[00:20] <dartagnan> accept backdorrs
[00:20] <dartagnan> lol
[00:21] <dartagnan> you are laughing at the nounoune
[00:25] <rabidweezle> only a couple few more weeks until karmic comes out... hope it will be ready for the masses
[00:26] <rabidweezle> oops, wrong channel, sorry
[00:34] <yang_> Hey can somebody help me with a dns issue?
[00:36] <yang_> anybody?
[00:39] <drissben> salut
[00:47] <dan____> is anyone here?
[00:54] <gorgonzola> any chance of getting a working amarok 2.2 in kubuntu ppas?
[01:03] <Xtreme> hie there, can somebody tell me how to change the x11 permission on Kubuntu 9.04?
[01:19] <dan____> anyone here?
[01:24] <virtualhate> hello..
[01:24] <Vert> I am here.
[01:25] <Vert> But I am nobody and I know nothing, so...
[01:25]  * Vert considers changing her name to ¨Patently Useless¨
[01:25] <virtualhate> what is the purpose of this chat room . ??
[01:25] <virtualhate> just found it in my list of things..
[01:26] <Vert> I would suppose it is to provide support for all things Ubuntu?
[01:26] <virtualhate> hmm interesting
[01:26] <virtualhate> ok then, I have a problem :) how nice..
[01:26] <Vert> I wonder if peter is a person or a bot?
[01:26] <Vert> lol
[01:26] <Vert> I hope you aren´t asking me.
[01:26] <Vert> I know NOTHING.
[01:26] <Vert> I can even figure out how to install SDL
[01:26] <virtualhate> lol
[01:26] <virtualhate> hmm I don't know what sdl is
[01:27] <Vert> or why when I say ¨install this file" the system tells me ¨What file?¨
[01:27] <virtualhate> my kpackagekit is broken :(
[01:27] <Vert> Then I do ¨ls¨ and it lists the very file it doesn´t see at all.
[01:28] <Vert> And *then* I bang my head into my keyboard for about 20 minutes or so.
[01:28] <virtualhate> Does banging yer head seem to help ?
[01:28] <Vert> It makes me too tired to be angry anymore.
[01:28] <Vert> So... kind of?
[01:28] <virtualhate> agreed.
[01:29] <virtualhate> ok well im off to google, and some more wine..
[01:29] <Vert> good luck
[01:29] <virtualhate> real wine, not linux's wine
[01:29] <Vert> I will try to comprehend the FAQ some more.
[01:29] <virtualhate> lol
[01:29] <Vert> :)
[01:39] <Vert> Hallelujah! I have accidentally hit the right keys and am now installing SDL
[01:39] <Vert> I think I would learn a lot quicker if I had *any* idea WTF I am doing.
[01:55] <koh__> Trouble setting screen size to x1024
[04:09] <neojacks> WOW!!!
[04:09] <neojacks> WTH is this?!?!?!?!!
[04:17] <tomdavidson> Hello, im having troubles connecting to an openvpn server. I have all the key and certs from the vpn admin along with a vpn config file. ive tried network manager and kvpnc. openvpn is installed.
[04:51] <yang_> hey can somebody help me with rndc?
[04:54] <HollowPoint> yang_: whats the issue?
[04:55] <yang_> rndc wont connect to bind9 locally
[04:55] <HollowPoint> giving a socket error?
[04:55] <yang_> hollowPoint: no a invalid key is the problem
[04:55] <HollowPoint> aaaaaaaaaaaah
[04:56] <HollowPoint> I had that problem once I'm trying to remember how I solved it
[04:56] <yang_> HollowPoint: i tried with the but there is no /etc/rndc.conf file
[04:56] <HollowPoint> it was a feature of rndc first of all to re-generate a new key, I had to use that first
[04:56] <yang_> HollowPoint: rndc-confgen
[04:56] <HollowPoint> if there's no rndc.conf file I would first and foremost find a generic one with google and modify it
[04:57] <yang_> HollowPoint: but it produces no output... related to the /dev/random not being seeded and out of ouput
[04:57] <HollowPoint> hmmmmm
[04:57] <yang_> HollowPoint: i have one generic that dosn't make a diffrence for somereason
[04:58] <HollowPoint> it's been a long time since I had this error. Are you on Jaunty? did it ever work?
[04:58] <yang_> Yeah Im on jaunty. I have unistalled and reinstall purge like 3 or 4 times today. I made it work onces
[04:59] <HollowPoint> right, so when did it stop? Did you change something and restart the daemon?
