I've used this before to force my whole session to rebuild. Perhaps this would help you. http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[03:34] <audigy6x> How old is the ladtop
[03:35] <ab2qik> DasEi, whats next
[03:35] <ryan\n> mmm, its aDell Lattitude, maybe 5~8 years
[03:35] <blakamin> I'm running 185 and it's using all my settings from jaunty without even installing compiz fusion manager... lol
[03:35] <DasEi> ab2qik: sudo cp -r  /var/*   /varlv
[03:35] <blakamin> oops... sorry
[03:35] <DasEi> ab2qik: sudo cp -r  /usr/*   /usrlv
[03:35] <ryan\n> audigy6x, Dell Latitude, maybe 5~8 years.
[03:36] <audigy6x> Intel pentiume 4 or 3
[03:36] <ab2qik> DasEi, but i did exactly what you are saying except it was for /mnt/var NOT varlv
[03:36] <quickshiftin> hi gang, has anyone in here used open-iscsi on ubuntu ?
[03:36] <ryan\n> audigy6x, 3
[03:36] <ab2qik> DasEi, that would not make a difference would it?
[03:36] <ryan\n> audigy6x, Dell latitude C600 if  that helps
[03:37] <quickshiftin> ive looked through several online guides which seem to say the same thing
[03:37] <chu_> This Atheros.cz website recommends trying madwifi... I have heard madwifi and ndiswrapper don't get along too friendly.. Should I remove ndiswrapper and try madwifi?
[03:37] <quickshiftin> heres the problem, after i discover and login, there are no new disks present in fdisk -l
[03:37] <quickshiftin> any ideas what the issue might be ?
[03:37] <audigy6x> ryan/n.....yeah ubuntu has problems with intels 3 ....might what to try open suse
[03:37] <DasEi> ab2qik: the fstab least was wrong
[03:38] <DasEi> ab2qik: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_fresh
[03:39] <ryan\n> audigy6x, this is unfortunate, thanks, I guess i will try that then :), what exactly is suse? different distribution of linux?
[03:39] <audigy6x> Chu might what to try the ath5k drivers
[03:39] <Xzia> french ? :$
[03:39] <audigy6x> ryan/n yes just goggle open suse
[03:39] <ryan\n> ty
[03:39] <DasEi> ab2qik: now get the /dev/.. identifiers from lvscan , edit fstab
[03:40] <audigy6x> no problem
[03:40] <DasEi> ab2qik: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:40] <fancy> which IDE is best one in gnome environment?
[03:40] <chu_> audigy6x, can you help me with this?
[03:40] <fancy> for C,C++
[03:41] <chu_> fancy, emacs -nw
[03:41] <Xzia> :( personne parle francais ?
[03:41] <eido> hmmm that didnt work.  I installed ubuntu to hda6 and chose no boot loader.  configured lilo on hda1 to "image = /boot/vmlinuz root = /dev/hda6 label = Ubuntu" ubuntu starts booting but once at the text login the screen flashes the a graphic window error appears that video is in basic mode and freezes
[03:41] <eido> should image = /boot/vmlinuz?
[03:42] <webbb82> whn i went to download and install droopbox the installer fails and says bad descriptor
[03:42] <DasEi> ab2qik:change the "dev/Vg1/var" to the correctr identifiers http://paste.ubuntu.com/283457/
[03:43] <chu_> audigy6x, do I have to do some compilation here? or will there be a deb?
[03:43] <audigy6x> Chu what are you trying to do
[03:43] <DasEi> eido : no, path is right, got a problem with graphics
[03:43] <DasEi> eido : boot in recoverymode > fix x-xserver
[03:43] <chu_> Install this arth5k package
[03:44] <khelvan> Hello, I am trying to watch a live stream at www.hockeystreams.com (in the Firefox browser), but it is telling me "No packages with the requested plugins found," and they are: Windows Media Video 9 decoder, Windows Media Audio 8 decoder...but I've installed ubuntu-restricted, the medibuntu codecs, etc...
[03:44] <chu_> ath5k*
[03:44] <ab2qik> DasEi,   "dev/Vg1/var"  to mount to /varlv
[03:44] <eido> DasEi: can I fix x-xserver in the live session I am running?
[03:44] <DasEi> ab2qik: no, to /var
[03:44] <Umeaboy> khelvan: Install w32-codecs
[03:44] <audigy6x> well I use my ath5k driver in Backtrack4 pre
[03:44] <DasEi> eido:yes, mount the hd..
[03:45] <WanHouse> Please paste this into #linux for me: I warned you bitchstew. "We, the coders and creators think you suck arse" Please shut the hell up bitch!
[03:45] <khelvan> Umeaboy - I am running on 64-bit, I need the 32-bit codecs too?
[03:45] <ab2qik> DasEi, this i where i dont get it
[03:46] <chu_> Oh noes, apparantly I have to compile my own kernel.
[03:46] <DasEi> ab2qik: the mountpoint is just an file organisation, the identifier in front of fstab the real place it writes/reads
[03:47] <DasEi> eido:sudo fdisk -l
[03:47] <DasEi> eido :  or  mount
[03:47] <eido> DasEi: yeah so i am looking at the xorg now
[03:48] <DasEi> eido : find your root partition,  like /dev/sda5 or sth
[03:48] <DasEi> eido : where is it mounted ?
[03:48] <ab2qik> DasEi,   Device = /dev/Vg1/var.  Mounted on /varlv.  In fstab, device = /dev/Vg1/var.  Mounted/identifier = /var
[03:49] <DasEi> ab2qik: right
[03:49] <eido> DasEi: i mounted sda6 which holds the ubuntu install
[03:49] <eido> here is the xorg for ubuntu http://pastebin.com/m309b4792
[03:49] <DasEi> eido: mount (no args)  to find the mountpoint (?/media/disk)
[03:50] <DasEi> eido : in live cd's terminal : sudo chroot /dev/sda6
[03:50] <chu_> Only my video drivers appear in Hardware Drivers!
[03:50] <DasEi> chu_: normal behaviour
[03:51] <DasEi> ab2qik: save fstab, close file, reboot
[03:51] <khelvan> Umeaboy - I tried installing w32codecs, and got this:  Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:51] <Umeaboy> khelvan: Okey. What package?
[03:51] <eido> chroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/sda6: Not a directory
[03:51] <Umeaboy> gstreamer-bad-ugly?
[03:52] <DasEi> khelvan: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:52] <eido> DasEi:  cant i just fix the xorg on sda6?
[03:52] <bobertdos> khelvan: Have you already added the medibuntu repo and added the key to the keyring?
[03:52] <DasEi> eido : sorry, chroot to the dir mount told you about sda6 o' course
[03:53] <ab2qik> DasEi, ok. You sure this will do it. It does make sense. Hope it works.
[03:53] <khelvan> umeaboy, dasei, bobertdos - I already have ubuntu-restricted-extras, already added medibuntu and the keyring, already installed w64codecs from medibuntu
[03:53] <DasEi> ab2qik: if not, can just copy fstab back
[03:54] <chu_> DasEi: Apparantly my wireless card should be visible though?
[03:54] <audigy6x> UBUNTU ROCKS
[03:54] <Umeaboy> khelvan: Okey, so you're on 64-bit?
[03:54] <DasEi> chu_: not in that section,
[03:54] <bobertdos> khelvan: I might be mistaken, but I think it only allows you to install one or the other, 32 or 64.
[03:54] <khelvan> Now per umeaboy above to get a windows media video 9 decoder and windows media audio 8 decoder I need to install w32codecs, and got the error above...yes, 64-bit
[03:54] <DasEi> !wireless | chu
[03:54] <Umeaboy> audigy6x: So does Mandriva. :)
[03:55] <audigy6x> true very true
[03:55] <DasEi> eido : chroot'ed ?
[03:55] <Umeaboy> khelvan: I believe that'll solve it.
[03:55] <newbie01> HELP!!  are the all the ubuntu servers slow right now, or what??  download from ubuntu.com is SLOW!!
[03:55] <mikinanuq> hi guys, what's the best solution for VNC on startup? ie.. computer boots up and you want to vnc to it without having to locally log in first?
[03:55] <eido> DasEi: not sure what you want me to change root to>
[03:55] <khelvan> umeaboy - thanks, uname: Linux bateleur 2.6.28-15-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 19:25:34 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux - but I already have w64codecs installed, and I still have the problem regarding wmv9 and audio 8
[03:55] <chu_> DasEi, cheers man
[03:55] <DasEi> eido: mount (no args)  to find the mountpoint (?/media/disk)
[03:55] <ab2qik> DasEi, fstab_fresh is a backup if need to recopy to fstab?
[03:55] <eido> DasEi: cant i just edit the xorg on sda6
[03:56] <DasEi> ab2qik: right
[03:56] <Umeaboy> khelvan: Check in mplayer what codec is needed.
[03:56] <bobertdos> newbie01: Everyone and their brother is probably going after the beta right now, which is probably suffocating the pipelines.
[03:56] <DasEi> eido: you could if you knew exact expressions, but from your question I assume don't
[03:56] <eido> DasEi: ok sudo chroot /media/disk-2
[03:57] <newbie01> bobertdos -- THANKS! that makes perfect sense.  here I thought the sky was falling..  should I check out the new beta?
[03:57] <DasEi> eido: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorgbroken
[03:57] <ab2qik> DasEi,  Thankyou, desi. Its late here. 4am. cant take more. see ca.
[03:57] <bobertdos> newbie01: We generally say, only if you're prepared to encounter bugs.
[03:57] <DasEi> eido: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:58] <DasEi> eido : then reboot and check (hd)
[03:58] <zruty> I have an ubuntu install on sda3. But I want to move it to another disk sda2. What is the best way to go about that?
[03:58] <kohwj> help, i don't have sound in adobe flash in firefox
[03:58] <kohwj> it worked before though
[03:59] <kohwj> and amarok works
[03:59] <bobertdos> kohwj: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[03:59] <newbie01> bobertdos -- I'll check it out..   thanks for keeping linux cool, everyone!!
[03:59] <prappl93> Every time I log in, gnome-pilot Setup launches... how do I stop this?
[03:59] <mikinanuq> kohwj: make sure PCM volume is turned up. MASTER may be fine but PCM not.
[04:00] <bobertdos> kohwj: If you're on Hardy and using Pulse, you cannot have two programs using audio simultaneously.
[04:00] <kohwj> mikinanuq: bobertdos: whoops, PCM was down! thanks
[04:00] <bobertdos> okay then :)
[04:00] <eido> DasEi: I think that bombed http://pastebin.com/m78c8e2bd
[04:02] <homebrewcider> hey there, running a server running xubuntu, I have a 40g IDE drive with the OS installed, then a 1tb sata drive attached to a sata card in there. Trouble is the 40g (the one with the OS) has filled up. In QTParted, the sata drive shows up as sda, the hdd with the OS shows up as sdb. I thought I mounted the new drive at /media , that way if anything I saved at /media went on that new HDD. Is that the way it works? What have I done wrong
[04:03] <khelvan> umeaboy - the problem is in an embedded player in Firefox (http://www.hockeystreams.com/preview) - how can I check it in mplayer?\
[04:03] <DasEi> eido: did a new xorg, try to reboot from hd, if it still fails : reboot again, press <ESC> when grub loading..  appears, choose recovery-mode  and then again run repair xserver
[04:04] <eido> i didnt install grub
[04:04] <eido> or do you mean on the live boot
[04:05] <mikinanuq> homebrewcider: do a 'df -h' and see what's mounted. maybe you didn't mount it right.
[04:05] <eido> DasEi: the text in xorg.conf on sda6 is the same
[04:08] <DasEi> eido: reboot from hd, press <ESC> when grub loading..  appears, choose recovery-mode  and then again run repair xserver
[04:08] <chu_> So, I'm up to this point, in this tutorial where they want me to clean out the free drivers I *may* have installed. How can I check to make sure that I do have these drivers installed? Sorry, they've given me an uber long command, and I'm a bit hesitant to enter it....
[04:08] <eido> DasEi: i dont have grub installed
[04:08] <DasEi> eido: but ?
[04:09] <eido> DasEi: i am using lilo
[04:09] <bastid_raZor> chu_: apt-cache policy packagename .. that command will tell you if the packages/drivers are install. you will have to know the exact driver/package
[04:09] <chu_> Yeah, cheers bastid_razor
[04:09] <DasEi> eido: this also lets you choose bootentry, F4 or sth
[04:10] <prappl93> Whats the Terminal command for getting Java? I know its sudo apt-get install, but what am I installing?
[04:10] <DasEi> !java
[04:10] <chu_> Unrestricted
[04:11] <prappl93> Thanks, I already have the unrestricted ones... what just happened?
[04:11] <pablo__> hi
[04:11] <Omlette> Ah, yes.
[04:11] <Omlette> Netsplits all around.
[04:12] <ronjohnson> is it possible to install Ubuntu on a USB Drive? (an Ubuntu where I can modify files, UNetBootin does not work because it only boots an ISO)
[04:12] <pablo__> conky??
[04:12] <char00les> robjonson: you can install ubuntu onto a USB drive
[04:12] <pablo__> conky with lua ... how to install from repositories??
[04:13] <char00les> robjonson: what OS are you using?
[04:13] <bastid_raZor> pablo__: what is lua?
[04:13] <Roasted> What is it about Linux's file system that makes it useless to defrag it?
[04:14] <bastid_raZor> !defrag | Roasted
[04:14] <homebrewcider> the hdd I "mounted" at  /media/data doesn't show up
[04:15] <Jill> where can i get any cool monospace font for my gnome-terminal?
[04:15] <bastid_raZor> homebrewcider: how did you attempt to mount it?
[04:15] <pablo__> bastid_razor --> http://norsetto.890m.com/Conky_Cairo.php
[04:15] <char00les> roasted: cause it uses FAT32 using ext3 where as Windows uses NFTS
[04:16] <mikinanuq> homebrewcider: sorry gotta go but looks like bastid_raZor might be able to help.
[04:16] <Roasted> char00les - what? FAT32 uses ext3?
[04:16] <pablo__> Jill --> sudo apt-get install ttf-droid
[04:17] <Jill> pablo__: what about ttf-driod and cyrillic?
[04:17] <char00les> Roasted: sorry...i guess i got that wrong
[04:17] <homebrewcider> checking something here, will get back
[04:17] <monokrome> Is it just me, or is Ubuntu a networking nightmare unless you use Gnome?
[04:17] <pablo__> it's a cool font monospace
[04:17] <bin1010> need to reboot..brb
[04:17] <foundry87> I'm trying to set a share folder across two computers running Ubuntu. When I right click the folder and press sharing options, it tells me I need to install the Windows networks sharing service. Why is it telling me to install something that has to do with Windows?
[04:18] <Omlette> !samba | foundry87
[04:18] <bastid_raZor> pablo__: go to the downloads section of that website. it shows what packages are required to use that. you can get conky from apt-get but you'll need to build the cairo portion.
[04:18] <foundry87> Omlette: I don't want to do anything with Windows, I don't have any computers with Windows. They are two computers running Ubuntu.
[04:19] <monokrome> If I switch to Openbox - my wifi doesn't work. Is there a standard way to fix this?
[04:19] <bastid_raZor> monokrome: ask in #openbox ?
[04:19] <pablo__> thank's <bastid_raZor> I think i have to compile a while...
[04:20] <monokrome> bastid_raZor: That is an issue with any window manager that isn't running in Gnome, so it is a Ubuntu question. Ubuntu has foobar networking.
[04:20] <bastid_raZor> pablo__: yeah, good luck. that looks like a cool add on to conky. i am a fan of conky myself.
[04:21] <Plecebo> what are the risks of reinstalling an operating system that is using mdadm for a raid that does not contain the system information?
[04:22] <homebrewcider> reckon I must've mounted it as sdb (assuming that the first hdd would be sda) but now in qtparted the first hdd shows up as sdb, and the new one as sda
[04:22] <pablo__> I instaled Karmic ALpha6 ... when the final version it's ready... i have to do a dist-upgrade??
[04:23] <zruty> I have an ubuntu install on sda3. But I want to move it to another disk sda2. What is the best way to go about that?
[04:23] <bastid_raZor> homebrewcider: in a terminal type sudo fdisk -l  ..this will show you all drives connected (mounted or not) to your computer.
[04:24] <bin1010> okay that didn't work either, I tried compiz --replace.  Then I restarted and still nothing.  If i start compiz from terminal, everything seems fine, anyone see this and fix it before?
[04:24] <bastid_raZor> pablo__: #ubuntu+1 for karmic .. and no you should be able to just do a regular apt-get update and be at the final.
[04:24] <bin1010> I am on ubuntu 9.04
[04:24] <ronjohnson> how can I tell if I'm using 64 bit ubuntu or 32 bit ubuntu?
 Ok... and thank you very much
[04:24] <bastid_raZor> ronjohnson: uname -m
[04:24] <homebrewcider> the hdd I want to mount shows up in that as sda
[04:25] <ronjohnson> thanks bastid_raZor
[04:25] <outoftime> quick question - if i want to alias a domain name to another (like in /etc/hosts, but i want to point one domain to another, rather than a domain at an IP), is there a simple way to do it?
[04:25] <huston_> does anyone know what could cause my computer to struggle to download at speeds greater than 30Kb/s whenever i download anything via wget in the terminal. my computer is plugged directly into the AT&T U-Verse Gateway and the plan i'm on is supposed to allow download speeds of 300Mb/s
[04:25] <audigy6x> ronjohnson you would know from the ver you downlod
[04:25] <joeb3_> huston_, what are you connecting to?  some sites throttle the traffic
[04:25] <bastid_raZor> homebrewcider:  it should have a number after sda.. then you can easily mount it via /etc/fstab on each boot
[04:26] <homebrewcider> no, sdb has 1,2 and 5, sda has nothing
[04:27] <di||itante> Wow. The karmic repos are getting hammered
[04:27] <bastid_raZor> homebrewcider: can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[04:27] <huston_> i am connecting to http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-beta-desktop-amd64.iso
[04:27] <homebrewcider> not really, on another computer
[04:27] <di||itante> Im getting 50kB from them now
[04:28] <bastid_raZor> homebrewcider: does the computer that has issues have internet? command line only?
[04:28] <pablo__> the last question.... I like to start ubuntu with compiz ... but i have to starting from compiz fusion icon because compiz didn't start by default... how can configure that?
[04:28] <bastid_raZor> pablo__: you're on karmic right?
[04:28] <homebrewcider> hang on
[04:28] <homebrewcider> working on pasting it
[04:28] <pablo__> yes... in Karmic
[04:29] <bb05> is lubuntu supported yet by ubuntuforums?
[04:29] <bastid_raZor> homebrewcider: if you have internet on that box do: sudo apt-get install pastebinit  ..then youc an pastebin files from command line
[04:29] <bastid_raZor> pablo__: please join #ubuntu +1
[04:29] <huston_> ok so apparently it's not just me having issues downloading the Karmic beta live cd iso.
[04:30] <homebrewcider> http://pastebin.ca/1588848
[04:30] <bin1010> brb...try this again...
[04:30] <di||itante> huston_: im doing updates and its sloooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:30] <stlsaint> huston_, the servers are being hammered right now...people across the globe downloading
[04:30] <huston_> one more thing why is it that even though i have more than 1 computer on my network that is running ubuntu, neither of them can seem to discover each other.
[04:30] <stlsaint> huston_, how are you trying?
 how I do that??
[04:31] <prappl93> I have a bit of an annoyance. Every time I log onto Ubuntu, the Palm OS Devices setup thing loads. How do I stop this from happening?
[04:31] <huston_> Places > Network
[04:31] <bastid_raZor> pablo__: /join #ubuntu+1    to join that channel.
[04:31] <stlsaint> huston_, are you trying ssh or what?
[04:32] <pablo__>  /join #ubuntu+1
[04:32] <huston_> ssh?
[04:32] <stlsaint> also does anybody know of a good media streamer to stream to the ps3?
[04:32] <stlsaint> pablo__, you have to make a new channel tab or tree then do the cmd above
[04:32] <stlsaint> huston_, secure shell!
[04:32] <pablo__> ok.... I do that .., thanks
[04:33] <bastid_raZor> pablo__: or type it without the preceding space
[04:33] <homebrewcider> bastid     http://pastebin.ca/1588848
[04:33] <stlsaint> huston_, you know ssh?
[04:34] <huston_> uhm. no. never even heard of the term before now.
[04:34] <bastid_raZor> homebrewcider: it isn't showing a valid partition on /dev/sdb
[04:34] <pablo__> ssh --> secure shell
[04:35] <huston_> ok thx to wikipedia i now know what it is.
[04:36] <prappl93> How do I prevent the gnome-pilot settings thing from showing up when logging in?
[04:37] <homebrewcider> seems like I screwed it up big time hey
[04:37] <ByteWaLkeR> why is the eclipse package in jaunty only at version 3.2? *boggle*
[04:37] <ferezini> como corrigo esse erro: ntdll:find_reg_tz_info Can't find matching timezone information in the registry for bias 180, std (d/m/y): 24/02/2008, dlt (d/m/y): 2/11/2008
[04:37] <ferezini> ?
[04:37] <homebrewcider> do you mean sda?
[04:37] <prappl93> ferezini, hablas ingles?
[04:38] <huston_> where do i go to make my ubuntu computers visible on my network?
[04:38] <bastid_raZor> homebrewcider: yes, sorry.
[04:39] <homebrewcider> how would I fix that? there an easy way?
[04:39] <chu_> Let's hope something has changed ..
[04:39] <ferezini> prappl93 no
[04:39] <bastid_raZor> homebrewcider: in gparted it clearly saw the drive with no partition?
[04:40] <xangua> !es | ferezini
[04:40] <eido> can someone look at this error.  I dont think it is from my xorg   http://pastebin.com/d66e04301
[04:40] <bastid_raZor> homebrewcider: have you ever actually used the drive before?
[04:40] <prappl93> ferezini, lo siento, mas personas hablas ingles aqui
[04:41] <homebrewcider> thought I was, till it (obviously the other one) was full
[04:41] <homebrewcider> running qtparted again now
[04:41] <chuy_max> guys, if I'm serious about running linux on top of linux (Ubuntu Feisty inside Ubuntu Jaunty), what virtualization application should I use?
[04:42] <homebrewcider> shows up now as status "hidden"
[04:42] <chuy_max> I've found out that there are at least 5 virtualization programs
[04:42] <bastid_raZor> chuy_max: vmware or virtualbox
[04:42] <agliodbs> so, I'm looking for a simple, command-line backup tool
[04:42] <homebrewcider> I need it as fat32
[04:42] <agliodbs> I can write my own perl script, but I thought there might already be something out there
[04:42] <chuy_max> bastid_raZor, have you noticed a performance difference between both programs?
[04:42] <Scunizi> What's the cli command to find out what version of ubuntu is installed?
[04:42] <huston_> i'd have to say i wasn't using ssh considering the package for it wasn't installed
[04:42] <agliodbs> backintime looks, nice, but it's GUI
[04:42] <agliodbs> and this machine is a headless server
[04:43] <bastid_raZor> Scunizi: lsb_release -a  ..you're serious? :P
[04:43] <Scunizi> bastid_raZor: not my machine.. just trying to get a hp printer working
[04:43] <chuy_max> bastid_raZor, or devices compatibility problems?
[04:43] <Zachk18> i'm here to help
[04:43] <Scunizi> bastid_raZor: personally I never use the command enough to remember it.
[04:43] <Zachk18> _celthunder, hey!
[04:43] <homebrewcider> no partitions show up on sda
[04:43] <chu_> Still no wireless :(
[04:44] <bastid_raZor> chuy_max: virtualbox from the repo's lacks usb support which is why i prefer vmware.
[04:44] <Zachk18> chu_, hello
[04:44] <oliver1> hi
[04:44] <chu_> Hey Zachk18
[04:44] <bastid_raZor> Scunizi: good luck.
[04:44] <Zachk18> chu_, what seems to be the issue my friend?
[04:45] <chu_> So, I'm following this ndiswrapper tutorial on help.ubuntu
[04:45] <Zachk18> chu_, ok
[04:45] <chu_> I have just gone through the configuration process, and ndiswrapper -l actually returns something! However, I still can't get any wireless going on.
[04:46] <bastid_raZor> chu_: lspci | grep Ethernet ..what card do you have?
[04:46] <chu_> It was working last night (and since the upgrade to Jaunty from intrepid), I don't know what I did last night though.
[04:46] <chu_> I have an Atheros AR928X Wireless ard...
[04:46] <Scunizi> bastid_raZor: a little query on ubuntuforums and looks like I'll need to install the latest hplip to get this one working.. :)  I hope anyway
[04:46] <prappl93> Is there an official change list for Ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04?
[04:47] <chu_> I have been told the at5k package is what I want...
[04:47] <bastid_raZor> chu_: Jaunty has ath5/9 modules preloaded..
[04:47] <chuy_max> bastid_raZor, I have 1 more question, I know vmWare is proprietary, is it free?
[04:47] <bastid_raZor> chuy_max: they do have a free version out there.
[04:48] <buu> So guys
[04:48] <bastid_raZor> chu_: nothing in hardware drivers?
[04:48] <chu_> Nothing but nvidia drivers
[04:48] <buu> My gnome thingy popped up a nice little message saying "your system had a kernel failure" with some dialog box options. I don't actually care about this message, and more to the point, I can't get rid of it because I don't have a mouse plugged in
[04:49] <buu> Someone save me
[04:49] <bastid_raZor> chu_: try installing the package.
[04:49] <chu_> I just tried this sudo modprobe ndiswrapper command, and it gave me the following error "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."
[04:49] <eido> can someone help me with my graphical issue http://pastebin.com/d66e04301
[04:49] <chu_> which package bastid_razor?
[04:50] <bastid_raZor> buu: can you hold alt then press tab to switch to the window then alt+F4 it ?
[04:50] <buu> No
[04:51] <peres> I was updating some large packages today but the servers are unbearably slow... it's because of the beta release, right?
[04:51] <prappl93> Is there an official change guide for 9.10 or will that be released along side 9.10?
[04:51] <buu> bastid_raZor: Is there any other keyboard shortcuts I can try?
[04:51] <Zachk18> prappl93, welcome..first time to ubuntu?
[04:51] <bastid_raZor> chu_: buu possibly windows key and tab ?
[04:51] <prappl93> I am rather new, yes, but I have been on here before.
[04:52] <Zachk18> prappl93, feel free to open a dialog window with me
[04:52] <buu> bastid_raZor: .. windows tab?
[04:52] <Zachk18> prappl93, it can get confusing in here
[04:52] <buu> bastid_raZor: Mmm nope
[04:53] <bastid_raZor> buu: windows key.. no other idea if those two key combos work.
[04:53] <bastid_raZor> chu_: the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros page didn't help?
[04:54] <eido> is there a way to shrink the menu icons?
[04:54] <chu_> Sweet, haven't been here yet
[04:54] <chu_> Ahaha
[04:54] <gullstein> I got two computers where I use suspend. booth work at suspend2 ram, but only one work at suspend2 disk. It apear to me that the same packages are used.
[04:55] <eido> I only see a way to remove them.  are menu icons not vector graphics?
[04:55] <chu_> Ok, hopefully this works.
[04:56] <chu_> Reboot time, thanks bastid_razor for the help, I should be back shortly.
[04:58] <eido> also when removing the menu icons and shrinking the text size the items do not get any closer.  is anyone familiar with this?
[05:00] <chu_> No luck yet.
[05:00] <buu> There has to be some way to make this dialog go away
[05:00] <bastid_raZor> chu_: are you trying while plugged in with an ethernet cable?
[05:01] <chu_> Yeah, but wireless isn't even visible anymore.
[05:02] <Joe_who_dnt_kno> can sum1 help me
[05:02] <intok> I get this error when trying to get sound out of my logitech usb headset: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback.
[05:02] <martin_henry> Joe_dnt_kno what's wrong?
[05:03] <martin_henry> Joe_who_dnt_kno what's wrong?
[05:03] <Joe_who_dnt_kno> i dled this tar.gz file and extracted but idk how to install the file i need
[05:04] <shane2peru> Joe_who_dnt_kno: what are you trying to install?  you are best off getting your packages from the repositories.
[05:04] <bastid_raZor> chu_: have you checked this forum post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=894177
[05:04] <brishu> Top bar, Applications, Add/Remove programs
[05:04] <Joe_who_dnt_kno> Hyenae 0.35-1
[05:05] <chu_> Yeah I have.
[05:05] <chu_> I just found a post on madwifi which seems to suggest I should try that for the ar928x
[05:05] <chu_> To install madwifi, I have to remove ndiswrapper, or will this happen for me?
[05:06] <chu_> Oh, I can just blacklist ndiswrapper.
[05:06] <buu> I guess this is the kerneloops applet
[05:06] <buu> Is there a way to make gnome display a list of windows or applets or something
[05:07] <Zaidy> hi everyone
[05:07] <jasmuz> Hello all, i have a borked apt-get system because of one lowsy package, that i installed manually from getdeb, any takers on how to solve the issue?? Private msg me pls
[05:07] <sparr> Is there anything better than tovid for turning random video files into semi-professional video DVDs on linux?
[05:07] <Zaidy> i have a probleme when installing irssi
[05:07] <intok> Why can't I get this damn usb headset to work in 9.04 whe it has worked out of box with every previous ubuntu?
[05:08] <Zaidy> i get this error "GLIB is required to build irssi" can anyone help please
[05:08] <jasmuz> intok, did you check what via it uses for sound? ALSA, Pulseaudio or OSS? 9.04 is very inclusive with PA, and that could be the difference
[05:09] <brian> can i run compiz in xfce??????????
[05:09] <jasmuz> brian, yes you can
[05:09] <brian> jasmuz, i was thinkin bout giving xfce a  try
[05:09] <intok> jasmuz tried alsa and the headset directly, both still send sound to the rear sound out
[05:10] <wrapster> I just ran a version upgrade on one of my vm and was told to include this " -B disable-pcieb=true" in the grub..  would like to know how i should do it and what is this command?
[05:10] <jasmuz> brian, unless you are going minimalistic or are on a low end pc, its uncalled for to switch
[05:11] <jasmuz> intok, that seems bad... don't have a clue how to help there.. don't have one myself
[05:11] <brian> im on a netbook
[05:11] <brian> gnome runs pretty good but i heard xfce was a good option
[05:11] <Zaidy> can anyone help me please
[05:12] <jasmuz> brian, can i give you a slab of advice.. on a netbook, use the netbook enhanced desks
[05:12] <jasmuz> Zaidy, what is the issue?
[05:12] <jasmuz> Hello all, i have a borked apt-get system because of one lowsy package, that i installed manually from getdeb, any takers on how to solve the issue?? Private msg me pls
[05:12] <harisund> Zaidy are you trying to compile irssi? Why not just install it from the repositories?
[05:12] <Zaidy> jasmuz: i get this error "GLIB is required to build irssi"
[05:13] <Zaidy> jasmuz:  even after installing the package
[05:13] <brian> like netbook remix?
[05:13] <chibihogoshino> i installed gtk-chtheme and now when i change the themes with the gnome theme changer it is stuck with the old theme and the new one too
[05:13] <jasmuz> Zaidy, why are you trying to build irssi?
[05:13] <harisund> zaidy how did you install irssi?
[05:13] <chibihogoshino> if that makes any sense
[05:13] <jasmuz> chibihogoshino, change the root one too
[05:13] <Zaidy> jasmuz: to install it
[05:14] <jasmuz> !build-essentials Zaidy
[05:14] <chibihogoshino> root what ?
[05:14] <Zaidy> jasmuz: i already did it
[05:14] <jasmuz> Zaidy, get yourself the package build-essentials and check if you still got errors
[05:14] <chu_> This is fairly frustrating now, I don't even know what I have been done anymore.
[05:14] <Zaidy> jasmuz: i have installed all the dependencies but i still get the error
[05:14] <jasmuz> chibihogoshino, open the gnome theme as root and apply it too
[05:15] <jasmuz> Zaidy, why don't you use an already precompiled package then?
[05:15] <chibihogoshino> what is the command to open the theme manager
[05:15] <Zaidy> jasmuz: there isn't
[05:16] <jasmuz> Zaidy, are you telling me there isn't an irssi package in the repositories?
[05:16] <chu_> I download irssi like yesterday from the repos
[05:17] <Zaidy> jasmuz: the version in the rep is a bit old :D
[05:17] <jasmuz> Zaidy, ohh.. I see
[05:17] <jasmuz> Hello all, i have a borked apt-get system because of one lowsy package, that i installed manually from getdeb, any takers on how to solve the issue?? Private msg me pls
[05:18] <harisund> Hey guys how do I know if my graphics card is detected correctly or whatever, as in is my graphics being rendered by a software or hardware?
[05:18] <shane2peru> jasmuz: how is it messed up?
[05:19] <RussellAlan> Whats the cmd to partition a sdcard?
[05:19] <jasmuz> shane2peru, so messed up i cant install, delete or do anything.
[05:19] <nhasian> RussellAlan, you can use gparted
[05:19] <shane2peru> jasmuz: what did you install?
[05:19] <chibihogoshino> jasmuz, that didnt work
[05:19] <RussellAlan> yeah thats it
[05:19] <RussellAlan> thanks
[05:19] <jasmuz> shane2peru, and it won't allow me to remove the package that is broken
[05:19] <shane2peru> jasmuz: what package is it?
[05:19] <trt> Question: I've been messing with GRUB 2, and I'm having an issue.  Whenever I edit anything in /etc/default/grub file, and run 'sudo update-grub2' settings such as the gfx_mode and default boot item are not reflected in the boot menu, does anyone know what could be causing this?
[05:20] <jasmuz> shane2peru, urd a usenet reader from getdeb.net
[05:20] <chu_> If I have unmet build depewndencies, do I just apt-get those dependencies?
[05:20] <lstarnes> chu_: apt-get build-dep packagename
[05:20] <chu_> Where packagename is the package I'm trying to install?
[05:20] <jasmuz> shane2peru, any idea???
[05:20] <lstarnes> chu_: yes
[05:20] <mark[oz]> hey guys, using cli, can i block a certain ip address? should i use iptables, or is there a neater solution?
[05:20] <shane2peru> jasmuz: try this in the terminal: sudo dpkg --purge urd
[05:21] <shane2peru> jasmuz: it can be fixed, I just have to remember how
[05:21] <jasmuz> shane2peru, that dosen't even tickle it
[05:21] <shane2peru> jasmuz: what is the output?
[05:22] <chu_> Package sysutils has no install candidate
[05:22] <chu_> Bugger.
[05:22] <RussellAlan> damnit, whats my su pw
[05:22] <jasmuz> shane2peru, ackage is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[05:22] <lstarnes> RussellAlan: ubuntu doesn't have a root/su password set by default
[05:22] <lstarnes> RussellAlan: sudo is used instead
[05:22] <shane2peru> jasmuz: oh, I think it is: sudo apt-get -fix-broken install
[05:22] <nhasian> mark[oz], did you try ufw?
[05:23] <alabd> Good day every one ,How to find if modem support fax or not in ubuntu ?
[05:23] <mark[oz]> nhasian, i've googled, came up pretty blank, so i haven't tried anything.. will google ufw
[05:23] <mark[oz]> thanks
[05:23] <jasmuz> jasmuz, that cli command is not correct
[05:23] <trt> Question: I've been messing with GRUB 2, and I'm having an issue.  Whenever I edit anything in /etc/default/grub file, and run 'sudo update-grub2' settings such as the gfx_mode and default boot item are not reflected in the boot menu, does anyone know what could be causing this?
[05:23] <RussellAlan> lstarnes: so sudo then the program name? Can you give me an example string
[05:23] <lstarnes> RussellAlan: what are you trying to run?
[05:23] <chu_> Mmm, sysutils isn't available for Jaunty?
[05:23] <RussellAlan> gparted
[05:23] <shane2peru> jasmuz: let me find it, I can't remember
[05:24] <donnybrasco> hey - can someone help me figure out how to rotate my second screen in hardy with nvidia 6150
[05:24] <jasmuz> shane2peru, if you help me fix this you will seriously be included in my prayers tonight
[05:24] <ArkoldThos> any program as coax thief or dhcp force?
[05:24] <shane2peru> jasmuz: try this: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:24] <RussellAlan> lstarnes: gparted
[05:24] <harisund> donnybrasco, do you have Nvidia drivers? is there like a Nvidia panel?
[05:24] <donnybrasco> I don't see a setting to do this in nvidia-settings
[05:24] <jasmuz> shane2peru, that won't do anything either
[05:24] <shane2peru> jasmuz: how did you install the deb, just clicking on it?
[05:25] <lstarnes> RussellAlan: because that is a graphical application, it uses gksudo instead of sudo.  try gksudo gparted
[05:25] <harisund> donnybrasco, the only thing I can think of is to use xrandr .. are you familiar with the command line?
[05:25] <donnybrasco> harisund: yes
[05:25] <RussellAlan> lstarnes: ahh gracious senior
[05:25] <jasmuz> shane2peru, downloaded it from getdeb, just installed it via gdebi.. but i think i removed later mysql which it depends on, and it just flipped
[05:25] <prappl93> The Palm OS Devices thing keeps coming up when I log into Ubuntu, how do I fix this?
[05:26] <gullstein> I got two computers where I use suspend. booth work at suspend2 ram, but only one work at suspend2 disk. It apear to me that the same packages are used.
[05:26] <shane2peru> jasmuz: can you pastebin the out put of this: sudo apt-get remove urd
[05:26] <chu_> Does anyone know what packages will allow me to get sysutils on Jaunty?
[05:26] <shane2peru> jasmuz: it has been a while since I botched my apt-get stuff.
[05:26] <jasmuz> shane2peru, i don't know how to use pastebin
[05:26] <darksmac> quit
[05:26] <harisund> donnybrasco, what I did on my Tablet PC was to include a line --> Option "RandRRotation"  "true" <--- in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file under the "Display" section
[05:27] <jasmuz> shane2peru, it says: E: The package urd needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:27] <shane2peru> jasmuz: it is really simple www.pastebin.com  paste the output of the command on that web page, and hit submit and copy the address bar and past it here
[05:27] <huston> prappl93: my best guess is by going into system>preferences>Startup Applications
[05:27] <shane2peru> jasmuz: ok, do you still have the deb that you got?
[05:27] <jasmuz> Yes
[05:27] <prappl93> Huston, what would be in the list?
[05:27] <shane2peru> jasmuz: double click it to re-install it
[05:28] <shai> Does anyone know how I can enforce the larger DPI ( I set it to 120 instead of 96 ) on X apps I started over SSH X11 Forwarding ? The DPI set on my XDM works great, but those menus are just way to small on the apps I start via SSH ...
[05:28] <RussellAlan> Hrmm, it's not recognizing my media card in GParted.
[05:28] <tone_red> Hi All, I have an rdesktop type question: Can I rdesktop to a windows 2003 server with Ipsec policy using a Shared Key from a ubuntu system. Can it be done?
[05:28] <RussellAlan> I did it the other day but forgot what the trick was to get it to see it.
[05:29] <huston> anything that starts automatically with ubuntu "should" be listed there
[05:29] <prappl93> Its not
[05:29] <prappl93> Or if it is, I don't know the name of it
[05:29] <shane2peru> jasmuz: was it able to re-install it?
[05:29] <RussellAlan> "An error occurred while accessing 'Volume (vfat)', the system responded: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.InterfaceLocked: The enclosing drive for the volume is locked
[05:29] <joeb3_> tone_red, yes, with ipsec-tools on Ubuntu.
[05:29] <kprav33n> Anyone trying to upgrade to 9.10 beta from mirrors.kernel.org?
[05:30] <jasmuz> shane2peru, it inmediately screams that i have broken dependencies and won't allow me to do anything
[05:30] <alabd> Good day every one ,How to find if modem support fax or not in ubuntu ?
[05:30] <kprav33n> I am getting a hash mismatch for a couple of files.
[05:30] <PCTeacher012> Hey, I just installed Ubutnu 9.04, for the... 3rd time i think. Been a while. But my problem currently is i am trying to get an online radio to work: www.sosradio.net but every time it opens the radio, it says "starting", then "Streaming", then "Stopped" and i did nothing to stop it. What is wrong?
[05:30] <RussellAlan> "An error occurred while accessing 'Volume (vfat)', the system responded: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.InterfaceLocked: The enclosing drive for the volume is locked
[05:30] <shai> When I start X application in Gnome (My chosen XDM), the menus are just fine in relation to their font size. When I start those same applications later, on my Windows machine using SSH + X11 Forwarding, the menus fonts are very tiny and I can beraly make the words for them... I was hoping maybe there is a way to change that... can someon tell me how?
[05:30] <shane2peru> jasmuz: hmm, what was the output of sudo dpkg --purge urd
[05:30] <tone_red> joeb3_, thanks, I'll look into ipsec-tool
[05:31] <RussellAlan> Ahh, it was cause Gparted was trying to access it I suppose, I closed GPartred and i could access the volume.
[05:31] <jasmuz> shane2peru, gimme a sec
[05:31] <chu_> Why is it all of a sudden I have to recompile my own kernel?
[05:31] <PCTeacher012> Hey, I just installed Ubutnu 9.04, for the... 3rd time i think. Been a while. But my problem currently is i am trying to get an online radio to work: www.sosradio.net but every time it opens the radio, it says "starting", then "Streaming", then "Stopped" and i did nothing to stop it. What is wrong?
[05:31] <chu_> Jesus this is frustrating now.
[05:32] <jasmuz> shane2peru, just reinstalled the package via dpkg, then fixed the dependencies via apt-get install -f
[05:32] <agoole> PCTeacher012: let me try the radio, see if it works for me
[05:32] <huston> well you could just reinstall the palm os devices program couldn't you prapp193?
[05:32] <PCTeacher012> Thank agoole. The website it www.sosradio.net just click listen live
[05:32] <PCTeacher012> I've installed all the plugins it asked me to install
[05:32] <shane2peru> jasmuz: ok, where did you save the deb file?
[05:32] <shane2peru> jasmuz: Desktop?
[05:32] <jasmuz> shane2peru, yea
[05:33] <shane2peru> jasmuz: cd ~/Desktop
[05:33] <chu_> I shouldn't have tried to do this madwifi shit.
[05:33] <chu_> Bugger
[05:33] <darksmac> any one have any luck setting up a l4d server
[05:33] <jasmuz> shane2peru, just tried to remove the whole thing with sudo aptitude purge urd -y and it borked again
[05:33] <shane2peru> jasmuz: sudo dpkg -i urd(tab)
[05:33] <offwithx11> anyone know if editing the /etc/default-display-manager will stop X11 from starting in Ubuntu?
[05:33] <jasmuz> shane2peru, that is what i did!
[05:33] <shane2peru> jasmuz: it isn't going to let you do anything till it is installed,
[05:34] <shane2peru> jasmuz: did that help?
[05:34] <shane2peru> !language | chu
[05:34] <jasmuz> shane2peru, that installs it right.. but wont let me purge it
[05:34] <agoole> PCTeacher012: well, doesn't work for me either, looks like its a windows only stream,
[05:34] <shane2peru> jasmuz: so now it is installed?
[05:35] <shane2peru> jasmuz: I think we are going to have to remove it with dpkg too
[05:35] <PCTeacher012> agoole: So no way i could run it on linux?
[05:35] <jasmuz> shane2peru, gimme the low down then
[05:35] <shane2peru> jasmuz: sudo dpkg --purge urd
[05:35] <agoole> PCTeacher012: well, let me take a look at the code for the website
[05:35] <PCTeacher012> agoole: Thanks. keep me updated
[05:35] <offwithx11> PCTeacher012: did you try winehq.org (wine package)
[05:35] <PCTeacher012> offwithx11: No, but this isnt for a program
[05:35] <shane2peru> jasmuz: sounds like a poorly formed package
[05:36] <jasmuz> shane2peru, it borked..
[05:36] <shane2peru> jasmuz: can you post the output in pastebin
[05:36] <shane2peru> !pastebin | jasmuz
[05:36] <donnybrasco> harisund: I can't find xrandr and don't seem to have it installed
[05:36] <donnybrasco> can't find it in adept
[05:37] <donnybrasco> only grandr
[05:37] <chu_> "FATALFATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[05:37] <offwithx11> anyone know about editing the /etc/default-display-manager file; will that stop X11 from starting in Ubuntu?
[05:37] <chu_> What does that error mean?
[05:37] <shane2peru> jasmuz: or you can try: sudo dpkg --remove urd
[05:37] <offwithx11> harisund: try 'apt-cache search xrand' in terminal
[05:37] <jasmuz> shane2peru, http://paste.ubuntu.com/283499/
[05:37] <lstarnes> chu_: it means that you don't have the module for ndiswrapper
[05:38] <harisund> donnybrasco, that's odd
[05:38] <harisund> donnybrasco, I just did dpkg -S `which xrandr` and it tells me xrandr is a part of the package "x11-xserver-utils
[05:38] <jasmuz> shane2peru, that won't work either
[05:38] <harisund> Do you have x11-xserver-utils package installed on your system? (or you could try installing that)
[05:38] <shane2peru> jasmuz: wow, that is one sticky package
[05:38] <lstarnes> chu_: it should be available in one of the packages related to ndiswrapper
[05:39] <harisund> offwithx11, what are you trying to do? You want to stop X11 from loading?
[05:39] <jasmuz> shane2peru, yes.. im almost going crazy over it
[05:39] <chu_> Yeah, if I have ndiswrapper installed, wouldn't I have ndiswrapper module installed?
[05:39] <donnybrasco> harisund: I'm going to just try editing my xorg.conf first
[05:39] <offwithx11> harisund: yes, by default without uninstallation
[05:39] <nanotube> jasmuz: what is the error message that you're getting when you try to apt-get remove it?
[05:40] <harisund> donnybrasco, what are you editing in your xorg.conf?
[05:40] <harisund> and offwithx11 you can stop GDM from running on boot time
[05:40] <chu_> Mmm, there is an apt-get ndiswrapper-modules file I might not have
[05:40] <shane2peru> jasmuz: ok, lets do this: sudo echo "conf" > /etc/apache2/conf.d/urd.conf
[05:40] <seede> hi all, can i get a hand with a weird one - rdiff-backup seems to have borked its backup directory. in short i can't see files there anymore. eg ls -ld gives drwx------ 91 me me 4096 2009-10-02 12:03 .  i can cd to directories that i know are there but i can't display them
[05:40] <shane2peru> jasmuz: that will create the missing conf file and then we can try to purge it again
[05:40] <donnybrasco> harisund: I was going to try adding a rotation line under monitor
[05:41] <offwithx11> harisund: will commenting that file /etc/X11/default-display-manager clear the X11 from starting by default?
[05:41] <seede> ive tried chmod -R 755, nothing
[05:41] <PCTeacher012> Well, im updating ubuntu, and going to bed, high school is in the morning :p so night all
[05:41] <shane2peru> jasmuz: it appears it is not being removed because of the missing file.
[05:41] <jasmuz> shane2peru, just created the file.. im about to purge it again
[05:41] <donnybrasco> harisund: I have two monitors running
[05:41] <harisund> donnybrasco, hmm all right try and see if that works, I know xrandr is the way to rotate screens so if your editing doens't we will try something else
[05:41] <harisund> donnybrasco, ouch now it gets more interesting
[05:41] <Misko> Hey, I'm new to Java programming I was wondering if any of you guys could answer me a quick question
[05:41] <donnybrasco> harisund: yeah- and I only want one of them rotated :)
[05:41] <harisund> offwithx11, I do not know, you can try though .. what's the worst that could happen
[05:42] <offwithx11> harisund: not much, ok, thanks
[05:42] <PCTeacher012> Misko, i can try, but im not too well at java programming
[05:42] <offwithx11> Misko, you can also try #java
[05:42] <jasmuz> shane2peru, Yay!! that seems worked!!!
[05:42] <harisund> donnybrasco, yeah .. have you just tried using gnome-display-properties? normally that would tell you if it has ended up identifying everything
[05:43] <Misko> I cant get into #java
[05:43] <Misko> Anyways
[05:43] <RussellAlan> Can anyone help me with GParted? I can't view my media card.
[05:43] <shane2peru> jasmuz: great, run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:43] <lstarnes> Misko: you need a registered/verified nick in order to join there
[05:43] <donnybrasco> I'm on kde
[05:43] <jasmuz> shane2peru, just did.. im already fecthing updates.
[05:43] <shane2peru> jasmuz: if that works, then everything should be fixed
[05:43] <harisund> hmm what's the KDE equivalent one sec
[05:43] <prappl93> How do I stop something from running when I start up Ubuntu
[05:43] <jasmuz> shane2peru, thanks man, for the hand.
[05:43] <Jd`away> Hi, is there a counterpart for FARmanager on linux?..any software to access the filesystem of a Se mobile phone?
[05:44] <shane2peru> jasmuz: no prob, glad we got rid of that weed!
[05:44] <computerquip> Morning.
[05:44] <lstarnes> prappl93: sudo update-rc.d -f servicename remove
[05:44] <jasmuz> Jd`away, if you have bluetooth on the phone, you can mount it
[05:44] <harisund> prappl93, what are you talking about in particular?
[05:44] <prappl93> lstarnes: I don't know the "service name" its the Palm OS Devices thing... it keeps popping up
[05:44] <chu_> Apparantly there's an update-modules command, but I don't know the syntax, anyone here have any experience?
[05:44] <jasmuz> shane2peru, :D
[05:44] <Jd`away> no, that would just give me access to the phone memory contents.. i want to flash the filesystem..
[05:44] <computerquip> Wondering if I could get a quick tip. My update mirror is SLOW and as a result I want to change it. Any clue how?
[05:44] <prappl93> harisund, the Palm OS Devices thing pops up on system start up
[05:45] <fez> why is KDE on ubuntu so "k"rappy
[05:45] <donnybrasco> harisund: thanks, restarting my xserver - brb
[05:45] <jasmuz> Jd`away, then don't bet on flashing it on a gnu/linux platform
[05:45] <abbyz> this is really _really_ bugging me. i have installed mozplugger and using evince to open pdf documents within firefox. but when i open a pdf, evince opens up and says "permission denied" when trying to open the pdf.
[05:45] <te> computerquip: open up syanptic sources, change your server from united states to Other
[05:45] <celthunder> fez so don't use kde then
[05:45] <te> computerquip: then click the button to search for the fastest server
[05:45] <computerquip> kk
[05:45] <te> let that run
[05:45] <Jd`away> hm..
[05:45] <te> and then click okay
[05:45] <te> i had the same problem today
[05:45] <te> so fucking slow
[05:45] <FloodBot1> te: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:45] <RussellAlan> Can anyone help with Gparted? It isn't recognizing my media card.
[05:45] <computerquip> ... Is the default Japan?
[05:45] <PCTeacher012> night all, goin to bed lolz High school in the morning :P
[05:45] <RussellAlan> Or what is a fast formatting solution?
[05:46] <harisund> prappl93, I think it's called pilot something
[05:46] <te> !language | te
[05:46] <offwithx11> te: you can try a torrent program, such as apt-p2p or debtorrent
[05:46] <Jd`away> is there a channel for midnight commander on here?
[05:46] <harisund> prappl93, do one thing, in a terminal do ls /etc/init.d/ | grep *pilot* ?
[05:46] <te> offwithx11: why would i do that?
[05:46] <offwithx11> te: if the mirrors are going too slow, you can torrent the updates (faster sometimes)
[05:46] <te> yeah that's a good idea i guess
[05:46] <prappl93> harisund, what does ? mean?
[05:46] <te> but just changing to a faster server got me back to 6MB down
[05:46] <te> :)
[05:47] <harisund> prappl93, are you familiar with using the command line?
[05:47] <prappl93> Somewhat, but I am newish with Ubuntu still
[05:48] <ByTeWalkeR> hi all. i have nvidia geforce 9100 but i cant get it worknig.. envy says everything is not compatible :(
[05:48] <prappl93> harisund, somewhat, but I am still newish with Ubuntu
[05:48] <harisund> prappl93, see the "Palm OS device support thingy" that pops up is called gnome-pilot or something, and I think the service is gpilotd
[05:48] <RussellAlan> lstarnes: will you help me?
[05:48] <harisund> prappl93,which Ubuntu are you using? 9.04?
[05:48] <stargate> I was setting up my new install of ubuntu 9.04 and decided after setting everything up that I wanted to change my username and computer name.  I was going to refer to post 8 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64021 for the username part unless there is a better suggestion, and I am still looking for how to change the computer name.  Thanks in advance.
[05:48] <lstarnes> RussellAlan: I don't know how to resolve that issue. sorry
[05:48] <prappl93> harisund, yes. Its gpilotd
[05:49] <prappl93> harisund, what was the command to stop it from loading at start up again?
[05:49] <harisund> prappl93, so basically you need to stop the gpilotd service from running
[05:49] <harisund> prappl93, somebody put it up earlier, let me scroll back hang on
[05:49] <harisund> lstarnes put it up .. sudo update-rc.d gpilotd -f remove
[05:50] <harisund> prappl93, what you could do is install some application like "bum" and use it to stop gpilotd and other services from loading at startup time
[05:50] <prappl93> harisund, I did that and got this: "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gpilotd: file does not exist"
[05:51] <harisund> prappl93, how did you find out it was gpilotd/
[05:51] <harisund> I mean, it could be under a different name
[05:51] <prappl93> I typed gpilotd into terminal and it ran the thing, I don't know, but thats the App name
[05:51] <harisund> prappl93, ok are you familiar with the terminal? Can you type a command out
[05:51] <prappl93> Probably
[05:53] <harisund> prappl93, by the way, do you want that software? I guess you could just uninstall the software if you don't use Palm Pilot PDA devicxes
[05:53] <ClayG> What is the easiest way to fix grub? I installed xp and couldn't get to ubuntu after, I tried supergrub which allowed me to get into ubuntu but then it doesn't let me select os's and now I can't get into xp, what is the easiest way be able to see the screen whre you pick os's ?
[05:53] <prappl93> harisund, sort of but not really... could I do a sudo apt-get remove gpilotd and then a sudo apt-get install gpilotd and that should fix it?
[05:53] <harisund> The name of the software by the way is gnome-pilot
[05:54] <harisund> So you could do sudo apt-get --purge remove gnome-pilot if you want to be totally rid of it
[05:54] <harisund> I don't think it installs any service, since I don't see anything in /etc/init.d that could be related to this. Does this start when you login to the desktop?
[05:54] <chu_> I should apparantly have a /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/ndiswrapper.ko but /lib/modules/`uname -r` only has 3 directories, initrd, kernel and updates.
[05:54] <ClayG> I thought there is a built in boot loader editor gui?
[05:54] <chu_> Am I looking in the wrong place?
[05:55] <prappl93> Yes. I just uninstalled it then reinstalling it right now... I will see if it fixed it by logging out then back in
[05:55] <prappl93> harisund, brb
[05:56] <prappl93> harisund, what was the command to purge it again?
[05:56] <harisund> prappl93, sudo apt-get --purge remove gnome-pilot
[05:56] <stargate> clayg, I actually had that issue earlier,  I ended up giving up and just wiped my ubuntu install, grub2 has builtin grub rescue features though.
[05:56] <Gamex> help me pls
[05:56] <agliodbs> ubutu doesn't automount USB drives?
[05:57] <prappl93> harisund, so if I were to reinstall those it would be similar to on Windows uninstalling it entirely then reinstalling it new?
[05:57] <ByTeWalkeR> i have nvidia geforce 9100.. why cant envy find the right driver?
[05:57] <Gamex> i cant use webcam on kopete
[05:57] <harisund> Technically yeah
[05:57] <harisund> you could then do sudo apt-get install gnome-pilot
[05:57] <ClayG> stargate: can i just install grub2?
[05:57] <Gamex> pls pm me
[05:57] <prappl93> So that *should* fix the problem?
[05:57] <chu_> Ok, so I don't have a misc dir in /lib/modules/2.6.30/ where would I find the equivalent then?
[05:57] <harisund> prappl93, only difference being unlike windows you can do it in 2 commands instead of a bunch of "next" "next" "next" clicks
[05:58] <computerquip> The software sources screen seems to be frozen. Is it processing something?
[05:58] <wrektjet> hey guys. my system just froze. how should i restart x next time?
[05:58] <prappl93> harisund, let me log out again and back in and see if the purge then reinstall works.
[05:58] <harisund> prappl93, let me knwo if it did
[05:58] <ClayG> stargate: it's too bad, it would be kind of handy to have a program that goes "We found these os's on your OS, select the ones you'd like to choose from when your computer starts" and you do, and then it's fixed.
[05:58] <agliodbs> really, I just plugged in a usb drive to my ubuntu machine
[05:58] <stargate> clayg, not sure.  you can also attempt to reinstall grub via ubuntu live cd,  i personally had no luck with that
[05:58] <harisund> prappl93, if not there are some other stuff we can try
[05:58] <agliodbs> and I need to manually mount it?
[05:59] <stargate> hehe, well there are plenty, it's just whether they work, especially from windows, clayg
[05:59] <ClayG> stargate: I'm in ubuntu now.
[05:59] <ClayG> stargate: I just need something that will let me get back into windows
[05:59] <prappl93> harisund, no luck... is there a possibility this is set up to launch on the root account so all subsequent accounts will launch it?
[06:00] <harisund> prappl93, ok what exactly is happening when you login?
[06:00] <harisund> prappl93, are you getting an error message, or is a software application starting up or ..?
[06:00] <ClayG> stargate: I could have sworn in past distro version I was able to edit grub in a gui from ubuntu but I can't find it now.
[06:00] <stargate> clayg, oh i'msorry, i thought you meant you could only access windows and not ubuntu, not the other way around
[06:00] <chu_> Sweet new error now, this is progress!
[06:00] <prappl93> harisund, the computer loads the fact that I have the black cursor selected then the gnome-pilot shows up.
[06:00] <ClayG> stargate: at first yes, but I got supergrub which now makes it only go into ubuntu lol
[06:00] <donnybrasco> harisund: that didn't work
[06:00] <agliodbs> hmmm, I see the issue
[06:00] <ClayG> stargate:  do you know of a way inside ubuntu to fix it gui style?
[06:01] <agliodbs> how do I format a USBdrive in ubuntu?
[06:01] <harisund> donnybrasco, one second let me get back to you
[06:01] <donnybrasco> harisund: do you think running my second monitor as a separate xserver would help
[06:01] <stargate> clayg, i don't gui-wise, but i remember reading online how to re-add windows via terminal if that happens
[06:01] <kuttans> agliodbs use gparted to do that
[06:01] <stargate> clayg, give me a second to look it up
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> agliodbs: Same as any other drive, with your partitioning/formatting tool of choice.  I like gparted for graphical jobs.
[06:01] <harisund> donnybrasco, here's a link to get you started, i will get back to you in a second http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1056225
[06:01] <donnybrasco> harisund: thanks
[06:02] <agliodbs> tonyyarusso: and for non-graphical?
[06:02] <harisund> now prappl93
[06:02] <harisund> prappl93, let's do one thing .. are you running gnome?
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> agliodbs: cfdisk
[06:02] <wrektjet> guys, what can one do if ubuntu freezes? is therera  way not to lose your work?
[06:02] <prappl93> harisund, yes
[06:02] <ninjaII> hello :)
[06:03] <agliodbs> ooooh
[06:03] <ninjaII> so quiet in here
[06:03] <agliodbs> cfdisk didn't like that drive
[06:03] <ninjaII> this isn't normal :P
[06:03] <harisund> prappl93, ok in System -> Preferences -> Startup applicatino
[06:03] <harisund> prappl93, do you see anything pilot related?
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> agliodbs: uh oh, what happened?
[06:03] <agliodbs> n
[06:03] <prappl93> harisund, not at all
[06:03] <agliodbs> Warning!!  Unsupported GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected. Use GNU Parted.
[06:04] <stargate> clayg, my system is all wonky atm, but i recall seeing an article on google when searching "reinstall grub after windows"
[06:04] <stargate> clayg, I'll be back as soon as i reboot.
[06:04] <harisund> prappl93, ok what about output of stuff like "pstree" or "top" or "ps ax" do you see anything listed pilot related?
[06:04] <ClayG> stargate: I'll check it out, thanks
[06:04] <harisund> prappl93, basically I am trying to find out what application is running, then we can figure out a way to stop it
[06:04] <agliodbs> gparted is a GUI tool, though, yes?
[06:05] <prappl93> harisund, none of those appear
[06:05] <harisund> donnybrasco, any luck? Are you able to configure each monitor to its correct resolution? Is your ubuntu able to identify the 2 monitors? How do you know that?
[06:05] <RussellAlan> yes agliodbs
[06:05] <agliodbs> :-(
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> agliodbs: Intriguing.  Well, there's gparted and there's parted - parted is GNU parted, and gparted is the GNOME frontend - confusing I know.
[06:06] <chu_> Gah!
[06:06] <chu_> Horrible.
[06:06] <donnybrasco> harisund: yes - the res is fine ... used kdesudo nvidia-settings to edit xorg.conf file - my problem lies with having my second monitor rotated
[06:06] <prappl93> harisund, so, should I just restart my computer and use one of the things in the GRUB menu to redo my system? I forgot what its called...
[06:07] <harisund> donnybrasco, you said when you typed "xrandr" in a terminal it said noo such command found?
[06:07] <donnybrasco> yes
[06:07] <harisund> prappl93, I am not sure I understand what you are talking about .. there's something you can do in Grub menu that redoes your system? oO
[06:07] <prappl93> harisund, from what I read them as, yeah... but I am probably sadly mistaken
[06:07] <harisund> donnybrasco, let's try installing x11-xserver-utils package
[06:08] <eminor> recovery mode?
[06:08] <chu_> ndiswrapper's web-site is incredibly difficult to navigate, is there an installation tutorial there? (the INSTALL text in this ndiswrapper tarball just says go to the web-site for build instructions, but then the site just re-directs me to the homepage and I can't find anything from there)
[06:08] <donnybrasco> harisund: when I ran grandr, though, the rotation options were disabled
[06:09] <harisund> donnybrasco, that's probably because the rotation was disabled .. you need to enable rotation in xorg.conf
[06:09] <agliodbs> tonyyarusso: there isn't anything more user-friendly than parted?
[06:09] <prappl93> harisund, I think I am just going to leave it uninstalled...
[06:09] <harisund> donnybrasco, you need to add the line ---> Option "RandRRotation" "true"<-- to the Display section in your xorg.conf
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> agliodbs: Well, you could probably use the other tool anyway, but I'm not sure what that error means, so doing what it says is probably safest.
[06:10] <harisund> prappl93, I just searched for all packages that have pilot as a part of them, and there seem to be 3 packages gnome-pilot, gnome-pilot-conduits and libgone-pilot2 .. maybe you could try purging all 3 of them first
[06:10] <harisund> prappl93, actually that seems like a bad idea .. are you running evolution?
[06:11] <agliodbs> tonyyarusso: yeah, I'm just looking for a shortcut for "use the whole disk"
[06:11] <prappl93> Not right now
[06:11] <agliodbs> which parted doesn't appear to have
[06:11] <prappl93> It said it couldn't find libgone-pilot2
[06:11] <harisund> donnybrasco, did you get what I was talking about, the line in xorg.conf? That line must be there for rotation
[06:11] <harisund> prappl93, libgome-pilot2 .. it seems to have some dependencies with evolution
[06:12] <prappl93> Oh
[06:12] <prappl93> So, if I remove that then reinstall it it should be okay though right?
[06:12] <prappl93> Or would I have to redo my Evolution all together?
[06:13] <nonix4> Why would mouse plugged through an usb hub (monitor) refuse to work after being unplugged for a day along with the keyboard plugged to the same hub? Xorg.0.log does list proper-looking detection when plugging it in. Works if plugged in through any other usb port.
[06:13] <ultralazer> Just installed ubuntu.  Wonders if there is a way to force xorg-server to rely upon manually configured xorg.con
[06:13] <donnybrasco> harisund: I was just checking on the X11-xserver-utils ... it's already installed
[06:13] <ultralazer> ^ xorg.conf
[06:13] <harisund> x11-xserver-utils is already installed then xrandr should be installed since xrandr is a part of that package donnybrasco ... .. your /usr/bin doesn't have a xrandr in it?
[06:14] <harisund> prappl93, when you remove the packages it will give you a list of what else it is removing
[06:14] <harisund> prappl93, make a list of all that and reinstalll everything that was removed
[06:14] <agliodbs> like, particularly, how do I guess the number for END for mkpartfs?
[06:14] <prappl93> harisund, that will remove all of evolution... so, okay
[06:15] <seidos> when should someone use canonical's paid support?
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> agliodbs: Usually there's something that tells you the total number somewhere...
[06:15] <harisund> I think it removes the packages evolution, evolution-plugins, evolution-exchange, evolution-indicator so you should be able to add those back and be on the safe side
[06:15] <agliodbs> I can't find anything
[06:15] <chu_> Argh!! trying to make this ndiswrapper package, "*** CFLAGS was changed in <filename>"
[06:15] <chu_> Argh
[06:15] <agliodbs> I know this is about a 500G drive
[06:15] <chu_> What's this error telling me?
[06:15] <agliodbs> but how do I figure out the exact size?
[06:16] <lizzzy> Hi! So, I'm manually configuring my IP. How do I know what's my prefix??
[06:16] <harisund> donnybrasco, could you find xrandr in your /usr/bin?
[06:16] <donnybrasco> harisund: yes xrandr is in /usr/bin
[06:16]  * cybic is still looking for a hint, where to configurate my trackpoint on hp nc6400
[06:16] <agliodbs> lizzzy: prefix?
[06:17] <harisund> donnybrasco, ok that's a start .. now rotation is done through xrandr, that much I know. Have you enabled that line in xorg.conf Option "RandRRotation" "true"
[06:17] <lizzzy> Yeah, in manual config. it asks for my address, then prefix and then gateway. Is the prefix 255.255.255.0 by any chance? But it doesn't seem to accept that.
[06:17] <vadviktor> Anybody who feels he is good at virtualization, help me to choose: xen or kvm? I only want it to use as a portable server workspace for my web development enviroment.
[06:17] <Brando753> is there a way to set up vnc to allow me to turn on and/or login to my computer?
[06:18] <chu_> Mmm
[06:18] <Debolaz> vadviktor: KVM.
[06:18] <nanotube> lizzzy: the proper name for that is "netmask"... and it depends on the IP you're setting...
[06:18] <donnybrasco> harisund: I don't have a 'Display' section - only two 'Montitor' sections
[06:18] <agliodbs> lizzzy: what are you editing?
[06:18] <Debolaz> vadviktor: If have the hardware support, there's no reason to not prefer KVM over Xen.
[06:18] <nanotube> lizzzy: but for a regular "local network" it does tend to be 255.255.255.0
[06:18] <harisund> Not 'display' sorry I think it should be "device"
[06:19] <prappl93> harisund, I will see if purging all that then reinstalling worked
[06:19] <agliodbs> anyone?  surely there must be some way to check the capacity of a raw device
[06:19] <harisund> prappl93, allright we can try that for a start
[06:19] <chu_>  *** CFLAGS was changed in "/home/chu/Downloads/AR928X/ndiswrapper-1.2/driver/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS.  Stop.
[06:19] <chu_> Whoops, anyway, what does that error say?
[06:19] <lizzzy> Wireless --> edit network connections --> IP address --> Method: Manual
[06:19] <vadviktor> Debolaz: I actually do not have AMD-V on every machine I wish to use it on, and I would like to choose a free virtualization where I can run a 64bit ubuntu guest with 2 or more cores
[06:20] <donnybrasco> harisund: here's my xorg.conf file ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/283515/
[06:20] <nanotube> agliodbs: run "sudo fdisk -l" among its output you'll find the total capacity of the physical disk
[06:20] <harisund> donnybrasco, one sec
[06:20] <prappl93> No such luch, HardDisk
[06:20] <prappl93> harisund,
[06:20] <Debolaz> vadviktor: Lack of hardware support excludes KVM as an alternative.
[06:20] <lizzzy> Here, I'm trying to manually set my IP. I know what's a netmask. But it didn't ask for my netmask, rather a prefix!
[06:20] <prappl93> I have to go to bed, I have school tomorrow, so if you have a link or series of links to possible solutions, I wouldn't mind you to send me them
[06:20] <prappl93> Or you could e-mail them to me
[06:21] <vadviktor> Debolaz: :( and is Xen as good as KVM if it comes to easy install and maintenance?
[06:21] <Debolaz> vadviktor: No, Xen is considerably more complex.
[06:21] <harisund> prappl93, all right good luck and sorry man
[06:21] <harisund> donnybrasco, one sec
[06:21] <Debolaz> vadviktor: However, it is well documented.
[06:21] <nanotube> lizzzy: this is in the networkmanager applet?
[06:21] <lizzzy> yup
[06:22] <vadviktor> Debolaz: should I install it from ubuntu repo or shall I choose to compile it from source as it is more up-to-date?
