[00:04] <directhex> these are 2 desktop machines w/ pulse
[00:04] <directhex> the third works, where the output is ALSA:hdmi not ALSA:default
[00:52] <SpicyLemon> Does anyone know how to get the Video manager to get and use cover art?
[00:55] <SpicyLemon> nm... got it. Gotta change permissions on the posters folder.  No now I just need to figure out how to get the fetching to not timeout.
[00:59] <SpicyLemon> hmmm... the imdb search seems to pick up the directors
[01:32] <SpicyLemon> In the Video Manager, what does "Browsable" mean?
[01:32] <SpicyLemon> I ask because, I set it to "no" for a file, but it still shows up in my media Library -> watch videos screen.
[02:10] <Mister> Hello, can someone help me with tvout and a ato 7000 video card, please?
[02:10] <Mister> i dont know itch driver
[02:10] <Mister> +w
[02:24] <darthanubis> +wh?
[02:24] <Mister> mh? have i forgot a h, too? ;)
[02:27] <Mister> i have installed mythbuntu and i only see after boot a black seen with a rectangle in the mittle but theese is black, too.
[02:29] <Mister> aso and the 9.10 beta version, should i installed, and can upgradet, or must i installing the final version clean?
[02:29] <Mister> and sorry for my bad english :)
[03:33] <Mister> bye
[03:49] <mike_hurley_1> so when mythfrontend is started it takes about 2 minutes for it to recognize remote inputs which irexec button commands work fine
[03:49] <mike_hurley_1> i have a pastbin for the mythtv channel at: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1591630
[03:50] <mike_hurley_1> it's the log using standard output level for the first couple minutes up until the remote starts working again
[03:51] <mike_hurley_1> guys in the mythtv channel think it may be a removable media monitoring problem hanging the whole frontend
[03:51] <superm1> tried turning off the media monitor?
[03:52] <superm1> and does the hbd work?
[03:52] <superm1> kbd
[03:52] <mike_hurley_1> i'm going to try that now actually
[03:53] <williammanda> hey superm1 whats your thoughts on linuxmce?
[03:53] <superm1> i have none, never used it
[03:53] <mike_hurley_1> keyboard doesn't work either
[03:53] <williammanda> oh ok
[03:53] <superm1> so then their theory about media monitoring sounds plausible
[03:53] <superm1> try running the frontend with increased verbosity
[03:54] <superm1> and check and see if it's burning through tons of cpu with top
[03:54] <williammanda> superm1, how are things going for 9.10?
[03:55] <superm1> williammanda, shaping up well
[03:55] <williammanda> you graduated yet?
[03:56] <mike_hurley_1> superm1, cpu at about 80% of a core right when mythfrontend starts but once the main gui is visible and not responsive minimal cpu usage
[03:56] <superm1> graduated what?
[03:56] <superm1> mike_hurley_1, hm interesting.
[03:56] <williammanda> college
[03:57] <superm1> oh yeah, almost 2 years ago
[03:57] <williammanda> oh ok
[03:57] <superm1> mike_hurley_1, so see if a more verbose option will get you some more info about what's going on
[03:57] <superm1> and see if turning off media monitor does anything
[04:02] <mike_hurley_1> disabling media monitoring fixes it!
[04:03] <mike_hurley_1> so a different maybe issue, more a curiosity...
[04:04] <mike_hurley_1> in mythbuntu/jaunty, when the frontend was starting with the mythbuntu theme, you'd get a progress bar as it cached theme images and after that the "caching" part had to do nothing so it loaded fast
[04:05] <mike_hurley_1> under mythbuntu/karmic with the mythbuntu theme i don't see the progress bar anymore and it always seems to take about 15-20 sec to get to the GUI
[04:05] <mike_hurley_1> any ideas?
[04:13] <foxbuntu> mike_hurley_1, you are likely seeing two parts of the boot that you really arent noticing
[04:14] <foxbuntu> ugh
[04:14] <foxbuntu> go figure
[09:30] <jussi01> is it just apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop to install on top of kubuntu?