[04:59] <yang_> It works out of the box but after I change any options at all in /etc/bind/named.conf.options
[04:59] <HollowPoint> ok what options are you changing?
[04:59] <yang_> then rndc complains it has a bad key. all i have done is uncomment forwarders
[05:00] <HollowPoint> have you added forwarders or just uncomment them?
[05:03] <HollowPoint> I've just installed a fresh bind9 on my system, changed out the 0.0.0.0 in forwarders for my dns server locally and restarted bind9 service with no issues, I am on Karmic as opposed to Jaunty but I doubt highly that'll make any difference to bind9 and it's configuration tbh
[05:08] <yang_> IDK ill purge it and try it again
[05:10] <yang_> failed again
[05:11] <yang_> what verision is bind9 in karmic?
[05:13] <HollowPoint> BIND 9.6.1-P1
[05:13] <HollowPoint> I know this is a stupid question but you are trying to restart it with sudo right?
[05:14] <HollowPoint> some apps tend to fail restarts with odd reasons even though it's actually a permissions error
[05:14] <yang_> sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart
[05:14] <yang_> ty for help btw
[05:15] <HollowPoint> no worries, so I can't help more, I've tried to reproduce the error on Karmic, but the last time I had this error was way back when in Hardy
[05:15] <HollowPoint> sorry I can't .... *
[05:15] <yang_> i think i got it. 2 forwaders are issue
[05:15] <yang_> one forwarder runs fine.
[05:15] <HollowPoint> yeah that would no doubt do it
[05:15] <yang_> maybe syntax
[05:16] <HollowPoint> or possibly need a second forwarders tag
[05:16] <yang_> yeah
[05:17] <HollowPoint> hmmmmmmmm, two tags, using identical syntax fails here
[05:18] <HollowPoint> aha
[05:18] <HollowPoint> 192.168.0.254; 192.168.0.1; works fine here
[05:18] <HollowPoint> on the same line, with a space after the first semi colon
[05:18] <yang_> hmm?
[05:18] <yang_> i did 2 lines.
[05:18] <yang_> ill try it
[05:18] <HollowPoint> yeah me too first time
[05:18] <HollowPoint> seems to require them on the same line with a simple spane and not a \n
[05:19] <yang_> its good
[05:19] <yang_> ty
[05:19] <HollowPoint> :D
[05:19] <HollowPoint> glad I could help
[05:19] <yang_> off to try a zone again!
[05:19] <yang_> thanks!
[05:19] <HollowPoint> gl
[05:19] <yang_> cya
[05:19] <HollowPoint> cya
[05:20] <manu_zacharia> Hi All
[05:20] <manu_zacharia> Hi All, I am trying to follow the following URL for making a live CD/DVD from harddisk installation
[05:21] <manu_zacharia> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872
[05:21] <manu_zacharia> However, at step E.1. (Build the CD/DVD), when I issue the following command:
[05:21] <manu_zacharia> sudo mkisofs -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -V "Custom Live CD" -cache-inodes -r -J -l -o ~/live-cd.iso $CD
[05:21] <manu_zacharia> I am getting the following error:
[05:21] <FloodBotK2> manu_zacharia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:21] <manu_zacharia> ok thanks - here it goes - http://pastebin.com/m634ad4c8
[05:31] <HollowPoint> manu_zacharia: did you use genisoimage -h like it says?
[05:32] <manu_zacharia> you mean help? HollowPoint ?
[05:32] <HollowPoint> yeah, should do the same thing with -h or -help
[05:33] <manu_zacharia> yes when i type genisoimage -h i am getting a Warning and also a Missing pathspec
[05:34] <manu_zacharia> i was just following the tutorial (first link)
[05:34] <manu_zacharia> and stuck up there at this point
[05:36] <HollowPoint> http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=21492
[05:37] <HollowPoint> read that to post 8, I think you'll find you've done the same thing he did
[05:37] <manu_zacharia> ok let me try
[05:38] <manu_zacharia> thanks for the response HollowPoint
[05:38] <HollowPoint> np
[05:52] <ussher> on jaunty.  I have a usb thumbdrive that flickers the light when inserted, then nothing.  cant access it.
[05:52] <ussher> any ideas why.
[05:52] <ussher> it reads fine on windows
[05:53] <nixternal> I have a few of those myself, even on Karmic..the reason why it happens though is beyond me...i was experiencing this a bit when messing with the usb-creator stuff with the iso files
[05:55] <ussher> cheers nixternal. makes life a little bit more trickey.