[06:22] <lizzzy> network mgmt --> wireless --> edit netwk connections
[06:22] <zruty> draft
[06:23] <harisund> donnybrasco, do you see the line Option "NoLogo" "True"
[06:23] <Debolaz> vadviktor: Ubuntu dropped host (Technically dom0) support for Xen in releases after hardy, fyi.
[06:23] <donnybrasco> harisund: yes
[06:23] <harisund> Right underneath that add a line that says --> Option "RandRRotation" "True"
[06:23] <harisund> The same way as the previous line is
[06:23] <donnybrasco> harisund: ok
[06:24] <murlidhar> okiez hi all ......... i messed up something and i don't see firefox in update-alternatives .... how do i bring it back to get firefox opened for the command x-www-browser ?
[06:24] <Debolaz> vadviktor: If end up going with Xen, you want this book btw: http://runningxen.com/
[06:24] <harisund> So you have an identifier line, you have a driver line, and you have 2 Option lines .. get what I am saying?
[06:24] <nanotube> lizzzy: aha, in that case... read this: http://www.gadgetwiz.com/network/netmask.html
[06:24] <donnybrasco> yep
[06:25] <maurer_> Anyone know of any D&D character sheet software that works in linux?
[06:25] <vadviktor> Debolaz: then I guess it's up to me to compile it
[06:25] <donnybrasco> harisund: saved it - gonna try restarting xserver - brb
[06:25] <maurer_> Under windows I've used "HeroForge", but their code isn't OO.o compatible
[06:25] <harisund> http://paste.ubuntu.com/283519/
[06:25] <harisund> donnybrasco, one sec
[06:25] <donnybrasco> k
[06:25] <harisund> You need to add that to both lines
[06:25] <lizzzy> Thanks muchly nanotube :)
[06:25] <nanotube> lizzzy: for the standard class-c 255.255.255.0, try prefix 24
[06:25] <harisund> donnybrasco, look at the one I put
[06:25] <agliodbs> seems to work, thanks
[06:25] <nanotube> lizzzy: no prob :)
[06:25] <lizzzy> Kewl!
[06:25] <vadviktor> Debolaz: thank you for your kind information!
[06:25] <agliodbs> feh
[06:25] <nanotube> agliodbs: ?
[06:26] <Debolaz> vadviktor: Np.
[06:26] <agliodbs> since when did 477MB == 500GB?
[06:26] <nanotube> agliodbs: probably its 477GB == 500GiB :)
[06:26] <agliodbs> yeah
[06:26] <nonix4> chu_: it says you're trying to do something that could be done simpler, I guess...
[06:26] <agliodbs> cheaters
[06:27] <nanotube> agliodbs: and it's since hard drive manufacturers decided that they'll count 1000 bytes per megabyte instead of 1024.
[06:27] <nanotube> agliodbs: the martetroid who came up with that one ought to be stuffed.
[06:27] <mysteriousdarren> y is that?
[06:27] <nanotube> agliodbs: *marketroid
[06:27]  * DigitalKiwi thinks it is ingenious
[06:27] <agliodbs> anyway, when I get this thing formatted ext2, will it automount?
[06:27] <donnybrasco> harisund: how's this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/283520/
[06:28] <nanotube> agliodbs: ehrm... if you stick it into your fstab, it will :)
[06:28] <agliodbs> ah
[06:28] <DigitalKiwi> why are you making a 500GB drive ext2?
[06:28] <agliodbs> hmmmph
[06:28] <agliodbs> DigitalKiwi: parted doesn't support ext3?
[06:28] <harisund> donnybrasco, if I am not mistaken the t in True should be capitalized, since it is capitalized in the line above
[06:28] <DigitalKiwi> wut
[06:28] <harisund> and donnybrasco you might also need to add it in the second device section, under BoardName  "GeForce Go 6150"
[06:29] <DigitalKiwi> i hope you don't intend to keep it ext2
[06:29] <MadSeaDog> hi folks i'm looking for a good sound editer... something that can easily remove voice...
[06:29] <eminor> agliodbs, ext3 is ext2 with journal, look for a -j option or something :-)
[06:29] <DigitalKiwi> hi bruenig
[06:29] <MadSeaDog> any ideas?
[06:29] <donnybrasco> harisund: ok - will do
[06:29] <bruenig> greet
[06:29] <Flannel> murlidhar: You can use --set
[06:29] <nanotube> agliodbs: see here: http://www.gadgetwiz.com/network/netmask.html
[06:29] <Nitrodist> how do I get back to regular user after going to root from a shell
[06:29] <nanotube> agliodbs: wrong link
[06:29] <nanotube> agliodbs: i mean here: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/sysadmin-guide/s1-parted-create-part.html
[06:29] <harisund> Nitrodist, type exit
[06:29] <agliodbs> feh, time for bed
[06:30] <nanotube> agliodbs: in other words... use mkpart to make ext3 partitions
[06:30] <nanotube> agliodbs: same here... dunno wtf i'm still doing here
[06:30] <murlidhar> Flannel: err u mean sudo update-alternatives --set /usr/bin/firefox-3.0 ?
[06:30] <Nitrodist> thx harisund
[06:30] <agliodbs> nanotube: thanks, man pages are out of date
[06:30] <murlidhar> Flannel: :)
[06:30] <agliodbs> nanotube: anyway, bed and will restart this in the am
[06:30] <Flannel> murlidhar: --set x-www-browser /path/to/whaever
[06:31] <donnybrasco> harisund: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283523/
[06:31] <nanotube> agliodbs: sweet dreams
[06:31] <murlidhar> Flannel: ah okies thanks :)
[06:31] <donnybrasco> harisund: how's that look?
[06:31] <harisund> donnybrasco, yeah seems better. Try restart X all together and see if grandr allows anything?
[06:32] <dragon1> What'd be a good bluetooth remote software to operate media player on linux using a symbian device?
[06:32] <donnybrasco> ok - brb
[06:32] <murlidhar> Flannel: update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/bin/firefox'.
[06:33] <agliodbs> nanotube: No Implementation: Support for creating ext3 file systems is not implemented yet.
[06:33] <xoveruk> does anyone know of a public ssh server that i can tunnel my HTTP requests through? facebook is blocked on this router.
[06:33] <murlidhar> Flannel: the path is absolutely correct
[06:34] <Flannel> murlidhar: Oh, sorry, it's --install, and there's some other stuff you set (it's self explanatory, check the man page)
[06:34] <chu_> There s nothing more tedious than Wireless in Linux; is there?
[06:34] <nanotube> agliodbs: hrm....
[06:34] <DigitalKiwi> "my school/work wants me to be productive (shame on them) please help me bypass this"
[06:34] <nanotube> xoveruk: try shellium.org, maybe...
[06:34] <murlidhar> Flannel: i tried that too
[06:34] <nanotube> agliodbs: well, if you're not tied to the cli, i know that gparted can easily to ext3
[06:34] <harisund> chu_ yeah Wireless in Windows :D But if you are talking about Linux, I would say graphics in Linux or media playback in Linux both of which can get to be hard
[06:35] <DigitalKiwi> chu_: buy intel, it just works (tm)
[06:35] <donnybrasco> harisund: still no rotation options in grandr
[06:35] <agliodbs> nanotube: yeah, this is a headless machine and currently has no X on it
[06:35] <agliodbs> nanotube: I'd like to keep it that way
[06:36] <harisund> donnybrasco, I found http://ut2004.titaninternet.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=17533 this link that explains that you have to use xinerama for dual head and xrandr for rotation
[06:36] <nanotube> well, i'm off to bed... can try looking around tomorrow.
[06:36] <harisund> Let's try using xrandr on the command line .. one sec
[06:36] <nanotube> agliodbs: well, i'm off to bed... can try looking around tomorrow.
[06:36] <chu_> Hopefully I will be back.
[06:36] <agliodbs> good idea
[06:36] <donnybrasco> harisund: what do you think about adding that line under section "Montitor" identifier "Configured Monitor"?
[06:37] <Nitrodist> how do I change the write permissions on a directory/
[06:37] <harisund> donnybrasco, no you need to enable Rotation under the graphics card device. If you want, create a backup of the xorg.conf file and try it out. If something goes wrong, just go back to the back up
[06:37] <Nitrodist> bah, nevermind I'll just look it up :P
[06:37] <Madpilot> Nitrodist, in the file manager, right-click on the directory, choose Permissions
[06:37] <Nitrodist> Madpilot, need command line
[06:38] <eminor> man chmod
[06:38] <Madpilot> Nitrodist, chmod
[06:38] <DigitalKiwi> chown or chmod -R depending on how you want to change permissions...
[06:38] <Madpilot> ya, what eminor said
[06:38] <harisund> donnybrasco, in the command line what is the output of xrandr -q ? Can you paste it somewhere?
[06:38] <Nitrodist> what's -R do? recursive?
[06:38] <Madpilot> yes
[06:38] <Madpilot> but "man chown" is where to start
[06:38] <Nitrodist> chown? I don't need clam chowder
[06:38] <Madpilot> man chmod, raither
[06:38] <Nitrodist> or clowns
[06:38] <DigitalKiwi> both are possibly correct >.>
[06:39] <harisund> Nitrodist, I think recursive yes
[06:39] <chu_> Oh noes! :(
[06:39] <Nitrodist> indeed chu_
[06:39] <chu_> I'm probably just going to give up shortly.
[06:39] <Nitrodist> great news everyone!
[06:40] <donnybrasco> harisund: nothing happens when xrandr -q entered
[06:40] <DigitalKiwi> you just saved a bunch of money on car insurance by switching to geico?
[06:40] <harisund> You don't get any output at all ???
[06:41] <donnybrasco> harisund: correct
[06:41] <murlidhar> Flannel: made it thanks :)
[06:41] <harisund> You are running that when the xserver is running, right?
[06:41] <donnybrasco> harisund: as when I just enter xrandr
[06:41] <donnybrasco> harisund: yes
[06:42] <harisund> hmm that is really odd, xrandr tells you what monitors are connected if X is running, so if xrandr is telling you there are no monitors  whatsoever then there seems to be another problem
[06:42] <donnybrasco> harisund: you're asking me to run that from a command line, not the terminal, right?
[06:43] <harisund> How do you differentiate the two?
[06:43] <harisund> In any case, open up the terminal, what's it on KDE? Or just open xterm and type it in that
[06:43] <donnybrasco> command line is alt+F2
[06:43] <harisund> sorry I guess I must have made myself clearer
[06:43] <harisund> oh no no no
[06:43] <harisund> I meant terminal all along sorry sorry
[06:44] <Brando753> is there a way to set up vnc to allow me to turn on and/or login to my computer?
[06:44] <chu_> There should be dedicated wireless specialists!!!
[06:44] <harisund> Brando753, VNC won't do that. VNC can onlly show you an already logged into machine
[06:44] <donnybrasco> harisund: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283532/
[06:45] <DigitalKiwi> chu_: what's your problem? i haven't seen you ask any questions
[06:45] <Brando753> harisund: so there is no whay to log into to a computer via vnc, my windows pc allows me to do that
[06:45] <seidos> chu_: do you have $54?
[06:45] <harisund> Brando753, if you are already logged into the machine you want to VNC into, you can do that just like in Windows
[06:45] <seidos> well, how should I ask it?  pm me
[06:46] <mgmuscari> hey, i'm in a big pickle... i think my hard disk may be failing. i'm in the middle of recovering things, and am trying to create a bootable USB drive, but can't run the usb-creator utility because my root fs has remounted in RO mode
[06:46] <harisund> donnybrasco, what are your individual screen resolutions? Is 2560 the sum of them?
[06:46] <seidos> !paid
[06:46] <seidos> !support
[06:46] <mgmuscari> i can't get it to remount in rw mode, tried clearing the RO flag on the device using several commands including blockdev, etc
[06:46] <donnybrasco> harisund: yeah - 1280x800 (primary, laptop) 1280x1024 (secondary lcd)
[06:46] <mgmuscari> so i'm stuck right now with a RO root fs
[06:47] <mgmuscari> i'm managed to back up all my important stuff to my NAS
[06:47] <harisund> donnybrasco, ah this gets interesting .. so basically your machine sees the 2 monitors as "1 BIG screen" instead of "2 screens" so that's the first problem we need to fix
[06:47] <mgmuscari> how do i manually set up a usb flash drive to throw an ubuntu image on it? the tutorials i've found all deal with either windows programs or the ubuntu usb-creator utility which i can't run for some reason with a RO fs...
[06:48] <harisund> donnybrasco, in your terminal try typing "xrandr -o right" and see what happens?
[06:48] <xoveruk> nanotube: does it support SSH?
[06:48] <xoveruk> i need to connect to it via SSH, looks like its just a remote shell via web browser right?
[06:49] <dragon> !info anyremote
[06:49] <mgmuscari> i'm in a pickle here guys, i need to get this image on this usb disk so that i can try wiping this extended partition and see if creating new ones will bring my disk back to life :/
[06:49] <elliottcable> Hey all. Uh. Trying to get some kernel modules out of an Ubuntu AMI on EC2 (long story…), but they’re not there.
[06:50] <ricky21tom> j
[06:50] <elliottcable> /lib/modules is empty, /lib/modules/2.6.31-300-ec2 doesn’t exist.
[06:50] <dragon> !usb | mgmuscari
[06:50] <harisund> donnybrasco, any luck with xrandr -o right ?
[06:50] <donnybrasco> harisund: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283536/
[06:50] <mgmuscari> dragon: i've been there already, their instructions don't seem to be useful in my situation
[06:50] <harisund> ah
[06:50] <eminor> mgmuscari, have you tried unetbootin?
[06:50] <dragon> mgmuscari: are you trying to create a bootable USB?
[06:51] <mgmuscari> yes
[06:51] <mgmuscari> here are my constraints:
[06:51]  * YoMama hugs ubottu
[06:51] <dragon> !info usb-creator | mgmuscari
[06:51] <chu_>  /quit
[06:51] <chu_> exit
[06:51] <harisund> That error happens when RandRRotation is not enabled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. you sure you have added Option "RandRRotation" "true" right? As in, added it as root, saved it as root etc etc .. you are sure it is not overwritten?
[06:51] <mgmuscari> i am constrained to working on a hosed ubuntu installation, with my root filesystem mounted in read only mode, and no way to recover r/w access
[06:51] <dragon> mgmuscari: this tool works perfectly in most situations.
[06:51] <mgmuscari> dragon: i just stated that usb-creator won't run when / is in read only mode...
[06:52] <dragon> mgmuscari: use a second box?
[06:52] <mgmuscari> and i can't get the read only flag to clear on my disk
[06:52] <mgmuscari> don't have one available...
[06:52] <dragon> mgmuscari: got dual boot?
[06:52] <mgmuscari> not working...
[06:52] <mgmuscari> my partition table seems to be completely screwed
[06:52] <harisund> donnybrasco, one sec, that error is common while using xrandr let me  re check to be sure. Meanwhile your /etc/X11/xorg.conf definitely has Option "RandRRotation" "true" right ?
[06:52] <blunder> ok now
[06:52] <mgmuscari> i had a DSL linux that no longer boots
[06:52] <mgmuscari> windows no longer boots...
[06:52] <dragon> mgmuscari: that sucks.
[06:53] <mgmuscari> i have an ubuntu live cd here that's giving me block device errors when i try to use it
[06:53] <dragon> anyone knows how to use "anyremote"?
[06:53] <elliottcable> Anybody know where I can get the kernel modules for an Ubuntu EC2 AMI?
[06:53] <elliottcable> there are none shipped with it, /lib/modules is empty…
[06:53] <mgmuscari> f, i really hope i don't have a failing SCSI controller or something
[06:53] <donnybrasco> harisund: that's right, I just saw someone else use "RandRRotation" "on"
[06:54] <harisund> hmm try that
[06:54] <mgmuscari> so what do i have to do to make a usb stick bootable... partition it and set the boot flag?
[06:54] <mgmuscari> do i need to put a bootloader on it? isolinux or something?
[06:54] <mgmuscari> can i just throw the ubuntu iso on there?
[06:54] <harisund> donnybrasco, what is your depth set to? 24?
[06:54] <harisund> donnybrasco, (sorry I missed your pastebin of your xorg.conf)
[06:54] <donnybrasco> harisund: yes
[06:55] <donnybrasco> no worries
[06:55] <fogel_> hi!!
[06:55] <mgmuscari> isolinux
[06:55] <sky__> can you tell me how install opera on ubuntu 9.04?
[06:55] <mgmuscari> maybe syslinux
[06:55] <donnybrasco> harisund: check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=976120
[06:55] <chu_> Another failed attempt :(
[06:55] <dragon> !opera | sky__
[06:56] <ninjaII> :)
[06:56] <eminor> mgmuscari, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-from-usb-stick.html
[06:56] <fogel_> i need some help to guidelines to configure a webpage for a proxy
 thanks
[06:56] <harisund> donnybrasco, looks like they did it to their monitor section .. we  should maybe try that too
[06:56] <mgmuscari> eminor: thanks
[06:56] <dragon> !welcome | sky__
[06:57] <fogel_> i ve hear about webmin but iimnot so sure
[06:57] <dragon> !webmin | fogel_
[06:57] <fogel_> :o
[06:57] <elad`> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=408OfAJu3Y8 - is this really what I'll get if I install 9.10 now?
[06:57] <chu_> If I didn't have ndiswrapper installed, how would Ubuntu be dealing with wireless networks?
[06:57] <fogel_> ebox??
[06:58] <fogel_> is a packet?!?
[06:58] <lstarnes> fogel_: poackage
[06:58] <lstarnes> *package
[06:58] <fogel_> sorry!!
[06:58] <dragon> !ebox | fogel_
[06:58] <fogel_> ebox is a package!?
[06:58] <gorkster> mgmuscari: are you able to remount the filesystem rw once you are booted? like a mount -o rw,remount / (not sure of the exact syntax)
[06:58] <harisund> donnybrasco, I am sorry man I think I need to get to sleep .. I wish I could help, but I am sure rotation is done by xrandr .. so you will have just to play around with the Option "RandRRotation" stuff in xorg.conf .. kind of like try various combinations and see if rotation works
[06:59] <mgmuscari> gorkster: already tried that, won't do it
[06:59] <lstarnes> fogel_: yes, it is a package
[06:59]  * cybic is still looking for a hint, where to configurate my trackpoint on hp nc6400, ubuntu 9.04#
[06:59] <mgmuscari> gorkster: it also doesn't seem to respond to resetting the flags on the block device itself
[06:59] <lstarnes> fogel_: in the future, if you don't know if something is a package, use aptitude show name-of-thing
[06:59] <mgmuscari> this laptop is less than a year old... maybe i should just ask lenovo to send me a new hard disk
[06:59] <lstarnes> fogel_: like aptitude show ebox
[06:59] <donnybrasco> harisund: no worries - thanks very much for all your help
[07:00] <donnybrasco> I think that last link I sent you looks promising
[07:00] <dragon> mgmuscari: have heard of several lenovos with crashed disks. it's a common problem
[07:00] <mgmuscari> i really hope that this just has to do with changing some partitions the other day
[07:00] <fogel_> thanks lstarnes!!
[07:00] <chu_> There's all this refernce to having a wireless driver available in Hardware Drivers, if I don't see this wireless driver, what are possible reasons??
[07:00] <mgmuscari> dragon: yeah, this just seems so sudden. no errors for 10 months, and then in one day epic crash
[07:00] <gorkster> mgmuscari: i would say that the disk is suspect, but if you were messing with partitions that could be it too
[07:01] <mgmuscari> dragon: i've been messing with my partitions for the past few days, i suspect it's related
[07:01] <fogel_> i really feel like a newbie when i get support from this channel!! but always works! :D
[07:01] <mgmuscari> gorkster: yeah... i treat this thing with kid gloves, i don't know why it would be the disk
[07:01] <mgmuscari> no noises or anything
[07:01] <mgmuscari> i also saw block device errors booting from an ubuntu live cd
[07:01] <eXeC001er> Hello!
[07:02] <mgmuscari> i looked up that error though, it it appeared to be a scsi driver related -
[07:02] <mgmuscari> oh
[07:02] <mgmuscari> jesus
[07:02] <elliottcable> Anybody? |-:
[07:02] <mgmuscari> i changed my sata mode in my bios to compatibility mode yesterday
[07:02] <mgmuscari> to get my DSL partition to boot
[07:02] <elad`> How secure is Ubuntu One?
[07:03] <eminor> mgmuscari, you could check the smart-values of your hard drive
[07:03] <gorkster> mgmuscari: that could do it.  any interesting info from an fsck?
[07:03] <mgmuscari> eminor: that stuff's somewhere in /proc/, but i don't remember where it usually is
[07:03] <mgmuscari> gorkster: just lots of multiply owned inodes that keep cropping up, other things
[07:03] <powertool08> Do you have to give a user execute permission to be able to read a samba share? When I chmod a folder from 655 to 654, the guest(non-authenticating) can't see the files any more.
[07:03] <mgmuscari> i have a few ext3 partitions and a few ext4
[07:04] <mgmuscari> bad journals
[07:04] <eminor> mgmuscari, you need the package smartmontools and then use smartctl
[07:04] <adrian__> adek
[07:04] <adrian__> hello
[07:04] <mgmuscari> well, if that's not already installed, then i guess i can't do that
[07:04] <mgmuscari> ah, nope
[07:04] <adrian__> czaęć
[07:04] <mgmuscari> well
[07:04] <mgmuscari> maybe if it puts it in /usr...
[07:05] <mgmuscari> i think that may still be mounted rw
[07:05] <citra> ghk;l;l
[07:05] <adrian__> thy you spik english
[07:05] <eminor> mgmuscari, does the howto not work for you?
[07:05] <mgmuscari> ah, nope, can't install anything
[07:05] <mgmuscari> howto for flash drive?
[07:05] <adrian__> my a poland
[07:05] <citra> vhhgkk
[07:05] <adrian__> polish
[07:05] <mgmuscari> i'm working on copying stuff from the iso to the flash drive now
[07:05] <cjones> how do i update my drvers agter switching from onboard to an ati x600 pro
[07:05] <mgmuscari> then i'll set up a bootloader on it...
[07:05] <eXeC001er> I build package "dpkg-buildpackage -sa" and after finish process *.dsc and *.changes files are empty.
[07:05] <eminor> what do you need to install for this?
[07:06] <mgmuscari> smartmontools to check my hdd smart status
[07:06] <eXeC001er> why?
[07:06] <chu_> o, I have this error, and apparantly the fix is to compil my own ndiswrapper.so file, however, I cannot for the life of me find anything regarding *how* to install the bloody thing.
[07:06] <eminor> no, i mean the link i gave you to prepare yur stick with ubuntu
[07:06] <eminor> +o
[07:06] <mgmuscari> eminor: yeah i'm following that
[07:07] <eminor> yes, do this before to have a working system
[07:07] <eminor> and then check your drive :)
[07:09] <Prajjwal> quick question .... is it better to install Ubuntu in a ext2 or ext3 ???
[07:09] <cjones> how do i update my drvers agter switching from onboard to an ati x600 pro
[07:09] <gorkster> Prajjwal: ext3 journaling is a good thing
[07:10] <Prajjwal> thnx ...
[07:10] <mgmuscari> augh
[07:10] <mgmuscari> firefox blew up because the fs is read only
[07:10] <mgmuscari> now i can't get initrd.gz or vmlinuz...
[07:10] <mgmuscari> i'm lucky i got the iso before / went down...
[07:11] <mgmuscari> well i'm boned now
[07:13] <mgmuscari> ugh
[07:13] <mgmuscari> brb...
[07:13] <cjones> how do i update my drvers agter switching from onboard to an ati x600 pro
[07:13] <BB_> when updating i'm having a problem connecting to ecurity.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.37)
[07:13] <SoldierNIX> I just switched over from Vista to Ubuntu, and I took all my Zune music with, but I cant play them with the DRM. Is their a linux program to strip the Zune marketplace DRM?
[07:13] <BB_> sorry - security.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.37)
[07:14] <cjones> is there any help here tonight or what ?
[07:15] <chu_> It doesn't seem to be very active, but there is help occaisonally.
[07:15] <widget2343> sup all
[07:15] <leaf-sheep> cjones: There are ongoing help in this channel all times -- However, the traffic may vary according to moods, time, day/night, etc. That's called variables! :)
[07:16] <prince_jammys> !ati | cjones
[07:16] <chu_> So, I'm pretty sure I have royally screwed my system :(
[07:17] <Boohbah> cjones: what is your onboard card?
[07:17] <Boohbah> chu_: how did you do that?
[07:18] <chu_> I have no idea, which makes the problem even worse.
[07:18]  * elliottcable sighs
[07:18] <chu_> But, in an attempt to fix a problem I have no idea what it was, I'm sure my many fixes.
[07:18] <elliottcable> Maybe if I ask my question in a more generic form:
[07:18] <elliottcable> How do I get kernel modules in Ubuntu?
[07:20] <leaf-sheep> !kernel | elliottcable
[07:21] <BB_> when updating i'm having a problem connecting to security.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.37) - what should i do?
[07:22] <stargate> God is it nice to have my ubuntu up and running nice and smooth ^_^  time to screw it up now... anyone have any resources in pam for ubuntu?
[07:22] <lstarnes> BB_: what problem exactly?
[07:23] <Boohbah> BB_: i had a brief lag when resolving security.ubuntu.com - appears to be a DNS issue
[07:23] <elliottcable> leaf-sheep: wasn’t helpful, didn’t have any information about the modules )-:
[07:23] <eminor> elliottcable, your question was too generic :)
[07:23] <leaf-sheep> elliottcable: Err, I'd try search engines if I were you.
[07:23] <elliottcable> eminor: dammit! I just genericized it d-:
[07:24] <chu_> Ok, so... ndiswrapper -l returns a device! Using this information, can I do *anything* though?
[07:24] <elliottcable> leaf-sheep: have done, can’t figure out why the AMI I’m using doesn’t ship with modules
[07:24] <BB_> Boohbah: lstarnes: if i use the update manager it will get stuck then say there's something wrong with that address, and now from the terminal i get E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:24] <BB_> E: Unable to lock the list director
[07:24] <elliottcable> leaf-sheep: thought maybe it was some weird Ubuntu thing where you don’t provide kernel modules with your AMIs… no idea, really. Hence why I’m in here
[07:24] <leaf-sheep> BB_: I experienced some packet loss when pinging security.ubuntu.com -- Just a thought
[07:24] <lstarnes> !aptfix | BB_
[07:25] <Boohbah> BB_: the latter error is because update-manager has locked the apt db
[07:25] <Boohbah> BB_: the first error depends on your local DNS resolver configuration
[07:26] <leaf-sheep> elliottcable: If you know what modules you need to use, you can add them manually.  There always are something that got overlooked.
[07:26] <elliottcable> leaf-sheep: nope, trying to yank the pre–built modules out of this for my own AMIs
[07:26] <elliottcable> leaf-sheep: problem is that… well, they’re not there o_O
[07:26] <chris062689> I could really use your help guys.
[07:26] <chu_> With the ndiswrapper gtk tool, there's an option to configure networks, however, when I press it I get an error message which says "Could not find network configuration tool"
[07:26] <chu_> What tool is it looking for?
[07:27] <chris062689> I recently installed from a LIVECD, the internet was working perfectly, but upon rebooting into the installed system, my Network Manager says "Unavailable" and the internet connection isn't there.
[07:29]  * nonix4 ponders what ndiswrapper would be needed for, when actual drivers are available...
[07:29] <mgmuscari1> ok, i managed to clean up my root FS enough using fsck at a maintenance shell to get it to mount RW on reboot
[07:29] <chris062689> can someone please help me?  :(
[07:29] <mgmuscari1> im trying to use usb-creator, and when i select my .iso, it tells me: "This is not a desktop install CD and thus cannot be used by this application"
[07:30] <mgmuscari1> so... any thoughts?
[07:31] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari1: I'm betting the ISO you selected is not a desktop install CD and thus cannot be used by this application.
[07:31] <n8tuser> chris062689 -> paste your /etc/network/interfaces file
[07:31] <n8tuser> in pastebin
[07:31] <elad`> How do I set up 5.1?
[07:31] <mgmuscari1> "ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso"
[07:31] <TheMusicGuy> Hey, I need some help with bzr. I'm trying to keep a directory on my flash drive in sync with a file on my hard drive AND in sync with an online repo via ftp.
[07:31] <TheMusicGuy> I can't figure out how.
[07:31] <mgmuscari1> eminor: you still here? any thoughts?
[07:31] <chris062689> n8tuser:  It's blank.
[07:32] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari1: Run this in the terminal --> "md5sum ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso"
[07:32] <n8tuser> chris062689 -> thats the reason,  man interfaces to get more explanation
[07:32] <chris062689> I'm using ARCH though....
[07:32] <mgmuscari1> !checksum
[07:32] <mgmuscari1> !md5 9.04
[07:32] <leaf-sheep> !md5sum | mgmuscari1
[07:32] <mgmuscari1> ugh what's the checksum for 9.04
[07:33] <BB_> lstarnes: Boohbah that command doesn't help. i dunno why
[07:33] <mgmuscari1> i have the md5 hash, just need to check it against something else now...
[07:33] <alazyworkaholic> is there any way to overclock an intel graphics chip with ubuntu?
[07:33] <BB_> should i just restart?
[07:33] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[07:33] <chu_> *Sigh* 5 hours, and nothing.
[07:33] <mgmuscari1> leaf-sheep: thanks
[07:33] <chu_> Jesus this is really driving me crazy now.
[07:34] <mgmuscari1> fantastic, different md5
[07:34] <mgmuscari1> so my filesystem is buggy enough that my iso is corrupted...
[07:34] <mgmuscari1> i guess i'll download it to my NAS
[07:34] <mgmuscari1> f
[07:34] <mgmuscari1> actually
[07:34] <mgmuscari1> i can't connect to that and be online at the same time
[07:35] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari1: You downloaded the ISO recently?
[07:35] <mgmuscari1> about an hour ago
[07:35] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari1: Then the download was likely to be corrupted when you downloaded that.
[07:36] <mgmuscari1> leaf-sheep: i dunno if you were here about 15 minutes ago to hear what's going on with me... my filesystems are all throwing up errors all over the place
[07:36] <leaf-sheep> I see.
[07:36] <DuckGod> how do i make my desktop into the full rotating cube?
[07:36] <mgmuscari1> so i'm guessing that the iso is corrupted on disk
[07:36] <mgmuscari1> hm
[07:36] <leaf-sheep> !cube | DuckGod
[07:36] <mgmuscari1> i'll download to this usb drive here
[07:37] <mgmuscari1> then connect to the other network with the NAS on it
[07:37] <mgmuscari1> transfer it to the NAS
[07:37] <mgmuscari1> wipe the flash drive
[07:37] <mgmuscari1> and then make the boot stick...
[07:37] <DuckGod> ty
[07:37] <omeddragon> why is my synaptic package manager downloading packages so slow this day i use to download 1.2 mb per seccon
[07:38] <mgmuscari1> omeddragon: your internet has swine flu
[07:38] <mgmuscari1> omeddragon: seriously though, probably just some congestion somewhere along the path between you and the repos
[07:38] <ActionParsnip1> omeddragon: maybe your provider is performing upgrades / changes
[07:38] <ninjaII> omeddragon : could be realated to where it pulls from.  Depending on where you live, various third-parties are used
[07:38] <leaf-sheep> omeddragon: Servers may be experiencing traffic hits or mirroring new packages since Karmic Beta came out yesterday but that's just my guess!
[07:38] <ninjaII> yay!
[07:39] <ninjaII> :)
[07:39] <mgmuscari1> omeddragon: leaf-sheep <- or what he said
[07:39] <ninjaII> plus i wrote some kernel code for that one :) !!!
[07:39] <ninjaII> 32 lines of awesomeness :)
[07:39] <ninjaII> ;p;
[07:39] <mgmuscari1> i should start doing that
[07:39] <ActionParsnip1> ninjaII: nice :D
[07:39] <omeddragon> no my internet is fine i can downlaod anything from the internet with 1.2 mb and vidios are runing fast so why is that
[07:39] <ActionParsnip1> omeddragon: its also the day after the beta, so everyone will be hammering the servers
[07:39] <mgmuscari1> omeddragon: the internet isn't one big machine. your connections to various places go along many different routes
[07:40] <Flannel> omeddragon: The beta for the next version of Ubuntu was released today, and alot of people are downloading it, making some servers slow.
[07:40] <mgmuscari1> omeddragon: somewhere along the line there's congestion. sounds like it's probable that the congestion is at the server end itself
[07:40] <ninjaII> omeddragon: if you want, you can try changing your ubuntu mirror that sources.lst uses; it's your choice
[07:40] <omeddragon> oh ok thx
[07:40] <leaf-sheep> omeddragon: Try "ping -c 5 security.ubuntu.com" -- See if it came back 100%. :)
[07:40] <mgmuscari1> reminds me of a paper i read once about internet holes
[07:41] <ninjaII> the internet has holes?
[07:41] <mgmuscari1> ninjaII: yes! all over the place
[07:41] <omeddragon> lol
[07:41] <ninjaII> =D
[07:41] <mgmuscari1> ninjaII: the internet is a series of leaky tubes
[07:41] <ninjaII> lol Senator Ted Stevens at his best
[07:41] <DigitalKiwi> it starts with a goat and ends with a se...*shudder*
[07:42] <ActionParsnip1> well, some of the infrastructure is quite ancient
[07:42] <mgmuscari1> here's a random news article about it:
[07:42] <DigitalKiwi> don't look that up if you don't know what it is >.>
[07:42] <mgmuscari1> ugh
[07:42] <mgmuscari1> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24067737/
[07:42] <mgmuscari1> there
[07:42] <mgmuscari1> firefox went unresponsive for a second... i feel like i'm sitting on top of a volcano with this laptop right now in terms of reliability...
[07:43] <ninjaII> Connections... consumers... massive commercial purposes.  Big truck -> long distance.  It's TUBES!  Angular Tubes!  N those tubes can be filled... and if they're filled!  The Internet; is going to be delayed!
[07:43] <mgmuscari1> ActionParsnip1: at&t uses 10,000,000 old handset modems to connect europe to america
[07:44] <ActionParsnip1> mgmuscari1: probably having a cry, it does that
[07:44] <ninjaII> mgmuscari1: are you using linux kernel 2.6.28?
[07:44] <mgmuscari1> yes
[07:44] <mgmuscari1> 2.6.28-15
[07:44] <ninjaII> there's a problem in 2.6.28-2.6.30 with userspace swap/paging... it delays stuff unnecessarily long when your ram is full
[07:45] <mgmuscari1> 4gb ram here...
[07:45] <ninjaII> (that problem gets fixed in 2.6.31(
[07:45] <ninjaII> ooo hehe
[07:45] <ninjaII> guess you shouldn't see it :P
[07:45] <mgmuscari1> again i'm betting it's my wonky partition table
[07:45] <ActionParsnip1> full ram. wow crazy
[07:45] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari1: You're a big baller running 4GB ram. :)
[07:45] <mgmuscari1> and/or filesystems
[07:45] <mgmuscari1> lol
[07:45] <didar> hello there good people of ubuntu
[07:45] <darksmac> hola
[07:46] <mgmuscari1> leaf-sheep: well that doesn't mean jack if my filesystems keep crashing like this...
[07:46] <didar> I have shot myself in the foot... need medic
[07:46] <mgmuscari1> it's a thinkpad w500 and this disk shouldn't have anything wrong with it :/
[07:46] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | didar
[07:46] <leaf-sheep> didar: Then why are you in here asking for linux support when you should go to hospital to get your foot treated?
[07:47] <didar> ok, ActionParsnip just give the output of `groups'
[07:47] <ninjaII> mgmuscari1: firefox a lot of times can depend on your firefox plugins... those can be pretty intensive sometimes; if you want smoother (for the time being until they fix those issues), consider opera.. i've heard nothing but good news
[07:47] <didar> leaf-sheep, that was a metaphor
[07:47] <mgmuscari1> ninjaII: at the moment i'm logged in as root, so there are no plugins :p
[07:47] <ninjaII> mgmuscari1: you can also try changing the amound of memory that firefox uses to cache content
[07:47] <mgmuscari1> my /home is long-gone...
[07:48] <leaf-sheep> didar: I know. ;3
[07:48] <mgmuscari1> i'm lucky that i can still mostly read / and /usr
[07:48] <didar> I need the output of `groups' from an xterm/gnome-terminal
[07:48] <didar> leaf-sheep, could you help me out here
[07:48] <mgmuscari1> what do you mean you need the output
[07:49] <leaf-sheep> didar: We don't even know your problem yet!
[07:49] <leaf-sheep> !ask | didar
[07:49] <alazyworkaholic> If intel's graphics drivers for linux are open source, shouldn't there be a way to overclock them? I found something that claims to work for any OS, but it's nagware & doesn't work for 64 bit. Anybody know of anything?
[07:49] <mgmuscari1> beware, we're all fairly pedantic people in here
[07:49] <didar> leaf-sheep, I have botched the default group memberships of my primary account
[07:49] <mgmuscari1> alazyworkaholic: why would OSS imply overclocking?
[07:50] <didar> leaf-sheep, that is the user that gets created during installaiotn
[07:50] <navysealltblue> I installed the ati catalyst center via the synaptic package manager gui, and now when i boot, i get a mass of crazy nonsense.  I started up in recovery mode and went to termie,  I'd appreciate help in what commands i need to type to remove that package
[07:50] <mgmuscari1> didar, try these groups: didar adm dialout cdrom audio video plugdev lpadmin netdev admin
[07:50] <ninjaII> alazyworkaholic: if the card has dynamic clocking or dynamic voltage via software control (as in, built and made accessible to the software by the hardware)... then software can overclock it or underclock it - provided that such software is written that way
[07:50] <mgmuscari1> i also have sambashare and tomcat6 but you probably don't need those...
[07:51] <leaf-sheep> didar: Make a new user -- Record the default group memberships.  Each user have various groups according to packages they installed so I'm refraining myself from giving you mine -- because I have many groups. ;o
[07:51] <didar> mgmuscari1, thats what I was looking for, thanks a ton
[07:51] <mgmuscari1> didar: some of those might not apply, but i guess it doesn't hurt to have extra groups...
[07:51] <alazyworkaholic> mgmuscari1: Not certain, I'm not a developer. I imagine that if the good people who make the driver have all the info necessary to make it work correctly, they ought to be able to flip whatever switch would overclock it.
[07:51] <googler> hello
[07:51] <ndlovu> hi all. are there any guides for using an ubuntu liveCD to recover files from a crashed ntfs filesystem?
[07:51] <jerknextdoor> i've got a file on my desktop that i can't see in nautilus and can't sudo rm.  any ideas?
[07:51] <leaf-sheep> !recovery | ndlovu
[07:52] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: Err. That is not it.
[07:52] <mgmuscari1> alazyworkaholic: just because the driver is OSS doesn't mean they have the info necessary to do it. case in point: OSS ati driver developers trying to get info from ati...
[07:52] <didar> leaf-sheep, good idea that too, thanks
[07:52] <googler> i am installing gnom-ppp its give an error package not find !
[07:52] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, thanks, but the system that needs to be recovered is windows :)
[07:52] <_ruben> !info gnome-ppp
[07:53] <mgmuscari1> ndlovu you need to have the ntfs drivers loaded, and then you need to mount the ntfs filesystem
[07:53] <leaf-sheep> !undelete | ndlovu
[07:53] <mgmuscari1> ndlovu: i'd probably mount it in read only mode if i were you
[07:53] <googler> i am installing gnom-ppp its give an error package not find !
[07:53] <ndlovu> mgmuscari1, gparted says filesystem is unknown...
[07:53] <googler> i am using ubuntu 7.10
[07:54] <leaf-sheep> googler: It is a typo and Ubuntu 7.10 is no longer supported.
[07:54] <ndlovu> mgmuscari1, so I'm not sure that it would mount?
[07:54] <chu_> Nothing at all.
[07:54] <mgmuscari1> ndlovu: then you don't have the ntfs driver installed... i don't recall the package name, but i can't really look it up for you right now as i'm dealing with borked ext3/ext4 filesystems at the moment...
[07:54] <_ruben> googler: 7.10 is no longer supported
[07:54] <ActionParsnip1> !7.10
[07:54] <leaf-sheep> !gutsy | googler
[07:54] <googler> :(
[07:54] <navysealltblue> is there a way to output what packages are installed?
[07:54] <ndlovu> mgmuscari1, thanks for the suggestion, and I feel your pain
[07:54] <mgmuscari1> dpkg -l i think?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip1> navysealltblue: dpkg -l | less
[07:54] <googler> ohh no
[07:54] <googler> :(
[07:54] <chu_> If I didn't have ndiswrapper installed, what would Ubuntu be using to manage a wireless network?
[07:54] <googler> bad luck
[07:55] <navysealltblue> thanks mgmuscari1 and actionparsnip1
[07:55] <mgmuscari1> ActionParsnip1: i disagree. i think it's dpkg | more
[07:55] <alazyworkaholic> ninjall: not sure if it would have dynamic clocking or not. I get this from lshw: product: product: Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller. Clock 33MHz.
[07:55] <leaf-sheep> googler: We're at 9.04 right now.  9.10 in a month. :)
[07:55] <ninjaII> brb
[07:55] <ct529> hi! I have a list of blocked update in my update manager, and they have now been there for 2 weeks ....
[07:55] <leaf-sheep> googler: Why are you behind? Catch up with us!
[07:55] <googler> :( but i don't have so much bandwoth to download it
[07:55] <ct529> what are those blocked updates
[07:55] <chu_> I hope Karmic supports my f&^%ing wireless card....
[07:55] <ct529> ?
[07:56] <mgmuscari1> chu_: ndiswrapper?
[07:56] <googler> *bandwith
[07:56] <alazyworkaholic> mgmuscari1: huh. Okay, I thought Intel was quite open about their stuff. I read that even the ati people were satisfied with the docs, they just didn't have enough people to write the driver.
[07:56] <chu_> If I didn't have ndiswrapper installed, what would Ubuntu be using to manage a wireless network?
[07:56] <googler> sorry for typo
[07:56] <Madpilot> chu_, you have a wireless card that can f&^%? You'll never have to buy another - it can just breed the next generation of card for you! :)
[07:56] <googler> i don't have so much banwith to download 9.10
[07:56] <mgmuscari1> alazyworkaholic: i got bored waiting for dri2 support on my ati card a long time ago and stopped paying attention
[07:56] <googler> :((
[07:56] <googler> bad luck
[07:57] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: if there is no driver for your card then ndiswrapper is needed
[07:57] <mgmuscari1> iwconfig --f&^%?
[07:57] <mgmuscari1> ok
[07:57] <leaf-sheep> googler: You could request for Ubuntu CD.
[07:57] <alazyworkaholic> ninjall: so as far as you know there's no way to overclock an intel gma?
[07:57] <googler> how ?
[07:57] <mgmuscari1> i have to disappear to put this thing on my NAS and make a live usb stick now...
[07:57] <mgmuscari1> thanks all
[07:57] <Madpilot> googler, just after 9.10 is released, free CDs will be available - shipit.ubuntu.com
[07:57] <mgmuscari1> back later, maybe...
[07:57] <leaf-sheep> !shipit | googler
[07:57] <chu_> Apparantly the ath5k package is supplied with Ubuntu by default since Jaunty, which is the driver my card needs.
[07:57] <googler> :D
[07:58] <leaf-sheep> googler: Wait until next month? Karmic comes out in a month. :)
[07:58] <mgmuscari1> hmmm, is this still working? !test
[07:58] <alazyworkaholic> mgmuscari1: I have a 4670 w/ catalyst. Doesn't give me any problems, but phoronix tells me oss 2d is way faster.
[07:58] <googler> :D hip hip hurray ::
[07:59] <_ruben> you wont be able to upgrade from 7.10 to 9.10 directly though, either reinstall or upgrade 7.10 -> 8.04 -> 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10
[07:59] <chu_> So like, what are other available solutions?
[07:59] <chu_> I tried looking at madwifi, but perhaps that was just a bad choice.
[07:59] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: could compile the latest driver, see if its better
[08:00] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: madwifi is great if your chip is supported by it
[08:00] <chu_> I have tried, perhaps I just don't know how though...
[08:00] <DigitalKiwi> _ruben: that's ridiculously stupid...this is why i can't live with anything but rolling release
[08:01] <navysealltblue> anyone able to tell me what packages are installed for the ati catalyst control center?   I scrolled through the list of packages down to the end of the libs and am gonna go crazy :P
[08:01] <chu_> I started trying to compile my own driver for ndiswrapper, but I couldn't get passed the make process (i.e. wouldn't let me make) and there was nothing as far as what I could do.
[08:01] <ndlovu> trying ntfsmount /dev/sda1 /media/win but it gives "Couldn't mount device '/dev/sda1' : Invalid argument" GParted can see /dev/sda1 though... any ideas?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/185/install-atheros-ar242x-802-11abg-wireless-driver-in-ubuntu
[08:02] <_ruben> DigitalKiwi: the same applies to most operating systems i am aware of
[08:02] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: can you tab complete my name at the start of sentances, the highlighting I am doing for the text I am addressing to you isnt an accident
[08:02] <chu_> ActionParsnip1: thanks man, just reading this tutorial now.
[08:03] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: np man, it says for a specific chip but madwifi is madwifi
[08:03] <DigitalKiwi> _ruben: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release
[08:04] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, thanks for the undelete advice, there's some good stuff there
[08:04] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: No problem. Good Luck! :3
[08:05] <ct529> DigitalKiwi: _ruben: http://nixos.org/ talking about rolling release
[08:06] <chu_> ActionParsnip1: you legend, it's working!
[08:06]  * DigitalKiwi has pacman not sure i need that ;p looks interesting though
[08:06] <chu_> ActionParsnip1: I spent so long today looking for solutions... Thanks heaps for your 5 minutes :p
[08:07] <diieggo> Hello, i need help!
[08:07] <ct529> DigitalKiwi: :) .... I was just suggesting to look at it because it looks interesting .... what is pacman btw?
[08:07] <diieggo> I have this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283583/
[08:07] <DigitalKiwi> package manager developed by/for arch linux
[08:08] <chu_> Ok, reboot time.
[08:08] <chu_> Thanks again ActionParsnip1.
[08:08] <ct529> DigitalKiwi: are you using arch?
[08:09] <DigitalKiwi> deli linux uses it as well as a few others, and frugalware forked it, and  yes i am
[08:09] <inspiron630> what virtual machine do you guys use to run windows? vmware? or is there something better now
[08:09] <DigitalKiwi> virtualbox
[08:09] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: there is no better or best
[08:09] <ct529> DigitalKiwi: it is supposed to be quite performant .... how does it compare to ubuntu?
[08:09] <samuel> hi anyone tried installing vdr on ubuntu?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: each has advantages and disadvantages, so neither is outright better
[08:10] <ct529> inspiron630: depends what do you want to do really
[08:10] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: try a few solutions, see which provides what you need and use that one
[08:10] <ct529> inspiron630: what do you want to do?
[08:11] <navysealltblue> hallelujah!
[08:11] <DigitalKiwi> ct529: they serve different userbases, it performs very well though
[08:11] <inspiron630> i want to have a simulation as close to the real thing as possible. since i will be doing programming, assembly, etc...
[08:11] <ct529> DigitalKiwi: what do you mean? what are the userbases for the two of thme?
[08:11] <inspiron630> and maybe a game here and there
[08:12] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: they both do that, qemu has raw cpu access rather than a virtualised cpu
[08:12] <ct529> inspiron630: yes, but you have to explain what would your setup be ....
[08:12] <chu_> Absolutely no change.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: not sure about 3d games, 2d games run fine
[08:12] <chu_> Still nothing under Hardware Drivers.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: you wont, madwifi IS the driver
[08:12] <ct529> inspiron630: are you starting a ubuntu desktop with gnome and you want to run a virtual machine on a window whilst running linux software? or do you want a different setup?
[08:13] <inspiron630> i'm running kubuntu and will want to emulate xp, vista and windows 7
[08:13] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: bit expensive
[08:14] <bullgard4> I called Empathy > Help > Debug. A window "Debug Window" opened. The mouse cursor changed to a vertical arrow pointing to a horizontal area. I can move the cursor. Clicking it on any button does not have an effect. Ctrl+Alt+F1 does not call a virtual console. Is Alt+PrtSc+K the only way out?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip1> thats a lot of licenses
[08:14] <DigitalKiwi> ct529: well ubuntu is targeted at people who want stuff preconfigured and any level of linux experience, arch is targeted at people with more experience not afraid of configuring stuff, neither is inherently good or bad, it just depends on what you want
[08:14] <inspiron630> free for me, academic alliance
[08:14] <kruykaze> my network manager is not saving manual configuration
[08:14] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: nice
[08:14] <ct529> DigitalKiwi: only talking about pure performances here
[08:14] <inspiron630> :)
[08:14] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: vista and 7, strange
[08:15] <diieggo> whats? http://paste.ubuntu.com/283583/
[08:15] <ct529> inspiron630: in a window on your desktop?
[08:15] <chu_> ActionParsnip: What do you mean? madwifi is the driver?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: have you installed video driverss?
[08:15] <chu_> So, I won't see it under Hardware Drivers?
[08:15] <anodesni> I have a separate X screen setup with nvidia 7600gt card. I don't want my mouse to leave the screen unless I press some specific key(-combination), is this possible?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: madwifi is a driver pack
[08:16] <diieggo> ActionParsnip1 no, i first on ubuntu
[08:16] <DigitalKiwi> pure performance arch probably is better...
[08:16] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: you will need to sudo rmmod ndiswrapper then probe in the driver you just made
[08:16] <kruykaze> can anyone help me with my network manager?
[08:16] <chu_> Ahahaha
[08:16] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: looks like thay are needed
[08:16] <chu_> Legend :p
[08:16] <chu_> How do I know what driver I just made?
[08:16] <chu_> I guess sudo rmmod will remove all the ndis modules?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: check the guide I gave you again
[08:17] <chu_> Yeah, sorry, rebooted.. Have you still got a link?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: yes but they will load next boot, so if all this works you will need to make the system changes to not load ndiswrapper and load the one you just create
[08:17] <ct529> guys, I need to know why are those updates blocked .... they have been blocked for 2 weeks now .... it drives me insane!
[08:17] <chu_> Yeah, I just added ndiswrapper to modprobe.d's blacklist?
[08:17] <chu_> ActionParsnip1, will that be enough?
[08:18] <kruykaze> am I using an invisible font?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[08:18] <diieggo> ActionParsnip1: my driver video is Via/S3G Unichrome IGP.. i need install the driver...
[08:18] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: should be
[08:18] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: then run: lspci | grep -i vga
[08:18] <chu_> Cheers man, really are great help.
[08:18] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: and websearch for that
[08:18] <d0wn> Are there any security.ubuntu.com repo mirrors?
[08:19] <kruykaze> damn i guess i am invisible
[08:19] <ndlovu> any reason why gutsy packages aren't listed on packages.ubuntu.com? beyond supported age?
[08:19] <diieggo> ActionParsnip1 thanks
[08:19] <lstarnes> ndlovu: gutsy is no longer supported
[08:19] <kruykaze> i'll go dig an invisible hole and bury myself in it
[08:19] <chu_> Reboot time again.
[08:19] <chu_> Be back shortly.
[08:20] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, I answered your question in #ubuntu+1
[08:20] <HowDoI> Can anyone help?  I have strange graphics performance on Ubuntu Jaunty with integrated Intel 82945G graphics.  The results of "grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log" show that I'm using the i810 driver.  Is this the wrong driver?  Also, Karmic Alpha 6 locks up immediately on getting to the desktop.
[08:20] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, oh ok
[08:21] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, i did that but it doesn't keep the settings
[08:22] <ndlovu> are the gutsy packages still available? "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/source/Sources.gz 404 Not found [IP: 91.189.88.140 80]"
[08:22] <leaf-sheep> !gutsy | ndlovu
[08:22] <eminor> !karmic | HowDoI
[08:23] <HowDoI> Thanks, but this is more a question about Jaunty
[08:23] <Madpilot> ndlovu, gutsy is dead. Probably time to reinstall or upgrade
[08:23] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, hmm, maybe there's something wrong with your config file
[08:23] <ashu> hi
[08:23] <HowDoI> I feel the two problems may be related
[08:23] <leaf-sheep> !intel | HowDoI
[08:23] <hnb> hi
[08:23] <leaf-sheep> HowDoI: See the first link on second factorid.
[08:23] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, i just changed that with the manual adress do i need to reboot?
[08:23] <ndlovu> Madpilot, fair enough, but I am just trying to use the LiveCD for file recovery... would rather not download a whole new CD if the old one works fine
[08:24] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[08:24] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, you need to do a "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0"
[08:24] <MightyTweek> i think
[08:24] <kruykaze> ok
[08:24] <diieggo> ActionParsnip1 ubuntu is linux current or legacy?
[08:24] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: Change that in your sources.list -- to point the right direction.
[08:24] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, ah, that might help, thanks
[08:25] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, interface eth0 not configured
[08:25] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: a default install of ubuntu comes with chrome drivers
[08:26] <hnb> I have a question, regarding my internet connection. I installed ubuntu server 9.04 and have trouble connecting to the internet. I already checked my ip which seems to be fine (192.168.0.185) but I cannot ping the router or other machines on the network. I also cant ping google (or use apt-get for that matter). Does anyone have any ideas, or could point me in the right direction?
[08:26] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, is your network adapter at eth0 or a different device? YOu might need to do a "sudo ifconfig" to find out
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: did you also set the default gateway?
[08:27] <kruykaze> eth0
[08:27] <kruykaze> i also have lo
[08:27] <hnb> how do i do that?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: its in the same place you set your ip: /etc/network/interfaces
[08:27] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, eth0 when i do ifconfig
[08:27] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, it seems that only the CD images are there... have all gutsy repositories been removed?
[08:28] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: (i used dhcp for the ip)
[08:28] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: ok then run: route      to show the routes, do you have the default gateway set?
[08:28] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, i also noticed that it does not ask for root password to change the settings
[08:29] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: in the file you mentioned it says: auto etho0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:29] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: cool, that means its using dhcp
[08:29] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, which file are you editing?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: if you run the route command is your routers IP the default address?
[08:30] <bullgard4> I called Empathy > Help > Debug. A window "Debug Window" opened. The mouse cursor changed to a vertical arrow pointing to a horizontal area. I can move the cursor. Clicking it on any button does not have an effect. Ctrl+Alt+F1 does not call a virtual console. Is Alt+PrtSc+K the only way out?
[08:30] <hnb> no i think it is not
[08:30] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, interfaces
[08:30] <hnb> ow wait it is
[08:30] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard4: log a bug
[08:30] <ndlovu> ugh... forums: "Sorry to say, but 7.10 has reached it's end of life. The repositories are no longer available."
[08:30] <hnb> default 192.168.0.1
[08:30] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: ok can you ping that IP?
[08:30] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:30] <kruykaze> yessir
[08:30] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: ping -c 4 192.168.0.1
[08:30] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Gutsy
[08:31] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip What do you mean by "log a bug"?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip1> !bug | bullgard4
[08:31] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: no, i get 100% packet loss
[08:32] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: ok, if you run: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart; ifconfig      do you still get an IP address
[08:32] <MightyTweek> bullgard4: you can kill an unresponsive program by running "killall programname" where programname is the misbehaving program
[08:32] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, so what else does ifconfig say about your network adapter?
[08:33] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, should i pastebin?
[08:33] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, sure
[08:33] <bullgard4> MightyTweek: You did not read carefully what I wrote. I cannot run "killall programname".
[08:33] <root__> Hello, i'm trying to get my Kodak Easyshare DX6340 working on Ubuntu .I tried to connect it via USB but it doesn't work ... no message at all. But my pendrive when inserted works fine.Can somebody help??
[08:33] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: it seems so (the same ip) but it first shows DHCPDISCOVER 4 times, the DHCPOFFER ->REQUEST->ACK
[08:34] <hnb> i get it from the default gateway
[08:34] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: ok cool
[08:34] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, http://pastebin.org/32520
[08:34] <Madpilot> root__, you might want to check the camera's settings. PTP is probably what it should be set as for storage/etc, no idea what Kodak does by default
[08:34] <MightyTweek> bullgard4, sorry! try alt-sysrq-r, then ctrl-alt-f1
[08:35] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: and does the route output say: default         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[08:35] <bullgard4> MightyTweek: this has no efect.
[08:35] <root__> @Madpilot will try that thanx
[08:35] <bullgard4> s/efect/effect/
[08:35] <Madpilot> root__, or buy yourself a Canon. ;)
[08:36] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: it is the second entry (after 192.168.0.0 *  ...) an dit is slightly different: default        192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0        UG    100      0        0 eth0
[08:36] <hnb> (note the 100)
[08:36] <MightyTweek> hey kruykaze can I see your /etc/network/interfaces as well? thanks
[08:36] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, sure
[08:36] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, I need the Desktop CD to do recovery, so I may as well download 9.04. downloading a CD in south africa is not a joke - pigeons have been proved to be a faster means of data transfer (http://tinyurl.com/yewpady)
[08:37] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: I read that news awhile ago. :)
[08:37] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: thats the metric, maybe that means something
[08:37] <root__> @Madpilot I can`t find PTP  What is it?
[08:37] <kraut> moin
[08:37] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all, kind of out of topic for this forum, but I lack another idea. I've got a Comtrend CT-5624 ADSL+ Router from my ISP (Evil Verizon on Misawa AB so I can't select another). They provide normal user stuff, but not HTTP/FTP/SSH for us geeks. Any ideas on how to route my sites through this device? (http://www.openlug.com for example)
[08:37] <Madpilot> root__, can't recall what it stands for, something Transfer Something - check your camera's manual for it's transfer settings.
[08:37] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, i just changed to http://pastebin.org/32521 and did not reboot yet
[08:38] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299540
[08:38] <chu_> Argh, so when do my wireless drivers appear in Hardware Drivers?
[08:38] <MightyTweek> bullgard4, you might need to alt-sysrq-k then
[08:38] <NineTeen67Comet> Right now if you attempt my site you get the router's login request. I've only got a guest user login, so I can't change port forwarding etc ..
[08:38] <Madpilot> ndlovu, got family in RSA, whole universities down there have less bandwidth than households here in Canada!
[08:38] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: try setting the metric to 0, se if it gets used
[08:38] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: lol @ birdseed must not have any performance enhancing seeds within
[08:39] <root__> @Madpilot ok
[08:39] <Boohbah> NineTeen67Comet: are they blocking port 80?
[08:40] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, your interfaces file doesn't reference eth0 at all, just wlan0. is it your wireless connection you're trying to set up or the wired one?
[08:40] <ndlovu> yup, it's pretty ugly over here. anybody got a pigeon they'd be willing to strap a 9.04 data card to?
[08:40] <Boohbah> NineTeen67Comet: if so, choose a higher port, or get a real web host
[08:40] <minga_> c.efnet.net
[08:40] <NineTeen67Comet> Boohbah, they said (a guy I know that knows their tech support) said they stealth the ports ..
[08:40] <Administrator_>  Is there any way to specify or export an Xserver ip addres in ubuntu permanently
[08:40] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, wired i'm using wireless now
[08:40] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: im trying to figure out how
[08:41] <NineTeen67Comet> Boohbah:  My ps3, torrents etc all work okay, I just can't ssh, ftp/http to my servers ..
[08:41] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, should i replace wlan with eth0?
[08:41] <diieggo> ActionParsnip1: hey man my driver graphics don't have for linux .-.
[08:42] <Khisanth> the PS3 would only need to make outgoing connections and torrents would be slightly degraded but still functional ...
[08:42] <Boohbah> NineTeen67Comet: yup, you can setting your web server to listen on a random high port and see if it makes a difference, otherwise there is no good way to run a server on that network as they are blocking incoming connections
[08:42] <Khisanth> NineTeen67Comet: if you don't have admin privileges there isn't much you can do short taking the risk to open the thing up ...
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: looks like you just add it below the iface inet eth0 dhcp     line
[08:43] <NineTeen67Comet> Boohbah: yeah, I tried setting webmin up to the default 10,000 .. din' work either .. lol
[08:43] <lizzzy> I tried playing a song and I get this error: "Both audiosink and alsasink elements are missing"?
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: just put:   metric 0
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man5/interfaces.5.html
[08:43] <NineTeen67Comet> Yeah thinkin' I might try a hard reset and hope the DSL settings don't change and break it .. lol
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: damn
[08:43] <Boohbah> NineTeen67Comet: i would suggest looking at a cheap VPS hosting provider to run your servers then
[08:43] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, yes, if you want to configure eth0, your interfaces file needs to reference that device
[08:43] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, and reboot?
[08:43] <NineTeen67Comet> thanks Khisanth and Boohbah .. I'll hammer their customer support a little more; see if I can't get a little more tech savy guy on the line ..
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: keep diging omething may turn up. You may have to edit xorg.conf but it can be done
[08:44] <Boohbah> NineTeen67Comet: good luck getting ahold of an actual network administrator :)
[08:44] <NineTeen67Comet> Boohbah: yeah, I've been looking into clouds too .. just don't like paying monthly for something I can do for free yah know ..
[08:44] <NineTeen67Comet> lol
[08:44] <NineTeen67Comet> yeah
[08:44] <NineTeen67Comet> g'night
[08:44] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, I think an ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 should suffice
[08:45] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, eth0 not configured so i'll reboot and be back
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: if you websearch the exact output of the command I gave then you may have more luck
[08:46] <lizzzy> Do I have to install some missing audio plugins? -------> "Both audiosink and alsasink elements are missing"?
[08:47] <ndlovu> downloading... estimated download time 4:22:00
[08:47] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: it didnt help. I now have metric 0, but still cant ping the default gateway (i get Host unreachable)
[08:47] <YungRipp> Hi..I just installed xchat, and it doesn't list the number of users on the right..
[08:47] <ducanh> hi everyone
[08:47] <YungRipp> instead, just states the number of users on the left
[08:47] <YungRipp> rather than listing them
[08:47] <YungRipp> i see nothing in configuration to change this behavior
[08:48] <MightyTweek> lizzzy, what program are you using? and what kind of file are you trying to play? Does it play other files okay?
[08:48] <johnnym3> hello!
[08:48] <ducanh> how can I obtain tabbed browsing feature in GNOME?
[08:48] <johnnym3> and good evening as well!  i'm having some troubles, wondering if anyone could help out?!
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: all i can think is reboot reouter and reboot system
[08:49] <leaf-sheep> ducanh: For Nautilus? CTRL + T
[08:49] <diieggo> ActionParsnip1: whats problem Unichrome Graphics?
[08:49] <ducanh> @leaf-sheep: No, for the file manager
[08:49] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: ok, thanks. its a very strange problem
[08:49] <leaf-sheep> YungRipp: In XChat, View --> User List
[08:49] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: No, Amarok is crashing, saying that the default hda intel device failed! So, I played a regular mp3 file using songbird. I googled and it seems it's not a player-specific issue.
[08:49] <root__> @Madpilot I could not find any such settings . But I could make the camera work with windows XP doesn`t that mean the necessary settings are proper??
[08:49] <papapepper> I love linux... how do I install the desktop environment on my server only ubuntu?
[08:49] <leaf-sheep> ducanh: Nautilus is the name for the file manager. ;3
[08:50] <YungRipp> Ah, so my version doesn't seem to have that option..
[08:50] <leaf-sheep> YungRipp: What package?
[08:50] <YungRipp> I installed via add/remove
[08:50] <fosco_> paprna_, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <YungRipp> XChat-GNOME 0.26.1
[08:50] <YungRipp> is the version i am using
[08:50] <papapepper> and while I'm at it, what do people recommend for window manager?
[08:50] <YungRipp> ahhh
[08:50] <ducanh> @leaf-sheep: oh, ok :D, thanks
[08:50] <YungRipp> Discussion->Users
[08:50] <MightyTweek> !ask | johnnym3
[08:50] <YungRipp> bleh
[08:50] <leaf-sheep> YungRipp: XChat-GNOME is not same as XChat.  Remove XChat-GNOME and install XChat.  They're different thing but XChat is far better. :)
[08:50] <papapepper> KDE or GNOME?
[08:51] <YungRipp> OK, shall do so
[08:51] <Madpilot> root__, no idea, sorry. My Canon has always 'just worked'. What happens if you go to F-Spot or gthumb and try "Import from Camera" after plugging it in?
[08:51] <DigitalKiwi> paolob: neither kde or gnome are window managers
[08:51] <paolob> Hi guys! trying to upgrade to karmic: update-manager stops saying "Authentication failed
[08:51] <paolob> Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server. "
[08:51] <DigitalKiwi> papapepper: ^
[08:51] <Madpilot> papapepper, that's a Holy War question. Whichever  you like better, or hate least, is the only right answer :)
[08:52] <DigitalKiwi> sorry paolob
[08:52] <ZykoticK9> papapepper, you are kinda approching this backwards.  it's MUCH easier to install server services on a desktop ubuntu then the reverse that you're trying - installing desktop on server.  Server is designed NOT to run with a GUI.  But it could be a great learning tool to try ;)  Good luck man.
[08:52] <MightyTweek> lizzzy, was it amarok or songbird that was giving you the "both audiosync and alsasync" error?
[08:52] <leaf-sheep> papapepper: It is a flavor. Do you prefer Vanilla or Chocolate? They are essentially different but they get the job done same. It's up to user's likings.
[08:52] <root__> @Madpilot as soon as i plug it in nothing happens I cannot access the camera
[08:52] <DigitalKiwi> awesome wm is pretty cool
[08:53] <Madpilot> root__, so asking F-Spot or gthumb to import from camera doesn't work?
[08:53] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: songbird.
[08:53] <papapepper> Is chocolate or vanilla any more easy to develop in or more widely supported by enterprise linuxes?
[08:54] <ddddddddd> I have no sound on 9.04. 82801G and 2.6.28-15-generic
[08:54] <MightyTweek> lizzzy, when did this start happening? did you make any recent changes to your system which might have caused the problem?
[08:54] <papapepper> ZykoticK9: yeah, install kept crashing, so I just installed BASIC system
[08:54] <ddddddddd> Any ideas?
[08:54] <papapepper> not really a lot of server stuff installed, just command line base
[08:54] <papapepper> Madpilot: I think I like that one best :-)
[08:55] <YungRipp> Sweet, that was easy
[08:55] <DigitalKiwi> http://omploader.org/vMjgyag papapepper
[08:56] <papapepper> is KDE or GNOME any more "free" license wise?
[08:56] <YungRipp> Aren't they both exactly GPL?
[08:56] <papapepper> and what are they called? i know it's not window managers
[08:56] <ddddddddd> papapepper, Both are free as in freedom.
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> papapepper: both are gpl licensed
[08:56] <DigitalKiwi> well QT is lgpl isn't it?
[08:56] <ddddddddd> papapepper, Desktop Environment.
[08:56] <DigitalKiwi> Qt*
[08:56] <papapepper> gnome is the gnu pet, right?
[08:56] <DigitalKiwi> dual licensed even iirc
[08:57] <ddddddddd> gnu pet?
[08:57] <leaf-sheep> !away > nephesh|sleep
[08:57] <shoss> Hello, I got a zombie process that keeps reappearing after restarting the computer (jaunty amd64 Gnome). I know there's probably not much to worry about I just want to know if there's anyway so see what is the parent process for that zombie...?
[08:57] <phantomcircuit> hi there
[08:57] <papapepper> gnu pet project?
[08:57] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: I installed kubuntu-desktop and uninstalled ubuntu-desktop. It did play music all this time and I experienced these problems when i had ubuntu-desktop too(sometimes).
[08:57] <papapepper> under gnu's wing?
[08:57] <root__> @madpilot When i use F-spot there is no camera option to select from the "import source"
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> papapepper: both are DEs, you can run whatever window manager you like on them (Gnome uses metacity by default, kde usus kwin)
[08:57] <phantomcircuit> sound has stopped working on my 9.04 laptop, also not muted
[08:57] <phantomcircuit> :P
[08:57] <papapepper> lizzzy: right on topic!
[08:57] <nonix4> How do I make apparmor spam the logs less? aa-logprof just exits with zero exit code, without actually doing anything...
[08:57] <ddddddddd> papapepper, It was originally started by the GNU project because KDS used to be non-free.
[08:58] <ddddddddd> *KDE
[08:58] <papapepper> ++ddddddd
[08:58] <MightyTweek> lizzzy, so it's a sporadic issue? Have you tried booting from a live CD, and if so, does sound work there?
[08:58] <leaf-sheep> phantomcircuit: Try running in the terminal --> sudo alsactl init
[08:58] <Madpilot> root__, very odd. Have you tried googling your camera model and "Ubuntu" or just "linux" together?
