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lamalexIs anyone from the design team around?15:27
kwwiihi lamalex 15:40
lamalexHey kwwii, I was wondering if someone from the design team could look at some UI for me and maybe give me some pointers for improvement15:42
lamalexI'm designing the contact selector for the telepathization of GNOME games for GNOME 3.015:45
lamalexhttp://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2994/screenshot010z.png15:45
lamalexwhat I'm thinking I'm also going to do is do emblems, like Nautilus does of the contact's presense info on there15:45
lamalexkwwii: sound/look good?15:57
mac_vlamalex: hi... how are the contacts appearing there? i mean , is it auto imported from the telepathy's contact list or is list only from users already you'v played with?16:12
lamalexmac_v: it's from telepathy it's contacts that telepathy are identifying as contacts you can play with, and as people sign on/sign off contacts come and go16:14
lamalexwe dont keep any kind of static list if that's what you're asking16:14
mac_vlamalex: oh... ok.. yeah ,i thought there was a static list... but could the logged in users be sorted as users who you have played with previously and just online contacts. Since its in a game , it would be nice if there were 2 columns of those.16:44
lamalexmac_v: like two sections? one with people you've played with, and one with everyone?17:28
mac_vlamalex: yeah  , more like two columns , the left column people you'v played with... right>  online contacts and instead of names below the user's pictures ... names beside the user's foto , so that would allow to add more info about the user... 17:30
mac_vmore info as in ... soemthing like , lost/won with user N times17:31
mac_vor something , about the status of user17:31
lamalexmac_v: that's getting to be way too much info17:38
lamalexhow about something like this http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6126/selectormockupcategorie.png17:38
lamalexmac_v: the reason I'm asking is because we're designing a contact selector widget for all of the gnome games to use. So maybe in the API for it I could allow tooltips to be set on the contacts that could show some stats17:39
lamalexbut i dont think it should be in the general area17:39
mac_vlamalex: yeah , something like that... but the 4 columns seems a bit over-crowded , the tooltips is a nice idea instead of adding info in the general area... its better to have the view simpler  and more spaced out that was the reason i suggested names beside the picture,  , arrange the friends you'v played in order of frequency of games played [the number of games should not be displayed though]17:46
lamalexmac_v: status -> alphabetical is definitely the way to organize friends17:47
lamalexpossible not even by status and just alphabetically17:47
mac_valso , the contacts shouldnt repeat in the "everyone" 17:48
lamalexthen it's not everyone, they absolutely should repeat17:48
lamalexappearing in two places isn't necessarily a bad thing. The person appears in two groups, and should be represented in two groups17:49
mac_vlamalex: oh , i meant the frequency arrange order for the "players you'v already played with"... person appearing in the two groups is not bad... but rather not needed... since the second list will also be bigger. we can minimize the second "everyone" list  imagine you'v played with 20 friends of the 30 , so there is unnecessary 20 in both , and the second list would be long  , this we can minimize by not repeating17:51
lamalexwell I think that's a failing of the "friends you've played with" group existing at all. I'm not really convinced it's very valuable17:53
lamalexif you remove people from the other group, now you kind of have to remember if you've played with the person or not to be able to find them17:53
lamalexwhich you may remember, may not. depends how long it's been17:53
mac_vthe "everyone" needs to be rather > "Other online friends"17:54
lamalexI just addressed that17:54
lamalex12:53 < lamalex> if you remove people from the other group, now you kind of have to remember if  you've played with the person or not to be able to find them17:55
mac_voh , irc delay17:55
mac_v;)17:55
lamalexah, ok :)17:55
lamalexI think that one group of everyone is probably best, and maybe show a row of the people you play most with17:55
lamalexso that if you play with someone all the time they're at the top very easy to find17:56
mac_vlamalex: yeah... , but when the list of the friends played with grows and if you play with all 30 friends ;) ? , then the everyone is repeated in both places... so either the list is a single one or two groups with no repetition is better17:58
lamalexmac_v: that's what I just addressed- don't show everyone you've played with17:59
lamalexshow one row, and show the friends you've played most with17:59
mac_voh... i misread!17:59
lamalexthat keeps it from getting unwieldy, but also gives you access to your friends you play most with quickly18:00
mac_vlamalex: when you mentioned row , i thought 2 groups and first row for ... never mind ;)  yeah that is better :)18:00
mac_vwhat you mentioned last 18:00
lamalexI agree18:00
mac_vlamalex: is the window size resizable or fixed?... you might wanna consider having 3 columns , four seems a bit crowded18:11
mac_vwith more space 18:11
lamalexmac_v: it's resizable and yah i agree it needs more spacing18:22
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