[00:06] <z0man> THEW
[00:06] <z0man> it was my DBUS setting for Konqourer's Kate application
[00:21] <fusion44> hi, i have some big problems with the latest kubuntu beta, is this the right channel for this kind of questions? :)
[00:24] <apol> what is it better? to install jaunty+4.3's ppa or karmic directly?
[00:27] <JontheEchidna> karmic is a bit wonky lately. I might wait until the final release for it
[00:27] <JontheEchidna> in the meantime the ppa should give a nice preview
[00:28] <apol> will it be painful to upgrade?
[00:28] <JontheEchidna> jaunty -> 4.3 ppa has been tested a lot so you shouldn't encounter errors
[00:29] <JontheEchidna> there are just a few components in karmic that have become broken as of late. KPackageKit for example doesn't work
[00:29] <apol> gh -.-
[00:29] <apol> well thanks ^^
[00:30] <JontheEchidna> yup, sure thing
[01:54] <DTsan> does anyone here use LogMeIn.com?
[02:31] <DTsan> does anyone here use LogMeIn.com?
[02:49] <rosco_y> Does anyone know of a machine virtualization software that supports 64 bit virtual machines?
[02:50] <DTsan> vmware does
[02:50] <DTsan> !vmware rosco_y
[02:50] <DTsan> hmm..wrong syntax
[02:50] <DTsan> !vmware
[02:50] <rosco_y> DTsan: is vmware fairly easy to use?
[02:50] <rosco_y> Thank you, I'll give it a trial :)
[02:58] <yaron> I could use help setting up my wifi
[02:59] <yaron> please?
[02:59] <DTsan> using 8.04 or 9.04?
[03:00] <yaron> 7.10 I believe.
[03:00] <DTsan> what wireless card are you using?
[03:01] <yaron> its an old d-link.  Give me a min to find the model
[03:01] <DTsan> pci, usb or pcmcia?
[03:01] <yaron> pci
[03:02] <DTsan> so internal card in desktop?
[03:02] <yaron> yes
[03:02] <DTsan> me thinks for a bit
[03:02]  * DTsan thinks for a bit
[03:03] <DTsan> got the model number?
[03:03] <yaron> still trying to find it online
[03:03] <DTsan> ok
[03:04] <yaron> is there a way to do it from the command line?
[03:05] <DTsan> to find the model? not that know of, easy way it to look at the card
[03:05] <DTsan> is*
[03:08] <yaron> my best guess is D-Link DWL-G520
[03:09] <DTsan> i know what you have to do, just don't remember where it is, on sec
[03:12] <DTsan> ok, since i can't find how do use the lunix drivers, you can do this https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/ndiswrapper.html
[03:13] <DTsan> allows you to use the windows drivers. worked great for me when i was on 7.10.
[03:13] <DTsan> tho 8.04 recognized my card automatically on install
[03:13] <yaron> ok I will give it a try.  Though I may just uprgrade, probably would be easier
[03:14] <DTsan> i would ubgrade first
[03:17] <yaron> is there an easy way to upgrade without losing anything?  Do I just download the cd burn it and follow the instructions?  Is there a better way?
[03:17] <DTsan> you can used Adept to upgrade
[03:17] <DTsan> use*
[03:18] <DTsan> i'm pretty sure you don't loose anything that way
[03:18] <donnybrasco> hey, all of a sudden I can't mount my external hd for some reason -  it says permission denied
[03:19] <yaron> just upgrade everything that is on the list and I should be on the latest release version?
[03:19] <DTsan> no, it will tell you after the update that an upgrade is avaliabl
[03:19] <donnybrasco> anyone know why this might be happening?
[03:19] <DTsan> then you tell it to upgrade
[03:20] <DTsan> donnybrasco: using kde3 or kde4?
[03:20] <donnybrasco> I'm on hardy
[03:20] <donnybrasco> kde3
[03:20] <DTsan> have it pluged in now?
[03:20] <donnybrasco> yep
[03:20] <DTsan> got to System Settings > Advanced > Disk and file systems
[03:21] <donnybrasco> k
[03:21] <donnybrasco> it's disabled
[03:21] <bob_> hi, got a question using Kpackage kit :i keep getting You do not have the necessary privileges to perform this action.on 9.10
[03:21] <donnybrasco> why would this happen?
[03:22] <DTsan> open up admin mode
[03:22] <DTsan> click on the drive, then click modify
[03:22] <donnybrasco> yeah - it's enabled now
[03:22] <donnybrasco> do you know why this would have happened?
[03:23] <DTsan> maybe, do you have "enable at start up" selected?
[03:24] <donnybrasco> yes
[03:24] <DTsan> ok, that are your mount permissions?
[03:24] <DTsan> what*
[03:29] <donnybrasco> hey - sorry, had to deal with something
[03:29] <donnybrasco> root permissions were set, but I changed to any user
[03:29] <DTsan> that should fix it
[03:30] <DTsan> also: do you dual boot with windows?
[03:31] <donnybrasco> no, I don't
[03:31] <donnybrasco> **shudders
[03:32] <DTsan> ok, cause that can cause it too
[03:33] <donnybrasco> thanks alot for all your help
[03:34] <DTsan> np
[03:35] <naught101> should the battery monitor tell me how long my battery has left?
[03:36] <naught101> at the moment, it only tells me how much charge it has
[03:36] <albert> hi.
[03:36] <albert> anybody tried Kubuntu KarmikKoala already?
[03:36] <naught101> albert: yep
[03:37] <DTsan> naught101:  which version are you using?
[03:37] <albert> cool. how did it performs
[03:37] <albert> no, i just downloaded the beta
[03:37] <albert> and was wondering how stable it is
[03:37] <naught101> DTsan: karmic, plasma widget
[03:37] <albert> i guess it is not
[03:37] <naught101> albert: more stable than jaunty, for me :)
[03:37] <DTsan> ahh, i dunno. still on 8.04 on this comp
[03:38] <albert> really. well, thats encouraging
[03:38] <DTsan> can't use KDE4 cause it don't work with my gfx card
[03:38] <DTsan> and i don't have time to screw with it
[03:38] <naught101> ok, fair enough
[03:38] <albert> too bad, it is really pretty
[03:38] <DTsan> i had it on my new laptop, and had nothing but proplems
[03:38] <naught101> I disagree, I like kde3.x visuals much more
[03:38] <albert> ok. i guess im going to try it later
[03:38] <DTsan> me too
[03:39] <albert> humm.. i lik 4. better
[03:39] <albert> just a matter of tastes i guess
[03:39] <DTsan> uses too much resources just to exist
[03:39] <albert> yeah that may be
[03:39] <DTsan> the OS should not be taking up that much resources
[03:39] <DTsan> same reason i haet vista
[03:40] <albert> well, i dont think it takes that much :)
[03:40] <albert> i just can not work outside Linux so i can not compare
[03:40] <DTsan> take more than i think it should :P
[03:40] <albert> i havent use a windows since...  1992
[03:40] <albert> 1996
[03:40] <albert> :)
[03:40] <albert> so
[03:41] <DTsan> heh, i have to for work
[03:41] <albert> ok thanks
[03:41] <albert> right, the opposite for me
[03:41] <albert> cant work without linux
[03:42] <albert> ok. lets see, im gonna reboot with this 9.10
[03:42] <albert> later and thanks
[03:42] <DTsan> have fun
[03:43] <albert> :
[03:43] <albert> )
[04:14] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:26] <Mist_> How do I get any file I create under a certain directory to get group write access? Not just only owner group/write access that is.
