| JontheEchidna | hmm... we have a messages.sh in the source so a pot should be generated | 00:06 |
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| JontheEchidna | I wonder if any are in the import queue to launchpad | 00:06 |
| ScottK | yuriy: The short version of the process is find dpm online and beat on him until templates appear. | 00:10 |
| nixternal | hrmm...mindmapping is interesting...I want something where I can jot it down on paper, take it to an app, draw it out in a diagram easily....just tried out semantik, don't think that is the way to go...what do you use to do stuff like this? | 00:12 |
| nixternal | besides a piece of paper | 00:12 |
| nixternal | hrmm, guess nobody mind maps that is a developer...all of the mind mapping apps are out of date in the repos | 00:16 |
| ScottK | Would be too ugly to see the light of day | 00:20 |
| nixternal | heh, so true | 00:24 |
| nixternal | FYI: for you that want to mind map, vym it is...qt4 based and our friends at trolltech even use it :) | 00:25 |
| ScottK | Is it up to date? | 00:27 |
| nixternal | yes it is | 00:29 |
| ScottK | OK. | 00:33 |
| neversfelde | there were some reports, that translation problems with german are fixed after the latest updates | 00:35 |
| nixternal | I don't believe it | 00:36 |
| nixternal | prove it to me | 00:36 |
| nixternal | after eating chili for dinner, I am about ready for bed | 00:36 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Minus points for not closing the bug in the changelog (Konversation) | 00:40 |
| JontheEchidna | eep | 00:41 |
| yuriy | JontheEchidna, nixternal: I figured out how to do apport-kde better so it doesn't hang, but the segfault is indeed still there :( | 00:46 |
| nixternal | what did you do? | 00:46 |
| yuriy | nixternal: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/285026/ | 00:58 |
| nixternal | hahaha, you used one of my all-time favorite hacks | 01:00 |
| nixternal | QTimer.singleshot | 01:00 |
| nixternal | another nice thing about singleshot, you can do really nice loops or recursion without eating memory | 01:01 |
| nixternal | ie: | 01:01 |
| nixternal | def foo(self): | 01:01 |
| nixternal | print "foo" | 01:01 |
| nixternal | QTimer.singleshot(100, self.foo) | 01:01 |
| nixternal | err, forgot to space that | 01:02 |
| nixternal | put the QTimer in the def :) | 01:02 |
| nixternal | cuz you can't do 'while True:' w/o blowing things up | 01:02 |
| yuriy | yeah it does provide for some neat hacks | 01:02 |
| yuriy | but more importantly answers the question of what the heck a QCoreApplication is for | 01:03 |
| nixternal | interesting | 01:04 |
| nixternal | as that is used to provide the event loops for cli apps | 01:04 |
| yuriy | i never could figure out how to use it before though, because normally you make use of the event loop in GUI applications | 01:05 |
| yuriy | if you have code that runs before or after the exec() it will run before the event loop starts or after it exits | 01:06 |
| yuriy | but a timer allows you to set things up to actually run in the event loop | 01:06 |
| yuriy | but anyways, segfault is still there so :( | 01:07 |
| nixternal | that's because app.exec_() isn't returning a 0, it is returning something else | 01:08 |
| yuriy | nixternal: the segfault? I don't think that would cause one | 01:09 |
| nixternal | actually it does | 01:10 |
| nixternal | it was doing that for me in another app I was working on | 01:10 |
| * nixternal looks at something | 01:10 | |
| yuriy | especially if you consider the backtrace (bug 403361)? | 01:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 403361 in python-qt4 "apport-kde crashed with SIGSEGV in QWidgetPrivate::deleteExtra()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403361 | 01:10 |
| yuriy | i mean i'm sure it's not returning 0 but that would be *because* it crashes | 01:11 |
| nixternal | class App(): | 01:11 |
| nixternal | foooofdjaljfdakjfd | 01:11 |
| nixternal | then in there I have a def toggleQuit(self): | 01:11 |
