[00:00] <erichammond> I've removed mention of my Karmic AMIs from http://alestic.com in the hopes that folks will just use Canonical's and give feedback to make it unbeatable.
[00:01] <erichammond> jjohansen: I'll take info any way you want to provide it.  I'm always a fan of making it public if it doesn't risk harm.
[00:10] <thiagocrepaldi> has anyone here able to ENABLE LdapAuthentication mediawiki-extension plugin ?
[00:10] <thiagocrepaldi> mediawiki-extension package looks like ubuntu specific
[00:10] <thiagocrepaldi> so, i cant find any documentation to help me =/
[00:14] <jjohansen> erichammond: public is fine, I just figured email is a nice way to store the note
[00:15] <jjohansen> anyway, here they are aki=aki-c6896aaf, ari=ari-d8896ab1
[00:15] <jjohansen> oops those are x86_64
[00:15] <erichammond> Yep emaill archives are nice reference, but I'll be copying the relevant info into my TODO list
[00:15] <jjohansen> i386: aki-e2896a8b ari-e4896a8d
[00:16] <jjohansen> there are also, almost identical kernels with Hz=250 and kexec
[00:16] <jjohansen> x86_64: aki-5e896a37 ari-50896a39
[00:17] <jjohansen> i386: aki-00896a69 ari-02896a6b
[00:17] <jjohansen> smoser: ^
[00:17] <jjohansen> the Hz=250 was to compare that vs. standard config for VOIP
[00:18] <jjohansen> the kexec is because smoser wanted to play with it
[00:21] <erichammond> jjohansen: The manifest prefix names are looking good.  Lots of useful information.
[00:22] <jjohansen> erichammond: all your doing
[00:24] <erichammond> Somebody gets credit for taking my recommendations ;-)
[00:24] <erichammond> ...and for ignoring the bad ones.  I throw enough out there that a few must be good just by chance.
[00:25] <jjohansen> :)
[00:28] <Saj0577> hey guys, i connected via ftp in a temrinal how do i copy files to my pc?
[00:30] <jjohansen> Saj0577: get <filename>
[00:31] <Saj0577> cheers. and what about if i want to specify where it saves them? or is there a config file for this?
[00:32] <bventura> saj: do an "lcd" to the location where you want to save it
[00:32] <Saj0577> bventura: cheers you got a guide or anythin anywhere with them all in a readable format?
[00:32] <jjohansen> Saj0577: you can also do> get <remote-file> <local-file>
[00:32] <bventura> usually it starts you out in your home directory
[00:33] <jjohansen> Saj0577: you may also need to set your transfer mode
[00:33] <jjohansen> Saj0577: >binary
[00:33] <jjohansen> Saj0577: >ascii
[00:34] <Saj0577> jjohansen: okay cheers.
[00:34] <jjohansen> binary tells ftp not touch the data, ascii it does things to the data
[00:34] <bventura> shhesh I'm loking for one Saj but everything that comes up on google is wayyy to verbose
[00:34] <Saj0577> bventura: okay cheers
[00:35] <bventura> maybe, try researching the terminal commands "cd" and "pwd" and go from there it's the same thing as in FTP
[00:36] <Saj0577> oright yeah im fine with normal terminal so if its just the same role on hehe
[00:36] <bventura> yeah everything is the same, just prefix it with "l" to run the command on your PC's local side
[00:36] <bventura> mostly the same
[00:37] <Saj0577> okay thanks alot :)
[00:37] <bventura> np
[00:41] <bventura> .
[02:57] <tarvid> where do I post kernel net driver bugs?
[03:05] <tarvid> how does one post a bug report at all?
[03:10] <erichammond> tarvid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[03:11] <tarvid> I've been on that page and I still cannot figure out how to file a bug
[03:11] <tarvid> insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.28-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/sundance.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[03:12] <tarvid> It's been broken for three years and I picked up the wrong card on the way home tonight
[03:21] <tarvid> That's one way to reduce the number of reported bugs.
[03:22] <Saj0577> hey tarvid just read whats you been saying
[03:22] <tarvid> I have an iptables rule set that works for me, how would I import it to ufw
[03:22] <Saj0577> dont normally hang here but im sure i can help. so you keep getting a bug and your having truble reporting it?
[03:23] <tarvid> I should just throw that card out. It works in that other operating system and works on Fedora but is still broken in Debian/Ubuntu
[03:23] <tarvid> I have the precise error message and the kernel module which fails
[03:24] <tarvid> but ubuntu-bug wants to file it under yelp and include tons of irrelevant information
[03:24] <tarvid> it will get passed upstream if handled at all
[03:25] <Saj0577> if you pastebin everything you know about the problem then that will probably be of help.and i will look into how you submit the bug report now for you
[03:25] <tarvid> the problem is the one line above
[03:26] <Saj0577> uknown symbol in module one?