[04:28] <Mist_> As it is now, when I create a file in a directory it will set permissions 755 on directory/file, How can I make it so it set 770 for instance?
[04:28] <Mist_> Is everyone sleeping? =/
[04:29] <snarkster1> have an issue with knetworkmanager it doesnt connect,
[04:29] <snarkster1> i apparantly upgraded to the latest kde and now it wont connect wirelessly
[04:29] <snarkster1> any fixes?
[04:30] <snarkster1> i have to have this machine back on wifi before monday as i use it at school
[04:33] <snarkster1> so no fixes
[04:35] <donnybrasco> hey, anyone know how I can set an application to autostart on bootup?
[04:35] <Shadz> hey all, quick question?
[04:35] <Shadz> does Vista's NTFS 3.1 cause problems in Kubuntu 8.04 ?
[04:35] <Shadz> and does 9.04 fix it?
[04:35] <donnybrasco> running hardy
[04:36] <Shadz> I can't seem to mount a Vista NTFS partition in 8.04
[04:37] <snarkster1> are you using ntfs-4g
[04:37] <snarkster1> 3g i mean
[04:38] <Shadz> yes
[04:38] <snarkster1> did you try to force mount it
[04:38] <Shadz> yup
[04:38] <Shadz> it gave me some input/output error
[04:38] <snarkster1> what does it tell you
[04:38] <Shadz> told me to run chkdsk...
[04:39] <snarkster1> maybe corrupt fs?
[04:39] <Shadz> and asked me whether or not it was using a RAID
[04:39] <Shadz> Vista boots the drive ok
[04:39] <snarkster1> is it encrypted?
[04:39] <Shadz> nop
[04:39] <Shadz> *nope
[04:39] <snarkster1> you sure?
[04:40] <snarkster1> thats one of the things we nix peeps cant do yet
[04:40] <Shadz> nah, i doubt its encrypted; Vista doesn't encrypt by default
[04:41] <snarkster1> hmm
[04:42] <snarkster1> kde 4.3.1 knetworkmanager not working.. any known fixes?
[04:43] <snarkster1> it just wont connect via wifi
[04:50] <dan__> i have a problem with apps
[04:50] <snarkster1> what apps
[04:51] <dan__> specifically pidgin
[04:51] <snarkster1> there are alot of apps
[04:51] <snarkster1> what about pidgin?
[04:51] <dan__> it exits randomly on it's own
[04:51] <snarkster1> what version do you have?
[04:51] <dan__> 2.5.8
[04:52] <dan__> and i have other problems but this one annoys me the most
[04:52] <snarkster1> ok there is a new version, please goto pidgin.im and click download it should automatically detect that you have ubuntu and explain the process of getting the newest 2.6.1 version
[04:52] <dan__> k, ill update
[04:53] <snarkster1> make sure you use sudo on the second entry
[04:55] <XDevHald> How do I remove the red line in Quassel IRC?
[04:55] <XDevHald> And the time stamps
[04:56] <snarkster1> i dont know i dont use quassel
[04:57] <snarkster1> i use pidgin
[04:57] <XDevHald> do they have xchat for Kubuntu?
[04:59] <snarkster1> im sure you can run xchat
[04:59] <XDevHald> Excellent. Thank you
[05:00] <snarkster1> ok good night
[05:04] <dan__> i have another problem where my screenlets just disappear after restarting or relogging
[05:05] <dan__> any fixes?
[05:08] <dan__> is anyone here?
[05:13] <dan__> are there fixes for disappearing screenlets after logging?
[05:18] <dan__> hello?
[05:50] <Gamarok__> hey guys
[06:15] <TechN9ne> hi i am right now SSH files froms from ipod to Kubuntu and want to know where the progress bar is, i see it for 2-3secs than goes and pretty sure its still transferring?
[06:16] <lizzzy> Anyone know why amarok won't play my music right? It was before but now it isn't
[06:17] <lizzzy> Is the amarok-kubuntu-pulseaudio bug been fixed?
[06:17] <lizzzy> Anyone?
[06:20] <lizzzy> .join #lau
[06:23] <Shalim> hi all
[06:26] <TechN9ne> hi i am right now SSH files froms from ipod to Kubuntu and want to know where the progress bar is, i see it for 2-3secs than goes and pretty sure its still transferring?
[07:07] <edward_> Just installed Kubuntu 9.04 and can't get themes working, anyone got a fix?
[07:16] <mphasis> Just installed Kubuntu 9.04 and I can't get themes working, anyone got a fix?
[07:24] <njathan> is there an official graphical FTP client that i can use with KDE?
[07:26] <mphasis> Just installed Kubuntu 9.04 and can't get themes going, anyone got a fix?
[07:27] <howitzer`> njathan: Dolphin does it quite well, also Konquerer. Most FTP-only programs I've seen for KDE are mostly outdated.. like KFTPgrabber.
[07:30] <njathan> howitzer`: well i am currently using gftp, which is quite decent. But i am looking for a  feature where i can "pause" a transfer. I presume dolphin being primarily a file manager, is going to be basic (i'll try it anyway). Any other ftp client that would give me a feature of pausing a transfer?
[07:32] <mphasis> filezilla?
[07:32] <mphasis> We've used that at LANs and it's been pretty good
[07:33] <mphasis> http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffilezilla-project.org%2F&ei=--_GSvSfEofKsQOdrNGhBQ&usg=AFQjCNFi0DpQ1I5V_nCUkxMoqvM1kA5XnA&sig2=Smlmsy8MmT4HCwFcR_2ATg
[07:33] <mphasis> lol, I would've given a nicer link, but I'm still getting used to Vimperator
[07:35] <howitzer`> njathan: Not sure which ones will allow that.. there's also FireFTP as an addon to Firefox, if you use that.
[07:36] <mphasis> Do you guys have any idea why my themes are only applying to my task pane and not my windows?
[07:37] <mphasis> If I right click on the desktop, I only get the task pane changed to the new theme, and I can't get anywhere with the desktop theme details in systems settings as apply is greyed out
[07:39] <mphasis> Ok, I'm just going to try using compiz instead ok Kwin, and we'll see how it goes
[08:43] <leanhack> YES
[08:44] <leanhack> HI
[08:44] <leanhack> IS SOMEONE THERE
[08:44] <leanhack> ¿?
[08:44] <leanhack> I DONT UNDERSTAND A FUCK
[08:45] <N0LLY> hello :D
[08:45] <leanhack> HI
[08:45] <leanhack> NOLLY
[08:45] <N0LLY> hi leanhack
[08:45] <leanhack> WHAT IS ALL ABAUT
[08:45] <N0LLY> what? here?
[08:45] <leanhack> TO KNOW PEOPLE¿?