[09:50] <wombo> yep
[09:50] <wombo> or mythbuntu-control-center
[12:19] <directhex> hm
[12:19] <directhex> hmmmmm
[16:30] <_ben> Hm
[16:30] <_ben> got an issue where i can't get mythwelcome to shutdown as i think it's grabbing stuff from EIT
[16:30] <_ben> trying to think of a workaround
[17:41] <mishehu> ugh.  ok, I can barely read this screen from where I am.  is there a libdvdcss package that I can get?
[17:46] <tgm4883> libdvdcss2?
[17:47] <mishehu> funny that didn't show in synaptic
[17:48] <mishehu> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:49] <mishehu> I'm unfortunately dealing with a two year old at the same time here, so I can't run upstairs and use a machine that I can easily use for this type of research
[17:56] <tgm4883> mishehu, you need to enable medibuntu
[17:56] <tgm4883> you can do this all via mythbuntu-control-centre
[17:59] <mishehu> I wish I had a larger screen here
[18:34] <mishehu> I don't get this.  I enabled ac3 and dts to spdif passthrough.  my amp is connected to the pc via optical spdif.  all I here is a series of pulses.
[18:34] <mishehu> if I play the dvd through vlc I get the actual multichannel audio
[18:42] <directhex> AHA, i knew it
[18:42] <directhex> got sound working on myth on karmic
[18:46]  * directhex summons a myth maintainer
[18:47] <tgm4883> directhex, whats up
[19:10] <mishehu> tgm4883: any idea how to handle the sound issue in myth?
[19:11] <mishehu> I've got the device set for alsa:default or default (no diff between the two settings), ac3-to-spdif passthru and dts-to-spdif passthru enabled, and just here pulses instead of actual audio
[20:03] <directhex> tgm4883, sound no worky in karmic.
[20:04] <directhex> tgm4883, setting ALSA:front rather than ALSA:default fixes it
[20:04] <tgm4883> directhex, you have fix?
[20:04] <tgm4883> interestin
[20:04] <directhex> tgm4883, as far as i can tell, the problem is that myth disables pulseaudio on startup - but the "default" plug in alsa uses pulse
[20:04] <tgm4883> directhex, is that a mythbuntu install or a ubuntu install
[20:04] <directhex> tgm4883, ubuntu
[20:05] <tgm4883> ok
[20:05] <tgm4883> superm1, ^
[20:09] <directhex> oh, and the new default theme, "Terra", is ass-backwards in en_GB. german descriptions
[20:09] <Zinn> directhex: Please watch your language.
[20:36] <superm1> directhex, the default theme is Mythbuntu, Terra is the fallback
[20:37] <directhex> not pulled in during a dist-upgrade from jaunty, then. what's the package?
[20:38] <directhex> oh, and there's gotta be a bunch of new conflicts added someplace. my old theme was metallurgy, which causes myth to die on startup unless you remove the package
[20:41] <Daviey> directhex: hard coding to ALSA:front wouldn't be a suitable solution, I have to set it to ALSA:HDMI
[20:41] <Daviey> I haven't tried setting the default to HDMI tbh.
[20:41] <Daviey> I would *expect* that to fix it.
[20:41] <directhex> Daviey, it's a better default than (broken) ALSA:default is, IMHO
[20:42] <superm1> directhex, there is a bug to remove that metallurgy package from the archive
[20:42] <superm1> directhex, mythtv-theme-mythbuntu
[20:42] <directhex> Daviey, i only worked out what the problem was *because* ALSA:hdmi works (as it skips pulse) on one box
[20:42] <superm1> it's not a hard depends or recommends, but if it's there, it's the default
[20:43] <directhex> oh, the theme's nice... except for the segfault accessing mythvideo...
[20:43] <superm1> mythtv-theme-mythbuntu?
