[00:21] <dtchen> bdrung: can you reproduce #438065 in a fully updated Karmic? i no longer can.
[00:23] <bdrung> dtchen: will test it
[00:23] <dtchen> bdrung: thanks
[00:23] <bdrung> dtchen: did you test it after a clean boot?
[00:23] <dtchen> bdrung: absolutely
[00:24] <dtchen> it took about two hours to fully update, but it was worth it
[00:27] <bdrung> dtchen: how slow it your internet connection?
[00:28] <dtchen> not very, but pulling about 170 MB of updates from us.archive takes a very long time
[00:28] <dtchen> it's getting better now, though
[00:37] <bdrung> dtchen: btw, thanks for your work done in pulseaudio. it is getting better (in karmic i can use it on my desktop system)
[00:51] <jgjones> Hello
[00:51] <jgjones> maybe I'm being thick here but I can't see where I can enter a new bug on Launchpad
[00:51] <jgjones> for Karmic Koala
[00:53] <yofel> jgjones: use the report a bug function in the specific app or 'ubuntu-bug <packagename>' from the command line
[01:18] <bdrung_> dtchen: tested and it works here, too
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[10:59] <dholbach> bug jammers, please add yourselves to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Events
[11:02] <keidesu00> hello
[11:02] <keidesu00> anyone?
[12:14] <Mez> Brummie Bugjam Broadcast is now available http://autoview.autotrain.org/mod/autoview/view.php?id=31 <-- actually working now
[13:05] <james_w> dholbach: say hi to Murphy from me :-)
[13:36] <dholbach> hey james_w :)
[13:36] <dholbach> james_w: will do :)
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[13:52] <thekorn> hi, greetings to the jammers around the world :)
[13:56] <qense> is the jam today?
[13:57] <thekorn> qense: this weekend
[13:58] <qense> good!
[13:58] <qense> I hope it will be a good one. Good luck to everyone, in that case!
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[15:18] <ebroder> If we're doing a bug jam today, what's the best way to find the bugs that are most important to fix? Just searching LP for critical/high priority?
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[16:11] <blue-frog> hi, I can't find the submit bug button on launchpad.net. is it disabled for a while?
[16:13] <dtchen> ebroder: milestoned against [9.10] RC or final, yes
[16:21] <blue-frog> how does one submit a bug on launchpad.net, please?
[16:21] <dtchen> blue-frog: are you logged in?
[16:21] <blue-frog> yes
[16:22] <blue-frog> not the first time I report a bug but today ther's no way to submit a ne bug
[16:22] <dtchen> blue-frog: for certain packages, ubuntu-bug is preferable
[16:22] <dtchen> blue-frog: which package is affected here?
[16:22] <blue-frog> touchpad on a eeepc
[16:23] <blue-frog> so I don't know what program is managing that
[16:23] <blue-frog> hence can't give ubuntu-bug a PID
[16:24] <dtchen> blue-frog: what's the output from: lshal|egrep -i '(synaptics|alps)'
[16:24] <blue-frog> nothing
[16:25] <dtchen> blue-frog: will you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, please?
[16:26] <dtchen> blue-frog: BTW, the canonical link is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/+login
[16:26] <dtchen> err, without the /+login
[16:26] <dtchen> blue-frog: if you're looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu , it's on the trailing vertical side in the pane marked "Get Involved"
[16:28] <hggdh> er, currently you must add '?no-redirect' to the end of the URL
[16:29] <blue-frog> dtchen: http://pastebin.com/d2ab22550
[16:32] <blue-frog> dtchen: in the get involved pane, the report a bug link is not "submit a new bug"
[16:35] <blue-frog> ok I have the page to report a new bug. Has it changed to confuse the ennemy?
[16:38] <viperhoot> a question: ehre package is related to this problem?? : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30033596/Screenshot.png ?
[16:39] <viperhoot> I'm not very sure :S
[16:40] <matti> ;]
[16:41] <dtchen> blue-frog: right, it's "Report a bug". Feel free to correct any outdated/incorrect documentation.
[16:42] <dtchen> viperhoot: is the symptom reproducible with a brand new/fresh user?
[16:42] <viperhoot> it's Netbook Remix 9.04 with the default theme and no major changes to the default install.
[16:43] <viperhoot> dtchen, ;)
[16:43] <dtchen> viperhoot: i suspect it's a driver issue and/or memory corruption
[16:43] <dtchen> can you test the 20091003 iso of karmic-netbook-remix?
[16:44] <viperhoot> dtchen, this is the bug report: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/410519
[16:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 410519 in ubuntu ""Create launcher" window has black background in Netbook Remix" [Undecided,New]
[16:45] <dtchen> blue-frog: you're not running current Karmic, BTW
[16:45] <dtchen> blue-frog: please update fully, reboot, and attempt to reproduce the symptom
[16:45] <blue-frog> I do. beta updated as of today
[16:45] <dtchen> blue-frog: no, really, you're not. Your kernel is 2.6.31-11.36, which is outdated. The current one is 2.6.31-11.38.
[16:45] <blue-frog> rebooting once more to check then
[16:45] <blue-frog> ok updating then
[16:45] <dtchen> blue-frog: be aware that it takes some mirrors longer to sync
[16:47] <blue-frog> dtchen what mirror would be likely to be up to date, if you have the info by chance?
[16:48] <dtchen> blue-frog: i always use us.archive.ubuntu.com, but be aware that it's hammered right now
[16:49] <blue-frog> sure midday in the states following release of beta...
