[00:32] <nnonix> I filed a bug using 'ubuntu-bug gnome-bluetooth' and it attached the files Dependencies.txt & XsessionErrors.txt. Shouldn't this have included some attachments that include hardware information?
[00:42] <hggdh> nnonix: at least bluetooth data, yes
[00:48] <cdr700> Does anyone know how to change panel font colours in karmic?
[00:48] <nnonix> hggdh: which command output do you suggest I attach?
[00:54] <hggdh> nnonix: I am not sure, never used bluetooth. But, I guess, dmesg would help
[02:16] <lxowle> I want to submit a bug about my cd/dvd drive not being able to recognise any media. Can some one tell me what package name that should be with? Thanks.
[02:18] <jmarsden> lxowle: That sounds like a hardware issue, file a support request with the drive manufacturer, or just buy a new DVD burner??  What makes you believe this is a Ubuntu bug?
[02:19] <lxowle> I used the drive to burn the install disk under 9.04, and then install ubuntu 9.10 beta.
[02:20] <bdmurray_> use linux as the package
[02:21] <lxowle> ok, thanks.
[03:41] <hggdh> dtchen: for what is worth -- it seems all my problems with PA vanished after a full reinstall of Karmic, with all gconf settings starting from scratch
[04:57] <dtchen> bdmurray: that dvd non-recognition is likely a dupe of 438065
[04:57] <dtchen> hggdh: yeah, gconf is a known-bear
[04:58] <hggdh> dtchen: I wonder how much of problems on upgrade come from stale settings (everywhere)
[04:59] <dtchen> hggdh: many more than i'd like
[05:39] <omegamormegil> I just installed the Karmic UNR beta and I get stuck in an endless reboot loop when the computer tries to boot.  I didn't see a bug report.  Anybody else hear of this problem?
[05:41] <omegamormegil> All I get is the initial "Loading Grub" message and it immediately reboots.  Over and over.
[06:25] <mercutio22> did you upgrade?
[06:27] <mercutio22> :-(|)
[09:45] <cwillu> I'll be back in a moment (need to reboot before ubuntu-bug will do anything), but can somebody confirm that alt-middle click is bound to "raise/lower window" by default, in conflict with alt-middleclick window resizing?
[09:50] <cwillu_clone> so having said that and rebooted... :p
[09:56] <cwillu_clone> ugh, holding down shift doesn't work on this system, but grub2 still doesn't give me any time to hit escape
[10:03] <gp_will_be_back> is net conections manger fixed in karmic koala
[10:03] <gp_will_be_back> as per gnome bug page it works on gnome but due some custom patch by ununtu not working in ubuntu
[12:47] <jarnos>  What is the best way to report a bug, if suspend to RAM does not work?
[12:59] <yofel> jarnos: define doesn't work a bit better, doesn't do anything or crashes?
[13:02] <jarnos> It displays some Intel text in console that is replaced by the desktop environment and does not continue.
[13:03] <jarnos> yofel, I can't resume from that point.
[13:05] <yofel> hm, not sure in that case, anybody else?
[13:12] <jarnos> yofel, Oh, sorry, I meant the normal desktop environment is replaced by console with the text.
[13:13] <yofel> jarnos: do you have access to a tty?
[13:16] <yofel> well, if yes, check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log if X crashed, or maybe you can check Xorg.0.log.old now
[13:18] <jarnos> yofel, no I don't.
[13:23] <Capsaicin> hey guys
[13:23] <Capsaicin> I need help with reporting a bug
[13:24] <Capsaicin> because I dont know which package is the problem
[13:24] <Capsaicin> is anyone alive?
[13:24] <yofel> jarnos: well, best you wait for somebody else then, I don't know very much about suspend issues
[13:24] <yofel> Capsaicin: what's the bug?
[13:25] <Capsaicin> my wireless connection keeps dropping sometimes, disconnecting and reconnecting
[13:25] <yofel> what driver do you use?
[13:26] <Capsaicin> well, im a linux newbie so I dont really know....
[13:27] <Capsaicin> i use karmic koala beta on a msi wind U100 netbook
[13:27] <yofel> Capsaicin: what wireless card do you have? (run lspci in a terminal)
[13:27] <Capsaicin> RaLink RT2860
[13:28] <yofel> hurray, same as me... same crappy driver...
[13:28] <Capsaicin> do u experience the same problem?
[13:28] <yofel> if I'm far away enough from the AP then yes
[13:28] <Capsaicin> ok
[13:29] <Capsaicin> but i dont have any problems with windows....
[13:32] <yofel> Capsaicin: I know, the driver isn't really in a good state, that's why it's in the staging section of the kernel
[13:32] <Capsaicin> ok, so its not a problem with ubuntu?
