| dtchen | bdrung: can you reproduce #438065 in a fully updated Karmic? i no longer can. | 00:21 |
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| bdrung | dtchen: will test it | 00:23 |
| dtchen | bdrung: thanks | 00:23 |
| bdrung | dtchen: did you test it after a clean boot? | 00:23 |
| dtchen | bdrung: absolutely | 00:23 |
| dtchen | it took about two hours to fully update, but it was worth it | 00:24 |
| bdrung | dtchen: how slow it your internet connection? | 00:27 |
| dtchen | not very, but pulling about 170 MB of updates from us.archive takes a very long time | 00:28 |
| dtchen | it's getting better now, though | 00:28 |
| bdrung | dtchen: btw, thanks for your work done in pulseaudio. it is getting better (in karmic i can use it on my desktop system) | 00:37 |
| jgjones | Hello | 00:51 |
| jgjones | maybe I'm being thick here but I can't see where I can enter a new bug on Launchpad | 00:51 |
| jgjones | for Karmic Koala | 00:51 |
| yofel | jgjones: use the report a bug function in the specific app or 'ubuntu-bug <packagename>' from the command line | 00:53 |
| bdrung_ | dtchen: tested and it works here, too | 01:18 |
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| dholbach | bug jammers, please add yourselves to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Events | 10:59 |
| keidesu00 | hello | 11:02 |
| keidesu00 | anyone? | 11:02 |
| Mez | Brummie Bugjam Broadcast is now available http://autoview.autotrain.org/mod/autoview/view.php?id=31 <-- actually working now | 12:14 |
| james_w | dholbach: say hi to Murphy from me :-) | 13:05 |
| dholbach | hey james_w :) | 13:36 |
| dholbach | james_w: will do :) | 13:36 |
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| thekorn | hi, greetings to the jammers around the world :) | 13:52 |
| qense | is the jam today? | 13:56 |
| thekorn | qense: this weekend | 13:57 |
| qense | good! | 13:58 |
| qense | I hope it will be a good one. Good luck to everyone, in that case! | 13:58 |
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| ebroder | If we're doing a bug jam today, what's the best way to find the bugs that are most important to fix? Just searching LP for critical/high priority? | 15:18 |
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| blue-frog | hi, I can't find the submit bug button on launchpad.net. is it disabled for a while? | 16:11 |
| dtchen | ebroder: milestoned against [9.10] RC or final, yes | 16:13 |
| blue-frog | how does one submit a bug on launchpad.net, please? | 16:21 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: are you logged in? | 16:21 |
| blue-frog | yes | 16:21 |
| blue-frog | not the first time I report a bug but today ther's no way to submit a ne bug | 16:22 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: for certain packages, ubuntu-bug is preferable | 16:22 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: which package is affected here? | 16:22 |
| blue-frog | touchpad on a eeepc | 16:22 |
| blue-frog | so I don't know what program is managing that | 16:23 |
| blue-frog | hence can't give ubuntu-bug a PID | 16:23 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: what's the output from: lshal|egrep -i '(synaptics|alps)' | 16:24 |
| blue-frog | nothing | 16:24 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: will you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, please? | 16:25 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: BTW, the canonical link is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/+login | 16:26 |
| dtchen | err, without the /+login | 16:26 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: if you're looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu , it's on the trailing vertical side in the pane marked "Get Involved" | 16:26 |
| hggdh | er, currently you must add '?no-redirect' to the end of the URL | 16:28 |
| blue-frog | dtchen: http://pastebin.com/d2ab22550 | 16:29 |
| blue-frog | dtchen: in the get involved pane, the report a bug link is not "submit a new bug" | 16:32 |
| blue-frog | ok I have the page to report a new bug. Has it changed to confuse the ennemy? | 16:35 |
| viperhoot | a question: ehre package is related to this problem?? : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30033596/Screenshot.png ? | 16:38 |