[03:26] <tarvid> yes
[03:26] <tarvid> syslog has a few more lines
[03:27] <tarvid> but the error is basic - fundamental
[03:27] <Saj0577> kk
[03:28] <tarvid> Some have recompiled the Fedora code. I'll throw the card away anyway. It is not worth the effort
[03:28] <Saj0577> hehe. is it some old card you had lieing around for yearS?lol
[03:28] <tarvid> But I had the urge tonight to unwind ufw
[03:29] <tarvid> I had forgotten why it was laying on the shelf but now I remember.
[03:29] <tarvid> Now much call for nics these days. I need to sandbox ufw
[03:30] <tarvid> which also deserves a bug report
[03:30] <tarvid> you should be able to start with iptables-save
[03:31] <tarvid> trying to map the existing rule set into ufw is not uncomplicated
[03:50] <jdstrand> tarvid: if you do not want to use ufw, simply do 'sudo ufw disable'. it unloads the firewall and won't be loaded on boot. if you want to completely flush everything, '/lib/ufw/ufw-init flush-all'
[04:01] <tarvid> I want to use ufw but I want to start with my existing firewall rules
[04:46] <foxbuntu> wow
[04:46] <foxbuntu> whoops
[04:46] <foxbuntu> wrong channel :)
[08:43] <zloyrusskiy> hi, there, i wanna know - is somebody compared performance of iScsi and samba?
[08:45] <zloyrusskiy> with samba i have performance with my home server about ~35mb/s, is there some reason to migrate to iscsi?
[11:02] <andguen1> We're awfully quiet today...
[11:05] <_ruben> its weeekend
[11:27] <VK7HSE> getting over the shock and awe of Beta! ;)
[11:29] <andguen1> i shudder at life before bittorrent :)
[12:14] <andguen1> boostar: Now, I'll happily answer it here, that other channel is awfully noisy :)
[12:14] <BooStar> ah ok thanks
[12:15] <andguen1> Feel free to ask the question again just so others know what we are talking about though..
[12:15] <andguen1> Can I assume you are able to run the server process normally? Are you familiar with how to get other various daemons running at startup?
[12:16] <BooStar> ok, so i installed the dhcp3-server to use ist for pxeboot and it worked very good but if i restart the server the dhcp3-server wont start up
[12:17] <BooStar> i have to run /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start manualy
[12:18] <BooStar> other deamons like apache2 are starting during the boot
[12:18] <andguen1> try 'update-rc.d dhcp3-server defaults'
[12:18] <BooStar> System startup links for /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server already exist.
[12:19] <andguen1> then give me a 'find /etc/rc*|grep dhcp' output
[12:19] <BooStar> /etc/rc1.d/K40dhcp3-server
[12:20] <BooStar> i get this frome 1 to 5
[12:20] <andguen1> odd
[12:20] <BooStar> rc1.d to rc5.d
[12:20] <BooStar> odd?
[12:21] <andguen1> the "K" on the front of the file means explicitly kill it
[12:21] <andguen1> it should be killing in rc0.d and rc6.d, but not 1-5
[12:22] <BooStar> ok.. there is a file in which this was asked
[12:22] <BooStar> i try to remember ;)
[12:25] <BooStar> i think i need to edit this http://de.pastebin.ca/1590446
[12:25] <BooStar> right?
[12:25] <andguen1> It MIGHT be worth renaming K40dhcp3-server to S40dhcp3-server within /etc/rc3.d --- I usually don't go such brute force, but its probably the easiest way to make it work.
[12:25] <BooStar> ok i try
[12:26] <andguen1> I looked at that pastebin, but I'm not familiar with the file itself, the start and stop numbers I agree with though
[12:28] <BooStar> there is not k40* file in /etc/rc3.d
[12:31] <andguen1> cd /etc/rc3.d && ln -s /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server S40dhcp3-server
[12:31] <andguen1> brute force method :)
[12:32] <andguen1> Then do a 'less /etc/rc3.d/S40dhcp3-server' and make sure it doesn't give you any errors opening the file
[12:41] <BooStar> re
[12:42] <BooStar> i tried to link the file but it already exists
[12:42] <andguen1> ?
[12:42] <BooStar> cd /etc/rc3.d && ln -s /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server S40dhcp3-server
[12:42] <BooStar> ln: Erzeuge symbolische Verknüpfung „S40dhcp3-server“: File exists
[12:43] <andguen1> can you give me a 'find /etc/rc*|grep dhcp' output again?