| yuriy | nixternal: actually it DOES return 0 :O | 01:12 |
| nixternal | where I put 'sys.exit(app.quit()) | 01:12 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, this is great. Quassel entirely lacks a spanish translation. The only strings translated are those it gets from kdelibs via language-pack-* | 01:12 |
| nixternal | and then in __main__ I just put | 01:12 |
| nixternal | app.exec_() | 01:12 |
| nixternal | attach gdb to the pid then quit, see what that spits out | 01:13 |
| yuriy | nixternal: app.quit() is void, and makes exec_ return 0 | 01:13 |
| yuriy | Sime_: around? | 01:14 |
| yuriy | Riddelll, ScottK: fix committed to u-n-k and attached for kde4libs for bug 439758 | 01:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 439758 in kde4libs "KDE crash handler is used if apport-kde is not present, even if apport-gtk is" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439758 | 01:49 |
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| Sime_ | yuriy, nixternal: make kapp global, put your code in a function, and don't use sys.exit(). | 08:49 |
| freinhard | narf, apt fails on distupgrade without a error message, even with all debug options. | 10:25 |
| freinhard | didn't look that deep into the code yet, does DistUpgradeController.py do the same a apt-get dist-upgrade would do? | 10:26 |
| freinhard | just did a apt-get dist-upgrade: | 10:28 |
| freinhard | E: Couldn't configure pre-depend openoffice.org-core for openoffice.org-filter-binfilter, probably a dependency cycle. | 10:28 |
| a|wen | freinhard: that one might be an archive inconsistency; are you on karmic? | 10:36 |
| freinhard | a|wen: not yeat | 10:38 |
| freinhard | yet | 10:38 |
| a|wen | hmm, that is not good then (i think) | 10:38 |
| a|wen | freinhard: have you tried if aptitude full-upgrade has a sensible solution to it? | 10:39 |
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| freinhard | nope, prevents me from upgrading to karmic and upgrade-manager doesn't give any hint to the real problem. aptitude full-upgrade doesn't to the job either. | 10:40 |
| a|wen | does aptitude simply error out? | 10:41 |
| freinhard | aptitude full-upgrade == apt-get dist-upgrade | 10:41 |
| freinhard | same error | 10:41 |
| a|wen | freinhard: you could try to remove and then re-install openoffice ... there is some foo there; looks like you have made a dependency lock-up | 10:44 |
| freinhard | hmm don't use OOo anyways... | 10:45 |
| freinhard | but what bugs me most: no error messages from the gui! | 10:45 |
| a|wen | kpackagekit? | 10:49 |
| freinhard | nope update-manager | 10:49 |
| freinhard | and even gives wrong information. upgrade was successfull but there were errors | 10:49 |
| freinhard | plain sarcasm ;) | 10:49 |
| a|wen | i thought it used kpackagekit for that in jaunty | 10:49 |
| freinhard | did update-notifier -d | 10:50 |
| a|wen | there is a reason why i dumped gui package managers completely | 10:52 |
| freinhard | removing openoffice did the job | 10:58 |
| freinhard | karmic, here i come | 10:58 |
| a|wen | cool :) | 10:59 |
| tsdgeos | how much pain there's updating to karmic? | 12:05 |
| a|wen | tsdgeos: the mirrors have been painfully slow the last two days ... but if you locate a local mirror with good bw, it should be painless enough | 12:10 |
| tsdgeos | someone mentioned pain due to change of gcc/glibc | 12:18 |
| tsdgeos | how much truth is in there? | 12:18 |
| a|wen | depends on how much you are compiling a lot of stuff yourself ... there is no pain in using it in that regard (only a lot to fix for devs) | 12:26 |
| a|wen | (that sentence didn't make sense; but hope you got the meaning) | 12:26 |
| Mamarok | the German mirros work flawlessly | 12:27 |
| Mamarok | mirrors* even | 12:27 |
| tsdgeos | ok, thanks | 12:30 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: looks like somebody else has your templates bug too: bug 442176 | 13:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 442176 in kdepim "Default compose templates empty (without quote)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/442176 | 13:29 |