[08:58] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, seems you were right about the old-releases: all that needs to change is the URL in sources.list must be changed from archive. and security. to old-releases.ubuntu.com. I should listen more closely :)
[08:58] <phantomcircuit> leaf-sheep, i heard a pop
[08:59] <phantomcircuit> success
[08:59] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: Well, I have a fedora liveUSB and windoze on another partition. I experience no such problems.
[08:59] <leaf-sheep> phantomcircuit: So you got your sound back then? ;o
[08:59] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: That was the idea. What were you doing? o.o
[08:59] <phantomcircuit> yeah
[08:59] <cheese_za> good day all
[08:59] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, I was checking the website
[09:00] <papapepper> cheese, gdty
[09:00] <cheese_za> :)
[09:00] <cheese_za> i have a display driver related query
[09:00] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: Ah. You got distracted is all. Yeah. Just redirect all URL, update, upgrade.  Then you can get your packages. You got them already, right?
[09:01] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, updating packages at the moment
[09:01] <cheese_za> i have a matsonic MS9158E+ motherboard with a built in display card. I believe it is a S3 Prosavage 8 chipset
[09:01] <chu_> gonzojive has the most impressive domain.
[09:01] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, yay, testdisk installing :)
[09:01] <root__> @ Madpilot it just recognised it. But it is giving an error "couldnot lock the camera" while connecting the camera
[09:01] <cheese_za> unbuntu 9.04 does not detect the display card
[09:01] <MightyTweek> lizzzy, I suspect you may need to reinstall a package related to alsa... maybe try reinstalling alsa-base
[09:01] <cheese_za> i tried to get chrome working but to no avail
[09:02] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: Mirrors are slow today. (On account of Karmic Beta release).  I'm still waiting for the last 20MB. :(
[09:02] <cheese_za> so i am stuck on 800X600 resolution
[09:02] <root__> @madpilot i mean i could select the camera from the import source option but i am getting that error
[09:02] <Madpilot> root__, my camera does that sometimes - what I have to do is unmount the camera, then re-run the Import command from inside gthumb. it's a known issue with camera mounting in the current verison of Ubuntu.
[09:02] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: Will do that now
[09:02] <phantomcircuit> leaf-sheep, ppsssst the columbia.edu mirror is running full speed
[09:03] <root__> @Madpilot ok i will try that
[09:04] <leaf-sheep> phantomcircuit: Psssst... Local repo mirror <3  (FASTEST)
[09:04] <diieggo> whats command for edit xorg?
[09:04] <cheese_za> does anyone know how to get the drivers for my card working?
[09:04] <phantomcircuit> leaf-sheep, well i've clocked columbia.edu at 7.0 MB/s
[09:05] <leaf-sheep> phantomcircuit: Nice. You live near that mirror?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> cheese_za: try this in your xorg.conf
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> cheese_za: http://pastie.org/639112\
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> cheese_za: http://pastie.org/639112
[09:05] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: alsa installed is the newest version
[09:05] <frandieguez>  Hi to all, I'm a member of Ubuntu Galician Translators and I'm testing Ubuntu Karmic beta on galician language (gl_ES) and after 2 weeks solving all the translation errors on alfa6 we can see that the ubiquity-slideshow isn't showed translated yet. What is the procedement for make Ubuntu integrate the translations made on launchpad on the final product release?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> cheese_za: you only need to add lines 3 to 6
[09:06] <chu_> ActionParsnip. The first link you gave me talked about madwifi, this next link (I saved this one) talks about compat-wireless, they're not the same thing, are they?
[09:06] <cheese_za> will do ActionParsnip1
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> cheese_za: so it will actually look like this: http://pastie.org/639114
[09:06] <phantomcircuit> leaf-sheep, no it's connected directly to a cogent backbone that verizon business internet has forgotten about after they bought the line
[09:06] <YungRipp> Hi guys
[09:06] <cheese_za> will let you know how it turns out
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> cheese_za: you will need: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:06] <YungRipp> Can you recommend an editor for rails development on ubuntu?
[09:06] <Madpilot> frandieguez, Karmic questions to #ubuntu+1, please
[09:06] <phantomcircuit> i think it actually maxes out at MUCH higher than that but my line is limited to 7MB/s
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: not sure, play around with them tosee what you can get
[09:07] <Darkomen> !keep semperfi
[09:07] <MightyTweek> sorry lizzzy, I've gotta go. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting might be helpful
[09:07] <mgmuscari> ugh, the ubuntu installer keeps crashing out mysteriously right after formatting partitions
[09:07] <frandieguez> @Madpilot ok
[09:07] <chu_> It seems compat-wireless one doesn't support the AR928X, so back to madwifi though.
[09:07] <mgmuscari> or right in the middle of formatting partitions
[09:08] <mgmuscari> so am i to assume my disk is fried?
[09:08] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: Cool! Thanks for your help though.
[09:08] <shoss> How do I find the file responsible for a certain pid, as in what is the command line to use?
[09:08] <papapepper> anyone run irssi??
[09:08] <mgmuscari> shoss: ps aux
[09:08] <shoss> mgmuscari: thanks
[09:08] <chu_> There's a response on the Ubuntu forums regarding this wireless chipset and pretty much my exact problem, what is wicd? As that appears to have solved it.
[09:08] <mgmuscari> shoss: and if you want to see what process is using a particular file, use lsof
[09:08] <chu_> !wicd
[09:08] <papapepper> I'm trying to type irc commands as text, but two slashes doesn't escape
[09:09] <papapepper> !irc
[09:09] <chu_> Just use like [/ quit]
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: wicd is a wireless manager like network manager afaik
[09:09] <papapepper> like this?
[09:09] <my_haz> how do i run a command/script when the screen saver starts
[09:09] <DigitalKiwi> papapepper: / /
[09:10] <chu_> Let me try wicd then :)
[09:10] <papapepper> yeah, double slash isn't working like it does in colloquy
[09:10] <DigitalKiwi> there is a space
[09:10] <snuxoll> YungRipp: heard you needed some advice on editors/IDE's
[09:10] <shoss> is this normal, how do I terminate this?:5458  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    09:26   0:00 [sci] <defunct>
[09:10] <papapepper> my son was holding a stuffed penguin at the ymca daycare yesterday.... i almost got teary
[09:10] <papapepper> :`-)
[09:11] <mgmuscari> shoss: kill 5458
[09:11] <mgmuscari> shoss: if it's really naughty and won't die, kill -9 5458
[09:11] <mgmuscari> i forget... does the Z indicate zombie process?
[09:11] <papapepper> hey, I know it's a pain in the ass to find hardware the OS X will run on, but can't I run it on a virtual machine from ubuntu?
[09:12] <shoss> mgmuscari: its a defunct / zombie, i tried kill -9 but no go, it keeps coming back after reboot, i'm trying to find the responsible application that's causing it...
[09:12] <mgmuscari> lsof | grep 5458 might help?
[09:12] <papapepper> xen has been difficult for me in the past, but i've got a virtual box install cd
[09:13] <munky> hi, i have ubuntu hardy audio preview doesn't work, why
[09:13] <chu_> Oh man, wicd doesn't like the gnome-network manager
[09:13] <chu_> That scared me.
[09:13] <shoss> mgmuscari: no output
[09:13] <munky> i installed sudo apt-get install esound mpg123 mpg123-esd mpg321 vorbis-tools sox
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> papapepper: the license of OSX means it must be ran on mac hardware, you are violating your license
[09:13] <mgmuscari> shoss: figures...
[09:13] <GiveMeWeed> hi there im doing some work about how to handle users and groups under linux....
[09:13] <munky> why doesn't work?
[09:13] <mgmuscari> shoss: not sure what to tell you... check /etc/init.d?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> GiveMeWeed: cool
[09:13] <GiveMeWeed> and i have read that are 2 types of groups, i dont uderstand this
[09:14] <chu_> Ok, hopefully a reboot will fix it.
[09:14] <GiveMeWeed> u know what i mean?
[09:14] <MarcoPau> Hello, I've been trying to upgrade in the last two days but I get this error: can't exec "/usr/bin/defoma-app": No file or directory at /usr/sbin/update-pangox-aliases line 48. Failed to clean up for defoma: -1 at /usr/sbin/update-pangox-aliases line 48. Using jaunty with a few PPA repos... Any hint?
[09:14] <my_haz> papapepper: http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> GiveMeWeed: its not a supprt question dude, head to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:14] <GiveMeWeed> ok ty
[09:15] <stwange> are some of the repositories down? I keep timing out trying to upgrade, each attempt gets about 2.5mb before failing. I can upgrade in chunks....
[09:15] <shoss> mgmuscari: /etc/init.d is a big dir :)
[09:15] <mgmuscari> shoss: that it is... you could start selectively turning things off until your zombie process goes away
[09:15] <Xgates> what kernel version is in 9.10 beta?
[09:15] <mgmuscari> is it the same PID every time?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> stwange: the beta of karmic was out yesterdat,busy servers = slow download
[09:15] <mikejaer> Hi
[09:15] <shoss> mgmuscari: thanks
[09:15] <stwange> ah that explains it. Thanks ActionParsnip
[09:15] <stwange> ah that explains it. Thanks ActionParsnip1 even
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> stwange: any big release day hammers the server as folks pull stuff down
[09:17] <snuxoll> which is why you people should be using the torrents
[09:17] <mgmuscari> shoss: np
[09:17] <GiveMeWeed> whell there r the supplementary/secondary
[09:17] <Xgates> what kernel version is in 9.10 beta?
[09:18] <mgmuscari> does anybody here recall having problems installing 9.04? specifically install.py randomly crashing at the format partitions step
[09:18] <papapepper> ActionParsnip1: not yet, I'm not :-)
[09:19] <chu_> Mmmm, wicd doesn't find my wireless either :( Any advice for the WPA Supplicant Driver to use? I have selected madwifi and ndiswrapper; neither worked.
[09:20] <mgmuscari> !md5sum
[09:20] <root__> @Madpilot it worked thanx. Now i dont have to buy cannon ;-)
[09:21] <Madpilot> root__, good to hear. Canon make nice cameras, though. :)
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: not all wifi devices can connect to WPA in linux
[09:22] <mgmuscari> ugh
[09:22] <mgmuscari> finally
[09:22] <mgmuscari> correct checksum
[09:22] <mgmuscari> well
[09:23] <chu_> Bugger, a few sites I read said wicd did well with the Atheros AR928x, perhaps I'm just unlucky :(
[09:23] <mgmuscari> i guess it turns out that my laptop is hosed SO BADLY, that it can't even reliably write to a usb drive or samba mounted drive...
[09:23] <mgmuscari> ughhhh i hope my /home backed up ok
[09:23] <root__> @Madpilot will keep that in mind :)
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> mgmuscari: boot to livecd and backup then
[09:24] <cheslyn> hi guys !!
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> mgmuscari: doesnt matter whats on the internal disk then ;)
[09:24] <mgmuscari> ActionParsnip1: my partitions steadily degraded to the point where nothing worked
[09:24] <mgmuscari> i was having problems with the livecd i had
[09:24] <mgmuscari> it kept throwing up scsi errors or something
[09:25] <mgmuscari> if my sata controller just randomly failed i will be EXTREMELY upset with lenovo
[09:25] <chu_> Now, if the wireless *was* working, regardless of if I could connect to the nework, there should be wireless networks found (there are at least 2 right near me), however nothing is found, so perhaps my card isn't "activated" I don't know....
[09:25] <cheslyn> can anyone tell me you able 2 download xchat on a mobile phone
[09:25] <mgmuscari> so i tried to make a usb stick to boot from...
[09:26] <mgmuscari> now i'm doing it from my server here
[09:26] <mgmuscari> i'm glad that i opted to at least keep GDM installed in case i ever need it
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> mgmuscari: wowsers
[09:29] <mgmuscari> room is clearing out...
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> mgmuscari: get the data off fast
[09:29] <mgmuscari> ActionParsnip1: i already managed to get /home onto my NAS
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> cool
[09:30] <mgmuscari> i'm running a low-level diagnostic of the hard disk right now from the bios
[09:30] <mgmuscari> if this passes, i'll really be scratching my head...
[09:30] <mgmuscari> i guess it would just mean that my fs drivers got corrupted
[09:31] <mgmuscari> class at 11am :(
[09:31] <mgmuscari> i started with this 2 days ago:
[09:31] <mgmuscari> http://img18.yfrog.com/i/o5zv.jpg/
[09:32] <mgmuscari> ended up here earlier tonight:
[09:32] <mgmuscari> http://img188.yfrog.com/i/cocuv.jpg/
[09:32] <mgmuscari> blurry but basically / would not mount in rw mode no matter what
[09:32] <mgmuscari> then here http://img96.yfrog.com/i/wgo.jpg/
[09:33] <^Phantom^> How do I search for a file in ubuntu?
[09:33] <mgmuscari> now here :/ http://img23.yfrog.com/i/pk9r.jpg/
[09:33] <^Phantom^> I want to find a file on my windows drive, but I don't know how to use the search function very well...
[09:33] <mgmuscari> ^Phantom^: find
[09:33] <mgmuscari> cd to your windows drive in a terminal
[09:33] <mgmuscari> then do
[09:33] <mgmuscari> find | grep filename
[09:33] <^Phantom^> oklay
[09:33] <mgmuscari> will probably take a while...
[09:34] <phantomcircuit> yeah especially if you do it that way
[09:34] <phantomcircuit> man find
[09:34] <mgmuscari> phantomcircuit: is there a better way to search an ntfs partition?
[09:34] <snuxoll> but the locate databes probably won't have your windows partition indexed
[09:34] <phantomcircuit> yeah you use find correctly
[09:34] <snuxoll> so no, there isn't really a better way
[09:34] <phantomcircuit> dont pipe it through grep ffs
[09:34] <mgmuscari> live and learn :)
[09:34] <snuxoll> phantomcircuit: you won't save any time by using find 'correctly'
[09:34] <^Phantom^> um...
[09:34] <YungRipp> Has anyone successfully installed Rails?
[09:34] <^Phantom^> i'm already doing that...
[09:34] <snuxoll> phantomcircuit: grep is exceptionally fast
[09:35] <snuxoll> YungRipp: yes
[09:35] <YungRipp> I'm following the instructions on the website, but it isn't working..
[09:35] <^Phantom^> the drive is hosed anyway
[09:35] <YungRipp> sudo gem install rubygems-update
[09:35] <YungRipp> sudo update_rubygems
[09:35] <YungRipp> So i executed both of those..
[09:35] <mgmuscari> ^Phantom^: mine too!
[09:35] <YungRipp> but the latter, it can't find 'update_rubygems'
[09:35] <YungRipp> and i tried to find the file, but couldn't
[09:35] <YungRipp> so it can find it if I do not sudo..
[09:35] <YungRipp> but cannot if i do
[09:35] <FloodBot1> YungRipp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <snuxoll> YungRipp: I always install rubygems manually, the ubuntu install never works right
[09:35] <^Phantom^> cd media
[09:35] <^Phantom^> oops wrong window :(
[09:35] <mgmuscari> yungripp: use the absolute path when you sudo
[09:36] <YungRipp> ok, let me try that
[09:37] <AlexxC> hello
[09:37] <YungRipp> But how can I find the file update_rubygems?
[09:37] <YungRipp> neither locate nor find seem to work
[09:37] <mgmuscari> AlexxC: how may we be of assistance?
[09:37] <mgmuscari> YungRipp: if it's in your path, which update_rubygems, i guess
[09:38] <snuxoll> YungRipp: erm, where exactly did you get this rubygems-update package?
[09:38] <snuxoll> oh, with gem itself
[09:38] <snuxoll> that's why
[09:38] <YungRipp> That is what the tutorial on the ubuntu website says to do
[09:38] <snuxoll> YungRipp: Ubuntu's rubygems package is wonky, it doesn't work right
[09:39] <YungRipp> Hrm
[09:39] <YungRipp> The website suggests working through gems
[09:39] <snuxoll> YungRipp: go to the rubygems website and install the latest version yourself
[09:39] <YungRipp> fair enough
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> YungRipp: try: sudo find / -iname "update_*"
[09:39] <snuxoll> YungRipp: (after uninstalling the one in the repos)
[09:39] <YungRipp> i hope it won't cause weird dependency issues later..
[09:39] <YungRipp> ah, thanks action_parsnip1
[09:39] <snuxoll> YungRipp: it won't, gems is self-contained and only needs ruby itself
[09:39] <nmvictor> which file does update manager read?
[09:40]  * snuxoll is a ruby developer
[09:40] <snuxoll> nmvictor: what do you mean?
[09:40] <YungRipp> OK, the find command seems to have been a win
[09:40] <YungRipp> hehe
[09:40] <Boohbah> it usually is
[09:41] <YungRipp> Wonder why it was in my path, but not in sudo path..
[09:41] <YungRipp> ah well
[09:41] <snuxoll> YungRipp: because sudo resets your environment
[09:41] <snuxoll> and, as I said, our rubygems package sucks
[09:41] <snuxoll> it puts everything in /var/gems and adds it to the path in a way that doesn't work when sudo resets the environment
[09:42] <Boohbah> snuxoll: you ever used http://www.capify.org/index.php/Capistrano  ?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> YungRipp: find is a killer app, iname makes the name case (i)nsensitive
[09:42] <snuxoll> Boohbah: yup
[09:42] <YungRipp> I see
[09:42] <zeltak> anyone know of a twitter client for irc?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> YungRipp: also put quotes round what you are finding so that spaces and special chars are managed
[09:42] <nmvictor> snuxoll, i mean when you fire up UM, the packages it displays as available updates are definitely stored in a file from which it reads.
[09:42] <YungRipp> will do
[09:42] <snuxoll> nmvictor: update-manager gets all of its information from libapt
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> YungRipp: locate couldnt find its ass with 2 hands
[09:43] <Boohbah> zeltak: i imagine that would depend on your irc client
[09:43] <snuxoll> nmvictor: which works on both the apt package listings and the dpkg database
[09:43] <cvbnm> hi
[09:43] <snuxoll> nmvictor: not files you want to touch by hand
[09:43] <cvbnm> anyone know about mozilla nss ?
[09:43] <zeltak> thx Boohbah im using weechat (command line irc). but i know some clients are program independet, act as a server i guess?
[09:43] <Boohbah> zeltak: or do you want an irc bot that speaks twitter?
[09:43] <^Phantom^> Okay
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> !anyone | cvbnm
[09:44] <Guest45839> can I update my alpha to beta version through internet,i am using 9.10
[09:44] <^Phantom^> Here's a question:  I want to run a virus scan on my windows partition from within ubuntu.  Is that possible?
[09:44] <mgmuscari> yaaayyyyyyy it tested my disk AND my controller
[09:44] <mgmuscari> and they both pass
[09:44] <Boohbah> zeltak: there's http://twirssi.com/ for irssi
[09:44] <mgmuscari> ^Phantom^: there are some linux virus scans around
[09:45] <cvbnm> help me with nss..
[09:45] <mgmuscari> ^Phantom^: the specific names of them escape me. but yes, you can do that. lots of webmail servers scan attachments for viruses, yes?
[09:45] <Boohbah> zeltak: i recommend trying irssi if you haven't
[09:45] <zeltak> yeah but that is indeed prog specific (for irssi) im using weechat :)
[09:45] <zeltak> ive tried both irssi and weechat but for some reaso liked wechat more
[09:45] <Guest45839> can I update my alpha to beta version through internet,i am using 9.10
[09:45] <zeltak> and stayed with it
[09:45] <chu_> Ok, so, wicd is useless to me, how do I revert back to the old network manager?
[09:45] <chu_> apt-get purge wicd?
[09:45] <YungRipp> Sweet, installed!
[09:46] <YungRipp> I wish the website were Wikified..
[09:46] <YungRipp> ah well
[09:46] <Boohbah> zeltak: http://www.weechat.org/files/scripts/old/weeter.pl
[09:46] <YungRipp> Or maybe I should just document the steps that worked
[09:46] <Guest45839> can I update my alpha to beta version through internet,i am using 9.10
[09:46] <Boohbah> zeltak: for weechat's old API, there isn't one for the new API, so maybe you can port it
[09:47] <Boohbah> zeltak: btw, http://www.google.com/search?q=weechat+irc+twitter
[09:47] <Yazid> hello
[09:47] <cchen> Does anybody have any experience for codec in ubuntu?
[09:47] <nmvictor> snuxoll, got you, thanks...
[09:47] <YungRipp> i spoke too soon, epic fail
[09:47] <snuxoll> cchen: eh?
[09:47] <YungRipp> lol
[09:47] <Yazid> i have experience in codec
[09:47] <zeltak> thx Boohbah and yeah i did a google search. im using the new weechat so unfortunantly it does not work with the old twitter script
[09:48] <Yazid> u can't view video in youtube?
[09:48] <Boohbah> zeltak: why not port the old script to the new API?
[09:48] <cchen> snuxoll, Yazid: I'm using totem, would w64codec work in totem or just mplayer?
[09:48] <untitled> are there amarok 2.2 packages avaliable for ubuntu yet?
[09:48] <snuxoll> cchen: why would you need w64codec?
[09:48] <Boohbah> zeltak: you can reuse the Net::Twitter pm
[09:48] <cchen> snuxoll, yazid: i did have flash installed so youtube's not a problem.
[09:48] <Yazid> i c...
[09:48] <zeltak> hehe i wouldnt even know where to begin...i know Zero at programming
[09:48] <Guest45839> can I update my alpha to beta version through internet,i am using 9.10
[09:49] <snuxoll> Guest45839: yes
[09:49] <Yazid> so what kind of file extension u want to play/open?
[09:49] <cchen> snuxoll: i need to watch .wmv files....  if I use gstreamer, i'm not sure what package I should install, there are so many
[09:49] <snuxoll> file extensions are not a good way to determine what codecs you need...
[09:49] <zeltak> btw Boohbah if you know how to get irssi to look like this: http://omploader.org/vMmdxMA
[09:49] <snuxoll> cchen: install ubuntu-restricted-extras and be done with it
[09:49] <zeltak> i wouldnt mind giving it a try
[09:49] <zeltak> i chatted on the irssi channel but its seems impossible
[09:50] <cchen> snuxoll: ubuntu-restricted-extras have too many stuffs in it, including a flash player, java runtime, all sort of codec that I don't use.
[09:50] <zeltak> i like the buffers on one side and nick on the other side "look" thats why i love weechat
[09:50] <snuxoll> cchen: so?
[09:50] <snuxoll> cchen: it's an easy install and gives you everything you might need
[09:50] <Boohbah> ActionParsnip: i like locate!
[09:50] <cchen> snuxoll: i already installed a 64 bit flash player form adobe website, latest sun java runtime environment
[09:50] <shoss> is there a comman to 'reap' a pid in linux?
[09:50] <snuxoll> cchen: *sigh* don't go installing stuff off the web
[09:50] <shoss> command*
[09:51] <snuxoll> cchen: please
[09:51] <snuxoll> we have repositories for a reason
[09:51] <toastedmilk> http://pastebin.com/m4f682244
[09:51] <Gnea> zeltak: is your .screenrc set to have those up there all the time?
[09:52] <Boohbah> zeltak: http://scripts.irssi.org/html/nickcolor.pl.html
[09:52] <Boohbah> zeltak: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/irssi
[09:53] <chu_> Is madwifi a binary driver? If I don't have it visible in Hardware Drivers I just don't have it installed?
[09:53] <smegzor> Is there a way to manually add screen resolutions in 9.04?  I have an ATI card running with NVidia drivers.  I'm hoping my card (an X300) can go higher than 1280.
[09:53] <zeltak> thx guys will check the links (btw i am using crunchbang and it rokcs ;-))
[09:53] <cchen> snuxoll: :-) true!  but my work requires developments by using the latest java sdk with eclipse.  so I kind of out of choices.  I've installed ubuntu-restricted before, but the it won't compile until they instructed me to use the latest sdk from sun.  As for the flash, I use the 64 bit instead of using the 32 bit wrapper to run a 32-bit flash to avoid overhead of my box.
[09:54] <cchen> snuxoll: i kind of worry by install ubuntu-restricted will break what I have here.
[09:54] <toastedmilk> http://pastebin.com/m4f682244, ubuntu 8.10, amd64, ati radeon 1900x, wine 1.1.30
[09:54] <Yazid> hi cchen, u still there?
[09:54] <brummbaer>  evening folks, I believe my synaptic has bitten the dust somehow, i'm unable to load syaptic, or install pkgs at the cli. error msg states i need to run 'dpkg --configure -a', but doing so also gives err msg. any advice?
[09:55] <cchen> snuxoll: that's why i was wondering if I can install the individual package alone.
[09:55] <cchen> yazid: i'm here.  :-)
[09:55] <Yazid> i just got disconnected..
[09:55] <snuxoll> cchen: cchen gstreamer0.10-plugins-good/bad/ugly iirc
[09:55] <Yazid> have u try to install w32codecs codec>
[09:55] <Yazid> ?
[09:55] <snuxoll> you don't need w32codecs anymore
[09:55] <toastedmilk> http://pastebin.com/m4f682244, ubuntu 8.10, amd64, ati radeon 1900x, wine 1.1.30
[09:56] <cchen> snuxoll: does gstreamer have codec already in w64codec?  Are they different set of codecs or the same?
[09:56] <snuxoll> cchen: you don't need wcodecs
[09:56] <Yazid> hmm.. another things is you could try to install vlc and mplayer..coz they have most of the codecs
[09:56] <Gnea> zeltak: sorry, didn't catch your response, if there was one
[09:57] <firecrotch> brummbaer: what is the error message you get from "dpkg --configure -a" ?
[09:57] <cchen> snuxoll: kk, so gstreamer covers what wcodec covers, right?
[09:57] <snuxoll> cchen: it should, yes
[09:57] <cchen> snuxoll: i know totem uses gstreamer, but can totem use w64codec?
[09:57] <brummbaer> firecrotch: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/283643/
[09:57] <snuxoll> cchen: no, it can't
[09:57] <snuxoll> and you don't need w64codecs, so stop asking about it
[09:58] <snuxoll> we have open source support for every media codec imaginable already, save for rmvb
[09:58] <karex> HI ALL, is there Multisim for Ubuntu?
[09:58] <mgmuscari> ugh i'm too tired to continue...
[09:58] <mgmuscari> goodnight room
[09:58] <cchen> snuxoll: cool, that answers my question.  thanks
[09:58] <cchen> snuxoll: by the way, what's in a multiverse package?
[09:59] <snuxoll> cchen: restricted software, meaning there may be copyright or patent issues
[09:59] <cchen> snuxoll: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad or gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[09:59] <snuxoll> cchen: just go with bad, I've never installed multiverse
[09:59] <toastedmilk> http://pastebin.com/m4f682244, ubuntu 8.10, amd64, ati radeon 1900x, wine 1.1.30
[10:00] <cchen> snuxoll: they both bad.  :-)  one has multiverse in the package name and the description says the same thing for both packages.
[10:00] <zeltak> Gnea: no worries, im looking into the links
[10:00] <zeltak> thx
[10:01] <cchen> snuxoll: got it, either one works.  thanks~
[10:03] <YungRipp> One more question for RoR guys...what IDE/editor setup do you recommend?
[10:03] <firecrotch> brummbaer: can you paste the output of dpkg --D13 --configure -a ?
[10:04] <amgarching> should I partition a disk if I only need it as a whole or let it unpartitioned?
[10:04] <Nachturnal> Bluefish all the way. :P
[10:04] <madsheep> hi guys
[10:04] <brummbaer> firecrotch, unkown option --D13
[10:05] <firecrotch> brummbaer: sorry, it's one - before D13
[10:05] <charnel> in ubuntu netbook edition after installing nvidia drivers tha launcher menu disappeared
[10:05] <charnel> anyone knows how to bring that back ?
[10:06] <brummbaer> firecrotch: nifty trick, output here -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/283649/
[10:06] <dominique> hi there! Where do i have to put my bash script, if it should be executed whenever the (Wlan)-network changes?
[10:06] <Marion> hey guys!
[10:06] <eMaX> hi all!
[10:06] <dominique> i write (wlan) because it does not really matter if it's the wlan or whatever
[10:06] <Marion> anyone heard of lockerz?
[10:07] <Marion> i guess not :-(
[10:07] <AnirbanHazra> Can anyone give me an updated sources.list file of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[10:07] <hanshenrik> (i have no clue how to do this in linux) i need a shell script that just execute "cd /var/www     dir"  how? xD
[10:08] <Marion> i have free invites to lockerz if anyone is interested.
[10:08] <Marion> do you guys use ubuntu fiesta?
[10:08] <firecrotch> !ot | Marion
[10:08] <ubuntu0ath1> Does anyone know how to edit the msttcore-installer to another mirror on sf . The mirror it uses by default gives me 404
[10:09] <eMaX> anyone here knows a bit about server hardware? I've a problem here with one of two machines. both have very similar hardware, both have a 3ware controller, the small system having 256 mb cache, the big system 512 mb. both have performance mode enabled, have a bbu and have write cache enabled. both have identical harddisks, the small system with sata interface, the big system with sas interface. now the observation: the small system shows > 40% wa
[10:09] <eMaX> according to top when writing 85 kb/s and reading 250 kb/s according to iotop. the big system shows <10% wa when reading 12MB/s and writing 9MB/s.
[10:09] <JKessler> is it slow downloading from the repositories for anyone else?
[10:09] <om26er> how can i use backspace in vim
[10:09] <Gnea> om26er: ESC
[10:10] <Gnea> om26er: er, use ESC after you i
[10:10] <Gnea> om26er: but backspace won't work until you i
[10:11] <ubuntu0ath1> JKessler: mirrors are slow for me too
[10:11] <om26er> Gnea what that mean
[10:11] <Gnea> om26er: it means you need to learn how to use vim
[10:11] <JKessler> ok, just checking thanks
[10:11] <Gnea> om26er: check this out: http://blog.interlinked.org/tutorials/vim_tutorial.html  and #vim can help as well
[10:12] <blue-frog> om26er: vimtutor  in your terminal
[10:12] <AnirbanHazra> Can anyone give me an updated sources.list file of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[10:14] <Gnea> AnirbanHazra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=783577
[10:15] <brandonc503> so i made a user for my web site to access server and cant remember password.. can recover it some way?
[10:15] <brummbaer> firecrotch, a little tinkering tells me i can get rid of the err msg inserting 'exit 0' at the top of the /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.postinst, and return to using synaptic okay. trying to reinstall libc6 though comes back w/ err. is this a critical library, or would i be safe to try purging and installing again from scratch?
[10:17] <firecrotch> brummbaer: libc6 is definitely critical, it's used by practically everything
[10:17] <brandonc503> only password recover i find is for ubntu login, but thats not what im looking for..
[10:17] <brummbaer> firecrotch, well heck.
[10:18] <swagga> is anybody able to help me connect to a wireless network plz... i got the key in hex format "13:0A:FC:F2:0E" i cannot convert it to ascii?
[10:18] <firecrotch> brummbaer: what is the new error that you get?
[10:19] <swagga> no error
[10:19] <brummbaer> firecrotch: same as before.
[10:19] <shaullx> is it possible to switch to normal ubuntu desktop in netbook remix?
[10:19] <shaullx> i didnt like the new style on netbook remix
[10:20] <shaullx> or do i need to download normal version of ubuntu?
[10:20] <firecrotch> brummbaer: You should be able to purge and reinstall the package
[10:22] <swagga> im using iwconfig
[10:22] <f_> ,,,,,,,,,,,,
[10:23] <f_> fuck
[10:23] <dawson> Hello
[10:23] <pak0> hi all people, good morning
[10:23] <my_haz> morning
[10:23] <f_> yes
[10:23] <alakran> hi! good morning
[10:23] <vigo> Top of the mornin
[10:23] <elky> f_, please read the guidelines "/msg ubottu guidelines"
[10:23] <f_> hi all people, good morning
[10:23] <pak0> i have one computer with ubuntu server, today, when i try to start it, before watch grub, bios says: scanning on port 0....
[10:23] <shaullx> anyone?
[10:24] <Negao> good morning
[10:24] <pak0> maybe raid is crashed? i have one mirror raid with 2 discs
[10:24] <pak0> good morning
[10:24] <f_> ubuntu 9.10 beta
[10:24] <swagga> iwconfig wlan0 enc <hex wep key> then iwconfig wlan essid <ssid> but im not gettin an ip
[10:25] <f_> hi all people, good morning
[10:25] <Lama_Chok> does any one knows how to hibernate PC through terminal
[10:25] <swagga> dhcpcd: command not found
[10:25] <elky> f_, please read the guidelines as I've already asked you to do.
[10:25] <Giada> hi! I installed ALSA audio driver and I can hear the audio only with my ipod hearphones, why?
[10:25] <Giada> can anyone help me please?
[10:26] <f_> i don`t know
[10:26] <chu_> Ok, so I have tried wicd, to no avail, I am back with networkmanager, I should remove the madwifi and try with ndiswrapper again... How do I go about removing madwifi?
[10:26] <swagga> could someone who knows about networking in linux pls pm me
[10:26] <swagga> use synaptic
[10:26] <f_> fool ubuntu
[10:26] <tasslehoff> how can I make ubuntu forget my running applications and start with an empty session? I have unchecked the checkbox, but still it keeps starting an oooold session.
[10:27] <sahil> i am looking for the best music player in ubuntu.
[10:27] <sahil> i
[10:27] <vigo> swagga: Did you read the forums on that?
[10:27] <chu_> sahil, banshee?
[10:27] <swagga> yes ive searched google for hours thats why im here
[10:27] <sahil> i've tried exail,banshee,rhythmbox,totem.....all fails
[10:27] <swagga> and the forums
[10:27] <Negao> none of those has equalizer
[10:27] <sahil> Banshee really sucks
[10:28] <chu_> oic
[10:28] <swagga> but everyone here seems to need help, not giving... lol..
[10:28] <vigo> swagga: is wlan0 missing?
[10:28] <Negao> i'm using aTunes, it works fine and has equalizer too
[10:28] <jamiewan> sahil: VLC player
[10:28] <swagga> vigo: wlan0 is there
[10:28] <Lama_Chok> sahil. i think vlc is simply the best... however totem is also not bad
[10:28] <swagga> in iwconfig it is showing
[10:28] <sahil> no sth like analogus to "itunes
[10:28] <chu_> swagga, you're having wireless issues too? What chipset are you running?
[10:28] <amigadude> hi all :)
[10:28] <firecrotch> swagga: are other wireless clients able to get an IP address?
[10:29] <swagga> RTL8187
[10:29] <Negao> vlc doesn't have a nice library
[10:29] <Negao> try atunes
[10:29] <vigo> swagga: What does lspci -vv or just lspci state?
[10:29] <sahil> atunes....this sound new to me.
[10:29] <sahil> thanks : nagao
[10:29] <cheslyn> hi guys
[10:29] <Lama_Chok> Negao what's special in atunes
[10:29] <Negao> i guess it's not on the repos
[10:29] <swagga> yes, well i can connect to the network from windows on my laptop
[10:29] <chu_> swagga, usb wireless?
[10:29] <swagga> yes
[10:29] <vigo> ah
[10:30] <Gnea> ~/ctcp gnea version
[10:30] <swagga> its RTL8187 netgear wg111v2
[10:30] <Gnea> oops
[10:30] <Negao> it has a nice music library, equalizer, radio, song lyrics, etc
[10:30] <toastedmilk> Anybody feel like deciphering some X work?  http://pastebin.com/m4e559823
[10:30] <froes> hi! is there a way i can convert s TEX, DVI or PDF to a DOC or RTF file on linux and make the DOC not editable, but people can open and read it??
[10:31] <YungRipp> Is there an easy way to swap out gnome for KDE?
[10:31] <toastedmilk> YungRipp, Synaptic Package Manager
[10:31] <cheslyn> does anyone know what error is [13 permission denied] is
[10:31] <Negao> btw u need to google it to get the download website cause it's not on the repos
[10:31] <YungRipp> Excellent
[10:31] <Gnea> YungRipp: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:31] <toastedmilk> cheslyn, try sudo?
[10:31] <YungRipp> Just add it as an app?
[10:31] <amigadude> how do I run something from the xfce "start" menu as admin?
[10:31] <YungRipp> synaptic, i mean
[10:31] <YungRipp> ok
[10:32] <tasslehoff> YungRipp: the command Gnea gave you will install KDE alongside Gnome, and you choose at login which to run.
[10:32] <PolitikerNEU> YungRipp: install kubuntu-desktop, but there is an article on pure KDE if you really don't want to have gnome installed (you can install both of them side by side)
[10:32] <firecrotch> swagga: You're in luck - I have a Netgear wg111v2, never tried to use it in Linux though
[10:32] <PolitikerNEU> YungRipp: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[10:32] <YungRipp> Ok
[10:32] <YungRipp> cool, thanks
[10:32] <toastedmilk> amigadude, alt+f2
[10:33] <YungRipp> Btw, unlike in many other parts of the internet, you guys are very helpful
[10:33] <diieggo> Hello
[10:33] <firecrotch> swagga: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:34] <amigadude> toastedmilk, while I'm selecting the program from the menu?
[10:34] <amigadude> ...
[10:34] <vigo> swagga: Can you pastebin the output for us?
[10:34] <vigo> !pastebin
[10:35] <diieggo> i need help.. my graphics have error! my video is unichrome igp
[10:35] <amigadude> I was after starting KBE Partition Manager as admin...
[10:35] <swagga> okay sure
[10:36] <Negao> u press alt+f2 and type sudo nameoftheprogram ; tick on th execute on console box
[10:36] <sahil> mine graphic are also down too.
[10:36] <firecrotch> diieggo: VIA Unichrome graphics cards have horrible Linux support
[10:36] <amigadude> Gnome Partition Editor works as is though :) don't seem to be a able to set a partition to NTFS though...
[10:36] <jamiewan> is anyone running hdtv usb stick successfully in Jaunty?
[10:36] <firecrotch> diieggo: what kind of problem are you having?
[10:36] <sahil> is there any graphid driver better than "vessa" in ubuntu
[10:37] <chu_> Does anyone have any experience with an Atheros AR928X Wireless chipset on Ubuntu? (hopefully Jaunty :p)
[10:37] <Lama_Chok> sahil try envy... it will tell u the besh driver for your card
[10:37] <amigadude> sahil, VESA is usually a fall back when there isn't a driver for your card
[10:38] <diieggo> firecrotch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283680/ I open the game
[10:38] <cheslyn> toastedmilk : how ?
[10:38] <sahil> amigadude: yes, vesa is a default driver like "vga" in windows
[10:38] <amigadude> sahil, there maybe one out there but not open source so it can't be included in ubuntu
[10:39] <sahil> Lama_chok : how can i get it??envy?? by simple apt -get install??
[10:39] <vigo> !restricted
[10:39] <swagga>  "iwconfig wlan enc 13:0A:FC:F2:0E' gives me no errors then i use "iwconfig wlan0 essid mywlan" then i use dhcpcd wlan0 -d and i get bash: command not found
[10:39] <firecrotch> !envy | sahil, amigadude
[10:40] <vigo> firecrotch: Thank you.
[10:40] <jamiewan> is anyone running hdtv usb stick successfully in Jaunty?
[10:40] <sahil> ubottu: thanks........:-O
[10:40] <firecrotch> swagga: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[10:40] <amigadude> happy with how this is working out so far... couldn't even get native rez in XP :)
[10:41] <chu_> Does anyone have any experience with an Atheros AR928X Wireless chipset on Ubuntu? (hopefully Jaunty :p)
[10:41] <diieggo> ubottu: i need help for install drivers Via/S3 unichrome :\
[10:42] <amigadude> just need to share folders so I can access stored media from the rest of the network and run xbmc :)
[10:42] <laperr> chu_  try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=894177
[10:44] <amigadude> how do you check which graphics driver u r using?
[10:45] <amigadude> formatting 215GB as FAT32 this might take a while :)
[10:45] <sahil> is there a method of running two installation simultaneously wihtout waiting for the other to finish??
[10:45] <swagga> no
[10:45] <vigo> diieggo: Half Duplex 10mbps?
[10:45] <s3r3n1t7> .181] has quit []
[10:46] <diieggo> vigo: Via/s3 unichrome
[10:46] <jamiewan> is anyone running hdtv usb stick successfully in Jaunty?
[10:46] <Gnea> amigadude: why would you waste that much space on fat32?
[10:46] <sahil> ............
[10:46] <swagga> can a networking expert pls msg me
[10:47] <Gnea> swagga: nope, but the people in #networking can probably help you
[10:47] <vigo> diieggo: Not certain, but this is on the forums, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=897982&highlight=Via%2FS3+unichrome
[10:47] <amigadude> gnea, had a bad experience using non doze filesystems (lost 1TB when my freeNAS server went tits up)... FAT32/NTFS is easy to recover
[10:47] <chu_> laperr, looks promising, cheers.
[10:48] <Gnea> amigadude: well, you said FAT32 - NTFS is, agreeable, much nicer
[10:48] <amigadude> don't seem to be able to format to NTFS... it's shaded on the option list
[10:48] <diieggo> vigo: via/s3 unichrome driver graphic
[10:49] <Gnea> !ntfs | amigadude
[10:49] <Gnea> !ntfs-3g
[10:50] <amigadude> running xubuntu 9.04 thought NTFS-3G was built in?
[10:50] <beatbreak> what does "kernel panic: junk in compressed archive" mean?
[10:50] <Gnea> amigadude: see if it's installed. also, ntfsprogs should help you to get it formatted
[10:50] <Rugart> Hello
[10:50] <shai> How can I use ~/.gtkrc-2.0 to change the font size inside applications (like gnome-terminal)? When I use gtk-font-name = "geneva 12" ; it just changes the size of the menu fonts.
[10:50] <Rugart> i have a question
[10:50] <Rugart> im newbie with ubuntu
[10:51] <Gnea> !ask | Rugart
[10:51] <amigadude> ntfs-3g isn't listed in synaptic
[10:51] <Rugart> i dont know if install ubuntu 8 LTS + KDE or kbuntu 9
[10:51] <Gnea> amigadude: but is it *installed*?  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep ntfs
[10:51] <Rugart> what do you recommends me?
[10:51] <vigo> diieggo: Yes, that is what that page title is, it is a short list, but looks like some fixes and good working paths are there: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=64871891
[10:51] <Gnea> Rugart: I'm guessing you just want to use KDE?
[10:52] <Rugart> yes i like KDE, much nicer than gnome
[10:52] <Rugart> thinks that i comes from windows
[10:52] <Gnea> Rugart: just install Kubuntu then
[10:52] <Rugart> why Gnea?
[10:52] <Gnea> less headaches
[10:52] <amigadude> Gnea, yup 3g is installed so is progs & config
[10:52] <chu_> Ok, so I installed the package and everything, but I don't know if the wireless is working?
[10:53] <chu_> I didn't want to reboot, but if I have to, I will...
[10:53] <Rugart> Gnea why headaches?
[10:53] <vigo> !beta
[10:53] <Rugart> i will find some problems if i install kde in ubuntu?
[10:54] <Gnea> amigadude: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1183543
[10:54] <Gnea> Rugart: you can do it either way, it's up to you really, but you asked for a recommendation so I gave it.
[10:54] <amigadude> Gnea, NTFS is on now... must of been ntfsprogs I needed
[10:55] <Rugart> ok but basically i want know if i will find some incompatibility issue or some problems if i install ubuntu 8 + kde instead kubuntu 9
[10:55] <Gnea> Rugart: just use 9
[10:55] <kokozedman_> hey guys :)
[10:55] <vigo> Rugart: Gnea also helped in a large way by suggesting a Stable release.
[10:55] <Gnea> amigadude: yup
[10:55] <Sagaci> !hi kokozedman_
[10:55] <administrator_> can we use vb 6 on ubuntu 9
[10:55] <Sagaci> !hi | kokozedman_
[10:56] <kokozedman_> anyone knows how to get IMQ in Ubuntu 9.04 (Desktop)
[10:56] <administrator_> can i use vb 6 on ubuntu 9
[10:56] <Gnea> !repeat | administrator_
[10:56] <Gnea> okay, this theme has got to go...
[10:56] <vigo> !9.04
[10:57] <kokozedman_> administrator_: what is vb 6? visual basic?
[10:57] <administrator_> ya visual basic
[10:57] <kokozedman_> administrator_: can't you use a virtual machine?
[10:57] <kokozedman_> install a windows, and then install your vb6 in there
[10:57] <administrator_> its mean ?
[10:58] <kokozedman_> you could install VMware Workstation (which what i'm currently using)
[10:58] <Komak57> i have a device thats so obsolete, the drivers dont seem to exist... are there any guides i can look into making my own driver for it? (serial/usb port device)
[10:58] <administrator_> i wanna know that i can install and work with vb 6 on ubuntu
[10:58] <chu_> Argh, that didn't work!
[10:58] <kokozedman_> administrator_: download it from the official site; it actually works right-out-of-the-box on ubuntu
[10:58] <Rugart> Yes Gnea
[10:58] <kokozedman_> administrator_: i'm sure you can; just get that vmware installed
[10:58] <Rugart> i appreciate very much it
[10:59] <Rugart> the only problem that i see its the support
[10:59] <Rugart> the 8 LTS is maintained until 2011
[10:59] <sahil> k
[10:59] <Rugart> instead kubuntu 9 2010
[11:00]  * kokozedman_ hopes someone actually looks at his question :-/
[11:00] <Rugart> i was reading and people says that is more happy with ubuntu 8 than 9
[11:00] <firecrotch> kokozedman_: what is IMQ?
[11:00] <leaf-sheep> firecrotch: IM QUIET
[11:01] <kokozedman_> firecrotch: InterMediate Queuing Device
[11:01] <Komak57> i need a guide to help me start building a driver (for ubuntu if necessary) for a 'LM057QC1T01' Sharp 5.3' LCD touchscreen in which i have a full list of specs for
[11:01] <kokozedman_> http://www.linuximq.net/
[11:01] <tasslehoff> When I tell Ubuntu to remember applications when logging out, does anyone know where the information is stored?
[11:01] <chu_> Does anyone have any experience with an Atheros AR928X PC-E Wireless Card?
[11:01] <administrator_> i have vb 6 cd so can i use it to install on ubuntu
[11:02] <Komak57> chu_ i was dealing with one the other week, whats up
[11:02] <amigadude> anyone had any problems with NTFS-3G?
[11:02] <kokozedman_> administrator_: have you even tried to use a Virtual Machine? i'm telling you it's quite possible; it's like you're running a full-blown windows inside Ubuntu, so obviously, you can install anything in there, even your favorite games
[11:02] <vigo> Rugart: What driver?
[11:03] <amigadude> the last mac version I used screwed the drive
[11:03] <kokozedman_> firecrotch: basically, it's a Network Policing with ability to use egress qdiscs on ingress
[11:03] <firecrotch> kokozedman_: from what I've read, it's a kernel patch?
[11:03] <chu_> Hey Komak57, I'm not sure what the problem is anymore, could we take this to a PM? I have a fairly large story I guess.
[11:04] <firecrotch> kokozedman_: along with a patch for iptables?
[11:04] <diieggo> How to install driver for video card?!
[11:04] <kokozedman_> firecrotch: yes, but i don't want to recompile my kernel to get that included
[11:04] <kokozedman_> firecrotch: yes; because it will add the --todev parameter to iptables (i guess)
[11:05] <sahil> atunes rock....buddy : the best mplayer for linux
[11:05] <diieggo> How to install driver for video card?
[11:05] <SockPants> hey all
[11:05] <dawson> Hello
[11:05] <SockPants> whenever i don something i'm probably not allowed to do on my nfs client, the server breaks and it keeps reporting 'lockd not responding'
[11:05] <SockPants> *do
[11:05] <Sagaci> !best | sahil
[11:06] <YungRipp> Do apt-get downloads pause and resume?
[11:06] <YungRipp> e.g., say my internet connection goes out
[11:06] <sahil> oh....this "ubottu" sucks.
[11:06] <kokozedman_> YungRipp: 1up
[11:07] <YungRipp> Sweet
[11:07] <YungRipp> so i can take off, go home then:P
[11:07] <firecrotch> kokozedman_: as far as I can see, the only way to do it is to compile your own kernel
[11:07] <kokozedman_> YungRipp: nope, i don't know! i'm just telling, that i also want to know the same thing
[11:07] <YungRipp> ahh
[11:07] <YungRipp> oh
[11:07] <YungRipp> hehe
[11:07] <SockPants> might as well try
[11:07] <Rugart> driver vigo?
[11:08] <Rugart> i dont know but i installed kde in a ubuntu 9 (with vmware)
[11:08] <SockPants> unless you its a very very big download and you have a verey very crappy conneciton or a quota
[11:08] <Rugart> and i had my first bug
[11:08] <diieggo> I digit glxinfo | grep rendering and Linux hangs! whats why?
[11:08] <Rugart> one document start to open unlimited times
[11:08] <Rugart> i dont know if that is because im using kde in ubuntu
[11:08] <GiveMeWeed> hi, im having very low speeds with my realtek wireless in ubuntu, in windows it goes to 8 mb in ubuntu goes to 1.5
[11:08] <Rugart> or why
[11:09] <GiveMeWeed> any hints
[11:09] <vigo> Rugart: Yes, you said you wanted to compile a driver, there are lots of those how to on the Forums.
[11:10] <natschil> !realtek
[11:10] <vigo> Rugart: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=64872334
[11:10] <natschil> !realtek | GiveMeWeed
[11:14] <adeodatus> hello
[11:15] <amigadude> any optimisation needed for the intel 945 GFX or is it good out the box on 9.04
[11:15] <jeroen_> hello
[11:15] <amigadude> hello
[11:15] <Rugart> thanks ~vigo
[11:15] <Gnea> !intel | amigadude
[11:15] <vigo> Rugart: You are quite welcome.
[11:16] <amigadude> Gnea, it's the built-in  on this N330 based mini-itx
[11:16] <Gnea> amigadude: yeah, it's an intel.
[11:17] <whyking> hi
[11:17] <whyking> I just upgraded to karmic beta and I have a lot of apparmor denied in dmesg for mysqld and firefox...
[11:17] <lynch69> hello everybody
[11:18] <GiveMeWeed> how can i know whats the wireless realtec i have?
[11:18] <amigadude> only gotta show the odd video and serve files quietly (and it is very quiet after the full ATX 2600XP dino I was using)
[11:18] <lynch69> can anyone help me with an nm-applet error in karmic beta?
[11:18] <AnirbanHazra> How to install "wget" in Hardy ?
[11:18] <lynch69> nm-applet in karmic absolutely refuses to save any settings
[11:19] <Gnea> AnirbanHazra: sudo apt-get install wget
[11:20] <joaopinto> !karmic | lynch69
[11:20] <lynch69> oh
[11:20] <lynch69> thanks
[11:21] <lynch69> i'll swith channels
[11:21] <Gnea> AnirbanHazra: I just told you, are you blind?
[11:21] <Nigel_> hello, anybody who can tell me how to remove "marble" (Education) in Xubuntu 9.04? Maybe a german native speaker could help me, my english is terrible ;-)
[11:21] <AzizLight> how can I activate the zsh correction please? (ie when I type dtae I want it to ask me if I meant date)
[11:21] <Gnea> !de | Nigel_
[11:22] <nadarilla> nigel, you must remove that by crashing your computer
[11:22] <Nigel_> sry, my first IRC-Chat
[11:22] <Nigel_> nadrilla, thank you so much...
[11:22] <Gnea> nadarilla: we do not provide misleading information, please do not do so. thanks.
[11:24] <sahil> ya ya ay....
[11:24] <Komak57> can i get a hand locating a guide to manually CREATE a Serial port display driver?
[11:24] <elad`> I have two monitors plugged in via DVI, but Ubuntu only recognizes one. Help?
[11:26] <elad`> Moreover, I have this annoying pink rectangle at the top-left corner of my screen, saying "unknown".
[11:26] <Gnea> elad`: what gfx card?
[11:26] <elad`> GeForce 8800 GTS
[11:27] <Gnea> you need to install the nvidia drver
[11:27] <elad`> It's installed.
[11:27] <Komak57> gnea, he might already have it installed, but not activated
[11:27] <GiveMeWeed> i found a bug dudes
[11:27] <GiveMeWeed> shoud i report it?
[11:27] <GiveMeWeed> i dunno how?
[11:28] <Gnea> elad`: does glxgears work?
[11:28] <Gnea> !bug | GiveMeWeed
[11:28] <godstar> elad`: have you tried EnvyNG?
[11:28] <elad`> What's that?
[11:28] <godstar> Look in Synaptic for it
[11:28] <diieggo> ./autogen.sh: 9: autoreconf: not found  WHY?!
[11:28] <godstar> elad`: *
[11:28] <azlon> i press WinKey+R and now am in some kind of crazy zoom mode... how do i get out of this?
[11:28] <elad`> I'm inside the nvidia tool right now. What should I do?
[11:29] <GiveMeWeed> i have the ubuntu in portuguese, and the desktop folder apears as "ambiente de trabalho" i renamed it to Desktop to its easier in terminal, but a new ambiente de trabalho folder apeard
[11:29] <elad`> I see "X screens: 1"
[11:29] <AzizLight> how can I activate the zsh correction please? (ie when I type dtae I want it to ask me if I meant date)
[11:29] <elad`> Oh, wait.
[11:29] <tehbaut> will boot time for ubuntu increase as I use it more?
[11:29] <tehbaut> 4:58 for vista to boot and load startup items (after 1 year of usage, plus a recent pear-down of startup items)
[11:29] <tehbaut> 41 seconds for win7 to boot and load startup items (minimal programs installed)
[11:30] <godstar> elad`: The easiest thing by be to go to /system/preferences/administration/hardware and allow it to scan your system for avail drivers.
[11:30] <mr_daniel> azlon: naybe you are using the compiz zoom function which can used with WinKey + Mouse_Scroll
[11:30] <elad`> brb
[11:30] <azlon> mr_daniel: awesome! thanks!
[11:31] <mr_daniel> azlon: try to hold the WinKey and Mouse_Scroll, and scroll 'out'
[11:31] <mr_daniel> azlon: np
[11:31] <diieggo> please why? ./autogen.sh: 9: autoreconf: not found
[11:32] <splashote> hey there
[11:32] <jrib> diieggo: what are you installing?
[11:32] <splashote> anybody present who know phc linux?
[11:32] <splashote> +s
[11:32] <Gnea> elad`: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Configure_Dual_Monitors_with_nVidia
[11:32] <diieggo> jrib: the unichrome graphics
[11:32] <diieggo> jrib: http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/
[11:32] <splashote> rename splashote:need help with pvc linux
[11:33] <venusdoom> hello!
[11:33] <joaopinto> diieggo, is that the unichrome graphics driver ?
[11:33] <jrib> diieggo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome is in the repositories
[11:34] <phretor> hello - what would you suggest to create/manage vmserver ubuntu virtual machines? I have tried python-vm-builder but it's a little buggy and, besides that, it creates VMs with invalid hard drives (according to VMware Infrastructure Web Access)
[11:34] <elad`> Thanks, but I believe I'm halfway done. Is there a reason why the left screen appears to default to the, errr, default screen?
[11:34] <phretor> I mean, what is the best practice for real-world servers?
[11:34] <diieggo> jrib: Oo thanks
[11:35] <joaopinto> phretor, better check on a vmware related support channel/forum
[11:35] <joaopinto> phretor, and if you believe there is a bug with python-vm-builder, report it at launchpad
[11:36] <phretor> joaopinto: oh, that bug is already reported though not fixed
[11:36] <elad`> How do I associate different screens to different desktops?
[11:36] <joaopinto> ah ok :\
[11:36] <elad`> How do I make the gnome panels appear on both if I'm not using different desktops for them?
[11:37] <madrazr> hello everyone, I am trying to download Karmic Beta using zsync and I get this error, could not read control file from URL http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso.zsync
[11:37] <madrazr> can some one help me how to download using zsync?
[11:37] <der_martin> hi folks :)
[11:37] <der_martin> does anybody have a solution for the python-newt-returned-error-code-1-problem ?
[11:37] <joaopinto> madrazr, it looks like the .zscyn file is missing on the server, nothing you can do about besides report it
[11:38] <joaopinto> !karmic | madrazr
[11:38] <venusdoom> There is problem,i remove some software and then exterminal couldn't work!Here is the quesion:*** VTE ***: Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap'.Can anyone help me.
[11:38] <der_martin> can't install stuff via synaptic, because I can't update it and I can't uninstall it
[11:38] <madrazr> joaopinto: Oh Ok thanks a lot
[11:39] <der_martin> so far no solution : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/newt/+bug/436244
[11:39] <deejaydblock> anyone here?
[11:39] <venusdoom> anyone help me!
[11:39] <gypsymauro> I want to delete all rows containing "foo" in several gzipped file, there is an easy way to achieve this?
[11:39] <Gnea> !anyone
[11:40] <der_martin> same here: anyone ??? :)
[11:40] <jrib> gypsymauro: grep -v foo
[11:40] <der_martin> I want to be able to install software again
[11:40] <deejaydblock> wow.
[11:40] <Gnea> don't use anyone :)
[11:40] <deejaydblock> that's sad.
[11:40] <gypsymauro> jrib: ?
[11:40] <pedroamorim> hi there
[11:40] <jrib> gypsymauro: the answer to your question...
[11:41] <gypsymauro> I need something like a "zsed" :)
[11:41] <pedroamorim> there are any other files for translation instead of .po POT files?
[11:41] <mr_daniel> der_martin: you can also update your system with 'apt-get update' in your console
[11:41] <deejaydblock> Should it take 10+ hours for me to upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic?
[11:41] <pedroamorim> linux software for example KDE, Gnome, OpenOffice
[11:41] <gypsymauro> jrib: you mean recreating file?
[11:41] <sahil> do u guys any better .rar crack then rarcrack??
[11:41] <jrib> gypsymauro: I just told you of one way to achieve it...
[11:42] <chu_> Here's to hoping my wireless works.
[11:42] <jrib> gypsymauro: sure, if that's a problem, use something like sed '/foo/d'  ...
[11:43] <Gnea> gypsymauro: the file is gzip'd, that means it's in a binary format. you can't edit a binary file with an editor that's meant for non-binary editting.
[11:43] <splashote> how do I actually do this: Now you can unload your "old" acpi-cpufreq and load "phc-intel".
[11:43] <der_martin> mr_daniel: sure, but I can't install software, because apt always tries to fix this package
[11:43] <der_martin> then returning the given error
[11:43] <jrib> gypsymauro: oh I see, I missed your gzip comment
[11:44] <deejaydblock> Should it take 10+ hours for me to upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic?
[11:44] <diieggo> jrib: don't have for athlon
[11:44] <jrib> diieggo: what is "athlon"... and what doesn't have what?
[11:44] <der_martin> mr_daniel: even apt-get install -f doesn't work
[11:45] <diieggo> jrib: this page have amd64 and i386
[11:45] <splashote> sorry for bumping, but how do I actually do this: Now you can unload your "old" acpi-cpufreq and load "phc-intel".
[11:45] <jrib> diieggo: right... the two main versions of ubuntu...  You aren't supposed to be using the webpage.  Use Synaptic in your system
[11:46] <der_martin> another idea concerning my problem with python-newt ???
[11:46] <jrib> der_martin: repeat your question
[11:46] <AncientSocrates> hello
[11:46] <diieggo> jrib: ok
[11:47] <AncientSocrates> does anyone know how can i set a process to realtime in windows7?
[11:47] <AncientSocrates> i know this is ubuntu but i am desparate
[11:47] <der_martin> jrib:ok: can't install packages, because python-newt seems to be broken, ca update, but can't install new packages, because python-newt returns error code 1
[11:47] <der_martin> even apt-get install -f doesn't solve the problem
[11:47] <jrib> der_martin: paste actual output
[11:47] <der_martin> known bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/newt/+bug/436244
[11:48] <der_martin> maybe some has found a solution here :)
[11:48] <der_martin> jrib: one moment, please
[11:48] <der_martin> Die folgenden Pakete haben nicht erfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
[11:48] <der_martin>   python-newt: Hängt ab: libnewt0.52 (= 0.52.2-11.3ubuntu3) aber 0.52.2-11.3ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
[11:48] <der_martin> E: Nicht erfüllte Abhängigkeiten. Versuchen Sie »apt-get -f install« ohne jegliche Pakete (oder geben Sie eine Lösung an).
[11:48] <der_martin> it's german,sorry
[11:49] <jrib> der_martin: run the cmommand with LANGUAGE=en_US or whatever
[11:49] <jrib> der_martin: and use pastebin
[11:50] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[11:50] <godstar> AncientSocrates: open taskmanager, right click process and set as realtime. Check #windows for further questions.
[11:50] <der_martin> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m3e84c3e3
[11:50] <godstar> ActionParsnip1: Sup
[11:51] <alokito> !hi | ActionParsnip1
[11:51] <jrib> der_martin: do you understand the error?
[11:51] <der_martin> something about a wrong link to the recommended python version
[11:52] <AncientSocrates> godstar: i know that. the problem is it doesnt let me choose realtime, only up to high, cause i have no rights
[11:52] <diieggo> jrib: i have the drivers but my game crash
[11:52] <jrib> der_martin: pastebin your /usr/share/python/debian_defaults
[11:52] <der_martin> jrib: maybe purge python and reinstall ?
[11:53] <godstar> AncientSocrates: lookup how to disable UAC if 7 is running by default.
[11:53] <godstar> AncientSocrates: /join #windows
[11:53] <der_martin> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m49e32b3c
[11:54] <jrib> der_martin: and the output of: python --version
[11:54] <der_martin> jrib: Python 2.6.2
[11:55] <der_martin> jrib: change default version to 2.6.2 ?
[11:55] <diieggo> jrib: have solution?
[11:55] <Sagaci> is the ubuntu desktop edition just the ubuntu server edition with ubuntu-desktop installed??
[11:56] <ActionParsnip1> Sagaci: no the server has a slightly different kernel
[11:56] <jrib> diieggo: no
[11:56] <jrib> diieggo: what game...?
[11:56] <der_martin> jrib: worked, thank you! :) :)
[11:56] <diieggo> jrib: Tibia :)
[11:56] <jrib> der_martin: ok, but you should check why it is like that.  That sounds like a separate bug
[11:56] <ActionParsnip1> Sagaci: its opomised more for background activities, it also has PAE enabled by default which isnt in the desktop kernel
[11:57] <der_martin> jrib: I will
[11:57] <ActionParsnip1> Sagaci: if you need a desktop system with a full desktop, install desktop
[11:57] <jrib> der_martin: also, it should probably just be 2.6
[11:58] <Sagaci> ActionParsnip1: i have 9.04 desktop installed, i was just wondering of the differences
[11:58] <puting> hi
[11:58] <puting> hi
[11:58] <puting> ;;
[11:58] <puting> what'up man
[11:58] <puting> -_-
[11:59] <ActionParsnip1> Sagaci: the default install for server has no x server which makes it more secure (less services running) as well as use less resources
[11:59] <ActionParsnip1> Sagaci: it also concentrates on background daemons and expects to just sit at a logon prompt
[12:00] <diieggo> jrib: How do I know which video driver is installed?
[12:00] <jrib> diieggo: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log I guess
[12:00] <Sagaci> can you browse the internet from the commandline in ubuntu
[12:00] <jrib> Sagaci: yes
[12:01] <ActionParsnip1> Sagaci: sure, lynx2 and links exists
[12:01] <ActionParsnip1> Sagaci: as does w3m
[12:01] <ActionParsnip1> !info w3m
[12:02] <Sagaci> so obviously for any more advanced things, like flash etc, you'd need desktop and X to run
[12:02] <meatbun> /join
[12:02] <|ns|nR8> ubuntu beta is out ?
[12:03] <Sagaci> |ns|nR8: #ubuntu+1
[12:03] <elad`> How do I restart X?
[12:03] <godstar> elad`: startx
[12:03] <elad`> From within X, I mean.
[12:03] <beasty> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:04] <beasty> elad`: that's one of the posibilities :p
[12:04] <elad`> Will logging out and logging back in do the trick?
[12:04] <godstar> elad`: yes
[12:04] <elad`> brb
[12:04] <CentralCoastOnli> Anyone know how to capture a window in Ubuntu and stream it on Ustream via a webcam capture output
[12:05] <Sonic> mm
[12:05] <Sonic> Anyone?
[12:05] <beasty> Sonic: is your gf streaming and you want to share it with us ?
[12:05] <OerHeks> Sonic, remote desktop does that for me
[12:06] <ZogG> irc.freenode.org
[12:06] <Sonic> No.. I'm starting a online radio scanner
[12:06] <Sonic> and wanna stream the screen to the viewers
[12:06] <Sonic> so they can see what freq its on
[12:06] <Sonic> basicly its via ustream
[12:07] <Sonic> which uses a Webcam output to stream it to the web
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> Sonic: you MAY be able to use vlc to stream, not sure
[12:07] <chu_> Anyway willing to help with epic wireless problems? My Atheros AR928X doesn't appear to be doing *anything*, though it worked up until last night...
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> Sonic: i dont use webcams though (too creepy)
[12:07] <Sonic> hehe yeah i hear ya..
[12:07] <Sonic> lot of freaky ppl out there
[12:08] <Harold_parker> anyone else been slow to update all day?
[12:08] <Sonic> mmm any other ideas other then vlc?
[12:08] <Harold_parker> epic slow
[12:08] <chu_> Servers are probably taking a hammering though.
[12:09] <jlie> Howdy, looking for some help getting klibido to connect through stunnel on a new jaunty j 9.04 install...this the place?
[12:09] <Harold_parker> Chu_ you've noticed?
[12:09] <Harold_parker> Chu_ why are they taking a hammering?
[12:09] <chu_> Everyone's downloading the beta.
[12:09] <chu_> karmic beta.
[12:09] <Harold_parker> ahhh i see
[12:09] <Harold_parker> right
[12:10] <Sonic> choose a diff mirror
[12:10] <Sonic> problem solved ;)
[12:11] <elad`> I have two monitors. I'd like for different desktops to be associated with them, so that when I ctrl-alt-left or ctrl-alt-right, I'll move between the monitors. Can I do that?
[12:11] <alokito> anyone knows how to manually edit gnome network manager mobile broadband configuration?
[12:11] <elad`> Right now, if I have an application running on a desktop associated with one screen, I can't move it to the next (or at least, I don't know how).
[12:12] <alokito> I want to connect using a bluetooth supported mobile
[12:12] <Harold_parker> good idea Sonic, i like this server but hey why not try another
[12:12] <chu_> If my wireless card shows up in lspci, but there's no wireless interface listed in iwconfig, do I have to associate wlan0 to the wireless device or something?
[12:12] <elad`> Also, switching between the desktops associated with the different monitors appears to be accomplished by moving the mouse off the edge of the screen. But how do I do that with the keyboard?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: the driver does that, lspci will tell you any hardware attatched to the PCI bus, supported or not
[12:13] <elad`> Also, when I launch a new application, I don't know on which screen it will end up.
[12:13] <elad`> Help?
[12:13] <Seth_> hey simple question, i am getting a netbook tomorrow - BenQ joybook u101 - and was wondering if the netbook remix was any good... i have heard it's a piece of shit
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> elad`: the keyboard is universlly available to both, the X server you have has simply stretch over 2 displays
[12:13] <jlie> Getting this error when I start klibido:  1, 1: Thread::slotRetryTimeout
[12:13] <jlie> Resuming thread
[12:13] <jlie> Cannot connect
[12:13] <jlie>     Klibido is set to connect to localhost:119, and my stunnel.conf points that to the giganews 443 port.  Thoughts on what might be wrong?
[12:13] <FloodBot1> jlie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:14] <elad`> ActionParsnip, no. I appear to have two X-server sessions going.
[12:14] <jrib> Seth_: try it and use it if you like it
[12:14] <Seth_> in your opinion
[12:14] <jrib> Seth_: my opinion is pointless, you're the one that will be using it.  Load it up in vbox right now if you want
[12:15] <chu_> ActionParsnip1, I have reverted back to ndiswrapper and networkmanager, I have found the latest Atheros WinXP driver, and extracted the .inf and .sys binary. I have tried to tell ndiswrapper to use it, but t gives me an error, something about ndiswrapper.ko format not supported (it was compiled for an earlier kernel is what I get out of that), so I'm at the point where I need to compile the driver for 2.6.30 I would guess?
[12:15] <elad`> ActionParsnip1, I have four desktops associated with the left monitor session, and four with the right. I don't know how to move applications between them (only within each quartet).
[12:15] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: makes sense
[12:16] <chu_> Heh, don't spose you'd have an idea where to look? :p
[12:16] <ActionParsnip1> elad`: just drag it over?
[12:16] <elad`> ActionParsnip1, impossible.
[12:16] <kokozedman_> anyone knows what is the kind of qdisc that i can use on ingress?