[12:43] <andguen1> if the S40 exists, it should be starting up
[12:43] <BooStar> sure
[12:44] <andguen1> In that case, you may have startup issues, it might be worth a 'grep dhcp /var/log/syslog'
[12:44] <BooStar> http://de.pastebin.ca/1590466
[12:45] <BooStar> root@andreas-server:/etc/rc3.d# /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server status
[12:45] <BooStar> Status of DHCP server: dhcpd3 is not running.
[12:45] <andguen1> This is the setup we were looking for earlier. I'm confused how it got fixed, but I'm ok with it.
[12:45] <BooStar> this is strange.. i thoungth its hard to setup a pxeboot ;)
[12:45] <andguen1> Heh, pxe drives me crazy.
[12:46] <BooStar> hehe... its workin on my system
[12:47] <andguen1> In theroy, this should now work correctly on reboot. If /etc/rc3.d/K40dhcp was just recently changed to /etc/rc3.d/S40dhcp, that should fix your problem
[12:47] <BooStar> should i rename it?
[12:47] <andguen1> If it does not, definitely check on dhcp errors in /var/log/syslog and dmesg (the command)
[12:48] <andguen1> based on your last pastebin, you are good
[12:50] <BooStar> is there a way to run a command on startup? mabe something linke /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart ?
[12:51] <andguen1> Edit /etc/rc.local and add what commands you want there. You shouldn't have to do this, but it likely will work.
[12:52] <BooStar> ok.. first i try to reboot again ...
[13:03] <BooStar> re
[13:03] <andguen1> any luck?
[13:04] <BooStar> it works after i added the /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server comand to the rcc.conf
[13:04] <BooStar> i think its not the best way but it works
[13:04] <andguen1> rc.local you mean?
[13:04] <BooStar> maybe ;
[13:05] <andguen1> yea, not the best way. The biggest challenge now is remembering its there in 2 years when you have to troubleshoot it next time. :)
[13:05] <BooStar> yeah.. rc.local
[13:06] <BooStar> hm i write any changes to a wiki
[13:06] <andguen1> good idea
[13:06] <BooStar> thx
[13:06] <BooStar> but its a lot of work
[13:07] <BooStar> but its nice to have this
[13:08] <BooStar> anyway... maybe i can help you with your pxeboot...
[13:08] <BooStar> or does it work already ?
[13:08] <andguen1> eh, not currently a priority. I got out of IT a year ago. Thanks for the offer though.
[13:09] <andguen1> best of luck with your setup
[13:10] <BooStar> thanks a lot
[14:32] <dutchie> having trouble with SASL auth after following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[14:33] <dutchie> testsaslauthd gives a success
[14:34] <dutchie> but Evolution won't send and I can't authenticate manually with nc
[15:42] <dutchie> having trouble with SASL auth after following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[15:42] <dutchie> testsaslauthd gives a success
[15:42] <dutchie> but Evolution won't send and I can't authenticate manually with nc
[15:51] <ScottK> What do the postfix logs say about it?
[15:51] <dutchie> which one should I look at?
[15:52] <ScottK> /var/log/mail.log has everything, but check .warn and .error first
[15:53] <ScottK> (this is on your server)
[15:56] <dutchie> http://pastebin.com/f41ce6661
[15:56] <dutchie> that's .warn
[16:01] <ScottK> Probably need to look at does Postfix in it's chroot have access to saslauthd.
[16:02] <ScottK> dutchie: What Ubuntu release are you running?
[16:03] <ScottK> I suspect if you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix#Authentication carefully, I suspect you'll find you missed a step.
[16:03] <dutchie> ScottK: Karmic
[16:03] <dutchie> no, hardy sorry
[16:05] <ScottK> dutchie: My recommendation though is to go and use the official docs for this: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[16:05] <ScottK> You'll be better off in the long run to do it that way since people will better be able to help you here.
[16:45] <dutchie> right, screw authentication, I'll just use the dyndns thing to identify
[16:45] <dutchie> which config option should I set in /etc/postfix/main.cf?
[16:46] <ScottK> dutchie: Probably all you need to do get authentication working is unchroot postfix
[16:46] <ScottK> If you want the quick and easy way
[16:46] <dutchie> is that bad in any way?
[16:47] <ScottK> It's in theory slighlty less secure.
[16:48] <ScottK> In the scheme of things it's way better than 'screw authentication'
[16:48] <dutchie> it will probably not be the most insecure thing on that server
[16:48] <ScottK> ;-)
[16:49] <ScottK> You have to work at making postfix insecure.  Some people manage, but I have no idea how.
[16:49] <dutchie> do I have to change anything apart from the one line in master.cf?
[16:50] <ScottK> IIRC it's more than one, but I don't have time to look it up right now.
[16:51] <ScottK> I think what the guide you were following had is correct (it hasn't changed in more recent postfix)
[17:07] <dutchie>  it still won't authenticate even outside the chroot
[18:05] <ScottK> dutchie: Did you restart postfix?