| JontheEchidna | ^Occurred on an upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.2.4 | 13:29 |
| yuriy | Sime: thanks, but it crashes without sys.exit() too. I was wondering if you could tell if this was pyqt bug or elsewhere: bug 403361 | 14:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 403361 in python-qt4 "apport-kde crashed with SIGSEGV in QWidgetPrivate::deleteExtra()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403361 | 14:18 |
| sebas | Is Amarok 2.2 in karmic? | 14:56 |
| sebas | amarok: Depends: amarok-common (= 2:2.2.0-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed | 14:57 |
| sebas | this is what happens when I try to install "amarok" | 14:57 |
| JontheEchidna | sebas: the amarok build on i386 where common data packages are built failed due to mysql borkage | 15:09 |
| sebas | JontheEchidna: x86_64 as well? | 15:15 |
| JontheEchidna | amarok-common is only built on i386 since it only needs built once | 15:15 |
| JontheEchidna | since it only contains data files usable by all archs | 15:16 |
| sebas | ah, ok | 15:16 |
| sebas | I'll wait until someone fixes it then | 15:16 |
| sebas | the 2.1.90 packages worked well bt | 15:16 |
| sebas | w | 15:16 |
| * yuriy needs something to do this morning | 15:17 | |
| sebas | yuriy: fix amarok ;) | 15:17 |
| sebas | and good morning | 15:17 |
| yuriy | "due to mysql borkage" ^^ | 15:17 |
| yuriy | good morning sebas | 15:18 |
| yuriy | afternoon? | 15:18 |
| sebas | afternoon here, yes | 15:18 |
| sebas | both would justify coffee of course | 15:18 |
| * ryanakca sighs and wonders if Kobby is dead... no upstream commits or modifications since 2009-08-04, two months ago to the day :/ | 15:28 | |
| sebas | wasn't there a summer of code project working on it? | 15:29 |
| ryanakca | libqinfinity was 2009-07-24 ... | 15:29 |
| ryanakca | sebas: I'm not sure. Greg Haynes is upstream's name, wether or not it was done for GSoC, I don't know. | 15:30 |
| sebas | I can't find anything other than a techbase idea and some mentionings of it in various blogposts | 15:30 |
| sebas | Nightrose: do you know anything about it? | 15:31 |
| * Nightrose reads backlog | 15:31 | |
| Nightrose | sec | 15:31 |
| JontheEchidna | can anybody confirm bug 442278 in their language? | 15:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 442278 in language-pack-kde-es-base "[es] .desktop files originating from kdebase-workspace untranslated" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/442278 | 15:31 |
| ryanakca | sebas, Nightrose: http://github.com/greghaynes/kobby is the source repo | 15:31 |
| JontheEchidna | another spanish confirmation'd be nice too | 15:31 |
| Nightrose | sebas: gsoc last year - finished gsoc but lots of stuff still needed - i think he's just busy with university | 15:32 |
| Nightrose | would be good to get some more people on it | 15:32 |
| Nightrose | maybe worth sending an email to Greg asking him to move it to svn so more people have access | 15:32 |
| ryanakca | He last commited to another project five hours ago, according to http://github.com/greghaynes , so I'm going to email him to let him know that the world is still interested in Kobby and that we're anxiously anticipating the 1.0 release that was scheduled for mid-summer | 15:32 |
| Nightrose | or gitorious | 15:32 |
| Nightrose | ryanakca: ask him to move it somewhere more kde people can help | 15:33 |
| Nightrose | and actually see it | 15:33 |
| ryanakca | OK | 15:34 |
| yuriy | *gulp* they already did link to the kubuntu bugs reporting page at the top of the ubuntu one. i guess i have to update that | 15:39 |
| JontheEchidna | hrm | 15:53 |
| JontheEchidna | I think I may have found the root of our policykit problems | 15:53 |
| JontheEchidna | yes | 15:53 |
| JontheEchidna | kdebase-workspace-bin does not depend on policykit | 15:54 |
| JontheEchidna | epic fail | 15:54 |