[12:16] <elad`> "Configuration: Separate X screen"
[12:16] <kokozedman_> i want to cap incoming bandwidth
[12:16] <diieggo> jrib: i open the game and error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283746/
[12:17] <ActionParsnip1> elad`: you can have a seperate X screen on each but i am unsure of mouse / keyoard handling
[12:17] <jrib> diieggo: don't know, maybe your card isn't capable of playing it
[12:17] <OerHeks> chu_: i had problems with an other atheros pcmia wifi, but this link helped me out too >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=894177
[12:18] <chu_> ActionParsnip1, I found a small tutorial for compiling the latest version of ndiswrapper, should be good, and cheers OerHeks.
[12:18] <jrib> diieggo: try searching bugs.ubuntu.com for the error I suppose
[12:18] <chu_> Thanks for the help guys.
[12:19] <Komak57> good luck chu_
[12:19] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: one step closer eh :)
[12:20] <elad`> ActionParsnip1, could you find some tutorial for me? I'm not really good at looking those things up.
[12:20] <ActionParsnip1> !dualhead
[12:20] <ActionParsnip1> elad`: you'll be messing in xorg.conf LOTS
[12:20] <jlie> any thoughts on this error message from klibido?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/283748/
[12:21] <ActionParsnip1> elad`: you will have to setup 4 video cards, 4 monitors, then 4 screens, then 1 server with teh 4 screens
[12:21] <chu_> OerHeks, was your solution to just update and use the ath9k drivers?
[12:22] <chu_> This just leads me in circles now.
[12:22] <elad`> Four? Why?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip1> elad`: didnt you say you had 4 monitors?
[12:23] <OerHeks> chu_: you run 64 bit ?
[12:24] <Ximbinha> test
[12:24] <Ximbinha> So what?
[12:24] <Ximbinha> Why do you people use Ubuntu?
[12:24] <elad`> ActionParsnip1, no. Just two. I have four /desktops/ associated with them. You know, those virtual desktops that come with Ubuntu by default?
[12:24] <Ximbinha> Do you people don't have skills enough for debian?
[12:24] <chu_> OerHeks, 32-bit I believe.
[12:25] <jpds> Ximbinha: Because it rocks?
[12:25] <vigo> ActionParsnip1: How do I find what servers are running and then stop them, if I do not use them?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> elad`: oh i see
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> vigo: bum
[12:25] <Ximbinha> If with rocks you mean slower and less stable, yes!
[12:25] <jrib> !ot | Ximbinha
[12:25] <elad`> ActionParsnip1, so? Is it possible?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> vigo: ps -ef | less     will show you whats running
[12:25] <vigo> ActionParsnip1: Thank you
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> elad`: i gotcha
[12:26] <ActionParsnip1> elad`: so you will need 2 X servers then.
[12:26] <elad`> I believe I have two running at the moment.
[12:26] <elad`> In the nvidia-settings tool, I have chosen X Server Display Configuration -> Configuration: Separate X screen
[12:27] <Ximbinha> jrib, wHAT?
[12:27] <jpds> Ximbinha: Well, Debian has older and more tested software, but that's offtopic for this channel.
[12:27] <elad`> I could pastebin my xorg.conf.
[12:27] <ActionParsnip1> elad`: here is an example file for 2 displays with 2 seperate x servers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=447511
[12:27] <Ximbinha> jpds, debian being better is off-topic, of course it is.
[12:27] <jamiewan> is anyone running hdtv usb stick successfully in Jaunty?
[12:28] <Elone> is there a channel for beta 9.10?
[12:28] <Ximbinha> jamiewan, I never did it.
[12:28] <DJones> !karmic | Elone
[12:28] <Elone> thanks
[12:28] <jamiewan> Ximbinha: did what
[12:28] <ActionParsnip1> elad`: i made a 2-seater once (2 mice, 2 monitors, 2 keyboards, 1 PC)
[12:28] <OerHeks> chu_ pytheas22 reply:25 @ july 29 did work fine >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=894177&page=3
[12:28] <geekbuntu> i was setting up django on my home pc last night (ubuntu) after i installed, when i try to create a project, i get an error when i try to create a project: http://brainfart.no-ip.org/source.php?pasteid=957      using this tut: http://jeffbaier.com/articles/installing-django-on-an-ubuntu-linux-server/ i adjusted all the paths in the tut to my structure /usr/bin instead of /usr/local/bin
[12:28] <Ximbinha> !debian
[12:29] <elad`> I'd like to use the same keyboard and mouse for both. And I want to be able to move applications between the two X servers. Can I do that?
[12:30] <elad`> How does one move applications between x-server sessions?
[12:32] <AnirbanHazra> Most of my installation script are failing showing something like libselinux.so.1: cannot open shared object file: Error 23 .
[12:34] <goksu> hello everyone. :) can somebody help me on shareing a 3g connection to my wifi lan? firestarter is acting.
[12:34] <ziroday> goksu: had a look at !inetsharing?
[12:34] <goksu> !inetsharing
[12:35] <goksu> ok donkey. I'll keep reading some more.
[12:36] <ziroday> goksu: have fun!
[12:36] <goksu> what will we do without the bots to help. :)
[12:37] <AnirbanHazra> or something llike this : apt-extracttemplates: error while loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot open shared object file: Error 23
[12:37] <hechu> !gnome
[12:37] <jdv> !freenode > jdv
[12:37] <hechu> !bot
[12:38] <alabd> Good day every one ,modem chipset is conexant 56K HSFi and it's dell driver is installed and works for dial up connections now ...How to find if modem support fax or not in ubuntu ?
[12:38] <AnirbanHazra>  Plz help !
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> Hmmm
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> I thought most dial up modems had fax support.  alabd  try installing some fax software and see if it works perhaps?
[12:40] <alabd> Dr_Willis: thanks efax-gtk is installed but how to use it?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  no idea.. try running and reading its help docs ?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> !fax
[12:41] <chu_> Damnit, no difference.
[12:41] <sahil> i need to crack a rar file password........any idea how to do it??
[12:41] <Maximo> ./quit joining military going with Ubuntu
[12:41] <ghatak> can i ask ubuntu on mac related questions here ?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> sahil:   perhaps  someone in #windows may know of software to do it via wine.
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> ghatak:  yes. they get asked all the time.
[12:42] <sahil> Dr_Willis: i need sth in ubuntu.....
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> sahil:  then you are proberly out of luck.. as i said there MAY be some tools to do it that you can use witn wine.
[12:43] <chu_> Does Ubuntu handle all wireless drivers automatically? If you aren't using ndiswrapper, how do you configure/manage your wireless card's driver?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> sahil:  ive seen very few 'rar' utilities/extras for linux.
[12:43] <ghatak> Ok, so I want to instal Ubuntu on my Macbook Pro (3,1). I have the live CD in the drive, when I reboot i see the grub for live cd, however when I select the option to try ubuntu, it never boots into Linux. what is going wrong here ?
[12:43] <sken> ghatak make a bootable usb and you are the man
[12:44] <Ximbinha> How do I use freebsd WITH ubuntu?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Ximbinha:  they are both operating systems.. clarify what you mean.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> saying 'WITH' - doesnt really say much  :)
[12:44] <Ximbinha> I want the bsd kernel with ubuntu
[12:44] <ghatak> sken: eh? but CD is bootable, why do I need usb ?
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Ximbinha:  good luck with that.
[12:45] <Ximbinha> ?
[12:45] <cybersplice> Ximbinha: Yes, seconded. Good luck. That will be extremely difficult.
[12:45] <Prajjwal> hi, i JUST re-installed ubuntu on my computer, and it appears that i forgot the password ..... is there a way to reset it ????
[12:45] <cybersplice> Ximbinha: Well. Compared to doing it with the likes of Gentoo.
[12:45] <Ximbinha> linux is a crao
[12:45] <Ximbinha> crap*
[12:46] <cybersplice> Oh, is it? Damn.
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> Prajjwal:  you frogot it in the last 30 min? :)  you could boot a live cd or rescue mode , and set iot to somthing
[12:46] <jamiewan> Ximbinha: no it not but your spellin is
[12:46] <Khalid> hey guys, anybody can help me with this thread please => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8036320
[12:46] <David-T> Ximbinha: I suggest you don't install a linux distro, then.
[12:46] <ubuntistas> ghatak  your cd drive works properly?
[12:46] <Prajjwal> well the password i THOUGHT i put in didnt work ...
[12:46] <Dijkstra> Prajjwal: sudo rm -rf /*
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> Prajjwal:  be sure your caps lock key isent on/off i guess. and reset the password via live cd, or rescue mode
[12:47] <ghatak> ubuntistas: I think so, I used the same drive to burn the disk, so i suppose. Never the less I was under the impression that I could not boot from USB on Macbook pro ?
[12:47] <Ximbinha> Prajjwal, Try windows
[12:47] <Prajjwal> Dijkstra, correct me if i m wrong .... but wouldnt sudo require my pw ???
[12:47] <Ximbinha> It works out of the box
[12:47] <Prajjwal> and Dr_Willis thanks ...
[12:47] <chu_> Hah, pwned.
[12:47] <Prajjwal> Ximbinha, i did .....
[12:47] <Ximbinha> And doesn't needs to type on terminal and shit
[12:48] <Dijkstra> Prajjwal: my bad
[12:48] <ubuntistas> ok ghatak just try my option if you want
[12:48] <nagyv> hi! I have an old laptop w/ an old xubuntu (feisty), and would like to upgrade it. Its CD-ROM doesn't work. Is there an easy way to upgrade it to Jaunty?
[12:48] <Prajjwal> just cause it works in no way shape or form makes it less crappier ...
[12:48] <Ximbinha> Or care about stupid files permissions
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade | nagyv
[12:48]  * Dr_Willis clicks 100 times on the windows UAC to change an icon in his machine.. yea.. right..
[12:49] <cybersplice> Where's an @ when you need one, eh?
[12:49] <elky> Dijkstra, please do not utter that command even as a joke.
[12:49] <Ximbinha> Dr_Willis, unlike linux you can disable that
[12:49] <OerHeks> Ximbinha: i wouldn't bash MS ... ehh ...MS stands 4 Mark Shuttleworth or Microsoft ???
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> cybersplice:  in #BSD where all the cool people hang out.
[12:49] <cybersplice> Haha.
[12:49] <sahil> how can i see the running process in ubuntu
[12:49] <sahil> ?
[12:50] <cybersplice> sahil: ps -A
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> sahil:  ps command :)
[12:50] <Ximbinha> ctrl alt backspace
[12:50] <sahil> thanks
[12:50] <Dijkstra> elky: ok, i'll try
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> sahil: ps -ef | less
[12:51] <Ximbinha> Oh, cut the crap. Why this anger because microsoft profit and you not?
[12:51] <chu_> *Sigh* what to do...
[12:51] <ActionParsnip1> Ximbinha: linux profits too
[12:51] <cybersplice> Yes, Canonical make absolutely no money.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip1> Ximbinha: check the profit reports for redhat
[12:51]  * cybersplice eyeroll.
[12:51] <chu_> Yeah, because he said Canonical.
[12:51] <Ximbinha> Canonical wants profit like microsoft.
[12:51]  * chalcedony smiles
[12:51] <chu_> I can see it.
[12:51] <Ximbinha> Haha
[12:52] <Boohbah> remember, trolls will die if you don't feed them.
[12:52] <chu_> Ximbinha: linux profits too
[12:52] <chalcedony> ((((((( ActionParsnip1 ))))))))
[12:52] <chu_> Ximbinha: linux profits too
[12:52] <Guest29526> Ximbinha: microsoft do not deserve the porfit , unfai monoploly
[12:52] <FloodBot1> chu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:52] <AnirbanHazra> most of my scripts are failing after showing something like  "apt-extracttemplates: error while loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot open shared object file: Error 23"
[12:52] <ActionParsnip1> hi chalcedony
[12:52] <chalcedony> :))
[12:52] <chu_> whoops
[12:52] <jerknextdoor> whoa...am i missing the -offtopic or are you guys just wacky tonight.
[12:52] <Boohbah> jerknextdoor: wacky
[12:52] <Ximbinha> jerknextdoor, nobody asked if it is off topic
[12:52] <Ximbinha> so shut up
[12:52] <Boohbah> jerknextdoor: it happens before every release
[12:52] <Ximbinha> rodei
[12:52] <Boohbah> Ximbinha: bad choice :)
[12:53] <cybersplice> Hm. I hope heartbeat etc is in the new LTS.
[12:53] <Khalid> ;_;
[12:53] <cybersplice> HAH!
[12:53] <cybersplice> Pwned.
[12:53] <cybersplice> I sat with 8.04 for ages trying to plug away at Heartbeat.
[12:53] <Boohbah> cybersplice: would that be the 10.04 'L' release?
[12:53] <Guest29526> what net ubuntu called , squishy antalope ?
[12:54] <cybersplice> Boohbah: Yes. I haven't looked yet.  :D
[12:54] <Guest29526> new release*
[12:54] <Boohbah> Guest29526: hehe i like that one :)
[12:54] <jamiewan> Ximbinah: microsoft cocks just want the cash not interested in the user at all, release an OS not finished and u spent the next year doing updates and patches to fix what shoul of been right from the start
[12:54] <piquadrat-> Hi! When I installed Ubuntu, I let it manage my whole disk, it created a encrypted device and an LVM inside it. I have to install Windows on the same disk now and would like to shrink the LVM and the encrypted partition. I already shrank one of the partitions in the LVM. How do I have to proceed to shrink the LVM and the encrypted partition?
[12:54] <Dijkstra> 10.10 Mastrubating Monkey?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> jamiewan:  err.. he left...
[12:55] <jamiewan> good
[12:55] <Guest29526> Monkeys use ubuntu ?
[12:55] <cybersplice> piquadrat-: I think you're better off installing Windows first and shrinking that.
[12:55] <Khalid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8036320 <= help!
[12:55] <piquadrat-> cyberslice: if possible, I'd like to avoid reinstalling ubuntu...
[12:56] <jussi01> jamiewan: keep it family friendly please
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> piquadrat-: i suggest you redo it, install windows but leave unpartitioned space rather than using the whole disk, you can then install ubuntu to the spare space and the dual boot will be managed for you
[12:56] <cybersplice> Khalid: Why not try the 9.10 beta?
[12:56] <cybersplice> piquadrat-: I've never tried resizing an encrypted LVM, but i don't fancy your chances.
[12:56] <jamiewan> jussi01: should of been jocks but hey, we all know it aye
[12:57] <Khalid> cybersplice, I can't just download a new CD each week, my connection sucks!
[12:57] <jussi01> jamiewan: just keep it family friendly and ontopic :)
[12:57] <cybersplice> Khalid: I understand, but if the hardware support in the current Kernel doesn't support hte hardware, it's either that or manually locating a kernel module.
[12:58] <cybersplice> You could possibly have upgraded in place if your nic worked!
[12:58]  * cybersplice is clearly not helpful!
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> Khalid: i think you can use ndiswrapper for it, try the windows driver
[12:59] <aden_> oi
[12:59] <Khalid> cybersplice, lol, if 9.10 beta worked ok, I will be able to upgrade for sure
[12:59] <cybersplice> Good idea.
[12:59] <aden_> oi my name is aden
[12:59] <Khalid> ActionParsnip1, ndiswrapper for the wireless adapter or the ethernet one?
[12:59] <cybersplice> Khalid: ActionParsnip1 is right. Try ndiswrapper.
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> Khalid: whichever, both if you like
[13:00] <mysql> what are typical user roles that might use the mysql-server software?
[13:00] <aden_> please
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> mysql: users that need database functionality...
[13:00] <ghatak> Can ubuntu be installed from USB on a mackbook pro ?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> ghatak: sure
[13:00] <aden_> sori not
[13:00] <mysql> hmm, suck as? new to mysql
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> mysql: if it needs a database, sql is an option
[13:01] <ghatak> ActionParsnip1: but how do I select USB as boot device at startup ?
[13:01] <cybersplice> ghatak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootCamp
[13:01] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip1, (or someone) i have a script i'm trying to run in xchat (on ubuntu 9.04) i'm getting errors, and not sure what's wrong. http://paste.ubuntu.com/283781/
[13:01] <aden_> wat and is msn
[13:01] <Khalid> ActionParsnip1, no need to use ndiswrapper for the wireless, I can compile its kernel module but I neet the build-essentials package first, some users tried with ndiswrapper for the ethernet, and it didn't work
[13:01] <Khalid> need***
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> aden_: msn is the microsoft network
[13:01] <ismail> hi
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> Khalid: fine, then use it for the wired connection
[13:02] <Boohbah> mysql: lots of web applications. e.g. your wordpress blogger needs to upload new content, it goes in the mysql db
[13:02] <Khalid> ActionParsnip1, it won't work
[13:02] <ghatak> cybersplice: I don't want to leave any MacOS on my macbook, wan to use entire HD for Ubuntu
[13:02] <cybersplice> ghatak: I'm pretty sure you can't do that.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> Khalid: you dont know for sure util you try, shooting down a solution without trying it is silly
[13:02] <Boohbah> mysql: what are you using mysql for?
[13:02] <ghatak> cybersplice: I did it last night on my Macbook, just having issues on macbook pro
[13:02] <mysql> ActionParsnip1: Any other good reason?
[13:02] <jrib> ghatak: you can do that, but you might want to keep a small os x install around for firmware updates
[13:02] <jamiewan> jussi01: ive been more family friendly than him not swearing and stuff also didnt realise you were channel moderator plus just defending Linux
[13:03] <mysql> Boohbah: don't no really, just installed it to check it out
[13:03] <ghatak> jrib: don't care
[13:03] <Khalid> ActionParsnip1, I understand, but other users that have the same nic as mine tried and it didn't work with them
[13:03] <bima> hiii
[13:03] <ale_> ciao
[13:03] <ernie> hi
[13:03] <ghatak> jrib: can i boot from USB and install Ubuntu ? I know how to create bootable USB for ubuntu, just not sure how do I boot from it at startup
[13:03] <Boohbah> mysql: relational databases in general are good at storing data in a structured format and accessing it quickly from memory
[13:04] <jrib> ghatak: hmm, if you install refit I know you can
[13:04] <jdv> is it just me or is #ubuntu very quiet this last week?
[13:04] <cybersplice> That's my fault, i kill conversations.
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> jdv:  the calm befor the storm
[13:04] <mark_> jdv: everyone is busy playing with karmic
[13:04] <ghatak> jrib: so once ubuntu live boots, I can wipe off everything from disk including refit ?
[13:04] <cybersplice> mark_ Truth.
[13:05] <mysql> Boohbah: tnx, relation database the important thing with mysql-server?
[13:05] <jrib> ghatak: I've never done it, but yes I believe that will work
[13:05] <ghatak> jrib: alright will try that
[13:05] <jrib> ghatak: if things go sour, it would probably be a good idea to have a live cd anyway so I would just use that to install
[13:05] <StrangeCharm> is it possible to generate a randomish file of a given size?
[13:06] <jamiewan> is anyone running hdtv usb stick successfully in Jaunty?
[13:06] <jrib> StrangeCharm: use dd and /dev/urandom I guess ?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> Khalid: how loing ago did they try?
[13:07] <jrib> ghatak: google says you don't need refit, just hording down "option" is enough
[13:07] <jrib> holding*
[13:08] <Khalid> ActionParsnip1, not sure really
[13:08] <ghatak> jrib: alright, i was going to try that anyway first :)
[13:08] <Khalid> I am suspecting there is a bug in its driver or something
[13:09] <Ido_> Hey guys, umm, I can't find the Terminal, neither in Accessories, or in Application Finder. Help please...
[13:09] <Ido_> Talking about Xubuntu
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Ido_:  try alt-f2 and type 'xfterm'
[13:09] <koppe> Partitioned my HDD in boot=256M, /=1G, usr=15G, var=5G, opt=5G, home=50G... Installer complained / too small... Docs recomends / >4G, but is it safe to ignore with my partitioning?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> Khalid: im sure there will have been newer ndiswrappers since
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> Khalid: and newer windows drivers to try
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Ido_:  it may be called somthing else.. i rarely use xfce.
[13:10] <pierre__> salut à tous comment avoir les codecs sousubuntu 8
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> koppe: the other folders will make up the / partition due to mouts so should be fine
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> koppe: why have you split it up?
[13:11] <Khalid> ActionParsnip1, okay will try with ndiswrapper
[13:11] <bazhang> ubuntu-restricted-extras pierre__ , also medibuntu.org ; french support in #ubuntu-fr
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> Khalid: its free to try
[13:11] <jamiewan> !usb hdtv
[13:11] <Ido_> Alright, thanks, Alt-f2 worked opening the "Run..." or however it's called. I have to use the Xfce cause the comp i'm using is quite a garbage
[13:11] <koppe> ActionParsnip1: Call me old-fasioned... and I'd like to set as much as possible to RO.
[13:11] <jamiewan> !hd tuner
[13:12] <bazhang> jamiewan, please /msg ubottu
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> Ido_: some just like it. I use lxde on most of my systems due to lightness but they can run full ompiz + kde
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> koppe: no bad thing :)
[13:12] <koppe> ActionParsnip1: I thought it ought to be OK when my other partions were som large... I may even try a /=512M (less space to corrupt)...
[13:12] <chu_> GARGH
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> koppe: trial and error, see what you can get away with
[13:14] <koppe> ActionParsnip1: I just got worried when the installer started 2nd-guessing me...  Thanks.
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> koppe: its assuming you are a new linux user so will only check /, it doesnt think that you are mounting stuff so complains
[13:15] <GNUtoo___> hi, I had the logoff window telling me someone was logged but I had no root window open nor ssh sessions...was there an intruder into the computer?
[13:15] <karex> HI ALL, is there an application like NI Multisim?
[13:16] <jrib> GNUtoo___: check with the 'w' command
[13:16] <JoshuaL> GNUtoo___, iirc it also happens when running a program with sudo, not sure though
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> GNUtoo___:  or you got a login going on the console you frogot about
[13:16] <AnirbanHazra> are the us repositiries of Ubuntu down ?? They are not opening ?
[13:17] <GNUtoo___> there was only the radio open
[13:17] <GNUtoo___> or maybe firefox too
[13:17] <koppe> ActionParsnip1: I see... I'm not exactly new, installed Slack (using 20 floppies over a week) on an old 486, back when KDE was brand new.
[13:17] <ActionParsnip1> koppe: then you'll find ubuntu a breeze
[13:17] <GNUtoo___> jrib: ok the computer is off now...Ill check con netstat antp but how to show reverse connections?
[13:18] <GNUtoo___> s/con/with/
[13:18] <koppe> ActionParsnip1: Must admit I no longer seem to be able to build my own kernel :-((   Hence, switching from Gentoo to Unbuntu (for now)
[13:18] <jrib> GNUtoo___: don't know, 'w' should show you what gdm was talking about
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> koppe: the default one is ok, not great but it does its job
[13:18] <GNUtoo___> jrib: ok I did a top but not a w...I should have thought of w
[13:20] <seppi> Hey, I'm trying to download the new 2.6.28-15 generic (23mb) via the Update Manager, but its super slow. First time this has happend. Something up with the servers?
[13:20] <mechdave> seppi, it is slow here too
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> seppi:  beta was released today.. servers are slow
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> seppi: beta was out yesterday, servers are busy
[13:20] <jamiewan> seppi: yep here also
[13:20] <seppi> ah, ok
[13:20] <bazhang> seppi, could be an issue with karmic beta
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> it is today allready? :)
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis: snips
[13:20] <seppi> then I will download it tommorow
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis: its always today ;)
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> but when was it yesterday?
[13:21] <YO_MISMO> hola... buenas tardes o dias
[13:21] <Pici> !es | YO_MISMO
[13:21] <YO_MISMO> alguien sabe por aki los parametros para configurar el irchispano¿
[13:21] <Pici> YO_MISMO: /join #ubuntu-es
[13:21] <micah> hello everyone
[13:22] <micah> is anyone else besides me having trouble updating
[13:22] <seppi> yup
[13:22] <seppi> slow servers. KK beta has been released I understand
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> micah: servers are busy as everyon pulls down the beta
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> micah: use the torrent, much faster
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> micah: for updates you will have to sit and wait.
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> i get the idea this 'are the servers slow' will be todays top FAQ.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> !slow
[13:23] <micah> im updating through the manager how am i going to torrent that?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> that'll do
[13:24] <seppi> " be patient with APT updates."
[13:24] <cybersplice> Dr_Willis: Truth.
[13:24] <seppi> Thanks
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> micah: I think there is a method but i dont know it, apt-torrent maybe
[13:24] <mechdave> micah, best wait to do your updates in a few days
[13:24] <shane2peru> gotta love the bot!
[13:24] <sahil> hey...my music is running but i can't find it anywhere on my desktop.How can i stop it.??
[13:24] <sipior> Dr_Willis: if anyone asks that, tell them it's all a problem of increased solar activity.
[13:24] <cybersplice> sahil: Reboot!
[13:24] <sahil> any other option??
[13:24] <shane2peru> micah: you could get the alt-cd and download it and run the update, and update off the cd
[13:25] <bazhang> sahil, what musicplayer
[13:25] <cybersplice> sahil: Restart X with ctrl alt backspace, unless you want to look through your processes list.
[13:25] <sahil> atunes
[13:25] <bazhang> sahil, could be it did not minimize to tray
[13:25] <cybersplice> sahil: killall atunes
[13:25] <sahil> i tried ps -A....and type kill 7318. but it say no such process.
[13:25] <micah> well it updated fine till it got to the OO.org files they are the only ones that failed
[13:25] <sahil> lemme try this
[13:25] <bazhang> !dontzap | cybersplice
[13:26] <jmorrison> hi - is there a switch to run apt-get update without the update manager gui starting?, i want to do it fro the console
[13:26] <sahil> cybersplice: not working
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> jmorrison: apt-get is a terminal app
[13:26] <trece8> jmorrison, sudo apt-get update ?
[13:26] <trece8> from the console?
[13:26] <mechdave> jmorrison, yes, just run sudo apt-get update from the console
[13:27] <spreadthelove> are the repos broken?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> jmorrison: if you run it from the terminal, it will run there
[13:27] <GNUtoo___> mmm how does the logoff check that there is no logged users
[13:27] <Laurenceb> hi
[13:27] <bazhang> jmorrison, you mean once you do the apt-get update, the update-manager starts running?
[13:27] <spreadthelove> i just reinstalled jaunty and its got a slow as heck download speed
[13:27] <sipior> spreadthelove: problem with increased solar activity. should return to normal soon.
[13:27] <spreadthelove> but only from the repos
[13:27] <jmorrison> bazhang: yes!
[13:27] <spreadthelove> srsly?
[13:27] <trece8> sipior, seriously?
[13:27] <bazhang> sipior, cmon
[13:27] <sipior> trece8: no.
[13:28] <bazhang> spreadthelove, slow because of karmic beta
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> solar spots are at a new low.. :)
[13:28] <Laurenceb> how do I setup a new mail account in evolution?
[13:28] <spreadthelove> ahh
[13:28] <trece8> then you're not helping. (Anyway, good joke ;) )
[13:28] <sahil> not working.....hw  cn i kill a process which i can't see on my desktop???
[13:28] <bazhang> jmorrison, just do apt-get upgrade from terminal as well
[13:28] <trece8> spreadthelove, are you using Wi-Fi?
[13:28] <spreadthelove> no im hard wired right now
[13:28] <batrick> Are the package servers really laggy for anyone else? I'm getting 2 KB/s throughput.
[13:28] <batrick> s/laggy/overloaded
[13:28] <jamiewan> sahil: reboot
[13:28] <sahil> atunes is that application name. I tried ; killall atunes...
[13:28] <cybersplice> sahil: restart alsa
[13:29] <spreadthelove> it said it cant even find them for me for most of them
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> Laurenceb: tools -> accounts   add it there
[13:29] <trece8> sahil, ps axu from the terminal, search the process and use "killall whatever"
[13:29] <sahil> no no .....i don't want to restart
[13:29] <cybersplice> sahil: Just restart ALSA. The sound system.
[13:29] <Rugart> Hello again
[13:29] <bazhang> sahil, did you try relaunching atunes
[13:29] <Rugart> i have a problem
[13:29] <sahil> yup
[13:29]  * Laurenceb sees no tools 
[13:29] <trece8> !ask | Rugart
[13:29] <jmorrison> bazhang: apt-get update just returns me to the prompt and the update manager starts - i used to get a list of  available updates before
[13:30] <Rugart> i want install ubuntu 8, i have xp 64 but i wanna change ok...
[13:30] <mechdave> sahil, have you tried to use killall with the sudo command? eg: sudo killall atunes
[13:30] <cybersplice> sahil: /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[13:30] <Laurenceb> ActionParsnip1: I dont have any tools
[13:30] <cybersplice> d'oh.
[13:30] <Rugart> the problem is that the raid made by intel matrix throught the bios, its not recognized by ubuntu when i try to install it
[13:30] <cybersplice> forgot sudo.
[13:30] <Rugart> why no?
[13:30] <sahil> mechdave: i am in root so i don't need to use sudo
[13:31] <Laurenceb> file, edit,view,folder,message,search,help
[13:31] <elad`> How do I change my display when I rotate my monitor 90 degrees?
[13:31] <bazhang> jmorrison, if it shows none, then none are to be had; consider that the servers are extremely hard hit at the moment as well, so may wish to hold off on the open office updates in the pipe
[13:31] <Rugart> it detects my 2 hd´s but not the raid made throught the bios
[13:31] <Laurenceb> no tools there
[13:31] <cybersplice> sahil:  Restart your soundsystem with /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[13:31] <sahil> cybersplice: not working. it sayno such fie or directory
[13:31] <cybersplice> uhh
[13:32] <cybersplice> sahil: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[13:32] <mechdave> cybersplice, sahil try /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[13:33] <cybersplice> mechdave: Thanks, mate. Already got there!
[13:33] <cybersplice> mechdave: He hasn't replied yet....
[13:33] <sahil> ccybersplice/mechdave; i tried restarting alsa, but sound jst stop for a moment and then again start playing.
[13:33] <jmorrison> bazhang: i'm aware of that, but thats not my problem. when there are updates it automatically starts update manager - this i dont want
[13:33] <Rugart> hello?
[13:33] <cybersplice> can you pastebin your processes list?
[13:33] <cybersplice> sahil
[13:33] <sahil> k
[13:33] <bazhang> jmorrison, let me check the preferences for update-manager
[13:34] <mechdave> cybersplice, sahil this is an interesting one  :)
[13:34] <cybersplice> mechdave: Yes.
[13:34] <Rugart> When i try to install ubuntu, the problem is that the raid made by intel matrix throught the bios, its not recognized. Thats normal? What should i do?
[13:34] <temporarytao> hi, i just upgraded to karmic and, at boot there's a message saying unknown filesystem xfs
[13:34] <temporarytao> why is that?
[13:34] <cybersplice> temporarytao: Were you using XFS for your / partition?
[13:34] <iceroot> temporarytao: #ubuntu+1
[13:35] <Gnea> temporarytao: probably nothing, but #ubuntu+1 can help you
[13:35] <temporarytao> the / partition is using ext4
[13:35] <temporarytao> but the home partition is xfs
[13:35] <temporarytao> Gnea, k i'll try there
[13:35] <sahil> cybersplice/mechdave: http://pastebin.com/m7bd07110
[13:35] <Gnea> temporarytao: after oct 31, we can help you with karmic here
[13:35] <bazhang> jmorrison, under settings try disable/uncheck automatic update
[13:36] <mechdave> sahil, why is dd running?
[13:36] <temporarytao> Gnea, hehe, sorry about that. bit of a noob
[13:36] <sahil> dd?
[13:36] <cybersplice> and rarcrack :P
[13:36] <trece8> what do I need to do to a pendrive to get it to boot as a live CD (from getting the .iso to actually starting the system from there) ?
[13:36] <mechdave> sahil line 64
[13:37] <cybersplice> and ssh agent
[13:37] <cybersplice> ruh roh
[13:37] <mechdave> sahil, cybersplice is this machine exposed to the internet directly?
[13:37] <bazhang> trece8, using unetbootin?
[13:37] <Drainman> anyone knows why i cant access my new nikon d300s on 9.03
[13:37] <jmorrison> bazhang: will check those again, its not a major problem except when updating a remote machine i would need to forward the display, if you see what i mean
[13:37] <Boohbah> !liveusb | trece8
[13:37] <paseante> is there a limit in the use of 50% of the swap file in ubuntu?
[13:38] <Boohbah> trece8: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[13:38] <sahil> cybersplice: i kill dd but no effect
[13:38] <jrib> paseante: no
[13:38] <trece8> thanks Boohbah
[13:38] <sahil> machdev/cybersplicce; i am using rarcrack, that's why it's running.
[13:38] <paseante> jrib: how are you so sure?
[13:38] <sahil> mechdev: what next??
[13:38] <cybersplice> sahil: mechdave: That's probably a good reason for that.
[13:38] <jrib> paseante: because I've had mine fill up
[13:38] <Boohbah> trece8: sorry that link is for a read/write filesystem, maybe overkill for your needs. you may simply use unetbootin as bazhang says or usb-image-creator
[13:38] <Drainman> its showing up as standard usb ptp class camera
[13:39] <paseante> jrib: :) ok thanks
[13:39] <cybersplice> sahil: killall pulseaudio
[13:39] <Drainman> and then it says error connecting
[13:39] <sahil> k
[13:39] <bazhang> Boohbah, had better luck with unetbootin :)
[13:39] <jrib> paseante: some memory leak in nvidia driver I guess...
[13:39] <fakhri> hy
[13:39] <Drainman> i have a laptop with a much older ubuntu where i can use the camera
[13:39] <trece8> no problem, i'll try both things
[13:39] <Boohbah> bazhang: i had no luck with anything last time i tried, but that was a karmic alpha image and i finally gave up and dist-upgraded from jaunty :)
[13:39] <bazhang> trece8, for jaunty its in the repos (unetbootin)
[13:40] <trece8> bazhang, already downloading, thanks
[13:40] <paseante> jrib: in my case rarely used apps seem not to be swapped out
[13:40] <trece8> another question: how is the easiest way to make your "own" distribution? What app to use?
[13:40] <paseante> jrib: which renders the system unusably slow
[13:40] <mechdave> sahil, you have 2 instances of rarcrack, is that meant to be?
[13:40] <bazhang> uck trece8
[13:40] <bazhang> !remaster | trece8
[13:40] <jrib> paseante: you could mess with swappiness and see if that helps
[13:41] <trece8> thanks bazhang ( I thought "uck" was an onomatopoeia! )
[13:41] <jmorrison> bazhang: no joy - if there was only an apt-get update --nox or such like
[13:41] <sahil> mechdev:cybersplice: my music has stopped probably  my playing list reached to its end.But now i can't lauch the atunes as it say " one instance is already running".
[13:41] <bazhang> ubuntu customization kit trece8 :)
[13:41] <jrib> paseante: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Performance%20tuning%20with%20%27%27swappiness%27%27
[13:41] <qnix> hi, is there a problem with us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[13:41] <cybersplice> sahil: If you killed pulseaudio, that's hwy it stopped
[13:41] <bazhang> qnix, yes karmic beta
[13:41] <paseante> jrib: yeah, that's what I was looking for :D
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> !slow | qnix
[13:42] <sahil> k
[13:42] <qnix> I see.
[13:42] <sahil> cybersplice: but atunes is still there . rt??
[13:42] <mechdave> cybersplice, sahil sounds like you have a ghost
[13:43] <JPSman> soooo I just got the update rolling here and its CRAWLING
[13:43] <sahil> mechdave: whart u mean by that??
[13:43] <JPSman> should I stop this and wait for a torrent or something?  is there any way to torrent these updates?
[13:43] <mechdave> sahil, a process that is there but not listed
[13:43] <cybersplice> mechdave: sahil: Yeah, ghost process.
[13:43] <JPSman> archine.ubuntu.com is being abused right now I can imagine
[13:43] <trece8> bazhang, there is an alternative to unetbootin, for putting there ANY CD image? ( like crunchbang or so)
[13:44] <cybersplice> mechdave: sahil: If you restart X it will go, but you lose your rarcrack sessions.
[13:44] <bazhang> JPSman, common complaint karmic beta
[13:44] <trece8> sorry, stupid question, nevermind
[13:44] <bazhang> trece8, should work with most linux iso's afaik
[13:44] <JPSman> bazhang - no complaint here, I mean I dont NEED this update...
[13:44] <JPSman> ill just stop it and wait for it later
[13:44] <sahil> ah.......i'll restart is later on then: cybersplice:mechdave
[13:44] <trece8> yes, yes, it surely does, I just didn't see the button, my bad
[13:44] <bazhang> JPSman, seems to be the open office one, so yeah :)
[13:45] <JPSman> one of them failed though, a linux-image2.6.28-15-generic   -  that sounds important.  I have never seen an update fail before
[13:46] <bazhang> JPSman, failed here too, tried later and it got done
[13:46] <jamiewan> JPSman: same here
[13:46] <JPSman> what is the linux-image2.6.28-15-generic  anyway?  is that a new kernel?  or a kernel update?
[13:46] <temporarytao> JPSman, was it "failed" or "held back"?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip1> JPSman: linux-image-xxx is a new kernel
[13:47] <JPSman> ah
[13:47] <JPSman> it just says failed.  its allll good, I probably won't be upgrading this time around
[13:48] <ActionParsnip1> JPSman: just hang a little then try again
[13:48] <[yzf600]> hey - anyone know how I can disable gnu screen from auto loading when I ssh into my box?
[13:48] <sahil> do anyone knkow how to kill ghost processes in ubuntu wihout killling other application ??????????
[13:49] <rexNebular> Are there any client that can ACTUALLY Transfer Files to Google Talk? I tried Empathy, Gajim, Pidgin, they all report "501: not implemented" error due to GTalk does use a new File Transfer protocol.
[13:49] <mechdave> sahil, first we need to find them
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> [yzf600]:  i recall ubuntu had tweaked screen and  in the screen 'menus' (on f9?) it had a option to disable that.. I think they juat alter/edit the .bashrc or some other .* file
[13:50]  * chu_ is about to begin the "comprehensive ndiswrapper troubleshooting guide" - wish me luck!
[13:50] <JPSman> oh yeah hey and BTW, do any of you guys happen to have any extra Google Wave invites lying around that I can have?  I'll be your best friend forever!!
[13:50] <bazhang> !ot
[13:51] <[yzf600]> Dr_Willis: I checked my .bashrc and the /etc/skel/.bashrc file and didn't find any reference to screen. I'll check out the f9 option
[13:51] <Leif__> I am running the 9.10 beta, and there seams to be no install button in the ubuntu software center, does anyone else notice this?
[13:51] <batrick> Is something wrong with security.ubuntu.com
[13:51] <Pici> Leif__ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[13:51] <Pici> !slow | batrick
[13:51] <Leif__> okay, thanks you.
[13:52] <NorwayGeek> Is archive.ubuntu.com down? Apitude wont download from there
[13:52] <mechdave> sahil, try ps -ef | grep atunes
[13:52] <batrick>  /sigh
[13:52] <rexNebular> lol
[13:52] <NorwayGeek> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[13:52] <NorwayGeek> 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.140)]
[13:52] <NorwayGeek> and now its just stuck there
[13:52] <rexNebular> !slow | NorwayGeek
[13:52] <bazhang> slow due to karmic beta NorwayGeek
[13:52] <NorwayGeek> ah ok
[13:52] <NorwayGeek> >_<
[13:53] <NorwayGeek> and i that needed to set up an ftp server
[13:54] <rexNebular> ubottu: help me with google talk client
[13:54] <[yzf600]> ubuntu needs something like torrent repository downloads
[13:55] <rexNebular> yzf600: that will increase risk imho
[13:55] <NorwayGeek> ah there we go.. downloaded
[13:56] <[yzf600]> rexNebular: you mean risk of getting trojan/bad packages?
[13:56] <cybersplice> apt-torrent exists
[13:56] <OerHeks> rexNebular: pidgin can talk with google talk, doesn't it ?
[13:56] <rexNebular> yzf600: nope. broken packages/dependencies/etc
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> rexNebular: pidgin can do that
[13:57] <rexNebular> OerHeks: pidgin can talk but can't send files
[13:57] <[yzf600]> OerHeks: yes - pidgin can talk google talk
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> rexNebular: use dpkg -i <deb file> then run: sudo apt-get -f install
[13:57] <plouffe> can't run more than one sound app. Have to kill pulseaudio to run totem after running flash movies. Why?
[13:58] <plouffe> latest Ubuntu, AMD64
[13:58] <rexNebular> ActionParsnip1: what's that forceful installation for?
[13:59] <chu_> Ok, so ndiswrapper never really installs my driver.
[13:59] <chu_> Interesting.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip1> rexNebular: its not forceful, its fix
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> rexNebular: the googletalk deb is now i /var/cache/apt/archives you can install its deps with -f install
[14:03] <rexNebular> ActionParsnip1: ok I understand now. thx
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> rexNebular: its the easy way to get deps
[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> rexNebular: provided they are on your listed repos
[14:07] <zeltak_> hi guys. anyone knows a simle way to clean the chat and get rid of the "has joined", "has quit" etc..?
[14:07] <multiverse> is us.archive.ubuntu.com under attack or something?  I am getting timeouts.
[14:07] <Gnea> zeltak_: maybe.
[14:07] <Drainman> zeltak_: in which program?
[14:07] <trece8> xchat
[14:07] <zeltak_> irssi?
[14:07] <Drainman> ignore is a good way in irssi
[14:07] <zeltak_> sorry about that
[14:08] <Gnea> zeltak_: btw, how did you get your irssi setup like that?
[14:08] <bazhang> multiverse, slow due to karmic beta
[14:08] <zeltak_> Gnea: setup like what?
[14:08] <trece8> How do I do the same as zeltak but in xchat?
[14:08] <Gnea> zeltak_: to have the people in the channel listed on the right, with all of your window tabs listed on the left
[14:08] <bazhang> trece8, right click channel or check in settings
[14:09] <abhilashm86> my sound is not working in ubuntu 9.04, even headphone not working, some distort sound is coming in speakers, how to correct this?
[14:09] <multiverse> bazhang: ah, it was released today?
[14:09] <trece8> bazhang, done that.... no clue
[14:09] <bazhang> !quietirssi
[14:09] <trece8> anyway, tried with unet booting, but "Boot failed"
[14:09] <zeltak_> ahhh you mean the screenshot :) i was using weechat :) instead of irssi
[14:09] <Gnea> ah ok
[14:10] <zeltak_> i love weechat but i wanna try irssi since im hearing great things about it
[14:10] <jdb> super, that ignore command :)
[14:10] <jdb> didnt know that
[14:10] <chu_> I think my kernel ruins my wireless card (doesn't appear to have mac80211 which is needed.
[14:10] <chu_> Anyway running 2.6.28-15 I think the latest available on jaunty
[14:10] <chu_> Anyone*
[14:11] <abhilashm86> any help??
[14:11] <Gnea> !sound | abhilashm86
[14:11] <abhilashm86> my sound is not working in ubuntu 9.04, even headphone not working, some distort sound is coming in speakers, how to correct this? before it was correct, from morning its happening this
[14:11] <bazhang> abhilashm86, what is sound set to? 100%?
[14:12] <abhilashm86> bazhang: yes 100% also it plays some distort........
[14:12] <deviskec> hey guys, any idea why ctrl+atl+f1-f6 dont open the text terminal anymore on my ubuntu ?
[14:12] <zeltak_> sweet thx bazhang , worked like a charm
[14:12] <bazhang> abhilashm86, try 80% or so
[14:12] <ChogyDan> deviskec: it does for me
[14:13] <deviskec> used to work for me too, dont know what went wrong :/
[14:13] <anirudhh> hello
[14:13] <bazhang> trece8, I had trouble with unetbootin a couple of times, just re-did it and it came out fine
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[14:13] <deviskec> Switch to the first text terminals. Under Linux you can have several (6 in standard setup)
[14:13] <deviskec> anyone knows where this setting is stored, maybe it got set to 0 ?
[14:14] <abhilashm86> bazhang: thanks, in PCM of sound, it was full low, saw now and all working.............
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> deviskec: i reduced mine to 2 for speed :)
[14:15] <deviskec> ActionParsnip1 where can i reduce them ? :)
[14:15] <anirudhh> i have problem with my graphics stuff any one here to help??
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> deviskec: http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2008/11/reduce-tty-remove-virtual-console.html
[14:16] <chris_> good morning.
[14:16] <rotem> hello
[14:17] <rotem> I have a problem with sound on ubuntu
[14:17] <Rashko> hi all
[14:17] <ActionParsnip1> !sound | rotem
[14:18] <Rashko> I need help please
[14:18] <Rashko> can any one help me please
[14:18] <zeltak_> bazhang: how to you ignore the "genii_ is now known as genii"?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | Rashko
[14:18] <bazhang> Rashko, need a question
[14:18] <Rashko> need to enable ubuntu 8.04 more than 4 serial port pci card
[14:18] <rotem> thanks
[14:19] <bazhang> zeltak_, not sure that can be ignored; dont use irssi so others may enlighten you
[14:19] <cybersplice> Rashko: That's an interesting request. You using it for modems, or something?
[14:19] <Rashko> yes
[14:19] <Rashko> I run lspci -v
[14:19] <cybersplice> What's the make and model of the card?
[14:20] <Rashko> lspci -v shows my pci card with 6 serial port bout only 4 are runing
[14:20] <deviskec> seems like they're configured
[14:20] <Pici> zeltak_: /help levels will show what levels you might put on your ingore statement for a given channe
[14:21] <Pici> zeltak_: Also, irssi's official help channel is #irssi on this network.
[14:22] <beejeebus> anyone else getting real slow connectivity to *.ubuntu.com apt repository?
[14:22] <Pici> !slow | beejeebus
[14:22] <trece8> everyone, beejeebus
[14:22] <bazhang> beejeebus, karmic beta
[14:22] <beejeebus> Pici: thanks
[14:22] <Rashko> when I run ls /dev/ttyS* shows only ttyS0-ttyS3
[14:23] <malimbar> wouldn't it be neat if the update manager used bittorrent at tiems like this?
[14:23]  * beejeebus waves cane at all those beta testers
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> malimbar:  theres  some torrent-thing that can do that.. but  i think its a bit of a work-in-progress
[14:24] <TheFunkbomb> Anyone else have a problem getting updates?
[14:24] <bazhang> yep
[14:24] <trece8> !slow | TheFunkbomb
[14:24] <malimbar> thanks Dr Willis, that's interesting
[14:24] <TheFunkbomb> ah
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> malimbar:  of course shareing/seeding old out of date updates.. :) is  not productive either.
[14:25] <TheFunkbomb> mama2lmama, don't spam me, punk
[14:25] <trece8> I still hope for webpages to become torrent-based :(
[14:25] <Madsy> trece8: That would suck.
[14:25] <JonathanD> trece8: theres something like that.
[14:25] <JonathanD> slashdot uses it.
[14:25] <GreyGhost> err.. spam from #ubuntu ..
[14:25] <Pici> GreyGhost: can you pm me it?
[14:25] <malimbar> lol, didn't think about that. of course getting the update torrent from the repository itself would fix that wouldn't it?
[14:26] <JonathanD> or did. I forget what it's called.
[14:26] <grouse> Hey guys, I noticed that the release schedule for Ubuntu 10.04 has been released. What happened to all the point releases between karmic and lucid, and how come they know the point release of 10.04 before karmic has bnee officially released?
[14:26] <TheFunkbomb> mama2lmama is a spammer
[14:26] <brianV> hi all. aptitude can't connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.46). Is it possible to force it to use another mirror?
[14:26] <Madsy> trece8: The bittorrent protocol kind of evolves around availability. Without any dedicated server data will simply vanish if it loses popularity.
[14:26] <GreyGhost> yeah pls kick the idiot ..
[14:26] <trece8> brianV, use torrents
[14:26] <brianV> trece8: to download and install empathy? :p
[14:27] <brianV> trece8: I am not grabbing an iso
[14:27] <Pici> grouse: The version numbers for Ubuntu releases are the year and month of release. i.e. 2010 April is 10.04
[14:27] <trece8> well, that's all the little I know
[14:27] <grouse> ah, I thought they were build numbers. Thanks
[14:28] <rightsprocket> Hello everyone.
[14:28] <chu_> hey again all, still no fix.
[14:28] <bazhang> chu_, for what
[14:28] <maw> how do I disable vesa for PXElinux?
[14:28] <matrix_> hey guys how do i kill firefox is it firefox p9 kille firefox
[14:28] <bazhang> maw, pxelinux? is that a distro?
[14:28] <mark1> My Synaptics Package Manager will not download any packages???  what is wrong?
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> !slow | mark1
[14:28] <genii> bazhang: It's netboot kernel
[14:28] <popa> helouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[14:29] <maw> bazhang: ubuntu PXE install
[14:29] <genii> maw: Use some preseed values specifying the driver to use
[14:29] <rightsprocket> Is anyone here versed in using Ubuntu as a web server and memory usage?
[14:29] <rightsprocket> Or should I just throw it out there?
[14:30] <cryptovenom> is the ubuntu repositories down?
[14:30] <mark1> I get this error when attempting to download packages in the package manager     W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/cairo-dock/cairo-dock-data_1.6.3.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb     WHAT IS THE DEAL?
[14:30] <bazhang> cryptovenom, no just slow; karmic beta
[14:30] <erUSUL> !ask | rightsprocket
[14:30] <bazhang> mark1, see message above
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> mark1:  they are timing out.. servers are VERY slow today
[14:30] <stefg> !slow
[14:30] <chu_> bazhang, classic wireless problem...
[14:30] <rightsprocket> erUSUL thanks.
[14:31] <mark1> thanks
[14:31] <cryptovenom> ok thnaks
[14:31] <bazhang> chu_, which chipset
[14:31] <cryptovenom> thanks
[14:31] <mazfer> anyone running ubuntu 9.04 with an ATI graphics card?
[14:31] <stefg> !anyone
[14:31] <thiebaude> !details
[14:32] <bazhang> mazfer, which card and what version of ubuntu
[14:32] <rightsprocket> After about a week my web server keeps getting down to about 60 megs of free ram.  The server has 4gb of ram and has almost a 0 load average.  I am using 8.10 and Apache2 / PHP / MySQL X-Cache.  I know Ubuntu / Linux does use ram for cache to keep from swapping but is this normal?
[14:32] <mazfer> ATI mobility radeon HD 3650 and Ubuntu 9.04
[14:32] <bazhang> mazfer, is there something in hardware drivers for that?
[14:33] <thiebaude> rightsprocket, are you able to check whats using the ram?
[14:33] <mazfer> the proprietary drivers.. but i was wondering if you get the ATI catalyst control center 9.9 when you activate the proprietary drivers
[14:33] <rightsprocket> thiebaude I am running top and free and ps but nothing seems to add up to the amount being used.
[14:34] <erUSUL> rightsprocket: yes is normal. check with free what is the porcentage of cache
[14:35] <mark1> how do i install a package manually?  i am noob.  i download cairo-dock-2.0.8.2.tar.bz2 and the plugins.   how do i install it?
[14:35] <thiebaude> erUSUL, am i correct that the cache is not used?
[14:35] <erUSUL> mark1: if you are new just use the prepackged versions aviable via Aplications>Add/Remove
[14:35] <trece8> hey, can anybody ban/kick mama2lmama?
[14:35] <trece8> spamming
[14:35] <Pici> trece8: Can you pm me with what message you got from them?
[14:36] <bazhang> mark1, best to stick to repos, that is in the repos btw
[14:36] <AstroEl> :o
[14:36] <rightsprocket> erUSUL  I am getting into the server now.  But should it use up the ram with cache up to 60 megs free?
[14:36] <chu_> atheros ar928x pci-e ... I have been through a lot, and basically nailed to down that my kernel is missing mac80211
[14:36] <chu_> Or I just cannot find it.
[14:37] <erUSUL> rightsprocket: yes is the normal thing afaics. You can tweak this behavior via the /proc/sys/vm/ tunables
[14:37] <mark1> thanks..  but how do i install it manually?  i extracted it to a folder...  i am unsure if i have the right file, also.. http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724  Which do i need for Ubuntu 9.04??
[14:37] <rightsprocket> erUSUL Is there a time then when is should get worried? Like if the system starts to use swap?
[14:37] <erUSUL> !compile | mark1 if you insist...
[14:37] <thiebaude> !swap
[14:37] <rightsprocket> erUSUL Right now my swap is at 0.
[14:38] <rightsprocket> thiebaude Thanks!
[14:38] <thiebaude> rightsprocket, np
[14:38] <malimbar> is there any advantage to having a swap partition rather than a swapfile?
[14:38] <erUSUL> rightsprocket: yes; if you suffer a (swap storm) or the OOM killer is invoked then maybe you have to find out if one of your processes is leaking memory
[14:38] <rightsprocket> erUSUL Thanks!
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> malimbar:  many live cd will see/use a sawp partition if it exists. :) is one reason
[14:39] <tomoyuki28jp`> How can I access apache on Ubuntu from windows XP on virtaulbox? (win is a guest OS)
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> tomoyuki28jp`:  if the vbox is set up right. its would be the same as if the 2 machines are on the same lan.. you could use http://ip.of.other.box
[14:40] <erUSUL> malimbar: suspend to disk is more reliable (iirc) if done to a swap parition vs a swapfile (i do not even know for sure if you can s2disk with a swap file)
[14:40] <tomoyuki28jp`> Dr_Willis: uhm, localhost or 127.0.0.1 doesn't work.
[14:40] <temporarytao> hey, who's mama2lmama?
[14:40] <stefg> tomoyuki28jp`: make sure that you have set up bridged networking for the guest
[14:40] <erUSUL> temporarytao: a troll
[14:40] <temporarytao> he's/she's marketing discounted debian/ubuntu support
[14:40] <chu_> Ahahaha! I found a max80211 directory
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> tomoyuki28jp`:  thats because localhost is 127.0.0.1 and that is the 'same' machine.
[14:40] <Boohbah> temporarytao: /whois mama2lmama
[14:40] <Pici> temporarytao: Can you pm me the message you got?
[14:41] <tomoyuki28jp`> stefg: I will, thanks!
[14:41] <Pici> temporarytao: Or throw it on a pastebin?
[14:41] <OerHeks> chu_: nice
[14:41] <temporarytao> Pici, sorry but i closed the window already
[14:41] <temporarytao> i guess nigerian scammers are linux users too, eh? :)
[14:41] <tomoyuki28jp`> Dr_Willis: So what host name or IP should I use instead?
[14:41] <Boohbah> Pici: is marketing against the channel guidelines?
[14:41] <thiebaude> !spam
[14:42] <Boohbah> Pici: i couldn't find it listed explicitly in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines perhaps that document needs to be updated
[14:42] <Pici> Boohbah: Spamming our users is.
[14:42] <stefg> Boohbah: this is not ebay :-)
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> tomoyuki28jp`:  the network ip of the box. not localhost.     try ifconfig command and look at the ip#'s
[14:42] <Laurenceb> mama can piss off
[14:42] <stefg> !language
[14:43] <fakhri> hey
[14:43] <Boohbah> Pici: stefg: i know and i agree it shouldn't be allowed. but it should be explicitly listed in the policy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:43] <thiebaude> !offtopic | Boohbah
[14:43] <rexNebular> Spam message contains "<mama2lmama> Ladies and Gentleman of #ubuntu: I'm mama2lmama, We are offering large discounts in Official Ubuntu and Debian Support, ..... enjoy, or /join #freenode and ask for dropping #supremos markett..."
[14:43] <cannonball> Does everybody just ignore that spam message?  Or should that nick get booted?
[14:43] <xopen> how to check my system info and hardware?
[14:43] <westmi> spam
[14:44] <tomoyuki28jp`> Dr_Willis: uhm? Ubuntu is the host OS and win is a guest. Maybe you misunderstand my question?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> xopen: lspci
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> xopen: depends what you wanna know
[14:44] <chu_> Does anyone know how to change the path ndiswrapper expects the driver to be placed?
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> tomoyuki28jp`:  you dont understand how virtualbox works..  the os inside virtualbox has a virtualnetwork card and its own ip.
[14:44] <flashingpumpkin_> hey - short question if others here experience the same: when i plug in / plug out / turn on / off a secondary monitor on my laptop, all of ubuntu just freezes. only thing out is a hard reboot
[14:44] <xopen> ActionParsnip, thanks, i wish to know how many processors i have
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> tomoyuki28jp`:  your host machine also has  an ip. and it can even have a private ip  on the same private lan as the virtualbox machines.
[14:44] <Pici> Boohbah: I'll confer with the other ops about it.
[14:45] <xopen> ActionParsnip, the ram etc and linux OS
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> xopen: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> tomoyuki28jp`:  the 2 can 'network' together as if they were 2 physical machines on the same lan. You can als install the virtualbox guest addations and access a special 'virtualbox shared directory'
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> xopen: free -m
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> xopen: lsb_release -a; uname -a
[14:45] <tomoyuki28jp`> Dr_Willis: Oh, I see. thanks for the info. I see wmaster0 in the output of ifconfig.  Is that the one?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> xopen: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor   the number of cores = the highest number
[14:46] <stefg> tomoyuki28jp`: Given that you use bridged networking the host and the guest behave like two machines in the same LAN. if they are configured to use the same subnet you should be able to reach either machine by IP, even if have no nameserver or entries in the hosts file
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> tomoyuki28jp`:  you may want to check the  virtualbox docs at the vbox homepage.. it has a very well done manual.
[14:46] <smaug9> if I've installed the alpha of 9.10, do I just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to get to the beta?
[14:46] <Pici> smaug9 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | smaug9
[14:46] <erUSUL> smaug9: yes; but further questions in #ubuntu+1
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> tomoyuki28jp`:  it can be set up different ways. I set mine up where the vbox machine has an ip on my 'real' lan' so other machines can access it as if it was a real machine.
[14:46] <tomoyuki28jp`> stefg: Dr_Willis: thanks!!
[14:46] <smaug9> thanks
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> xopen: i think there is a system info program but ive not used it
[14:48] <xopen> ActionParsnip, Oh, thanks for the info. Is there any command shows all the details? etc how many ram, processor, grapic hard.
[14:48] <mazfer> btw, is there a command in terminal to get the version of your graphic card drivers?
[14:48] <erUSUL> !info sysinfo | xopen
[14:49] <erUSUL> xopen:  « sudo lshw | less »
[14:49] <mitrion> hello
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> xopen: i only know thse commands, if you look i the system menu you may find an app
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: is there some X based app to show it in a pretty window?
[14:50] <flog> Hi, I've just installed ubuntu server 9.04. When installing I did not have the networkcable plugged in so i skipped the network setup. Now when I run ifconfig I just find the "lo" interface and not the realtech-card that I've got on the machine.
[14:50] <flog> How do I set this up?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> flog: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[14:51] <xopen> ActionParsnip, its a server. I dun have interface for that.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> flog: you can now add: auto eth0
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> flog: on the next line add:   iface inet eth0 dhcp
[14:51] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: sysinfo
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> flog: press ctrl +x, press y, then press enter
[14:51] <flog> Sorry didn't mension that. Allready did that part.
[14:52] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: 15:48 < erUSUL> !info sysinfo | xopen
[14:52] <Boohbah> xopen: no, but you may achieve that with a series of commands. 'cat /proc/cpuinfo; free -m; grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> xopen: then you will need those commands
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> flog: then run: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> flog: your device should now start hunting for dhcp
[14:53] <kek> I'm having trouble with vsftpd. I want to permit FTP access but not SSH. If I set the user's login shell to /usr/sbin/nologin to prevent shell access, it can't use FTP either. Ideas?
[14:53] <flog> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[14:53] <Boohbah> kek: /bin/false
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> kek: you can set it to /bin/false
[14:54] <wademurray> Is us.archive.ubuntu.com slow or is it just me?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> kek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FtpServer
[14:54] <flog> The documentation should mension that need to restart the networking service.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> !slow | wademurray
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> flog: its a wiki, add it
[14:54] <wademurray> ActionParsnip: thanks
[14:54] <Boohbah> kek: echo /bin/false >> /etc/shells
[14:54] <kek> thanks Boohbah and ActionParsnip
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> flog: after any network change (like any config change at all) you must restart the service to rer-read the new settings
[14:54] <xopen> Boohbah, ActionParsnip thanks! Got it
[14:54] <esters> Hi, I'm trying to get wireless working on Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Li2727, so far without success ( lspci,iwlist,ifconfig,iwconfig output -> http://pastebin.ca/1589499 )
[14:55] <kek> yeah, the problem was that the chosen shell wasn't in /etc/shells
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> flog: thatwhy when you edit xorg.conf you restart the x server
[14:55] <esters> running Ubuntu 9.10 Beta
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> !9.10 | esters
[14:55] <bazhang> esters, #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:55] <esters> bazhang: thanks
[14:55] <chu_> I don't know guys.
[14:56] <flog> ActionParsnip: long time since I ran linux.
[14:56] <xopen> is there any websites that has details how to install apache, php, etc etc on server?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> flog: no worries, you now have learned a little more :) every day is a school day
[14:56] <chu_> Every article I have read has been saying something different.
[14:56] <chu_> So tedious.
[14:56] <flog> ActionParsnip: yepp :)
[14:56] <Boohbah> xopen: yes, i will find a good howto for you
[14:56] <bazhang> chu_, which chipset
[14:56] <chu_> atheros ar928x pci-e ...
[14:57] <Boohbah> xopen: http://articles.slicehost.com/2008/4/29/ubuntu-hardy-apache-virtual-hosts-1
[14:57] <bazhang> chu_, no need for ndis with that
[14:57] <Boohbah> xopen: http://articles.slicehost.com/ubuntu-hardy
[14:57] <Keiya> ActionParsnip: WHAT!? Damn, there goes my plan of not drinking on school nights! :P
[14:57] <ChogyDan> chu_: have you tried backports module?
[14:57] <chu_> probably...
[14:58] <ChogyDan> chu_: linux-backports-modules-jaunty-generic?  you have that installed?
[14:58] <bazhang> atheros is quite well supported at this point chu_
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Keiya: haha you should have some school nights out, they kick ass
[14:59] <xopen> Boohbah, wow!! this is really good!! Love you!! xoxo
[14:59] <chu_> ChogyDan, yeah.
[14:59] <uble> pke indonesia ngpa!!!!!!!
[15:00] <bazhang> !id | uble
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Keiya: no stupid 15 year olds trying to get served and making the place look untidy
[15:01] <Boohbah> xopen: welcome :)
[15:02] <Keiya> ActionParsnip: Well, I'm only 18 myself. :P
[15:02] <uble> chu_chu?????
[15:02] <cesco> COME FUNZIONA STA ROBA? :o)
[15:02] <LjL> !it | cesco
[15:03] <trece8> Do the amd64 isos work for intel64 CPUs?
[15:03] <esters> trece8: yes
[15:03] <bazhang> uble, /join #ubuntu-id
[15:03] <trece8> thanks esters
[15:03] <cesco> ..ops scusate .. sorry
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Keiya: 29 here
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Keiya: still act 18 though :D
[15:05] <spitzi1> Hi. I've installed a new HD in my PC, to which I'd like to clone my existing partitions. The BIOS shows the new HD, but CloneZilla doesn't seem to be aware of its existance. How can I check if Ubuntu sees it ?
[15:05] <Zzeiss> What's the command to search the apt database for "foo"?
[15:06] <Pici> Zzeiss: apt-cache search foo   or apt-cache search --names-only foo
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Zzeiss: apt-cache search foo
[15:06] <Zzeiss> Thanks, Pici!
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Zzeiss: or if you are searching your installed apps: dpkg -l |  grep foo
[15:07] <spitzi1> Has my message reached the channel ? I don't know if nickserv allows me.
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> spitzi1:  we see you
[15:07] <spitzi1> Oh, ok
[15:08] <SnakDoc> anyone else having trouble sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[15:08] <duffydack> spitzi1,  might need to initialise the drive...been a long time since I had anything "new"
[15:08] <cybersplice> !slow snakdoc
[15:08] <spitzi1> duffydack - you mean format it ?
[15:08] <cybersplice> !slow |SnakDoc
[15:09] <duffydack> spitzi1, well you dont have to format.. just make a partition table at least
[15:09] <SnakDoc> i not getting iso was getting update but thanks anyway was the us.archive server having trouble
[15:09] <stefg> spitzi1: it should be mentioned in dmesg ... dmesg | grep sd
[15:09] <cybersplice> no
[15:09] <cybersplice> its slow
[15:09] <cybersplice> due to karmic
[15:09] <duffydack> spitzi1, if its new then maybe a full format would be good, just to check its integrity of nothing rlse.
[15:09] <SnakDoc> ok that works thanks for info
[15:10] <cybersplice> np :)
[15:10] <eaglestar2> hi i have 64 bit authentication on my wireless router and now for some reason ubuntu can not connect to the internet even though windows xp can fine what could be the problem?
[15:10] <SnakDoc> isn't final release soon for karmic
[15:10] <DJones> SnakDoc: 29th October
[15:10] <bazhang> SnakDoc, #ubuntu+1 for karmic discussion please
[15:10] <spitzi1> duffydack - is there some GUI way for me to see that the HD is recognized and create a partition table in it ?
[15:11] <stefg> !wifi | eaglestar
[15:11] <duffydack> spitzi1, gparted
[15:11] <cybersplice> spitzi1: Partition Editor in "administration"
[15:11] <eaglestar> should i be using 64 or 128 encryption?
[15:12] <alabd> Good day every one ,what should be set here ?http://img2.tinypic.info/files/is8zibyhvs9d3sxywhsj.png what is it ?
[15:12] <cybersplice> eaglestar: You should be using WPA where possible, or 128 bit wep where not.
[15:12] <sidh> greetings gentlemen
[15:12] <pyro2927> hey, I'm running ubuntu 9.10 and I updated transmission to 1.75 and after that my web interface doesn't work
[15:12] <bazhang> pyro2927, #ubuntu+1 for that
[15:13] <spitzi1> cybersplice - don't have partition editor, will install gparted
[15:13] <xopen> hi guys, i wish to install vps on my server. How should i do that? Any tutorial for openvz?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> !vps
[15:13] <cybersplice> spitzi1: Partition Editor is gparted, that's just how it shows up in the menu. :)
[15:13] <eaglestar> ok so i should go to the router and change the connection type?
[15:14] <cybersplice> eaglestar: So long as you have ethernet to it so you don't lose your connection. :)
[15:14] <pyro2927> even usingbazhang, my bad, I'm runnign 9.04
[15:14] <jlie> any thoughts on this error message from klibido?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/283748/
[15:14] <bazhang> pyro2927, updated how?
[15:14] <eaglestar> cybersplice will this make ubuntu easier to connect?
[15:14] <spitzi1> Famn, the repository is unresponsive
[15:15] <sidh> i would need some information for unetbootin, i need to install mythbuntu on a machine that doesn't have cdrom drive (but can boot on usb), the OS will be installed on a CF card that will be placed in the MB with an IDE <> Cf adapter. I tried unetbootin but it seems that it writes some data on the usb drive AND write other data on the ubuntu laptop that are needed for installing, then i dont understand how can i use unetbootin for my install ?
[15:15] <cybersplice> eaglestar: Dunno. Depends. Some cards like WPA better than WEP.
[15:15] <cybersplice> eaglestar: It will make it a lot more secure.
[15:15] <pyro2927> bazhang, I downloaded and installed .debs for 1.75, but I actually just removed those and went back to 1.6 from the repos and it still doesn't work
[15:16] <Victor1> archive.ubuntu.com (The repo) seems to be down for me... is this just me, or is it really down?
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> sidh:   you could use unetbootin to make a bootable 'flash' drive you boot.. and install from that to the CF -  You dont want to use unetbootin i imagine to install TO the cf..
[15:16] <bazhang> pyro2927, the one in repos is 1.51
[15:16] <hwilde> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-common_3.3.2-1ubuntu3.2_i386.deb
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> !slow
[15:16] <hwilde> Why does this update keep failing?
[15:16] <chu_> Damn, I reverted to 2.6.28-15, lost my functions keys and no wireless.
[15:16] <bazhang> hwilde, karmic beta so slow
[15:16] <eaglestar> i don't care about security this is a residential neighborhood i just want to connect wirelessly
[15:16] <qwe> hi to all,in lenovo laptop i am not able to detect expernal projector connected
[15:16] <hwilde> But I have blazing fast internets...
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> hwilde:  so?
[15:16] <pyro2927> bazhang, hrm... I must have added another repo, I'll try disabling and then reinstalling
[15:16] <trece8> !slow !slow !slow :P
[15:16] <cybersplice> !slow | hwilde
[15:16] <hwilde> so if my network is slow, I pity the rest of the world :/
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> I bet the servers got faster. :)
[15:17] <Travis-42> users-admin allows you to create a new user with profile "desktop user" or "administrator"  Which is the default type of profile for a new user for Ubuntu (e.g. the main user you first create?)