[18:36] <dutchie> ScottK: yes, and it still doesn't work
[18:50] <ScottK> OK, I'd follow the server guide link I gave you earlier.
[18:53] <cumulus007> Hi, as an Ubuntu translator, I noticed the presence of the Ubuntu Server Guide as a translatable package
[18:53] <cumulus007> I have a question regarding this: where are translated versions of this guide to be found?
[19:03] <ScottK> sommer: ^^
[19:05] <cumulus007> I'm interested in translation the guide only if the translations will be used somewhere
[19:06] <ScottK> Understandably.
[19:06] <ScottK> That's why I pinged sommer.  He's the one that mostly takes care of it.
[19:06] <cumulus007> *translating. Okay :)
[19:07] <ScottK> IIRC it's available as an installed package on Ubuntu Server and I'd guess that's where the localized form of it exists.
[19:10] <cumulus007> yes I noticed that, but I think more users would be satisfied with an online PDF version of the document rather than that package, since reading documents on the console isn't very pleasant to do
[19:12] <ScottK> I don't know how hard that would be to do.
[19:12]  * ScottK doesn't know a huge amount about translations.
[19:13] <cumulus007> ScottK, there is already a PDF version available, though not translated
[19:13] <ScottK> I don't know how that one gets built.
[20:58] <pmatulis> cumulus007: the documentation team handles translations of the official docs
[20:59] <MagicFab> pmatulis, come to #ubuntu-qc
[21:00] <cumulus007> pmatulis, I asked it them in their IRC channel but I had no luck with feedback
[21:01] <toddobryan> Could somebody walk me through deciding how to implement LDAP/Kerberos on a school lab that I administer.
[21:01] <toddobryan> ?
[21:01] <pmatulis> cumulus007: the official docs are hosted on launchpad
[21:02] <cumulus007> they are? Are they accessible in Wiki-style or something?
[21:02] <JanC> you can read them on help.ubuntu.com, but only in English
[21:02] <toddobryan> It's a thin client lab, with three servers, so I really need centralized login/user info, but I've hit brick walls several times trying to go through HowTos.
[21:03] <pmatulis> cumulus007: bzr repo
[21:03] <cumulus007> But that's not really user-friendly, is it
[21:05] <cumulus007> Translated versions of the server guide should be available for consulting online in either PDF format or in a way like the current English documentation is built
[21:05] <cumulus007> It may be a good idea to file a bug about this issue
[21:05] <pmatulis> cumulus007: 'bzr branch lp:ubuntu-docs'
[21:06] <pmatulis> cumulus007: the official docs are what make up help.ubuntu.com
[21:06] <pmatulis> cumulus007: they are also on your desktop system
[21:07] <pmatulis> cumulus007: see 'System > Help and Support' and search for 'server guide'
[21:09] <cumulus007> I can't find them there
[21:11] <cumulus007> never mind, got it
[21:12] <cumulus007> Don't forget that a server doesn't have a nice GUI to consult the server guide ;)
[21:12] <cumulus007> I really think it should be a great idea to make the translated versions of Ubuntu documentation available online, along with the English version
[21:14] <pmatulis> cumulus007: join the documentation team and/or send a suggestion to their mailing list
[21:14] <cumulus007> That's a good idea and I think I'm going to do that, or at least file a bug report
[21:17] <pmatulis> cumulus007: what i find weird is that they impose a "string freeze" after which the docs cannot be changed.  for example that freeze is presently in effect for karmic.  no more changes to the karmic docs  :(
[21:17] <pwnguin> usually these things have exceptions
[21:18] <pwnguin> meaning you have a formal review process for change instead of whatever goes
[21:18] <pmatulis> sure, sure
[21:18] <pmatulis> thing is, people need to use a release and then document
[21:18] <pmatulis> right now they have about a month after feature freeze
[21:18] <pwnguin> the other thing is, i believe you're mistaking string freeze for translations freeze
[21:19] <pmatulis> ah perhaps
[21:19] <pwnguin> but maybe not
[21:19] <pmatulis> but i was told something pretty clear a couple of weeks ago
[21:20] <pmatulis> there is no good reason to impose a documentation freeze at all
[21:22] <pwnguin> the idea is
[21:22] <pwnguin> translators shouldn't have to translate every version of a string
[21:23] <cumulus007> pmatulis, a freeze is important for translators so they can translate without having the risk that their translation is lost the next day because the string changed
[21:23] <cumulus007> anyway, thanks for your information about the server docs
[21:23] <cumulus007> good night :)
[22:30] <Weasel[DK]> is dcc-client not available for Hardy any more ?
[22:58] <JanC> Weasel[DK]: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dcc-client --> not as a separate package at least?
[23:17] <Weasel[DK]> JanC, right... it has vanished for some reason ?