[08:45] <leanhack> YES
[08:45] <leanhack> HERE
[08:45] <N0LLY> no I don`t think so
[08:46] <leanhack> TO WORK?
[08:46] <N0LLY> it`s if you have a problem, you just report it
[08:46] <leanhack> I DON KNOW HOW
[08:46] <leanhack> IAM NEWIE
[08:46] <N0LLY> no, if you`re having problems with your os, you just tell here...
[08:46] <leanhack> HHAAAAA
[08:47] <leanhack> HHOHOOOOO
[08:47] <leanhack> YES
[08:47] <N0LLY> ok?
[08:47] <leanhack> I UNDERSTAN
[08:47] <leanhack> THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE
[08:47] <leanhack> FOR THE LINUX COMUNITY
[08:47] <leanhack> JEJE
[08:47] <leanhack> THANK YOU
[08:47] <leanhack> NOLLY
[08:47] <FloodBotK1> leanhack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:49] <leanhack> OK
[08:49] <N0LLY> ok leanhack no problem... if you want to chat
[08:49] <leanhack> SCUSEMY
[08:49] <N0LLY> chat in #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:49] <leanhack> OK
[08:50] <N0LLY> #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:50] <leanhack> I WILL SERCH IT
[08:50] <N0LLY> /#kubuntu-offtopic
[08:50] <N0LLY> o
[08:50] <N0LLY> ok
[09:27] <w12345> hi
[09:28] <w12345> I formatted my new hd drive, but don't know how to access it in KDE
[09:32] <N0LLY> w12345: hello
[09:33] <w12345> hi N0LLY
[09:33] <N0LLY> you mean you don`t know how to mount?
[09:33] <w12345> N0LLY: I know how to mount it in the console.
[09:33] <w12345> but I want to avoid the terminal in KDE
[09:34] <w12345> I want to make it some me can access it without using sudo
[09:34] <N0LLY> ok, so you wish to mount in kde without using terminal?
[09:34] <N0LLY> well i mount hard-drives this way in kubuntu
[09:35] <N0LLY> I go to the desktop folder right>
[09:35] <N0LLY> ?
[09:35] <N0LLY> right click
[09:35] <N0LLY> folder view settings
[09:35] <N0LLY> then choose specify a folder
[09:35] <N0LLY> and a window opens
[09:35] <bat> Ciao a tutti
[09:36] <N0LLY> I select the hard-drive, enter the password, and MOUNTED !
[09:36] <bat> Come facci ad aprire pacchetti synaptic?
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[09:42] <stuart_> I have no sound in Karmic. Help!
[09:44] <N0LLY> Karmic support in #ubuntu+1 only...
[09:44] <DarkriftX> wtf are blocked updates and how do I unblock em?
[09:44] <stuart_> thanks Nolly
[09:44] <N0LLY> np
[09:45] <N0LLY> darkrift, are the blocked updates linux kernels?
[09:45] <DarkriftX> no, kdiamond-kde4 and plasma-widget-network-manager
[09:45] <DarkriftX> i seem to always have somethign different int here
[09:45] <DarkriftX> in there*
[09:47] <N0LLY> what if you try this
[09:47] <N0LLY> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:47] <DarkriftX> I just did that a few days ago
[09:47] <DarkriftX> its been happening every since
[09:47] <DarkriftX> wont another one take me to 9.10?
[09:47] <N0LLY> and this?
[09:47] <N0LLY> sudo aptitude update
[09:47] <N0LLY> sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[09:47] <leanhack> excusemy is my friend nolly over there
[09:47] <leanhack> ¿?
[09:47] <N0LLY> yes
[09:47] <leanhack> heheh
[09:48] <N0LLY> did it work?
[09:48] <leanhack> let go to other room
[09:48] <w12345> can I resice widgets ?
[09:48] <w12345> resize*
[09:48] <N0LLY> search that in google....
[09:48] <N0LLY> like this
[09:49] <N0LLY> resize widgets kubuntu
[09:49] <leanhack> yes its works
[09:49] <N0LLY> so wifi working now?
[09:49] <w12345> mhh
[09:49] <w12345> would be nice if the dophin window looks like the Desktop Folder widget
[09:50] <N0LLY> yeah :D
[09:50] <leanhack> not yet
[09:50] <leanhack> but my wifi card identificate the red
[09:50] <leanhack> web
[09:50] <leanhack> hehe
[09:50] <N0LLY> ok did youy try it?
[09:50] <leanhack> modem i mean
[09:50] <N0LLY> oh ok,
[09:51] <N0LLY> and is modem password protected?
[09:51] <leanhack> i have to configurate some thing and i will navigate by wi fi
[09:51] <leanhack> yes
[09:51] <N0LLY> ok
[09:51] <N0LLY> so install this ok?
[09:51] <leanhack> password protected
[09:51] <N0LLY> give me a second...
[09:52] <leanhack> ok
[09:52] <N0LLY> sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[09:52] <leanhack> ok
[09:52] <leanhack> thenks a lot
[09:52] <N0LLY> so wifi card working, but not connected to modem?
[09:53] <leanhack> yes
[09:53] <leanhack> rigth
[09:53] <N0LLY> ok great, that should fix the problem ;)
[09:53] <leanhack> ok
[09:53] <leanhack> done
[09:53] <N0LLY> if it doesn`t work immediately, try a restart ;)
[09:54] <N0LLY> i think it should work though
[09:54] <leanhack> i dont know how can i thenk you really
[09:54] <N0LLY> did it work?
[09:54] <leanhack> waith my a minute
[09:54] <N0LLY> ok
[09:54] <N0LLY> darkrift is that ok?
[09:56] <leanhack> darkrift? i dont know what is it
[09:56] <N0LLY> no no, that is a user
[09:56] <leanhack> hhooo
[09:56] <leanhack> excuse m
[09:56] <leanhack> ill restarter
[09:57] <leanhack> see you
[09:57] <N0LLY> ok however i will not be here
[09:57] <N0LLY> will you send me an e-mail
[09:57] <leanhack> ok
[09:57] <N0LLY> graygalea@hotmail.com
[09:57] <N0LLY> and tell me if it worked cause o have to go
[09:57] <leanhack> thenks
[09:57] <leanhack> ok
[09:57] <N0LLY> ok cya all
[09:57] <leanhack> ill write to you
[09:58] <N0LLY> yes I`ll appreciate
[09:58] <leanhack> bye
[09:58] <N0LLY> bye
[09:58] <leanhack> thenks a lot my friendly nolly
[09:59] <leanhack> hehe
[09:59] <leanhack> :)
[09:59] <N0LLY> ok no problem mate, just write me how it went....
[09:59] <leanhack> sure
[09:59] <leanhack> i will
[10:02] <Bouib> hello
[10:38] <eagles0513875> !remix
[10:58] <w12345> is it possible to have launchers on the desktop?
[11:03] <gigasoft> kubuntu vs ubuntu ?
[11:03] <James147> gigasoft: kubuntu comes with kde, ubuntu comes with gnome, try them both and decide which de you like
[11:04] <James147> w12345: application launchers? yes
[11:21] <hanshenrik> gigasoft: there's also rumoured that gnome uses more system resources, and Kubuntu is more fit for old computers :p
[11:23] <James147> hanshenrik: I wouldn't pay too much attention to rumours as I have also hear the exact opposite
[11:24] <baron86> i want to update to the latest KDE.. does anyone know which repositories to use and how to update?
