[00:19] * ScottK has power again! [00:20] \o/ === Riddelll is now known as Riddell [00:46] * txwikinger wonders if ScottK is hiding in Indonesia's typhoon area [00:47] Nope. [00:47] power problems? [00:47] Did we cut the power supply again to US because of non-payments? [00:48] A presumably drunk driver on a motor cycle came flying down the main road about 4am last night and hit two deer and the power pole. It finaly gave way this afternoon and has just been repaired. [00:48] Amazingly enough he is said to have survived with minor injuries. [00:48] Ah... drunk drivers again [00:48] Yep. [00:48] they are a menace [00:49] They reduce the limit here to 0.5 [00:49] One of the deer was hit hard enough that the head was on one side of the road and the body on the other. [00:49] *reduced [00:49] I think it's still .08 here. [00:49] Hmmm... roadkill [00:49] lets start the fire :D [00:50] wow [00:50] enabling message indicator in quassel doesn't work? or is it only supposed to show when the first message arrives? [00:50] message indicator? [00:51] a|wen: I didn't get it to work at all yet [00:51] what is it supposed to do? [00:51] Collect up messages to you so you don't have to worry about missing stuff [00:51] can someone highlight me again in 5 secs from now? [00:52] a|wen: It's possible my patch to have it not default on was wrong. [00:52] a|wen: highlighting [00:52] There was a value that was set to true and I set it to false. It might be I should have just deleted that line. [00:52] ScottK: yeah, it clearly doesn't work now at least [00:53] i've even restarted quassel after enabling the message indicator under notifications [00:53] Crazy football weekend [00:54] ScottK: did you only meddle with the standard values of settings; or deeper in the program? [00:55] a|wen: The setting is set in the code (quassel doesn't segrate default settings out like KDE apps do). [00:56] I thought I was changing the default to false, but I may have hard coded it to off. [00:56] Since agateau is off on baby leave, I don't have him around to ask. [00:57] sounds like a valid assumption [00:57] Let me try something. [01:01] Actually I'm not sure. [01:01] try ping me again in 5 secs [01:01] a|wen: PING [01:01] this OO bug will be the end of me... [01:02] File extensions work now. Thanks for that. [01:03] ScottK: thought you might have switched around the meaning of the option; but no ... but on the other hand; do we at all enable it as default in the kubuntu apps? [01:03] It's meant to not be enabled by default in Kubuntu [01:03] ahh, and it is enabled as defaul upstream? [01:04] We provide it since some Ubuntu apps expect it unconditionally and as an option for users that want it in Kubuntu apps. [01:04] a|wen: Only by accident. [01:04] Upstream applied agateau's patch and didn't notice that bit. It was fixed right after I pointed it out [01:05] Upstream uses Gentoo and doesn't have a way to test it. [01:06] ahh ... well we can try to test with the patch disabled to see if that makes the indicator work at all [01:08] I'd say that's a good place to start [01:10] * a|wen tries [01:11] eeep. The Steelers are using funny helmets tonight [01:12] hmm, update-notifier-kde always seems to appear once, and disappear within 1-2 seconds (with kdeinit4 crashing? apport can't build the full crash report) [01:16] Even if it could, it'd just tell you you can't report it because you have packages out of dates. [01:16] dates/date [01:16] heh, got a point [01:17] so the magically unreportable bug [01:17] was also wondering if anybody else was having it crash all the time? [01:18] Seems about like what I experience. [01:18] I didn't look into it though. [01:20] okay ... kind of hard to get a backtrace [01:20] oh well, knetworkmanager icon still duplicates (though this time the second icon merged with the quassel icon, instead of replacing the kdebluetooth icon) [01:22] but 4.3.2 seems to have fixed kontact not closing correctly, and crashing when trying to reopen the app :) [01:23] txwikinger: burgher? [01:23] hmm.. I have something coming up in quassell [01:24] oddly it looks like gnome not like kde [01:24] maco: what does burgher mean? [01:25] txwikinger: asking if youre a pittsburgher [01:25] Ah :D [01:25] you're talking about the Steelers [01:25] No.. I am on the other site of the big lake [01:25] I guess they are the closest team line of site.. but not sure about it [01:27] Well.. Bills are actually closer.. and the Lions too [01:29] * txwikinger thinks he needs a pilot license... everything is so far away [01:42] okay, now without the patch ... can someone ping me in a moment? [01:44] a|wen: How's that? [01:45] Maybe I need to ping a|wen twice [01:45] still no change [01:46] maco: you called? [01:46] seele: i did? [01:46] oh [01:46] i have a missed call from you [01:46] i wanted to ask what kind of icon would make sense for a mips emulator [01:47] because this package lacks both a .desktop and icons [01:47] someone in -artwork suggested a CPU die that says "MIPS" on it [01:48] oh, i have no idea [01:48] ScottK: can i have you ping me again in 5 secs ... just wanted to make a restart after changing the settings, to be sure it wasn't that [01:48] might want to ask nuno [01:48] a|wen: Ping [01:49] still doesn't work [01:49] well, at least we ruled the patch out as the single point of failure [01:52] hmm, now knetworkmanager icon has both merged with quassel icon and taken over the kdebluetooth icon ... something is wrong with either k-n-m or plasma [01:53] the systray's always been a bit fiddly when handling old style and new style icons [01:55] so most likely plasma is to blame ... a bit annoying though, when you can't get to kdebluetooth [01:55] a|wen: Thanks for checking [01:56] victory! http://imagebin.ca/view/x_nLZf.html vs http://imagebin.ca/view/tIV_aCf.html [01:56] no apport detection yet, but this is still a considerable win [01:57] also my dbus encantation is incorrect in updatehelpernotifier so restarting doesn't actually work... [01:57] you gained a few megs there, heh [01:58] I'm porting update-notifier-kde to C++ [01:58] uh, fancy [01:58] well, kinda porting [01:58] anyway, I lost a few megs ^_^ [01:58] It sits nicely at 1.8 MB until you actually need to be told to reboot [01:59] is it still in charge of notifying of package updates? or that was handed over to kpackagekit right? [01:59] yeah, kpackagekit does that [02:00] update-notifier-kde handles reboot notifications, apport detection on reboot and restricted instals [02:03] was right then earlier today ... thx [02:03] nn all around [02:22] was there a mass giveback today? [02:25] Yes [02:25] Should all have low build scores, so only get retried after new uploads [02:56] Did we decide any seed changes at the meeting other than going back to dragonplayer instead of kaffeine? [03:06] OK. I guess not. I'll upload the kubuntu-meta change for that. [03:11] um [03:12] the spanish kde language pack is now down to a fraction of it's previous size [03:12] I'm guessing that's not good [03:12] kubuntu-meta uploaded, btw [03:12] kaffeine, the networkmanagement applet and k3b are about the only things translated [03:13] amarok and akregator are too [03:13] Lovely [03:14] And it was almost perfect for apps in the core kde modules too :( [03:14] apachelogger uploaded the fix for the last few untranslated strings in Qt the other day [03:14] and then boom! all of it gone [03:16] We only have 15.4% of the translations we had earlier today [03:17] looks to only affect spanish though [03:17] OK, put kaffeine on the dvd too, to keep it in main [03:21] kdepim seems to be the only KDE module that has translations. [03:26] bug 442742 [03:26] Launchpad bug 442742 in language-pack-kde-es-base "[es] Update of 20091003 have 15.4% of the KDE translations from 20090926" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/442742 [03:26] If dpm shows up and I'm not around and he hasn't already seen this, somebody please poke him [03:32] JontheEchidna: You also need to target it to the release to get it on the release team's radar (just did that) [03:32] I think I can only suggest targets since it's in main [03:33] that's true. [03:33] A core-dev would have had to accept it in any case. [03:36] That was funny. Wrote a nice changelog entry, checked the maintainer and fixed that, and then started to test build the package without actually making the fix. [03:36] Oops. [03:38] gonna ask again...anyone know why if you have 1 user setup, kdm doesn't show the user list, but as soon as you add another user it shows up? is this expected, because it almost sounds like it is to me in a way [03:38] why would you need a userlist for 1 damn user [03:39] haven't seen it, but sounds like good behavior to me [03:58] yep [04:00] yep to what? [04:01] there are people having crazy cpu utilization with plasma-desktop...anyone have any ideas? [04:01] bug 419054 [04:01] Launchpad bug 419054 in kdebase-workspace "kdeinit4: plasma-desktop takes 60-90% of CPU" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419054 [04:02] Not here [04:03] those are always