[10:28] <hyperair> mac_v: do you know anything about notify-osd ignoring newlines in notifications?
[10:29] <mac_v> hyperair: huh? you mean not appending im lines? but instead showing them as bubbles?
[10:29] <mac_v> separate *
[10:30] <mac_v> hyperair: but i think MacSlow/Sidi would know more about this
[10:30] <hyperair> nono
[10:30] <hyperair> i'm talking something like notify-send title "body\nwith\nnew\nline"
[10:30] <hyperair> SiDi: ^?
[10:31] <hyperair> it's breaking banshee's now playing notifications
[10:31] <hyperair> and the wiki says that newlines should be treated as well newlines
[10:31] <hyperair> rather than ignored
[10:31] <mac_v> hyperair: $ notify-send "Title" "Body" imagename
[10:31] <hyperair> banshee's now playing notifications are formatted like: $title\n<i>$artist</i>
[10:32] <hyperair> note the \n
[10:32] <mac_v> oh that 
[10:32] <mac_v> dont know
[10:32] <hyperair> it's ignored, so it ends up all in one line, and there's no way to see the difference between the title and the artist
[10:32] <SiDi> hyperair: i type my command in gedit with real CR and then i copy it to terminal
[10:32] <hyperair> hmm macslow's not around eh =(
[10:33] <hyperair> SiDi: and does notify-osd show it as a newline?
[10:33] <SiDi> ie. notify-send "hi <new line here> hi"
[10:33] <SiDi> yes
[10:33] <hyperair> SiDi: in banshee's case it seems to be ignoring the newline, treating it as a normal whitespace char
[10:33] <SiDi> somehow \n gets interpreted as '\''n' if you type it
[10:33] <mac_v> hyperair: i'v tried /n and it *used to* work with thunderbird... but now , i'l stopped using the extension
[10:33] <mac_v> \n*
[10:33] <hyperair> SiDi: well i typed notify-send title "body<enter>body"
[10:33] <SiDi> it works fine in exaile
[10:35] <hyperair> SiDi: could you pastebin the output of `dbus-monitor interface=org.freedesktop.Notifications` when exaile sends out one of its notifications please?
[10:35] <SiDi> err, how do i do that? :D
[10:35] <SiDi> oh, im stupid
[10:35] <hyperair> erm run said command and then press your next media button key or something?
[10:36] <SiDi> sec
[10:36] <hyperair> in addition, notify-osd seems to be ignoring the album art
[10:37] <SiDi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/286063/
[10:39] <hyperair> hmm how strange
[10:40] <hyperair> SiDi: what is "Cry"?
[10:40] <hyperair> SiDi: it seems to be the title of the notification
[10:40] <hyperair> is it the album name or something?
[10:41] <SiDi> its the title
[10:41] <SiDi> We use the track title as the bubble title
[10:41] <SiDi> then "By foo\nFrom bar"
[10:41] <SiDi> but i changed mines a little :p
[10:44] <hyperair> hmm..
[10:45] <mac_v> hyperair: how are you sending notify send? this is what i used for thunderbird > dy = body + subject + " ,from " + author + "\r\n"
[10:45] <mac_v> oops > body = body + subject + " ,from " + author + "\r\n"
[10:45] <hyperair> mac_v: from a terminal.
[10:46] <hyperair> to be a little moer sure, i did something like this as well:
[10:46] <hyperair> $ perl
[10:46] <hyperair> system("notify-send","title","body\nbody\n");
[10:46] <hyperair> but the newlines were ignored
[10:46] <hyperair> SiDi: what version of notify-osd?
[10:48] <SiDi> hm, 0.9.18
[10:48] <SiDi> works same with the jaunty and trunk
[10:48] <SiDi> brb
[10:48] <hyperair> i'm using 0.9.23
[10:49] <hyperair> and this is behaviour i only noticed recently
[10:49] <hyperair> geez can you all please follow/update the wikipage when things are changed?
[10:49] <hyperair> this is so annoying
[10:54] <mac_v> hyperair: there seems to be a bug , it seems to ignore "\"
[10:55] <hyperair> that's another matter entirely
[10:55] <hyperair> i'm talking about \n
[10:55] <hyperair> as in U+000D
[10:55] <hyperair> or was it 0A
[10:55] <mac_v> hyperair: yeah  ,since its ignoring '\' , i think the problem is being caused
[10:55] <mac_v> but anyways ;)
[10:56] <mac_v> both \r or \n is not working here for me now
[10:56] <hyperair> \ is another character entirely!
[10:56] <hyperair> it's not passed to notify-osd as a literal \
[10:57] <mac_v> i understand that... but saying :)
[10:58]  * hyperair sighs
[10:58] <hyperair> bah whatever
[10:58]  * hyperair begins chanting some gibberish in an attempt to summon macslow
[10:59] <hyperair> +and earning weird looks from others in the same room as i am
[11:12] <hyperair> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/402247
[11:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 402247 in notify-osd "Carriage returns in bubble title should be converted to a single space" [Medium,Fix released] 
[11:12] <hyperair> ...what is the big idea?!
[11:12]  * hyperair curses repeatedly
[11:12] <hyperair> it's fine if you're going to remove actions, or even formatting, but for the love of god leave my newlines alone!!
[11:12] <hyperair> $%^&*()
[16:07] <hyperair> MacSlow: aha you're here!
[16:07] <hyperair> or are you?
[16:07] <MacSlow> hyperair, I am but in a phone-conf at a dev-sprint
[16:07] <hyperair> MacSlow: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/402247
[16:07] <hyperair> ah. i see
[16:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 402247 in notify-osd "Carriage returns in bubble title should be converted to a single space" [Medium,Fix released] 
[16:07] <hyperair> well take your time. basically i'd like to talk to you about that
[16:08] <MacSlow> hyperair, if there's something... email better
[16:08] <hyperair> i did post my concerns on that bug report.
[16:08] <hyperair> please take a look when you have time
[19:52] <Laney> wiggle
[19:53] <Laney> MacSlow: Are you around to look at a dbus log of org.fd.notifications? Some images that Banshee is trying to display aren't shown
[19:53] <Laney> http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/dbus.log
[19:58] <MacSlow> Laney, in meetings at a dev-sprint... not really here
[19:59] <Laney> it's alright, we are async
[19:59] <Laney> you can reply when you get time
[20:47] <hyperair> MacSlow: re what Laney said, further testing appears to show that notify-osd rejects all non-square icons. is that supposed to happen?
[20:48] <hyperair> specifically the {icon,image}_data icons. the ones passed by path appear to work.
[20:52] <MacSlow> hyperair, no... I can pass a non-square icon... and see it being displayed
[20:52] <hyperair> MacSlow: via notify-send?
[20:53] <MacSlow> yup... works just fine here
[20:53] <hyperair> MacSlow: the ones passed via the app_icon string as mentioned here: http://www.galago-project.org/specs/notification/0.9/x408.html#command-notify work fine
[20:53] <hyperair> MacSlow: the ones i'm talking about are those taht are passed as a byte array
[20:53] <hyperair> notify-send passes it via the app_icon string
[20:54] <hyperair> take out dbus-monitor and watch it
[20:54] <MacSlow> hyperair, no time to jump into debugging yet... please file a bug with a detailed description showing how to reproduce this.
[20:55] <hyperair> alright
[20:55] <hyperair> wait
[20:55] <hyperair> i have no idea how to reproduce this
[20:55] <hyperair> i mean there's no way you can reproduce this using notify-send, at least