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erichammondI've removed mention of my Karmic AMIs from http://alestic.com in the hopes that folks will just use Canonical's and give feedback to make it unbeatable.00:00
erichammondjjohansen: I'll take info any way you want to provide it.  I'm always a fan of making it public if it doesn't risk harm.00:01
thiagocrepaldihas anyone here able to ENABLE LdapAuthentication mediawiki-extension plugin ?00:10
thiagocrepaldimediawiki-extension package looks like ubuntu specific00:10
thiagocrepaldiso, i cant find any documentation to help me =/00:10
jjohansenerichammond: public is fine, I just figured email is a nice way to store the note00:14
jjohansenanyway, here they are aki=aki-c6896aaf, ari=ari-d8896ab100:15
jjohansenoops those are x86_6400:15
erichammondYep emaill archives are nice reference, but I'll be copying the relevant info into my TODO list00:15
jjohanseni386: aki-e2896a8b ari-e4896a8d00:15
jjohansenthere are also, almost identical kernels with Hz=250 and kexec00:16
jjohansenx86_64: aki-5e896a37 ari-50896a3900:16
jjohanseni386: aki-00896a69 ari-02896a6b00:17
jjohansensmoser: ^00:17
jjohansenthe Hz=250 was to compare that vs. standard config for VOIP00:17
jjohansenthe kexec is because smoser wanted to play with it00:18
erichammondjjohansen: The manifest prefix names are looking good.  Lots of useful information.00:21
jjohansenerichammond: all your doing00:22
erichammondSomebody gets credit for taking my recommendations ;-)00:24
erichammond...and for ignoring the bad ones.  I throw enough out there that a few must be good just by chance.00:24
jjohansen:)00:25
Saj0577hey guys, i connected via ftp in a temrinal how do i copy files to my pc?00:28
jjohansenSaj0577: get <filename>00:30
Saj0577cheers. and what about if i want to specify where it saves them? or is there a config file for this?00:31
bventurasaj: do an "lcd" to the location where you want to save it00:32
Saj0577bventura: cheers you got a guide or anythin anywhere with them all in a readable format?00:32
jjohansenSaj0577: you can also do> get <remote-file> <local-file>00:32
bventurausually it starts you out in your home directory00:32
jjohansenSaj0577: you may also need to set your transfer mode00:33
jjohansenSaj0577: >binary00:33
jjohansenSaj0577: >ascii00:33
Saj0577jjohansen: okay cheers.00:34
jjohansenbinary tells ftp not touch the data, ascii it does things to the data00:34
bventurashhesh I'm loking for one Saj but everything that comes up on google is wayyy to verbose00:34
Saj0577bventura: okay cheers00:34
bventuramaybe, try researching the terminal commands "cd" and "pwd" and go from there it's the same thing as in FTP00:35
Saj0577oright yeah im fine with normal terminal so if its just the same role on hehe00:36
bventurayeah everything is the same, just prefix it with "l" to run the command on your PC's local side00:36
bventuramostly the same00:36
Saj0577okay thanks alot :)00:37
bventuranp00:37
bventura.00:41
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tarvidwhere do I post kernel net driver bugs?02:57
tarvidhow does one post a bug report at all?03:05
erichammondtarvid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs03:10
tarvidI've been on that page and I still cannot figure out how to file a bug03:11
tarvidinsmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.28-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/sundance.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module03:11
tarvidIt's been broken for three years and I picked up the wrong card on the way home tonight03:12
tarvidThat's one way to reduce the number of reported bugs.03:21
Saj0577hey tarvid just read whats you been saying03:22
tarvidI have an iptables rule set that works for me, how would I import it to ufw03:22
Saj0577dont normally hang here but im sure i can help. so you keep getting a bug and your having truble reporting it?03:22
tarvidI should just throw that card out. It works in that other operating system and works on Fedora but is still broken in Debian/Ubuntu03:23
tarvidI have the precise error message and the kernel module which fails03:23
tarvidbut ubuntu-bug wants to file it under yelp and include tons of irrelevant information03:24
tarvidit will get passed upstream if handled at all03:24
Saj0577if you pastebin everything you know about the problem then that will probably be of help.and i will look into how you submit the bug report now for you03:25
tarvidthe problem is the one line above03:25
Saj0577uknown symbol in module one?03:26
tarvidyes03:26
tarvidsyslog has a few more lines03:26
tarvidbut the error is basic - fundamental03:27
Saj0577kk03:27
tarvidSome have recompiled the Fedora code. I'll throw the card away anyway. It is not worth the effort03:28