a bitch to debug [04:04] kill flash prob goes away. bet its a nsplugin running [04:04] it erroneously will show as plasma eating cpu... [04:24] ok, someone else look at bug 428741 as I can't find anything that says yes it is expected, or not is a bug...either through us or upstream, and nobody here seems to know the answer either [04:24] Launchpad bug 428741 in kdebase-workspace "kdm does not display one of the users" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/428741 [04:25] anyone know what controls screen brightness that would affect both Ubuntu and Kubuntu when using the battery applets to try and change the brightness? [04:32] nixternal: that nc10 issue? It requires a special kernel module [04:33] I've marked it as a duplicate against the issue in the linux package [04:44] yes, I just found that bug JontheEchidna [04:44] marking all of these damn nc10 backlight ones duplicate of the one you were working on [04:51] whoa, this nc10 shit is starting to pop up everywhere... bug 329351 [04:51] Launchpad bug 329351 in kdebase "Powerdevil Brightness/DPMS settings not working" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/329351 [04:51] obviously the one who reopened the bug had a different issue [04:52] JontheEchidna: bug 193510 - it works as he expected btw [04:52] Launchpad bug 193510 in kdebase-workspace "[hardy] krunner is unable to run "$HOME/some_elf" or any command with an environment variable" [Wishlist,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193510 [04:52] I just did a foo.sh and it asks me if I really want to execute it [04:52] hmm, it didn't the last time I checked [04:53] and what do you know, foo.sh just rm -rf /* [04:53] ;p [04:53] lol [04:53] it worked for me [04:53] cool [04:53] it's working like a champ [04:54] I still can't get it to work... $HOME/.screenres.sh doesn't show any results in krunner [04:54] though I have no clue why the hell I would want to do that [04:54] no, it won't show results in konqi [04:54] krunner [04:54] oh [04:54] oh dude [04:54] I read Konqueror in there and thought it was konqi [04:54] heh :) [04:55] you know what, it used to work, as I used to figure up stuff in $HOME all the time with it [04:55] I remember talking to aseigo about this a long time ago [04:56] please stop with the KHelpCenter missing docs list...it needs to be pushed upstream and closed in Ubuntu already [04:56] cuz I am going to be the sorry bastard fixing it upstream anyways [04:56] sure thing [04:56] though I haven't looked at it in a while...it was a damn good list that could have created an ass ton of new bugs for kde-docs [04:57] I will assign them all to jjesse and philrod for payback [04:57] muwahaha [04:57] kde docs suck, so do ours, if you didn't already know though [04:57] it is getting damn near impossible to maintain with just 2 people [04:58] I don't get how gnome gets a bunch of suckers...err i mean contributors, to help with documentation [04:58] kde nor us can get them [04:58] KDE seriously needs a documentation sprint [04:58] KDE's usage of easy programming languages sucks contributors who would otherwise be unable to code :D [04:58] and the good thing is, we could hold one here in Chicago when Phil Rodriguez is here working :) [04:59] I wonder if bug 436864 could be caused by not having an explicit dependency on python-kde4 [04:59] Launchpad bug 436864 in kdebase-workspace "zz-plasma-remove-network-manager.py crashed with ImportError in ()" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436864 [04:59] though he doesn't leave the lab much when he is here [04:59] oh, I thought that was fixed [04:59] we tested that bastard and it worked [05:00] I've not seen any more instances of it [05:01] bug 438224 - tell me that doesn't scream pulse audio [05:01] Launchpad bug 438224 in kdebase-workspace "On Logon, Claims Sound Devices Were Removed" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/438224 [05:01] oh, yeah. definitely [05:01] and I believe it is pulse on his system, especially with all of the gstreamer shit pulled in [05:01] The day somebody creates a NetworkKit we are all doooomed [05:02] lol [05:02] *Kit == DOOM [05:03] is that polkit stuff gonna get fixed? [05:03] I committed a fix this morning [05:03] there has to be at least 1 bug to fix in this mess [05:03] the k3b issue was the same polkit issue [05:03] i didn't have the k3b issue [05:03] or, the issue in system settings? [05:03] yeah [05:03] install policykit and everything's fine [05:03] ya, i was using that one as an example during the bug