[13:32] <yofel> Capsaicin: no, if you want, you could try to report a bug at kernel.org, but i'm not sure if this driver is even supported
[13:36] <Capsaicin> ok, so what does it mean that its in the staging section?
[13:37] <yofel> Capsaicin: that the kernel developers don't think the driver is good enough to be officially included but the leave it in staging for testing purposes
[13:38] <yofel> I looked at the driver myself once, but I really don't know enough about hardware programming to mess with it and there doesn't seem to be anybody to do that
[13:42] <Capsaicin> ok, thanx man
[13:48] <yofel> Capsaicin: actually here's the TODO from the driver source, that's about the most information you can get: http://yofel.pastebin.com/f385fba54
[14:03] <hosoka> hello all
[14:04] <hosoka> is this the room when having difficulty with the beta 9.10 ?
[14:05] <yofel> hosoka: nope, please come to #ubuntu+1 for the
[14:05] <yofel> *that
[14:32] <wln> hello!
[14:33] <yofel> hi wln
[14:37] <hosoka> thanks yofel.
[14:44] <wln> hi, yofel!  I'm testing Karmic beta right now and it looks very slick, but I'm having problems with flash on firefox.  the system says flashplugin-nonfree is already installed, but Firefox won't run flash content.  if I try to install a .deb from the adobe website I get the following error: "dpkg: unable to read filedescriptor flags for <package status and progress file descriptor>: Bad file descriptor".  any help?
[14:47] <yofel> wln: the file descriptor error is supposed to be fixed, do you have all updates? And for karmic related support please come over to #ubuntu+1
[14:54] <wln> oh, I see.  I'm updating it right now and, if I have any problems, I'll join #ubuntu+1.  thanks!
[15:46] <matti> ;]
[16:12] <CarlFK> I plug in a usb drive and get: /media/6deac633-3fc3-41bc-9033-a5eccfd6d253
[16:13] <CarlFK> which makes an alarming window title
[16:13] <CarlFK> not sure if thats a bug or not, but want to bring it to someone attention.  what package should I bug?
[16:20] <klerfayt> of which package is "custom menu bar" part of?
[16:29] <springmeyer> trying to install Karmic Beta within Virtual Box from .iso fetched from here: http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-releases/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-beta-alternate-i386.iso
[16:29] <springmeyer> during installation I hit a red screen that says:
[16:30] <springmeyer> "An installation step failed... failing step is: Select and install software"
[16:30] <springmeyer> anything I can/should do to help provide a bug report?
[16:35] <CarlFK> springmeyer: alt-f4
[16:43] <springmeyer> CarlFK: thanks, I'm running through the install again from scratch. will try that if I hit the problem again...
[17:04] <springmeyer> CarlFK: okay, i hit the same place again
[17:04] <CarlFK> springmeyer: alt-f4
[17:04] <springmeyer> I have hit alt-f4, it takes me to terminal
[17:04] <springmeyer> "please press enter to activate this console..."
[17:05] <springmeyer> "BusyBox v1.13.3...."
[17:05] <CarlFK> huh - I was expecting message log
[17:05] <springmeyer> hmm, okay
[17:05] <CarlFK> no matter - the log is in /var/log/messages
[17:05] <springmeyer> I'm running virtual box on a mac, so I may have messed up keys...
[17:05] <springmeyer> okay
[17:06] <CarlFK> you have a few commands at your disposal - tail and more
[17:06] <springmeyer> yes, okay...
[17:06] <CarlFK> look in the log for something error like
[17:06] <springmeyer> only "partman" and "syslog" in /var/log
[17:07] <springmeyer> ah ha
[17:07] <springmeyer> tail on syslog gives: "no space left on device"
[17:07] <springmeyer> so, must be a problem with Virtualbox allocating space to the machine...
[17:08] <CarlFK> don't you need to setup a size?
[17:09] <springmeyer> well, I just took the default of a couple GB
[17:09] <CarlFK> for a desktop install you need 3.5
[17:09] <springmeyer> and I thought it was "expanding", but I'll go back and try again
[17:10] <springmeyer> ah, silly me, thanks
[17:10] <springmeyer> sorry for the bother - great to learn how to get into terminal mode though, thanks
[17:10] <CarlFK> you might want to report a bug that the message isn't very useful
[17:10] <CarlFK> alt-f2 alt-f3 are what should get you terms
[17:10] <springmeyer> okay
[17:11] <CarlFK> 1 is the installer (dialogs, progress) and 4 is the log display
[17:12] <springmeyer> great,okay
[17:15] <springmeyer> hmm, ya the default MAX size that virtual box has is 2GB. annoying for either new users or non-attentive users(like me)
[17:19] <Andy80> hi
[17:20] <Andy80> Report Bug on LaunchPad always redirect me here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs, I don't want to submit an application bug... it's a system bug, so where is the old bug submission form?