[11:25] <James147> baron86: link to howto upgrade to kde4.3.1 is in the topic
[11:26] <James147> baron86: for jaunty atleast :)
[11:26] <hanshenrik> not running Kubuntu atm but doesn't the update-manager fix that?
[11:26] <ercan> will amarok 2.2 be backported to jaunty?
[11:26] <hanshenrik> apt-get update & apt-get upgrade          i'd think (sudo -i if access problems)
[11:27] <James147> ercan: I dont see why it wont be
[11:27] <baron86> i got the 4.3.1 .. however i dont have osme features that both kde 4.3.1 in gentoo and fedora have so i suppose i have sth like 4.3.1a and want to do some update.. if you get what i mean
[11:28] <James147> hanshenrik: rather tehn sudo -i you should do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:28] <ercan> james147: yeah, just it's usually done really quickly and haven't seen it yet.
[11:28] <James147> ercan: its only been a few days, give them a week or so
[11:28] <James147> ercan: I have seen a small delay before with amarok 2.1 I think
[11:28] <ercan> james147: yeah, fair enough.
[11:29] <hanshenrik> James147: wups, yeah xD
[11:29] <James147> ercan: they are also working hard on karmic :) and only have a month to finish that so they are very bussy atm
[11:30] <James147> baron86: what features are you missing?
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[11:30] <hanshenrik> 1iiiiisd
[11:30] <ikonia> hanshenrik: ?
[11:31] <hanshenrik> wups, sorry (cat ran over the keyboard :p)
[11:31] <baron86> for example I can only have color, picture or slideshow in the desktop
[11:31] <ikonia> no problem
[11:31] <James147> hanshenrik: lol
[11:31] <baron86> wherease in the kde  4.3.1 i have the solar system and the virus and some more!
[11:31] <James147> baron86: hmm, im running jaunty with 4.3.1 and have other others :S
[11:32] <baron86> more over the plasma logo is in 2 areas and dont have the Plasma Settings when i click on it
[11:32] <baron86> So what am i missing?
[11:32] <baron86> I got the karma koala.. 9.10
[11:33] <James147> baron86: your on karmic?
[11:33] <baron86> yeah but i dont think that affects kde
[11:33] <James147> baron86: hmm, my karmics missing them.
[11:34] <baron86> so what should i do?
[11:34] <James147> baron86: it can, kubuntu take the kde paskages and can change them slightly
[11:34] <hanshenrik> \\\\\\\\\\
[11:34] <hanshenrik> RRRRR
[11:34] <James147> baron86: for one you could try asking in #ubuntu+1 (its for karmic related issues)
[11:34] <hanshenrik> i think ill leave
[11:35] <baron86> i alreqady asked but no response..
[11:35] <marco> will there be backports fo kde 4.3.2 to jaunty ?
[11:35] <marco> the ppa used for 4.3.2 seems not to have any
[11:35] <baron86> Does anyone know if the bug for an extra virtual desktop still exist in 4.3.1 ?
[11:36] <marco> usually the devs are rocking fast with backports
[11:36] <baron86> when you have one activity per virtual desktop
[11:36] <James147> marco: kde 4.3.2 isent out yet
[11:39] <marco> you're right I must have mixed up some the announcements
[11:55]  * aboaboit says hello
[11:55] <aboaboit> got a problem with KDM not starting the session, after the last round of updates
[11:56] <aboaboit> i had a look at the bugs list but found no smoking gun
[11:56] <aboaboit> anyone willing to assist me in debugging the issue?
[11:57] <James147> aboaboit: is it installed?
[11:57] <aboaboit> James147: kdm, yes... it is able to start the failsafe session, just not kde
[12:00] <aboaboit> James147: i also tried renaming .kde/ and start with a clean profile but no go
[12:01] <James147> aboaboit: is kwin installed?
[12:02] <aboaboit> James147: yes, i can start it from xterm and the window decoration changes accordingly
[12:05] <James147> aboaboit: you could try creating a new user and see if it works for them
[12:05] <aboaboit> James147: going to try... i skipped that since i thought i could simulate that by cleaning the profile... hold on
[12:08] <aboaboit> James147: no go even with a new user... xsession-error has something about a kconf_update error
[12:11] <James147> aboaboit: sorry, not sure whats wrong :s
[12:11] <aboaboit> James147: me neither, thanks for trying, anyway
[12:35] <DexterF> hi
[12:36] <aboaboit>  James147: found the problem: kde-workspace was hosed...
[12:36] <DexterF> will kub 9.10 have a kde3 remix?
[12:51] <aboaboit> DexterF: not sure why you'd want that, but yes...https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[12:52] <Dragnslcr> aboaboit- that's for 9.04, not 9.10
[12:53] <ag> aptoncd work on  kubuntu???????????????????????????
[12:55] <slipi_> HI
[12:55] <ag> aptoncd work on  kubuntu???????????????????????????
[12:55] <slipi_> how can i get the version of my kernel in kubuntu 9.04 ?
[12:56] <aboaboit> DexterF: read carefully, at Long Term Support
[13:00] <ag> (12:53:12) ag: aptoncd work on  kubuntu???????????????????????????
[13:01] <Dragnslcr> slipi_- from Konsole, uname -a
[13:01] <gg_> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[13:03] <slipi_> dragnslcr - thanks that worked , i have a 2.6.28-11-generic
[13:04] <ag> (12:53:12) ag: aptoncd work on  kubuntu???????????????????????????
[13:04] <DexterF> aboaboit: why I want it: I've ssen KDE4, I think 4.3 still isn't too mature and it lacks certain functions I want plus to me the interface has featuritis and is overpacked with optical knickknack
[13:05] <DexterF> but thnaks for the info
[13:05] <slipi_> so i asume that kubuntu 9.04 exist in different versions of the kernel . if i have now this kernel , will it update automatically ? i ask cause i have a problem with wireless and woud need a complicated workaround  , that must be done after every upgrade of the kernel new
[13:06] <aboaboit> DexterF: can't speak for the features you miss, but the bells and whistles can be disabled or reduced. anyhow, looks like you'll have it
[13:08] <Dragnslcr> slipi_- a patched version of the kernel is released when there's a critical bug or security issue. The most recent kernel for 9.04 is 2.6.28-15
[13:10] <slipi_> ah , ok and does that happen automatically or can i keep my kernel if i dont want to upgrade , so that i dont need to do the workaround again and again
[13:13] <Dragnslcr> It should come as a normal package update
[13:13] <Dragnslcr> Though sometimes KPackageKit won't let you upgrade the kernel because it doesn't handle the new kernel package correctly
[13:14] <slipi_> ok , i am new since 3 days but as far as i know that means that if i dont install it , it will not install automatically like windows updates
[13:15] <slipi_> thats fine , cause so i can try the workaround and if it "works" then i keep the kernel like it is for a time
[13:15] <Dragnslcr> It might install automatically. I can't remember if Ubuntu installs security updates automatically by default
[13:17] <Dragnslcr> But within a version of Kubuntu, like 9.04, you'll only get minor patches to the kernel. You won't get a new full version of the kernel unless you upgrade Kubuntu to a new version
[13:18] <Dragnslcr> So you'll only get patches to kernel 2.6.28. I think Kubuntu 9.10 will use kernel 2.6.31
[13:19] <slipi_> yes , but you said the newest version is 2.5.28-15 and i have 2.6.28-11 so that means it has not upgraded automatically
[13:20] <slipi_> i am a bit unsure if i shall try the workaround , cause i had to reformat already one time after i changed from wifi to wicd , then nothing worked anymore in wireless
[13:21] <Dragnslcr> I don't use wireless at all, so I can't really help you there
[13:44] <guillaume_> kkk
[14:10] <Freyr> can i convert audio cd to mp3(192kbps-256kpbs) using k3b ?