| viperhoot | I'm not very sure :S | 16:39 |
| matti | ;] | 16:40 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: right, it's "Report a bug". Feel free to correct any outdated/incorrect documentation. | 16:41 |
| dtchen | viperhoot: is the symptom reproducible with a brand new/fresh user? | 16:42 |
| viperhoot | it's Netbook Remix 9.04 with the default theme and no major changes to the default install. | 16:42 |
| viperhoot | dtchen, ;) | 16:43 |
| dtchen | viperhoot: i suspect it's a driver issue and/or memory corruption | 16:43 |
| dtchen | can you test the 20091003 iso of karmic-netbook-remix? | 16:43 |
| viperhoot | dtchen, this is the bug report: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/410519 | 16:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 410519 in ubuntu ""Create launcher" window has black background in Netbook Remix" [Undecided,New] | 16:44 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: you're not running current Karmic, BTW | 16:45 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: please update fully, reboot, and attempt to reproduce the symptom | 16:45 |
| blue-frog | I do. beta updated as of today | 16:45 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: no, really, you're not. Your kernel is 2.6.31-11.36, which is outdated. The current one is 2.6.31-11.38. | 16:45 |
| blue-frog | rebooting once more to check then | 16:45 |
| blue-frog | ok updating then | 16:45 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: be aware that it takes some mirrors longer to sync | 16:45 |
| blue-frog | dtchen what mirror would be likely to be up to date, if you have the info by chance? | 16:47 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: i always use us.archive.ubuntu.com, but be aware that it's hammered right now | 16:48 |
| blue-frog | sure midday in the states following release of beta... | 16:49 |
| blue-frog | nl seems to have some more update | 16:49 |
| ebroder | dtchen: How do I find bugs milestoned to 9.10 RC/final? The only Karmic-related milestones I see on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1 are "Ubuntu ubuntu-9.10" and "Ubuntu karmic-updates" | 16:49 |
| dtchen | ebroder: ubuntu-9.10 should be fine | 16:51 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: also, you're likely looking at xserver-xorg-input-synaptics and linux | 16:52 |
| blue-frog | dtchen: ok. upgrading right now, reboot in a sec. then I'll see what's going on | 16:53 |
| blue-frog | dtchen: hum. xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is not installed in the netbook remix edition. sounds right? | 17:01 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: it should be. it's listed in the manifest here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/20091003/karmic-netbook-remix-i386.manifest | 17:06 |
| blue-frog | dtchen: ok think I know what happen. I installed the base system first then ubuntu netbook remix from tasksel. must be a glitch there | 17:06 |
| blue-frog | dtchen: and indeed once xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is installed touchpad is working as desired. ty for your time | 17:18 |
| dtchen | blue-frog: np. | 17:20 |
| greg-g | Hey, curious why this apport reported bug did not have a package assigned: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/441330 | 19:16 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 441330 in ubuntu "[ASUSTeK Computer Inc. F5RL] suspend/resume failure" [Undecided,New] | 19:16 |
| Rocket2DMn | greg-g, i wonder if the user removed the package when filing the bug, it should be filed against linux | 19:34 |
| andresmujica | en 5 min arranca clase de bug triaging en #ubuntu-classroom-es (in spanish) | 20:00 |
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| Guest87221 | hello, i have a problem with my sound. when an application wants audio or after some time i hear a "pop" sound. i found a forum post where it was said that this happens when the sound card driver goes into sleep and that a bug should be filled against that driver. anyone has some advice on how to collect usefull information neccesary for such a bug? | 20:25 |
| jmarsden | Guest87221: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems may be useful? | 20:37 |