[20:43] <superm1> oh metallurgy
[20:43] <superm1> there's an old version in the archive
[20:44] <superm1> there is a new one on it's way, but the old one has to be wiped
[20:44] <directhex> no, mythtv-theme-mythbuntu is segfaulting here when i access mythvideo
[20:44] <directhex> let me try another theme
[20:44] <superm1> it shouldnt be
[20:44] <superm1> if it is, you might have an outdated ~/.mythtv/themecache?
[20:45] <directhex> hm, not theme-dependent. how odd
[20:45] <superm1> phew
[20:45] <superm1> okay :)
[20:45] <directhex> how do i pull more debug info out of this thing?
[20:45] <superm1> verbosity options on the command line
[20:46] <directhex> 2009-10-04 20:46:00.819 MSqlQuery::exec() "SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value = 'VideoStartupDir' AND hostname IS NULL;"
[20:46] <directhex> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[20:47] <superm1> well file an apport report, and hopefully a good BT comes out of it
[20:47] <superm1> and go check your VideoStartupDir in SQL and see if something is out of wack
[20:48] <directhex> yeah, null value -> segfault
[21:00] <directhex> pretty sure the ALSA:default problem is real though
[21:00] <directhex> hell, the default mixer is still /dev/mixer
[21:00] <Zinn> directhex: Please watch your language.
[21:02] <directhex> that bot seems a little oversensitive
[21:11]  * mishehu bahs.
[21:11] <mishehu> yeah it throws a d4mn fit everytime your disk fscks
[21:11]  * mishehu chuckles
[21:11] <mishehu> I think the robot devil would take issue with zinn trying to prevent us from saying h3ll
[21:13] <mishehu> superm1: on 9.04, onboard audio (realcrap chipset), connected to amp via optical spdif.  mythmusic plays fine, but anything with an a52 stream only gives me pulsy static (I did enabled ac3 and dts to spdif passthru in setup).  vlc on the other hand passes the a52 stream straight out hte spdif without any problem.
[21:13] <mishehu> might you have a suggestion?
[22:48] <orificium_> Has MythVideo on MYthweb stopped working for anyone else in recent auto builds?
[22:58] <tgm4883> orificium1, 0.22 or 0.21
[22:58] <orificium_> .22
[22:58] <tgm4883> dpkg -l mythvideo
[22:59] <tgm4883> orificium1, do ^
[22:59] <orificium_> .22.0~trunk22
[22:59] <orificium_> is that the info you were looking for?
[23:00] <tgm4883> you are going to have to expand your terminal window and run it again
[23:00] <tgm4883> but yea, thats kinda what i'm lookin for
[23:00] <orificium_> 0.22.0~trunk22179-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1
[23:00] <tgm4883> let me upgrade my machine
[23:00] <orificium_> This is what I get "Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/translate.php on line 140"
[23:01] <orificium_> I was playing with samba a bit.  Could that have affected things?
[23:01] <tgm4883> ok, mythvideo on  mythweb
[23:01] <tgm4883> sec
[23:02] <tgm4883> orificium1, what are you trying to play, avi?
[23:03] <orificium_> I was just tryignt o load that section of mythweb
[23:03] <orificium_> clicking on the "MythVideo on the web." icon at the top
[23:03] <orificium_> I don't use it that often, but I'm pretty sure it was working before.
[23:04] <orificium_> MythMusic on MythWeb works
[23:09] <jac1d> Good afternoon all.  I am cleaning up and I have a 780G based mini-itx board here I was thinking of using as a frontend.  It has the ATI 3200HD IGP.  I can't seem to get a straight answer about HDMI/sound support.  With 9.04 or higher will I get reasonable use out of it?  Is hw decode support available yet?