[14:17] <rafytafy> morning
[14:29] <Gamarok__> hey guys
[14:29] <njathan> how do i use Dolphin for ftp?
[14:29] <njathan> it does not seem to accept ftp://
[14:38] <chicco_> Ehy Waht's up
[14:39] <chicco_> Ehy Yo
[14:39] <chicco_> chicco in the house
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[14:40] <chicco_> v
[14:40] <chicco_> Ehy Waht's up
[14:40] <FloodBotK2> chicco_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:03] <snew> hi
[15:04] <snew> one stupid question: how to write in console s.th. with space between?
[15:04] <snew> for example "test 1"
[15:04] <LjL> snew: either put the whole thing between "quotation marks", or use \ before the space
[15:05] <snew> done
[15:05] <snew> thanks to LjL
[15:16] <Guest75545> nass..ìì
[15:16] <Guest75545> :))
[15:16] <deadlock> hey
[15:17] <Guest75545> hoy deadlock
[15:17] <Guest75545> soy ana
[15:17] <Guest75545> me recuerda alguien?
[15:17] <deadlock> english ?
[15:18] <Guest75545> no
[15:18] <LjL> !es
[15:18] <Guest75545> spanish
[15:18] <Guest75545> ubboti
[15:18] <Guest75545> k dices?
[15:26] <Guest1991> anyone out there?
[15:27] <dreamwalkR> anybody knows what the undernet server is?
[15:27] <Guest1991> i have a series of idiotic questions if anyone is willing to hear them
[15:35] <ivangarcia> hi, i need some help to find where can I disable postgresql to run automatically
[15:35] <ivangarcia> i cannot find it in kubuntu settings
[15:36] <Guest15359> anyone listening?
[15:36] <ivangarcia> me.
[15:36] <Guest15359> thank god
[15:36] <ivangarcia> hheh
[15:36] <ivangarcia> i just arrived too
[15:37] <Guest15359> i don't suppose you could help me with a usb issue?
[15:38] <ivangarcia> u try
[15:38] <Guest15359> u try?
[15:39] <ivangarcia> u can try
[15:39] <Guest15359> ok
[15:39] <Guest15359> i was screwing around with creating a partition on a sandisk cruzer, and a some stuf happened involving the stick being yanked in the middle of fdisk
[15:40] <Guest15359> now it doesn't mount but i get a clear indication that the hardware is recognized
[15:40] <Guest15359> mount: can't find /dev/sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[15:40] <Guest15359> thats what i get when i try to mount manually
[15:41] <ivangarcia> do u have the program gparted?
[15:41] <Guest15359> no
[15:41] <ivangarcia> try to install it and open it with ' sudo gparted'
[15:41] <Guest15359> won't fdisk do the same thing?
[15:41] <ivangarcia> i'm not expert of fdisk, gparted is graphical
[15:42] <ivangarcia> is easier
[15:42] <Guest15359> are we doing this just to see if gparted can see the drive?
[15:42] <Guest15359> because fdisk will go so far as to format it
[15:42] <Guest15359> but no mount
[15:45] <ivangarcia> gparted can try to mount it too
[15:45] <Guest15359> ah
[16:11] <marco> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFpsxzcK3uE&feature=player_profilepage#
[16:14] <lizzzy> Ok, so a noob here.. Have a couple of questions to ask. What are the packages that I can safely remove from kubuntu. The last time I uninstalled kubuntu, it mysteriously uninstalled a couple of other items that led a lot pf problems.
[16:16] <lizzzy> Also, I installed kubuntu-kde-desktop on top of jaunty. Is it safe to autoremove ubuntu-desktop now?
[16:17] <James147> lizzzy: ubuntu-desktop is only a meta package, it mostlikly wont uninstall anything by removing it
[16:17] <James147> lizzzy: but it is safe to remove
[16:18] <lizzzy> James147: There are a lot of gnome apps that I want to safely get rid of. How'd do I do that?
[16:20] <Gintulis> bernus kabinsi
[16:20] <James147> lizzzy: you can do sudo aptitude autoremove to remove something, but I dont think it will remove applications only things that no longer have dependencys
[16:22] <marco> lizzzy use sudo apt-get uninstall package
[16:22] <marco> it will show automaticallly dependencies
[16:22] <lizzzy> James147: Well, I just want all the gnome apps to not eat up space.
[16:22] <James147> lizzzy: only way I konw of is to remove them manually,
[16:24] <lizzzy> James147: Ah! The last time I removed them manually I screwed up something. Will try it again properly this time
[16:28] <lizzzy> Is libkipi6 package not required by kde?
[16:28] <lizzzy> Coz' that gets uninstalled when i autoremove ubuntu-desktop
[16:29] <lizzzy> Well, libkipi-6 seems to uninstall itself for every other package i uninstall. Sure its no problem?
[16:30] <lizzzy> Seems like its used for kipi-plugins.
[16:30] <James147> lizzzy: doent look important
[16:31] <lizzzy> James147: Kewl. Thanks
[16:31] <James147> lizzzy: if its getting auto removed then it mostlikly means that nothing else is depending onit
[16:31] <lizzzy> Ok :)
[16:32] <James147> lizzzy: install kubuntu-desktop afterwards to make sure anything that got removed is installed again
[16:35] <lizzzy> Oh ok. So, I may not be using konquerer that often. Safe to remove?
[16:35] <Byron> 2 quick questions: When is the release of 9.10? How can I update GRUB so it shows my other kernels?
[16:36] <N0LLY> I think I can reply to the first
[16:36] <N0LLY> 9.10 will be released in 29 th October I believe
[16:37] <N0LLY> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-910-karmic-koala-release-schedule.html
[16:37] <Byron> !grub
[16:42] <Byron> I can't seem to find a way of bringing back the old kernels on my desktop. I'm stuck on 2.6.30
[16:45] <ward> Hey why isn't amarok 2.2 avaible for kubuntu 9.04 ???
[16:46] <rahman_> ward: its not  even avaible to 9.10 yet :)
[16:46] <James147> ward: Give them some time, 2.2 only just came out a few days ago and the developers are busy with karmic as well :)
[16:47] <ward> But it will release on 9.04 :) not only on 9.10 ?