[05:55] <nixternal> hehe, right
[05:56] <nixternal> i do have one key that refuses to work on anything, but it will work on a windows machine at the library
[05:57] <ussher> i found one thread that said add usb_storage to /etc/modules so i did, and that made the light flicker on startup.  pretty, but not much help.
[05:59] <ussher> only at the library, on a tuesday eh. :)
[06:00] <Axmen6> Carrion (from the Latin caro, meaning meat) refers to the carcass of a dead animal. Carrion is an important food source for large carnivores and omnivores in most ecosystems. Examples of carrion-eaters, or scavengers, include Hyenas, Vultures, Canadian Opossum, Tasmanian Devils, Black Bears, Komodo Dragons, Bald Eagles, Raccoons, flying squirrels, and Blue-tongued lizards. Many invertebrates, such
[06:00] <Axmen6>  as worms, maggots and carrion beetles (family Silphidae), and Calliphorid flies also eat carrion and play an important role in recycling animal remains.
[06:00] <Axmen6> Carrion begins to decay the moment of the animal's death, and it will increasingly attract insects and breed bacteria. Not long after the animal has died, its body will begin to exude a foul odor caused by the presence of bacteria and the emission of cadaverine and putrescine.
[06:00] <Axmen6> Some plants and fungi smell like decomposing carrion and attract insects that aid in sex. Plants that exhibit this behavior are known as carrion flowers. Stinkhorn mushrooms are examples of fungi with this characteristic.
[06:00] <FloodBotK2> Axmen6: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <yang_> HollowPoint: hey i hate to bother you again. but you wanna help me with one last thing?
[06:06] <HollowPoint> sorry mate on phone 2 secs
[06:27] <andrew_> !unison
[06:30] <Guest8061> hey people im lookiing for a free xchange similar server with a client ....open xchange wold have been something I would have used had it not been for the limmeted amount of users (and the crazy price).unison has some interesting server side software however its eula is not by any means opensources...even if it uses opensource components. Does anyone have any sujestions ?
[06:32] <Sp0d> can anyone help me with a hopefully easy scripting problem?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d44b3aeb8
[06:32] <Sp0d> if i type the script line by line in the terminal it works, but the script acts like cd is not a command
[06:32] <drurew> then is it a syntax problem ?
[06:33] <Sp0d> unfortunately i don't know drurew, ive wrote similar scripts the same and they worked
[06:34] <drurew> are you talking about the first line ?
[06:35] <Sp0d> i thought the first like would bring the directory to the home level
[06:36] <drurew> Sp0d: just change cd ~ to the actual directory
[06:37] <drurew> or like cd ~/user/file/location
[06:38] <Sp0d> ahhh.... didn't know you could say it like that...
[06:39] <Sp0d> nice,
[06:39] <Sp0d> hey thanks drurew! that seems to be working better!
[06:39] <drurew> cool
[06:40] <Sp0d> thanks again, im out
[07:07] <vslobodov> Uh, I have a bit of an odd question. How is it that even though my router says I am connected via an ethernet cable to the internet (and router), my computer does not. As in, eth0 won't connect to anything, manual or automatic. The internet still works though.
[07:30] <shahul> hi
[07:43] <x61> hi
[08:33] <Thor44> hola.... saludos desde mexico ... alguien habla español???
[08:36] <Thor44> ok como todos hablan al mismo tiempo y no se les entiende nada me retiro.... saludos a todos los que me entiendan
[08:36] <Thor44> bye
[08:43] <louis> Brb
[08:44] <louis> But if anyone has a minute whats the best straitforward solution to:
[08:44] <louis> louis@louis-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install karchiver
[08:44] <louis> sudo: must be setuid root
[08:44] <louis> louis@louis-desktop:~$
[08:44] <FloodBotK2> louis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:44] <louis> okay
[08:45] <louis> I had gotten tired of constant pwd wntry so I typed sudo -s inconsole and forgot to type exit in console oh I goofed now I'm in here crying for help
[08:46] <louis> Has anyone found a working solution?
[09:06] <ct529> when using dpkg-reconfigure I would like to activate all the questions, including low priority .... unfortunately in my man debconf page there is nothing about the levels. Can anyone help here?
[09:08] <louis> Just in case you were all worried I found the solution: http://mihirknows.blogspot.com/2008/06/sudo-must-be-setuid-root-solved-in.html
[09:09] <ct529> louis: sorry, just come in .... the solution to what?