[23:11] <tgm4883> orificium1, still upgrading just fyi
[23:17] <tgm4883> orificium, works, here, it wants to reboot so let me do that and try again
[23:17] <orificium> yeah, if you tried to run your frontend, it would probably complain about protocol version
[23:17] <orificium> I tried before the reboot
[23:19] <tgm4883> ok, so what are the exact steps to reproduce
[23:19] <orificium> open http://localhost/mythweb
[23:19] <orificium> Click on MythVideo :)
[23:19] <orificium> Or "Video"
[23:20] <tgm4883> interesting
[23:20] <tgm4883> sec
[23:20] <orificium> attempts to load for about 30 seconds, and gives me that "fatal error"
[23:21] <tgm4883> orificium, what distro release
[23:21] <orificium> 9.04
[23:21] <orificium> + mythbuntu auto-build repos
[23:22] <orificium> using PPA
[23:22] <orificium> trunk PPA
[23:23] <orificium> still work for you after reboot?
[23:24] <tgm4883> orificium, I can't upgrade to the latest mythvideo
[23:24] <tgm4883> ii  mythvideo             0.22.0~trunk22167
[23:24] <tgm4883> apparently it failed to build for karmic
[23:27] <orificium> Ah well. I'll just wait for next autobuild and see how it goes.  I don't really use it that often anyway.
[23:27] <orificium> I wish I understood how to navigate launchpad to investigate :)
[23:28] <orificium> Maybe I need to be logged in to find the sections I'm looking for.
[23:35] <Seeker`> any news on when the new UI will be released?
[23:36] <tgm4883> Seeker`,  new ui?
[23:36] <tgm4883> mythui?
[23:36] <Seeker`> yus
[23:37] <tgm4883> its going to be in mythtv 0.22
[23:37] <tgm4883> which is in mythbuntu 9.10
[23:41] <orificium> Seeker`: http://mythbuntu.org/9.10/beta
[23:43] <superm1> rhpot1991, how'd all the karmic upgrades go?
[23:43] <Seeker`> cool, thanks
[23:44] <Seeker`> not too long to wait then
[23:46] <superm1> Seeker`, all those "Known Issues" should be fixed on web updates too
[23:46] <superm1> so nothing critically broke in beta+updates right now
[23:46] <orificium> web updates?
[23:48] <superm1> update-manager/synaptic/aptdaemon etc
[23:48] <Seeker`> so if I go and type updage-manager -d now, I should get a working mythtv system with mythui etc.?
[23:48] <superm1> well the upgrade scenario has a gaping hole still actually
[23:48] <Seeker`> what is that?
[23:48] <superm1> where mysql-server has a tendency to get removed
[23:48] <Seeker`> erm
[23:49] <Seeker`> so the statment "so nothing critically broke in beta+updates right now" wouldn't be totally accurate? :P
[23:49] <orificium> Seeker`: What are you running right now?
[23:49] <Seeker`> latest version of 9.04 I think
[23:50] <Seeker`> (can never remember the command to check)
[23:51] <Seeker`> 9.04 mythbuntu that is
[23:51] <superm1> Seeker`, assuming you start at beta, no :)
[23:52] <Seeker`> but that involves me wiping all of my settings etc?
[23:52] <orificium> Seeker`: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/testing/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mythbuntu-repos/mythbuntu-repos_2-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu5_all.deb would get you to .22
[23:52] <orificium> Seeker`: http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds    Probably want to backup mythconverg though
[23:53] <Seeker`> so would I be looking at using trunk builds?
[23:54] <tgm4883> Seeker`, actually
[23:54] <tgm4883> you want this https://edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/repos/+files/mythbuntu-repos_5-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu~karmic_all.deb
[23:54] <tgm4883> orificium, new package, just hasn't made it to the webpage yet
[23:54] <orificium> oh ok
[23:54] <Seeker`> does the rest of the system need to be karmic for that?
[23:55] <superm1> no it doesnt
[23:55] <tgm4883> just pushed last night actually
[23:55] <orificium> tgm4883: if I'm using the old package, would I want to download that new one?
[23:56] <tgm4883> orificium, maybe
[23:57] <tgm4883> it wouldn't change much now, but it does activate another repo
[23:57] <tgm4883> plus it doesn't call it fixes/trunk anymore