dtchenbdrung: can you reproduce #438065 in a fully updated Karmic? i no longer can.00:21
bdrungdtchen: will test it00:23
dtchenbdrung: thanks00:23
bdrungdtchen: did you test it after a clean boot?00:23
dtchenbdrung: absolutely00:23
dtchenit took about two hours to fully update, but it was worth it00:24
bdrungdtchen: how slow it your internet connection?00:27
dtchennot very, but pulling about 170 MB of updates from us.archive takes a very long time00:28
dtchenit's getting better now, though00:28
bdrungdtchen: btw, thanks for your work done in pulseaudio. it is getting better (in karmic i can use it on my desktop system)00:37
jgjonesmaybe I'm being thick here but I can't see where I can enter a new bug on Launchpad00:51
jgjonesfor Karmic Koala00:51
yofeljgjones: use the report a bug function in the specific app or 'ubuntu-bug <packagename>' from the command line00:53
bdrung_dtchen: tested and it works here, too01:18
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dholbachbug jammers, please add yourselves to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Events10:59
MezBrummie Bugjam Broadcast is now available http://autoview.autotrain.org/mod/autoview/view.php?id=31 <-- actually working now12:14
james_wdholbach: say hi to Murphy from me :-)13:05
dholbachhey james_w :)13:36
dholbachjames_w: will do :)13:36
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thekornhi, greetings to the jammers around the world :)13:52
qenseis the jam today?13:56
thekornqense: this weekend13:57
qenseI hope it will be a good one. Good luck to everyone, in that case!13:58
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ebroderIf we're doing a bug jam today, what's the best way to find the bugs that are most important to fix? Just searching LP for critical/high priority?15:18
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blue-froghi, I can't find the submit bug button on launchpad.net. is it disabled for a while?16:11
dtchenebroder: milestoned against [9.10] RC or final, yes16:13
blue-froghow does one submit a bug on launchpad.net, please?16:21
dtchenblue-frog: are you logged in?16:21
blue-frognot the first time I report a bug but today ther's no way to submit a ne bug16:22
dtchenblue-frog: for certain packages, ubuntu-bug is preferable16:22
dtchenblue-frog: which package is affected here?16:22
blue-frogtouchpad on a eeepc16:22
blue-frogso I don't know what program is managing that16:23
blue-froghence can't give ubuntu-bug a PID16:23
dtchenblue-frog: what's the output from: lshal|egrep -i '(synaptics|alps)'16:24
dtchenblue-frog: will you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, please?16:25
dtchenblue-frog: BTW, the canonical link is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/+login16:26
dtchenerr, without the /+login16:26
dtchenblue-frog: if you're looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu , it's on the trailing vertical side in the pane marked "Get Involved"16:26
hggdher, currently you must add '?no-redirect' to the end of the URL16:28
blue-frogdtchen: http://pastebin.com/d2ab2255016:29
blue-frogdtchen: in the get involved pane, the report a bug link is not "submit a new bug"16:32
blue-frogok I have the page to report a new bug. Has it changed to confuse the ennemy?16:35
viperhoota question: ehre package is related to this problem?? : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30033596/Screenshot.png ?16:38
viperhootI'm not very sure :S16:39
dtchenblue-frog: right, it's "Report a bug". Feel free to correct any outdated/incorrect documentation.16:41
dtchenviperhoot: is the symptom reproducible with a brand new/fresh user?16:42
viperhootit's Netbook Remix 9.04 with the default theme and no major changes to the default install.16:42
viperhootdtchen, ;)16:43
dtchenviperhoot: i suspect it's a driver issue and/or memory corruption16:43
dtchencan you test the 20091003 iso of karmic-netbook-remix?16:43
viperhootdtchen, this is the bug report: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/41051916:44
ubot4Launchpad bug 410519 in ubuntu ""Create launcher" window has black background in Netbook Remix" [Undecided,New]16:44
dtchenblue-frog: you're not running current Karmic, BTW16:45
dtchenblue-frog: please update fully, reboot, and attempt to reproduce the symptom16:45
blue-frogI do. beta updated as of today16:45
dtchenblue-frog: no, really, you're not. Your kernel is 2.6.31-11.36, which is outdated. The current one is 2.6.31-11.38.16:45
blue-frogrebooting once more to check then16:45
blue-frogok updating then16:45
dtchenblue-frog: be aware that it takes some mirrors longer to sync16:45
blue-frogdtchen what mirror would be likely to be up to date, if you have the info by chance?16:47
dtchenblue-frog: i always use us.archive.ubuntu.com, but be aware that it's hammered right now16:48
blue-frogsure midday in the states following release of beta...16:49
blue-frognl seems to have some more update16:49
ebroderdtchen: How do I find bugs milestoned to 9.10 RC/final? The only Karmic-related milestones I see on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1 are "Ubuntu ubuntu-9.10" and "Ubuntu karmic-updates"16:49
dtchenebroder: ubuntu-9.10 should be fine16:51
dtchenblue-frog: also, you're likely looking at xserver-xorg-input-synaptics and linux16:52
blue-frogdtchen: ok. upgrading right now, reboot in a sec. then I'll see what's going on16:53