jam [05:04] I had started typing 'JontheEchidna is gonna mess with this one anyways, so who cares' and everyone was laughing :) [05:04] when we went from the policykit-kde package to kdebase-workspace-bin, the policykit dep got lost [05:04] ha, really? [05:04] yup [05:04] haha [05:04] it is on video too, but luckily the audio wasn't recorded...as I was saying some mean things about people in here :p [05:05] we had a woman there that was having fun with the stuff on mark with his latest comments [05:05] she was like "I heard you are the most politically incorrect person there is, how come you are being so nice?" [05:05] lol [05:06] so I started playing with the camera being politically incorrect, then everyone joined in..then we went for beer :p [05:12] aha! bug 92932 [05:12] Launchpad bug 92932 in kdebase-workspace "Cannot unlock the session if the session is locked by screensaver or locked from start menu, KDE 3.5.6" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92932 [05:12] holy shit [05:12] oh, that's a bit old [05:12] you think? [05:12] yeah... [05:13] hmm, it's the only thing related to bug 351463 that I can find though [05:13] Launchpad bug 351463 in kdebase-workspace "KDE4 screensaver lock doesn't accept password" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/351463 [05:13] nixternal: Don't forget the need for kitkit to manage all the kits [05:13] if (bug < 40000) { age = old; purge = true; } [05:13] same issue of kcheckpass not being setuid'd [05:13] ScottK: hahaha [05:13] holy shit [05:13] I am going to create KitKit [05:13] the *Kit Manager [05:13] Give Me A Break! [05:13] Give Me A Break! [05:13] ^it'd give options of which components of your system you'd like to fuck up [05:13] Everyone break me off a piece of that KitKit bar! [05:14] hahahahhaha [05:14] dude...oh for the love of cats...I want to do that now [05:16] kde bug 177450 looks like a problem with the old kde-nightly packaging [05:16] KDE bug 177450 in kcheckpass "Can't unlock the screen; proper password fails" [Normal,Resolved: downstream] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177450 [05:16] dunno if bug 351463 was reported from kde-nightly [05:16] Launchpad bug 351463 in kdebase-workspace "KDE4 screensaver lock doesn't accept password" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/351463 [05:16] I doubt it since apachelogger stopped maintaining it a while back [05:17] shit, i get tired of duplicates [05:17] either LP sucks at finding them, or people are to stupid to file reports [05:18] doesn't matter anyways, our bug shit is goign the way of MS Windows anyways [05:18] pretty soon you will get a popup that says "Send to developers or Ignore?" [05:18] I used to imagine how microsoft handled getting 1 billion reports of application failure a day, even third party ones [05:19] now I don't [05:19] I waiting for Ubuntu to just automate the computer...kind of like one of those pianos that just play...you push the start button, then watch your computer do things...never have to touch a damn thing [05:19] well, except when apport pops up [05:19] just give people a computer with no input kernel module and running automated QA tests [05:20] just sit them in a char and stair at a well [05:20] preferably a brown wall [05:30] Just script to incomplete and let the janitor do the rest. [05:30] I think that is brian does [05:31] don't know why I got into a bug triage mood either...i figure canonical pays people to do this, why should I help [05:32] "Learn Java EE and Get a Free Sony PSP!" [05:32] Not for our shit they don't. [05:32] they have Riddell :p [05:33] Does he triage bugs? [05:33] no, we do [05:33] actually, you all do [05:33] I don't do shit [05:34] You didn't need to tell us that last bit. [05:34] everyone already knows ey? figured I would just reiterate it so everyone would remember [05:34] I will be gone for a month here starting next week, so you all can finally get some work done [05:34] hopefully I come back [05:35] I will be riding past your house though on my bike, but I don't think we are staying in DC [05:35] we are staying overnight somewhere north of DC, like 45 minutes north...and then we are riding down to Quantico...i know the distance is just over 70 miles that day [05:35] I'm closer to Baltimore now. [05:36] Where is the one north of DC? [05:36] oh, so when I go visit my cousin you can take me out for beer :) [05:36] i can't remember...i will have to look over the sheet again [05:36] OK. Might be close to my house [05:37] oh, we are staying in