[09:21] <javier> Hi and thanks to everyone
[09:22] <ct529> when using dpkg-reconfigure I would like to activate all the questions, including low priority .... unfortunately in my man debconf page there is nothing about the levels. Can anyone help here?
[09:22] <javier> does someone knows what's the process npviewer.bin process? I noticed my laptop was getting very warm and heavy, I went to monitoring system and I found that application (whuch I haven't oppened) is taking 54% of my CPU!
[09:22] <javier> I'm running Kubuntu 9.04
[09:29] <ct529> javier: never heard, have you done some googling?
[09:29] <javier> nop
[09:30] <javier> just log on computer and it was there
[09:32] <jussi01> javier: its for flash
[09:33] <jussi01> !find npviewer.bin
[09:33] <jussi01> !info nspluginwrapper
[09:33] <jussi01> javier: so does that explain it?
[09:34] <javier> amm... yes, I guess. And I guess also I just kill it when I find this is happening?
[09:34] <jussi01> javier: no, if you want flash to run...
[09:35] <javier> It's weird that I find on google the same bug from 2005, and 4 years later I still suffer it :) Flash is horrible
[09:35] <jussi01> +1
[09:36] <javier> yes, yes. But now I wasnt running flash when I saw the process. That's what I mean, if it persist when I'm not with flash, I will have to close it manually, although maybe it doesnt happen again
[09:43] <ct529> when using dpkg-reconfigure I would like to activate all the questions, including low priority .... unfortunately in my man debconf page there is nothing about the levels. Can anyone help here?
[09:46] <ct529> what is indicator-apple? it looks like a process ....
[09:46] <ct529> oh ok .... it is indicator-applet ....
[09:46] <ct529> pstree is removing the t .... sorry for the silly question!
[09:52] <Aison> can I somehow boot kubuntu so that before starting a service, I get a question if the service should be started or not?
[09:52] <Aison> my ubuntu hangs on boot, but no idea why and on what service
[09:52] <Aison> the kernel itself starts and the initscript is started also
[10:06] <Aison> everytime I start kde4, I get a window with akonadi starting up and failing
[10:06] <Aison> how can I stop that?
[10:08] <kaddi> hi, what would be a good tool to monitor internet traffic?
[10:09] <lovre> hi all. how can i make inactive windows go transparent?
[10:09] <kaddi> lovre: what kde?
[10:10] <lovre> kaddi: 4.3
[10:10] <lovre> kaddi: 4.3.1
[10:10] <kaddi> systemsettings, select first entry at the top left, enabe desktop effects and look for transparency under all effects. in the settings you should be able to use them
[10:10] <kaddi> set them
[10:11] <ArkoldThos> no cool boot for kubuntu in karmic :(
[10:13] <lovre> kaddi: and what if im using Compiz, i suppose that works with Kwin only?
[10:13] <kaddi> sorry, i don't know then. maybe someone else nknows
[10:13] <lovre> kaddi: ok, thank you very much
[10:28] <Ursinha-sprint> hi people
[10:28] <UU0113> hi
[10:29] <Ursinha-sprint> I'm running kde 4.3.1 on jaunty and the icons are not showing in the system tray
[10:29] <Ursinha-sprint> not all of them, only the network manager, kmix and the wallet
[10:30] <Ursinha-sprint> I'm not sure if it's a general problem, or something here
[10:30] <Ursinha-sprint> but that wasn't happening with 4.2.x, iirc
[10:40] <bigjools> Ursinha-sprint: I had a thought, are they "hidden" ?
[10:40] <Ursinha-sprint> bigjools, nope, I thought of that, but I've disabled the hide icons thing
[10:40] <Ursinha-sprint> no success :/
[10:41] <samorayy> ola
[10:51] <noren> !fdisk
[10:51] <noren> !fstab
[10:52] <noren> hello every one how can i list the partition of my hard disk
[10:55] <lovre> when i install splash screen themes they dont appear in the list, so i cant select them. What is this about
[11:18] <y0uCeF> hi
[11:19] <y0uCeF> who have installed kde 4.3 on kubuntu 9.04
[11:19] <y0uCeF> ?????
[11:19] <Bou> i did
[11:19] <y0uCeF> from ppa?
[11:20] <y0uCeF> i'll tell what i did and the problem that i got
[11:20] <Bou> y0uCeF: from this: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[11:20] <y0uCeF> first i added the ppa
[11:20] <y0uCeF> and the key
[11:20] <y0uCeF> i did an update
[11:20] <y0uCeF> than
[11:21] <y0uCeF> apt-get upgrade kubuntu-desktop
[11:21] <Bou> i did an apt-get upgrade
[11:21] <Bou> without precising the package
[11:21] <Bou> maybe you are missing something because you only upgraded kubuntu-desktop?