blue-frogdtchen: hum. xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is not installed in the netbook remix edition. sounds right?17:01
dtchenblue-frog: it should be. it's listed in the manifest here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/20091003/karmic-netbook-remix-i386.manifest17:06
blue-frogdtchen: ok think I know what happen. I installed the base system first then ubuntu netbook remix from tasksel. must be a glitch there17:06
blue-frogdtchen: and indeed once xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is installed touchpad is working as desired. ty for your time17:18
dtchenblue-frog: np.17:20
greg-gHey, curious why this apport reported bug did not have a package assigned: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/44133019:16
ubot4Launchpad bug 441330 in ubuntu "[ASUSTeK Computer Inc. F5RL] suspend/resume failure" [Undecided,New]19:16
Rocket2DMngreg-g, i wonder if the user removed the package when filing the bug, it should be filed against linux19:34
andresmujicaen 5 min arranca clase de bug triaging en #ubuntu-classroom-es  (in spanish)20:00
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Guest87221hello, i have a problem with my sound. when an application wants audio or after some time i hear a "pop" sound. i found a forum post where it was said that this happens when the sound card driver goes into sleep and that a bug should be filled against that driver. anyone has some advice on how to collect usefull information neccesary for such a bug?20:25
jmarsdenGuest87221: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems  may be useful?20:37
greg-gRocket2DMn: yeah, figured. We at the jam here in Michigan have come across a couple of them so far like that (sorry, dont' have other links for them)20:39
Guest87221@jmardsen ill take a look at that, thanks20:39
Rocket2DMngreg-g, you guys can certainly assign the bugs to the correct package yourselves20:40
Rocket2DMnif you ever have questions about which package, just ask20:40
greg-gRocket2DMn: oh of course, just wondering why some look like it just didn't have a package assigned by apport (no record of them being unassigned)20:41
Rocket2DMnyeah greg-g , must have happened while they were filing the bug20:42
MagicFabHi all - I am trying to find where "Incomplete" assignment is documented.20:47
MagicFabAFAIK when someone asks a question to the bug reporter, it becomes "incomplete, assigned to reporter" but I can't find a reference to that20:47
MagicFabhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Assignment is rather short on that subject :)20:48
Guest87221jmarsden: the link didnt help much in solving the problem, but was a great start for the bug report. thanks20:50
jmarsdenNo problem.20:50
dtchenGuest87221: i gave instructions for filing bugs in my post to ubuntu-devel{,-discuss}20:52
dtchenGuest87221: if you haven't located it, it's at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2009-May/008239.html20:54
Guest87221ok, i allready filed a bug using ubuntu-bug -p alsa-base but didnt name it power_save=10 as this doesnt happen after 10 secs from my testings.20:56
dtchenit's precisely because we enabled powerdown for your controller and codec20:57
dtchenyou likely have one of conexant, realtek, or analog devices20:57
dtchenbut not idt/sigmatel; we've fixed that20:57
Guest87221i think i have an intel20:58
dtchenwell, that's the generic name, but that isn't what i'm referring to20:58
dtchenintel is just a brand name; it says next to nothing about the actual controller or codec20:59
Guest87221Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)20:59
Guest87221or what information you need?20:59
dtchenthe information i need is in your bug report21:00
dtchenthat lspci line is pretty useless21:00
Guest87221ok, sry21:01
dtchenno worries21:01
ubot4Launchpad bug 441661 in alsa-driver "sound "pops" "clicks"" [Undecided,New]21:01
dtchenheads-up, bugsquad/bugcontrol: those powerdown bugs should be triaged against linux _not_ alsa-driver21:02
dtchenagain, this is pretty clearly stated at the top of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems21:04
yofeldtchen: you mean those clicks when turning the sound card on/off ?21:04
dtchenyofel: yes21:04
mercutio22hello there.21:07
Guest87221ubuntu-bug -P alsa-base did that21:08
dtchenGuest87221: yes, i know. the note is for people going back and triaging bug reports21:08
mercutio22I em testing karmic here. I think a new bug was introduced with the latest round of upgrade. Compiz won' t start and the UNR interface is much slower21:08
dtchentoo many people blithely re-triage them to affect alsa-driver incorrectly21:08
mercutio22I just filed a bug. I was wondering if other people can confirm that21:09
yofelmercutio22: bug number?21:09
mercutio22yofel Bug #44168321:10
ubot4Launchpad bug 441683 in compiz "compiz fails to load after latest karmic (beta) upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44168321:10
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intruder1hi there22:24
yofelhi intruder122:26
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Mezfor those who didnt see it - my video of my presentation from earlier is @ http://www.sourceguru.org/videos/7/23:03
intruder1see you23:03

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