[16:47] <James147> ward: It will most likly be availble in teh backports eventually
[16:48] <James147> rahman_: looks like 2.2 is in karmic now :) just got a dependency error with 2.2 :S
[16:48] <ward> :p
[17:11] <Lerk> Can anybody say where can i get 32bit libXp library for amd64 arch?
[17:18] <leif> ok
[17:36] <zsakr> Hi everybody. I have a kinda weird problem. When deleting more than about 25GB my kubuntu 9.04 server hangs. Not even numlock is working. help.
[17:37] <jamesjedimaster> do you use dolphin/konqueror?
[17:38] <zsakr> no. command-line. It also happens when I delete stuff through cifs
[17:39] <allam> hi
[17:40] <zsakr> Forgot something it's when I delete >25GB all at once that it hangs :P
[17:41] <jamesjedimaster> is one single file or many files?
[17:42] <jamesjedimaster> dolphin is too heavy for file administration, but cli must be faster
[17:43] <James147> zsakr: have you tryed with the -v option, should tell you whats happening
[17:47] <Serraphyn> Hi I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 and the downloads for updates seems to be taking a long time, is there a way to change the mirror it uses?
[17:47] <zsakr> Well, when I say hang, I mean REALLY hang. Like the reset button on the box won't respond. So -v really does not help :( Even though I tried that.
[17:49] <Byron> How can I get my previous GRUB kernels? All attempts just show the current one. 2.6.30
[17:51] <Serraphyn> Byron: have you looked in the directory where you store your 2.6.30 kernel to see if there are still more then one there?
[17:51] <Byron> No, but I will now.
[17:52] <zsakr> So?
[17:52] <zsakr> any ideas?
[17:52] <Serraphyn> If they are not there then you wont be able to add them to the menu
[17:53] <Byron> Serraphyn: Yes. I see them all in /boot/
[17:53] <slow-motion> hi
[17:53] <Serraphyn> Hi slow-motion
[17:53] <slow-motion> hi Serraphyn
[17:53] <Serraphyn> Byron, then use the standard text editor and create new entries for each kernel
[17:54] <Serraphyn> Byron: http://forums.techguy.org/unix-linux/627900-modifying-grub-kubuntu.html
[17:55] <jamesjedimaster> byron, you have to add them to /boot/grub/menu.list
[17:55] <Serraphyn> zsakr: I didn't see your question so yo might ask it again and maybe I know, maybe I don't
[17:55] <zsakr> can anyone help me here?
[17:55] <zsakr> Well, when I say hang, I mean REALLY hang. Like the reset button on the box won't respond. So -v really does not help :( Even though I tried that.
[17:55] <zsakr> I have a kinda weird problem. When deleting more than about 25GB my kubuntu 9.04 server hangs. Not even numlock is working. help.
[17:56] <XDevHald> Anyone here can help me install a tar.gz theme file on Karmic 9.10?
[17:56] <Serraphyn> Sounds like a hardware issue or driver support for that hardware
[17:56] <XDevHald> I have no clue where to place or install this theme file.
[17:56] <zsakr> u think?
[17:57] <Serraphyn> zsakr: have you tried just deleting 5GB and seeing if the problem arises?
[17:57] <Serraphyn> could be a possible bad spot on the drive that causes it to hang the system
[17:59] <Serraphyn> XDevHald: you tried the .themes/ directory?
[18:00] <James147> XDevHald: theme for what exatly?
[18:00] <Serraphyn> or if your doing for all users might be /usr/share/themes
[18:01]  * Serraphyn sighs
[18:10] <Byron> Thanks Serraphyn. It has been updated.
[18:10] <Serraphyn> Byron: np mate, hope that helps
[18:13] <Byron> Serraphyn: It does. Thanks again. Losing my mind with the whole "grub>" thing and never crossed my mind to do it manually.
[18:14] <IDWMaster> The US Ubuntu Archive server is very slow today.
[18:15] <Serraphyn> Byron: Some of the best things in life are done manually :P
[18:15] <Serraphyn> IDWMaster: Canadian ones are slow also, all the 9.10 downloaders I guess
[18:15] <IDWMaster> My Kubuntu updates are only downloading at 27 KBPS.
[18:15] <IDWMaster> Is there anyone who can fix them?
[18:15] <James147> gb ones seem ok eailer :)
[18:16] <Serraphyn> IDWMaster: its just traffic on the servers, no real way to fix it short of cutting people off or throttling peoples connections
[18:17] <mrwoody> hi *. With compiz there is a plugin (called grid) which allows me to place any window on left, top, etc... by just clicking ctrl+alt+number. Is there something like that with kde?
[18:18] <Byron> Serraphyn: I suppose you're right.
[18:19] <James147> mrwoody: as far as I am aware no. But if there is one it will most likly be in System Settings _> Desktop -> Desktop Effects -> All effects.   If you really really want this feature you can use compiz instead of kwin but it will be less intrgrated into kde
[18:27] <mrwoody> James147: well the reason why i switched to kde is because some apps were not working very well within gnome. I am not sure if they would work on kde + compiz
[18:27] <mrwoody> James147: how to test it ? jst compiz --replace?
[18:28] <kaddi> I have a problem with konsole, if someone might be able to help? (still typing)
[18:29] <James147> mrwoody: not sure howto test it :) but I bet google will know. Anyway, for now you will either have tohope compiz works or just not use this feature but I would suggest submitting a feature request as it dose sound like a good feature.
[18:29] <kaddi> When I type sudo /etc/init.d/f and hit tab I automatically get fancontrol. But I also have other files starting with f. Namely foldingathome. How can I set konsole not to complete with the first  name, but only complete if there is only one possibility left?
[18:31] <jamesjedimaster> kaddi, that file foldingathome may be doesn't have execution permission o it start with capital F
[18:31] <James147> kaddi: It should have the behavour but I find sometimes it dose complete when it should list, not sure why though
[18:33] <kaddi> James147: jamesjedimaster same is happening with konversation: When I type jam it automatically fills in james147 (and capitalizes is) instead of offering both your names :p
[18:33] <James147> jamesjedimaster: Dont think it should matter about execution premision. I have had this issue sometimes wiht other files
[18:33] <kaddi> foldingathome works nicely, when I type the name out ;) sudo /etc/init.d/foldingathome stop will work without problems
[18:33] <James147> kaddi: In quassle hitting tab once lists the first name, hitting it again lists the second.. etc
[18:34] <kaddi> it used to offer me all names as well, I don't know why it changed
[18:34] <jamesjedimaster> strange it is... it should give you more options
[18:34] <James147> kaddi: My guess is it will work right for other files/directoies?
[18:35] <kaddi> so far I can only say it works correctly for directories
[18:35] <Dekans> I don't manage to install amarok on karmic
[18:35] <Dekans> amarok-common is in version 2.1.90 on repos
[18:35] <kaddi> James147: yeah it works fine for other things :)
[18:35] <kaddi> so probably a bug?
[18:36] <kaddi> so nothing I can do?
[18:37] <James147> kaddi: probally, have no idea how to fix it
[18:37] <kaddi> hmm annoying :p do you know if konsole has its own channel?