Saj0577hehe. is it some old card you had lieing around for yearS?lol03:28
tarvidBut I had the urge tonight to unwind ufw03:28
tarvidI had forgotten why it was laying on the shelf but now I remember.03:29
tarvidNow much call for nics these days. I need to sandbox ufw03:29
tarvidwhich also deserves a bug report03:30
tarvidyou should be able to start with iptables-save03:30
tarvidtrying to map the existing rule set into ufw is not uncomplicated03:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #296159 in vm-builder "ec2exec: quotes not needed in sed command" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29615903:32
jdstrandtarvid: if you do not want to use ufw, simply do 'sudo ufw disable'. it unloads the firewall and won't be loaded on boot. if you want to completely flush everything, '/lib/ufw/ufw-init flush-all'03:50
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tarvidI want to use ufw but I want to start with my existing firewall rules04:01
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foxbuntuwow04:46
foxbuntuwhoops04:46
foxbuntuwrong channel :)04:46
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zloyrusskiyhi, there, i wanna know - is somebody compared performance of iScsi and samba?08:43
zloyrusskiywith samba i have performance with my home server about ~35mb/s, is there some reason to migrate to iscsi?08:45
andguen1We're awfully quiet today...11:02
_rubenits weeekend11:05
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VK7HSEgetting over the shock and awe of Beta! ;)11:27
andguen1i shudder at life before bittorrent :)11:29
andguen1boostar: Now, I'll happily answer it here, that other channel is awfully noisy :)12:14
BooStarah ok thanks12:14
andguen1Feel free to ask the question again just so others know what we are talking about though..12:15
andguen1Can I assume you are able to run the server process normally? Are you familiar with how to get other various daemons running at startup?12:15
BooStarok, so i installed the dhcp3-server to use ist for pxeboot and it worked very good but if i restart the server the dhcp3-server wont start up12:16
BooStari have to run /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start manualy12:17
BooStarother deamons like apache2 are starting during the boot12:18
andguen1try 'update-rc.d dhcp3-server defaults'12:18
BooStarSystem startup links for /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server already exist.12:18
andguen1then give me a 'find /etc/rc*|grep dhcp' output12:19
BooStar/etc/rc1.d/K40dhcp3-server12:19
BooStari get this frome 1 to 512:20
andguen1odd12:20
BooStarrc1.d to rc5.d12:20
BooStarodd?12:20
andguen1the "K" on the front of the file means explicitly kill it12:21
andguen1it should be killing in rc0.d and rc6.d, but not 1-512:21
BooStarok.. there is a file in which this was asked12:22
BooStari try to remember ;)12:22
BooStari think i need to edit this http://de.pastebin.ca/159044612:25
BooStarright?12:25
andguen1It MIGHT be worth renaming K40dhcp3-server to S40dhcp3-server within /etc/rc3.d --- I usually don't go such brute force, but its probably the easiest way to make it work.12:25
BooStarok i try12:25
andguen1I looked at that pastebin, but I'm not familiar with the file itself, the start and stop numbers I agree with though12:26
BooStarthere is not k40* file in /etc/rc3.d12:28
andguen1cd /etc/rc3.d && ln -s /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server S40dhcp3-server12:31
andguen1brute force method :)12:31
andguen1Then do a 'less /etc/rc3.d/S40dhcp3-server' and make sure it doesn't give you any errors opening the file12:32
BooStarre12:41
BooStari tried to link the file but it already exists12:42
andguen1?12:42
BooStarcd /etc/rc3.d && ln -s /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server S40dhcp3-server12:42
BooStarln: Erzeuge symbolische Verknüpfung „S40dhcp3-server“: File exists12:42
andguen1can you give me a 'find /etc/rc*|grep dhcp' output again?12:43
andguen1if the S40 exists, it should be starting up12:43
BooStarsure12:43
andguen1In that case, you may have startup issues, it might be worth a 'grep dhcp /var/log/syslog'12:44
BooStarhttp://de.pastebin.ca/159046612:44
BooStarroot@andreas-server:/etc/rc3.d# /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server status12:45
BooStarStatus of DHCP server: dhcpd3 is not running.12:45
andguen1This is the setup we were looking for earlier. I'm confused how it got fixed, but I'm ok with it.12:45
BooStarthis is strange.. i thoungth its hard to setup a pxeboot ;)12:45
andguen1Heh, pxe drives me crazy.12:45
BooStarhehe... its workin on my system12:46
andguen1In theroy, this should now work correctly on reboot. If /etc/rc3.d/K40dhcp was just recently changed to /etc/rc3.d/S40dhcp, that should fix your problem12:47
BooStarshould i rename it?12:47