[17:23] <CarlFK> Andy80: did you read the page? :)
[17:23] <CarlFK> I made the same .. pattern of behavior
[17:25] <Andy80> CarlFK: I did and.... old version of Launchpad was more more clear to understand :P
[17:25] <Andy80> anyway... found it
[17:25] <CarlFK> read it again.  the answer is in there
[17:25] <Andy80> (thanks Google)
[17:28] <CarlFK> you want me to click, find it and cut/paste it into here?
[17:30] <Andy80> no thanks, I found it at the end... already submitted the bug I did want to submit... now I've many other to submit, thanks anyway :)
[17:35] <yofel> Andy80: can you post the bug number please?
[17:36] <Andy80> yofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/442368
[17:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 442368 in ubuntu "Ubuntu Karmic Beta cannot boot sometimes " [Undecided,New]
[17:37] <yofel> Andy80: did you by chance mess with your fstab?
[17:37] <Andy80> yofel: didn't touch it at all
[17:38] <Andy80> yofel: the problem is that it behaves just like Windows :P
[17:38] <Andy80> yofel: sometimes it works, sometimes not :P
[17:38] <yofel> hm, I got the same behaviour after I put a wrong uuid into the fstab file
[17:38] <Andy80> I've to go away for some minutes... I'll be back later
[17:43] <yofel> hm, what is one supposed to do with all those karmic bugs about the system messages between grub and xsplash?
[17:44] <yofel> since they get randomly set to xsplash, linux, ...
[17:59] <Andy80> yofel: I'm back
[18:07] <Andy80> yofel: I just submitted even the bug related to USB keys/disks not automatically mounted: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/442398
[18:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 442398 in ubuntu "USB keys/disks are not mounted when I plug them (using Ubuntu Karmic Beta)" [Undecided,New]
[18:11] <bcurtiswx> anyone know if the problem of power management preferences not working is already reported?
[18:11] <bcurtiswx> idk what package is involved with that
[18:16] <mac_v> bcurtiswx: gnome-power-manager
[20:07] <sharms> Can anyone change the importance field on #423755 for me?  It says wishlist but the bug itself prevents the program from starting at all
[20:07] <yofel> but 423755
[20:08] <yofel> bug 423755
[20:08] <yofel> -.-
[20:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 423755 in grsync "grsync does not start - GTK critical error" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423755
[20:09] <BUGabundo> its a whislist
[20:09] <BUGabundo> should be fixed upstream
[20:10] <sharms> I must not understand the criteria correctly -- the program does not work at all, and still wishlist?
[20:11] <sharms> I am using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance as a reference
[20:11] <sharms> it isnt a new feature being added, it is a regression that causes the program to absolutely not launch or start
[20:15] <sharms> if anyone can take the time to explain this to me that would be great
[20:19] <jpds> sharms: It's confirmed but the wishlist bit is to get the patch in the archive I believe.
[20:20] <sharms> is there a wiki link or anything? I just want to understand so I can not errantly complain about importance
[20:21] <jpds> sharms: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Sponsorship/SponsorsQueue
[20:22] <sharms> jpds: appreciated thanks
[20:22] <jpds> No problem.
[21:55] <gsedej> Hi! I have problem with network maneger. It won't remember any configuration correctly. I can't connect using ipv4 manually. It just dont remember at all
[21:58] <gsedej> can anyone help me?
[21:58] <gsedej> btw I can't send bug, since I can't get connection
[22:11] <lfaraone> gsedej: maybe you should ask for help in #ubuntu
[22:11] <gsedej> lfaraone: ok, to ask about beta release?
[22:12] <goat-eee> gsedej: #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[22:12] <lfaraone> gsedej: if you're running karmic (which you *shouldn't* be doing unless you know how to fix problems like this), #ubuntu+1.
[22:12] <gsedej> I will use command line...
[22:13] <gsedej> I need Mesa 7.4 since I work on some 3d...
[22:13] <gsedej> mesa 7.6
[23:40] <notlistening> Hi, just been to a JAM over the past three days and have been [utting karmic through its paces
[23:41] <notlistening> Have have two instances of data cuuiption on the disk i was using now, the second killing the superblock off
[23:44] <notlistening> and a secpnd netbook went down with similar problems
[23:45] <notlistening> i have the damaged disk as it was an external usb drive is ther a way to get the backup superblock from the disk and compaire to the existing and compaire to see what the problem might be?