[18:38] <James147> kaddi: bash does #bash
[18:38] <James147> kaddi: think console is a bit too vague :)
[18:38] <BenBu> kubuntu 9.10: kpackagekit doesn't work for me, says I don't have the "necessary privileges", and then crashes. even if I start it with "kdesudo kpackagekit"
[18:38] <James147> kaddi: actually, dose it happen in a virtual console?
[18:39] <IDWMaster> The main update servers are still slow.
[18:39] <IDWMaster> I've tried different servers, but they are all outdated.
[18:39] <James147> kaddi: might also want to try in the gnome teminal... find out if its bash or konsole
[18:39] <kaddi> what's a virtual console? And I was referring to konsole as the terminal in kde. I think this is probably a kde specific issue
[18:40] <James147> BenBu: Think kpackagekit was broaken in karmic, #ubuntu+1 will be more helpful, its for karmic support
[18:40] <BenBu> James147: thanks. I asked there, no response.
[18:40] <James147> BenBu: Use apt-get or aptitude for now
[18:41] <James147> BenBu: I tend to find them quicker then kpackage kit :)
[18:41] <kaddi> James147: I'm going to try at #kde I think, or is this an issue you also experience with other displaymanager? (I only have kde installed)
[18:41] <James147> kaddi: alt+crtl+F1, login to a virtual console then try it, alt+crtl+F7 to switch back to gui
[18:42] <kaddi> kk brb. :P never heard it call that. Learned something tonight :)
[18:42] <James147> kaddi: if it dosent work there ask in #bash if it dose try again in konsole then ask in #kde :)
[18:43] <kaddi> James147: it also happens in virtual console, heading over to #bash then. (and my apologies to kde for blaming then ;) )
[18:44] <BenBu> James147: yup, using apt-get now :)
[18:44] <BenBu> thanks
[18:45] <James147> BenBu: I tend to prefure aptitude, espically fopr installing stuff :)
[18:50] <mino8215> ciao ragazzi
[18:51] <mino8215> è la pruma volta che provo
[18:51] <kaddi> !it
[18:51] <kaddi> I hope. :)
[19:13] <PuNToCoM> hi
[19:13] <PuNToCoM> im from Mexico
[19:17] <kaddi> hi :)
[19:28] <PuNToCoM> hola
[19:31] <jamesjedimaster> hi Puntocom, you can join to #ubuntu-mx, Im from Mexico too
[19:32] <Serraphyn> This is so odd, I have sound when I start and leave kde, but when I run something like csmash I get no audio, nor from cedega
[19:43] <IDWMaster> Updates from the US and the main Ubuntu server are still very slow.
[19:43] <IDWMaster> It would be interesting if there was a torrent-based system for Ubuntu updates.
[19:43] <IDWMaster> I tihnk that would eliminate a lot of slowdown problems.
[19:44] <Serraphyn> I kinda laugh when people complain that something totally free and of good quality is 'slow' to download
[19:46] <IDWMaster> True, but I was just wondering if there was an easier way to fix the problem.
[19:46] <IDWMaster> I can't download the updates from the "best" server, because they are not available yet.
[19:47] <IDWMaster> I thought a Torrent-based update system might be an interesting idea.
[19:47] <Serraphyn> Possibly but there is still an issue with main backbones to the internet only have so much through put
[19:56] <DexterF> hi
[20:37] <DexterF> gto a 9.04 machine, would liek to try 9.10beta. what method is best? is there an update manager already or do I need to manually adapt the sources and run it from aptitude?
[20:38] <SerR> isn't 9.10 coming in 3 weeks?
[20:38] <N0LLY> I think that for less than a month, you should wait a bit
[20:38] <SerR> the final
[20:39] <N0LLY> yes in 29 th Oct
[20:58] <epsilon_> I have the 9.10 beta, but I already tried asking in the ubuntu+1 channel, and didn't get any answers. I believe this question is pretty universal, though: I installed ubuntu, and installed "kubuntu-desktop". I rebooted into kde, and removed "ubuntu-desktop", but a lot of ubuntu/gnome stuff is still left -- how can I remove the packages that are left? (Except removing them one-by-one, obviously)
[21:00] <N0LLY> well, I think that since they get installed by default, it is a bit difficult to have them auto removed... I believe
[21:03] <epsilon_> Actually, I might have solved it, but thanks all the same.
[21:05] <raindog> will kubuntu ppa beta get amarok-common (=2:2.2.0-0ubuntu1)?  Amarok 2.2.2.0 depends on it.  (last updates removed Amarok)
[21:17] <the_madman> raindog: Strange, the latest update hasn't removed Amarok for me... it hasn't updated Amarok either, but...
[21:18] <subito> hi. does someone know how to make work virtual midi piano keyboard? i have no sound on it
[21:18] <raindog> the_madman, I'm using Karmic.
[21:19] <raindog> I'll just have to wait til amarok-common gets built.  :(
[21:19] <the_madman> raindog: Aah, my bad.
[21:19] <the_madman> subito: What program is that?
[21:20] <subito> the_madman:
[21:20] <subito> http://sourceforge.net/projects/vmpk/
[21:21] <subito> i think i have to connect something with JACK
[21:22] <subito> but the ouput of vmpk is connected to "midi though" and still there is no sound
[21:27] <subito> ok now i connected it the zynaddsubfx (it seems a horrible program) but i can't change the sound of output, it's an ugly sound, not the sound of a piano
[21:28] <the_madman> subito: Did you compile it from the sourceforge tar?
[21:28] <the_madman> subito: Did you compile it from the sourceforge tarball*?
[21:30] <subito> yes, but the output sound seems not to be controlled by vmpk but by zynaddsubfx
[21:31]  * wildnfree waves at NoobProgrammer
[21:32]  * NoobProgrammer waves back at wildnfree
[21:32] <the_madman> subito: Or did you install it from the repositories?
[21:32] <the_madman> subito: Oops, sorry.
[21:32] <subito> the_madman: compiled it :)
[21:33] <the_madman> subito: Yeah, the compile process didn't work for me..
[21:33] <NoobProgrammer> Are there any video maker out there?
[21:33] <N0LLY> how do you wave please?
[21:33] <subito> the_madman: too bad, you wanted the program?
[21:33] <N0LLY> :D
[21:33] <wildnfree> Nolly: just type  /me waves
[21:33] <the_madman> NoobProgrammer: There are a few...
[21:33] <NoobProgrammer> "/me waves to everyone"
[21:33]  * N0LLY 
[21:34] <N0LLY> hmm
[21:34] <the_madman> NoobProgrammer: There's KDEnlive, for one...
[21:34] <NoobProgrammer> the_manman have you tried OpenShot?
[21:34]  * N0LLY thanks :D
[21:34] <wildnfree> the_madman
[21:35] <NoobProgrammer> so far I like it better than KDenlive
[21:35] <the_madman> NoobProgrammer: OpenShot? No, I haven't, but I was very pleased with KDEnlive.
[21:35] <the_madman> NoobProgrammer: Will give it a go, though. :()
[21:35] <the_madman> :)
[21:35] <NoobProgrammer> :)
[21:36] <wildnfree> the_madman: New channel for OpenShot User Group is #openshot - please spread the word
[21:36] <yuriy> default settings for kopete are really weird
[21:36] <the_madman> wildnfree: Does it have a sourceforge page? Can't find it in the repositories.