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> and they are the bottleneck
[15:17] <hgias> Ϟ 卐卐卐 ϞϞ UTF88 ϞϞ 卐卐卐 Ϟ
[15:17] <hgias> Ϟ 卐卐卐 ϞϞ UTF88 ϞϞ 卐卐卐 Ϟ
[15:17] <hwilde> Dr_Willis, nothing is faster than my network ;)
[15:17] <qwe> any one can help me to get detect projector?
[15:17] <DJones> pyro2927: /whois hgias
[15:17] <trece8> hwilde, is your network made of light? (sorry, offtopic)
[15:17] <hwilde> yes
[15:17] <hwilde> photons
[15:17] <trece8> Mine is made of tachyons
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> nutrinos
[15:18] <trece8> I get the mails before they get here
[15:18] <hwilde> I am ON the internet :)
[15:18] <trece8> Before they write it
[15:18] <pyro2927> DJones?
[15:18] <Victor1> mine uses time bubbles
[15:18] <cybersplice> hwilde: Lots of people have fibre. Second, your connection is irrelevant when the servers you are downloading from are bottlenecked.
[15:18] <DJones> pyro2927: sorry, mis-tab
[15:18] <trece8> i AM the internet (?)
[15:18] <trece8> well, sorry, won't offtopic more here
[15:18] <sidh> Dr_Willis: i'm not sure to understand : i need to place my iso to my flash drive in order to install the distribution from the flash drive to CF card that act as a ide DEVICE
[15:18] <pyro2927> DJones, no worries
[15:18] <Keiya> Aww, tomboy-latex's not in apt?
[15:19] <sidh> s/DEVICE/device <- sorry caps lock pb
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> sidh:  i normally take the iso file. and use unetbootin to make a 'bootable' usb flash drive.. I then put that flash drive in whatever machine.. boot from it and run the installer to then Install to the drive on the machine.
[15:19] <sidh> as there are aloready other data on the flash drive, do i have to format it ?
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> sidh:  theres also the #mythbuntu channel. they may know of a better way to put it on a cf drive.
[15:20] <bazhang> sidh, for unetbootin? sure
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> sidh:  unetbootin will erase/format  the flash drive
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> I think. :)
[15:20] <sidh> ok great
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> you may want to erase it to begin with.
[15:20] <Victor1> Dr_Willis:It didn't for me
[15:20] <spitzi1> Ok, thanks all, ubuntu found the new HD as /dev/sdb1, which I partitioned to a single, unformatted partition. Now I hope that after boot, CloneZilla will recognize it too ...
[15:21] <disappearedng> can someone show me the facebook ip?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Victor1:  i always use the same few flash drives.. so i tend to erase/forma them befor i use unetbootin - just in case. :)
[15:21] <sidh> do i have to format the flash drive in ext3 FS ?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> sidh:  unetbootin uses fat16
[15:21] <bazhang> disappearedng, not sure what you mean there, how is this ubuntu related
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> sidh:  normal windows formating of it..
[15:21] <sidh> ok thanks
[15:22] <AaronMT-M> Ho
[15:22] <gianluca> !it
[15:22] <xopen> how to check i am using 32 bit or 64 bit?
[15:22] <spitzi1> Byeeee
[15:22] <dandre> hello,
[15:22] <cybersplice> xopen: uname -m
[15:23] <xopen> cybersplice, what is i686?
[15:24] <dandre> I am searching for a script that I can put in my /etc/aliases to automatically reply to a mail . I'd like something simple. I haven't found, could anyone help me?
[15:24] <cybersplice> 32bit
[15:24] <xopen> cybersplice, what is 64 bit there?
[15:24] <cybersplice> xopen: 32bit
[15:24] <pyro2927> bazhang, I can't fetch anything from the official repos
[15:24] <cybersplice> Ir gud at typang.
[15:24] <cybersplice> xopen: x86_64
[15:24] <pyro2927> can't even apt-get update
[15:24] <cybersplice> !slow pyro2927
[15:24] <cybersplice> arg
[15:24] <cybersplice> !slow | pyro2927
[15:24] <Keiya> "Package latex is not available, but is referred to by another package." <- wtf no latex?
[15:24] <der|> how do I make apt-get show the links of the packages that it will download ?
[15:25] <Victor1> Is there a GUI way to check the filesystem on a thumb drive?
[15:25] <unimatrix9> join #ubuntu-testing
[15:25] <pyro2927> cybersplice, thanks
[15:25] <unimatrix9> hmm
[15:25] <cybersplice> xopen: Or IA64 i guess. If you're one of the few that have itanium.
[15:25] <cybersplice> pyro2927: np.
[15:26] <Keiya> I don't think Ubuntu even runs on itanium processors
[15:26] <Keiya> Well, it would if someone compiled everything for it
[15:26] <cybersplice> Keiya: What would be the point? Dead architecture, for all intents and purposes.
[15:26] <xopen> how about what is uname -r?
[15:26] <xopen> what is that used for?
[15:26] <Keiya> But you'd have to go to debian if you wanted a distro that supports it. (I /think/ debian still does)
[15:26] <cybersplice> xopen: uname -r tells you what version of the Kernel you are running.
[15:26] <dpac> hey people, my firefox upgraded to 3.5.4pre and I am having problems with it. How do I degrade, my synaptic only seems to have the pre version
[15:26] <Victor1> Keiya: There are processors Linux *doesn't* run on?
[15:26] <cybersplice> Keiya: Debian supports almost anything, really.
[15:27] <erUSUL> Keiya: latex per se does not exist you have to install a tex distribution
[15:27] <xopen> cybersplice, thanks
[15:27] <cybersplice> xopen: no worries.
[15:27] <Keiya> Bah, it should do a 'provided by' thing >_>
[15:27] <erUSUL> Keiya: in debian/ubuntu is texlive
[15:28] <dpac> hey people, my firefox upgraded to 3.5.4pre and I am having problems with it. How do I degrade, my synaptic only seems to have the pre version?
[15:28] <James_T_Kirk> Hello everyone.
[15:28] <erUSUL> dpac: are you in jaunty ?
[15:28] <dpac> erUSUL: yeah, its jaunty
[15:28] <erUSUL> Victor1: no ;)
[15:28] <Victor1> Is there any GUI way to check the filesystem on a thumb drive?
[15:29] <Keiya> "Need to get 131MB of archives." <- Oh dear. This is going to take /forever/ right now, isn't it?
[15:29] <erUSUL> dpac: then it is impossible that firefox upgraded to 3.5.4pre by itself
[15:29] <Pici> Could someone who uses transmission check what port the web based interface defaults to?
[15:29] <Keiya> >_>
[15:29] <Ali_> hi i just upgraded to karmic and now get no sound!
[15:29] <Pici> Ali_ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[15:29] <erUSUL> !ff35 | dpac
[15:29] <cybersplice> Victor1: gparted?
[15:29] <cybersplice> Keiya: Yes. Yes, it is.
[15:29] <dpac> erUSUL: well, I have added a couple of repositories, maybe they did it. I mean I updated and it updated the firefox to 3.5.4pre.
[15:30] <saturnin1> Hello,  I need some help.  I tried installing fonts that I use at work and it broke firefox, thunderbird, and viewing .pdf files.  Firefox and .pdf files show horizontal lines where there should be words and thunderbird starts for a sec then closes (crashes?)
[15:30] <Anstice> Victor1: Right-click on the icon on the desktop then go to the volume tab then look at File System.
[15:31] <Anstice> Victor1: Oops, properties first
[15:31] <erUSUL> dpac: what "couple of repositories" you added?
[15:31] <James_T_Kirk> Question: Is there a way (in Jaunty) to run two (or more) "sudo apt-get" instances?
[15:31]  * Keiya can't wait until Karmic is stable and released.
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> James_T_Kirk:  not that ive ever seen.. that could cause issues
[15:31] <James_T_Kirk> Meaning: Can I run two "sudo apt-get install" instances in two (or more) Terminal windows...
[15:31] <Keiya> Because it's Karmic /Koala/. And Koalas? Are awesime.
[15:31] <Keiya> That is all.
[15:31] <XiXaQ> James_T_Kirk: that would not be wise.
[15:32] <James_T_Kirk> Dr_Willis: What issues?
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> James_T_Kirk:  database being in one state while another app is thinking its in a different state...
[15:32] <dpac> erUSUL: deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-security main restricted
[15:32] <dpac> deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-security restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties
[15:32] <dpac> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-security universe
[15:32] <dpac> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-security multiverse
[15:32] <dpac> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[15:32] <FloodBot1> dpac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:32] <James_T_Kirk> XiXaQ: I have tried, it hasnt worked... why would it not be wise?
[15:32] <dpac> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[15:32] <Keiya> James_T_Kirk: That would be illogical. (And probably break apt somehow.)
[15:32] <James_T_Kirk> dpac: please use pastebin
[15:32] <XiXaQ> James_T_Kirk: would you want one instance of apt-get to install an application that's you're currently uninstalling?
[15:32] <cybersplice> Keiya: Nice.
[15:33] <cybersplice> :D
[15:33] <dpac> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283890/
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> or trying to install somthing while the database is gettting updated..
[15:33] <n8tuser> how do one resets the printing page size to letter in OpenOffice Writer, it keeps defaulting on A4,   frekin hp printer keeps asking for A4 paper even though it is set to Letter
[15:33] <James_T_Kirk> XiXaQ: Well, at the moment I am running a "sudo apt-get update" .... while that is running, my /var/lock/ is unavailable, so I cant run anything else...
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> Now downloading packages   from different servers  at the same time would be handy..
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> James_T_Kirk:  yes. thats  how its designed..  it locks it so only one instance can run at a time.
[15:34] <saturnin1> Help! I tried installing fonts that I use at work and it broke firefox, thunderbird, and viewing .pdf files.  Firefox and .pdf files show horozontal lines where there should be words and thunderbird starts for a sec then closes (crashes?)
[15:34] <James_T_Kirk> Dr_Willis: so there is no work_around?
[15:34] <XiXaQ> James_T_Kirk: right. That's a very good thing. Otherwise, you could get an application that wouldn't work because some of it was using a new version and some of it an old version.
[15:34] <Keiya> Dr_Willis: Normally, the server has more bandwidth than you.
[15:34] <Keiya> ... normally.
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> James_T_Kirk:   theres no problem to work around.. its designed that way.....
[15:34] <XiXaQ> James_T_Kirk: you wouldn't want to work around that. It would break your system.
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> Keiya:  i mean from different servers.. get package A from server a.. package b from server b.
[15:35] <James_T_Kirk> XiXaQ: Thanks.... well, am still learning, even though this is my second year of using Ubuntu
[15:35] <vxr> can we run that in multiple ?
[15:35] <Keiya> Dr_Willis: Right, I mean that normally one server is enough to mostly saturate your connection.
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> Keiya:  i think ive noticed this feature  in 9.10 actually with some servers.. (or else the apt-get upgrade output is messing up
[15:36] <dpac> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283890/
[15:36] <Keiya> Except when releasetime rolls around. :P
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> Keiya:  i rarely notice a single server giveing me stuff  more then 1/4 my speed i can take it at.
[15:36] <cybersplice> Dr_Willis: It doesn't matter where you DL from, all the mirrors will be tanked. And i'm pretty sure it only DLs one package at a time in any case, so...
[15:36] <James_T_Kirk> Another question: Has any software developer made a vector graphics as good as Adobe Illustrator for Linux? Or has anyone "ported" it to run in "native" rather than "virtualization" mode?
[15:36] <erUSUL> dpac: probably the update came via http://paste.ubuntu.com/283890/
[15:36] <erUSUL> dpac: probably the update came via deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[15:37] <erUSUL> dpac: but i dunno what to add... you got what you asked for...
[15:37] <cybersplice> James_T_Kirk: You can run it in WINE, which is not an emulator, or you can use inkscape or something. Noone will port it, because Adobe won't port it, and it would be illegal to reverse engineer it in order to do the port. :)
[15:37] <dpac> erUSUL:  thanks, I'll try removing that
[15:38] <XiXaQ> James_T_Kirk: think that you share a bike with someone. You both own it, so you both trust that you can use it. There is a physical "lock" there, that if you're using it, the other cannot. Now, if you were to work around that lock, you'd find your self jumping on a bike that wasn't there. That would hurt your ass and ego. :)
[15:38] <Keiya> Damn proprietary software.
[15:38] <James_T_Kirk> Eish! Why is Adobe being so DIFFICULT? Dont they realise they could easily break the Apple-Microsoft monopoly of their Creative Suite packages?
[15:38] <erUSUL> James_T_Kirk: tried inkscape ? or xaraxl ?
[15:38] <Keiya> James_T_Kirk: Proprietary developers are like that
[15:38] <James_T_Kirk> There are many more people using Linux than Apple AND Microsoft combined... I think
[15:38] <Keiya> Use Free Software
[15:39] <Keiya> ... And no, it's microsoft than linux and apple combined :P
[15:39] <saturnin1> Damn Ubuntu.  When it breaks no one will help you fix it and your stuck dong a complete system install, which is what I'm facing.  Just like windows.
[15:39] <James_T_Kirk> erUSUL: I tried.... Inkscape DOESNT handle CMYK and Xaraxl has a very hard learning curve
[15:39] <saturnin1> It's what I'm facing again.  Right now.
[15:39] <cybersplice> James_T_Kirk: Sadly there's probably not enough of a market for them.
[15:39] <Keiya> Whar broke, saturnin1?
[15:39] <saturnin1> no support.
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> demand a refund!
[15:39] <XiXaQ> saturnin1: that's not true... You get customer support.
[15:39] <saturnin1> I tried installing fonts that I use at work and it broke firefox, thunderbird, and viewing .pdf files.  Firefox and .pdf files show horozontal lines where there should be words and thunderbird starts for a sec then closes (crashes?)
[15:39] <Keiya> ... what do you think this channel is?
[15:39] <saturnin1> Now I have no browser or E-mail that I can use.
[15:40] <saturnin1> or pdf files.
[15:40] <stefg> !attitude | saturnin1
[15:40] <James_T_Kirk> cybersplice: BUT if they would port to LINUX, many people WOULD switch! WHO NEEDS VIRUSES!
[15:40] <erUSUL> James_T_Kirk: seems easier for you to add CMYK to inkscape (or pay someone to add it for you) than to port illustrator
[15:40] <James_T_Kirk> I hate Microsoft... but am comfortable with Apple.
[15:40] <erUSUL> saturnin1: how did you installed that fonts ?
[15:40] <cybersplice> James_T_Kirk: Sadly, public companies very rarely think that way.
[15:40] <James_T_Kirk> erUSUL: Well, HOW would CMYK be added to Inkscape? And WHO would do so?
[15:41] <saturnin1> From directions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts I did the following:
[15:41] <saturnin1> cd to /usr/share/fonts/truetype and made a directory.
[15:41] <saturnin1> then ran the command "sudo fc-cache -f -v"
[15:41] <saturnin1> Logged-out and back in and these three things were broken (possibly more?).
[15:41] <FloodBot1> saturnin1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:41] <vigo> Any suggestions for a wiki package that is not complicated?
[15:41] <James_T_Kirk> Am gonna write a letter to those people in Redmond, WA, at the Adobe HQs
[15:41] <saturnin1> To try and undo the problem I removed the directory I had created and re-ran the command "sudo fc-cache -f -v" then re-logged-in.  In desparation I then used synaptic to reinstall any anything that was already installed when I searched for "font."
[15:41] <Anstice> location of .conkyrc guys?
[15:41] <erUSUL> saturnin1: undo the steps you did
[15:41] <erUSUL> Anstice: ~/
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> Anstice:  you make one in your home dir.
[15:42] <erUSUL> Anstice: your home forlder
[15:42] <saturnin1> I can't.  I have no browser to go to http anything.  sorry
[15:42] <Anstice> Thanks.
[15:42] <happosade> what command was it in wget, that I may say it to only download files that have: .mp3 .mov .m4a...
[15:42] <Keiya> :J
[15:42] <erUSUL> happosade: -A*.mp3 iirc (check man page)
[15:42] <sipior> James_T_Kirk: be sure to threaten them with photon torpedoes.
[15:42] <XiXaQ> saturnin1: how did you install the fonts?
[15:43] <saturnin1> I just posted that and got a flood warning.
[15:43] <blip-> it seems that gvfs comes installed by default in ubuntu... is this package required by gnome to operate ?
[15:43] <happosade> erUSUL: so for example: -A*.mp3 *.ogg
[15:43] <happosade> ?
[15:43] <saturnin1> Repast:  From directions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts I did the following: cd to /usr/share/fonts/truetype and made a directory. then ran the command "sudo fc-cache -f -v" Logged-out and back in and these three things were broken (possibly more?).
[15:43] <erUSUL> happosade: as i said check tha man page for the exact syntax
[15:43] <blip-> I'm trying to know if I can uninstall it.. I actually use KDE env on ubuntu so keeping Gnome working is not something I care about
[15:43] <XiXaQ> saturnin1: that's because you use many lines. Try to contain as much of your messages on a single line, then it's both easier to read and less disruptive to the channel.
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> made a directory? I dont know why you would make a directory saturnin1  what dir did you make?
[15:44] <blip-> gvfs is the gnome virtual file system btw... I just can't tell what that means
[15:44] <vigo> I was looking at ikiwiki. any one used that or know a simple user friendly one?
[15:44] <erUSUL> blip-: yes is needed by gnome
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> vigo:  i use tiddlywiki :) No idea what ikiwiki does or howit compares
[15:45] <blip-> erUSUL: ok i'll uninstall then. thanks
[15:45] <vigo> Dr_Willis: Thank you.
[15:45] <erUSUL> blip-: kde equivalent is KIO afaik
[15:45] <saturnin1> I cd's to usr/share/fonts/truetype and typed mkdir "blah" then copied the font files to it from my thumbdrive and ran the command "sudo fc-cache -f -v".  All in a terminal window.
[15:45] <untitled> hi, why when I start some process in gnu/screen, there are 2 instances of it in the output of 'ps'? /usr/bin/screen.real process_name and /usr/bin/SCREEN.real process_name
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> vigo:  and theres a dozen+ variants on tiddlywiki and its soooooo customizable its amazing
[15:46] <spreadthelove> how long do you think the repos are going to be down?
[15:46] <XiXaQ> saturnin1: why did you have to force it?
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> spreadthelove:  they have been gettting faster for me all day
[15:46] <spreadthelove> i still cant connect
[15:47] <saturnin1> I was simply following the directions that said this is how to do it.
[15:47] <resno> spreadthelove: i am downloading the updates but its not fast at all
[15:47] <vigo> Dr_Willis: didlywiki? I did not see tidli in the repos.
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> saturnin1:  to be honest.. i just copy the fonts to the .fonts directory
[15:48] <blip-> JEDIDIAH__: Jajajaya
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> vigo:  "TiddlyWiki' is a self contained Wiki system in a html file.  its not in the repos.
[15:48] <vigo> Dr_Willis: Thank you.
[15:48] <XiXaQ> saturnin1: ok. Did you set permissions on the directory you made and the files in it?
[15:49] <saturnin1> That later occured to me, but I had already tried to undo by erasing the directory and rerunning the command.
[15:49] <XiXaQ> saturnin1: it also sais that the easiest way to add fonts is to put them in your /home/username/.fonts directory.
[15:49] <XiXaQ> saturnin1: ok. What happened then?
[15:49] <untitled> why when I start some process in gnu/screen, there are 2 instances of it in the output of 'ps'? /usr/bin/screen.real process_name and /usr/bin/SCREEN.real process_name
[15:50] <saturnin1> Nothing.  Firefox, Thunderbird, and .pf are still broken.  no change.
[15:50] <saturnin1> sorry  .pdf files.
[15:50] <XiXaQ> saturnin1: something happened. Were you able to reinstall the fonts?
[15:52] <saturnin1> No.  I haven't been able to do anything about the fonts.  I deleted what I had put there to try and install them, so thought that having removed what I copied would remove the problem.  It didn't.
[15:52] <saturnin1> As far as I know, only what was there before I started should be there now.
[15:52] <TheTom> so, is there a way that i can automatically open 4 terminals and arrange them nicely on the fourth desktop at each startup?
[15:53] <TheTom> these will "tail -f" different logs from /var/log
[15:53] <saturnin1> II used synaptic to remove and reinstall Firefox but that made no difference.
[15:53] <pedroamorim> need to prepare a document on quality management
[15:53] <pedroamorim> have any link with that?
[15:53] <TheTom> saturnin1: that's synthetic. no good for ya. use orgaptic.
[15:53] <XiXaQ> saturnin1: have you rerun the fc-cache command afterwards, and logged out and back in again?
[15:54] <saturnin1> I did that.  That was my fiorst response to the problem.  Remove what I installed and rerun the command.
[15:54] <XiXaQ> saturnin1: oh, that's never useful. I hope you payed attention to what else was being removed?
[15:54] <saturnin1> Hence the synaptic approach.
[15:54] <XiXaQ> saturnin1: what did fc-cache tell you?
[15:55] <sajes> What's the next ubuntu release named? Krazy kaper? I forgot.
[15:56] <saturnin1> XiXaQ: It was over a week ago.  I don't really now what the output was.
[15:56] <XiXaQ> sajes: #ubuntu+1
[15:56] <grturner> karmic koala
[15:56] <Pici> grturner : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[15:57] <sajes> Pici: He was answering my question.
[15:57] <wootR_> hm
[15:57] <system404> quick question guys how do i get evolution mail client to minimise to tray without loading any other apps such as alltray
[15:57] <crescendo> I just installed a Linux OS (Ubuntu) to a disk with three partitions, [ fat32 ][ /boot ][ /root (encrypted) ] - grub tries to boot, but returns error (15) after loading stage 1.5.  What do I need to do to gather more information so that I might troubleshoot?
[15:57] <XiXaQ> system404: you don't.
[15:57] <system404> surely there must be a way for such a simple task
[15:58] <ikonia> crescendo: 1.) why are you putting /boot on a fat partition 2.) how did you encypt root
[15:58] <XiXaQ> system404: no. Why?
[15:58] <bobzip> Any quirks installing ubuntu With windows 7
[15:58] <crescendo> ikonia, I didn't put it on a fat32 partition; I put it on an ext2 partition as /boot - secondly, I encrypted / during the Ubuntu install process
[15:58] <ikonia> bobzip: no
[15:58] <ikonia> crescendo: ahhh I see they are your 3 partitions
[15:59] <system404> because i like my mail client to start up with my computer in a minimised state so as its allways there running me and alerting me of new mail allways without having to remember to turn it on
[15:59] <Pici> sajes: sorry.
[15:59] <bobzip> Grub will put 7 on boot list?
[15:59] <ikonia> bobzip: if it finds it, sure
[15:59] <system404> grub will put 7 on boot list as windows vista loader
[15:59] <crescendo> ikonia, add new partition -> set up encrypted -> format as ext4 -> use as / -- something like that, using the Alternate installer
[15:59] <sipior> system404: i seem to recall reading (a good long while ago), that the lack of built-in "system tray" functionality was a deliberate design decision on the part of the evolution coders.
[15:59] <XiXaQ> system404: we don't have a "tray" in Ubuntu. We have a notification area. It's not supposed to be used that way, so core GNOME applications don't normally do it.
[16:00] <bobzip> Ok thanks
[16:00] <system404> well is there anyway to have it started up running in the backround
[16:00] <ikonia> crescendo: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120091
[16:00] <XiXaQ> system404: you do, however, have mail notifiers that you can run. It's much more efficient than running Evolution for that.
[16:00] <system404> notifiers?
[16:01] <ikonia> crescendo: sorry - wrong url
[16:01] <sipior> system404: however, check out the "mail-notification" and "mail-notification-evolution" packages
[16:01] <XiXaQ> system404: Alltray does this. why don't you want to use it? It's designed to do what you want.
[16:01] <ubox> does anyone know why my external hard drive only wants to mount as root owned?
[16:01] <crescendo> !encryption
[16:01] <system404> cool ill do that thanks
[16:01] <XiXaQ> system404: yes, to check your inboxes and tell you when you receive mail.
[16:01] <saturnin1> Can someone suggest where else I might get some help with this broken Mozilla and .pdf as I'm out of options now and may hay have to abandon this Linux thing if it can't be fixed.
[16:01] <system404> i dont wish to have such apps running and using memory for silly little tasks
[16:01] <XiXaQ> system404: if you check out alltrays manpage, you'll see that it has some options that you can use.
[16:02] <ubox> saturnin1: what's the problem? (i just got in)
[16:02] <sipior> system404: memory is cheap. if you're not using the memory you paid for, you're wasting it, yes?
[16:02] <system404> cool ill do that thanks
[16:02] <saturnin1> I tried installing fonts that I use at work and it broke firefox, thunderbird, and viewing .pdf files.  Firefox and .pdf files show horozontal lines where there should be words and thunderbird starts for a sec then closes (crashes?)From directions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts I did the following: cd to /usr/share/fonts/truetype and made a directory. then ran the command "sudo fc-cache -f -v" Logged-out and back in and these three 
[16:02] <XiXaQ> system404: using a mail notifier will use a lot less memory than running Evolution in the notification area.
[16:02] <system404> sipior true but i like to use my memory for usefull fings and do not wish it to be wasted on silly little tasks
[16:02] <ikonia>  !encrypted | crescendo
[16:03] <system404> so best to use notifier to run then when i get new mail fire up evolution and check my mail then
[16:03] <vox> 6c/win 72
[16:03] <saturnin1> in rereading that it seems I left out a step.  after making the directory I copied the fonts to the new directory.
[16:03] <crescendo> @ikonia: but I'm looking for a whole-disk encryption, /
[16:03] <ubox> satrunin1: you didn't copy them?
[16:03] <sipior> system404: it can't be too silly a task, since it seems to be fairly important to you :-)
[16:03] <XiXaQ> system404: how much does Alltray use, it can't be that much .
[16:04] <saturnin1> yes, I did copy the new fonts to the new directory.
[16:04] <ikonia> crescendo: yess, I thought that was the right guide, somewhere there is a guide, it bascailly shows you how to make /etc available during boot for encyption
[16:04] <XiXaQ> system404: and Evolution certainly wouldn't use much less ram by incorporating that feature into its core, so your argument doesn't make any sense.
[16:04] <ubox> what did you miss?
[16:04] <system404> ill use mail notifier it seems to be best option
[16:04] <ubox> system404: that's what i use, i like it. it even opens up in gmail-web
[16:05] <ikonia> crescendo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemOnIntrepid
[16:05] <ubox> so
[16:05] <XiXaQ> system404: if being notified about new mails is what you want, then that's the best choice. Evolutions data doesn't depend on Evolution running though. Evolution-data-server handles that, and it runs in the background automatically.
[16:05] <ubox> external hdd mounts as root, i want it to mount as me.. any idea?
[16:06] <system404> im not saying that im saying having evolution running then alltray running just to get it on the taskbar is a waste of resources when i can as u pointed out just use mail notifier then when i get mail fire up evolution check my mail and be done that seems my best option
[16:06] <spreadthelove> what would i enter to update to karmic without using the gui
[16:06] <spreadthelove> thje gui doesnt want to work
[16:06] <raphaelwb> I have problems (Mic low volume) in karmic Koala (Vostro 1510 Realtek High Definition Audio). somebody can help?
[16:06] <Pici> spreadthelove : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[16:06] <big-G-upstairs> heeeeeeelllooo Ubuntufriends!
[16:06] <crescendo> ikonia, thanks. hopefully this will work on jaunty... any idea on how to salvage my existing install?
[16:07] <vox> crescendo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[16:07] <ikonia> crescendo: if you read through that it explains the pre-reqs, you may want to check (and then fix) those
[16:07] <wootR_> is the ubuntu archive somehow very slow?
[16:07] <ikonia> wootR_: which one
[16:07] <DJones> !slow | wootR_
[16:07] <IdleOne> wootR_: past two days it has been for me
[16:08] <ubuntulinuxx> wootR_: same here, u can choose a different mirror or apt-p2p
[16:08] <wootR_> okay, thanks :P
[16:08] <crescendo> <3 apt-p2p
[16:09] <imi> hello
[16:09] <hiems> Hello. Any idea of how to have a zenity command run on a NetworkManager script? (anything under /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d)
[16:09] <imi> is there an autostart feature in gnome?
[16:09] <saturnin1> are you still out there ubox?
[16:09] <imi> something like ~/.bashrc in bash
[16:09] <system404> Mail Notification can not contact Evolution. Make sure that Evolution is running and that the Evolution Jean-Yves Lefort's Mail Notification plugin is loaded.
[16:10] <system404> evolution is running as for this plugin though i cant see it in my evolution pluginswhere do i get it from
[16:10] <hiems> imi: System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Applications
[16:10] <hiems> gah forget the "Sessions"
[16:10] <hiems> it's just System->Preferences->Startup Applications
[16:10] <imi> hiems: thank you. Is there also some system wide custom startup scrip launcing config file?
[16:10] <sipior> system404: did you grab mail-notification-evolution?
[16:11] <system404> yes sipior
[16:11] <saturnin1> Oh well... for those of you who gave it a shot thanks for thinking about the font killing my mozilla aps problem.  i guess Linux just isn't ready for non system administrators to use.  It was an interesting experiment though.
[16:11] <system404> when i set it up it cant find evolution plugin
[16:11] <voidje> Helloes.
[16:11] <sipior> system404: and you restarted evolution?
[16:11] <system404> yes
[16:12] <stefg> saturnin1: the real reason is that the fonts you installed are broken from an ubuntu perspective. ubuntu uses utf-8 so the encoding simply didn't work
[16:12] <saturnin1> Before I give up completely and reinstall XP, does anyone have any suggestion where else I might find help with this problem?
[16:13] <trelosfonias> can you repeat the problem?
[16:13] <ubuntulinuxx> saturnin1: if you reinstall xp, keep a blank partion for ubuntu in the future (recommendation)
[16:13] <IdleOne> so the problem is  PIBKAC related and not Ubuntu
[16:13] <jmburgess> haha
[16:13] <stefg> saturnin1: remove the fonts, sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[16:13] <suhasa> hello ladies and gentlemen, could you please tell me "what is the use of 'apt-get clean'?
[16:14] <saturnin1> OK stefg... but my compter isn't working.  I can;t fix it, and no where where I was told I could get lots of help if something went wrong can help me fix it.  Where does that leave a person who needs a compter to do their work?
[16:14] <jmburgess> suhasa: apt get keeps a lot of temp and cached files, apt-get clean removes them
[16:14] <llutz> suhasa: read "man apt-get" to enlighten yourself
[16:14] <saturnin1> It leaves them with windows.
[16:14] <IdleOne> suhasa: it "cleans" un-needed deb files from the system
[16:14] <ashmew2> suhasa : for more info man apt-get
[16:14] <saturnin1> I hate it, but I am stck.
[16:14] <voidje> Ladies?
[16:14] <suhasa> Thank you very much for your help Ladies and Gentlemen
[16:15] <IdleOne> welcome suhasa
[16:15] <James_T_Kirk> IdleOne: are there really "unneeded" deb files? and how do i find out?
[16:15] <stefg> saturnin1: you still have the option of paid support by canonical. if you don't want to jump through loops. To fix a computer with broken X (no Gui) there's the recovery mode or the Live CD
[16:16] <saturnin1> stefg... thanks for the command to try.  brb.
[16:16] <IdleOne> James_T_Kirk: apt-get clean :)
[16:16] <IdleOne> James_T_Kirk: apt-get autoremove also
[16:16] <James_T_Kirk> IdleOne: then what? it will list the "unneeded" ones, and ask me to clean them out?
[16:16] <IdleOne> James_T_Kirk: yes
[16:16] <James_T_Kirk> IdleOne: i knew autoremove.... lol
[16:17] <James_T_Kirk> IdleOne: super... danke
[16:17] <ubox> what file controls the parameters for automount?
[16:17] <llutz> James_T_Kirk: read "man apt-get" too, it will just delete the downloaded .debs
[16:17]  * James_T_Kirk is wondering why Yahoo Mail has gotten so terribly SLOW, while they are claiming to have improved it!
[16:18] <johnfg> Hi folks
[16:19] <johnfg> I read the release  notes for 9.10 and ran update-manager -d from a console.
[16:19] <jcdutton> I have a problem with aptitude, it says:  gnome-control-center: Depends: capplets-data (>= 1:2.28.0-0ubuntu3) but 1:2.28.0-0ubuntu2 is installed, but aptitude show gnome-control-center  has  gnome-control-center: Depends capplets-data (>= 1:2.28.0-0ubuntu2), capplets-data (< 1:2.29)
[16:19] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[16:19] <stefg> johnfg: #ubuntu+1
[16:20]  * James_T_Kirk thinks it would be cool if someone figured out a way of having multiple "apt-get install" sessions without corrupting the database...
[16:20] <saturnin1> stefg:  Thanks for trying "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig"  seemed to do a whole lot of things.  When it finished I still can't run Thunderbird and Firefox still produces horizontal lines rather than text.  Everything I had copied to the system had been removed when it first failed.
[16:20] <EvaLuaTe> i have a problem with the updates for around 12 hours now. I always get this error:  Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.88.37), connection timed out
[16:20] <saturnin1> Still no work
[16:20] <johnfg> However, I get the error: Could not open display.
[16:20] <stian1979> Anyone know why kinit don't show up at boot?
[16:20] <johnfg> stefg: Is that a different channel?
[16:20] <DJones> !slow | EvaLuaTe
[16:21] <stefg> johnfg: yes
[16:21] <James_T_Kirk> saturnin1: maybe you should just run sudo dpkg -1 (i had a similar problem witx XORG once)
[16:21] <stefg> saturnin1: you might need to log out and back, maybe even reboot
[16:21] <mayajowo> test
[16:21] <James_T_Kirk> but i am sure erUSUL will correct me.... lol
[16:21] <jcdutton> EvaLuaTe, use a mirror. I use http://gb.archive.ubunut.com for security updates
[16:21] <James_T_Kirk> mayajowo: test for what?
[16:21] <EvaLuaTe> DJones: ohh, cool. I just thought there was a problem with my system. I'll just wait a couple more days for the updates. thanks
[16:22] <DJones> EvaLuaTe: your welcome
[16:22] <A-L-I-> # ubuntu-sa
[16:22] <shruggar> is there a way to "manually" add passwords to the "Passwords and Encryption Keys" keyring, the intention being that it's a good, encrypted, way to store passwords if I ever need a reference?
[16:22] <diddly> hi all, trying to update 8.04 desktop, but synaptic stalls when downloading package info, (tried both canada and generic mirrors).  is this a known issue?  servers down?
[16:22] <saturnin1> stefg:  Thanks...  I'll try that.  thank you for trying to help.
[16:22] <James_T_Kirk> Off Topic: Anyone knows where I can get really cool FPS free games for Ubuntu?
[16:22] <llutz> James_T_Kirk: what do you "sudo dpkg -1" expect to do? (unknown option)
[16:22] <stefg> !games
[16:23] <jcdutton> It does not help that karmic updates are broken at the moment.
[16:23] <James_T_Kirk> llutz: i wasnt sure with that one, so i said perhaps erUSUL will correct me... lol
[16:23] <jcdutton> due to dependency errors
[16:23] <ubuntulinuxx> mirrors are under heavy load, use torrents such as apt-p2p
[16:23] <James_T_Kirk> stefg: thanks
[16:24] <stygian> update manager says that theres new updates that cant be autheticated or verified or some such business.  what gives?
[16:24] <system404> trying to drag and drop sum evolution plugins into plugin folder how do i temorarily get sudod up and drop ma files in keep gettin permission denied
[16:24] <erUSUL> !gpgerr | stygian
[16:24] <dalekleader> Question: Has anyone been successful with 4 or more monitors on Jaunty with Catalyst 9.9?
[16:24] <stygian> ive not added any repositories.
[16:25] <system404> trying to drag and drop sum evolution plugins into plugin folder how do i temorarily get sudod up and drop ma files in keep gettin permission denied
[16:26] <ubuntulinuxx> use 'audo evolution' to bypass permissions in evolution then restart evolution the typical manner
[16:26] <ubuntulinuxx> sudo*
[16:26] <RadJohn> Hello.
[16:26] <XiXaQ> ubuntulinuxx: what? No, that sounds like terrible advise.
[16:27] <diddly> ahhh i get it, beta released yesterday, that would explain the bad mirrors performance
[16:27] <ubuntulinuxx> XiXaQ: messy but fixes those permission problems
[16:27] <system404> i dont want to start evolution in sudo im dropping files into the folder evolution is installed
[16:27] <sipior> ubuntulinuxx: without using gksudo, you're likely to create more problems than you solve.
[16:27] <XiXaQ> ubuntulinuxx: You realise that Evolution would be running as a different user with different folders and stuff?
[16:28] <sipior> ubuntulinuxx: and even then it's probably the wrong way to go.
[16:28] <RadJohn> I was wondering if I can get some help with a technical issue?
[16:28] <OerHeks> sipior: same thoughts :-)
[16:28] <ubuntulinuxx> sipior: agreed, gksudo is better
[16:28] <XiXaQ> system404: why do you want to drop stuff in folders? Are you trying to install a plugin? Isn't the plugin packaged?
[16:28] <system404> all i wana do is drop some plugins into the plugin folder where evolution is instaled but permission denied how do i temporarily sudo up drop ma files and be done
[16:28] <sipior> ubuntulinuxx: even so, this is clearly not how evolution is intended to be run.
[16:29] <system404> no the plugin isnt packaged
[16:29] <RadJohn> Does anyone know how to get a Radeon X1300 video card running on Ubuntu 9.04?
[16:29] <XiXaQ> system404: well, anyway. To get a file browser with root privileges, press alt+f2 and run gksu nautilus
[16:30] <XiXaQ> system404: just be careful.
[16:30] <system404> cool thnaks
[16:30] <dalekleader> RadJohn: no but from what i read do not use catalyst 9.9
[16:31] <Technoviking> anyone know of a good timer app in Ubuntu
[16:31] <system404> done worked a treat ats me sorted cheers guys
[16:31] <RadJohn> I have tried everything ... from using 8.04 to use the fglrx drivers to then 9.04 with just the open source ati drivers but nothing has worked.
[16:32] <dalekleader> RadJohn: i have spent the last week trying to set 4 monitors up, let me set you up with some links
[16:32] <Fieldy> is apt-get update going very slow for anybody else? It's been that way for me since last night. I even tried switching from us mirrors to eu ones. I don't have any slowness with anything else that's http.
[16:32] <crook> Hi All.People please help me instal intel drivers to ubuntu.I have download xf86-video-intel-2.9.0.tar.bz2 but have no ideas how to install...
[16:33] <ubuntulinuxx> mirrors are under heavy load, use torrents such as apt-p2p
[16:34] <Fieldy> ubuntulinuxx: are they under abnormally high load at this time?
[16:34] <ubuntulinuxx> yes
[16:34] <Explodus__> Is there a way to re-check for the closest mirror on the repositories from cli?
[16:34] <DJones> !slow | Fieldy
[16:34] <Fieldy> ah okay
[16:34] <Fieldy> i understand, thanks :) i will try apt-p2p.
[16:34] <robs_> hi
[16:34] <Explodus__> !torrents
[16:34] <RadJohn> dalekleader: Ready for the links when you are :)
[16:35] <robs_> I need to modify the jaunty i386 server installer kernel, it wont boot on my industrial hardware. how can I do that ?
[16:35] <dpac> hey, I got a problem. I am getting GPG error on pressing reload in Synaptic Package Manager. I remember I added some keys few days back from a guide on the internet. Is that causing errors? How do I remove those keys?
[16:35] <danbhfive_jaunty> Fieldy: I selected a different mirrot and it worked better
[16:36] <dalekleader> RadJohn: i am just writing it in my blog, will forward when done.  It is a work in progress project.  give me 5
[16:36] <Arc> just upgraded to 9.10 beta, firefox opens but neither 3.0 or 3.5 render anything in the window.  i tried removing and reinstalling firefox package, no dice.  advice?
[16:36] <RadJohn> dalekleader: No problem.
[16:37] <MTecknology> !karmic | Arc
[16:37] <Arc> thanks ubottu
[16:37] <MTecknology> lol
[16:37] <ubuntulinuxx> arc: 9.10 chat room is #ubuntu+1, you can try an alt browser, such as apt-get install seamoney
[16:37] <ubuntulinuxx> seamoney*
[16:37] <Fieldy> danbhfive_jaunty: yeah I tried that, no go. the explanation given makes sense to me
[16:37] <stygian> k
[16:37] <Fieldy> just installed apt-p2p
[16:37] <thefirstdude> what to download to get times new roman
[16:37] <ubuntulinuxx> seamonkey* sorry about that ark
[16:37] <thefirstdude> I mean font, sry
[16:38] <zamba> thefirstdude: msttcorefonts
[16:38] <zamba> thefirstdude: the package
[16:38] <MTecknology> ubuntulinuxx: Ark was gone before your first reply..
[16:38] <ubuntulinuxx> MTech: sorry, didn't see that, on cell phone
[16:38] <MTecknology> !away > monteith_afk
[16:40] <nikhil> i am unable to share files between ubuntu and vista. i have ubuntu in my desktop and vista on my laptop.  Connected through wireless. i can see each other but not able to share files. Further i cannot as well share internet connection from ubuntu to vista laptop through wireless
[16:41] <thefirstdude> what to download for openoffice to make python modules
[16:41] <RadJohn> dalekleader:  How's it going with the blog?
[16:41] <thefirstdude> macros, sry
[16:42] <ubuntulinuxx> nikhil: from vista, you can retrieve files from ubuntu through sftp (ssh)
[16:42] <thefirstdude> s/modules/macros/
[16:42] <rsc___> anyone here do python?
[16:43] <nikhil> how to do that?
[16:44] <dalekleader> RadJohn: http://linuxfixntricks.blogspot.com/
[16:44] <jcdutton> nikhil, try a tool called winscp.
[16:44] <RadJohn> dalekleader: thanks much!
[16:44] <Pici> rsc___: Python's support channel is #python on this network.  you may need to !register to join though.
[16:45] <dalekleader> RadJohn: the links should give you a start, considering I haven't finsihed the write-up I will be here to help
[16:46] <pro-rsoft> archive.ubuntu.com down?
[16:47] <time_friend> so many people!
[16:47] <genii> !slow | pro-rsoft
[16:47] <pro-rsoft> hrm, it seems fixed again
[16:47] <nikhil> thanks, downloading winscp. however, cant i access ubuntu folders from windows explorer and vice verse from nautilus?
[16:47] <pro-rsoft> genii, ah, cool. thanks
[16:48] <jevangelo> hey, im having an odd problem with network connectivity, i have an apache server serving out a website and i have openssh-server loaded.  after about 15 minutes of these services being up, apache and ssh services stop serving, but i can still ping the IP of the server
[16:50] <stian1979> Anyone know why kinit don't show up at boot?
[16:50] <Hackboy125> Could I Have some help here I have a laptop the speakers work fine but when i plug headphones in i dont hear anything
[16:50] <xlq> stian1979: passing the 'quiet' option to the kernel?
[16:51] <ZummiG777> Question: What is the method under Ubuntu to create a new user with their home area encrypted like the option in alternate install?
[16:52] <Hackboy125> Could I Have some help here I have a laptop the speakers work fine but when i plug headphones in i dont hear anything
[16:53] <Terabyte> hey how do i get a list of drives at the command line (HDD)
[16:53] <aem-irc-a> what has happen with updates?
[16:53] <joaopinto> Terabyte, sudo fdisk -l
[16:54] <pro-rsoft> aem-irc-a, hrm? you mean the servers are slow?
[16:54] <AnirbanHazra> is the servers on sources.list of Hardy working fine. They are giving time out here
[16:54] <pro-rsoft> !slow | AnirbanHazra
[16:54] <aem-irc-a> pro-rsoft ubuntu says many updates, but updating cannot be done
[16:54] <Hackboy125> Could I Have some help here I have a laptop the speakers work fine but when i plug headphones in i dont hear anything
[16:54] <pro-rsoft> aem-irc-a, read ubuttu's reply above.. maybe thats th eproblem
[16:55] <qp_pq_> how can I re-install my Ubuntu ?
[16:55] <qp_pq_> I have a windows install also
[16:55] <Terabyte> thanks
[16:55] <qp_pq_> and I don't want to loose it
[16:55] <Terabyte> joaopinto
[16:55] <pro-rsoft> qp_pq_, put in the ubuntu cd and reboot into the installer?
[16:55] <pediy> ffff
[16:55] <xlq> Hackboy125: 1. check the headphones work, 2. make sure the laptop can drive the headphones, 3. make sure the headphone socket is the same audio device as the speakers
[16:56] <Terabyte> fffffff
[16:56] <stian1979> xlq: I think I have the quiet option at the kernel line, it's quite quiet at boot.
[16:56] <xlq> 4. make sure the laptop's headphone socket isn't broken
[16:56] <pro-rsoft> Hackboy125, 5. make sure your mixer settings for front headphone out aren't muted
[16:56] <Hackboy125> headphones work
[16:56] <aem-irc-a> pro-rsoft, just don't get that :/ my boyfriend has same problem
[16:56] <Hackboy125> i can drive the headphones in windows
[16:56] <xlq> stian1979: yeah, if you remove the 'quiet' option, you get loads of messages
[16:56] <Hackboy125> how do i check if the headphone socket is in the same audio device as the speakers
[16:57] <stian1979> xlq: so what prevents the kinit to show and read my suspended image?
[16:58] <xlq> stian1979: uh, I don't know
[16:58] <xlq> Hackboy125: well, if only one audio device shows up in Ubuntu, then it's probably not that that's the problem.
[16:58] <Amanj> how to install x-chat ?
[16:59] <pro-rsoft> Amanj, on commandline: sudo apt-get install xchat
[16:59] <jumbers> How can I check what processes are using the most memory? I seem to have run out of my 1GB of memory and I don't know why
[16:59] <pro-rsoft> Amanj, otherwise, go to your package manager and select the "xchat" package and hit Go
[16:59] <LjL> jumbers: how do you know you have run out?
[17:00] <khanh> you can use system monitor
[17:00] <jumbers> LjL: top tells me I have like 17MB free and when I try to launch a half-life server, I get segmentation faults because it can't allocate memory addresses
[17:00] <Amanj> pro-rsoft: E: Couldn't find package xchat
[17:01] <llutz> jumbers: top/htop/ps
[17:01] <jcdutton> jumbers, programs should not seg fault if they cannot allocate memory
[17:01] <LjL> jumbers: "ps aux --sort vsz" will tell you what's taking up the most memory. however... what does "free" report?
[17:01] <Hackboy125> With my Sound Setting nothing i try will get my headphones to work
[17:01] <LjL> jumbers: because you know, it's pretty normal to have little "free" memory, as most ends up cached. but that alone doesn't make allocs fail
[17:02] <jumbers> LjL: 25344
[17:02] <Hackboy125> how do i get my headphones to work
[17:02] <timeoffriend>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[17:02] <timeoffriend> Mem:       1543608    1490880      52728          0      24268    1051680
[17:02] <timeoffriend> -/+ buffers/cache:     414932    1128676
[17:02] <timeoffriend> Swap:       996020      10376     985644
[17:02] <Hackboy125> i have intel hda audio
[17:02] <FloodBot1> timeoffriend: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <k0rupted> hey anyone use terminator with ubuntu and has transparency working?
[17:02] <stian1979> xlq: ok, thanks
[17:02] <jcdutton> Hackboy125, at the terminal try running "alsamixer" and look for a headphone slider
[17:02] <LjL> jumbers: i ment the full outpin, including cached and stuff (like timeoffriend reported, except hopefully in a pastebin)
[17:03] <UltimatePower> Hello, people!
[17:03] <sahil> hello supr gal
[17:03] <Hackboy125> ┌──────────────────[AlsaMixer v1.0.18 (Press Escape to quit)]──────────────────┐
[17:03] <Hackboy125> │ Card: HDA Intel                                                              │
[17:03] <Hackboy125> │ Chip: SigmaTel STAC9205                                                      │
[17:03] <Hackboy125> │ View: [Playback] Capture  All                                                │
[17:03] <Hackboy125> │ Item: Master [dB gain=0.00]                                                  │
[17:03] <FloodBot1> Hackboy125: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:03] <Hackboy125> │                                                                              │
[17:03] <jumbers> LjL: http://pastebin.com/d96b38e1
[17:03] <LjL> jumbers: you have tons of free memory.
[17:04] <eferuzi> hi
[17:04] <jcdutton> oops, .... Hackboy125 where are you
[17:04] <llutz> jumbers: 144848 used, nice
[17:04] <nikhil> thanks used winscp and file sharing problem is solved.  However, how to share internet connection?
[17:04] <LjL> jumbers: specifically, you have  747076 + 25344 bytes free
[17:04] <eferuzi> iam trying to get koha installed on Ubuntu 9.04
[17:04] <eferuzi> without any success has anyone managed to do that
[17:04] <llutz> !ics | nikhil
[17:04] <Hackboy125> can you help me get my headphones to work now
[17:05] <eferuzi> not respond from the Koha IRC
[17:05] <jumbers> LjL: Oh, so the cached is technically free...
[17:05] <eferuzi> please
[17:05] <LjL> jumbers: yes
[17:05] <llutz> jumbers: it will be freed if apps need memory
[17:05] <jcdutton> nikhil, look up iptables config, and then set the vista box to point to the linux box as the default gateway
[17:05] <Hackboy125> can someone help me get my headphones to work
[17:05] <XiXaQ> jumbers: it can be freed. You have about 3.8GB available memory if you include swap. I doubt you'll be able to run out of ram anytime soon.
[17:06] <jumbers> LjL: So then what would cause the program to be unable to allocate the memory addresses it needs?
[17:06] <jcdutton> Hackboy125, did you find a headphone slider ?
[17:06] <Guest76868> anyone knows of a screencapture program that is better than xvidcap. I am trying to capture a video of a presentationwith sound for three hours
[17:06] <XiXaQ> Hackboy125: please don't repeat so frequently.
[17:07] <LjL> jumbers: i wouldn't know that.
[17:07] <r3za> hi guys , how can i make my dsl connection schedule in jaunty ?
[17:07] <danbhfive_jaunty> !screencast | Guest76868
[17:07] <Russian> hey guys
[17:07] <Russian> Is there anyone from Asia here?
[17:07] <jumbers> !hi | Russian
[17:07] <timeoffriend> i'm
[17:08] <nikhil> how to check iptables config?
[17:08] <Russian> timeoffriend:  may I pm you ? =)
[17:08] <Guest76868> thanks!
[17:08] <MTecknology> nikhil: iptables -L
[17:08] <r3za> hi guys , how can i make my dsl connection schedule in jaunty ?
[17:08] <XiXaQ> Russian: we have _many_ channels here, like #ubuntu-ru for Russia.
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> hey guys
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> is it possible to connect via ssh, run a single command then log off in one command??
[17:09] <llutz> ActionParsnip: ssh -c
[17:09] <Fieldy> ActionParsnip: yep. ssh host "command goes here"
[17:09] <SK> hey
[17:09] <Fieldy> it may be useful to have the command you give be verbose if possible, so that you have feedback
[17:09] <r3za> hi guys , how can i make my dsl connection schedule in jaunty ?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Fieldy: would there need to be "s round the command if it had space in it?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> !dsl | r3za
[17:10] <nikhil> i am getting the following output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/283947/
[17:10] <MTecknology> ActionParsnip: This is how I connect to IRC   terminator -m -b -T irssi -x ssh server.com -Xt screen -aAdr -RR irssi irssi
[17:10] <llutz> ActionParsnip: no need
[17:10] <giuseppe93> per server italiani?
[17:11] <Pici> !it | giuseppe93
[17:11] <jcdutton> r3za, why schedule? Why not always on?
[17:11] <r3za> ActionParsnip: no , i make my connection in dsl connection ( network manager ) so i want to schedule that with dsl connection part ( sorry for my bad engilish )
[17:11] <SK> anybody knows a working driver for the mobility hd 4570 under jaunty?
[17:11] <nikhil> after running iptables -L, i get the following output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/283947/
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> llutz: cheers man
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> MTecknology: i just click the pidgin icon, i see what it does though :D
[17:12] <nikitis> Anyone figured out how to get netflix running either via wine?  or linux?  I don't want to hear via vbox or vmware.
[17:12] <Pici> nikitis: no.
[17:12] <YungRipp> Is there a way to switch to my recently installed KDE without restarting the computer or logging in again?
[17:12] <YungRipp> I.e., change the window manager from gnome->kde
[17:13] <MTecknology> YungRipp: You'll need to log out and change your session
[17:13] <jcdutton> nikhil, Try googling for setting nat in iptables
[17:13] <YungRipp> So just logout, that should be sufficient?
[17:13] <r3za> jcdutton: in iran , in night hour , i cant user free INTERNET with no limit , so i want to make my connection schedule to connect in right clock.
[17:13] <jcdutton> nikhil, it is a little complicated to do.
[17:13] <MTecknology> YungRipp: yup
[17:13] <YungRipp> perfect, brb
[17:13] <MTecknology> YungRipp: technically, you 'could' replace. But it's not worth the hassle
[17:13] <MTecknology> just missed ya..
[17:14] <jcdutton> r3za, Ok, you will need to read about cron
[17:14] <nikhil> isnt there a simpler way?
[17:14] <jcdutton> r3za, have one cron job to start it, and another to kill it just before the charging time
[17:14] <MTecknology> nikhil: at
[17:14] <MTecknology> r3za: ^ *
[17:14] <MTecknology> !at
[17:15] <MTecknology> !info at
[17:15] <tread> Hi guys.  I'm having a problem with Totem: it crashes whenever I try to get it to play a certain type of .wav file.  My other Ubuntu box plays it fine in Totem.  I've tried a "complete removal" of Totem in Synaptic, and then reinstaling, but this doesn't fix it.  Please help!  (and don't suggest switching to VLC please :p)
[17:15] <jcdutton> r3za, at and cron do much the same job
[17:15] <blip-> i'm getting some permission errors when running a command with sudo...  in some cases sudo isn't the same as logging in as root... but ubuntu doesn't have a root account.. or is there a way to enable one ?
[17:15] <stygian> blip-, sudo passwd then use su
[17:15] <llutz> !root | blip-
[17:16] <Pici> !noroot | stygian blip-
[17:16] <nikhil> looks pretty complicated!!
[17:16] <r3za> jcdutton: i know cron , but i want to know how can i connect my connection in dsl connection with command to send it for at or cron
[17:16] <jcdutton> blip-, what errors.  sudo is true root
[17:16] <MTecknology> blip-: sudo -s
[17:16] <stygian> !wfm
[17:16] <YungRipp> OK, i just logged out and logged in...but didn't select KDM, or even give me the option of changing
[17:16] <YungRipp> i installed from apt-get
[17:16] <YungRipp> is there a command-line file i need to edit also?
[17:17] <stygian> coming from bsd i couldnt live without su though. oh well
[17:17] <MTecknology> blip-: 'sudo -s' that will give you a root shell
[17:17] <darwish> Does using the 1680x1050 resolution requires the *proprietary* nvidia modules?
[17:17] <darwish> they cause me lots of headaches
[17:17] <darwish> (prop. drivers)
[17:17] <MTecknology> YungRipp: did you install kubuntu-desktop?
[17:17] <YungRipp> yes, I did
[17:17] <YungRipp> via apt-get
[17:17] <MTecknology> !enter
[17:17] <r3za> jcdutton: can u help me ?
[17:18] <YungRipp> Some of the applications are listed there now in the 'Applications' area
[17:18] <blip-> MTecknology: ok I looked at the manpage,  is that any different from running my rsync job with sudo  ?    because i'm getting permission errors on it
[17:18] <jcdutton> r3za, sorry. I don't have the same type of DSL as you
[17:18] <r3za> jcdutton: ok , thanks anyway
[17:18] <MTecknology> YungRipp: when you log out, you should be greeted with a few options on the bottom left (iirc). You select Session, then pick KDE.
[17:18] <zahna> does ubuntu repackage all debian packages, so they are all available for ubuntu?
[17:19] <YungRipp> Hrm, alright
[17:19] <YungRipp> perhaps i need to restart the computer
[17:19] <YungRipp> brb
[17:19] <blip-> jcdutton: rsync permissions errors ,here's an example    rsync: opendir "/home/otheruser/.ssh" failed: Permission denied (13)
[17:19] <MTecknology> blip-: Use 'sudo -s' then 'crontab -e' Then you will be editing the root cron. Be careful doing that
[17:19] <blip-> MTecknology: that's one of the errors I get ^
[17:19] <mrtg> can i change the kernel name in the output of uname -a ?
[17:19] <llutz> blip-: use "sudo -i" to get a login-shell
[17:20] <MTecknology> blip-: You don't want to have 'sudo' in a cron job
[17:20] <josvuk> hi, how to install Python wxWidgets wrappers >=2.8 on ubuntu 9.04 with apt-get, what is the right package name to use.
[17:20] <maco> mrtg: if you recompile it
[17:20] <nikhil> when i had xp on my laptop, there were no problems in sharing internet with ubuntu!
[17:20] <jcdutton> r3za, at a guess you might want to look at ifup and ifdown
[17:20] <Pici> mrtg: What part of the name do you want to change?
[17:20] <josvuk> I can't find a packagename with apt-cache search:)
[17:20] <blip-> MTecknology: it's not a cronjob,  i'm running the initial base backup of dirvish, so I do it manually.  after that's done cron will do the incremental change backup
[17:20] <blip-> MTecknology: so i'm literally typing sudo dirvish --init  home_vault --something
[17:21] <nikhil> is there a similar tool like winscp for ubuntu?
[17:21] <zahna> is any package that's available for debian also available (in some version) for ubuntu?
[17:21] <mrtg> Pici, kernel version
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> josvuk: try sudo apt-get update first
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> josvuk: or search for fewer characters
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> nikhil: scp
[17:21] <Pici> mrtg: Then yes, you'd need to get sources and compile it yourself.
[17:21] <jcdutton> blip-, so "sudo ls /home/otheruser/.ssh"  fails?
[17:21] <MTecknology> blip-: can you give use the whole output of everything in a pastebin?
[17:21] <mrtg> what can i cahnge without recompilation ?
[17:22] <blip-> ok one minute guys
[17:22] <r3za> jcdutton: whats it do ?
[17:22] <jcdutton> blip-, is this your own machine, or a hosted machine
[17:22] <jcdutton> r3za, if it works, one will bring you dsl up, and one will disconnect it
[17:23] <nikhil> can i find scp in the repos?
[17:23] <r3za> jcdutton: its for pppoeconf connection not for dsl connection in network manager
[17:23] <blip-> jcdutton: it's my own remote machine, it's currently turned off so I can't check what you told me.  i'll visit the machine tonight and try it
[17:23] <jcdutton> nikhil, scp == openssh-client
[17:23] <nikhil> one is scponly and other is secpanel, i would prefer a gui!!
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> nikhil: yuo already have it, secpanel is a gui version if CLI scares you
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> !info secpanel
[17:24] <YungRipp> Epic win
[17:24] <YungRipp> no restart needed...and kde owns
[17:27] <Dominik1> will there ever be ZFS support for ubuntu?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> nikhil: or click the desktop. Press CTRL+L and type: ssh://hostname
[17:30] <kyja> if I create a usb stick.. can I have that stick after boot image a windows partition ??
[17:31] <Scunizi> bb
[17:31] <nikhil> thanks, it says access denied
[17:32] <delouche> bonjour a tous
[17:32] <nikhil> i have shared folders in vista
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> nikhil: vista doesnt use ssh, it uses samba
[17:32] <llutz> nikhil: use smb://server
[17:32] <Hackboy125> No I didn't find a headphone slider
[17:33] <Hackboy125> i only found master, PCM, Front
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> nikhil: try CTRL+L  and type: smb://hostname
[17:34] <nikhil> yeah, one step ahead. shows the folders but says unable to mount
[17:34] <Hackboy125> could someone help me get my headphones working
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> nikhil: try smb://hostname/sharename
[17:35] <Blizzerand> Is there a puppy linux channel
[17:35] <llutz>  #puppylinux
[17:36] <Hackboy125> could someone help me get my headphones working?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> puppy rocks
[17:36] <Blizzerand> llutz : thanks , did try #puppy-linux though
[17:36] <leaf-sheep> rocky pups!
[17:36] <llutz> no pets!
[17:36] <TheTom> what is ubuntu?
[17:36] <Hackboy125> could someone help me get my headphones working?
[17:36] <jcdutton> Hackboy125, post the output of "amixer"  to pastebin
[17:37] <leaf-sheep> !ubuntu | TheTom
[17:37] <jcdutton> Hackboy125, you could try over in #alsa
[17:37] <TheTom> who are you ubotto. tazte priv?
[17:37] <leaf-sheep> !bot | TheTom
[17:37] <TheTom> !infobot
[17:38] <leaf-sheep> TheTom: OIt
[17:38] <Hackboy125> http://pastebin.com/d2ccfb4f3
[17:38] <TheTom> !OIt
[17:38] <leaf-sheep> TheTom: Err, it's useful if we don't have to explain. We show you the door.  Only you can walk through it. :)
[17:38] <fatih> hey, i was using kubuntu 9.04 i uninstalled it and i am on gnome right now. but some kde apss like amarok looks bad. how can i change kde apps apperance on gnome? i read kcontrol is enough but i cant install it. any help?
[17:38] <TheTom> sorry
[17:38] <nikhil> failed to retrieve share list from server
[17:38] <nikhil> error
[17:39] <leaf-sheep> TheTom: Anything you would like to know? We can help you here.
[17:39] <Hackboy125> http://pastebin.com/d2ccfb4f3
[17:39] <TheTom> leaf-sheep: you seem so helpful. are you an infobot?
[17:39] <talntid> hi guys :)
[17:39] <leaf-sheep> TheTom: I am not. I'm a sheep.
[17:40] <talntid> anyone here want to help give me a hand installing firefox2?
[17:40] <leaf-sheep> TheTom: A sheep who like to eat fresh leaves.
[17:40] <TheTom> leaf-sheep: who are you following?
[17:40] <TheTom> leaf-sheep: i like fresh leaves too
[17:40] <talntid> i'm not a newbie, but seems like firefox2 is kindof hard to get installed on newer ubuntu :)
[17:40] <leaf-sheep> talntid: Are you using Karmic?
[17:41] <talntid> no idea what that is, so no
[17:41] <jcdutton> Hackboy125, nothing wrong with that sound config. Check you have the headphones plugged into the correct socket.
[17:41] <talntid> ah, that's newest ubuntu
[17:41] <leaf-sheep> talntid: Run "lsb_release -a" in the terminal.
[17:41] <jerkman> hey guys, im trying to vnc into a special linux bo, but the vnc display is diagonally skewed
[17:41] <talntid> it's intrepid
[17:41] <leaf-sheep> talntid: It is in BETA right now and will be rolling out at end of this month.
[17:42] <talntid> i'm on intrepid :)
[17:42] <leaf-sheep> talntid: "sudo aptitude install firefox" does not do it?
[17:42] <talntid> nope. it does firefox 3
[17:42] <talntid> i need firefox 3, and apt-cache search firefox, does not give any firefox 2 packages
[17:43] <talntid> i specifically need firefox 2, because it works with ltsp, whereas firefox3 is bugged for that.
[17:43] <leaf-sheep> !pin | talntid
[17:43] <raeldenk> can you help me fixing cairo-dock ? when i choose the openGL mode there's no transparency !
[17:43] <leaf-sheep> talntid: You can use pinning to prevent application from upgrading.
[17:43] <talntid> right
[17:44] <talntid> but firefox-2 is NOT in the package list
[17:44] <jerkman> http://picpaste.com/crazyvnc.png please take a look and see if you have seen this kinda problem before
[17:44] <Hackboy125> no one in alsa is responding so can someone here help me with my headphone problem the output of my amixer is http://pastebin.com/d2ccfb4f3
[17:44] <huston> where do i report this? I Downloaded the 64 bit version of the 9.10 beta and just for kicks i activated the wubi installer. as soon as the wubi installer was activated Norton Anti-Virus reported a Virus was discovered on my system, about 30 seconds later it reported the virus was now quarantined. Obviously the 64 bit ISO has aVirus in it considering i was not connected to the internet when this occured.
[17:44] <jcdutton> jerkman, nothing wrong with that, get your eyes testes ;-)
[17:44] <jerkman> lol
[17:45] <jerkman> jcdutton: any idea
[17:45] <nikhil> thanks all, will come back as my problem is not yet solved.
[17:45] <jcdutton> jerkman, looks like a bug to me.
[17:45] <Hackboy125> no one in alsa is responding so can someone here help me with my headphone problem the output of my amixer is http://pastebin.com/d2ccfb4f3
[17:45] <jcdutton> jerkman, off by one error somewhere
[17:45] <grturner> huston, for help with 9.10 #ubuntu+1
[17:45] <huston> so does anyone know where i should report it?
[17:45] <wasabi_> archives slow?
[17:46] <jerkman> jcdutton: i can vnc into other machines
[17:46] <leaf-sheep> !slow | wasabi_
[17:46] <Hackboy125> no one in alsa is responding so can someone here help me with my headphone problem the output of my amixer is http://pastebin.com/d2ccfb4f3
[17:46] <wasabi_> Ahh.
[17:46] <jerkman> jcdutton: its just this one 'special' box... its an xbox
[17:46] <nikhil> one more thing! installed secpanel, from where do i run it?
[17:46] <jcdutton> jerkman, why not do rdp to it?
[17:47] <raeldenk>  can you help me fixing cairo-dock ? when i choose the openGL mode there's no transparency ! please
[17:47] <Hackboy125> no one in alsa is responding so can someone here help me with my headphone problem the output of my amixer is http://pastebin.com/d2ccfb4f3
[17:47] <jerkman> jcdutton: what is the rdp server called?
[17:47] <leaf-sheep> talntid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1141614
[17:47] <jcdutton> jerkman, it might already have one. just try gnome-rdp to it
[17:47] <jerkman> ah, no gnome
[17:48] <nikhil> i cannot see secpanel in the menus!
[17:48] <wasabi_> So latest karmic stuff busted bootup a bit. fsck seems to fail because it runs after the disks are mounted.
[17:49] <wasabi_> ... guess it's running twice.
[17:49] <wasabi_> So, I get dropped to recovery console, even though GDM is started. Which is funny.
[17:49] <wasabi_> all the new upstart stuff. yay
[17:49] <r3za> hey guys , how can i connect my connection in  dsl connection ( Network manager ) with command ?
[17:50] <Hackboy125> no one in alsa is responding so can someone here help me with my headphone problem the output of my amixer is http://pastebin.com/d2ccfb4f3
[17:50] <jerkman> jcdutton: no gnome,
[17:50] <bobbob1016> Are the update servers going slow for anyone else?
[17:50] <jcdutton> jerkman, what do you mean?
[17:51] <jcdutton> bobbob1016, yes
[17:51] <jerkman> jcdutton: jcd, it doesnt run gnome
[17:51] <Pici> !slow | bobbob1016
[17:51] <grturner> bobbob1016, the servers are under heavy loads due to the 9.10 beta release
[17:51] <jcdutton> jerkman, run gnome-rdp on a linux box and try to connect to the xbox
[17:51] <pulseezar> is there a way to turn of the default keyring password thing and make ubuntu remember my internet password so i don't have to enter it every time i boot?
[17:51] <pulseezar> off*
[17:51] <jerkman> ah, k
[17:51] <Hackboy125> no one in alsa is responding so can someone here help me with my headphone problem the output of my amixer is http://pastebin.com/d2ccfb4f3
[17:52] <Dream-Ubu> yo :)
[17:52] <grturner> pulseezar, can you not check the box saying remember password?
[17:52] <bobbob1016> Ah, I figured it was some release, but I figured the beta would be on different servers.  Thanks
[17:52] <unimatrix> hot do i upgrade from ext3 to ext4 ??
[17:52] <unimatrix> how*
[17:52] <pulseezar> isn't one
[17:52] <pulseezar> i have to enter it, then the keyring thing comes up and I have to click deny
[17:52] <grturner> pulseezar, in NetworkManager?
[17:53] <grturner> oh, so you're having keyring issues, the password is stored in the keyring and you have to give gnome permission to use the keyring
[17:53] <r3za> hey guys , how can i connect my connection in  dsl connection ( Network manager ) with command ?
[17:53] <pulseezar> how do i do that?
[17:53] <Z41d> how do i create a launcher to launch a command like "cd home/foo/bar && sudo ./foo.sh" in a terminal ?
[17:53] <jerkman> jcdutton: unable to connect (ie no server)
[17:53] <grturner> pulseezar, i'm trying to get a better picture, is that the case?