| greg-g | Rocket2DMn: yeah, figured. We at the jam here in Michigan have come across a couple of them so far like that (sorry, dont' have other links for them) | 20:39 |
| Guest87221 | @jmardsen ill take a look at that, thanks | 20:39 |
| Rocket2DMn | greg-g, you guys can certainly assign the bugs to the correct package yourselves | 20:40 |
| Rocket2DMn | if you ever have questions about which package, just ask | 20:40 |
| greg-g | Rocket2DMn: oh of course, just wondering why some look like it just didn't have a package assigned by apport (no record of them being unassigned) | 20:41 |
| Rocket2DMn | yeah greg-g , must have happened while they were filing the bug | 20:42 |
| MagicFab | Hi all - I am trying to find where "Incomplete" assignment is documented. | 20:47 |
| MagicFab | AFAIK when someone asks a question to the bug reporter, it becomes "incomplete, assigned to reporter" but I can't find a reference to that | 20:47 |
| MagicFab | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Assignment is rather short on that subject :) | 20:48 |
| Guest87221 | jmarsden: the link didnt help much in solving the problem, but was a great start for the bug report. thanks | 20:50 |
| jmarsden | No problem. | 20:50 |
| dtchen | Guest87221: i gave instructions for filing bugs in my post to ubuntu-devel{,-discuss} | 20:52 |
| dtchen | Guest87221: if you haven't located it, it's at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2009-May/008239.html | 20:54 |
| Guest87221 | ok, i allready filed a bug using ubuntu-bug -p alsa-base but didnt name it power_save=10 as this doesnt happen after 10 secs from my testings. | 20:56 |
| dtchen | it's precisely because we enabled powerdown for your controller and codec | 20:57 |
| dtchen | you likely have one of conexant, realtek, or analog devices | 20:57 |
| dtchen | but not idt/sigmatel; we've fixed that | 20:57 |
| Guest87221 | i think i have an intel | 20:58 |
| dtchen | well, that's the generic name, but that isn't what i'm referring to | 20:58 |
| dtchen | intel is just a brand name; it says next to nothing about the actual controller or codec | 20:59 |
| Guest87221 | Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) | 20:59 |
| Guest87221 | or what information you need? | 20:59 |
| dtchen | the information i need is in your bug report | 21:00 |
| dtchen | that lspci line is pretty useless | 21:00 |
| Guest87221 | ok, sry | 21:01 |
| dtchen | no worries | 21:01 |
| Guest87221 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/441661 | 21:01 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 441661 in alsa-driver "sound "pops" "clicks"" [Undecided,New] | 21:01 |
| dtchen | heads-up, bugsquad/bugcontrol: those powerdown bugs should be triaged against linux _not_ alsa-driver | 21:02 |
| dtchen | again, this is pretty clearly stated at the top of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems | 21:04 |
| yofel | dtchen: you mean those clicks when turning the sound card on/off ? | 21:04 |
| dtchen | yofel: yes | 21:04 |
| yofel | ok | 21:04 |
| mercutio22 | hello there. | 21:07 |
| Guest87221 | ubuntu-bug -P alsa-base did that | 21:08 |
| dtchen | Guest87221: yes, i know. the note is for people going back and triaging bug reports | 21:08 |
| mercutio22 | I em testing karmic here. I think a new bug was introduced with the latest round of upgrade. Compiz won' t start and the UNR interface is much slower | 21:08 |
| dtchen | too many people blithely re-triage them to affect alsa-driver incorrectly | 21:08 |
| mercutio22 | I just filed a bug. I was wondering if other people can confirm that | 21:09 |
| yofel | mercutio22: bug number? | 21:09 |
| Guest87221 | ic | 21:09 |
| mercutio22 | yofel Bug #441683 | 21:10 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 441683 in compiz "compiz fails to load after latest karmic (beta) upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/441683 | 21:10 |
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| intruder1 | hi there | 22:24 |
| yofel | hi intruder1 | 22:26 |
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| Mez | for those who didnt see it - my video of my presentation from earlier is @ http://www.sourceguru.org/videos/7/ | 23:03 |
| intruder1 | see you | 23:03 |
| intruder1 | bye | 23:03 |
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