[21:37] <wildnfree> the_madman: Launchpad
[21:37] <wildnfree> https://launchpad.net/openshot
[21:37] <wildnfree> http://www.openshotvideo.com  is home blog
[21:38] <subito> the_madman: you wanted the program? do you need help installed it?
[21:40] <Heliwr> hello all - trying to upgrade from jaunty to karmic using the alternate CD cdromupgrade, but when I use kdesudo "media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade" it returns unable to execute permission denied. Any ideas how to proceed?
[21:47] <rafytafy> try sudo -s -H
[21:47] <rafytafy> then issue command without sudo
[21:48] <DexterF> 9.04->9-10beta: aptitude or upgrade-manager? (is there one yet?)
[21:49] <Heliwr> the alternate cd has a cdromupgrade script, or you can use update-notifier-kde to download packages from the repositories
[21:50] <Heliwr> unfortunately the repositories seem a little overloaded right now
[21:50] <Heliwr> I'm checking if update notifier will retain the cd as a source, if not I'll try rafytafy's suggestion
[21:51] <rafytafy> Heliwr: i use that trick to install certain video games which give me permission problems
[21:54] <rafytafy> i got heroes of might and magic 3 to install on linux, but it wont go into fullscreen :(
[21:56] <Heliwr> damn, sources.list still has the cd uncommented but the update notifier is ignoring it anyways
[21:56] <Heliwr> and rafytafy, unfortunately the sudo -s -H has the same results as kdesudo
[21:57] <rafytafy> hmm strange
[21:57] <Heliwr> hmm, not quite the same results - now it's returning bad interpreter: permission denied
[21:57] <rafytafy> could it be a bug?
[21:57] <DTsan> !wifi
[21:58] <DTsan> !ndiswrapper
[21:58] <DTsan> -_-
[22:00] <DTsan> w00t, found what i needed ^_^
[22:03] <DTsan> ok, need help. i am working off these directions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Linksys_WUSB54GS_v1_&_v2?highlight=%28AND%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29
[22:03] <DTsan> this step: sudo cp USB8023K.sys /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmrndis/usb8023k.sys gives me an error
[22:03] <hannibal79> hello how can i reduce the watch on kde bar? it is too big
[22:04] <DTsan> "no such file or directory"
[22:04] <rafytafy> bcse you spelled USB capitol
[22:04] <rafytafy> in one
[22:04] <rafytafy> and its lower case
[22:04] <rafytafy> in the other DTsan
[22:04] <FloodBotK2> rafytafy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <DTsan> ok, did a copy and paste, thanks
[22:04] <DTsan> and it still gives the error
[22:05] <DTsan> with both as caps and both as lowercase
[22:05] <rafytafy> are you in home directory, is that also where the USB file is located?
[22:06] <DTsan> no, i'm the in specified directory in the directions
[22:08] <DTsan> never mind, .sys needed to be .SYS
[22:09] <rafytafy> lol
[22:09] <DTsan> will need to edit that doc later
[22:11] <hannibal79> hello how can i reduce the watch on kde bar? it is too big
[22:11] <rafytafy> right click on the taskbar and edit it..i would assume
[22:11] <hannibal79> there are no option tu reduce
[22:11] <rafytafy> which kubuntu version?
[22:12] <hannibal79> 9.04
[22:12] <rafytafy> oh , im still using 8.04
[22:15] <Heliwr> for anyone trying to upgrade from jaunty to karmic beta using the alternate cd I found the solution - instead of kdesudo "/media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade" use kdesudo "sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade"
[22:16] <rafytafy> ah so its a .sh file
[22:19] <compilerwriter> Ladies and gents I would like to know if Kubuntu will easily support external usb dvd writers well?  Is there a good site to check out the prospects or do I need not be concerned?
[22:19] <rafytafy> compilewriter: my friend has one and she says it works just fine
[22:23] <compilerwriter> Thanks rafytafy so you are of the opinion that just about anything should be plug and play.
[22:23] <rafytafy> If it was me buying a external writer, I would not worry
[23:02] <Guest95689> Digikam crashes on "restoration" and I lose all my photo refinishing. The word is, the wrong libraries are in Kubuntu (Jaunty) and this can't be fixed until KDE4 is updated. That will be when 9.10 is ready (I guess). Is that right and how do I fix this?
[23:10] <franta> Hi, is this the right place to ask about things related to karmic koala?
[23:12] <Dragnslcr> !karmic | franta
[23:12] <franta> ubottu: thanks
[23:13] <BugsBunnyBR> Some one know's why I can't use the shutdown botton in kde 4.3.1 to turn off the PC??
[23:14] <BugsBunnyBR> I am using kubuntu 9.04 with backports..
[23:21] <Ben348> Hi
[23:23] <Ben348> My screen is stuck on a 600x800 resolution, how do I get it to 1280x800 like it is on windows  ?
[23:25] <BugsBunnyBR> Ben348, what is your video card?
[23:25] <BugsBunnyBR> Nvidia?
[23:25] <Ben348> nVidia GeForce 7000m
[23:25] <BugsBunnyBR> Ben348, did you install nvidia driver?
[23:26] <Ben348> Previously before I re-installed Kubuntu I got this window s http://i34.tinypic.com/280kxfd.png where I could active the driver, but nnow the graphics drivers dont appear in the list.
[23:26] <Ben348> BugsBunnyBR: Sorry I don't know how you do that, Im new to Linux.
[23:27] <BugsBunnyBR> ok
[23:27] <BugsBunnyBR> don't worry
[23:27] <BugsBunnyBR> well, do you know how to use apt-get?
[23:28] <Ben348> briefly
[23:28] <BugsBunnyBR> It's enough
[23:28] <Ben348> I know: Sudo apt-get install <appname>
[23:28] <BugsBunnyBR> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[23:28] <BugsBunnyBR> :D
[23:28] <BugsBunnyBR> and so reboot the PC
[23:28] <Ben348> I dont know the make install stuff though
[23:28] <Ben348> ahh ok cheers man :D
[23:29] <BugsBunnyBR> when you comeback, try "sudo nvidia-settings"
[23:29] <Ben348> ooh ok thanks, im just downloading it now. I
[23:30] <Ben348> Ok ill just reboot now :D thanks for the help
[23:31] <BugsBunnyBR> the nvidia-settings is almost the same of the "windows version" of nvidia-settings
[23:31] <BugsBunnyBR> too easy to use
[23:41] <DarkriftX> !package arm-eabi-gcc
[23:41] <DarkriftX> hrmmmm
[23:41] <DarkriftX> !arm-eabi-gcc
[23:41] <DarkriftX> i forgot the command :(
[23:44] <DarkriftX> !help
[23:45] <DarkriftX> lol, i need bot help you silly bot
[23:45] <yofel> !find arm
[23:46] <kazir> hey wats u p guys
[23:46] <kazir> amarok dosent work an im getting short of patience
[23:46] <DarkriftX> !find arm-eabi
[23:47] <DarkriftX> !find arm-gcc
[23:47] <kazir> wat steps should i take to get amarok to work
[23:47] <kazir> cuz im just confuseed
[23:47] <kazir> totally