[11:23] <y0uCeF> you know the problem?
[11:24] <y0uCeF> i have reinstalled kubuntu
[11:24] <y0uCeF> and did just an update without tha ppa and the same problem
[11:24] <y0uCeF> i think it's from a library
[11:28] <darkham> kubunto will have kde 4.3.2?
[11:29] <darkham> kubuntu 9.10 i mean
[11:30] <y0uCeF> Bou: i'll try upgrade and tell you
[11:31] <y0uCeF> but with my 128kb after a mounth hhhh
[11:31] <y0uCeF> whats mean it will be in officiel reposities
[11:32] <y0uCeF> and sorry for my bad english it is my third language
[11:34] <enes> witam
[11:38] <blaze`> is there a way to build amarok 2.2 on 9.04 without new taglib 1.6?
[11:42] <javier> Hi to everyone :)  I've problems with audio in my kubuntu 9.04. I have to use "PulseAudio" because HDA Nvidia (Conexant Analog) gives problems and does not work. Does someone knows how to repair it, please?
[11:44] <javier> I try to use HDA Nvidia (Conexant Analog) but it says it doesnt work and also that it will use  HDA Nvidia (Conexant Digital), but it doesnt sound, so I guess, although it detects that "digital" works fine, it may be something wrong with it as well
[11:45] <javier> Can someone help me fixing that?
[11:45] <enes> no
[11:45] <enes> all people have this problem
[11:46] <javier> amm, really?
[11:46] <javier> Pufff, it's a problem with some problems, for example with Skype, that I cannot make it work fine
[11:47] <javier> is it something with Xine?
[11:47] <ghostcube> javier: jackd would fix this
[11:47] <ghostcube> but still a bit tricky to handle
[11:48] <ghostcube> the card is noticed by alsa ?
[11:48] <ghostcube> or are the sound drivers not working too
[11:48] <ghostcube> completely
[11:49] <javier> well, I'm not sure if I can answer that
[11:49] <javier> but yes, it's noticed by alsa
[11:49] <NiNes> is kubuntu as well funded as ubuntu??
[11:50] <ghostcube> NiNes: ?
[11:50] <javier> alsa: x-phonon: card=0, Dev=0
[11:50] <NiNes> well funded probably the wrong word
[11:51] <ghostcube> javier: my system is using jackd for all sound in comb ination with alsa i dont know if this is working with youre card
[11:51] <NiNes> i've heard its not "looked after" bug etc... as ubuntu is but i really like kde
[11:51] <ghostcube> NiNes: QA is in both the same
[11:51] <ghostcube> -_-
[11:52] <javier> ghostcube: so, you don't know if that would work with me?
[11:52] <ghostcube> no its just an suggest to try
[11:52] <ghostcube> :)
[11:52] <ghostcube> i cant tell if it would work
[11:52] <javier> I would like to try, could you give me a link to how to do it or help?
[11:52] <NiNes> ghostcube, i'm new to linux and trying to figure out whats best for me.
[11:53] <ghostcube> javier: you need to use some files from debian packages and extract them manually into the needed foldersto get jackd to work in kubuntu
[11:54] <enes> lol
[11:55] <javier> ay.. it looks a bit complicated, I'm not sure if I could do something like that. I've never done anything similar :S
[11:55] <ghostcube> its easy if you can wait i can tell you later when iam home
[11:55] <ghostcube> :)
[11:55] <enes> my system see VIA HD Sound but... "not work"
[11:55] <ghostcube> deb packages are nothing else than zip packages
[11:55] <ghostcube> javier: so its easy to take an library out to put it into system
[11:55] <ghostcube> :)
[11:55] <ghostcube> no need to compile or so
[11:56] <ghostcube> or you just grab the xine-lib packages from debian sid and install it
[11:56] <javier> mhm. So, could you asses me a bit in the process? I guess, for starting, I would have to find those debian packages. Which are their names?
[11:56] <javier> ok
[11:56] <javier> xine-lib packages
[11:57] <ghostcube> libxine
[11:57] <ghostcube> wait
[12:00] <atlefren> i'm having trouble with dual monitors on 9.04, on a HP laptop using a Radeon HD 3650. and an external monitor that supports 1920x1200 (the laptop monitor supports 1680x1050, tried setting both monitors to 1680x1050, screen clone works fine, but using xrander to set DVI-0 right-of LVDS gives an error (xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1920x1600 (desired size 3360x1050), and yes, i've added a Virtual entry to xorg.conf (Virtua
[12:00] <atlefren> any suggestions?