aberdeen [05:38] then we push off for quantico the following morning at 5am [05:38] woohoo [05:39] holy smokes, that is 106 miles that day [05:39] if look closely in DC, you might find parts of my arse lying on the road [05:40] Yeah, Aberdeen's still pretty far north in MD. [05:40] I fly into DC on the 15th, head down to st. mary's county, hang out with my daughter for about a week, then fly out of dc to maine, drive over to bar harbor, pick up the bikes at the local shop, spend the night eating and drinking...then the next day we start off at 12pm for a nice 73 mile ride..then all hell breaks loose after that [05:41] Where do you finish? [05:42] Miami Florida [05:43] unless we make good time and can make it to the keys [05:43] the entire ride is like just under 1800 miles [05:45] That's a ways [05:45] 2 weeks of riding, but it will take us 20 or 21 days total, as we will have a day off every 4th day I think [05:45] Ubuntu could have sponsored me, but they didn't...so I got Novell, Google, and a couple of small companies in chicago [05:46] all that means is their logos will be on our SAG vehicle [05:46] until we get around DC and they realize they are the magnatized logos...then we will have no logos :) [06:50] what did nixternal drink tonight? [06:51] nope [06:53] txwikinger: yeah, I was going to comment on that too :P [06:53] :D [07:03] Riddell: kipi-plugins FFe ready in bug 442571, changes pushed to bzr, just need ACK from ubuntu-release and upload (use orig.tar.gz from debian unstable) [07:03] Launchpad bug 442571 in kipi-plugins "FFe for kipi-plugins 0.7.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/442571 === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === kjeldahl is now known as kjeldahl__ === kjeldahl_ is now known as kjeldahl === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [10:06] Using experimental xf86-video-ati with 3D support, but now systemsettings refuses to load. Just hangs. Strace indicates it is stat'ing /usr/share/kde4/config/kdebug.areas a lot of times before giving up and existing. [10:11] Seems NO applications, except those stored in session, is willing to start. Same problem. Looks like something essential in the kde system died on startup, but the session loaded programs run just fine. [10:20] Anybody have any ideas why my kde desktop refuses to launch any kde applications, but runs things like glxgears and firefox (non-kde apps) just fine? [10:21] Machine is also loaded, so I'm guessing kde is doing something, just do not know what. Happened after installing new open source ati drivers and mesa 3D. [11:58] Riddell: did you see my post about kipi-plugins? [11:59] Riddell: before I jump on digikam: since beta5 seems to be last release before karmic release, how can we release 1.0.0/final when available? [11:59] Riddell: and what about translations (since LP will strip them out)? [12:00] Riddell: I think we should get it in karmic-updates, but I am sure SRU rules are too strict for somethign like that [12:04] Lure: it can go into backports [12:04] I don't think translations get stripped from backports, that would be pointless [12:05] wasn't that the point why the non-english kde-experience on kubuntu was bad in case one started using backports/ppa ? [12:07] in the past we havn't put up kde-i10n into the PPAs, I've had very few complains about that come through to me but I think mgraesslin includead one in hs rant from the other day [12:07] so I'll include kde-l10n in the 4.3.2 PPA backports [12:07] hmm german would be cool to have :) [12:08] Riddell: yay, you're the man! :D [12:08] Riddell: good idea - there were many complaints in the German uu forum [12:09] maybe I just don't get complaints about lack of kde-l10n because they're all in foreign languages, that would have a certain logic to it [12:09] possible [12:09] it was unusable [12:09] I just hope my bandwidth is up to it [12:09] it was like half a sentence in English the other in German [12:10] the "workaround" was to use debian's translation [12:10] yeah i did [12:10] nah stop [12:10] i used the karmic translations [12:10] cause they worked [12:10] in jaunty [12:10] :) [12:11] I tried those, too, but it wasn't perfect, with sid's translation it is perfect [12:27] JontheEchidna: bug 436748 was really just a missing depends?! [12:27] Launchpad bug 436748 in kdebase-workspace "polkit-kde-manager assert failure: *** glibc detected *** polkit-kde-manager: double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x089cb310 ***" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436748 [13:28] Riddell: heh, yeah [13:50] yuriy: the e-mail your forwarded to k-d seems badly formatted [13:57] JontheEchidna: The retracers finally got to the khtml crash you asked me if I could reproduce last week. I couldn't reproduce it, but I did re-report with the full report instead of the abbreviated one. Backtrace is in Bug 440361. [13:57] Bug 440361 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/440361 is private [13:58] Oops [14:00] Fixed [14:43] Riddell: was that more readable? [14:45] Riddell: can you ACK bug 442571 or do I need to hunt for somebody else? [14:45] Launchpad bug 442571 in kipi-plugins "FFe for kipi-plugins 0.7.0" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/442571 [14:46] Riddell: (or s/o with powahs) patches for bug 415237 and bug 439758 [14:46] Launchpad bug 415237 in kde4libs "Can't report KDE bugs" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415237 [14:46] Launchpad bug 439758 in kde4libs "KDE crash handler is used if apport-kde is not present, even if apport-gtk is" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439758 [14:46] Lure: yes I was just distracted by 4.3.2 stuff first, what's a good way to test kipi-plugins with gwenview? [14:46] yuriy: you should be able to commit to ~kubuntu-members ? [14:46] yuriy: nothing new come through on e-mail [14:47] Anything in Plugins menu is from kipi-plugins [14:47] Riddell: so just try what you will [14:47] * Lure forgot that kde 4.3.2 is being packaged these days [14:48] Riddell: oh right.. that's not the ones that were moved to -backports. d'oh. [14:48] Riddell: i sent it just to you [14:50] Lure: isnt tomorrow release day :P [14:55] Lure: acked [14:55] yuriy: nothing here [15:16] Riddell: thanks - so will you upload or should I ask some other core-dev for help? [15:18] Lure: I can, after kde-l10n [15:18] apachelogger: I think I broke ruby http://paste.ubuntu.com/286229/ [15:19] Riddell: I noticed kdebase-workspace-bin doesn't depend on policykit, only the libs, which ends up a segfault if missing... [15:19] Tonio__: JontheEchidna fixed that in bzr [15:19] Riddell: that's why it crashed for me.... I'm adding the dep if you don't mind [15:19] Riddell: ok right, just a little faster than me then :) [15:20] uha [15:20] Riddell: actually I think lp did [15:20] Riddell: want me to upload or are we waiting for other changes ? === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [15:20] Tonio_: waiting on 4.3.2 tomorrow [15:20] Riddell: thanks [15:21] Riddell: hum right, I forgot about that one :) [15:21] lett's wait then [15:23] Tonio_: do you have plans to update skrooge for karmic? we have very old version in the archive... === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:25] same applies for kmymoney2 [15:25] Lure: very ? not that much [15:25] Lure: it is just the previous one [15:25] kmymoney2 we definitely want updated [15:26] Lure: the versioning sheme changed, that's why it looks the version is pretty old [15:26] Lure: this new version has a lot of new features.... it is probably a little late to update no ? [15:26] Lure: unless you have another opinion on that point... [15:27] Tonio_: since it is developed pretty hard it is bad to have old release in new ubuntu release [15:27] ScottK: bah this is still kde3 isn't it ? [15:27] Tonio_: I can look into it and ask for FFe [15:27] And that KDE4 version is out. [15:27] when I am done with digikam [15:27] Lure: as you wish :) [15:27] Lure: ping me when done so that I can upload :) [15:27] ScottK: interesting [15:27] ScottK: anyway I think skrooge is part of kde now [15:27] and pretty well maintained [15:28] * ScottK didn't ask about skrooge [15:28] Tonio_: it's universe, so I can due (if I remember how to use dput ;-) [15:28] do it [15:28] ScottK: great, got it in my ppa, bumped claydoh's 1.0.1 to 1.0.2 in my ppa [15:28] ScottK: yeah but as you were talking about kmymoney... :) [15:28] Tonio_: Then should we ask to have the separate skrooge package removed? [15:28] Lure: right [15:28] freinhard: I think Lure is the one to tell about htat [15:29] ScottK: nope it is not part of kde that way, let's say it is hosted inside the kde project [15:29] not released with kde of course :) [15:29] I see [15:29] Lure: bump kmymoney2, now! :D [15:30] ScottK: skrooge removed? [15:31] * Lure notices we are discussing competitive applications [15:32] Lure: yup :) [15:32] * Lure goes and start KMyMoneyVsSkrooge wiki page ;-) [15:32] since there seem to be enough devs for both, competition is a good thing. [15:33]