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ebroderAnybody want to sponsor my fix for bug #435505?00:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 435505 in system-config-printer "system-config-printer.py crashed with IOError in _report_traceback()" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43550500:20
slacker_nlwhy do some packages have their version number in the package name, an upgrade of the package will actually remove/install package, if only the version number would change I would only see a normal upgrade, eg, libuniconf4.4 to libuniconf4.600:45
sistpotyslacker_nl: (binary) library packages have the soname denoted in the package name00:47
sistpotyslacker_nl: the reason is to have these coinstallable (e.g. if another package still needs the old and incompatible library)00:47
slacker_nlsistpoty: ahh, isee00:47
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ebroderCan someone from ubuntu-release look at bug #429445?03:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 429445 in zephyr "[Karmic FFe] Sync zephyr 3.0~rc.2544-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42944503:05
ebroderI really don't believe that this needs an FFe, but it seems like it might be easier to just get one than to argue the point03:06
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geoffthas there already been some discussion and/or flamage about Launchpad redirecting +filebug to the wiki page?04:12
geofftI want this not to happen (at least for my account) but I'd rather not file a new bug if there's some existing forum04:15
dtchenlibuniconf4.6 is failing to upgrade due to debian 540320, which is resolved in wvstreams 4.6-205:00
ubottuDebian bug 540320 in libuniconf4.6 "libuniconf4.6: Error during installation" [Normal,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/54032005:00
dtchen(i.e., Karmic needs a sync of 4.6-2)05:01
ScottKDoes wvstreams build?05:01
dtchenScottK: yes, on both i386 and amd6405:12
dtcheni ran piuparts on a locally pbuilt sync of 4.6-205:12
ScottKdtchen: If you file a sync request, I'll ack it.05:14
jdonghmm is asac on leave recently?05:18
dtchenScottK: bug 44193605:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 441936 in wvstreams "Please sync wvstreams 4.6-2 from Debian unstable main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44193605:22
ScottKdtchen: Ack'ed.  Thanks.05:24
dtchenScottK: thanks05:25
ScottKYou're welcome.  Thanks for looking into it.05:27
foxbuntuevening everyone, I am just doing a little research trying to understand where the jobs are for upstart to start xsplash, cant seem to find the information i am looking for, anyone able to point me to it?05:30
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hyperairdoes anyone notice bash completion being a little broken in karmic?08:03
hyperairfor example, when using mv, completing a filename multiple times doesn't appear to work.08:03
hyperairhmm specifically when there are spaces in the filename.08:05
hyperairit completes until "stuff_before_first_space\ " and then it stops08:05
fabrice_sp_hyperair, that's strange, because it's working here, even with spaces08:09
hyperairis it?08:09
hyperairhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=54398208:09
ubottuDebian bug 543982 in bash "bash: Completion with spaces broken." [Normal,Open]08:09
hyperairthis is the bug i'm seeing08:09
fabrice_sp_it has just completed "test fabrice/prueba" without pb08:10
hyperaircould you grep your .bashrc for /etc/bash_completion?08:10
hyperairthe bug says that removing /etc/bash_completion from bashrc fixes the problem08:10
fabrice_sp_sure08:10
fabrice_sp_I don't have a /etc/bash_completion file on karmic :-)08:11
fabrice_sp_that would explain why it's working in my case08:12
hyperairah08:12
hyperairi see08:12
hyperairalso, only some commands seem to fail08:12
hyperairi think it's those that are overridden in /etc/bash_completion08:13
cody-somervilleIt works for me and I do have /etc/bash_completion08:13
hyperairin karmic?08:14
cody-somervilleyup08:14
hyperairwhich command did you use?08:14
hyperairmv seems to fail08:14
cody-somervillecd08:14
cody-somervillemv works for me as well08:15
hyperairis it sourced in your bashrc?08:15
hyperaircd fails for me08:15
cody-somervilleyes08:15
hyperairhmm how strange.08:15
hyperairdid you type until the \ before pressing tab?08:16
hyperairor did you press tab before that?08:16
cody-somervillenot sure I understand your question08:17