[12:02] <happyhessian_> hello
[12:03] <guitar431> o/
[12:03] <happyhessian_> i'm running 9.10 beta and am trying to get a usb audio card to work--i'm quite confused about what the "system settings" window does
[12:04] <happyhessian_> i have gone to System Settings -> Multimedia and made USB Audio preferred for everything but it still doesn't work--including the "Test" button
[12:04] <ghostcube> javier: what version 32 or 64 bit
[12:04] <javier> 64
[12:05] <ghostcube> http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xine-lib/libxine1-misc-plugins_1.1.16.3-1+b3_amd64.deb
[12:05] <happyhessian_> the only way i can get any sound out of it is by forcing alsa to use hw 1 with a script in /etc/asound.conf
[12:05] <ghostcube> javier: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/verison_number/xineplug_ao_out_jack.so
[12:06] <ghostcube> javier: inside the deb is the file i showed you copy it to the folder youre xine plugins are located
[12:07] <happyhessian_> so i'm confused about what the best way is to use usb-audio on kubuntu--it seems that system settings -> multimedia is meant to do just that but it doesn't work at all--what does it even do?
[12:12] <javier> ghostcube: ok, I'm improving. Let me tell you where I am. I went to the folder you said: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26.   I dont find there xineplug_ao_out_jack.so
[12:12] <ghostcube> lol
[12:12] <ghostcube> no you have a plugin folder in /usr/lib/xine
[12:12] <ghostcube> and it has a version number
[12:12] <ghostcube> just copy the file from the deb file to this location
[12:12] <ghostcube> :)
[12:12] <javier> I downloaded the deb file. If I press on it, it tells to install and gives an error. I extracted it
[12:13] <ghostcube> yeah and inside there is jack outpout libaryr
[12:13] <javier> yes, inside /usr/lib/xine I have plugin folder: and inside plugins I have folder 1.26 that is my version, I think
[12:14] <javier> but inside, I dont read "jack" anywhere
[12:16] <javier> I have five plugin files:xineplug_ao_out_alsa.so; xineplug_ao_out_file.so; xineplug_ao_out_none.so; xineplug_ao_out_oss.so; xineplug_ao_out_pulseaudio.so
[12:18] <ghostcube> hmmm
[12:18] <javier> maybe you mean that after installing deb file I will have that?
[12:19] <javier> if I try to install deb file it reports an error and it closes
[12:19] <ghostcube> javier: i see it
[12:19] <ghostcube> ok i give you the file
[12:20] <javier> well, in the folder we are talking about, I have more xineplug files, but not _ao_out_*, but different, and any related to jack
[12:20] <ghostcube> no
[12:20] <ghostcube> we talking of different folders
[12:21] <ghostcube> if you extract the deb file it will contain the jackd file
[12:21] <ghostcube> you should copy it to youre local folder
[12:21] <ghostcube> so we definetly talk about two different folders
[12:21] <ghostcube> http://www.speedyshare.com/412999885.html
[12:21] <javier> ammm
[12:21] <ghostcube> get the file here and copy it over to
[12:22] <javier> but if I extract the deb file you sent me, It contains "control.tar.gz", "data.tar.bz.2" and "debian-binary". I dont know which one I'm supposed to copy to the folder /usr/lib/xine/plugins/verison_number/
[12:23] <ghostcube> in the data tar logically is the data tar hehe
[12:23] <ghostcube> inside this is the folder you need
[12:23] <ghostcube> but just get the file i postet
[12:23] <ghostcube> its the same
[12:24] <happyhessian> ok, had to install a new irc client there...i asked earlier about system settings-> multimedia
[12:25] <javier> ok :)  I got the file. I downloaded it and I have it in my desktop. I'll copy it to /usr/lib/xine/plugins/verison_number/
[12:25] <javier> right?
[12:25] <javier> :)
[12:25] <happyhessian> trying to get a usb-audio device to work, phonon (or whatever one would call this part of the system) identifies the usb-audio device and i can set it as my preferred device--but it doesn't work
[12:26] <happyhessian> the only way i can make it work is with an asound.conf script
[12:27] <javier> ok, so now, it doesnt let me copy it. I think because I'm not working as root, isn't it? how could I copy it from terminal? (sorry for so much work, I'm very thankfull)
[12:27] <ghostcube> sudo cp
[12:29] <javier> sudo cp doesnt work, "missing one argument for that"
[12:31] <javier> ok, I see. I have to write what to move from where to where. something like    sudo cp xineplug_ao_out_jack.so /javier/Escritorio usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26???