andguen1If it does not, definitely check on dhcp errors in /var/log/syslog and dmesg (the command)12:47
andguen1based on your last pastebin, you are good12:48
BooStaris there a way to run a command on startup? mabe something linke /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart ?12:50
andguen1Edit /etc/rc.local and add what commands you want there. You shouldn't have to do this, but it likely will work.12:51
BooStarok.. first i try to reboot again ...12:52
BooStarre13:03
andguen1any luck?13:03
BooStarit works after i added the /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server comand to the rcc.conf13:04
BooStari think its not the best way but it works13:04
andguen1rc.local you mean?13:04
BooStarmaybe ;13:04
andguen1yea, not the best way. The biggest challenge now is remembering its there in 2 years when you have to troubleshoot it next time. :)13:05
BooStaryeah.. rc.local13:05
BooStarhm i write any changes to a wiki13:06
andguen1good idea13:06
BooStarthx13:06
BooStarbut its a lot of work13:06
BooStarbut its nice to have this13:07
BooStaranyway... maybe i can help you with your pxeboot...13:08
BooStaror does it work already ?13:08
andguen1eh, not currently a priority. I got out of IT a year ago. Thanks for the offer though.13:08
andguen1best of luck with your setup13:09
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BooStarthanks a lot13:10
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dutchiehaving trouble with SASL auth after following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix14:32
dutchietestsaslauthd gives a success14:33
dutchiebut Evolution won't send and I can't authenticate manually with nc14:34
uvirtbotNew bug: #427896 in samba (main) "Cannot unmount a windows network share." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42789614:47
uvirtbotNew bug: #406466 in samba (main) "cifs mount on NAS-share with empty directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40646614:49
dutchiehaving trouble with SASL auth after following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix15:42
dutchietestsaslauthd gives a success15:42
dutchiebut Evolution won't send and I can't authenticate manually with nc15:42
ScottKWhat do the postfix logs say about it?15:51
dutchiewhich one should I look at?15:51
ScottK/var/log/mail.log has everything, but check .warn and .error first15:52
ScottK(this is on your server)15:53
dutchiehttp://pastebin.com/f41ce666115:56
dutchiethat's .warn15:56
ScottKProbably need to look at does Postfix in it's chroot have access to saslauthd.16:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #441406 in php5 (main) "php5 crashed with SIGSEGV in clone()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44140616:01
ScottKdutchie: What Ubuntu release are you running?16:02
ScottKI suspect if you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix#Authentication carefully, I suspect you'll find you missed a step.16:03
dutchieScottK: Karmic16:03
dutchieno, hardy sorry16:03
ScottKdutchie: My recommendation though is to go and use the official docs for this: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html16:05
ScottKYou'll be better off in the long run to do it that way since people will better be able to help you here.16:05
dutchieright, screw authentication, I'll just use the dyndns thing to identify16:45
dutchiewhich config option should I set in /etc/postfix/main.cf?16:45
ScottKdutchie: Probably all you need to do get authentication working is unchroot postfix16:46
ScottKIf you want the quick and easy way16:46
dutchieis that bad in any way?16:46
ScottKIt's in theory slighlty less secure.16:47
ScottKIn the scheme of things it's way better than 'screw authentication'16:48
dutchieit will probably not be the most insecure thing on that server16:48
ScottK;-)16:48
ScottKYou have to work at making postfix insecure.  Some people manage, but I have no idea how.16:49
dutchiedo I have to change anything apart from the one line in master.cf?16:49
ScottKIIRC it's more than one, but I don't have time to look it up right now.16:50
ScottKI think what the guide you were following had is correct (it hasn't changed in more recent postfix)16:51
uvirtbotNew bug: #440206 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "123456" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44020616:56
dutchie it still won't authenticate even outside the chroot17:07
uvirtbotNew bug: #441498 in samba (main) "missing alternatives/defaults for testparm, net and nmblookup" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44149817:47
ScottKdutchie: Did you restart postfix?18:05
dutchieScottK: yes, and it still doesn't work18:36
ScottKOK, I'd follow the server guide link I gave you earlier.18:50
cumulus007Hi, as an Ubuntu translator, I noticed the presence of the Ubuntu Server Guide as a translatable package18:53