[17:53] <pulseezar> i don't really see the point in the keyring thing
[17:54] <wasabi_> I don't mind the keyrings. What I dislike is that it's encrypted in depdently from the user's other files.
[17:54] <pulseezar> where is network manager?
[17:54] <wasabi_> One more layer of confusion for users.
[17:54] <ird> Does anyone know why Grub won't load while a USB hdd is connected?
[17:54] <pulseezar> network connections?
[17:55] <grturner> pulseezar, NetworkManager is the tool that gnome uses to connect to networks, it's shown in the toolbar
[17:56] <Mark76_> How do I turn my fan off?
[17:56] <Mark76_> ACPI: Unable to turn cooling device [ffff880037036140] 'off'
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> ird ive had some odd machines with that issue... seems to depend on the bios/machine/flash drive...  sort of annoyinmg
[17:56] <ird> Dr_Willis, So basically I'm sol? I'm trying to boot a live CD from the drive but I can't get past this point.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> ird:  try disabling the bootable flag on the usb hd if its there.. or unplug the usb hd?
[17:57] <pulseezar> sorry, i'm not sure what you want me to do
[17:57] <pulseezar> i can't see a remember password box anywhere
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> ird:  or perhaps specifically tell the thing to boot from the cd
[17:57] <ird> Dr_Willis, How can I boot from it if it's unplugged?
[17:58] <ird> Dr_Willis, I'm trying to boot a live CD from a USB drive (using unetboot)
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> irc you said you were tryuing to boot from cd.. unless i got confused...
[17:58] <Z41d> anyone please ?
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> ird:  unetbootin dosent use grub last i looked it uses syslinux
[17:59] <Hackboy125> no one in alsa is responding so can someone here help me with my headphone problem the output of my amixer is http://pastebin.com/d2ccfb4f3
[17:59] <grturner> pulseezar, this may help you http://www.stchman.com/keyring_password.html
[17:59] <ird> Dr_Willis, The boot loader with unetboot just gives me a flashing cursor. So I was trying to use grub instead.
[17:59] <huston> does grub support Microsoft Win dows hibernate mode?
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> ird: this is a usb hard drive? or a usb flash drive?
[17:59] <Mark76> Am I the only one who's having that cooling device problem, btw?
[17:59] <Z41d> how do i create a launcher to launch a command like "cd home/foo/bar && sudo ./foo.sh" in a terminal ?
[17:59] <bobbob1016> Z41d, It helps to just re-ask, so we don't have to scroll up.  But !patience is a virtue.
[17:59] <ird> Dr_Willis,  It's a 1tb external hard drive.
[18:00] <Hackboy125> no one in alsa is responding so can someone here help me with my headphone problem the output of my amixer is http://pastebin.com/d2ccfb4f3
[18:00] <barni> witam
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> ird:  Ive never used unetbootin to boot/install to an actual hard drive.. normally i do it to a flash drive.
[18:00] <bobbob1016> !patience | Hackboy125
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> ird:  a unetbootin 'install' is not a regular tyoe install.  I would suggest using unetbootin to make a bootable flash drive.. then boot the flash drive and use THAT to install to the hard drive..
[18:01] <michael__> Rio  !
[18:01] <michael__> Rio!
[18:01] <ird> Dr_Willis,  okay.. thanks.
[18:01] <michael__> Rio !!
[18:01] <michael__> 2016 !!!
[18:01] <Mark76> Hurrah!
[18:01] <michael__> Sou brasileiro não desisto nunca
[18:01] <michael__>   kk
[18:01] <Mark76> ?
[18:01] <michael__> kk
[18:02] <Mark76> So why is my fan going crazy? :-)
[18:02] <dsdeiz> hi! how do i go to another directory with mpd? :-/
[18:02] <vili_> romania?
[18:03] <Mark76> What frontend are you using, dsdeiz?
[18:04] <mrfelton> Hi. I'm trying to control a fedora machine with vnc. I need to use firefox on that machine, and it works fine - except I don't get any javascript!
[18:05] <mrfelton> any ideas why that might be?
[18:05] <spitzi1> Hi. Talking with you from an Ubuntu 9.04 live CD :-)
[18:05] <spitzi1> Can you hear me ? =-O
[18:06] <HNSZ> Bo oc not
[18:06] <Mark76> Hello.Is your fan going wild as well?
[18:06] <HNSZ> No
[18:06] <r3za> hey guys , how can i connect my connection in  dsl connection ( Network manager ) with command ?
[18:06] <HNSZ> That would be silly
[18:06] <Keiya> Argh! It seems like I can only keep internet connections open for a few seconds!
[18:06] <Keiya> Argh! It seems like I can only keep internet connections open for a few seconds, but /LAN/ is still up.
[18:06] <Keiya> It's like it's forgetting how to route out!?
[18:06] <monster__> hello
[18:06] <xinen007> dream
[18:07] <r3za> hey guys , how can i connect my connection in  dsl connection ( Network manager ) with command ?
[18:07] <HNSZ> I would like to change flag of primary uid in GPG but i get an error Please select exactly one user ID.
[18:07] <spitzi1> Ah, hello ?
[18:07] <monster__> I am curious, when i do LVM encrypt from ubuntu server install.(using entire disk) is swap encrypted aswell?
[18:07] <r3za> !dsl
[18:07] <r3za> !network manager
[18:07] <HNSZ> Connection my connection in a dsl connection. Aweseom.
[18:07] <r3za> !network manage
[18:08] <r3za> !dsl connection
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> !dsl
[18:09] <monster__> anyone know?
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> one wod factoids ony
[18:09] <monster__> is there a way i can check to see if swap is encrypred?
[18:09] <r3za> hey guys , how can i connect my connection in  dsl connection ( Network manager ) with command ?
[18:10] <HNSZ> r3za: Did you write  cron for thatr question?
[18:10] <aviator> #ubuntu-fr
[18:11] <r3za> HNSZ: my problem is how to connection a connection in network manager with command ?
[18:11] <monster__> =\
[18:11] <roman_> test
[18:11] <monster__> quiz
[18:11] <neryan> Hello, first time ever using Ubuntu and Linux for that matter, I
[18:11] <HNSZ> r3za: it's mindboggling what you are saying.
[18:12] <neryan> I'm trying to connect to quakenet, how exactly do I go about doing that?
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> neryan:  depends on your irc client.. xchat probverly has quakenet in its server listings
[18:12] <r3za> HNSZ: i cant understand English well so can u explain me easy ?
[18:13] <HNSZ> r3za: I have no clue mate.
[18:14] <HNSZ> neryan: I think /server irc.quakenet.org
[18:14] <amigrave> I upgraded to the developpement release using upgrade-manager -d and I have no more wifi. Intel ipw2200. Is this a know issue ?
[18:14] <Ktron> The ubuntu.com servers overloaded today?
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> Ktron:  yes
[18:14] <Pici> !slow | Ktron
[18:14] <dnielsen> Ktron, we welcome out 9.10 beta overlords
[18:15] <Ktron> Dr_Willis, Pici, thanks, just making sure
[18:15] <HNSZ> !slow | HNSZ
[18:16] <Ktron> dnielsen, I'm usually already running an alpha by now, but a3 or a4 they were still working on kinks with my intel card
[18:16] <r3za> HNSZ: cron like what ?
[18:16] <dnielsen> Ktron, I meant that the release of our new 9.10 beta overlord caused slowness
[18:17] <HNSZ> Well I for one welcome our new 9.10 beta overlords. *hides*
[18:18]  * B3rz3rk3r hits the meme alert button and runs for his protective gear
[18:18] <Keiya_> What does it mean when the capslock is blinking after a freeze? Is it just a notificationthing that I need to hard-reboot or?
[18:18] <michael__> woow  !  tem  algum ser do brasil aki ?!
[18:18] <mezquitale> anybody knows how to print a page without having the name of the file appear on the top of the page?
[18:19] <vaxetihirr> !rules
[18:20] <fission6> having trouble, just edited my ipsec.conf and moved it into /etc/ipsec.d/, restarted openswan hoping for it to recogonize new .conf and ask for VPN credentials and i got nothing
[18:25] <xtrack> hi anyone got a nice video for ettercap-ng?
[18:25] <ghatak> Hi, I got ubuntu running on my mackbook pro, however it has not detected the network card. lshw says "*-display UNCLAIMED" "description: VGA compatible controller" " product: G84 [GeForce 8600M GT]". What is going on ?
[18:26] <geekbuntu> anyone know how to map to a windows domain (AD) printer from ubuntu?
[18:27] <xtrack> geek man samba
[18:27] <Gnea> geekbuntu: yes.
[18:29] <snek> hmm installed karmic but getting a grub error 15, even before the menu loads, anybody have any tips?
[18:29] <Pici> snek : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> snek:  check the #ubuntu+1 an the forums.
[18:29] <snek> k
[18:30] <luisa> Hi, I run Ubuntu from a USB drive (not flash). Can I put the GRUB on the internal drive, instead of the USB? *and* if I put it on the internal drive, and the USB isn't on the same USB port as before, will it still work?
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> luisa:  it will want to read files from /boot/ so if the usb is not there.. it may have big issues
[18:30] <Gnea> luisa: have you tried booting grub with and without the usb hdd attached to see if it finds it or not?
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> luisa:  easietst to just leave grub on the usb drive and boot the usb drive
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> luisa:  the drive that 'boots' is often found as hd0,0 by grub and how the bios handles it. so  with grub on a internal drive. you may need to chang the grub menu.lst to boot properly also
[18:32] <luisa> Dr_Willis, I see, I had it on the USB drive. It worked OK until I did a kernel update. Then when I try to boot from the USB drive, it says that no boot sector (I believe that's what it said, might have been "no boot disk")
[18:32] <crescendo> I have installed Jaunty to an encrypted partition (LUKS).  When booting, it allows me to enter the passphrase, but then drops me to (initramfs) with the following error:  ALERT! /dev/mapper/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!   -- what now?
[18:32] <fission6> if anyone has expereince with openswan on ubuntu please PM i am having some issues
[18:32] <geekbuntu> Gnea: will you show me how?
[18:32] <Gnea> geekbuntu: no, but I can point you in the right direction so you can figure it out.
[18:33] <geekbuntu> Gnea: ij 0 t
[18:33] <Gnea> geekbuntu: how are you interfacing with the AD? using samba or something else?
[18:33] <Gnea> geekbuntu: pardon?
[18:33] <geekbuntu> Gnea: using 3 pc's typing with left hand - that was meant to say ok - ty
[18:33] <Gnea> geekbuntu: lol
[18:34] <geekbuntu> Gnea: actually, i do not know how i'm interfacing yet... i have a new pc setup at my desk
[18:34] <geekbuntu> Gnea: i suspect it will be via lan
[18:34] <mreinsch> on karmic: is pulseaudio supposed to work? $ "pactl list" for instance returns "Connection failure: Connection refused"
[18:34] <Gnea> geekbuntu: okay, well first of all, you need to get ubuntu to join to the AD domain
[18:34] <geekbuntu> Gnea: do not know protocol
[18:34] <Gnea> geekbuntu: then, the devices on the AD will become available
[18:34] <geekbuntu> Gnea: how do i get ubuntu to joint he domain?
[18:35] <geekbuntu> join*
[18:35] <geekbuntu> no drugs here
[18:35] <Gnea> geekbuntu: there are 2 ways to go about it: the easy way, and the semi-easy way
[18:35] <geekbuntu> i'll take 1 of either
[18:35] <geekbuntu> or both
[18:35] <Gnea> !AD | geekbuntu (first of all, read this)
[18:35] <grzegorz> siema
[18:35] <grzegorz> co tam?
[18:36] <grzegorz> nie uciekajcie
[18:36] <Gnea> !pl | grzegorz
[18:36] <geekbuntu> Gnea: ty
[18:37] <Gnea> geekbuntu: the method described on that site will work, for sure, if all of the steps are performed correctly. But, it can be a bit of a pain as well.
[18:37] <geekbuntu> Gnea: it wouldn't be windows if it didn't involve some pain
[18:37] <liff> is it possible to build a karmic installation cd with i915.modeset=0?
[18:38] <Gnea> geekbuntu: true. :)
[18:38] <crescendo> I have installed Jaunty to an encrypted partition (LUKS).  When booting, it allows me to enter the passphrase, but then drops me to (initramfs) with the following error:  ALERT! /dev/mapper/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!   -- what now?
[18:38] <Gnea> geekbuntu: the other choice is a piece of software called likewise
[18:39] <Gnea> geekbuntu: can't remember if it's default in the jaunty repositories or not: apt-cache search likewise   will tell you
[18:39] <geekbuntu> Gnea: is likewise the painless route?
[18:39] <ideamonk> hey guys is it usual for shift+space to not produce a space character ??
[18:39] <Gnea> geekbuntu: it's more suited for a desktop
[18:40] <Gnea> geekbuntu: the other method that I pointed out above is if you wanted to have a more permanent, turn-on-and-be-on all the time kind of thing
[18:40] <iceroot> ideamonk: no
[18:40] <geekbuntu> Gnea: the likewise is sounding good... i only print 10 pages a year
[18:40] <geekbuntu> seriously
[18:40] <Gnea> nice
[18:40] <geekbuntu> Gnea: but when i need those 10 pages, something bad is happening
[18:41] <Gnea> geekbuntu: check 'em out, see what works best for you
[18:41] <geekbuntu> Gnea: thanks again
[18:41] <ideamonk> iceroot, does shift+space produce a space on ur ubuntu ?
[18:41] <Gnea> geekbuntu: cheers
[18:41] <iceroot> ideamonk: yes
[18:41] <Dr_Willis>       shift space - makes a space here...
[18:41] <Gnea> ideamonk: works fine here too
[18:41] <itrebal> Would it be "safe" to keep python back to 2.5? I'm having issues with python 2.6.
[18:41] <ideamonk> hmm something special with me
[18:42] <geekbuntu> Gnea: likewise/cheers
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> itrebal:  you can have 2.5 and 2.6 both installed at the same time. I had todo that for some pyton-widgits
[18:42] <Gnea> geekbuntu: lol
[18:42] <itrebal> Dr_Willis: I've tried that, but the underlying issue is with python's urllib, which is seeming to cause issues. Some servers are  returning error 400 and 406
[18:43] <itrebal> s/urllib/urllib2/
[18:43] <ideamonk> iceroot, thanks
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> itrebal:  i just used it with some widgit-desktop stuff.. thats about all i did.
[18:43] <itrebal> Hrm, ok, thanks Dr_Willis
[18:43] <chrgtr> hi, i have just installed ubuntu.. yesterday when i booted up it a partition needed checking - and i got lots of errors, i ran fsck |yes and rebooted, everything seems to be working now...?
[18:44] <Brian> hey i was in the middle of a update and my laptop ran out of batt  so i recharged my laptop and did the update again and i get the partial update error thing is there anyway to fix this
[18:44] <itrebal> chrgtr: That's great to hear
[18:44] <maco> Brian: sudo apt-get install -f
[18:44] <crescendo> o/ cognitiaclaeves
[18:44] <chrgtr> ... I am scared of fscking the rest of my partition ...
[18:44] <maco> Brian: try that? if not, try "sudo dpkg-configure -a" i think
[18:45] <chrgtr> I was pretty sure my drive was dead :o
[18:45] <crescendo> I have installed Jaunty to an encrypted partition (LUKS).  When booting, it allows me to enter the passphrase, but then drops me to (initramfs) with the following error:  ALERT! /dev/mapper/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!   -- what now?
[18:45] <cognitiaclaeves> o/ crescendo
[18:45] <Brian> what will dkpg configure -a dp
[18:45] <Brian> do
[18:45] <Petein> hi.i was wondering whether ubuntu has a power manager which lets you maintain your pc for better performance or for longer battery life(by making your machine a bit slower). is that safe??
[18:45] <crescendo> hehe, obviously I've moved on a bit since yesterday
[18:45] <primary> How do I start the default ftp client that is installed with Ubuntu?
[18:45] <martianlobster> I am getting a really slow data transfer rate when i update from  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com. Is there a faster mirror I could use ?  If so how do I tell my OS, that I want to use a mirror?
[18:45] <mezquitale> this is a joke!  Everytime I print a file the file name appears on top!  Ubuntu is now useless, I can't print a resume, legal paper, nothing that I intend to use in a professional setting!!
[18:45] <crescendo> Or, other day, rather. The install too over a full day again. :(
[18:46] <primary> Any suggestions for a good FTP client?
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> primary:  the gnome file manager can work as a ftp client.
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> !ftp
[18:46] <cognitiaclaeves> I need an app that I can use to manage mail by looking at only mail headers.  Thunderbird won't work because the messages aren't RFC-822 compliant.
[18:46] <chrgtr> mezquitale: what are you printing it with...
[18:46] <primary> Dr_Willis: how do I use it?
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> Provito:   like the bot said.. Places -> connect to server
[18:46] <maco> Brian: finish configuring any packages that apt finished downloading but didnt get to
[18:47] <mezquitale> chrgtr, i am using an hp laserjet 2100 and everytime I print I see the file name on top, I tried it with text editor and ABI word
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> oops that was for primary  :) im getting up past my bedtime
[18:48] <primary> What is a good feature rich FTP clinent?
[18:48] <sidney> why does update offer all of these kde updates on a gnome desktop
[18:48] <mezquitale> primary, one that uses SSH
[18:48] <mezquitale> primary, i am just joking
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> primary:  most  file managers have some ftp features. I use 'mc' for a ftp client  for a long tmime
[18:49] <chrgtr> mezquitale: It might be a setting in abi word and text editor..
[18:49] <mezquitale> primary, I would use scp over ssh
[18:49]  * Dr_Willis agrees - dont use ftp if you can use ssh
[18:49] <chrgtr> mezquitale: Have you tried printing a pdf
[18:49] <primary> Dr_Willis: what is ssh?
[18:49] <chrgtr> mezquitale: or saving a file as a pdf
[18:50] <crescendo> cognitiaclaeves, where are those mail messages located currently?  file or on a server?
[18:50] <mezquitale> chrgtr, thanks for the tip but it should work with any application, i'll try installing openoffice which I didnt want to do but now I will be forced to, i will have to use redmond for the moment being
[18:50] <cognitiaclaeves> On an exchange server.
[18:50] <chrgtr> mezquitale: i still dont know if it will work yet though?
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | primary
[18:50] <crescendo> is IMAP enabled?
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> primary:  a tool/system that makes ftp rather outdated...
[18:51] <cognitiaclaeves> crescendo: Yes.
[18:51] <xtrack> bumabahang horny na puke yan masarap
[18:51] <LogicFan> !ipod
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> primary:  definatly somthing you should learn about if doing file transfers over a network
[18:51] <chrgtr> mezquitale: save it as a pdf and check if it has the file name on top
[18:51] <crescendo> cognitiaclaeves, you should be able to sync up Gmail (http://mail.google.com) with the exchange server and it /should/ work
[18:51] <primary> Dr_Willis: thanks
[18:52] <chrgtr> mezquitale: its probably just a small setting somewhere no big deal
[18:52] <cognitiaclaeves> crescendo: Um... I think that there is a significant security implication with that solution.
[18:52] <mezquitale> chrgtr, i am not attempting to find a way to print it, i am attempting to find a way to get rid of a problem, this didnt happen before
[18:52] <unimatrix> how do i change the notify-osd display position?
[18:52] <Petein> hi.i was wondering whether ubuntu has a power manager which lets you maintain your pc for better performance or for longer battery life(by making your machine a bit slower). is that safe??
[18:52] <chrgtr> mezquitale: yeah..
[18:52] <crescendo> cognitiaclaeves, potentially - but if IMAP is enabled, that security implication is already "open"
[18:52] <maco> unimatrix: you dont
[18:53] <mezquitale> chrgtr, it's not a big deal but now I cant print and I have to fax a document in the next 15 minutes, ubuntu is useless for practical business
[18:53] <maco> unimatrix: or: get the source code, modify it, recompile
[18:53] <crescendo> cognitiaclaeves, you should certainly enable HTTPS-only for your client
[18:53] <unimatrix> maco: oh hell...
[18:53] <cognitiaclaeves> crescendo: Not so much as it would by syncing to a public email server.
[18:53] <dragon> There's a package called "unattended-upgrades", which I couldn't find in any documentation. Is there a list of such packages that affect system settings directly?
[18:53] <xiong> Petein, yes. And yes, it's safe.
[18:53] <Petein> xiong: how?
[18:53] <chrgtr> mezquitale: its not ubuntu, its probably just abi word...
[18:53] <Petein> xiong: where can i setup it for best battery life?
[18:53] <xiong> Petein, if you're talking about battery power then I assume you have Ubuntu installed on a laptop. Correct?
[18:54] <chrgtr> mezquitale: is there a page setup somewhere
[18:54] <Petein> xiong: yes its on a laptop
[18:54] <chrgtr> mezquitale: I dont actualy have abiword so im in the dark
[18:54] <xiong> Petein, then look in your system tray. You should see a battery icon.
[18:54] <mezquitale> chrgtr, i tried with text editor, or maybe it's CUPS??? either way printing a letter should not be this complicated
[18:54] <chrgtr> no, its not cups.
[18:54] <Petein> xiong: yeah i know but nowhere it says about battery life
[18:55] <mezquitale> i'm almost done installing the drivers in redmond, thanks for the tip, ill try it when I have some time to play around
[18:55] <chrgtr> mezquitale: a text editor would print the filename by default
[18:55] <xiong> Petein, right-click the battery. You will open a window that allows some basic power management settings.
[18:55] <Ben64> 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.31)]
[18:55] <xiong> General advice: When clicking something doesn't do what you want or expect, try right-clicking.
[18:55] <crescendo> I have installed Jaunty to an encrypted partition (LUKS).  When booting, it allows me to enter the passphrase, but then drops me to (initramfs) with the following error:  ALERT! /dev/mapper/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!   -- what now?
[18:55] <Ben64> anyone else having problems getting stuff from apt?
[18:55] <lwells> Is there a good gui ssh app out there?
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> The Geany text editor has options in its print 'dialogs' under diocument setup to Print, or not Print 'page headers'
[18:56] <unimatrix> lwells: putty
[18:56] <crescendo> lwells, for what OS?
[18:56] <Tortel> Is anyone else having connection issues with some of the us.*.ubuntu.com repositories?
[18:56] <chrgtr> lwells: to use sftp?
[18:56] <lwells> well os x
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> lwells:  any terminal app can be used to do ssh.
[18:56] <darthanubis> Tortel, yes
[18:56] <Ben64> Tortel: thats what i just asked
[18:56] <lwells> gui tool, not in terminal
[18:56] <leaf-sheep> !slow | Tortel, Ben64
[18:57] <Ben64> oh snap
[18:57] <Ben64> well i want my mtools!
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> lwells:  ssh it a 'remote shell' unless you mean 'sftp' or somthing else..
[18:57] <chrgtr> lwells: in ubuntu you can use 'Connect to server' under places
[18:57] <leaf-sheep> Ben64: You could download a package manually from the website.
[18:57] <Petein> xiong: ok then. right click >preferences. then?
[18:57] <chowder> when is the next Long Term Service release?
[18:57] <lwells> Dr_Willis: I want to use ssh, but want a gui client
[18:57] <Ben64> chowder: 10.04
[18:58] <zenlunatic> is there a social channel for ubuntu?
[18:58] <xiong> Petein, another thing you might want to do is install a CPU monitor into a panel. Right-click in the panel, choose add, choose CPU Scaling. You'll find that CPU frequency has a large effect on battery life. The other major factors are drive use and backlight.
[18:58] <chowder> Ben64: thanks
[18:58] <Ben64> leaf-sheep: will it make apt angry? i don't like it when it's angry
[18:58] <leaf-sheep> !ot | zenlunatic
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> lwells:   a gui client to do what exactly? You type in  shell commands once you make a 'ssh' connection.. so   im not sure what you are really wanting.
[18:58] <darthanubis> lwells, search synaptic?
[18:58] <xiong> Petein, you see what you get under Preferences?
[18:58] <xiong> Petein, I don't know if that's what you expected but that's power management.
[18:58] <zenlunatic> leaf-sheep: thanks
[18:58] <LogicFan> hrm, how do i get dpkg to uninstall a pkg i just installed when it tells me its not installed at all?  e.g. dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove ..... the package is not installed
[18:58] <Tortel> aah, that would do it. didnt think about that... I guess ill try my updates tomorrow. ty leaf-sheep
[18:59] <leaf-sheep> zenlunatic, Tortel: Welcome.
[18:59] <swimone> ciao
[18:59] <lwells> Dr_Willis: I want to be able to drag files over, not just type the file names
[18:59] <Petein> xiong: i did that with the cpu. i hope it will be ok
[18:59] <coz_> LogicFan,  did you install this pacakge manually?
[18:59] <LogicFan> coz_, yep
[18:59] <chrgtr> lwells: are you using ubuntu/
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> lwells:  then you want a 'sftp' client. Not a 'ssh' client
[18:59] <chrgtr> ?
[18:59] <jpknowmad> im pretty new to ubuntu and linux, does anyone have any experience with a 2.5" SSD for a laptop? looking to get one, wondering if it caused any problems or worked great. Thanks
[18:59] <Petein> xiong: i put it to power save
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> lwells:  and most file managers can do sftp.
[18:59] <coz_> LogicFan,  ok so you what had a deb package or a source pacakge you compiled?
[18:59] <lizzzy> Hi, so sudo kill 3245 (which is the pid of apt-get)  doesn't kill the apt process. Any other way?
[18:59] <lwells> Dr_Willis: yes i know that
[19:00] <LogicFan> coz_, e.g. dpkg -i filename.deb
[19:00] <Ben64> jpknowmad: as long as it fits into the laptop fine, it should behave just like a normal Hard Drive, but way way faster
[19:00] <chrgtr> lizzzy: killall apt-get
[19:00] <leaf-sheep> jpknowmad: Not enough details. It's a hard drive.  Also, lot of netbooks, computers, laptops, servers.  They all worked great for most cases.
[19:00] <chrgtr> lizzzy: sudo killall apt-get
[19:00] <coz_> LogicFan,  ok  what is the pacakge name  exactly?
[19:00] <xiong> Petein, I don't see the risk factor. Of all the things you can do to save power, the riskiest are pretty much unavoidable: Suspend, Hibernate, or Shut Down.
[19:00] <lizzzy> chrgtr: thanks. Will try it out.
[19:00] <lwells> Dr_Willis: I want to be able to transfer files for web dev work
[19:00] <LogicFan> coz_, floola_4.9-1~getdeb1_amd64.deb
[19:00] <chrgtr> lizzzy:that is the same as killing the pid
[19:00] <Petein> xiong: so i put the cpu frequency to the lowest it had = 1.2 GHz , can i do smth else?
[19:01] <coz_> LogicFan, ok if this is gnome   go to system/administration/synaptic pacakge manager
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> lwells:  i belive the gnome   connext --> to server. has a web dav option.. or it can connect via ssh/sftp and put an icon on your desktop
[19:01] <chrgtr> lizzzy: if it doesn't work you can send it a different kill signal
[19:01] <coz_> LogicFan,  hit the "Search" button and type in  floola
[19:01] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[19:01] <xiong> It's difficult for me to see how dimming your backlight is going to affect running processes. Slowing down the CPU slows everything but is highly unlikely to cause any sort of system instability.
[19:01] <LogicFan> coz_, yeah i tried that
[19:01] <Ben64> Fetched 214kB in 5min55s (601B/s)
[19:01] <LogicFan> doesn't show up as being installed
[19:01] <leaf-sheep> lwells: Use Filezilla.  Even Nautilus have the support too (Places --> Connect To A Server), SSHFS, Samba, etc.
[19:01] <jpknowmad> leaf-sheep, I have an Acer Aspire 4730Z, I wanted to get the crucial 256gb SSD and 4gb ram set, just didnt know if it would have any compatibility issues
[19:01] <Ben64> :D it finally worked
[19:01] <mingw> Hello.  Is anyone else experiencing problems the the repositories.  I tried to do a apt-get update and it seems to be taking forever.
[19:01] <coz_> LogicFan,  mm    so you sudo dpkg -i  nameof package right?
[19:01] <kpkeerthi> I'm unable to access firefox add page (https://addons.mozilla.org/)? Is it only me?
[19:02] <Ben64> mingw: i just got 601B/s, be patient i guess...
[19:02] <lwells> leaf-sheep: I want to be able to do it remotely from a Mac to my Ubuntu box
[19:02] <coz_> LogicFan,  were there any errors?
[19:02] <guntbert> !slow | mingw
[19:02] <LogicFan> mingw, yes, i had some lagging issues earlier.  hanging on archive.ubuntu.com but seems to be better/faster now
[19:02] <HazeFaze> at kpkeerthi no problem over here..
[19:02] <coz_> LogicFan,  do you have link for this pacakge?
[19:02] <LogicFan> coz_, no errors.  just errors when running the app, so I want to uninstall
[19:02] <leaf-sheep> jpknowmad: http://ubuntuliving.blogspot.com/2009/01/acer-aspire-4730z.html
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> servers are a tad slow for me.. but not too bad now. compared to 4 hrs earlier
[19:02] <LogicFan> coz_, sec
[19:02] <lizzzy> kpkeerthi: downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[19:02] <jpknowmad> thanks leaf sheep
[19:02] <xiong> kpkeerthi, sorry, it's just you.
[19:02] <LogicFan> coz_, http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?search_distro_id=12&keywords=floola
[19:03] <kpkeerthi> oh shoot!
[19:03] <mingw> Thanks guys.  I was not thinking about that... hehe I even updated to the beta myself.  Guess I'll have to try tomorrow.
[19:03] <coz_> LogicFan,   ok hold on
[19:03] <LogicFan> coz_, i think it may be because i'm on jaunty and that deb is for intrepid?
[19:03] <leaf-sheep> lwells: If you want some kind of GUI client to access your computer, you want a decent SFTP client for Mac.  Ask in Apple IRC for a decent SFTP client -- They can recommend you a list.  Ubuntu box only need a openssh-server package and it's running.
[19:03] <Ben64> hey if i seed the beta of 9.10 on my 100mbit server, will it take up all my bw?
[19:03] <leaf-sheep> !apple | lwells
[19:03] <coz_> LogicFan,  ok that is for 64 bits and I am on 32 bits
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> Now i Jinxed it..  my download speeds just went  down down down..
[19:03] <kpkeerthi> what could be the reason? any one knows?
[19:03] <LogicFan> coz_, if so, why would it install properly, yet the system would not see it as installed
[19:04] <coz_> LogicFan,  and yes that could be an issue  did you look on that applications home page for an updated versioin?
[19:04] <lizzzy> Anyone know a fix for this error? Tried the solution given here (doesn't work!):  http://groups.google.com/group/opera.linux/browse_thread/thread/956e014f373b31fb
[19:04] <LogicFan> coz_, yes.  i did download the latest one, but i still couldn't get it to run.  hence, i tried to the getdeb vesion
[19:04] <coz_> LogicFan,  mm  ok let me see if I can do this on 32 bit
[19:05] <guntbert> Ben64: your torrent client should provide a way to limit bandwith up/down
[19:05] <snek> how does one boot into command-line only from the livecd?
[19:05] <leaf-sheep> !tty | snek
[19:05] <Ubuntu2> ntuUser
[19:05] <Ben64> guntbert: yeah i know, was just wondering how many people actually dl the torrent
[19:05] <LogicFan> !livecd
[19:05] <leaf-sheep> snek: Or you could open a Terminal.
[19:05] <crescendo> I have installed Jaunty to an encrypted partition (LUKS).  When booting, it allows me to enter the passphrase, but then drops me to (initramfs) with the following error:  ALERT! /dev/mapper/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!   -- what now?
[19:05] <leaf-sheep> Ben64: Not alot. I downloaded it awhile ago. Around 20 people.
[19:06] <snek> leaf-sheep, i need to boot to commandline with the livecd, i don't want to sit and wait for gnome to load every time
[19:06] <Ben64> hm.. it'd probably help ubuntu's server load if people did
[19:06] <leaf-sheep> crescendo: It does not exist. Paste your /etc/fstab + /etc/crypttab(sp).
[19:06] <crescendo> apt-p2p should be installed by default. :3
[19:06] <Jaska511> join
[19:06] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, I'm chrooted into the disk right now, gimme one sec...
[19:07] <kevindanko> Hey
[19:07] <lizzzy> This is the error I get when I try to update: "W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/Release.gpg  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.88.40 80] "
[19:07] <kevindanko> Anyone have any success getting Netflix Watch Now to work on Ubutnu?
[19:07] <leaf-sheep> snek: LiveCD is a LiveCD -- You probably want to remaster if you want a plain terminal -- Just for something to ssh in.  or load up the Gnome + install openssh-server then you can ssh in.
[19:07] <leaf-sheep> !remaster | snek
[19:07] <r3za> guys how can i make several connection in pppoeconf ?
[19:08] <lizzzy> My network seems to be working fine/
[19:08] <leaf-sheep> !slow | lizzzy
[19:08] <kevindanko> !netflix
[19:08] <coz_> LogicFan,  when you downloaded the current source for that   how did you try to start it?
[19:08] <kevindanko> Aww come on!
[19:08] <leaf-sheep> snek: Other thought, it'd be easier to create a persistant liveusb -- Just plug in.  Reboot.  Ssh in.
[19:09] <LogicFan> coz_, well, i just downloaded the binary.  started with ./Floola
[19:09] <lizzzy> leaf-sheep: Oh well. Will try later then. Thanks!
[19:09] <r3za> guys how can i make several connection in pppoeconf ?
[19:09] <LogicFan> coz_, i didn't build from any sources
[19:09] <snek> leaf-sheep, yeah i guess it's about time i made one of those
[19:09] <coz_> LogicFan,  and did you get any errors
[19:09] <LogicFan> coz_, yes, when running the application.  that is why i tried the getdeb version.  i thought it might work
[19:09] <coz_> LogicFan,  but do you recall if the error said it couldnt fint something?
[19:09] <leaf-sheep> !usb | snek
[19:10] <leaf-sheep> snek: I'd suggest you to go with minimal ISO -- That way, you get bare Ubuntu essential packages. :)
[19:10] <LogicFan> coz_, yeah on the app startup, the errors were that it couldn't find libgstreamer or libxine, but i have those installed.  then it segfaulted
[19:10] <coz_> LogicFan,  did it say something like   error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5:
[19:10] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, /etc/fstab definitely doesn't have it. Should it?
[19:10] <ghost> hey guys is the ubuntu server down?
[19:10] <bahadunn> is something going on with ubuntu repositories?
[19:10] <leaf-sheep> snek: And it's only 10-15MB.
[19:10] <leaf-sheep> !slow | ghos
[19:10] <leaf-sheep> ghost ^^
[19:10] <leaf-sheep> bahadunn: You too.
[19:10] <nikhil> unable to share internet connection between vista and ubuntu. have ubuntu desktop with internet connection but not able to share it over wireless with my vista laptop
[19:10] <crescendo> @ghost, @bahadunn: install apt-p2p, should help
[19:10] <ynk> hey guys. what's up! anyone got an idea why i'm unable to hear sound from flash video (ie Youtube) but when I play an mp3 file the sound is okay?
[19:10] <coz_> LogicFan,  ok  then not sure    but if you want more info on this maybe go to the  ##linux  channel for a broader base of information
[19:11] <bahadunn> leaf-sheep: okay fine
[19:11] <LogicFan> coz_, i saw those posts on the floola forums, but i didn't get that error
[19:11] <Guest71499> oh ic leaf
[19:11] <alabd> Good day everyone ,how to AC97 Modem Adapter that is installed in a CDC slot. lsusb and lspci will not be useful
[19:11] <Ubuntu2> ah no wonder my updates are going so slow.
[19:11] <Guest71499> how long has it been this slow?
[19:11] <LogicFan> coz_, i just want to uninstall it now :)
[19:11] <leaf-sheep> BETA came out October 1.
[19:11] <snek> leaf-sheep, thx for the links.. i'll try it out right now :)
[19:11] <kris_> !nfs
[19:11] <coz_> LogicFan,   yeah  I am not sure about that if it is not showing up  you may to do a search for all of the floola entries on the system and  remove them
[19:12] <stargate> Hello, I just installed nautilus-open-terminal and was interested in putting a button for it up where the back, forward, up, etc buttons are.  How would I go about doing that?
[19:12] <ynk> !sound plugins
[19:12] <LogicFan> coz_, yeah, that's my plan
[19:12] <leaf-sheep> crescendo: It should show the UUID list.
[19:12] <ynk> !plugins
[19:12] <LogicFan> coz_, i appreciate your time and thank you for helping out
[19:12] <ynk> -_-
[19:12] <nikhil> unable to share internet connection between vista and ubuntu. have ubuntu desktop with internet connection but not able to share it over wireless with my vista laptop
[19:12] <coz_> LogicFan,  no problem sorry I couldnt  be of more help
[19:12] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, only two lines:  aufs / aufs rw 0 0 \n tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[19:12] <bin1010> where is the "open with" listing being held, mine has like 6 copies of the same one?
[19:13] <ynk> does anyone know why my sound won't work when i'm trying to view a YouTube video, but works fine when playing an mp3 file?
[19:13] <seil> Hello, when I start ubuntu as guest(using vbox) it shows (Running in low graphics mode) however when I restart its works good. This happenes whenever I start ubuntu.
[19:13] <Guest71499> thank you crescendo and ubottu
[19:13] <bahadunn> ynk: I think the flash plugin gets screwed up somehow after a while
[19:13] <bahadunn> ynk: when you reboot does it start working again?
[19:13] <alabd> Good day everyone ,how to find name of AC97 Modem Adapter that is installed in a CDC slot. lsusb and lspci will not be useful
[19:13] <coz_> guys I am getting failed to fetch erros on  updating  ..some of the repositories are down???
[19:13] <crescendo> oh, lovely. I think I just f*ck'd my package manager.  aborted during an install. :/
[19:13] <ynk> let me try rebooting.
[19:13] <leaf-sheep> crescendo: What are you trying to do?  You're chroot'd in, you say? You installed it using alternative disc, right? Full-system encryption?
[19:13] <ynk> i'll be back and let you know.
[19:13] <ynk> bahadunn, thanks.
[19:14] <stargate> !slow | coz_
[19:14] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, more or less.  Full-disk LUKs, three partitions, /boot and / - /boot is ext2, / is ext4 encrypted
[19:14] <coz_> stargate,  ah ok that makes sense thanks
[19:14] <crescendo> other partition is irrelevant
[19:14] <stargate> coz_ ^_^
[19:14] <leaf-sheep> crescendo: Care to paste /etc/fstab + /etc/crypttab ?
[19:15] <abhishek__> no network manager in guest and other accounts except main account.how to solve
[19:15] <LogicFan> coz_, hah, no ubuntu is saying i dont have any files named floola or Floola on my filesystem ;P
[19:15] <linny> hello i wonder if anyone could point me in the right direction i have a laptop with an atheros wireless card wireless works out of the box with the live cd but after a hd install i cant get it to work any ideas ?
[19:15] <bin1010> is the "open with" data stored in gconf or somewhere else?
[19:15] <csguest> in 9.10, how can i get GDM to stop ignoring and start sourcing my ~/.xinitrc file?
[19:15] <coz_> LogicFan,  then aparenlty it did not install afterall
[19:15] <LogicFan> coz_, but i can still try starting the app with ./Floola
[19:15] <LogicFan> it starts and crashes
[19:16] <coz_> LogicFan,  oooooo
[19:16] <seil> Hello, whenever I start ubuntu  it shows (Ubuntu Running in low graphics mode).However, when I restart its works good. How can I fix this?
[19:16] <coz_> LogicFan,   how did you search for theses files?
[19:16] <nikhil> i can share only my public folder in vista laptop with my ubuntu desktop. other windows drives are not able to mount in ubuntu. in vista i have set up file sharing. why is it not working?
[19:16] <thiebaude> !9.10 | csguest
[19:16] <erUSUL> csguest: ~/.xinitrc is only for startx. gdm looks in ~/.Xsession afaik
[19:16] <LogicFan> coz_, menu>places>search for files
[19:16] <coz_> LogicFan,  mm did you make sure you had it search on the file system or  /usr   ?
[19:17] <LogicFan> coz_, whole file system
[19:17] <godstar> coz_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690760
[19:17] <csguest> !9.10
[19:17] <LogicFan> coz_, now i'm going through the directions with the command line and they show up
[19:17] <coz_> LogicFan,  ok try  /usr   for that search
[19:17] <LogicFan> weird
[19:17] <csguest> thanks, ubottu and erUSUL
[19:17] <godstar> coz_: try that in terminal, at least the dpkg reconfig xorg
[19:17] <thiebaude> csguest, np
[19:17] <coz_> godstar,   I think you may have the wrong person guy :)
[19:17] <godstar> coz_: command*
[19:17] <Ben64> download to:    /home/ben64/ubuntu-9.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso \\\\ upload rate:    908.8 kB/s  :D
[19:18] <starcannon> anyone know what the cisco channel is called and no its not simply called "cisco")
[19:18] <godstar> coz_: my bad
[19:18] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, http://pastebin.ca/1589738 and http://pastebin.ca/1589739
[19:18] <coz_> godstar, :)
[19:18] <godstar> that was meant for seil
[19:18] <pshr_> !sound
[19:18] <coz_> LogicFan,  I have to break here...let me know later if you found those files
[19:18] <Ben64> starcannon: it's #cisco
[19:19] <starcannon> Ben64, thanks I'll try again, maybe I typo'd first time
[19:19] <sei> Hello, whenever I start ubuntu  it shows (Ubuntu Running in low graphics mode). However, when I restart its works good. How can I fix this?
[19:19] <maginot> hi. If I install ubuntu 9.10 beta it will be easy to update to release version ?
[19:19] <pshr_> !sound
[19:19] <starcannon> Ben64, *thanks*, I did typo. /sigh, i'ma-idiot sometimes
[19:19] <leaf-sheep> crescendo: Reasonable Problem --> No UUID
[19:20] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, which file, crypt?
[19:20] <leaf-sheep> crescendo: It's missing an UUID -- Add that to fstab. :o
[19:20] <guntbert> !9.10 | maginot
[19:20] <leaf-sheep> crescendo: In /etc/fstab
[19:20] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, is there any way to mount by label instead?
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> You can edit fstab to mount by LABEL='whatever'   :)
[19:20] <Ridders> how do i change the screen rez for ubuntu in virtual box?
[19:21] <leaf-sheep> !fstab | crescendo
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> Ridders:  install the virtualbox guest edditions and it will let you pick diffrent res's
[19:21] <leaf-sheep> crescendo: You will need to read up on fstab to learn how to manage with them. ;o
[19:21] <Ridders> i did that
[19:21] <Ridders> where do I get to pick the different rez's?
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> under the system menu somewhere. same as on a real machine i recall
[19:21] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, will do.  I've added some scripts into initramfs too, as per a couple tutorials. Should I roll those back?
[19:21] <linny> hello i wonder if anyone could point me in the right direction i have a laptop with an atheros wireless card wireless works out of the box with the live cd but after a hd install i cant get it to work any ideas ?
[19:22] <leaf-sheep> linny: Check Hardware Drivers under Administration -- Everything enabled?
[19:22] <Gnutoo> hi, how does the application that request the password at logoff when someone is loged determine that someone is logged?
[19:23] <vixus> Hi, I'm having a really weird issue... I can connect to a certain wireless network on my normal kernel but not on my realtime kernel...
[19:23] <DeathFox> my logitech quickcam pro 9000 shows in lsusb but when i try to use a program to see my webcam it dont show
[19:23] <DeathFox> what is wrong
[19:23] <chrgtr> vixus:  have you dissabled anything?
[19:23] <Ben64> now i'm upping ubuntu 9.10 at 3MB/s
[19:24] <LogicFan> is there a way to backup your apt-get history or similar so if you move to a new hdd/ubuntu install you can get all the apps back you had before?
[19:24] <vixus> chrgtr, no because I can see other wireless networks in both kernels
[19:24] <chrgtr> vixus: maby wpa of wep
[19:24] <A_Kun96> Hey I need help with my ubuntu
[19:24] <leaf-sheep> !clone | LogicFan
[19:24] <A_Kun96> It seems that I liked it better when I had windows 7
[19:24] <LogicFan> leaf-sheep, cheers mate
[19:24] <vixus> chrgtr, no, wm-applet literally can't see or connect to my network, even when I put it in manually
[19:24] <vixus> chrgtr, but it's fine on the normal kernel
[19:24] <chrgtr> vixus: did you configure the kernel youself
[19:25] <DeathFox> anyone able to help?
[19:25] <Ridders> also what app can I download to test if my graphics drivers are working?
[19:25] <vixus> chrgtr, no.
[19:26] <Ali_nz> mornign all
[19:26] <lolrofllmao> Ridders: compiz --replace
[19:26] <chrgtr> vixus: did you get it using apt-get
[19:26] <vixus> chrgtr, yeah..
[19:26] <Ridders> lolrofllmao: what is compiz?
[19:26] <Ali_nz> anyone able to tell me why sudo rmdir --ignore rec* does not remove a bunch of recup_dir.6/7/8/ etc directories for me?
[19:26] <lolrofllmao> Ridders: compiz is a window decoration engine
[19:26] <Ridders> lolrofllmao: ok cheers
[19:27] <chrgtr> vixus: can you tell me what is in /usr/src/
[19:27] <lolrofllmao> u'll see 3d effects while pressing super+tab
[19:28] <vixus> chrgtr, not really, because i can't access my realtime kernel and use irc at the same time
[19:28] <Ali_nz> anyone got any really good themes/backgrounds?
[19:28] <vixus> chrgtr, what do you think the issue might be?
[19:28] <leaf-sheep> !themes | Ali_nz
[19:28] <leaf-sheep> Ali_nz: DeviantArts is one good example.
[19:29] <Ali_nz> leaf-sheep: ta
[19:29] <chrgtr> vixus: sounds like its not configured properly, might have something to do with modules
[19:29] <OerHeks> Ali_nz: i'm looking forward to the Ali_nz_theme
[19:29] <Ali_nz> anyone able to tell me why sudo rmdir --ignore rec* does not remove a bunch of recup_dir.6/7/8/ etc directories for me?
[19:29] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, will do.  I've added some scripts into initramfs too, as per a couple tutorials. Should I roll those back?
[19:29] <chrgtr> vixus: are you sure you cant multitask?
[19:29] <vixus> chrgtr, then how come it can (try to) connect to other wireless networks?
[19:29] <mazogs> hello ppl. I just wanted to know... is ntfs support on intrepid+ goog enough as to use it for a 16Gb pendrive? I find vfat too vulnerable and with ext3 i have problems with permissions from one machine to other and no windows access (not a big problem for mi anyway). thanks for your opinion
[19:29] <vixus> chrgtr, fraid so.. it's on the same machine
[19:29] <chrgtr> vixus: are you on a gui?
[19:30] <vixus> chrgtr, sure
[19:30] <vixus> chrgtr, i can try mounting the partition if necessary
[19:30] <chrgtr> vixus:  thats multitasking ...
[19:30] <Dominik1> are there any chances that ZFS will be encorporated in UBUNTU?
[19:30] <chrgtr> can you bring up term
[19:30] <vixus> chrgtr, done
[19:30] <chrgtr> Dominik1: btrfs will come sooner than zfs probably
[19:31] <leaf-sheep> crescendo: Making a USB keyscript or something? You can leave them alone. initramfs is a temporary filesystem. /etc/fstab read the direction for partitions and whatnot.
[19:31] <chrgtr> vixus: can you type 'ls /usr/src '
[19:31] <stefg> mazogs: the main problem is that ntfs is quite slow in Linux... it's a userpace filesystem, not in kernelspace
[19:31] <vixus> chrgtr, ok but i'm on my normal kernel right now.. not realtime
[19:31] <leaf-sheep> crescendo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initrd
[19:31] <Dominik1> chrgtr: possible timeline?
[19:31] <chrgtr> vixus: ok..
[19:32] <didiermah> bonjour
[19:32] <leaf-sheep> crescendo: This is a good explanation and helps you strengthening your linux knowledge. :)
[19:32] <vixus> chrgtr, linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic, linux-headers-2.6.28-11
[19:32] <chrgtr> Dominik1: you can do it now using fuse
[19:32] <didiermah> comment cv
[19:32] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, mainly adding /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/cryptoroot and one other
[19:32] <didiermah> les gars??
[19:32] <chrgtr> vixus: did you need to do anything special to setup your wireless card in the firt place
[19:32] <Dominik1> chrgtr: I mean native
[19:32] <vixus> chrgtr, nope
[19:33] <alabd> how to find AC97 Modem Adapter name that is installed in a CDC slot. lsusb and lspci will not be useful .
[19:33] <chrgtr> Dominik1: I heard the speeds were similar
[19:33] <vixus> chrgtr, it's working in the normal kernel... and in realtime it detects other wireless networks but not the one in my flat!
[19:33] <mazogs> stefg: ok. unless it's too slow, i don't really mind... is it slower than the bottleneck of usb? My main concern is about reliability
[19:33] <leaf-sheep> alabd: sudo lshw -c network -- Maybe?
[19:33] <didiermah> What is the code to pass a ubuntu in french
[19:33] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, I've also added a hook
[19:33] <chrgtr> vixus: then it might be some complex timing thing
[19:33] <Dominik1> chrgtr: mhh and the benifits of btrfs?
[19:33] <stefg> mazogs: ext3, ext3, ext3
[19:33] <leaf-sheep> alabd: If that's a network, I think.  Otherwise, you could output it to HTML and look through all hardwares
[19:34] <tread> Hi guys.  I'm having a problem with Totem: it crashes whenever I try to get it to play a certain type of .wav file.  My other Ubuntu box plays it fine in Totem.  I've tried a "complete removal" of Totem in Synaptic, and then reinstaling, but this doesn't fix it.  Please help!  (and don't just suggest switching to VLC please :p)
[19:34] <didiermah> repondez
[19:34] <chrgtr> vixus: it would be easier to diagnose if i could see your .config for your realtime kernel
[19:34] <leaf-sheep> didiermah: You want Ubuntu in French?
[19:34] <chrgtr> Dominik1: I can find you an article if you want
[19:34] <vixus> chrgtr, ok hold on
[19:34] <didiermah> yes
[19:34] <Dominik1> chrgtr: think I got one, comparing it to ZFS
[19:34] <leaf-sheep> !french | didiermah
[19:35] <chrgtr> Dominik1: btrfs is way better than zfs
[19:35] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, I am just going to remove the hook and the script, to be safe. the default Ubuntu install did not add them
[19:35] <didiermah> thanks
[19:35] <mazogs> stefg: ok. do you know how could i overcome the permissions problem? i've seen the umask=000 mount option but '
[19:35] <leaf-sheep> crescendo: That's fine as long as whatever floats your boat. ;o
[19:35] <chrgtr> Dominik1: http://lwn.net/Articles/342892/ , its long and detailed but it explains everything
[19:36] <mazogs> stefg: ...but i'm not always able to modify mount options
[19:36] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, well - it sounds like the /etc/fstab change will fix the problem, honestly
[19:36] <Dominik1> chrgtr: thanks : )
[19:36] <alabd> leaf-sheep: did not show
[19:36] <stefg> mazogs: i'd need to know about the real world problem to be able to comment on that
[19:36] <vixus> chrgtr, ok i mounted my realtime partition.. what do you need to see?
[19:36] <crescendo> ...running update-initramfs -u now...
[19:37] <crescendo> No errors, good sign. :]
[19:37] <stargate> "tmp/nautilus-open-terminal_0.9.orig.tar-3.gz could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences."  huh what?
[19:38] <chrgtr> vixus: huh? are you sure you are talking about realtime kernels
[19:38] <Dominik1> are there any desktops with ubuntu preinstalled, that can compete with low end dell pricing?
[19:38] <mazogs> stefg: it's a generic problem, uid and gid of files/folders has to be the same in all the machines i want to use the pendrive which is impossible for me.
[19:38] <leaf-sheep> alabd: Run "sudo lshw -html > ~/Desktop/Hardwares.html" and it'll generate hardware listings in HTML. Look through it and use Find function to find what you're looking for.
[19:38] <chrgtr> vixus: or are you use ing a seperate partition for it..
[19:39] <vixus> chrgtr, oh yeah sorry i'm dual-booting it
[19:39] <dragon> Is the package "unattended-upgrades" documented somewhere? If not, it's a bug.
[19:39] <chrgtr> vixus: you can usualy use a rtkernel on the same partition
[19:39] <leaf-sheep> Dominik1: System76 came to mind.
[19:39] <BenB> kann somebody please try to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/entertainer/+bug/440763 or tell me what I do wrong?
[19:39] <chrgtr> vixus: can you tell me whats in /usr/src
[19:40] <r3za> hi , i know the connect path is ( dsl connection into network connection ) : /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections , now how can i connection a connection with command in terminal ?
[19:40] <Dominik1> leaf-sheep any personal experience?
[19:40] <vixus> chrgtr, linux-rt-headers-2.6.28-3 linux-headers-2.6.28-3-rt
[19:40] <crescendo> leaf-sheep, nope. Boot just failed with the same error:  Alert! /dev/mapper/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[19:40] <BenB> this looks like a PPA key error to me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/entertainer/+bug/440763
[19:40] <chrgtr> vixus: ok, do you normaly go into a console when you boot up?
[19:40] <dragon> !info unattended-upgrades
[19:40] <leaf-sheep> Dominik1: No personal experiences.  Sorry!
[19:40] <vixus> chrgtr, no
[19:40] <alabd> leaf-sheep: it is not there
[19:41] <r3za> hi , i know the connect path is ( dsl connection into network connection ) : /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections , now how can i connection a connection with command in terminal ?
[19:41] <leaf-sheep> alabd: Is it plugged in?  Run "dmesg" in the terminal and then plug in.  You should get some new output scrolling.
[19:41] <stefg> mazogs: ah. ok... i understand. hmmm... so you can make the files world-writable with 0777 permissions, or if they are to be shared between all ubuntu/debian  boxen then make them belong to the 'disk' group and chmod them 9775
[19:41] <stefg> o775
[19:41] <chrgtr> vixus: ..., if you are using a gui then you are multitasking..., realtime kernel is just a schedular change right?
[19:41] <stefg> 0775 dmned
[19:41] <Dominik1> leaf-sheep: expensive though : (
[19:42] <r3za> hi , i know the connect path is ( dsl connection into network connection ) : /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections , now how can i connection a connection with command in terminal ?
[19:42] <alabd> leaf-sheep: it is laptop dialup modem how to plug in ?
[19:42] <vixus> chrgtr, yeah but i needed to install on a whole different partition due to nvidia issues
[19:42] <leaf-sheep> Dominik1: Ubuntu works great out-of-box for most of the systems.
[19:42] <mazogs> stefg: thanks a lot, great solution ;-)
[19:42] <nikitis>  Guys can someone help me figure out why cron isn't working?  I added a line in crontab -e "42 14  * * *  /usr/bin/ktorrent" and reloaded it, but it will not start it
[19:42] <chrgtr> vixus: hmm
[19:43] <nikitis> And it loads fine in terminal
[19:43] <leaf-sheep> !modem | alabd
[19:43] <chrgtr> vixus: so can you go on irc whil you are on your rt kern
[19:43] <vixus> chrgtr, this is the only wireless network it has issues with.. works fine with the one at home
[19:43] <Dominik1> leaf-sheep: well the idea is to avoid the Microass licensing fee, so im trying to beat dell prices by about 50 bucks, but that might just be impossible given the empire they have established
[19:43] <r3za> hi , i know the connect path is ( dsl connection into network connection ) : /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections , now how can i connection a connection with command in terminal ?
[19:43] <vixus> chrgtr, no because i have no internet on the rt kernel :p
[19:43] <leaf-sheep> Dominik1: :(
[19:43] <chrgtr> vixus: it will probably be easier to diagnose if you were in it :p
[19:44] <Dominik1> leaf-sheep ya :(
[19:44] <innomen> would anyone be willing to download the source of an ahk port to linux and hold my hand through compiling it? it has no readme
[19:44] <vixus> chrgtr, tell me about it.. i only have the one computer here though
[19:44] <Maleko> hey guys..could you please give me a command to prefix all lines in text file with a string?
[19:44] <leaf-sheep> nikitis: Add "env DISPLAY:0 /usr/bin/ktorrent" -- I think.  The problem is that you're trying to run GUI. :)
[19:44] <stefg> mazogs: but don't overestimate the reliability of (cheap) flash memory in general
[19:44] <BenB> can someone please verify that I do everything correctly? https://bugs.launchpad.net/entertainer/+bug/440763
[19:44] <chrgtr> vixus: hmm, it might be a module problem or something coincidental
[19:44] <ro986> anyone having problem with the update servers¡
[19:44] <innomen> http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46546
[19:44] <ro986> ?
[19:45] <stefg> mazogs: if you only need to read it's ok, but if you edit them often....
[19:45] <vixus> chrgtr, it's ok.. i'll just forget it for now..
[19:45] <alabd> how to find AC97 Modem Adapter name that is installed in a CDC slot. lsusb and lspci will not be useful .any opinion
[19:45] <mazogs> stefg: thanks for the advice. the main problem is to maintain a 16Gb fat fs consistent in a pendrive...
[19:45] <spikku> Hello, a bit new to Ubuntu. Weird thing happening, when I shell in with putty, my terminal colors are strange and different than I'm used to. How can I change these?
[19:46] <innomen> this app will allow me on the fly auto correct of spelling errors across applications.
[19:46] <chrgtr> vixus: or (unlikley) its a problem due to complex interactions withing your kernel..
[19:46] <stefg> mazogs: yeah... fat can be a PITA
[19:46] <nikitis> leaf-sheep: That didn't work
[19:46] <vixus> chrgtr, yeah that seems unlikely
[19:46] <leaf-sheep> nikitis: I'll try. It had to do something with env / DISPLAY:0 since it's a GUI. It's a GUI, right?
[19:47] <chrgtr> spikku: are you in ubuntu?
[19:47] <ro986> hi everyone
[19:47] <dragon> `powertop` enabled USB autosuspend, and now USB devices won't connect. What do I do?
[19:47] <chrgtr> dragon: have you tried replugging them in
[19:47] <spikku> chrgtr: What do you mean? Am I currently using Ubuntu?
[19:48] <dragon> chrgtr: yes, several times
[19:48] <nikitis> leaf-sheep: is it export DISPLAY=:0  ?
[19:48] <chrgtr> spikku: so you are trying to use putty inside of ubuntu?
[19:48] <chrgtr> dragon: well, a reboot will fix it
[19:48] <JNSamuel> can anyone help me with sound issues, alsa isn't working. I'm using 8.04 intrepid
[19:48] <JNSamuel> it recognizes my card, but nothing. OSS works.
[19:49] <chrgtr> dragon: if you cant reboot, there is a setting in /proc/sys i could figure out
[19:49] <JNSamuel> it just randomly stopped earlier on today, it was working fine :/
[19:49] <spikku> chrgtr: No I sometimes use putty from remote location
[19:49] <stefg> !intelhda | JNSamuel
[19:49] <vixus> JNSamuel, try killing pulseaudio
[19:49] <dragon> chrgtr: I wish I could reboot, but that's the last resort. That /proc/sys this would help.
[19:49] <starcannon> spikku check out this link, it tells a bit about how to change colors in PuTTy, and how to save Sessions, so you can get back to your new layouts.http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/61162-color-putty.html
[19:49] <leaf-sheep> nikitis: It could be. I know it have to do something with that -- but the exact command? I can't remember. :o
[19:49] <chrgtr> spikku: so from windows to ubuntu
[19:49] <roro986> hi everyone
[19:49] <roro986> anyone having problem with the update servers ?
[19:49] <spikku> chrgtr: yes
[19:50] <leaf-sheep> nikitis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185993
[19:50] <stefg> !slow | roro986
[19:50] <chrgtr> spikku: have you set custom colours or anything?
[19:50] <spikku> starcannon: Thanks! The issue is that I have set all my putty colors. They look great on my centos/RH machines, but Ubuntu has a different profile or something and I can't distinguish dirs from files
[19:50] <JNSamuel> vinux: that's what I used to do when it broke on me, but this time it doesn't work. it stays silent
[19:50] <chrgtr> spikku: oh
[19:50] <roro986> thanks for the fast reply
[19:51] <chrgtr> spikku: can you type alias
[19:51] <chrgtr> spikku: can you type 'alias ls'
[19:51] <absolutepressure> sorry, I forgot the exact channel name for the beginner part of this what is it?
[19:51] <spikku> chrgtr: ls='ls --color=always'
[19:51] <nikitis> leaf-sheep: ah, it's export DISPLAY=:0 && /usr/bin/ktorrent
[19:51] <spikku> I also tried auto
[19:51] <nikitis> leaf-sheep: thanks
[19:51] <roro986> bye everyone
[19:51] <spikku> still goofy dir colors in putty
[19:51] <chrgtr> spikku: so are you having problems with colous now
[19:51] <leaf-sheep> nikitis: Yay. :)
[19:52] <spikku> My in-OS terminal looks fine
[19:52] <spikku> it's only when I use putty
[19:52] <spikku> the dirs are almost white
[19:52] <spikku> so are files
[19:52] <FloodBot1> spikku: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:52] <Whitor_> What is the difference between tracert and traceroute ?
[19:52] <spikku> I don't know why the "profile" is different in Ubuntu than other Linux OS
[19:52] <rrichie> hi all
[19:52] <Whitor_> I'm hoping the answer will reveal why tracert requires su privs
[19:52] <dragon> chrgtr: I got as far as /proc/bus/usb/
[19:52] <rrichie> i have problem installing eclipse with karmic because gij-4.2 doesn't exists. Anyone has an idea ?
[19:53] <stefg> !karmic | rrichie
[19:53] <chrgtr> dragon: installing powertop...
[19:53] <harisund> hari
[19:53] <Yopu> anyone else's update manager dl'ing really slow today?
[19:53] <_ruben> !slow
[19:54] <DarsVaeda> hi i tried to update to grub 2 but it fails with "unrecognized service string" when i try to boot ubuntu, now there is a bug report about this and somebody wrote that editing list.conf would help
[19:54] <Yopu> thx <ubottu>
[19:54] <starcannon> Yopu yes mine is
[19:54] <DarsVaeda> but i do not find that file
[19:54] <dsdeiz> if only the 'more' command would also copy the colors 'ls' passed
[19:54] <Ktron> I've had xubuntu-9.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso downloaded for ~an hour, and already my ratio is at 2.99
[19:54] <stefg> !karmic | DarsVaeda
[19:54] <starcannon> Anyone here familiar with the Cisco PIX 501?
[19:55] <stefg> starcannon: this is #ubuntu, not ##cisco
[19:55] <losher> Whitor_: I thought tracert was the windows version, traceroute the unix version? Not sure about it tho'
[19:55] <DarsVaeda> karmic what... i m in 9.04
[19:55] <tkmr> Karmic Koala is 9.10
[19:55] <seidos> !ot | starcannon
[19:55] <DarsVaeda> yeah thats nice but i have 9.04
[19:55] <Ktron> 9.04 = Jaunty Jackalope, 9.10 = Karmic Koala
[19:56] <losher> DarsVaeda: please excuse the silly names...
[19:56] <tkmr> DarsVaeda: What was your question?
[19:56]  * Ktron is all about the silly names
[19:56] <starcannon> yeah yeah, how silly of me to ask about a piece of hardware on my ubuntu only network. this is why we can't have nice things
[19:56] <DarsVaeda> hi i tried to update to grub 2 but it fails with "unrecognized service string" when i try to boot ubuntu, now there is a bug report about this and somebody wrote that editing list.conf would help
[19:56] <stefg> DarsVaeda: ok, so why do feel you need to use grub2 then ?
[19:56] <starcannon> I'll go back to forums, its a little snarky in here
[19:56] <Trizicus> How do I force a fsck on restart?
[19:56] <dragon> chrgtr: there's a suggestion called "Suggestion: Enable USB autosuspend by pressing the U key or adding
[19:56] <dragon> usbcore.autosuspend=1 to the kernel command line in the grub config"
[19:56] <DarsVaeda> i d like to try it out
[19:56] <dragon> Hope I didn't select that
[19:57] <stefg> !pm | absolutepressure
[19:57] <stefg> absolutepressure: this is the right channel
[19:57] <tkmr> DarsVaeda: so try editing that conf file like whatever you had read said?
[19:57] <losher> Trizicus: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[19:57] <DarsVaeda> yeah but where is that list.conf xD
[19:58] <Whitor_> losher, nope, tracert is in linux too
[19:59] <tkmr> DarsVaeda: The help text didn't say? o.O
[19:59] <stefg> !find tracert
[19:59] <DarsVaeda> nope
[19:59]  * Keiya hrms
[19:59] <DarsVaeda> just said changed my list.conf from to
[19:59] <Keiya> I really can't figure out why networking is so problematic in ubuntu...
[19:59] <DarsVaeda> but not where this file is located
[19:59] <Trizicus> losher: the -F option on shutdown is it still present (I dont see it in manpages)
[19:59] <chrgtr> dragon: type `sudo 'for i in /sys/bus/usb/devices/%s/power/autosuspend; do echo 0 > $i; done''
[19:59] <DarsVaeda> i used find but says there is not such a file
[19:59] <Keiya> It can stay connected to the lan just fine, but it keeps screwing up staying connected to the internet...
[20:00] <losher> Whitor_: not according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traceroute
[20:00] <Kcsrnd> are the repository mirrors slow for anyone else?
[20:00] <Keiya> !slow
[20:00] <tkmr> Kcsrnd: yes
[20:00] <Kcsrnd> ugh
[20:00] <dragon> chrgtr: thanks
[20:00] <Whitor_> losher, just type it into a terminal window and see for yourself
[20:00] <Kcsrnd> bad time to set up a new system for someone
[20:01] <tkmr> kcsrnd: I managed to download the 9.10 beta from University of Utah's servers in about 5 minutes
[20:01] <losher> Trizicus: It's not in my man pages either (hardy, 8.04) so you can't rely on it anyway...
[20:01] <Trizicus> what do you mean you cant rely on it?
[20:01] <Kcsrnd> yeah i'm not even downloading karmic
[20:01] <tkmr> kcsrnd: updating a system?
[20:01] <Kcsrnd> trying to set up jaunty for a friend
[20:01] <Trizicus> kcsrnd: karmic is the only ubuntu version that works on my hw
[20:01] <Keiya> You know what's fun?
[20:01] <seidos> Kcsrnd: you could download it via torrent, see if it's faster
[20:01] <Kcsrnd> downloading a bunch of stuff he'll use
[20:01] <Keiya> Once /this/ storm calms down
[20:01] <dragon> chrgtr: they're all 0 already.
[20:01] <Ben64> he's not downloading an iso
[20:01] <Ben64> he wants updates
[20:02] <seidos> Ben64: ah
[20:02] <dragon> chrgtr: maybe it was another powertop setting
[20:02] <Keiya> Karmic'll come out for real.
[20:02] <chrgtr> ...
[20:02] <chrgtr> dragon: ...
[20:02] <Keiya> And it'll be just as bad
[20:02] <Ben64> i'm seeding the iso on torrent btw
[20:02] <tkmr> kcsrnd: Ah. Yeah you'll probalby either have to download it really slowly, or wait a few days.
[20:02] <trijntje> !paste
[20:02] <Ben64> upload rate:    3102.1 kB/s
[20:02] <Kcsrnd> i'll be all over karmic after the final release.. too much to do right now, can't test :(
[20:02] <k4ide> anyone having any trouble with ubuntu repositories?
[20:02] <chrgtr> dragon: then i have no clue
[20:02] <DarsVaeda> oh i guess i found a fix, seems you can use the internal grub edit
[20:02] <Ben64> k4ide: yes everyone
[20:02] <Ali_nz> when i try to conect to a windows vpn nothing happens
[20:02] <seidos> Ben64: rtorrent didn't compile for me, otherwise the server would be seeding
[20:02] <Trizicus> kcsrnd: I thought you meant it is as in it's bad (even after final)
[20:03] <Keiya> !slow
[20:03] <DarsVaeda> will try this, hopefully works ...
[20:03] <Ben64> seidos: i just use bittornado
[20:03] <losher> Whitor_: either it's been ported (it does happen) or it's been aliased because people got used to calling it one name or the other. Man tracert appears to bring up the same man page as man traceroute on my hardy system.
[20:03] <Trizicus> It's very stable for me as a matter of fact no problems w/ it
[20:03] <dragon> chrgtr: alright, thanks for trying.
[20:03] <Ali_nz> when i try to connect to a windows vpn nothing happsn
[20:03] <stargate> whitor_: tracert is a windows function where as traceroute is the unix function if memory serves me right
[20:03] <seidos> Ben64: gui?
[20:03] <Ben64> seidos: they do have gui, but i'm using cli
[20:04] <stefg> !info apt-p2p | everyone complaining about slow repos
[20:04] <seidos> Ben64: getting the 874kb download started on the server
[20:04] <Ali_nz> anyone have any ideas?