[12:34] <javier> sudo cp xineplug ao out jack.so /javier/Escritorio /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26
[12:35] <javier> I wrote that, but with xineplug_ao_out_jack.so, but doesnt work, I'm writting something wrong in the order I think
[12:38] <ghostcube> oha
[12:38] <javier> it says "cannot make stat over xineplug_ao_out_jack.so
[12:38] <ghostcube> is the file direkt inside home folder
[12:38] <ghostcube> ?
[12:38] <javier> I'm very bad with konsole yet, begginers...
[12:38] <javier> I mean, I don't know how to move the file with sudo cp
[12:39] <ghostcube> sudo cp filename  /usr/lib/.....
[12:39] <ghostcube> you never used windows doshell eh ?
[12:39] <ghostcube> :)
[12:42] <shilpa> ghg
[12:43] <javier> sudo cp xineplug_ao_out_jack.so  /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26/    shouldn't this work??? It answers "couldnt make 'stat' over <<xineplug_ao_out_jack.so>>: the file or the folder don't exist
[12:46] <happyhessian> i guess i'll try again some other time...
[12:47] <dickfeynman> I have debian installed on a certain partition. Can i safely install Kubuntu on top of it by just formatting the partition and going through with the Kubuntu installation procedure ?
[12:48] <dartagnan_> you will erase debian
[12:48] <dickfeynman> note: I also run ubuntu hardy(which i use now) which i would like to keep
[12:48] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: thats should be okay so long as thats all it does :P
[12:48] <dartagnan_> you have to create a third partition
[12:49] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: what for do i need a third partition ?
[12:49] <Bornabe> Gooood morning.
[12:49] <dartagnan_> you wan to keep debian or replace it by kubuntu?
[12:49] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: i want to replace debian
[12:49] <Bornabe> Kubuntu for teh win baby!  I'm absolutely lovin' v9.10!!!
[12:49] <dartagnan_> k
[12:49] <javier> ghostcube: could you tell me what to write? file name: xineplug_ao_out_jack.so   the file is in /home/javier/Escritorio     the folder where I'm trying to move it is: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26
[12:50] <dickfeynman> Bornabe: dartagnan_ : I wanna replace debian with kubuntu karmic
[12:50] <Bornabe> Had to remove all the eMail, Contacts, etc... and switched to FireFox / Thunderbird, but other than that, it's awesome.
[12:50] <Bornabe> Karmic is an excellent release as well.
[12:50] <dartagnan_> you have to erase deian partion first I think
[12:50] <dartagnan_> after you install kubuntu
[12:50] <xocolate> could somebody help me with Firefox and Iceweasel (they are not running)
[12:50] <Bornabe> I did a full backup of what I had and went for an all-out Kubuntu only install this time.
[12:51] <dartagnan_> you do it in two steps or your installing kubuntu manually at first time
[12:51] <Bornabe> Be back in a few, going to tighten up a few loosends and then come back to see if I can help.
[12:51] <dartagnan_> Bornabe: its easy
[12:52] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: so you're saying i first format my debian drive & then install Kubuntu on it ?
[12:52] <dartagnan_> I love quassel btw
[12:53] <dartagnan_> you reformat ur debian partition
[12:53] <dartagnan_> you can do it by many ways
[12:54] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: about the idea of reformatting my deb partition : 1. will it remove debian completely with no leftovers? 2. will it not affect *anything else* ?
[12:54] <dartagnan_> use gparted
[12:54] <dickfeynman> if so, then i'm fine with it
[12:54] <dartagnan_> or you can simply choose install kubuntu manually and tell it to install on the debian partition
[12:55] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: this seems an easier option.
[12:55] <dartagnan_> kubuntu for the win?
[12:55] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: Kubuntu yes.. only a matter of how :-)
[12:55] <dartagnan_> is it so much better than ubuntu?