cumulus007I have a question regarding this: where are translated versions of this guide to be found?18:53
ScottKsommer: ^^19:03
cumulus007I'm interested in translation the guide only if the translations will be used somewhere19:05
ScottKUnderstandably.19:06
ScottKThat's why I pinged sommer.  He's the one that mostly takes care of it.19:06
cumulus007*translating. Okay :)19:06
ScottKIIRC it's available as an installed package on Ubuntu Server and I'd guess that's where the localized form of it exists.19:07
cumulus007yes I noticed that, but I think more users would be satisfied with an online PDF version of the document rather than that package, since reading documents on the console isn't very pleasant to do19:10
ScottKI don't know how hard that would be to do.19:12
* ScottK doesn't know a huge amount about translations.19:12
cumulus007ScottK, there is already a PDF version available, though not translated19:13
ScottKI don't know how that one gets built.19:13
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uvirtbotNew bug: #441621 in samba (main) "samba crashed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44162120:06
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pmatuliscumulus007: the documentation team handles translations of the official docs20:58
MagicFabpmatulis, come to #ubuntu-qc20:59
cumulus007pmatulis, I asked it them in their IRC channel but I had no luck with feedback21:00
toddobryanCould somebody walk me through deciding how to implement LDAP/Kerberos on a school lab that I administer.21:01
toddobryan?21:01
pmatuliscumulus007: the official docs are hosted on launchpad21:01
cumulus007they are? Are they accessible in Wiki-style or something?21:02
JanCyou can read them on help.ubuntu.com, but only in English21:02
toddobryanIt's a thin client lab, with three servers, so I really need centralized login/user info, but I've hit brick walls several times trying to go through HowTos.21:02
pmatuliscumulus007: bzr repo21:03
cumulus007But that's not really user-friendly, is it21:03
cumulus007Translated versions of the server guide should be available for consulting online in either PDF format or in a way like the current English documentation is built21:05
cumulus007It may be a good idea to file a bug about this issue21:05
pmatuliscumulus007: 'bzr branch lp:ubuntu-docs'21:05
pmatuliscumulus007: the official docs are what make up help.ubuntu.com21:06
pmatuliscumulus007: they are also on your desktop system21:06
pmatuliscumulus007: see 'System > Help and Support' and search for 'server guide'21:07
cumulus007I can't find them there21:09
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cumulus007never mind, got it21:11
cumulus007Don't forget that a server doesn't have a nice GUI to consult the server guide ;)21:12
cumulus007I really think it should be a great idea to make the translated versions of Ubuntu documentation available online, along with the English version21:12
pmatuliscumulus007: join the documentation team and/or send a suggestion to their mailing list21:14
cumulus007That's a good idea and I think I'm going to do that, or at least file a bug report21:14
pmatuliscumulus007: what i find weird is that they impose a "string freeze" after which the docs cannot be changed.  for example that freeze is presently in effect for karmic.  no more changes to the karmic docs  :(21:17
pwnguinusually these things have exceptions21:17
pwnguinmeaning you have a formal review process for change instead of whatever goes21:18
pmatulissure, sure21:18
pmatulisthing is, people need to use a release and then document21:18
pmatulisright now they have about a month after feature freeze21:18
pwnguinthe other thing is, i believe you're mistaking string freeze for translations freeze21:18
pmatulisah perhaps21:19
pwnguinbut maybe not21:19
pmatulisbut i was told something pretty clear a couple of weeks ago21:19
pmatulisthere is no good reason to impose a documentation freeze at all21:20
pwnguinthe idea is21:22
pwnguintranslators shouldn't have to translate every version of a string21:22
cumulus007pmatulis, a freeze is important for translators so they can translate without having the risk that their translation is lost the next day because the string changed21:23
cumulus007anyway, thanks for your information about the server docs21:23
cumulus007good night :)21:23
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Weasel[DK]is dcc-client not available for Hardy any more ?22:30
JanCWeasel[DK]: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dcc-client --> not as a separate package at least?22:58
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Weasel[DK]JanC, right... it has vanished for some reason ?23:17

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