[16:49] <blue-frog> nl seems to have some more update
[16:49] <ebroder> dtchen: How do I find bugs milestoned to 9.10 RC/final? The only Karmic-related milestones I see on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1 are "Ubuntu ubuntu-9.10" and "Ubuntu karmic-updates"
[16:51] <dtchen> ebroder: ubuntu-9.10 should be fine
[16:52] <dtchen> blue-frog: also, you're likely looking at xserver-xorg-input-synaptics and linux
[16:53] <blue-frog> dtchen: ok. upgrading right now, reboot in a sec. then I'll see what's going on
[17:01] <blue-frog> dtchen: hum. xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is not installed in the netbook remix edition. sounds right?
[17:06] <dtchen> blue-frog: it should be. it's listed in the manifest here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/20091003/karmic-netbook-remix-i386.manifest
[17:06] <blue-frog> dtchen: ok think I know what happen. I installed the base system first then ubuntu netbook remix from tasksel. must be a glitch there
[17:18] <blue-frog> dtchen: and indeed once xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is installed touchpad is working as desired. ty for your time
[17:20] <dtchen> blue-frog: np.
[19:16] <greg-g> Hey, curious why this apport reported bug did not have a package assigned: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/441330
[19:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 441330 in ubuntu "[ASUSTeK Computer Inc. F5RL] suspend/resume failure" [Undecided,New]
[19:34] <Rocket2DMn> greg-g, i wonder if the user removed the package when filing the bug, it should be filed against linux
[20:00] <andresmujica> en 5 min arranca clase de bug triaging en #ubuntu-classroom-es  (in spanish)
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[20:25] <Guest87221> hello, i have a problem with my sound. when an application wants audio or after some time i hear a "pop" sound. i found a forum post where it was said that this happens when the sound card driver goes into sleep and that a bug should be filled against that driver. anyone has some advice on how to collect usefull information neccesary for such a bug?
[20:37] <jmarsden> Guest87221: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems  may be useful?
[20:39] <greg-g> Rocket2DMn: yeah, figured. We at the jam here in Michigan have come across a couple of them so far like that (sorry, dont' have other links for them)
[20:39] <Guest87221> @jmardsen ill take a look at that, thanks
[20:40] <Rocket2DMn> greg-g, you guys can certainly assign the bugs to the correct package yourselves
[20:40] <Rocket2DMn> if you ever have questions about which package, just ask
[20:41] <greg-g> Rocket2DMn: oh of course, just wondering why some look like it just didn't have a package assigned by apport (no record of them being unassigned)
[20:42] <Rocket2DMn> yeah greg-g , must have happened while they were filing the bug
[20:47] <MagicFab> Hi all - I am trying to find where "Incomplete" assignment is documented.
[20:47] <MagicFab> AFAIK when someone asks a question to the bug reporter, it becomes "incomplete, assigned to reporter" but I can't find a reference to that
[20:48] <MagicFab> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Assignment is rather short on that subject :)
[20:50] <Guest87221> jmarsden: the link didnt help much in solving the problem, but was a great start for the bug report. thanks
[20:50] <jmarsden> No problem.
[20:52] <dtchen> Guest87221: i gave instructions for filing bugs in my post to ubuntu-devel{,-discuss}
[20:54] <dtchen> Guest87221: if you haven't located it, it's at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2009-May/008239.html
[20:56] <Guest87221> ok, i allready filed a bug using ubuntu-bug -p alsa-base but didnt name it power_save=10 as this doesnt happen after 10 secs from my testings.
[20:57] <dtchen> it's precisely because we enabled powerdown for your controller and codec
[20:57] <dtchen> you likely have one of conexant, realtek, or analog devices
[20:57] <dtchen> but not idt/sigmatel; we've fixed that
[20:58] <Guest87221> i think i have an intel
[20:58] <dtchen> well, that's the generic name, but that isn't what i'm referring to
[20:59] <dtchen> intel is just a brand name; it says next to nothing about the actual controller or codec
[20:59] <Guest87221> Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
[20:59] <Guest87221> or what information you need?
[21:00] <dtchen> the information i need is in your bug report
[21:00] <dtchen> that lspci line is pretty useless
[21:01] <Guest87221> ok, sry
[21:01] <dtchen> no worries
[21:01] <Guest87221> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/441661
[21:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 441661 in alsa-driver "sound "pops" "clicks"" [Undecided,New]
[21:02] <dtchen> heads-up, bugsquad/bugcontrol: those powerdown bugs should be triaged against linux _not_ alsa-driver
[21:04] <dtchen> again, this is pretty clearly stated at the top of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[21:04] <yofel> dtchen: you mean those clicks when turning the sound card on/off ?
[21:04] <dtchen> yofel: yes
[21:04] <yofel> ok
[21:07] <mercutio22> hello there.
[21:08] <Guest87221> ubuntu-bug -P alsa-base did that
[21:08] <dtchen> Guest87221: yes, i know. the note is for people going back and triaging bug reports
[21:08] <mercutio22> I em testing karmic here. I think a new bug was introduced with the latest round of upgrade. Compiz won' t start and the UNR interface is much slower
[21:08] <dtchen> too many people blithely re-triage them to affect alsa-driver incorrectly
[21:09] <mercutio22> I just filed a bug. I was wondering if other people can confirm that
[21:09] <yofel> mercutio22: bug number?
[21:09] <Guest87221> ic
[21:10] <mercutio22> yofel Bug #441683
[21:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 441683 in compiz "compiz fails to load after latest karmic (beta) upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/441683
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[22:24] <intruder1> hi there
[22:26] <yofel> hi intruder1
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[23:03] <Mez> for those who didnt see it - my video of my presentation from earlier is @ http://www.sourceguru.org/videos/7/
[23:03] <intruder1> see you
[23:03] <intruder1> bye