[20:05] <tkmr> DarsVaeda: try this http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-grub-2-on-ubuntu-9.04
[20:05] <seidos> this'll take awhile
[20:06] <Whitor_> stargate, losher, tracert requires sudo to run.... traceroute does not. apparently they are not the same, thought they do the same thing.
[20:06] <innomen> is there anyway to make pidgin beep to pc speaker instead of use a soundfile?
[20:06] <Whitor_> though*
[20:06] <seidos> that would be cool, torrent repositories :o
[20:06] <Whitor_> if tracert were aliased to traceroute... it would behave the same way, no ?
[20:07] <grturner> Whitor_, it should
[20:07] <stargate> whitor_: where are you seeing tracert?
[20:07] <grturner> stargate, he is talking about aliasing tracert to traceroute
[20:08] <stargate> grturner: ah, he wants to alias it?
[20:08] <grturner> would appear so
[20:08] <Whitor_> stargate, type it into a termina
[20:08] <Whitor_> l
[20:08] <losher> Whitor_: dunno what to tell you. On my system, via a convoluted set of links, they end up pointing to the same binary:  ls -l /usr/bin/tracert.db  shows lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2008-08-14 21:08 /usr/bin/tracert.db -> traceroute.db*
[20:09] <stargate> bah, my system must be so screwy, tracert wasn't working a min ago
[20:09] <Whitor_> losher, I doubt the .db is the binary for tracert
[20:09] <Trizicus> How do I list the loaded kernel modules (modprobe -l is a long list)?
[20:10] <crescendo> When running update-initramfs and using an /etc/crypttab file, I get the following error: cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to determine cipher modules to load for <my_device> -- what now?
[20:10] <Pici> Trizicus: lsmod
[20:10] <stefg> Trizicus: lsmod | less
[20:10] <Whitor_> though, maybe it is ... no big deal... not  a problem... just curious why they behave differently
[20:10] <Trizicus> thanks
[20:10] <Trizicus> both of you :)
[20:10] <Trizicus> "used by" 0 means what?
[20:10] <Trizicus> not used at all?
[20:10] <losher> Whitor_: Ah, in the man page, it says that tracert is equivalent to traceroute -I. Which accounts for the difference in behaviour...
[20:10] <innomen> How do i remove a sound choice typically? Assuming i've found the choice box and it's asking me to browse to the sound i want?
[20:11] <stargate> losher: Iwas just about to say that :P
[20:11] <Whitor_> losher, oh. Nice! thanks very much
[20:11] <losher> stargate: :-)
[20:11] <Whitor_> Tnanks too stargate
[20:11] <stargate> np whitor_ :P
[20:16]  * JNSamuel is blind
[20:16] <JNSamuel> PCM was muted.
[20:16]  * JNSamuel cries.
[20:17] <Nooneshere> Hello can someone help me please with wine?\
[20:17] <flanders> If I have already installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my netbook, is it too late to encrypt both the /home and root partitions? (I have plenty of space to work with if I need to resize my partitions.)
[20:19] <crescendo> When running update-initramfs and using an /etc/crypttab file, I get the following error: cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to determine cipher modules to load for <my_device> -- what now?
[20:19] <stefg> flanders: any particular reason to encrypt the root-fs? you can have /tmp in a tmpfs, so it's gone after reboot and threr's not much secret about an open source OS
[20:19] <grturner> netsplit
[20:19] <Nooneshere> Anyone know whatregsvr32 and how ot use it on wine?
[20:19] <Chun1> Anyone know why I can't seem to pipe the output of a python program? http://pastebin.com/m3a5fc299
[20:19] <ikonia> crescendo: still struggling, that message seems to suggest that it can't work out what kernel/crypt modules to load
[20:19] <tyler_d> howdy all!!
[20:19] <redDEADresolve> any get pidgin video messaging working?
[20:20] <flanders> stefg: I already set up /tmp as a tmpfs (stored on RAM disk).
[20:20] <crescendo> ikonia, it's only a warning, so it might be okay.
[20:20] <grturner> lol bot thought it was a flood
[20:20] <ikonia> redDEADresolve: I didn't know it could to that to be honest
[20:20] <ikonia> crescendo: Hmmm, it doesn't read like a warning, lets see how you get on
[20:20] <Nooneshere> Does anyone know how to use regsvr32 on wine? Please?
[20:20] <flanders> stefg: Two reasons. I like to try out new things (which helps for future issues) and I would like there to be no chance of anything being read by a stranger that might get physical access to my netbook/hardrive.
[20:20] <redDEADresolve> ikonia, with the new release its supposed to be able to do video messaging now
[20:21] <ikonia> redDEADresolve: I didn't think that release was in ubuntu yet though
[20:21] <chrgtr> Nooneshere: what are you trying to do..
[20:21] <sei> Hello, can someone help me install a file? I extracted the file to desktop typed (cd gyachi-1.1.71) but it says no such file or directory
[20:21] <ikonia> sei: what are you trying to install ?
[20:21] <redDEADresolve> ikonia, that might explain it. i thought 2.6.2 (included in karmic) was the newest release
[20:22] <sei> ikonia gyachi-1.1.71
[20:22] <chrgtr> sei, are you in your desktop
[20:22] <ikonia> redDEADresolve: ahhh karmic discussion is in #ubuntu+1 - someone may know
[20:22] <ikonia> !info gyachi
[20:22] <Nooneshere> @ chrgtr i am trying to install a game on linux via wine
[20:22] <sei> chrgtr what do you mean
[20:22] <flanders> stefg: I already set up /tmp as a tmpfs (stored on RAM disk).
[20:22] <chrgtr> are you using a terminal?
[20:22] <flanders> stefg: Two reasons. I like to try out new things (which helps for future issues) and I would like there to be no chance of anything being read by a stranger that might get physical access to my netbook/hardrive.
[20:22] <sei> chrgtr yes
[20:23] <chrgtr> sei: type 'pwd'
[20:23] <sei> chrgtr shows /home/username
[20:23] <chrgtr> Nooneshere: there is probably a specific tutorial for your game
[20:23] <flanders> stefg: I have successfully (to my own surprise, since it was very tricky) encrypted both root and /home partitions on openSUSE. But that is for my desktop. My netbook uses Ubuntu 9.04.
[20:23] <chrgtr> sei: that is your home directory,
[20:23] <chrgtr> sei, type ls
[20:23] <redDEADresolve> hi
[20:23] <Nooneshere> @ Chrgtr There isn't just on Winehq on that page
[20:24] <Nooneshere> @ chrgtr http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17312
[20:24] <sei> chrgtr it shows desktop pictures templates etc
[20:24] <Nooneshere> Hi Phyrrus whats up?
[20:24] <chrgtr> sei: yeh, so you desktop is in a folder in your home
[20:25] <stefg> flanders: http://blog.gnist.org/article.php?story=EncryptedSwapAndHomeUbuntu .... but i'd leave the basic OS unencrypted. There's not much secret about the code of 'ls'
[20:25] <chrgtr> sei: type cd Desktop
[20:25] <chrgtr> sei: you can use tab completion so you dont have to type in the whole name
[20:25] <flanders> stefg: But personal / private data can leak into the root partition, even with an encrypted /home partition and a tmpfs /tmp
[20:26] <crescendo> ikonia, it looks like I was able to mount the partition on boot, but I get thrown to a shell:  ALERT! /dev/mapper/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[20:26] <chrgtr> sei: like, cd Des<tab> and it will complete the name of thefolder
[20:26] <flanders> stefg: I understand that /boot has to rest on its own uncencrypted partition. This is for the kernels and initrd (initial ramdisks).
[20:26] <ikonia> crescendo: sdb3 is an interesting name for a device mapper file ???
[20:26] <crescendo> ikonia, of COURSE that doesn't exist, it SHOULD be /dev/mapper/sdb3_crypt - where do I change that?
[20:26] <Nooneshere> @ chrgtr I'm guessing you don't know how?
[20:26] <ikonia> crescendo: looks at your udev rules
[20:26] <crescendo> ikonia, where are those?
[20:27] <chrgtr> sei: oh, ls - lists the files in your current directory
[20:27] <ikonia> crescendo: errrrr /etc/udev/rules.d I think
[20:27] <flanders> stefg: Thanks for the link. All I could find were outdated articles, such as for Ubuntu 5 and 6.
[20:27] <stefg> flanders: no... users have no rights to write outside their /home/username..
[20:27] <crescendo> ikonia, should I chroot into the / of the actual partition?
[20:27] <Barnabas> stefg, in /tmp
[20:27] <crescendo> because, I assume those are packaged up by update-initramfs ?
[20:28] <ikonia> crescendo: do'nt need to chroot, just mount it
[20:28] <stefg> flanders: so no private data can leak out of your home other than /tmp and swap. And i don't think it's a secret which packages you have installed
[20:28] <flanders> stefg: But logs and cron jobs do. And from there one could easily read the logs and pick up important filenames, as well as file location databases. (mlocate, for example, indexes all file systems.)
[20:28] <puff> Is something going on with the repos?  I'm trying to install ant and it seems to get stuck at 0% [Waiting for headers]
[20:28] <teopost> seraa
[20:28] <Pici> !slow | puff
[20:29] <puff> :ahas.
[20:29] <Keiya> Hmm.
[20:29] <puff> This reminds me of an idea I had a few years ago,m a torrent-based apt server.
[20:29] <Keiya> I wonder if karmic's networking might be more stable...
[20:29] <Keiya> puff: Wouldn't help me, torrents don't work here/
[20:29] <stefg> flanders: ok... so encrypt /var as well... but all the bin stuff should stay as is IMHO
[20:29] <puff> That is, centralized key server and decentralized, torrent-based package server.
[20:29] <leaf-sheep> Pici: Add !slow to topic?
[20:29] <Keiya> The university network breaks /all/ trackers
[20:30] <puff> Keiya: Yeah, well if torrents were used more often for such purposes, there'd be more pressure to allow them.
[20:30] <Keiya> I dunno that it's deliberate.
[20:30] <puff> Probably.
[20:30] <Keiya> I mean, from what I've heard (I dun' use 'em) limewire/frostwire and kin work fine
[20:31] <crescendo> ikonia, it doesn't look like anything out of the ordinary in /etc/udev/rules.d - two files, 1 readme
[20:31] <grturner> the only issue i've ever had with frostwire was it didnt close when youde click on the close button, but that was a setting problem
[20:31] <joeyeye_> How do I fix missing mp3 codec information from mp3 files ? I have some mp3 content that plays under windoze, but the same files (some of them) show no audio codec information ...
[20:32] <Pupeno> How do I make grep match "failed" or "error"?
[20:32] <Keiya> grturner: Right, but why block bittorrent trackers and not those?
[20:32] <ikonia> crescendo: in the readme it says /lib/udev/rules.d/
[20:32] <grturner> Keiya, what do you mean by that?
[20:32] <Keiya> And they don't block actual bittorrent traffic, either, just trackers don't work
[20:32] <Keiya> So... I dunno.
[20:33] <grturner> who is doing the blocking?
[20:33] <crescendo> ikonia, oh, wow... lots more in there. What am I looking for?
[20:33] <talntid> All of the sudden I can't resolve names on the local network. what failed?
[20:33] <ikonia> crescendo: device mapper
[20:33] <richiejenkins> Hi, can someone please help me with this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8041790#post8041790
[20:33] <crescendo> KERNEL=="device-mapper",        NAME="mapper/control"
[20:33] <tyler_d> talntid: dns
[20:33] <talntid> bind9?
[20:33] <Keiya> I guess something like a distributed apt mirror would work pretty well with dht-tracker and peerex
[20:34] <tyler_d> talntid: you need to check resolv.conf as well possibly do a dns clean
[20:34] <Keiya> (I can grab, say, the OO.o ISOs fine using those methods)
[20:34] <Keiya> grturner: University
[20:34] <leaf-sheep> richiejenkins: Error! Ubuntu 9.06 does not exist! </halt>
[20:34] <richiejenkins> 9.6 then!
[20:34] <richiejenkins> xD
[20:35] <stefg> !jaunty
[20:35] <g0tcha> hey guys, in ubutn 9.04 on the top right, if i click on it it gives me an option to setup VPN, but its greyed out
[20:35] <g0tcha> anyone know why?
[20:35] <grturner> Keiya, i imagine it would depend from university to university... but theres always a way around. setup a proxy and you have a fix right there
[20:35] <Keiya> grturner: Uh...
[20:35]  * Keiya is confused
[20:35] <fbianconi> Pupeno grep "failed\|error"
[20:35] <Keiya> I know how to get around it if I want to, I'm just... never mind.
[20:35] <coz_> !slow
[20:35] <leaf-sheep> g0tcha: You lack packages -- is my guess.
[20:35] <tyler_d> g0tcha: you are missing the network-manager-vpn application?
[20:35] <leaf-sheep> !vpn | g0tcha
[20:36] <computerquip> I tried Upgrading to the 9.10 distro. The screen is frozen apparently, should I force quit it?
[20:36] <AstroEl> !rm /
[20:36] <grturner> Keiya, i guess you're discussing the policy of it, rather than the actual act of blocking the traffic?
[20:36] <AstroEl> :p
[20:36] <ikonia> AstroEl: what are you doing ?#
[20:36] <computerquip> !rm
[20:36] <AstroEl> !rm -r /
[20:36] <nicholas_> Hi, I'm looking for a kind of user logging system, which can help me create/give an overview of SSH loging and SFTP logings _without_ I have to look through raw logs? Know any?
[20:36] <AstroEl> i'm playing around ikonia :p
[20:36] <ikonia> AstroEl: stop that please
[20:36] <g0tcha> thanks
[20:36] <Keiya> grturner: No, I only mentioned it because the idea of a bittorrent-like apt came up.
[20:36] <AstroEl> :p
[20:36] <richiejenkins> can someone please help me with the following - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8041790#post8041790
[20:36]  * Keiya shrugs
[20:36] <Keiya> Just, never mind.
[20:36] <ikonia> AstroEl: this isn't a play channel, and it's certainly not for putting dangerous commands in the public domain
[20:36] <leaf-sheep> richiejenkins: Try looking if your hardware came up.
[20:36] <ro986> DONT run rm -R /
[20:36] <leaf-sheep> !ati | richiejenkins
[20:36] <ikonia> AstroEl: I'm not laughing - I'm serious - stop
[20:36] <tyler_d> nicholas_: what exactly are you looking at?
[20:37] <puff> Anyone have experience with jogl?  Are thre any known issues with jogl on ubuntu?
[20:37] <Ripp> Hi, I'm trying to import my mp3s from my NTFS file system using Amaroq..
[20:37] <stefg> nicholas_: i don't know one but would recommend #ubuntu-server for that question
[20:37] <tyler_d> nicholas_: you could grep for the relevant information and just do a quick little bash one-liner to gather the information and sort it out for you
[20:37] <richiejenkins> leaf-sheep i'll check i out
[20:37] <Ripp> Whhere should it be listed under?
[20:37] <Ripp> under /mnt?
[20:37] <tyler_d> Ripp: media
[20:37] <Ripp> the ntfs?
[20:37] <Ripp> ok
[20:37] <computerquip> Update Manager cannot apparently download the rele?ase notes so it errors out
[20:38] <nicholas_> tyler_d, I want to gather information about multiple users' log-in activity (it's for a school, and we wan't to check how much the server is being used).
[20:38] <tyler_d> Ripp: if you have problems further get gparted
[20:38] <stargate> gonna try the switch to grub2, wish me luck ^_^
[20:38] <nicholas_> stefg,  good idea!
[20:38] <Ripp> Good call
[20:38] <tyler_d> nicholas_: need.more.information ie. are you just doing a cat /path/to/dir/filename.log and sorting through it?
[20:38] <dustsnow> Could update from 9.04 to 9.10?
[20:38] <Keiya> (nnn, why is the whole collection of apt mirrors so overloaded? Needs more capacity.)
[20:39] <Ali_nz> how do I install a package?
[20:39] <tyler_d> nicholas_: are you doing du -s on a specific dir?
[20:39] <Ali_nz> I have expanded it
[20:39] <LjL> Ali_nz: you have what?
[20:39] <LjL> !software > Ali_nz    (Ali_nz, see the private message from ubottu)
[20:39] <stargate> !slow | Keiya
[20:39] <qualidafia> !torrents
[20:39] <grturner> !slow | grturner
[20:39] <grturner> hee hee
[20:39] <RussellAlan> how to remove konqueror?
[20:40] <stargate> :P grturner
[20:40] <grturner> i pissed off ubotto
[20:40] <Ali_nz> LjL: yeah i read that
[20:40] <Keiya> stargate: Um, I know.
[20:40] <RussellAlan> or set default browser in graphical
[20:40] <crescendo> ikonia, maybe my initial mounting of the disk prior to running update-initramfs caused this?
[20:40] <computerquip> To remove konqueror you have to remove kdebase I believe.....
[20:40] <Keiya> I was just complaining we need more capacity to handle spikes like this :P
[20:40] <crescendo> Keiya, use apt-p2p instead
[20:40] <Ali_nz> LjL: yeah i read that but it doesnt seem to apply to what I have (a directory with RealVNC expanded)
[20:40] <shoss> how do i fix failed repositories?
[20:40] <ikonia> crescendo: possibly, I've not done root encyption for a while so I'm quite rusty
[20:40] <nicholas_> tyler_d, I'm only interested in login dates. I can get the latest from SSH sessions with last log, otherwise I've tried to resort to grep'ing from auth.log, but due to the fact, that it's rotated once in a while, I can wrap a script around it properly (I wish to automate it later).
[20:41] <nicholas_> lastlog*
[20:41] <luckyray> is anyone familiar with the honeypot honeyd by neil provos
[20:41] <Ali_nz> LjL: I think I need to go to something like ./install ?
[20:41] <Keiya> crescendo: apt-p2p? /is/ there such a thing?
[20:41] <LjL> Ali_nz: that is not a "package"
[20:41] <alazyworkaholic> What's a command to force a complete & total wipe of my hard drive when I'm told it's now read only?
[20:41] <nicholas_> can't*
[20:41] <nicholas_> :-)
[20:41] <Ali_nz> LjL: ahh - shows how much i know
[20:41] <crescendo> Keiya: yes.  apt-cache search apt-p2p
[20:41] <ikonia> alazyworkaholic: I suggest you do it from a livecd so your hard disk is not in use
[20:42] <ikonia> alazyworkaholic: a tool such as gparted is easy to use
[20:42] <alazyworkaholic> ikonia: I'm already there.
[20:42] <LjL> Ali_nz: can't you use one of the VNC software that is actually in the repositories instead?
[20:42] <LjL> !vnc
[20:42] <Ali_nz> I have got a file called vncinstall? ./install vncinstall?
[20:42] <Ali_nz> LjL: I could, but I know realVNC much better
[20:42] <alazyworkaholic> GParted & the new Disk Utility with 9.10 beta just give error messages saying the disk is read only.
[20:42] <LjL> Ali_nz, there are no universal instructions for installing random stuff from the web - doesn't it come with a readme file?
[20:43] <shoss> how do i fix failed repositories?
[20:43] <RussellAlan> I went to KPackage (kde obviosuly) and i think i installed more for knoquerer i'd like to wipe it with terminal
[20:43] <stefg>  !karmic | alazyworkaholic
[20:43] <alazyworkaholic> ikonia: I'm looking for something a little more brute force hackish command to tell the OS to totally wipe the drive no matter what it says.
[20:43] <Keiya> crescendo: I'm on Windows now, because Ubuntu fails utterly at wifi for me (It connects fine, but for some reason when it's not on a wire it loses the ability to get out of the lan. >_>)
[20:43] <Keiya> I'll look when I'm back in my room though
[20:43] <ikonia> alazyworkaholic: why ?? why do you need something "hackish" - just use the correct tools, such as gparted
[20:43] <computerquip> That usually isn't Ubuntu's fault.
[20:43] <steffan> Ali_nz: It will have a INSTALL or README file, read that.
[20:43] <Ali_nz> it says % ./vncinstall /usr/local/bin
[20:43] <hannibal_> what is that sw for install ati driver?
[20:43] <Ali_nz> i did that
[20:43] <LjL> Ali_nz: then type sudo ./vncinstall /usr/local/bin
[20:44] <stargate> if Imanage to bjork my computer with this grub2 install, i am gonn cry
[20:44] <kevliu> Hi, can someone give me a hand with this? http://www.pastebin.org/32847
[20:44] <alazyworkaholic> ikonia: I'd love to, but they don't work. I think my ssd may have gone bad so I was wondering if there's some way to completely reset it to see if it responds at all.
[20:44] <LjL> alazyworkaholic: man dd
[20:44] <Ali_nz> ok, so i did that, but now what?
[20:44] <ikonia> kevliu: a.) this is ubuntu support - not scripting support b.) you are meant to do your school work on your own
[20:44] <LjL> Ali_nz: now it's probably installed, i guess?
[20:45] <Ali_nz> LjL: yeah but how to run it?
[20:45] <kevliu> I figured Ubuntu people would know classpaths and pathnames the best, no?
[20:45] <steffan> kevliu: ##linux is a more general support channel (but still asking questions like that is obviously homework).
[20:45] <LjL> Ali_nz: i haven't a clue.
[20:45] <ikonia> kevliu: classnames and path names are nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:45] <LjL> Ali_nz: but the instructions will cover that, no?
[20:45] <Ali_nz> LjL: would I need to cd to usr/local/bin?
[20:45] <ikonia> kevliu: join a c channel
[20:46] <LjL> Ali_nz: probably not, it'll be in thepath
[20:46] <Keiya> Oh, wait...
[20:46] <Keiya> I doubt many people using apt-p2p have the amd64 packages :/
[20:46] <Ali_nz> so maybe just type vncviewer
[20:46] <Weirdo_> hello
[20:47] <Weirdo_> I was so frightened by the floodbot lol xD
[20:47] <crescendo> ikonia, still no luck:  same error; ALERT! /dev/mapper/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[20:48] <Ali_nz> well when I type that I get "vncviewer: error while loading shared libaries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[20:48] <alazyworkaholic> LjL: dd? I just read the man & info pages & sorry, I don't see how that'll help. I also can't mount the disk.
[20:49] <kevliu> Guys, I'm just asking if it has something to do with a symbolic link or a path name I'm not setting up correctly.
[20:49] <kevliu> To me, that's a Linux/Ubuntu issue.
[20:49] <LjL> alazyworkaholic: dd can easily write a lot of zeros over a device. you said you wanted to wipe it, it'll do that.
[20:49] <kevliu> This is not asking people to do my homework for me.
[20:49] <ikonia> crescendo: let me see what I can find, device mapper with crytop works different than what I'd consider standard device mapper functions
[20:49] <hashbrowns> could someone help me troubleshoot my sound problem?  I've tried a few guides and none of them have worked for me.
[20:49] <LjL> alazyworkaholic: it certainly won't let you munt it, though. you really can't mount a disk that has been wiped clean.
[20:49] <ikonia> kevliu: it is - you're failing schoolwork and want some help - it's not an ubuntu issue so this isn't the right channel
[20:49] <steffan> !sound | hashbrowns
[20:49] <crescendo> ikonia, thanks a ton.
[20:49] <steffan> hashbrowns: you've followed that?
[20:49] <talntid> ok, wierdest thing ever.
[20:50] <talntid> i can't use the "r" key
[20:50] <ikonia> crescendo: isn't there a map file in the initramfs that device mapper uses (I'm not %100) ?
[20:50] <foey> Hello, I've just logged onto my box via ssh and it says 3 packages can be upgraded. Whats the command to install?
[20:50] <alazyworkaholic> LjL: thanks, but won't the disk have to be mounted?
[20:50] <hashbrowns> steffan: doing that now
[20:50] <jrib> !apt | foey
[20:50] <talntid> can't copy/paste anything with "r" in it, it gets stripped... can't type any command with "r" in it.... ideas?
[20:50] <yancho> hi i have a hdd which is 8.5 (Where i have my ubuntu) but now tis filled up and i have anoter partitions which has other free space .. is it possible without screwing up the system that i make biger my ubuntu partiion please?
[20:50] <LjL> alazyworkaholic: to use dd on it? no. actually, it should most definitely *not* be mounted.
[20:50] <foey> jrib : I've tried apt-get upgrade but it just updates the list.
[20:51] <Barnabas> talntid, faulty keyboard
[20:51] <Barnabas> ?
[20:51] <steffan> hashbrowns: okay
[20:51] <richiejenkins> Needing help with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8041955#post8041955
[20:51] <talntid> Barnabas: npo
[20:51] <jrib> foey: no it doesn't.  That's what 'apt-get update' does.  Did you read about the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[20:51] <kevliu> ikonia, thank you for being a supportive member.
[20:52] <kevliu> And I'm not exactly "failling" school.
[20:52] <kevliu> This is an honest pathname or symbolic link problem that I am not getting.
[20:52] <ikonia> kevliu: it's not about being supportive, it's about following the channel topic
[20:52] <crescendo> ikonia, I'd imagine so... should I extract it the whole initramfs to find it, or...?
[20:52] <ikonia> kevliu: your message said you are failing a part of your class, your words not mine
[20:52] <kevliu> I don't want to waste time arguing with you ikonia.
[20:52] <Barnabas> richiejenkins, try two commands and let us know the output
[20:52] <kevliu> If you think it is inappropriate, please ignore my request.
[20:52] <ikonia> crescendo: it wouldn't hurt to check as I'm working from memory so can't be sure
[20:52] <Barnabas> glxinfo | grep direct
[20:52] <Barnabas> glxinfo | grep vendor
[20:52] <ikonia> kevliu: no - please don't ask, it's not ontopic for the channel
[20:52] <foey> jrib : Sorry, I must be getting confused with update and upgrade! I was typing in update! Thanks :-)
[20:52] <kevliu> I am failing a test case.
[20:52] <kevliu> 2 out of 100 test cases I am failing.
[20:52] <richiejenkins> Barnabas Ok
[20:53] <kevliu> ikonia, please ignore me.
[20:53] <Pici> kevliu: #bash or the proper #channel for that language is the best place to ask, it is offtopic for #ubuntu though.
[20:53] <kusanagi_> hi, im trying to upgrade my netbook to 9.01. Ive got / in hda (4Gb) and /home in hdb. It says I lack free space in /. Is there anyway i can put some folders from / to my hdb so have enough space in /? (for example /share or /var/cache/apt)
[20:53] <ikonia> kevliu: it's not a problem if you don't ask - it's that simepl
[20:53] <steffan> !rules | kevliu
[20:53] <crescendo> ikonia, well, that begs the question. How would I repackage said files if I don't use update-initramfs?
[20:53] <kevliu> How am I being rude here?
[20:54] <ikonia> crescendo: mkinitramfs
[20:54] <jrib> kevliu: you have a programming question, this isn't the right channel
[20:54] <kevliu> This isn't a programming question.
[20:54] <kevliu> It is a pathname/symbolic link question.
[20:54] <ikonia> kevliu: enough now - this is the wrong channel - you have been given the right channels to check
[20:54] <hashbrowns> lspci -v | less
[20:54] <jrib> kevliu: it is.  You have C code and you are asking why it doesn't do what you want
[20:54] <hashbrowns> woops wrong window
[20:54] <stefg> !ot | kevliu
[20:54] <kevliu> I am asking this in the C channel.
[20:54] <richiejenkins> @Barnabas Sent you a PM
[20:54] <jrib> kevliu: this is #ubuntu, not ##c
[20:54] <Ali_nz> ok, let see if I can fix a diff problem. I want to connect Ubuntu to a VPN. I have added the VPN in gnome, but nothing happens when I click on it
[20:54] <Ali_nz> what should happen?
[20:55] <kevliu> Why all the hostility?
[20:55] <valentine> ok i need help here.
[20:55] <kevliu> I thought this was a friendly support group for LInux/UNIX problems.
[20:55] <valentine> someone please help me
[20:55] <Hadi> Help me , ! i installed vista over ubuntu and Suddenly ubuntu disappeared from boot window
[20:55] <kevliu> And what I have is a genuine Linux/UNIX problem.
[20:55] <ikonia> kevliu: the topic is ubuntu issues - not generic linux and c programming
[20:55] <jrib> kevliu: there's no hostility, I'm just telling you this is the wrong place for your question but you insist on arguing...
[20:55] <stefg> kevliu: because you're just adding noise to a busy channel
[20:55] <valentine> lol that's dumb..
[20:55] <valentine> listen
[20:55] <kevliu> Then if you don't know the answer, just ignore.
[20:55] <valentine> ubuntu won't update.
[20:55] <kevliu> I was only going to ask once and wait for a response, if any.
[20:55] <valentine> why?
[20:55] <leaf-sheep> kevliu: Because you lacks motivation and does not pay attention in class and are too lazy to learn.
[20:55] <FloodBot2> valentine: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:56] <yancho> hi i have a hdd which is 8.5 (Where i have my ubuntu) but now tis filled up and i have anoter partitions which has other free space .. is it possible without screwing up the system that i make bigger my ubuntu partiion please? - sory i cannot google because firefox cannot load due to no space
[20:56] <valentine> hey flood bot...everyone else is flodding.
[20:56] <leaf-sheep> !slow | valentine
[20:57] <valentine> it won't update with the cd either.
[20:57] <geirha> yancho: Moving your homedir to the other drive may be an option
[20:57] <leaf-sheep> valentine: Nobody is flooding here. It is fast traffic. :o
[20:57] <Hadi> Help me , ! i installed vista over ubuntu and Suddenly ubuntu disappeared from boot window
[20:57] <geirha> !home | yancho
[20:57] <jrib> !grub | Hadi
[20:57] <stefg> yancho: first try to make some room with sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[20:57] <valentine> so can you help me update this relase to jaunty?
[20:58] <leaf-sheep> !upgrading | valentine
[20:58] <jrib> valentine: FloodBot is just asking you to collect your thoughts and ask your (detailed) question on a single line
[20:58] <alazyworkaholic> LjL: oh, ok thanks for the info. I'm sorry, I'm having trouble making sense of the dd command from the man page. I'm hoping it'll work because I ran badblocks on it & there were none. My best shot would be "sudo dd if=0 of=/dev/sda" but I think I'm missing something.
[20:58] <yancho> phew thanks stefg - i have soem breathing space now :)
[20:58] <louis_> How do I find on ubuntu the path the documentation says is supposed to be: /$HOME/.vnc/xstartup
[20:58] <Alien_Freak> has anyone installed trac-git on an Ubuntu server?
[20:58] <leaf-sheep> valentine: Best to do it in few days because the Ubuntu servers are taking heavy traffic hits and that mean you won't be able to upgrade right away.  It'll be longest day.  Best to wait out few days. :o
[20:58] <jrib> !anyone | Alien_Freak
[20:58]  * genii ponders if=0
[20:59] <darknezz> i had a easy question... i know this is the ubuntu channel but someone might know.... i got a new ipod and i have owned one before but always used rockbox. its the ipod classic and i started adding songs and most work... but when I try and add the album in rainbows by radiohead... it would not work... i downloaded it from the website when they where giving it away in 2007... do you think it will not play because of the DRM or is it
[20:59] <darknezz>  rhythm box? (songbird didnt detect new IPOD)
[20:59] <stefg> yancho: you need to pastebin things, so you need a browser
[20:59] <yancho> ok now stefg  .. i have 400mb
[20:59] <valentine> that's just jacked ..i just want to upgrade from the cd...why can't i just do that easy and simple?
[20:59] <jason__> hallo
[20:59] <valentine> hallo....was ist los?
[20:59] <louis_> How do I find on ubuntu the path the documentation says is supposed to be: /$HOME/.vnc/xstartup
[20:59] <jrib> valentine: what are you upgrading exactly?
[21:00] <lizzzy> Hey, I'm having the "hda-intel audio problem" for weeks now and tried every trick in the book. I can't seem to get it right. Someone help me?
[21:00] <valentine> 8.10
[21:00] <jrib> valentine: to 9.04?
[21:00] <valentine> yes.
[21:00] <jrib> !who | valentine
[21:00] <stefg> yancho: put up sudo fdisk -l to pastebin
[21:00] <leaf-sheep> valentine: Oh you have CD, then yeah you can do that.  I'm assuming that you want to upgrade it via Internet as most people would do.
[21:00] <jrib> valentine: you need to use the alternate cd
[21:00] <stefg> !paste | yancho
[21:00] <louis_> I want to edit the file but how do i find it if its in a diff location?
[21:00] <valentine> and it's annoying cuz it dont work.
[21:00] <geirha> valentine: The regular ubuntu cd doesn't have room for both the live session and packages
[21:00] <readonlz> what is the channel for ubuntu 9.10
[21:00] <valentine> jason__ hallo Was ist los?
[21:00] <Pici> readonlz: #ubuntu+1
[21:01] <alazyworkaholic> lizzzy: what version do you use? I had a lot of sound issues with 9.04 but the last time I tried 9.10 sound worked much better - especially with skype.
[21:01] <guntbert> !de | valentine
[21:01] <darknezz> valentine: i found that you have to update all the packages before updating to new version... or else it will mess up
[21:01] <valentine> no no... geira i just want to keep the Crap ui have on my pc..and just upgrade to jaunty from intrepid.
[21:01] <valentine> lol ubottu i speak englisch.
[21:02] <valentine> well darknezz it's is jacked up..badly.
[21:02] <valentine> i just want to upgrade.
[21:02] <vincentpsp2> join #ubuntu-fr
[21:02] <geirha> valentine: Oh, so you want to install the newer version over the old, but keep your home folder?
[21:02] <louis_> Okay I'm trying to follow this guide: http://www.zimbio.com/Linux/articles/lA4qecuC6Lc/How+install+setup+TightVNC+Debian+Ubuntu+Tutorial
[21:02] <darknezz> valentine: jacked up?
[21:02] <talntid> ok, so, lowercase r and s don't work. if i use shift they do. what the heck? also if i copy/paste something with lowercase r or s, it strips those.
[21:02] <valentine> yea geira..i just want to keep all my stuff..and upgrade...and it wont let me do it fromt he net..but i have the cd.
[21:02] <lizzzy> alazyworkaholic: 9.04. Hasn't there been a fix found yet?
[21:02] <alazyworkaholic> Does anyone understand "dd" well enough to tell it to send 0's to sda, ignoring any errors? I can't make much sense of the man page. Does "sudo dd if=0 of=/dev/sda" approach being correct?
[21:03] <MoonlitFate> Would be a good idea to install the ATI Proprietary Drivers?  Do, I actually need them for anything, or is the one that Ubuntu comes with just fine?  I'm asking because I want to see if I can play any sort of 3_D game. : )
[21:03] <geirha> valentine: Won't let you do it from the net? how so?
[21:03] <louis_> but @ this command i get stumped its empty or it doesn't exist:   nano /$HOME/.vnc/xstartup
[21:03] <bzrk> alazyworkaholic: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[21:03] <yancho> stefg : http://pastebin.com/m7a1d2da1
[21:03] <ciderpunx> alazyworkaholic: /dev/zero
[21:03] <ciderpunx> ;-)
[21:03] <stefg> alazyworkaholic: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda to zero the drive
[21:03] <coz_> MoonlitFate,   I am going to asume  they would be the same for  compiz running    ....    Compiz requires at least a Radeon 7000 (or M6). From the 7000 to the X1950, you can use the open source "radeon" driver. All cards newer than the X1950 must use the proprietary "fglrx" driver.
[21:03] <alazyworkaholic> lizzzy: Dunno. I just lived with having to quit games, enter sound preferences, click around, then restart...
[21:04] <valentine> oh and another thing...when you do have the new versiopn...and you install the sound driver thingy's....for that musik box thingy...it keeps saying get codecs..even tho i already have them..that's abug..and how so?? it just spent 6 hours trying to upgrade..and it Fick's up half way through.
[21:04] <ciderpunx> yeh, you want to be a bit careful doing that!
[21:04] <alazyworkaholic> bzrk, ciderpunx, stefg, Thanks.
[21:04] <ciderpunx> are u encrypting?
[21:04] <darknezz> valentine: and when i was talking about updating packages i didn't mean of all programs you have installed but just the Ubuntu updates.
[21:04] <valentine> it won't do that either darknezz....how can i just use the cd to just upgrade without losing my shiza? lol
[21:05] <solistic> just trying to upgrade to 9.10 and getting "W:Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/universe/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch"? What how to cicumvent this? Any ideas?
[21:05] <bzrk> valentine: use the cd as repository in your apt sources.list
[21:05] <valentine> yea solistic..i have the same problem.
[21:05] <thiebaude> !9.10 | solistic
[21:05] <stefg> yancho: hmm, ok... so where do you have more space for linux?
[21:05] <darknezz> valentine: sorry not 100% sure
[21:05] <valentine> i want to fully upgrade...from cd...
[21:05] <readonlz> ok, this is a question regarding 9.10 but since that channeil is kinda inactive, and i-m sure that this happened to someone before - after the upgrade i cannot boot into my os because it says that my filesystem is read only. how can I stop that?
[21:06] <foey> I'm using ssh to connect to my box and just downloading the latest beta of ubuntu via wget. If I leave the terminal (Close the ssh connection) will it stop and log me out?
[21:06] <valentine> this is the first time i have ever seen this happen...and ubuntu is starting to run like windows.
[21:06] <alazyworkaholic> ciderpunx: no, I think my (new) ssd's toast, even though badblocks gave an all clear. the dd command gave: dd: opening `/dev/sda': Read-only file system
[21:06] <yancho> stefg,   no idea . gotta use grub i think best ey?
[21:06] <geirha> valentine: You need the alternative cd if you want to upgrade using the CD. As explained in !upgrade. The regular CD does NOT contain packages (well some, but very few)
[21:06] <darknezz> i had a easy question... i know this is the ubuntu channel but someone might know.... i got a new ipod and i have owned one before but always used rockbox. its the ipod classic and i started adding songs and most work... but when I try and add the album in rainbows by radiohead... it would not work... i downloaded it from the website when they where giving it away in 2007... do you think it will not play because of the DRM or is it
[21:06] <darknezz>  rhythm box? (songbird didnt detect new IPOD)
[21:06] <bzrk> alazyworkaholic: mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda
[21:06] <MoonlitFate> coz_: Hm, I see.  Well, I have an older ATI card-- FireGL 8800, but the drivers for it on the ATI website are from 2006, and I'm not sure if I would need them or not. ._. To be honest, I'm kind of afraid to install them-- if my system died that would be epic fail.
[21:06] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:06] <valentine> but i dont want to lost my stuff.
[21:06] <thiebaude> hey
[21:06] <marcellus> valentine: apt-get clean   will delete downloaded archives and possibly give you some space
[21:06] <valentine> and it will go bye bye if i do that.
[21:06] <ciderpunx> alazyworkaholic: yuk.
[21:07] <valentine> danke!! marc.
[21:07] <sebsebseb> MoonlitFate: ok I just joined,  but  ATI issues aye?  what's yours?
[21:07] <coz_> MoonlitFate,   then I suggest going to #compiz channel and talking with eighther adamk   ..whom I strongly suggest ...or  soreau
[21:07] <alazyworkaholic> bzrk: thanks, that gave me: "mount: can't find /dev/sda in /ect/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[21:07] <jose> ola
[21:07] <coz_> MoonlitFate,  both of whom especiall adamk  wil know the best approach for ati cards   I am strickly nvidia
[21:08] <stefg> yancho: grub is the bootloader, has nohing to do with that... honestly speaking your partition layout is a mess. are all of these windows partitions necessary?
[21:08] <bzrk> alazyworkaholic: check where you mounted the drive and use that location instead of /dev/sda then
[21:08] <jose> hello
[21:08] <sebsebseb> MoonlitFate: ATI  cards can be a problem in 9.04
[21:08] <valentine> marcellus.....Nichts!
[21:08] <MoonlitFate> coz_: Oh, okay.  :3
[21:08] <valentine> nothing
[21:08] <coz_> MoonlitFate,  i would suggest waiting for about an hour or so because adamk is coming home from work
[21:08] <yancho> stefg yeah they are a tragidy .. but have installed ubunt uafter al the windows
[21:08] <jose> hijo puta
[21:08] <Mka> !upgrade>Mka
[21:09] <ashmew2> !upgrade>ashmew2
[21:09] <stefg> yancho: can't you backup to some external drive and rethink your partitions?
[21:09] <valentine> looks like i have no choice but to do the windows thing..and re-muff-k'n boot....everything.
[21:09] <guntbert> !askthebot | Mka, ashmew2
[21:10] <yancho> that i think is the best solution stefg
[21:10] <crescendo> Is there an updated guide for this?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyEncryptedRootWithInstaller
[21:10] <ashmew2> guntbert: I read that in the PM , did that first time
[21:10] <foey> I'm using ssh to connect to my box and just downloading the latest beta of ubuntu via wget. If I leave the terminal (Close the ssh connection) will it stop and log me out?
[21:10] <readonlz> how to prevent the 'read only file system' error on booting?
[21:10] <NobodyzZero> Hello.
[21:10] <readonlz> how to prevent the 'read only file system' error on booting?
[21:10] <ashmew2> !repeat | readonlz
[21:10] <hashbrowns> steffan: still here?
[21:11] <guntbert> !9.10 | readonlz
[21:11] <darknezz> :( no help here... will find a more appropriate channel.
[21:11] <alazyworkaholic> bzrk: that's the strange part. I'm looking at Disk Utility (in karmic) & it detected the ssd & tells me it's at /dev/sda. There's /sda1, /sda2...etc. shouldn't /dev/sda be correct? I'm pretty sure that where the 1st disk is mounted with a live usb.
[21:11] <sebsebseb> darknezz: help with what? I only joined here a little while ago
[21:11] <bzrk> alazyworkaholic: automount should be under /media i think
[21:11] <bzrk> alazyworkaholic: check with mount
[21:11] <puff> My screen brightness keeps dropping, what the heck?
[21:12] <readonlz> alazyworkaholic: can you restate your problem, it looks similar to mine
[21:12] <lizzzy> So,I uninstalled pulseaudio and audio seems to work but not all the players.
[21:12] <valentine> ok thanx for the help...i give up..i didnt come to ubuntu linux..for the windows nightmares.
[21:12] <leaf-sheep> puff: Power Options -- It's dropping because you're idling or similar.
[21:12] <guntbert> foey: yes
[21:12] <sebsebseb> valentine: what's your problem
[21:12] <foey> gunbert : thanks.
[21:12] <sebsebseb> valentine: I only joined here a little while ago,   but something Windows and Ubuntu,  Grub issue?
[21:12] <valentine> stupid arsch ubuntu won't upgrade.
[21:13] <hashbrowns> I'm trying to troubleshoot my sound problems by following the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting but I've run into a problem because my codec isn't in the alsa version I'm using.  What do I do?
[21:13] <valentine> no
[21:13] <guntbert> valentine: please keep polite, don't swear
[21:13] <valentine> sebsebseb:..it won't let me upgrade linux.
[21:13] <valentine> sorry
[21:13] <lizzzy> I'm having sound problems too :(
[21:13] <stefg> !intelhda | hashbrowns
[21:13] <sebsebseb> valentine: ok which version are you on?
[21:13] <valentine> sebsebseb:8.10
[21:13] <ashmew2> !anger | ashmew2
[21:13] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: that was probably a bad idea to remove pulse audio
[21:14] <thiebaude> !pulse
[21:14] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: No. Amarok works fine now.
[21:14] <sebsebseb> valentine: ok well  not much point upgrading 8.10 now to 9.04,  with  9.10  just round the corner on October 29th the release date
[21:14] <valentine> damn everyone here speaks german lol.
[21:14] <guntbert> ashmew2: you were ask to investigate with the bot only in PM, not in the channel please
[21:14] <valentine> no no..i have to upgrade right away. sebsebseb:
[21:14] <guntbert> asked
[21:14] <darknezz> any good resources to learn more terminal commands???
[21:14] <ashmew2> yeah sorry my bad
[21:14] <Mka> readonlz: what's your problem again?
[21:14] <valentine> sebsebseb:this version acting dumb.
[21:14] <lizzzy> But flashplayer audio and songbird stopped playing (even with pulseaudio).
[21:14] <sebsebseb> valentine: plus one of the main advantages for 9.10 is default  Ext4 support :)  not for upgrades though
[21:15] <sebsebseb> valentine: ok what's the problem with 8.10?
[21:15] <ashmew2> omg Ext4 !! :D
[21:15] <lizzzy> sebsebseb But flashplayer audio and songbird stopped playing (even with pulseaudio).
[21:15] <valentine> starting to act like winblows xp.
[21:15] <thiebaude> hmm
[21:15] <sebsebseb> valentine: How so?
[21:15] <readonlz> Mka: upon booting it says my file system is read onyl, and that it cannot remove /forcefsck and won-t boot
[21:15] <valentine> won't upgrade upgrades...wont' do jack daniels.
[21:15] <valentine> sebsebseb: just laughs at me..and goes...well....i guess your screw3d..lol.
[21:16] <elfen> hi
[21:16] <sebsebseb> valentine: you need to be more specific, that could mean many differnet things
[21:16] <bzrk> readonlz: sounds like its remounting readonly because of defective harddisk
[21:16] <sebsebseb> !details |  valentine
[21:16] <alazyworkaholic> bzrk: the disk isn't mounted & I can't mount it. /mount is empty.
[21:16] <lnxmad> ubuntu is being stupid
[21:16] <lnxmad> locking up
[21:16] <valentine> it wont let me upgrade the distro..it wont let me download updates..it wont do anything...
[21:16] <lnxmad> sick of i
[21:16] <lnxmad> it
[21:16] <Mka> readonlz: so you are booting another system now?
[21:16] <FloodBot2> lnxmad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:16] <readonlz> Mka: livecd
[21:16] <guntbert> readonlz: #ubuntu+1 is in no way inactive - why don't you ask there?
[21:17] <bzrk> alazyworkaholic: check for accessibility of the disk with fdisk /dev/sda
[21:17] <sebsebseb> lnxmad: locking up how so?
[21:17] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! I have installed ION3Plus as explained on the official site (and not from repositories). It works fine. I only need to make it an option in gdm. Thanks
[21:17] <lnxmad> gdm
[21:17] <valentine> sebsebseb: and obviously there's nothing wrong with my net.
[21:17] <lnxmad> not responding
[21:17] <leaf-sheep> !slow | valentine
[21:17] <lnxmad> xchat happens to be the only app still responding
[21:17] <readonlz> guntbert: i wrote my question a couple of times there, nobody responded, i figured this is surely not a new problem so i tred here as well
[21:17] <leaf-sheep> valentine: Keep in mind, the Karmic BETA was released yesterday.
[21:18] <valentine> i'm not torrenting crap..i keep telling you...i just want to upgrade from the cd.. sebsebseb:..and leaf sheep..i ain't beta'n nothing..till it's final.
[21:18] <Mka> readonlz: try to mount your ubuntu partition and pastebin me the contents of /etc/fstab
[21:18] <bzrk> valentine: i told you already cou can add the cd as repository in the sources.list
[21:18] <valentine> to all that pay'n attention: i dont want to lose anything..i
[21:18] <hashbrowns> stefg: opening ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz as the guide says yields a file I cannot read.
[21:18] <valentine> it tried that bzrk..
[21:18] <sebsebseb> valentine: you can try another mirror for the 9.04 upgrade
[21:18] <valentine> it's laughing at me.
[21:19] <valentine> how bout you guy's just take over.and do it yourselves??
[21:19] <sebsebseb> valentine: system > administration  > software sources  and change it in there some where
[21:19] <readonlz> Mka: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2bf99537
[21:19] <Mka> readonlz: ok
[21:19] <Madwill> hi
[21:19] <alazyworkaholic> bzrk: what am I looking for there? I tried "fdisk /dev/sda" & I'm not able to write the partition table...Unable to read /dev/sda"
[21:20] <Keiffer> does anyone know if corel and/pr photoshop run well in ubuntu with wine?
[21:20] <valentine> someone do remote acc..for me? but not screw up my stuff?
[21:20] <bzrk> alazyworkaholic: your drive isnt recognized then, check your cabling and bios settings plus the dmesg on bootup whether it gets recognized at all
[21:21] <marcellus> alazyworkaholic: fdisk -l
[21:21] <sebsebseb> valentine: you can also burn your self a 9.04 CD and do a clean install,  after backing up data
[21:21] <snek> Keiffer you can run Photoshop CS1 without problems by using Wine.. CS2 probably also works, not sure about CS3 or CS4 though
[21:21] <Madwill> if i use virtual screen like the one we can see in ubuntu demos, can i set some screenRecording codec to record a  firefox session, and have like 4 different sessions where i record 4 different video to 4 different filename(the computer is a 8 core xeon it can handle it)
[21:21] <Madwill> cs2 works real fine
[21:21] <Madwill> cs3 not at all
[21:22] <valentine> fick das..lol..i aint backing up crap..i shouldnt have to..this is linux..and that's the point of coming to the "better side"
[21:22] <Mka> readonlz: you seem to have two hard drives. pastebin me the contents of menu.lst
[21:22] <alazyworkaholic> bzrk: It's a netbook, so cabling shouldn't be a problem. I know the BIOS still detects the drive since when I boot from the usb booting from P-1800xzy (disk name) is still an option.
[21:22] <Madwill> the last version of GIMP is incredible Thos
[21:22] <sebsebseb> valentine: no OS is 100% perfect
[21:22] <valentine> sebsebseb: but better than windows.
[21:22] <valentine> that's for dang sure.
[21:22] <readonlz> Mka: yes, i have two. the menu list is exactly the same as before upgrading, only the kernel number is different
[21:22] <maxster2> howdy
[21:22] <Mka> readonlz: in the mean time, you can remove the forcefsck file
[21:22] <sebsebseb> valentine: also whatever OS your running you should be backing up really if you got important stuff, since hard disks can just fail
[21:22] <valentine> sebsebseb: will the new version support the ipod touch?
[21:23] <alazyworkaholic> marcellus: fdisk -l gives me nothing at all. The console just goes down a line.
[21:23] <readonlz> Mka: where is it supposed to be? because i don/t have that file :S
[21:23] <koh_> Have any Android users in here?
[21:23] <maxster2> anyone knows why I cant get netboot images for 9.04 or 9.10?
[21:23] <sebsebseb> valentine: also having a seperate home partition makes reinstalling or even distro hopping easier
[21:23] <losher> alazyworkaholic: you've been struggling with this for days now, haven't you. Do you have to use Karmic? Mixing suspect hardware with a buggy OS isn't helping you debug at all...
[21:23] <guntbert> valentine: please stop that swearing - even in german
[21:23] <valentine> i hate windows.....period.
[21:23] <valentine> sorry.
[21:23] <Keiffer> snek, thanks. i think i'll stikc to VMs...
[21:23] <sebsebseb> !home |  valentine
[21:23] <stefg> alazyworkaholic: you just zero'ed the drive ... no partition table, so no output
[21:23] <JV13R> Escriba el texto aquí....HOLA
[21:23] <hashbrowns> stefg: opening ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz as the guide says yields a file I cannot read.
[21:24] <Mka> readonlz: I thought you said earlier that it was there you cannot remove it
[21:24] <sebsebseb> !es |  JV13R
[21:24] <Keiya> valentine: You hate windows? Wow... I'll keep glass away from you then
[21:24] <readonlz> Mka: no, that is what the boot error says. Read only file system. cannot remove /forcefsck
[21:24] <stefg> hashbrowns: i don't know what you mean, but that seems a permission problem... try sudo
[21:24] <valentine> ubottu..i know how to do that stuff...it's just that...i should'nt have to... and keiya..i hate windows xp vista..anything bill gates...cept xbox.
[21:24] <sebsebseb> Keiya: heh I guess
[21:24] <ChewyGals> ?
[21:24] <DoctorD> hy all :)
[21:25] <lizzzy> Well, how do I find out if it if my audio device is 3stack or 6stack?
[21:25] <sebsebseb> valentine: ubottu is not a person, it is a computer program
[21:25] <todell3> yoooooooooooooo
[21:25] <lizzzy> lol @ valentine
[21:25] <valentine> oh..i didnt know that..it doesnt say.
[21:25] <valentine> i dont come into these things.
[21:25] <todell3> you love this
[21:25] <Mka> readonlz: then it's "~/mountpoint/forcefsck"
[21:25] <lizzzy> "these things"????
[21:25] <sebsebseb> valentine: well it can say if I tell it to tell you for example
[21:25] <louis_> where is the vnc xstartup file I need to edit TightVNC for KDE?
[21:26] <hashbrowns> stefg: i did sudo but i used nano to open it and it said converted from mac text or mac format and it was a few regular letters combined with a bunch of question marks inside of diamonds
[21:26] <alazyworkaholic> stefg: the drive didn't zero. The ssd led would have come on & given the slow speed, it would have taken a while. besides, it's still detected with it's old (corrupt) filesystems in disk utility, even though gparted doesn't even see it.
[21:26] <maco> lizzzy: play around with differnet ones rebooting til one works right
[21:26] <lizzzy> maco: Doing that.
[21:26] <maco> lizzzy: its very guess & test right now to find the right quirk
[21:26] <louis_> I can't for the life of locate it anyone got any clues?
[21:26] <Mka> readonlz: try to edit menu.lst to load the old kernel and initrd image
[21:26] <maco> lizzzy: if you figure out the quirk that works for *everything* including mic and headphones and muting-speakers-when-headphones-in-use and all that... please file a bug and subscribe me (maco.m)
[21:26] <lizzzy> ok.
[21:27] <losher> louis_: do you have a .vnc directory?
[21:27] <lizzzy> maco: Will do that.
[21:27] <readonlz> Mka: i tried booting all of these kernels, none of them work
[21:27] <valentine> i give up...danke...tscuB.
[21:27] <todell3> fuckkk
[21:27] <louis_> not sure how to find it
[21:27] <snek> louis_, you could do a sudo updatedb, and then locate xstartup ?
[21:27] <todell3> fuck
[21:27] <sebsebseb> valentine: hold on
[21:27] <FloodBot2> todell3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:27] <valentine> k
[21:27] <valentine> hey man..don't swear..they hate it..haha.
[21:27] <louis_> kk one sec
[21:27] <todell3> yea for real
[21:27] <alazyworkaholic> stefg: actually, I think it's beyond us now. I restarted & now the BIOS doesn't even see the ssd. I think it's gone. Thanks all for your help.
[21:27] <Der_Trolly> Hey fresh UBUNTUS!
[21:27] <todell3> shut up^
[21:27] <Der_Trolly> Whats los with YOU?!?!?!?
[21:28] <losher> louis_: open a terminal and type ls -aF
[21:28] <Mka> readonlz: are you using UUIDs on menu.lst or just /dev/sda? or /dev/sdb?
[21:28] <valentine> Nichts.
[21:28] <sebsebseb> valentine: just get the 9.04 ISO
[21:28] <louis_> louis@louis-desktop:~$ sudo updateb
[21:28] <louis_> sudo: updateb: command not found
[21:28] <Der_Trolly> Everything klar on the Andrea Doria?!?!?!?
[21:28] <nixuser> how come synaptic bandwidth is so slow?
[21:28] <valentine> have it.
[21:28] <todell3> open terminal type: sudo apt-get yurmutha
[21:28] <valentine> sebsebseb: have it
[21:28] <readonlz> Mka: uuids, it was like that automatically
[21:28] <sebsebseb> valentine: backup your data, sepeate home partition, external hard disk whatever, and  re install Ubuntu?
[21:28] <Der_Trolly> Everything in BUTTER on your KUTTER?!?!?!?
[21:28] <Der_Trolly> YEAH!
[21:28] <todell3> haha!
[21:28] <DJones> !ops | Der_Trolly
[21:28] <Der_Trolly> FOLL FRESH!
[21:28] <cchildress> hi all. have the archive.ubuntu.com servers been slow today for others, or is it just me?
[21:28] <valentine> sebsebseb: after i do that..how do i get it back to full disk??
[21:28] <sebsebseb> DJones: I was thinking of doing !ops as well
[21:29] <todell3> gay
[21:29] <lizzzy> cchildress: its not just you
[21:29] <ikonia> todell3: please don't be derogatory like that
[21:29] <todell3> hahahaha
[21:29] <sebsebseb> valentine: What do you mean full disk?
[21:29] <bastidrazor> !slow > nixuser
[21:29] <stefg> alazyworkaholic: you probably need to reboot since the kernel still thinks there's partitions.
[21:29] <valentine> sebsebseb: i dont want there to be any partititions.
[21:29] <cchildress> lizzzy: ok, thanks. i just wanted to know if i needed to be patient or take a look at my system. now i know :)
[21:29] <sebsebseb> valentine: ok yeah
[21:29] <valentine> sebsebseb: i want it back to normal.
[21:29] <louis_> sudo: updateb: command not found
[21:29] <sebsebseb> valentine: First of all though, where are you going to back up your stuff to?
[21:29] <holmser> whats the beta support channel again?
[21:29] <sebsebseb> holmser: #ubuntu+1
[21:30] <valentine> i have nothing..
[21:30] <holmser> thanks
[21:30] <ikonia> #ubuntu+1
[21:30] <sebsebseb> holmser: np
[21:30] <todell3> why would you kick me women
[21:30] <hashbrowns> stefg: i did sudo but i used nano to open it and it said converted from mac text or mac format and it was a few regular letters combined with a bunch of question marks inside of diamonds
[21:30] <ikonia> todell3: stop messing around please
[21:30] <valentine> sebsebseb: if i make a partion with gparted..can i just back it up to that..and put it ont ehre..and then make it go away?
[21:30] <Mka> readonlz: I have very little information to help you
[21:30] <valentine> sebsebseb: back to ful disk.
[21:30] <Mka> readonlz: you supply very little information
[21:30] <shoss> how do i fix failed repositories?
[21:30] <readonlz> Mka: what information do you need?
[21:30] <todell3> for real
[21:30] <leaf-sheep> !slow | shoss
[21:30] <sebsebseb> valentine: ok so have a data partition,   or  seperate /home  you mean, and  then get rid of everything else and re install?
[21:31] <ikonia> shoss: point at a working repository
[21:31] <Mka> readonlz: menu.lst
[21:31] <valentine> nein..never mind...
[21:31] <Mka> readonlz: sudo fdisk -l
[21:31] <valentine> danke.
[21:31] <todell3> sudo get-apt womanizor
[21:31] <reportingsjr> If I am trying to upgrade to 9.10 how do I clear the cache of dled files? My first attempt to dl 9.10 was halted most of the way through and now my system will not upgrade. I think it is a corrupt cached file.
[21:31] <readonlz> Mka: i pasted the menu lst a while back
[21:31] <shoss> leaf-sheep: thanks
[21:31] <Mka> readonlz: that was fstab
[21:31] <readonlz> Mka: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m534b79f3
[21:31] <readonlz> here it is, but i-m sure i pasted it
[21:32] <leaf-sheep> richiejenkins_: Any latest progress?
[21:32] <mhuth_home> Are things like failure to connect to security.ubunto likely slow servers?  I've been unable to complete the security updates from the update manager.  Thanks
[21:32] <computerquip> Does Ubuntu have a net install?
[21:32] <leaf-sheep> !slow | mhuth_home
[21:32] <lizzzy> Oh Wow! I have absolutely no clue how, but amarok plays all my audio (Even on the microphone :P).
[21:33] <richiejenkins_> leaf-sheep, yeah stil working on it thanks
[21:33] <sebsebseb> lizzzy:  cool did maco help you with that?
[21:33] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, you tried to help anyway
[21:33] <maco> sebsebseb: no
[21:33] <Keiya> Oh...
[21:33] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: true, also I was on the verge of  suggesting he joined #ubuntu-de since he  seems to like his Germen
[21:33] <Keiya> apt-p2p probably won't work too well here.
[21:33] <computerquip> does Ubuntu have a net-install?
[21:33] <leaf-sheep> computerquip: Yes.
[21:33] <Keiya> I have ports blocked... I think /all/ incomming connections are blocked.
[21:34] <stefg> mhuth_home: yeah... you simply dropped out of the queue... wait a couple of day
[21:34] <thiebaude> yep
[21:34] <louis_> I got to head to work but I'll be back on around 1:00 am CST maybe I can figure this out later thanks for all the help losher see you on when i get back =)
[21:34] <lizzzy> Not too sure. I've been trying a million things. The weird part is I don't have pulseaudio installed :)
[21:34] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: well if possible  it's  a good idea to find out  what you did, so that if you get similar problems in the future, you know what to do
[21:34] <losher> louis_: :-)
[21:34] <Keiya> Even though I have a public IP address >_>
[21:34] <tadmin> hi
[21:34] <tadmin> good good
[21:34] <leaf-sheep> tadmin: Hi and welcome to #ubuntu
[21:35] <readonlz> Mka: can i just change my fstab file to say rw?
[21:35] <mhuth_home> stefg - k, thanks
[21:35] <sebsebseb> maco: is it bad to remove pulseaudio?   lizzzy  apparantly has done that
[21:35] <readonlz> i can edit the disk while i'm on livecd
[21:35] <tadmin> no no
[21:35] <maco> sebsebseb: depends on the use case
[21:36] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: Well, amarok gives me mixed responses. If I login later, it may not play at all. But I somehow fixed the problem that it was not playing through my headphones.
[21:36] <lizzzy> Now it plays through the headphones
[21:36] <lizzzy> :)
[21:36] <maiberd> lizzzy hello
[21:37] <fbdystang> what does the %u do in firefox %u ?
[21:37] <lizzzy> But lemme try the other players too
[21:37] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: well congratulations :)  you did it some how,  and  sound can be a pain to configure in Ubuntu
[21:37]  * maiberd <•~•~•~•~ ÏðÈâÅò ÂñÅì ~•~•~•~•>
[21:37] <kielanmatt_> hi peoplez
[21:37] <Mka> readonlz: dont do it
[21:37] <MenZa> maiberd: Please don't do that.
[21:37] <Mka> readonlz: I see minor problems in your menu.lst
[21:37] <thiebaude> !ru | maiberd
[21:37] <basilesque> i installed ubuntu netboot remix and it seems to be missing the wireless card drivers, how do i fix this
[21:37] <sebsebseb> maco: doesn't  alsa use pulseaudio as well now.   I am thinking a wrapper here, whatever that means exactly not entirely sure.
[21:37] <Keiya> basilesque: ... install them?
[21:38] <ZummiG777> Is there an issue with some of the repos?  I'm getting not-founds when trying to do updates on several repos.
[21:38] <readonlz> Mka: that is the automatically generated 9.10 list, i changed only hd1.0 to 0.0 beacuse that is how i booted all of the previous editions
[21:38] <stefg> !wifi | basilesque
[21:38] <maiberd> Ò¨ËÊÈ ÊÒÎ ÕÎÒÈÒ ÒÐÀÕÍÓÒÑß Ñ ÐÓÑÑÊÈÌ ÏÀÐÍÅÌ???
[21:38] <maco> sebsebseb: if you have it insalled
[21:38] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: I don't think it's ubuntu's fault at all. It's the Hardware problem. I  had problems on fedora too, but it was easier to fix than ubuntu.
[21:38] <basilesque> how do i do that without an internet connection to that laptop??
[21:38] <Keiya> !slow | ZummiG777
[21:38] <thiebaude> ZummiG777, i know the servers are slow as anything
[21:38] <maiberd> lizzzy õî÷åø ÿ òåáÿ â ðîò âûåáó?
[21:38] <DoctorD> tu-ro
[21:38] <sebsebseb> !ops |  maiberd
[21:38] <thiebaude> !offtopic | maiberd
[21:38] <Mka> readonlz: paste here the output of "sudo tune2fs /dev/sdb2 | grep UUID"
[21:38] <stefg> basilesque: plug a lan cable in
[21:38] <hashbrowns> stefg: I finally got the file to open and theres no entry for my codec yet again.
[21:38] <ZummiG777> OK.  Then our local copy is also just being messed up.
[21:39] <maiberd> ZummiG777 hyisos
[21:39] <basilesque> stefg: tried that, won't recognize the ethernet card either
[21:39] <lizzzy> maiberd: Er.. I don't seem to have the font installed for your language or something :(
[21:39] <Mka> readonlz: sorry make sdb1 not sdb2
[21:39] <thiebaude> ZummiG777, took me 3hrs to do 136mb of 9.10 upgrades
[21:39] <niko> maiberd: please find others appropriate channel : /msg alis help list
[21:39] <basilesque> stefg: pretty sure it doesnt have any drivers
[21:39] <Keiya> basilesque: ... Then you need to grab the debs onto a flash drive, probably.
[21:39] <maiberd> lizzzy zakroi ebalo
[21:39] <Keiya> And install from that
[21:39] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: I think they are purpously being silly,  since  MenZa told them to stop, and then that
[21:39] <ikonia> maiberd: stop please
[21:40] <maiberd> ikonia ÷å áàçàðèø òî ìûø
[21:40] <stefg> basilesque: what kind of machine is that?
[21:40] <DJones> !ru > maiberd
[21:40] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: Why can't someone kick/ban them from the channel?
[21:40] <basilesque> stefg: toshiba m200 portege
[21:40] <readonlz> Mka: it outputs only all of the available flags, as if i typed only tune2fs
[21:40] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: ikonia just did
[21:41] <chuy_max> what vmWare program should I download if I want to run Ubuntu on top of Windows? (fusion, player, server, workstation....).
[21:41] <lizzzy> GOOD :)
[21:41] <Mka> readonlz: sorry "sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sdb1 | grep UUID"
[21:41] <mee> chuy_max: workstation
[21:41] <mee> chuy_max: but checkout virtualbox, too.
[21:41] <prappl93> Are the update servers laggish for anyone else? I am just writting it off as burden
[21:42] <readonlz> Mka: i-ll paste here since it/s one line Filesystem UUID:          eba1a6ef-7aee-44b0-99f6-3a58aec4a8f4
[21:42] <sebsebseb> chuy_max: with Windows as host hmm not that great, not that great at all,  could be useful for getting a feel for Ubuntu though
[21:42] <losher> !slow | prappl93
[21:42] <thiebaude> prappl93, yep they are
[21:42] <stefg> basilesque: http://www.intilinux.com/howto/531/toshiba-portege-m200m205-tablets-on-ubuntu/ doesn't mention that there's exotic problems with the NIC ...
[21:42] <chuy_max> mee, ok, I'll check both. However, I'm biased towards vmware because I've heard hardware support is not very good with virtualbox
[21:42] <sebsebseb> chuy_max: Virtualbox, VMware, player, VMware server,  or  Microsoft Virtualpc which probably isn't that Linux friendly
[21:42] <prappl93> Alright.
[21:43] <prappl93> Is the white paper out for 9.10 yet?
[21:43] <sebsebseb> prappl93: The white paper???  what do you mean, also #ubuntu+1 is currently the karmic channel
[21:43] <kielanmatt_> guyz do you game on linux
[21:43] <mee> chuy_max: possible. I can only say that it works great w/ my hardware (priv msg. me if you have more questions, as this is getting pretty OT for #ubuntu)
[21:44] <sebsebseb> kielanmatt_: sometimes I play games on Ubuntu yes
[21:44] <Mka> now replace the line with "root      (hd0, 0)" on menu.lst with "uuid            eba1a6ef-7aee-44b0-99f6-3a58aec4a8f4"
[21:44] <sebsebseb> kielanmatt_: thing is they tend to be native games :)
[21:44] <kielanmatt_> when was the last time you saw a next-gen game on linux
[21:44] <Mka> readonlz: now replace the line with "root      (hd0, 0)" on menu.lst with "uuid            eba1a6ef-7aee-44b0-99f6-3a58aec4a8f4"
[21:44] <prappl93> sebsebseb, I thought the term for  the list of what all was going to be on the next version of something was frequently referred to as a "white paper"
[21:44] <kielanmatt_> native!
[21:44] <hashbrowns> can someone help me out with my sound?  I've tried the general sound troubleshooting guide and snd-hda-intel troubleshooting guide on the ubuntu website and they both lead to my codec not being part of the alsa version.
[21:45] <kielanmatt_> native next-gen game on linux
[21:45] <mee> prappl93: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper   not quite the std. usage
[21:45] <readonlz> Mka: any special things / caps? indentations?
[21:45] <chuy_max> sebsebseb, why is it not that great at all?, I have used linux for years, but I have to install Ubuntu Feisty because an old program I developed does not work perfectly in Ubuntu Jaunty. I don't want to create a partition only for Feisty and I tried to install Ubuntu Feisty with persistent changes  but failed miserably.
[21:45] <sebsebseb> kielanmatt_: most commercial games companies do not care about Linux right now,  because they think it does not have enough market share on the desktop yet, hence why the kind of game your on about, your unlikely to find any time soon for a Linux distro
[21:45] <stefg> hashbrowns: what does aplay -l tell about your card?