| * JontheEchidna fixes | 15:56 | |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Thanks. The computer that has the bug did go 4.2.2 -> 4.2.4 -> 4.3.1, so that makes sense. | 16:27 |
| yuriy | ksysguard doesn't show PIDs? :O | 16:41 |
| JontheEchidna | It does here. maybe check if it's an available column? | 16:42 |
| yuriy | JontheEchidna: it's available, but not default | 16:42 |
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| yuriy | ok https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting updated JontheEchidna what do you think? | 17:08 |
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| JontheEchidna | yuriy: looks good, I corrected a few minor grammar things | 17:13 |
| yuriy | ok most of it is copied from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs so maybe they need correcting there too? | 17:13 |
| JontheEchidna | nah, it was just in the dr. konqi section | 17:14 |
| JontheEchidna | lol@ firefox's RAM usage on the ubuntu wiki picutre | 17:15 |
| yuriy | yeah that doesn't seem realistic at all. i wonder what ksysguard uses for that column | 17:15 |
| yuriy | it doesn't match anything i see in top | 17:15 |
| yuriy | oh the ubuntu wiki one. yeah that sounds more right :D | 17:16 |
| yuriy | oh in mine i didn't actually have any pages open | 17:17 |
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| effie-jayx | hey guys | 18:01 |
| effie-jayx | I am having a bit of trouble finding a place were to find a bug for kubuntu netbook edition | 18:02 |
| effie-jayx | launchpad won't give me a simple report bug button unless I find the right package... | 18:02 |
| effie-jayx | should I report the bug under ubuntu-netbook-edition? | 18:03 |
| Riddelll | ubuntu-bug plasma-netbook | 18:06 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddelll: is ksplash-before-kdm currently doing all it needs to be doing, or is there more work that needs done? I ask because ksplash only comes up for a split second before kdm gives you a user prompt anyway | 18:09 |
| effie-jayx | Riddelll: thanks | 18:09 |
| Riddelll | JontheEchidna: it's starting as soon as kdm can start it (as far as I can make out) | 18:10 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 18:10 |
| Riddelll | it was expected that with the upstart stuff it would take longer to start because there would be more going on in the background but I don't see that having happened | 18:11 |
| JontheEchidna | is there any way to make kdm start earlier than it already does? | 18:11 |
| Riddelll | I havn't tried ubuntu desktop for a while so I don't know how it compares | 18:11 |
| Riddelll | kdm can't start earlier. there might be some way of getting it to start ksplashx sooner after X has started but I don't know of one | 18:11 |
| JontheEchidna | :( | 18:12 |
| JontheEchidna | I'd rather have usplash, since out of the 17 seconds it takes to get from grub to kdm, 16.5 is splashless | 18:12 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: success, we got the template approved today: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/qt4-x11/+pots/kdeqt/ | 18:13 |
| Riddelll | it always did seem to me like a curious plan, it's not like kdm started late in the boot process before | 18:13 |
| Riddelll | I should try ubuntu desktop and see if it's any better | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | neato | 18:14 |
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| shtylman | Riddelll: did ya see my message about the netbook warning text? | 19:13 |
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| nixternal | vorian: nhandler is looking for | 19:25 |
| heHATEme | oh jeese | 19:25 |
| heHATEme | have i got a story for you all | 19:26 |
| heHATEme | I've been in montana for the last month! | 19:26 |
| nixternal | hey dude you are on a projector, so be careful | 19:26 |
| heHATEme | ok | 19:26 |
| JontheEchidna | \o vorian | 19:27 |
| heHATEme | yo! | 19:27 |
| heHATEme | it feels good to be home | 19:27 |
| Quintasan | anyone from Manchester? I'm going to UK next Wendsday | 19:47 |