hyperairsorry.08:17
hyperairbasically filenames with spaces are generally tab completed to: bla\ bla08:17
hyperairthe completion fails if you type until "bla\ "08:17
hyperairand then press tab08:17
hyperairfor me, that is08:17
hyperairand as mentioned in the bug report08:17
cody-somervilleare you saying that if you type "mv blah\" and then hit tab that its not completing for you?08:19
hyperairnote the trailing space.08:20
hyperair"mv blah\ "08:20
cody-somervilleyea, that doesn't work for me either08:21
hyperairand that's what i meant.08:21
hyperairit worked previously08:21
cody-somervilletry not typing the \ and just a space08:21
hyperairheh?08:22
hyperairthen it'll be interpreted as the next argument already08:22
hyperairand also, i didn't type the \. bash did.08:22
hyperairif i've got files "blah blah" and "blah asdf" then typing "b" and pressing tab will bring you to "blah\ "08:22
cody-somervillehyperair, type also one letter of the next word and it will complete it08:22
hyperairafter which completion afils.08:22
hyperairfails*08:22
cody-somervilleand if bash does the \ for me, then it does work08:22
hyperairdoesn't work for me =(08:23
hyperairhttp://pastebin.com/f1281dbd208:24
hyperairand completion fails08:24
cody-somervilleyea, that does appear to be broken08:25
hyperairi suspect the _filedir function in /etc/bash_completion broke somewhere between jaunty and karmic08:26
hyperairor _filedir_xspec?08:27
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hyperairhmm looks like it's not bash-completion that broke, but bash changed09:02
gp_will_be_backhi09:59
gp_will_be_backis net conections manger fixed in karmic koala09:59
gp_will_be_back?09:59
gp_will_be_backhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/network-manager/+bug/27938410:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 279384 in network-manager "NetworkManager does not provide a way for static IP configuration with DHCP-provided DNS, gateway etc." [Unknown,Confirmed]10:00
gp_will_be_backas per gnome bug page it works on gnome but due some custom patch by ununtu not working in ubuntu10:01
hyperairgp_will_be_back: it will be fixed. (asac said so) for now you can use the network-manager trunk ppa.10:16
hyperairit works there.10:16
hyperairoh wait, that, i'm not sure10:17
hyperairi was thinking about the wrong bug10:17
hyperairi don't think so, but the other way is possible10:17
gp_will_be_backwhat is that way ?10:24
gp_will_be_backmanually edit /etc/network/interfaces ?10:25
gp_will_be_back;-)10:25
gp_will_be_backalso that ubuntu one thing NEVER works10:26
gp_will_be_backbut ubunto one stuff  not crtical .....networking connections applet stuff is10:28
gp_will_be_backfeature is there never works .....unbutu....going M$ way hehe ....i remember have same exp in kubuntu 9.04 .....network manager didnt work ..............i asked kde team they said custom ubuntu patch was to be blammed10:30
gp_will_be_backdoes it works in karmic koala kubutu now ?10:32
gp_will_be_backwhy doesnt ubuntu use stuff that works like wicd rather half boiled patches10:35
disownAny channels where you can ask questions related to app development on ubuntu?11:09
ionThe channel for the library/editor/build system/whatever you’re interested of.11:11
disownion: I would like to find some info on how to integrate packaging, installation and testing in a dev cycle. I'll try the apt channel then?11:13
ion#ubuntu-motu should help with packaging.11:13
disownthanks11:14
Chipzz11:35 < gp_will_be_back> why doesnt ubuntu use stuff that works like wicd rather half boiled patches11:59
Chipzzhow about you read the actual gnome bug report and stop twisting the facts?12:00
Chipzzthe actual quote from the gnome bug report:12:00
Chipzz> Dec  2 20:26:47 xendor NetworkManager: <debug> [1228229807.892297]12:00
Chipzz> probe_modem(): Couldn't get caps12:00
ChipzzModem probing in NM is a custom Ubuntu patch and not in NetworkManager itself.12:00
ChipzzPlease file a bug in launchpad for your problem.12:00
Chipzzthat comment refers to modem probing, and has NOTHING to do with assigning a static IP address12:01
gp_will_be_backit works in vanilla Gnome doesnt it ?12:04
gp_will_be_backthere is already bug filled regarding static ip and still unassigned12:05
gp_will_be_backhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/network-manager/+bug/27938412:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 279384 in network-manager "NetworkManager does not provide a way for static IP configuration with DHCP-provided DNS, gateway etc." [Unknown,Confirmed]12:06