[21:45] <Mka> readonlz: no caps
[21:45] <sebsebseb> kielanmatt_: of course you may be able to play it nicely in Wine
[21:45] <kielanmatt_> sebsebseb: it can be done
[21:45] <DoctorD> how was that address of that site gnome look themes ?!
[21:45] <kielanmatt_> I'm living proof
[21:45] <kielanmatt_> nto finished
[21:46] <lizzzy> Ah well. It's pretty difficult to upgrade anything when the servers are loaded ( stuck at 0% :( ). WIll just have to wait and try later. I'll use amarok till it works. If I find a solution to play audio on the other players, will post it in here.
[21:46] <kielanmatt_> but i have physX, deferred Shading, LARGE SCALE SSAO
[21:46] <kielanmatt_> global illumination
[21:46] <Mka> readonlz: other lines with other kernels are incorrect
[21:46] <kielanmatt_> the list goes on forever
[21:46] <Keiya> Ugh
[21:46] <DoctorD> how was that address of that site gnome look themes ?!
[21:46] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: What  are you trying to upgrade?  Also it's only security updates in the repos
[21:46] <Keiya> I can't connect to any of these music shares.
[21:46] <Keiya> (iTunes-style ones)
[21:46] <DJones> !themes | DoctorD
[21:46] <Keiya> I wonder why not?
[21:46] <kielanmatt_> basically you can put a 290gtx and it wont be wasted with ubuntu
[21:46] <readonlz> Mka: ok, i did it. and i know they are, i changed them on spot once the original booting didn't go through
[21:47] <kielanmatt_> it will squeal for mercy
[21:47] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: and then you got to wait for the next Ubuntu release, or use a ppa, or install a later version of a program in another way for examplle complileing it from source
[21:47] <DoctorD> th
[21:47] <DoctorD> x
[21:47] <Keiya> Also, um. Does anyone know, what the package name of the native tex-system is?
[21:47] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: sudo aptitude install build-essential libncurses-dev gettext xmlto xmltoman linux-headers-`uname -r` <--- (ALSA) Seems to be stuck at 0%
[21:47] <Mka> readonlz: now umount sdb1
[21:47] <hashbrowns> stefg: there are two entries.  NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: ALC883 Analog and device 1: ALC883 Digital
[21:47] <kielanmatt_> i managed to overkill a 9800gt
[21:47] <Mka> readonlz: and do a fsck on it
[21:47] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: sometimes the  repos  go bad,  but when that happens another mirror can be tried instead
[21:48] <hashbrowns> stefg: they are both labeled card 0
[21:48] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: How do I do that in command line?
[21:48] <readonlz> Mka: done
[21:48] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: I don't know, but graphically,  system > administration > software sources  and the option is there somewhere
[21:48] <Tead> hello, short question. I've a Dell E6400 with displayport, I buyed an adaptor DisplayPort -> DVI. If I plug an 1920x1200 24" on the displayport with adaptor the screen works on perfect on 1920x1200
[21:48] <Mka> readonlz: "sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo e2fsck -fvyp /dev/sdb1"
[21:49] <crescendo> What is the current method for generating an initramfs image for a LUKS-encrypted root partition?
[21:49] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: oh  which one are you on,  Gnome or KDE?
[21:49] <Mka> readonlz: after this reboot
[21:49] <readonlz> Mka: for your fsck command it says that only one of the options may be specified
[21:49] <readonlz> Mka: -p or -a, n or y
[21:49] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: KDE
[21:49] <AJC_Z0> foey: Yes, it almost certainly will. To avoid this, use nohup(1) or run the remote session within screen(1)
[21:50] <Mka> readonlz: "sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo e2fsck -fvp /dev/sdb1"
[21:50] <Tead> no i have a DVI->HDMI cable on it and plug my 42" Sony Bravia TV on it, and Ubuntu see the TV as 72" Sony and can't set the resolution higher then 1280x1024, how can i set the resolution on 1920x1080?
[21:50] <lizzzy> sebsebseb: My wireless tends to drop too.. brb
[21:50] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: ok what I said was for Gnome, KDE will have something similar
[21:50] <readonlz> Mka: okay, its doing something. so i shoudl reboot when its done/
[21:50] <sebsebseb> lizzzy: #kubuntu is also the channel  for  KDE
[21:50] <sebsebseb> in Ubuntu
[21:50] <Mka> readonlz: yes
[21:51] <modder> hey could you help me installing a game for windows in wiNE?
[21:51] <shawn_> Anybody here use Gambas?
[21:51] <readonlz> Mka: okay, it should work then or?
[21:51] <fbdystang> anyone running an intel i7 with 64 bit ubuntu? successfully?
[21:51] <Guest98306> hello
[21:51] <stefg> hashbrowns: don't know if http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239995&page=15 helps
[21:51] <Mka> readonlz: it should
[21:51] <joshua__> so the sudo safe upgrade is okay then?
[21:51] <mee> fbdystang: I have. It worked fine
[21:51] <modder> fbdystang: i am
[21:51] <joshua__> grr
[21:51] <joshua__> wrong channel
[21:51] <Guest98306> i have a problem with /
[21:51] <readonlz> Mka: ill go and try, i'll be back in either case
[21:52] <fbdystang> modder: does ubuntu freeze on you by chance?
[21:52] <Guest98306> i have too smalll / and i don't actualization
[21:52] <modder> fbdystang: not at all man.. what's your problem?
[21:52] <ashmew2> Guest98306> i have too smalll  ....No offence but ROFL
[21:52] <ashmew2> later guys
[21:53] <Guest98306> po polku ktos tu kuma??
[21:53] <alazyworkaholic> My ssd appears to have died. Is there any sort of probing command I can send to along a pata cable to see if it detects anything at all?
[21:53] <thiebaude> !po
[21:53] <got2get> Hi. can anyone help with the "SYNAPTIC PACKAGE MANAGER" ?
[21:53] <fccf> !pl
[21:53] <fbdystang> modder: well just built a new rig and it freezes randomly with ubuntu, I now have fedora running and it is stable. but i want ubuntu
[21:53] <genii> !pl
[21:53] <genii> fccf: Darn!
[21:54] <sebsebseb> got2get: What do you want to do?
[21:54] <thiebaude> haha
[21:54] <Mka> got2get: get to the point
[21:54] <got2get> i can`t update it
[21:54] <shawn_> Is there any way to run Visual Basic on Linux or am I going to have to use Windows for this?
[21:54] <modder> fbdystang: well, what components did you build your pc with'?
[21:54] <Mka> got2get: what does it say
[21:54] <sebsebseb> shawn_: Wine maybe, probably not well maybe,  Windows virtual machine yes
[21:54] <shawn_> sebsebseb Hmm yeah true...
[21:55] <jpdw> hi quick question.... where can you see what **dns** was returned by a DHCP server?  ie ifconfig shows the ip address etc, but can't for the life of me think where to find the DNS server value
[21:55] <got2get> it can`t get access to some servers or something
[21:55] <sebsebseb> got2get: ok by the sounds of it, there's a problem today with the repos
[21:55] <Keiya> God the ubuntu mirrors are slloooowwwww... stupid Karmic beta...
[21:55] <got2get> it did it all week
[21:55] <sebsebseb> got2get: ,becasue of people getting the karmic beta
[21:55] <sebsebseb> got2get: or whatever
[21:55] <Mka> got2get: the information you give is not helpful
[21:56] <sebsebseb> got2get:   Keiya  try this  system > administration > software sources  and you can tell it to use another mirror some where in there
[21:56] <Mka> got2get: what error messages do you get
[21:56] <shoss> file operation is crashing during copying files on a flash drive on ubuntu 9.04 64 Gnome
[21:56] <crescendo> What is the current method for generating an initramfs image for a LUKS-encrypted root partition?
[21:56] <fbdystang> modder: intel DX58SO, 2x3 kingston triple channel ram. evga gtx 260
[21:56] <mee> jpdw: if you run the dhcp client manually, I believe you can get it to display the DHCPACK/OFFER
[21:57] <mee> w/ all the associated metadata
[21:57] <got2get> there are several errors that basicly say the same thing. it says the location of these updates can`t be found
[21:57] <sebsebseb> got2get: yes  the repos are bad
[21:57] <sebsebseb> got2get: right now, hence your error
[21:57] <modder> fbdystang: mmm that probably ubuntu doesn't like tthat gtx so much
[21:57] <sebsebseb> got2get: what are you trying to download from them?
[21:57] <Mka> got2get: pastebin me the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and of anything inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[21:57] <got2get> so i should just wait?
[21:58] <jpdw> mee: but what about if it was already run (if you see what I mean).  The annoying thing is this is 'easy' in windows, so I can't believe it's not at least as easy in linux... I ended up having to reboot to windows the other day just for this reason !
[21:58] <got2get> i`m just tryin` to update my package list
[21:58] <fbdystang> modder: what can i do for a workaround? what mobo you have?
[21:58] <sebsebseb> got2get: it sounds like it's this time again, when the Ubuntu repos go bad for whatever reasons,  and people can't get stuff from them
[21:59] <got2get> well...
[21:59] <mee> jpdw: yeah, linux is best if you find this sort of tinkering fun. :)  -- you can disconnect from the network and try again (manually)
[21:59] <sebsebseb> got2get: if you wait two or four days,  things will probably work properly again
[21:59] <got2get> o.k.
[21:59] <modder> fbdystang: well , it depends on whaht you expect your pc to do.. ar you a gamer? or what? i have a nice asus se p45 with socket 775
[21:59] <got2get> tnx a lot
[22:00] <sebsebseb> got2get: I mean you haven't changed any of your repos, it's all default yes?
[22:00] <hashbrowns> stefg: well now ive got static if i unmute my microphone but nothing comes in over the microphone except for static.  If the mic is muted, still no sound at all.
[22:00] <got2get> i can`t remember, but i think i didn`t
[22:00] <sebsebseb> hi losha
[22:00] <got2get> i didn`t try to update almost a year
[22:01] <sebsebseb> got2get: hmm
[22:01] <sebsebseb> got2get: What type of update are you trying to do exactly?
[22:01] <fbdystang> modder: i only game every once in a while. mainly i need the extra resolution for multiple screens for work. why wouldn't ubuntu like the gtx260? is the card too new??
[22:01] <got2get> just update the package list itself, i`m not trying to download anything new
[22:01] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: fox bodies FTW
[22:01] <euzao> hello
[22:02] <euzao> I'm seeking for a program which makes you able to create PDFs from jpeg pictures
[22:02] <sebsebseb> got2get: why update the package list then?
[22:02] <crescendo> is there any way to safely terminate an apt-get upgrade?
[22:02] <got2get> because it`s been almost a year since i did that and the manager keeps asking me to update
[22:03] <mgmuscari> euzao: imagemagick is easy
[22:03] <modder> fbdystang: ok well.. you know there is always some problem with newest hardware out there..
[22:03] <njbair> If I have a bug to file regarding the booting in 9.10 Beta, how do I submit that bug?
[22:03] <euzao> I want a GUU
[22:03] <euzao> GUI
[22:03] <Xzia> :(
[22:03] <modder> maybe the new ubuntu release will work great with your pc, who knows
[22:03] <MAAAAD>  users-admin GUI doesnt' display any user permissions or groups and trying to add a new user results in a empty group file. what could be wrong?
[22:03] <mgmuscari> euzao: try using the gimp and printing to pdf
[22:04] <hashbrowns> stefg: for some reason when i choose the oss devices in the sound menus they now work but alsa does not
[22:04] <euzao> mgmuscari, it is not one jpeg
[22:04] <fbdystang> modder: I am a newbie to linux. how long do people usually have to wait for good drivers?
[22:04] <euzao> it is several photos, see?
[22:04] <mgmuscari> euzao: so you want batch processing but you want a gui?
[22:04] <got2get> well..., i`m going to try something, tnx anyway
[22:04] <got2get> bye
[22:04] <euzao> I just want to put in several pages, in order, several jpegs photos
[22:05] <fbdystang> mgmuscari: thats right, whats ftw?
[22:05] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: that depends on how forthcoming the hardware manufacturers are with specs
[22:05] <modder> fbdystang: well it depends on what you want to do wih your pc, it depends on what you're looking for...
[22:05] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: for the win
[22:05] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: what year?
[22:05] <njbair> euzao: can you insert them into OpenOffice Draw?
[22:05] <josvuk> hi, I installed python-wxgtk2.8 with apt-get in ubuntu 9.04 the problem is when I run the version information in python import wx wx.__version__ I get 2.6 instead of my new installed 2.8 version
[22:05] <fbdystang> 82 351 fi :)
[22:05] <josvuk> what I am doing wrong?
[22:05] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: niiiiiice
[22:06] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: '89 gt, (mostly) stock 302 (right now...)
[22:06] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: http://tinyurl.com/yddl3kp
[22:07] <readonlz> Mka: didn-t work
[22:07] <readonlz> Mka: however, i have noticed that diferrent kernels give different errors, so i have writen them all down
[22:07] <fbdystang> modder: now that I have the card i just want stability. hehe
[22:07] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: what card is this?
[22:07] <basilesque> how do i know if i have drivers for an ethernet card?
[22:07] <Mka> readonly: where are they?
[22:07] <readonlz> Mka: i really dont know if they are related, but here they are>
[22:08] <mgmuscari> basilesque: does the device appear when you run ifconfig?
[22:08]  * Keiya considers ordering pizza for dinner
[22:08] <Mka> readonlz: yes?
[22:08] <fbdystang> mgmuscari: wow, that is really clean. evga gtx260
[22:08] <readonlz> Mka: udevd-work: rename (/dev/pktcdvd.udev.tmp. /dev/pktcdvd) failed: is a folder
[22:08] <modder> fbdystang: ahaha right well if you're finding yourself quite ok with fedora, why don't stick with it?
[22:08] <Keiya> ... er.... wrongchan, sorry
[22:08] <njbair> what is the name of the new program used for bootsplash in 9.10?
[22:09] <readonlz> Mka: udevd:inotify_add_watch (6, null, 10) failed: bad address
[22:09] <santium> Can anyone tell me why folders in /home have ASCII 1 (SOH) in them?
[22:09] <readonlz> Mka: :/proc: unable to mount: device busy
[22:09] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: well be happy you bought an nvidia card :)
[22:09] <basilesque> mgmuscari: how do i know if it works from ifconfig?
[22:09] <readonlz> Mka: and the last one is : init:mountall main process killed by segv signal
[22:09] <krzysztof> jest ktoś z polski
[22:09] <fbdystang> modder: because of the cool people and support with ubuntu. should it be stable with karmic, maybe?
[22:09] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: that's the word everybody who sees it uses to describe it
[22:09] <thiebaude> !pl
[22:10] <bigbrovar> hi people
[22:10] <mgmuscari> basilesque: if the device doesn't appear, then you probably don't have drivers loaded for it
[22:10] <mgmuscari> basilesque: otherwise it'd most likely be autodetected
[22:10] <fbdystang> mgmuscari: if you want to put in a 351 let me know,  i might be able to help
[22:10] <edulacomadreja> hi everyone, after editing "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" ubuntu hangs on "Configuring network interfaces..." at boot
[22:10] <hashbrowns> hey is there a way i can image my ubuntu install so if i ever mess something up I can just revert to its current state?
[22:11] <modder> fbdystang: yes, it could absolutely be! i tell you my experience.. last year i culdn't use ubuntu 8.04 on my computers at all.. then when 8.10  came out i didn't now how but everything worked sucessfullly and i kept it :)
[22:11] <basilesque> mgmuscari: it doesnt say anything clear like "you have/have not the drivers"
[22:11] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: cool. my current plans are 3.73 gears, a new traction-loc and 31-spline rear axles, then a tko-600 trans before i get to the motor
[22:11] <shawn_> If anyone here knows Object Oriented languages... Is it normal for a beginner even after reading articles to still not understand when or why to use classes etc? X_X
[22:11] <codingfreak> @hash: yep, dd
[22:11] <bigbrovar> i have a dvd extracted .vob file and am wondering if they is any editor on linux which could edit .vob video files, need to do some cutting (like trip out and marge some parts of the video together)
[22:11] <mgmuscari> basilesque: do you see a device called eth0 ?
[22:11] <santium> Sorry, I misworded that. When I use find, it puts SOH in everything.
[22:11] <hashbrowns> codingfreak: could you elaborate pls? I'm new to this stuff.
[22:11] <basilesque> mgmuscari: ya it gives out a hardware address and more greek...
[22:11] <njbair> shawn_: PM me
[22:11] <codingfreak> noprob
[22:11] <Aison> hello, I installed the flashplugin-installer package, how do I install the flash plugin now? ^^
[22:12] <mgmuscari> basilesque: then you probably have drivers installed
[22:12] <codingfreak> dd images a file to another
[22:12] <fbdystang> mgmuscari: ohh niice, thats the tranny i want
[22:12] <Mka> readonlz: i dont know what next to try
[22:12] <losha> bigbrovar: avidemux is good with mpeg2 (vob) files...
[22:12] <basilesque> mgmuscari: when i plug in an ethernet cable, it does not detect the connection though
[22:12] <fbdystang> modder: i wonder if i should attempt a prerelease of karmic?
[22:12] <codingfreak> if u use dd on a disk and specify another file (in a mounted fs) u create a 1:1 disk backup
[22:12] <jose__> can anyone point me to a step by step tutorial to change the boot order? I'm running Vista and Ubuntu 9.04. at startup ubuntu loads by default, but I would like Vista to load by default instead
[22:12] <modder> fbdystang: no, wait the original release
[22:13] <Ben_90> hi
[22:13] <allanon_> hey all
[22:13] <bigbrovar> losha: thanks (extra points because it has a qt interface and am a kde junky :)  )
[22:13] <coldflame22> !gksudo
[22:13] <fbdystang> modder: may i ask why wait?
[22:13] <Evilc4t> Hola
[22:13] <Evilc4t> Buenas noches
[22:13] <Evilc4t> gooooooooooood night!
[22:13] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: yeah, i'm eying it because my linkages clank sometimes
[22:13] <codingfreak> example cmd line: sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/EXTHD/ubuntu.image
[22:13] <mgmuscari> basilesque: do you get link lights?
[22:13] <DeaCon> .
[22:13] <modder> guys is it free to play online with nexuiz?
[22:13] <basilesque> mgmuscari no
[22:13] <mgmuscari> basilesque: try running dhclient wlan0
[22:14] <allanon_> can simple questions be posed here?
[22:14] <codingfreak> dyou cmon with it?
[22:14] <bigbrovar> losha: one more thing, can i use it to cut out parts of the video i dont like this avidemux thing
[22:14] <Evilc4t> Yea
[22:14] <Evilc4t> they can be placed here
[22:14] <Evilc4t> :D
[22:14] <codingfreak> @allanon: yo!
[22:14] <mgmuscari> basilesque: are you sure that your cable is good? you should get link lights even if your machine is powered off
[22:14] <Ubuntu2> allanon_ I say go ahead but thats just me. :)
[22:14] <Evilc4t> :D
[22:14] <mgmuscari> fbdystang: also it'd be nice to not have a 5th gear that stinks
[22:15] <allanon_> swt.. so "netcat localhost 25"... does nothing.  What can I check to figure out why?
[22:15] <basilesque> mgmuscari results are "ERROR no such device" ya its a good cable, i installed ubuntu over it through pxe
[22:15] <hmemichel> I used to be able to email questions to answer.launchpad from my menu bar at the top of my screen but now it is gone...why??
[22:15] <modder> fbdystang: coz the prerelease is not stable in some cases and it has little "new" drivers compatibility .. the real new release is best because it is absolutely stable.. it is not a alpha release that is not complete
[22:15] <Ben_90> does anyone know what's the internet today?
[22:15] <hashbrowns> codingfreak: I think so.  Is my ubuntu install guaranteed to be on /dev/sda? I did a wubi install.
[22:15] <Ubuntu2> allanon_ try "netcat 127.0.0.1 25" ? maybe
[22:15] <Evilc4t> internet is in a box
[22:15] <Ben_90> my end is very slow
[22:15] <codingfreak> :-O
[22:15] <codingfreak> not sure...
[22:15] <Ubuntu2> not really sure of all of the netcat commands.
[22:15] <mgmuscari> basilesque: so it appears in ifconfig but you get an error when you try to configure it?
[22:16] <Evilc4t> man "netcat"
[22:16] <losha> bigbrovar: it will let you cut, I don't recall if it will paste also. Not sure what you mean when you say you 'dont like this avidemux thing'. There aren't a lot of choices for stable video editing in linux....
[22:16] <allanon_> i tried the internal ip to no avail.. ill give 127 a shot ;p
[22:16] <codingfreak> but i gave u a EXAMPLE cmd line xD
[22:16] <modder> guys is it free to play online with nexuiz'?
[22:16] <allanon_> yes Modder
[22:16] <Scunizi> bigbrovar: handbreak.fr
[22:16] <allanon_> or it used to be about 8 years ago
[22:16] <Evilc4t> what's nexuiz?
[22:16] <Scunizi> a game
[22:16] <jose__>  can anyone point me to a step by step tutorial to change the boot order? I'm running Vista and Ubuntu 9.04. at startup ubuntu loads by default, but I would like Vista to load by default instead
[22:16] <allanon_> gpl fps
[22:17] <Evilc4t> yea game's are usually played, what kinda?
[22:17] <Mka> readonlz: I am not convinced by these errors though
[22:17] <codingfreak> u could boot up with the cd/stick and create the image then, which included also the whole win partition or u specify the partition 2 be saved
[22:17] <sebsebseb> jose__: that's easy enough to sort out, I am curious though as to why you  want Vista as the default boot
[22:18] <edulacomadreja> how to skip something at boot???
[22:18] <bigbrovar> losha: sorry bad grammar, i meant will it allow me to cut part of the video i dont like? this avidemux app
[22:18] <losha> jose__: If I understand your question, it's just a one line change to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:18] <sebsebseb> edulacomadreja: skip what?
[22:18] <Mka> readonlz: try replacing the line "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-11-generic root=UUID=eba1a6ef-7aee-44b0-99f6-3a58aec4a8f4 ro quiet splash " with "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-11-generic root=UUID=eba1a6ef-7aee-44b0-99f6-3a58aec4a8f4 ro" in your menu.lst and reboot again, this time watching closely the boot messages
[22:19] <jose__> sebsebseb: It's my parent's desktop, they're used to vista and get frustrated that ubuntu loads if they turn on the machine and walk away
[22:19] <sebsebseb> jose__: ah yes that
[22:19] <sebsebseb> jose__: ok   edit the file losha told you to
[22:19] <losha> bigbrovar: Well, I use it to chop commercials out of tv programs recorded by my video card, so yes...
[22:19] <mgmuscari> i'm out... later everyone
[22:19] <sebsebseb> jose__: and put the Vista entry before the Ubuntu enterys, and  Vista should boot up by default
[22:19] <herenbdy> are the ubuntu servers besieged by the beta release or something? updates and upgrades take forever (30-70KB/s)
[22:19] <jose__> ok, how do i go about doing that sebsebseb?
[22:19] <fccf> bigbrovar: avidemux is for putting pieces together and formatting ... use gopchop to make pieces of video
[22:19] <timposey> has anyone ever used zoneminder video security system with ubuntu?  I need to know what input card I need, I'm looking at 4 ch with bnc connectors
[22:20] <Ubuntu2> herenbdy yeah the new beta release is slowing everything down
[22:20] <basilesque> !slow | herenbdy
[22:20] <sebsebseb> jose__: only thing is with this,  if you later install a new kernel,  or even an update for Grub, you might have to re do the file  like that agian
[22:20] <ubuntu_> Mka: sorrz, my net restarted
[22:20] <herenbdy> I see
[22:20] <sebsebseb> losha: what I just said to jose, that's the way you would do it as well?
[22:20] <ubuntu_> Mka: what did you say after convinced ?
[22:20] <LogicFan> anyone have ideas on creating m4b audiobooks with chapters on linux?  I can make m4b files from existing mp3s just fine, but I can't find anything that will create the chapters
[22:20] <Mka> readonlz: try replacing the line "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-11-generic root=UUID=eba1a6ef-7aee-44b0-99f6-3a58aec4a8f4 ro quiet splash " with "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-11-generic root=UUID=eba1a6ef-7aee-44b0-99f6-3a58aec4a8f4 ro" in your menu.lst and reboot again, this time watching closely the boot messages
[22:20] <jose__> sebsebseb: that's ok, once i learn it, i know it
[22:20] <Faethin> Greetings :D
[22:20] <jose__> sebsebseb: now how do i start?
[22:21] <bigbrovar> losha: may all your prayers be answered :) thanks very much, was going to try kdenlive but that is an over kill for what i need
[22:21] <Faethin> Can anybody recommend a good music player to manage my iPod nano 4th gen 16Gb?
[22:21] <losha> sebsebseb: well usually new kernels etc. add entries only to the *end* of menu.lst, so that things like the default entry remain valid...
[22:21] <sebsebseb> jose__: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:21] <fccf> LogicFan: there is probably an xml you can create that will input the chapters, you will have to figure out how to encode it with those options
[22:21] <Mka> jose__: there is actually nothing to learn
[22:21] <mistya> hola
[22:21] <sebsebseb> losha: oh ok
[22:21] <bigbrovar> fccf: gopchop ? hmm havent heard of that before
[22:21] <sebsebseb> !es |  mistya
[22:21] <edulacomadreja> hola
[22:21] <Mka> jose__: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:22] <bigbrovar> fccf: will google it
[22:22] <fccf> !info gopchop | bigbrovar
[22:22] <mistya> sebastien, hi
[22:22] <mistya> Have invitations for Google?
[22:22] <Faethin> Anybody?
[22:22] <sebsebseb> edulacomadreja: ok well I don't use Ubuntu Server so pming me with an issue for it, isn't  much good, also there's even a channel for it #ubuntu-server
[22:22] <Mka> ubuntu_: try replacing the line "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-11-generic root=UUID=eba1a6ef-7aee-44b0-99f6-3a58aec4a8f4 ro quiet splash " with "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-11-generic root=UUID=eba1a6ef-7aee-44b0-99f6-3a58aec4a8f4 ro" in your menu.lst and reboot again, this time watching closely the boot messages
[22:22] <timposey> Trying to use zoneminder video security system with ubuntu?  I need to know what input card I need, I'm looking at 4 ch with bnc connectors... any ideas
[22:23] <sebsebseb> !ot |  mistya
[22:23] <bigbrovar> fccf: i need it for a .vob (dvd video files) not mpeg
[22:23] <edulacomadreja> ops... wrong channel, sorry!!!
[22:23] <sebsebseb> edulacomadreja: np
[22:23] <losha> bigbrovar: why not try them all and then tell us which you chose, and why...
[22:23] <ubuntu_> Mka: the only suspicious message i get during that is something regarding not recognizing some usb device
[22:23] <ubuntu_> and then it hangs on Done.
[22:23] <sebsebseb> edulacomadreja: in fact sometimes server issues are done in here
[22:23] <ubuntu_> Mka: and then it hangs on "Done."
[22:23] <sebsebseb> edulacomadreja: I think or whatever
[22:23] <fccf> bigbrovar: you are inputting from dvd media??? then use dvd::rip to create mpeg2 AVI's
[22:24] <losha> bigbrovar: vob is basically mpeg2 with a few (unimportant) tweaks...
[22:24] <Mka> ubuntu_: then remove that USB device
[22:24] <crescendo> is there any way to safely terminate an apt-get upgrade?
[22:24] <bigbrovar> losha: good idea, i might even blog it and get some hits in the process :D
[22:24] <sebsebseb> crescendo: maybe, but not the best idea
[22:24] <stsm> if i get the 9.10 beta i will just be able to update to the actual release right?
[22:24] <stsm> just making sure
[22:24] <ubuntu_> Mka: it doesn't say which. the only usb devices i have are mouse and printer
[22:24] <sebsebseb> stsm: ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:24] <Mka> ubuntu_: remove the printer
[22:24] <kazagistar> my USB flash drive is not being detected when I plug it; it worked fine until today
[22:24] <fccf> !karmic | stsm
[22:25] <crescendo> sebsebseb: I just launched a full apt-get upgrade inside a chroot jail, but obviously /proc isn't mounted - and I need to leave. :(
[22:25] <codingfreak> @stsm: if u use alternate of course, not sure with destop cd
[22:25] <bigbrovar> losha: thanks (this is becoming quite a lesson need to hangout here more)
[22:25] <stsm> thanx
[22:26] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[22:26] <Mka> ubuntu_: disable anything in /etc/fstab except for the / and /proc entries by putting a # in front
[22:26] <Mka> oh now
[22:26] <Mka> what is this now?
[22:26] <LogicFan> fccf, thanks, i'll try googling some more.  I didn't know that .m4b chapters were stored in xml
[22:27] <Keiya> https://www.uww.edu/desire2learn/support/ldb/stuguide.html <- I hope none of my classes require that...
[22:27] <christophe_> it seems that someone broke the internet ^^
[22:27] <LinDrug> netsplit once again
[22:27] <tkmr> That's getting annoying
[22:28] <fccf> LogicFan: the chapter data is taken from the xml and encoded into the m4b as I understand it
[22:28] <LogicFan> fccf, yeah, trying to find more info on it
[22:29] <fccf> christophe_: It was you, you are the culprit ... I know it... It;s a conspiricy
[22:29] <kazagistar> I have never seen pidgin lag before, but that netsplit did it
[22:29] <grturner> kazagistar, you use pidgin for irc? how is it? i've always used xchat
[22:29] <abstrakt> grturner: pidgin sucks for irc :P
[22:30] <crescendo> pidgin's handling of IRC is horrible
[22:30] <LinDrug> I have never seen 1300 ppl joining a room in the same second ;)
[22:30] <abstrakt> only thing good about pidgin for IRC is the automatic nick coloring
[22:30] <grturner> good, now i know i'm not missing anything
[22:30] <kazagistar> it works just fine for me
[22:30] <abstrakt> but X-Chat has a nick colorizing script anyway
[22:30] <kazagistar> mostly, it keeps everything organized and super simple
[22:30] <abstrakt> actually nick colorization is built in with X-Chat
[22:30] <zen|tao> irssi ftw :)
[22:31] <abstrakt> but there is a "better color algorithm" python script
[22:31] <abstrakt> bah, irssi is just for ppl who think they're l33t
[22:31] <grturner> zen|tao, ive just never liked irssi
[22:31] <abstrakt> i love terminal, but give me a GUI anyday
[22:31] <abstrakt> only good thing about irssi is ability to attach/detach with instances of screen
[22:32] <abstrakt> so that u can stay on IRC from ur server but not suck down the bandwidth on ur machine unless ur actually using it
[22:32] <crescendo> is there any way to safely terminate an apt-get upgrade?
[22:32] <kazagistar> anyways... my usb flash drive does to automatically pop up like it used to; how do I fix this?
[22:33] <kazagistar> crescendo: yes if you are still downloading
[22:33] <fccf> crescendo: if it is still downloading Ctrl-C if it has already started installing .. it may break things
[22:34] <codingfreak> cu all
[22:35] <crescendo> fccf, kazagistar - nope, I appended "&" to the command, and it's in a chroot
[22:35] <maxflax> How do one fix a broken Networkmanager.. it won't see my wifi anymore
[22:35] <grturner> maxflax, sudo service NetworkManager restart
[22:35] <fccf> crescendo: sudo pkill apt-get
[22:36] <andreo> while updating to ubuntu 9.10 i experienced a problem with xserver-xorg
[22:36] <allanon_> hmm seems 'netcat 127.0.0.1 25' does the same.. nothing :(
[22:36] <guntbert> !9.10 | andreo
[22:36] <crescendo> fccf, will that break my system if it happens to have started installing things?
[22:36] <fccf> crescendo: probably
[22:37] <kazagistar> crescendo: but is is often fixable?
[22:37] <kazagistar> crescendo: I would avoid it, though
[22:37] <crescendo> Is there any way to hop back in to a "&"-ed command?
[22:37] <maxflax> grturner - reboot wont even work.. upgraded and now it can't manage my wifi, but the wifi card is up and running
[22:37] <fccf> crescendo: doing & is probably a bad idea for run commands that you would normally want to see the output of
[22:37] <grturner> are you in 9.10?
[22:37] <crescendo> fccf, yeah, wish I'd have thought of that earlier. :P
[22:38] <kazagistar> crescendo: learn to use screen, it is your friend
[22:38] <Sevsev> Oh crap
[22:38] <kazagistar> instead of & you can detach and re-attach screens
[22:38] <crescendo> kazagistar, that helps me in the future, but not now. :(
[22:38] <Sevsev> I'm confused
[22:38] <crescendo> yeah, I'll do that next time.
[22:38] <suffe> crescendo: fg
[22:39] <crescendo> suffe, oooh, that did something. what now?
[22:39] <suffe> crescendo: well, hopefully it took you to your program
[22:39] <kazagistar> is it installing, or downloading?
[22:39] <suffe> crescendo: but like someone said, from now on, use screen =)
[22:40] <crescendo> I think I aborted it. It was probably waiting for my typing of "yes", which since I used &, I couldn't do. :)
[22:40] <crescendo> day = saved
[22:40] <crescendo> Thanks. :)
[22:40] <suffe> crescendo: no problem
[22:41] <crescendo> What is the current method for generating an initramfs image for a LUKS-encrypted root partition?
[22:42] <andrea__> sera a tutti
[22:42] <andrea__> come va=
[22:43] <clusty> hey
[22:44] <clusty> is there still some nice cpmfy menu to share stuff using samba?
[22:45] <anrahman> does anyone know how i can get a list of all of the extensions in a particular directory?
[22:46] <ArasTa> guys..how to connect to an xp (guest) installed on Vbox 3.x trought my Ubuntu 9.04
[22:46] <ArasTa> ?
[22:47] <michal__> pl
[22:48] <ArasTa> guys..how to connect to an xp (guest) installed on Vbox 3.x trought my Ubuntu 9.04
[22:49] <sebsebseb> ArasTa: Just load up the VM?
[22:49] <ArasTa> sebsebseb, what do u mean man ?
[22:49] <sebsebseb> ArasTa: ok what do  you mean by connect to it?
[22:50] <suffe> arasta: how are you running it? on your desktop or a server? vnc or not?
[22:51] <ArasTa> i want to ping from Ubuntu to Windows XP so the ping work fine
[22:51] <skath_> I want my machine to use a mirror in sources.list.d as its primary source for new packages, and hit the official sources in sources.list only if a package is not available on the mirror (the mirror falls behind often).  My system prefers sources.list over sources.list.d/mirror.list, is there a way to change the preference?
[22:53] <BrianV> We really need to add an IRC client to the live CD
[22:53] <BrianV> Anyways, what's the deal with the repos being so slow today?
[22:54] <LjL> !slow
[22:54] <LjL> BrianV: doesn't the live cd have pidgin?
[22:54] <kyja> are the repositories having issues or something? I have been trying to get packages for hours now with no luck.
[22:54] <LjL> kyja: see just above
[22:54] <alokito> LjL: empathy is default in karmic
[22:54] <LjL> alokito: no irc in empathy?
[22:55] <BrianV> LjL: Err, that's true. But pidgin is a poor client. Great for IM, but no good for IRC
[22:55] <alokito> LjL: dont know, xchat is installed by default i think
[22:55] <BrianV> same goes for empathy
[22:55] <LjL> BrianV: good enough to join here and ask a question, i s'pose
[22:55] <kyja> ah seems laggy. eh must be alot of us on there heels. ok guess it will resolve
[22:55] <ArasTa> sebsebseb, my XP is installed on VBOX
[22:55] <BrianV> LjL: no - I installed chatzilla :p
[22:56] <BrianV> LjL: Anyways, thanks for pointing me to the slow repo information
[22:56] <ArasTa> sebsebseb, i want to ping from it to my Ubuntu..so the ping works fine
[22:56] <BrianV> how stable is the beta? I know, not for production usage... but realistically, how is it?
[22:57] <alokito> BrianV: very stable for me :)
[22:58] <zen|tao> alokito: How can you if it stable when it was only just released?
[22:58] <alokito> desktop effects are running very smoothly in both compiz and kwin, and I haven't got a single system crash since alpha6!
[22:58] <BrianV> alokito: I am thinking about reinstalling one of my work systems. Seems a waste to reinstall 9.04 with 9.10 just around the corner
[22:58] <alokito> zen|tao: Im using it since the alphas
[22:58] <sebsebseb> areay: not sure, and you can ask in #vbox for help with that
[22:58] <lucascastro> has someone already used moblock !?
[22:59] <arcsky> when i start my pc those always starts rpc.statd, portmap and exim4 how can i do so they dont start?
[23:00] <maxflax> Networkmanager wont manage my wifi.. it says.. (wlan0): deactivating device (reason: 2) ..
[23:00] <maxflax> Cant find what reason 2 means
[23:00] <Out_Cold> maxflax, i use wicd, it completely removes network manager..
[23:00] <Out_Cold> works imo much better
[23:01] <DigitalKiwi> wicd ftw
[23:01] <Out_Cold> :D
[23:01] <vaguerant> Officially the oldest and lamest problem in the book, but I'm having trouble with my Synaptics (brand) touchpad in Ubuntu. All the generic stuff works, edge scrolling, tapping, etc., but I can't figure out how to get circle scrolling (Synaptics dub it "Chiralmotion") working. I Googled it and there are a bunch of hits, but almost all for pre-Jaunty stuff, when xorg.conf was much longer than it was.
[23:01] <maxflax> Out_Cold - wicd didn't work on my comp.. and I didn't want to put my soul down to get it to work
[23:01] <Out_Cold> didn't work??
[23:02] <maxflax> I had the Networkmanager working.. but after upgrade it stopped
[23:02] <alokito> how to permanently hide the time list in quassel?
[23:02] <Out_Cold> you do know about the little arrows below the network name to set up encryption?
[23:02] <vaguerant> I did as suggested on the wiki and enabled SHMConfig and picked up gsynaptics, but none of the changes in gsynaptics do anything with regards to the behaviour of my mouse. They are getting stored somewhere though as they remain set in the app.
[23:02] <tomsdale> is today some sort of release day - ubuntu servers are really slow.
[23:03] <grturner> !slow | tomsdale
[23:03] <Out_Cold> lol
[23:03] <Out_Cold> i would torrent but the roomies are hogging bandwidth with the ps3s
[23:04] <dorgan> hello everyone
[23:04] <Defcon1> I am currently building a computer and have a question.  I have this mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135085 and this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115  I am connecting the front audio board stuff.  There are two connectors for the audio board one says HDAUDIO the other says AC'97, which should i use?
[23:04] <vaguerant> I can also verify that Ubuntu knows I have a Synaptics touchpad, xinput list shows "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"	id=5	[XExtensionPointer].
[23:04] <dorgan> i am trying to recover information from a drive using a live cd...but the drive was in a software raid one configuration so how do i mount it?
[23:04] <KFP> Defcon1: I'm not sure this is the right venue for that question.
[23:05] <gonzojive_> How do I figure out if my public key matches my private key in the .ssh directory?  I am having issues with the keys and I want to verify they are correct
[23:07] <starcannon> vaguerant I did a google, check this out for your multi touch problem http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2009/03/multi-touch-for-anyall-synaptics.html
[23:07] <gnathan87> hi, I've currently got a primary partition with vista on that I want to convert to an extended partition, i'm having a bit of trouble figuring out how to do this. I don't really want to reformat. Anyone know how?
[23:08] <dajhorn> dorgan: Do you have the `mdadm` program in your live environment?
[23:08] <dorgan> i just installed it but i am doing this remotely
[23:08] <Cerrdor> gnathan87, you can use fdisk
[23:09] <gnathan87> Cerrdor: thanks!
[23:09] <dorgan> dajhorn: I just installed it
[23:09] <dajhorn> dorgan: First, `sudo modprobe raid1`.
[23:09] <nullp0inter> hey everyone..i am trying to write a web interface for easy monitoring of my server...i already have a hard drive report, and a database report..any other command line reporting tools i could use that would be valuable?
[23:10] <dorgan> dajhorn: ok, next?
[23:10] <vaguerant> starcannon: That's new, I haven't seen that page before, but it doesn't look like it covers the circular scroll. Multitouch isn't what I'm after, the circular scrolling works like the wheel on an iPod. You draw circles on the touchpad and it scrolls down or up depending.
[23:10] <Mka> gonzojive_: maybe you need to deal with the "issues" you have on the keys the other way rather than fiddling with the private key
[23:10] <dajhorn> dajhorn: Run `lsmod` and check that it loaded.   Then `cat /etc/mdstat` and look for any complaints or errors.
[23:10] <starcannon> yeah, I read about the circular scroll thing on the intel website, not sure; I'll take a quick peek for that exact functionality, see if I can come up with a search result that you missed.
[23:11] <vaguerant> Thanks, I'd appreciate it.
[23:11] <dorgan> dajhorn: no such file or directory
[23:11] <starcannon> vaguerant check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=717457
[23:11] <dajhorn> dajhorn: My bad.  /proc/mdstat instead.
[23:12] <dajhorn> dorgan: My bad.  `cat /proc/mdstat` instead.  (Not etc.)
[23:12] <dustsnow> Who knows why the server is so slow that I can not update.
[23:12] <bastidrazor> !slow > dustsnow
[23:13] <dro> hey guys, just installed jaunty amd64 and have dhcp issues on eth0, I read about a lot of ppl with this problem, is there a patch or workaround? wireless works and am in the process of doing a dist-upgrade now
[23:13] <vaguerant> I saw that one, it seems like it's for an older version; my xorg.conf doesn't have anything in it about the touchpad/mouse so I wasn't sure if I could just add it in, since it seems to be getting its settings from elsewhere anyway.
[23:13] <dajhorn> dorgan: You should have a raid1 "personality" in that file.
[23:13] <dorgan> dajhorn: Personalities : [raid1]
[23:13] <dorgan> dajhorn: unused devices: <none>
[23:14] <starcannon> dro does that motherboard have 2 ethernet ports built in? If so, I got around the issue by using eth1(the second port)
[23:14] <dro> starcannon: nope unfortenly not
[23:14] <dorgan> dajhorn: what next?
[23:14] <dajhorn> dorgan: Next step is `sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdX /dev/sdY`.  Substitute sdX and sdY for your RAID-1 disks.
[23:14] <dro> starcannon: i am using the wireless right now but it's kinda slow
[23:14] <vaguerant> starcannon: I did just find something that might have me a little closer. I did a xinput list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" and there are settings for Circular Scrolling in there.
[23:14] <dro> starcannon: once you got all up to date, did that fix it?
[23:15] <dajhorn> dorgan:  Check /proc/partitions to get a list of disks and partitions.
[23:17] <starcannon> dro everything works here, I haven't checked eth0 though, so can't say for sure, eth1 worked, so I just left it.
[23:17] <dro> starcannon: interesting, i might just switch eth0 to eth1 lol
[23:17] <mgv1> im trying to use xchat with a proxy from here with no succsses http://aliveproxy.com/irc-proxy-list/
[23:17] <starcannon> vaguerant did that ubuntuforums.org post I send you help?
[23:17] <Xgates> I'm running Karmic and under Software Sources, community-maintained open source software (universe) is checked but when I do a search in Synpatic for either xchat or cheese nothing comes up
[23:18] <grturner> !9.10 | Xgates
[23:18] <vaguerant> Not quite, but I managed to get it working using the wiki on configuring input devices.
[23:18] <starcannon> dro, suppose it's worth a shot... not sure; its a bit of open the door close the door and the broken car starts kinda thing, worked for me basically, though I have 2 ethernet ports so wth, give it a shot, you can allways change it back if it don't work or causes other issues
[23:18] <Xgates> grturner: no worries I've been running Linux along time, just not a Ubuntu user is all...
[23:18] <vaguerant> The fine control for it isn't great, but hopefully I can figure that out myself. Thanks for all the help.
[23:19] <Dekko> What is this about 'Karmic will break'?
[23:19] <CokeNCode> hey guys, i've got a problem. well, two. How do I know what my pen drive is detected as ... be it sda or sda 1 etc
[23:19] <grturner> Dekko, it's still beta, theres going to be problems
[23:19] <CokeNCode> i have it plugged in now, where do i check to see what it is ?
[23:19] <Dekko> grturner: ah okay but I will wait until final comes out.
[23:19] <starcannon> vaguerant well done, it would be nice if there were better touchpad gui configurators; I might try to tackle something like that this winter, or I might not, depends on how lazy I feel lol
[23:19] <zen|tao> Dekko: The good news is you get to keep both pieces :)
[23:20] <starcannon> Dekko Karmic is Beta at the moment, Beta WILL break.
[23:20] <Dekko> Do you know if it will be trouble free upgrading current install to karmic final when released.
[23:20] <Dekko> Running Jaunty now.
[23:20] <CydeSwype> Dekko, should be
[23:20] <Keiya> Hey, is the Sugar in apt broken/
[23:21] <Keiya> s/\//?/
[23:21] <Dekko> CydeSwype: I've been thinking what about the repositories that are set for jaunty now?
[23:21] <dajhorn> CokeNCode: Quick and dirty, run `dmesg` at a prompt and look at the last line.
[23:21] <CokeNCode> where is this darn thing mounted ... hmmmm
[23:21] <CydeSwype> Dekko, I'm in karmic now and while it's mostly stable there's still the usual problems with audio, compiz and various other things
[23:21] <mgv1> there is a way to fastly accsess wiktionary.org?
[23:21] <CokeNCode> thanks dajhorn
[23:21] <starcannon> Dekko, if this is your production/only computer, don't do it unless you have time/patience to deal with it, thats my advice, which is generally not worth much ;P
[23:21] <CokeNCode> it's sdb, i checked partition manager
[23:21] <sebsebseb> Dekko: yes that should go fine upgrading to the final,  however you might want to re install instead :)   assuming your on Ext3, since no Ext4 on an upgrade.   Or when the time comes can do an Ext3 to Ext4 conversion, however  I don't think  quite get the proper thing when doing that.
[23:21] <CokeNCode> now, my other problem, how do i find out where it's mounted ?
[23:21] <dajhorn> CokeNCode: You can also use the disk editor, which is somewhere under the System menu.
[23:21] <CydeSwype> Dekko, the repos you've added will need to be changed, but the base ones will switch as part of the upgrade
[23:22] <Dekko> reinstall = pain in ass due to all the tweaks and stuff I've done to get it to work as I want it.
[23:22] <starcannon> Doh, sorry Dekko I misunderstood, I thought you meant going from Karmic Beta to Karmic Release, I recommend waiting for release unless you wanna help test Beta
[23:22] <dajhorn> CokeNCode: If your Ubuntu desktop is sensible, then it will be in Nautilus, and it will be mounted under the /media directory.
[23:22] <CydeSwype> sebsebseb makes a good point re: ext4.  it's not a HUGE difference between ext3 and ext4, but if you want to play with ext4, and you're currently on ext3 you'll likely have to reinstall
[23:22] <Dekko> starcannon okay I was talking about FINAL when that comes out - going from Jaunty to Karmic.
[23:22] <dajhorn> CokeNCode: Open a file manager and look in the left-pane for something that reads like "My Pen Drive".
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Dekko: The main thing with Ext4 is having /  with that file system, so  get the 10 seconds or so boot up,  really fast shut down, and  the disk check done in a few seconds or so after 23 or so boots.
[23:23] <CokeNCode> dajhorn: yeh, i see that. But I wanna access it from the console
[23:23] <CokeNCode> in fact, screw that ... what's the command to open file manager ... maybe if i run that as root ... i can do what i want
[23:23] <starcannon> Dekko, ah, yeah, well if things go as planned, it should be a smooth transition; if your concerned, it may be worth waiting a week and watching the ubuntuforums.org threads, and see what if any hurdles you may have to hop
[23:23] <dajhorn> CokeNCode:  `cd /media/MyPenDrive`.
[23:23] <vaguerant> starcannon: Sounds interesting if it happens. I did get gsynaptics, but it just didn't do anything re: modifying anything that actually did anything.
[23:23] <CokeNCode> thanks dajhorn, you're awesome ...
[23:23] <dajhorn> CokeNCode: Np.
[23:23] <Dekko> sebsebseb... we'll see how I do.....:) I love Linux though, came from Mac OS X (Hackintosh) to Linux which made the transition easier.
[23:24] <starcannon> vaguerant yeah gsynaptics needs more options, I think of it as pretty much an on/off switch myself
[23:24] <The_Dead_91> hi guys.. a question: i need to install linux on a pc but only the terminal interface... do you think it's best debian or ubuntu to do it?
[23:24] <sebsebseb> !love >  Dekko
[23:24] <starcannon> The_Dead_91 Debian if you know how, Ubuntu if you don't
[23:25] <Dekko> sebsebseb: thats nice.............
[23:25] <Dekko> :D
[23:25] <CydeSwype> have you guys seen bumptop yet?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Dekko: :)
[23:25] <starcannon> The_Dead_91 check out Ubuntu Alternate Install iso if your talking about running headless, its got what you need.
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Dekko: quite a few Mac users go  to  Ubuntu,  and then think  Ubuntu is better than Mac OS X
[23:25] <g0tcha> hey guys, is vmware tools work in ubuntu 9.04?
[23:25] <CydeSwype> i just noticed they're "measuring demand" for a linux version
[23:26] <sebsebseb> g0tcha: I guess so, but for virtualization  Virtaulbox is usually recommended
[23:26] <starcannon> later all, I'm off to play with a clients network.
[23:26] <The_Dead_91> starcanno : i thought so... but i didn't do it with debian... what release i've to download? the minimum?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> g0tcha: in here
[23:26] <CokeNCode> now, guys, what do i edit in /boot/grub/menu.lst to force it to look for sdb instead of the hard drive
[23:26] <maxflax> Networkmanager won't manage my wifi.. says NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): deactivating device (reason: 2). what does it mean and how do I fix it
[23:26] <CydeSwype> g0tcha, not sure about vmware, but i like virtualbox
[23:26] <CokeNCode> i see a million lines here references sda
[23:26] <Dekko> sebsebseb: I am a Windows user basically, then I tried Hackintoshin' and loved it, THEN I decided to try Linux AGAIN for the umphtheenth time.... and this time with Jaunty it just clicked.
[23:26] <sebsebseb> g0tcha: plus Virtualbox can use VMware VMDK files
[23:26] <Dekko> So multibooting Win7/OS X Leopard 10.5.8 and Ubuntu Linux now :D
[23:26] <g0tcha> sebastien, it does?
[23:27] <CokeNCode> alright ... let's try this again
[23:27] <sebsebseb> gonzojive_: not sure,  it's been quite a while since I used any VMware products, because of Virtualbox :)
[23:27] <CokeNCode> brb guys ...
[23:27] <Raenir> yo I have a windows Vista disk that I want to install but wont boot, is there a way within Ubuntu I can try installing it? WINE says I didnt have enough space or something
[23:27] <CydeSwype> virtualbox ftw
[23:27] <Guest41860> hi
[23:27] <Guest41860> someone here ever use an usb tuner tv stick (tetratec t3) ?
[23:28] <TLF> hello
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Dekko: Hackintosh isn't properly legal if legal at all really by the way
[23:28] <CydeSwype> Raenir, are you trying to install on a virtual machine?  you can use virtualbox to do that
[23:28] <TLF> it's archive.ubuntu.org facing problems?
[23:28] <dajhorn> The only problem with VirtualBox is the disk manager.
[23:28] <zen|tao> !hi | TLF
[23:28] <Raenir> virtual box work on Ubuntu?
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Raenir: yes
[23:28] <Dekko> sebsebseb: I don't really care about the legality of it - I just enjoy exploring and learning new stuff.
[23:28] <CydeSwype> Raenir, yes
[23:28] <bastidrazor> !slow > TLF
[23:28] <Raenir> can I apt-get it?
[23:29] <treyh> i just installed jaunty amd64, and now can't get dhcp to work on eth0 but can on wlan0, whats going on?
[23:29] <TLF> thanks, bastidrazor
[23:29] <CydeSwype> Raenir, yes, it's in the base repos
[23:29] <sebsebseb> Raenir: only the open source version, which lacks USB support, but you  can get the other version for Linux hosts http://www.virtualbox.org  ,but then USB needs setting up as well #vbox for help with that
[23:29] <TLF> goodbye
[23:29] <CydeSwype> sebsebseb: good point
[23:29] <bastidrazor> TLF: earlier today i had the same issues. after the hype cools down speeds will pick up.
[23:30] <OzFalcon> Are there any official cd/case cover graphics to download & print for your burnt iso's?
[23:30] <Raenir> basicially I have a burned copy of Vista but for some reason it wont boot up, but works from the cd rom drive otherwise. I'm trying to install it somehow
[23:31] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | Raenir
[23:31] <Raenir> This is an ubuntu question
[23:31] <Raenir> I am trying to install Vista from within Ubuntu without booting from the disk
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Raenir: ok you can't install it from inside Ubuntu
[23:32] <grturner> on virtualbox?
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Raenir: with the exception of a virtual machine
[23:32] <grigris> hi with wha command i make upgrade to 9.10 version?
[23:32] <sebsebseb> grigris: don't do it yet, the final isn't out yet, that's October 29th
[23:32] <Raenir> installing virtualbox right now
[23:32] <grigris> no problem for me man
[23:32] <LjL> grigris: ask in #ubuntu+1 - this channel doesn't cover unstable versions
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Raenir: also you will need enough RAM
[23:32] <Raenir> 4 gigs
[23:33] <Raenir> i have
[23:33] <sebsebseb> Raenir: and I think that some OEM  versions of  Windows won't work in a virtual machine
[23:33] <maxflax> Networkmanager won't manage my wifi.. says NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): deactivating device (reason: 2). what does it mean and how do I fix it
[23:33] <sanchiro> is is possible to burn a 7.8 gb .iso to two 4.4 gb blank dvd discs? Can any burner split up the .iso between two discs? The .iso is for a dual layer burner, but mine is single layer
[23:33] <crespo> guys need help
[23:33] <Raenir> is there a program I can find for Ubuntu that burns bootable ISO images?
[23:33] <crespo> http://pastebin.com/m296a1ece
[23:34] <erUSUL> !burniso | Raenir
[23:34] <LjL> crespo: tried #c++? this channel is about Ubuntu
[23:34] <OzFalcon> are there nvidia binaries available for 9.10 ?
[23:34] <erUSUL> !karmic | OzFalcon
[23:35] <OzFalcon> answer: No
[23:36] <OzFalcon> Are there any official cd/case cover graphics to download & print for your burnt iso's......?
[23:36] <Raenir> after installing something in Ubuntu where do I look to turn it on?
[23:37] <sebsebseb> crespo: what's your problem
[23:37] <sebsebseb> crespo: I don't want to go on a pastebin link   to find out
[23:37] <erUSUL> Raenir: depends on what you installed
[23:37] <ultem> jolly good evening
[23:37] <[fade]> pozdrav zvacet
[23:37] <Raenir> just installed VirtualBox
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Raenir: ok good
[23:37] <erUSUL> Raenir: aplications>system tools ??
[23:38] <zvacet> pozdrav da li te poznam
[23:38] <mgv1> im trying to use xchat with a proxy from here with no succsses http://aliveproxy.com/irc-proxy-list/
[23:38] <ortsvorsteher> maxflax: do you use wicd?
[23:38] <The_Dead_91> have anyone here ever try the ShipIt servi of Ubuntu? I can't understand if ship cost belong to me...(sorry, I'm italian and i didn't can make the sentence clearer :P )
[23:38] <Raenir> I dont see a Systems Tools button
[23:38] <liquidrid> hey guys, trying to install 9.04 but i don't want to use the whole disk, can anyone recommend partition sizes for /, swap, /home etc.. if i'd like the total partition to be 50gigs?
[23:38] <erUSUL> The_Dead_91: no; it is totally free
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[23:39] <ortsvorsteher> maxflax: which ubuntu do you run?
[23:39] <erUSUL> Raenir: my menu is in spanish so it may be a bit different
 9.10
[23:39] <[fade]> des [Nikola-93]
[23:39] <erUSUL> Raenir: and it is not a button is a menu
[23:39] <Raenir> menu whatever its not there
[23:39] <ortsvorsteher> maxflax: so try in #ubuntu+1
[23:39] <[Nikola-93]> hello [fade] :)
[23:40] <The_Dead_91> erUSUL : who pay trade costs? Canonical do?
[23:40] <erUSUL> The_Dead_91: yes
 well, nobody there knowing about that stuff aparently
[23:40] <OzFalcon> liquidrid, set your swap size to double your ram. A pretty full desktop install will set you back 4gb so allocate min of 8 for that. and Whatever else you want for home.
[23:40] <Raenir> I have the following under Applications: Accessories, Games, Graphics, Internet, Sound & Video, Wine
[23:40] <Hadi> !grub hadi
[23:40] <ortsvorsteher> maxflax: also i dont know how to help in 9.10...
[23:40] <Hadi> !grub
[23:41] <liquidrid> OzFalcon 8gigs for / right?
[23:41] <Max_> how can I access old Ubuntu distro repositories?
[23:41] <thedude1> how can i make this permanent, "iw reg set VE" which changes the wireless region from US to Venezuela, under archlinux theres a config file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ but ubuntu got nothing
[23:41] <OzFalcon> liquidrid, yes.
[23:41] <The_Dead_91> erUSUL : thanks boy, since when i discovered that service i'm asking the same question to myself :P
[23:41] <klaus> hi, kann somebody help me with this problem? -> http://www.laura-ich-hasse-dich.net/?uid=6399
 well, I think I might have solved it know thou
[23:41] <liquidrid> OzFalcon awesome, thanks
[23:41] <[Nikola-93]> But... if you have more than 2 gigs of RAM, actually you would not need swap almost anytime so... 2 gigs for /swap is enough AFAIK
[23:41] <{newbie}> hello, does anyone knows how to get a barebones ubuntu install?
[23:41] <ortsvorsteher> ok
[23:41] <mgv1> im trying to register jabber with no succsess - what can it be?
[23:41] <mgv1> there is a way to fastly accsess wiktionary.org?
[23:42] <erUSUL> The_Dead_91: no problem :)
 where can I disable the killswitch for wlan
[23:42] <Raenir> Okay if I type VirtualBox in the terminal it starts it
[23:42] <Raenir> but I wouldve prefered an icon
[23:42] <[fade]> make an icon
[23:43] <Raenir> I cant find its exe thingy
[23:43] <ortsvorsteher> maxflax: in which network manager? in wicd?
[23:43] <[Nikola-93]> launcher*
[23:43] <[fade]> theres no exe thing, kde or gnome ?
[23:43] <Raenir> Ubuntu im in
[23:43] <fccf> !minimal | {newbie}
[23:43] <thedude1> how can i make this permanent, "iw reg set VE" which changes the wireless region from US to Venezuela, under archlinux theres a config file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ but ubuntu got nothing
[23:43] <jonsol> Raenir: Lord all mighty.
[23:43] <fccf> !repeat | thedude1
[23:44] <{newbie}> fccf: thanks I just needed a minimal image to do some kernel hacking :)
[23:44] <[fade]> set it to execute on startupe
 in NetworkManager
[23:44] <Raenir> jonsol: yo?
[23:44] <[fade]> ad it to /etc/init.d/rc
[23:45] <fccf> Raenir: why don't you just create a launcher on your desktop (right click on desktop)
[23:45] <ortsvorsteher> maxflax: is the new network manager different to the one in 9.04?
[23:45] <Raenir> Aha
 newer version
[23:45] <[Nikola-93]> with working WPA and WEP ?!
[23:45] <Raenir> i dont know which icon within the VirtualBox directory is the starting one
[23:45] <[fade]> it works with me on wpa psk2 on 9.04
[23:45] <jonsol> WPA and WEP works perfectly in 9.04
[23:46] <cfedde> is there any debate about which video card/driver is better for a new  general desk top environment?
[23:46] <ortsvorsteher> maxflax: so as i didnt used it anytime, i am not able to help you, sorry.
[23:46] <OzFalcon> Anyone having trouble with updating open office/latest updates?
[23:46] <bastidrazor> Raenir: type which programname to find out the path for the program
[23:46] <jonsol> no
[23:46] <[fade]> i would always go with nvidia due to drivers being updated more than others
[23:46] <[Nikola-93]> umm i had terrible problems with wifi security on 9.04 so i had to install wicd
[23:46] <Turbolinux> Hello everyone. I am helping to father's Ubuntu using but he have problems with desktop manager. Can you recommend a theme for easy use like Windows style?
[23:46] <Raenir> yay
[23:46] <mark_> fade@ i agree also
[23:46] <[fade]> you couldnt steal neighbours wifi from hg520`s ? :)
[23:47] <ortsvorsteher> Turbolinux: may you use the kde version...
[23:47] <OzFalcon> ortsvorsteher, Wouldn't that make thinks harder?
[23:47] <liquidrid> i appreciate the fact that every time i come to this channel, someone helps me out, props to all of oyu
[23:47] <liquidrid> you*
[23:47] <[fade]> donate :)
[23:47] <bastidrazor> !theme > Turbolinux
[23:47] <mark_> !theme
[23:48] <ortsvorsteher> OzFalcon: if he comes from windows, i dont think so
[23:48] <_Tristan> !pulseaudio
[23:48] <[Nikola-93]> Turbolinux: GDM is quite simple. themes are here for making the windows feeling :)
[23:48] <flypp> nas a todos
 but how to disable the rfkill module should be generic
[23:48] <flypp> hi all
[23:48] <ortsvorsteher> maxflax: i dont know... i use wicd on my 8.04 lts laptop now
[23:48] <maxflax> How do I disable the rfkill module?
[23:49] <fccf> !blacklist | maxflax ortsvorsteher
[23:49] <jonsol> maxflax: rtfm? JFGI?
[23:49] <ortsvorsteher> fccf: thx, but i wont to blacklist anything at the moment
[23:49] <flypp> soy_el_dip???
[23:49] <Raenir> anyone know the best way to make a bootable OS DVD with an ISO in Ubuntu?
[23:49] <OzFalcon> ortsvorsteher, Dunno, Found the other one to be more accepted.
[23:50] <hvgotcodes> how do i tell which kernel version the latest ati driver requieres?
[23:50] <mgv1> where are the spell check folders for deleting one of the spell checkers?
[23:50] <[Nikola-93]> Raenir: k3b?!
[23:50] <ortsvorsteher> OzFalcon: ok...
[23:50] <[Nikola-93]> Brassero?!
[23:50] <fccf> Raenir: same way you would burn a CD iso ... 700megs burns easily on a DVD
[23:50] <ciderpunx> brasero
[23:50] <Raenir> im burning an iso of vista
[23:50] <Raenir> > 2 gb
[23:50] <[Nikola-93]> the same way
[23:50] <ciderpunx> Raenir I'm sorry.
[23:50] <ciderpunx> *heh*
[23:50] <fccf> Raenir: I use deepburner in vista for iso's
[23:51] <OzFalcon> Raenir, What OS do you want to boot?
[23:51] <Raenir> I want to make a disk of Vista to boot from, I only have Ubuntu installed
[23:51] <tryggvib> I bought a domain to access my computer (a ubuntu server) but when I access it from my LAN (through the domain) I always get forwarded to the router's login... can anyone help me?
[23:51] <Raenir> so I need a Ubuntu DVD burner program
[23:51] <[Nikola-93]> Wait... you are burning the Vista install CD and you want to do that under ubuntu?!
[23:51] <Mka> Raenir: just use brasero or k3b
[23:51] <[Nikola-93]> k3b or brasero
[23:51] <[fade]> give more info tryggvib
[23:52] <zvacet> Raenir :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[23:52] <jonsol> cdrecorder
[23:52] <[fade]> how do you access it tryggvib , ssh, vnc ?
[23:52] <Raenir> alrighty braseo or k3b, do I need to check a special box for "bootable cd/dvd"?
[23:52] <OzFalcon> Raenir, Perhaps you could use an existing Vista boot iso, And Edit it with some sort of iso editor. ]
[23:52] <Mka> Raenir: you dont even need to read much about this, just burn the DVD
[23:52] <mark_> tryggvib sometimes it shows the router locally but apache to the world
[23:52] <hvgotcodes> how do i tell which kernel version the latest ati driver requieres?  Is there a PPA for the latest?
[23:52] <[Nikola-93]> Raenir: no, only to burn the ISO.
[23:52] <Merinco> hey folks need some vpn help
[23:52] <Raenir> k using brasero
[23:52] <[fade]> just ask
[23:52] <flypp> the boot feature is included in the iso image Raenir. Just burn it with Brasero or k3b
[23:52] <Raenir> moment of truth...
[23:53] <[Nikola-93]> lol
[23:53] <Merinco> pinging the server to connect to gives destination unreachable
[23:53] <zvacet> Raenir : select burn image
[23:53] <dragon> how can i restore a file from the repos?
[23:53] <Raenir> i did the right click burn image to dvd method I think
[23:53] <[fade]> tell me which protocol you are trying ?
[23:53] <dragon> !who | [fade]
[23:53] <Merinco> it's a windows vpn unfortunately ;)
[23:53] <Merinco> trying with pptp
[23:53] <Raenir> sigh 6 minutes to create a checksum
[23:54] <[fade]> Merinco i set that up on slackware 1 yr ago, it was hard, but it can work
[23:54] <dragon> !who | Merinco
[23:54] <[fade]> Merinco what software you are using, i advise using kvpnc
[23:54] <Merinco> ubuntu here
[23:54] <tryggvib> [fade]: I put up a web server on the domain www.example.com which I can access from school, but when I try to access the server www.example.com from home (the server is sitting in my kitchen) it routes me to the login of the router (I can access it through the LAN address but that means extra config for apache)
[23:54] <Raenir> I would forgo Vista and stick with Ubuntu but one of my games doesnt work properly over multiplayer using WINE for some reason
[23:54] <dragon> !wine | Raenir
[23:54] <[Nikola-93]> and the reason is punkbuster
[23:54] <[fade]> Raenir check winehq.org/appdb for more info about the game
[23:55] <[fade]> maybe it can be fixed
[23:55] <mark_> tryggvib:  This is normal, you have to type localhost on your web browser to see it
[23:55] <Merinco> fade: yea tried that before but will try again....
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[23:55] <hvgotcodes> how do i tell which kernel version the latest ati driver requieres?  Is there a PPA for the latest?  Pretty please with sugar on top...
[23:55] <dragon> what's the command to restore a file's original state from the repos?
[23:55] <zvacet> !vm | Raenir
[23:55] <dragon> ActionParsnip: sup
[23:55] <[fade]> Merinco private msg
[23:55] <Merinco> fade: at the moment i'm just trying with the general network manager with ubuntu
[23:55] <mgv1> where are the spell check folders - i want to delete one of the spell checkers?
[23:56] <Raenir> http://www.winehq.org/appdb is a 404 error
[23:56] <tryggvib> mark_: can't I put up a local dns server or something to "fake" it
[23:56] <[fade]> i misspeled then
[23:56] <[Nikola-93]> Raenir: google for winehq appdb
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Raenir: appdb.winehq.org
[23:56] <[fade]> Raenir http://appdb.winehq.org/
[23:56] <Raenir> ja, figures the one thing they didn't test was multiplayer, otherwise the game works fine
[23:56] <[fade]> Raenir what game?
[23:57] <Raenir> Victoria Revolutions by paradox interactive
[23:57] <mark_> tryggvib: Why would you want to when you can just type localhost/ to see the page 'live'
[23:57] <[Nikola-93]> any recommendation for electronic circuits simulator that works?
[23:57] <Raenir> niche game, you probly never heard of it
[23:57] <flypp> Reanir, you could set a partition with Vista just for gaming.
[23:57] <Raenir> my disk for it wont boot
[23:58] <Raenir> goshdarnit,
[23:58] <Raenir> errors while burning disk
[23:58] <dragon> I'm trying to restore my xorg.conf to its original state. What's the `dpkg` for doing that?
[23:58] <eee> HELLOHELLO
[23:58] <tryggvib> mark_: My apache is set up to serve www.example.com/special so it doesn't allow me to to access localhost/special
[23:58] <dragon> s/dpkg`/dpkg` command/
[23:58] <fccf> dragon: sudo dpkg-reconifgure -phigh xserver-xorg
[23:58] <soy_el_dip> hi
[23:58] <eee> I AM AIDS I HAS POOR VERY SERIOS
[23:59] <bazhang> eee, wrong channel
[23:59] <eee> HELP!
[23:59] <flypp> so??
[23:59] <bazhang> eee, this is ubuntu support
[23:59] <eee> BUT UBUNTI FOR HUMAN
[23:59] <ixian_> eee, sudo apt-get remove aids
[23:59] <flypp> lol
[23:59] <bazhang> eee, please stop
[23:59] <mark_> tryggviv: What about <yourlocalipaddress>/special, mine for example would be 192.168.2.2/special
[23:59] <eee> lol
[23:59] <tryggvib> mark_: plus I have to domains routing to different sites, one for my friends and one for my family (which I don't want to mix)
[23:59] <bazhang> ixian_, dont add to it