| Riddelll | shtylman: yes thanks | 19:48 |
| Riddelll | Quintasan: nobody from kubuntu that I know of | 19:48 |
| Quintasan | :( | 19:49 |
| Quintasan | Riddelll: urgh, this guy is persistent, it's really possible to get a new package with all freezes in effect? | 19:52 |
| Riddelll | Quintasan: yeah may as well, anything to keep him quiet | 20:17 |
| Quintasan | Riddelll: Well, it has GPL 2 license now and he claims all icons (unless stated otherwise) are GPL-2 | 20:18 |
| Quintasan | except Qt :/ | 20:25 |
| Lure | Riddelll: any good schnell-kurs for bzr-maintained packages? I just noticed kipi-plugins is in bzr now and debian has it in svn | 20:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | Hey guys | 20:31 |
| Quintasan | Lure: what do you want to do? | 20:34 |
| Quintasan | Lure: bzr branch <branch> to get code, bzr commit -m "comment" and bzr push <brach> to push changes :P | 20:34 |
| Quintasan | Lure: http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/mini-tutorial/index.html | 20:35 |
| Lure | Quintasan: I know bzr, I though that there is some buildpackage thing for bzr, to help with actually building preparing packages that are in bzr | 20:36 |
| Quintasan | wow, I didn't know about that | 20:36 |
| apachelogger | bzr builddeb | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | bzr builddeb -S for source | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | also see help | 20:38 |
| Lure | apachelogger: thanks | 20:39 |
| * Lure thought is some kind of separate helper package... | 20:39 | |
| apachelogger | yeah, dunno the package name | 20:39 |
| apachelogger | used to be bzr-buildpackage | 20:39 |
| apachelogger | possibly still is, since there is still same named binary | 20:40 |
| Lure | apachelogger: it is | 20:40 |
| Hosein-mec | KKK have xsplash & new boot screen like ubuntu karmic ? | 20:44 |
| Lure | is it Vcs-bzr or Vcs-svn for bzr branches? | 20:49 |
| Quintasan | Riddelll: sorry for using such dirty method but my connection really sucks. debian dir -> http://rapidshare.com/files/288704147/debian.tar.gz.html and please do "svn co https://dooble.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/dooble/trunk/browser/" for source | 21:20 |
| * Quintasan is going on a trip with his class | 21:21 | |
| Lure | Riddelll: any idea why this would fail on ubuntu, but builds on debian: | 21:49 |
| Lure | /tmp/buildd/kipi-plugins-0.7.0/po/de/kipiplugin_batchprocessimages.po:1146:56: invalid multibyte sequence | 21:50 |
| Lure | /usr/bin/msgfmt: found 1 fatal error | 21:50 |
| Lure | Riddelll: pot extraction? | 21:50 |
| Riddelll | sounds like it | 21:54 |
| Lure | Riddelll: will test in ppa first, it might be something in my pbuilder | 22:04 |
| Riddelll | actually that doesn't sound like pot exraction | 22:04 |
| Lure | Riddelll: othwerwise we will need to patch .po file, right? | 22:04 |
| Riddelll | right | 22:05 |
| Lure | Riddelll: maybe my pbuilder is just rusty of my system broken - did not do much for karmic ;-) | 22:05 |
| Riddelll | maybe it is an invalid byte sequence | 22:06 |
| Lure | Riddelll: "hinzufügen</b>: Fügt dem Bild Rauschen hinzu.<br/><b>Kantenglättung</b>: " | 22:09 |
| Lure | looks perfect German to me ;-) | 22:09 |
| Lure | Riddelll: will have to wait until the morning to check my merge (from ppa), then I can bzr push and complete ffe in bug 442571 | 22:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 442571 in kipi-plugins "FFe for kipi-plugins 0.7.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/442571 | 22:11 |
| Lure | Riddelll: digikam beta5 will probably be tommorow, so this is next | 22:12 |
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| shtylman | my amarok still crashes when trying to make a dynamic playlist... | 23:00 |
| * ScottK-palm waves. | 23:23 | |
| ScottK-palm | Being online right now is tough due to no electricity. | 23:28 |
| ScottK-palm | Hopefully back in the next few hours..... | 23:28 |
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