gp_will_be_backoh wait its assigned to gnome bug --->> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55562612:07
ubottuGnome bug 555626 in nm-applet "[enh] static IP but DNS via DHCP" [Enhancement,New]12:07
gp_will_be_backmean while i have un -installed  it and using wicd12:08
directhexdtchen, what would happen if an app disables pulse on startup, and tries to use alsa's "default" plug?12:20
Chipzzgp_will_be_back: no it doesn't12:22
Chipzzgp_will_be_back: state the comment in either the launchpad or gnome bug report which says it works in vanilla gnome12:23
Vittorjuego de boxeo online http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html12:24
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Rocket2DMnhey guys, bug 421221 affects the listing for Text Editor in ubuntu-docs, however there still seems to be some upstream discussion about it16:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 421221 in gedit "menu entry says 'gedit' should say 'Text Editor'" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42122116:06
Rocket2DMnIs the plan to release with "gedit Text Editor" in Applications->Accessories, or is it going to be adjusted again before final Karmic release?16:07
Rocket2DMnIs there another bug open for the issue that I'm just not seeing?16:07
freeflyingtested today's daily build, still found some acpi warning message when bootup16:39
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SystemR32Hello17:38
SystemR32Please I need help17:38
SystemR32anyone here?17:39
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Aji-Dahakathere is a fix on network-manager that has been committed via launchpad.  Are there any docs on how to build the stuff from launchpad?  I downloaded the patches via bzr and ran the rules file to get the source from git, but I'm kinda lost at that point18:02
Aji-Dahakait looks like something will have to apply the patch files and then the build process is probably about the same as "usual"18:02
Turlhello, can anyone on a laptop confirm this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/44237818:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 442378 in gnome-power-manager "gnome-power-manager settings have no "on battery" tab" [Undecided,New]18:45
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lucascould someone "give-back" ruby1.9.1 on i386? it built everywhere else, so I'm pretty surprised it failed to build on i386.20:43
siretartlucas: the package seems to have been built fine: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby1.9.1/1.9.1.243-2/+build/127548720:53
siretartlucas: btw, you should be able to retry builds by yourself (if you have upload priviledges for the package, that is)20:54
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cjwatsonfoxbuntu: upstart doesn't start xsplash, which might explain why you're having trouble finding where it does. :-) I think it's started by the GNOME session20:59
foxbuntucjwatson, thanks, I learned that last night :)21:56
lamont` /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: 274: /sbin/runlevel: not found <-- is maybe sysv-rc missing a Depends: upstart-compat-sysv ?22:19
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cjwatsonlamont: upstart rather than upstart-compat-sysv. I'm going to upload a fix to a PPA first since I'm slightly wary of pre-depends cycles here22:41
lamontok22:41
lamontcjwatson: fwiw, the new chroots differ from the old chroots in that rather than /etc/hostname having some random buildd host (wherever it was built), they now say 'INVALID' - there's a part of me that wants to add that host to /etc/hosts. :-(22:48
cjwatsonlamont: they also differ in that apparently the debconf frontend is borked ...22:53
cjwatson(you have a bug about that)22:53
lamontah, thanks22:57
lamontgot a handy bug number?  if not, I'll go find it22:57
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cjwatsonlamont: bug 44248022:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 442480 in console-setup "Recent update to console-setup is causing packages to FTBFS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44248022:59
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james_wwhat makes two people seemingly independently file bugs about being unable to eject CDs against D-Bus in two days?23:43

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