[12:56] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: thats what i want to find out ;)
[12:56] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: basically, i've just started hacking kstars.. so contemplating the shift
[12:56] <dartagnan_> no, it wont affect anything else, but u have to be careful
[12:57] <dartagnan_> lol
[12:57] <javier> ghostcube: please, solve me how to do this, we are very close :)
[12:57] <dartagnan_> you are a mystical debian user
[12:57] <dartagnan_> kubuntu
[12:58] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: i once gave KDE a try(when i was a noob) but seems i got some buggy version or something
[12:58] <dartagnan_> I feel like missing the point
[12:59] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: got very pained with what i saw and swore i'd almost never use KDE :P
[12:59] <ghostcube> sudo cp /home/javier/Escritorio/xineplug_ao_out_jack.so /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26/
[12:59] <dartagnan_> anyway Im for kubuntu for sure
[12:59] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: but i'm interested in astronomy and kstars has attracted me... and a lot of my friends develop for KDE. so me willing to give it another try
[12:59] <dartagnan_> maybe I should give it a try too
[13:00] <javier> ok, uff, finally I did it. And now? how is it supposed to work?
[13:00] <xocolate> could somebody help me with Firefox and Iceweasel (they are not running)
[13:00] <ghostcube> javier: best is reboot
[13:01] <ghostcube> oh wait you need a thing before
[13:05] <ghostcube> you need the asound.conf file
[13:05] <ghostcube> and jackd
[13:05] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get instal qjackctl
[13:05] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install qjackctl
[13:05] <dartagnan_> lol
[13:06] <ghostcube> hh
[13:06] <ghostcube> :)
[13:07] <javier> after that reboot?
[13:07] <Mamarok> javier: only log out of KDE and log in again, reboot is for Windows :)
[13:08] <dartagnan_> blue
[13:08] <javier> ok. for doing that... i log out sesion and then restart Xorg?
[13:08] <Mamarok> javier: no, just log out and in again, and if you just install a new application it's not even necessary
[13:12] <dickfeynman> dartagnan_: thanks for your help.
[13:12] <javier> ghostcube: ok, I'm here back again
[13:12] <ghostcube> yeah
[13:13] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install qjackctl
[13:13] <javier> so now, I guess I go to preferences and I put jack on top of the list in audioconfiguration?
[13:13] <javier> ah! I already installed that
[13:13] <ghostcube> you havent installed jackd i think so
[13:13] <ghostcube> oh ok
[13:13] <ghostcube> :)
[13:13] <ghostcube> then yes jackd should be available in sound settings
[13:13] <ghostcube> you need to start it
[13:13] <ghostcube> by opening qjakctl
[13:14] <javier> ok, I opened it
[13:14] <ghostcube> start jackd if not done
[13:14] <ghostcube> :)
[13:14] <dartagnan_> done
[13:14] <javier> i start jack audio connection kit
[13:15] <ghostcube> yes and there is start and stop button
[13:15] <javier> *started
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:15] <javier> right
[13:15] <ghostcube> so if you can click start jackd not running
[13:15] <ghostcube> :D
[13:15] <dartagnan_> fine u
[13:16] <javier> mmm, i can press start and after 1 second it stops and report an error
[13:16] <ghostcube> ok whats the error
[13:16] <ghostcube> pls post it to www.pastie.org
[13:16] <ghostcube> if its possible
[13:16] <javier> global operation failed, it cannot connect the server
[13:16] <ghostcube> hmmm
[13:17] <ghostcube> puh hard to get this done by not in front support
[13:17] <ghostcube> :D
[13:17] <javier> mmm, do you want me to copy the text of mistake in that adress?
[13:18] <javier> http://www.pastie.org/642191
[13:18] <javier> ah, somethings are in spanish, sorry
[13:31] <noaXess> !recover
[13:41] <emyller> hello
[13:41] <emyller> ...and i'm again having probs with real media
[13:41] <emyller> i just made a clean kubuntu installation, installed w32codecs but .rm files have no video. audio is fine.
[13:54] <Weasel[DK]> emyller,  try to install kubuntu-restricted-extras if have not got already
[13:54] <emyller> Weasel[DK]: already did :(
[13:55] <rafytafy> Anyone here *ubuntuzilla* to upgrade to firefox 3.5 on 8.04?
[13:56] <kankan_> how to install themes?
[13:56] <Weasel[DK]> emyller, well only trying other players comes to mind... than
[13:57] <emyller> Weasel[DK]: weird... kubuntu-restricted-extras has much less stuff than ubuntu-restriced-extras
[13:58] <emyller> doesnt it cause any codec to be missing?
[13:59] <Weasel[DK]> emyller, only using ubuntu on servers so i would't know. but you are right... it's wierd
[14:00] <emyller> :\
[14:00] <emyller> i'll blog as soon as i get it
[14:00] <kankan_> how to customize desktop ?
[14:00] <emyller> gonna post the link later
[14:00] <kankan_> install themes and make it attractive?
[14:00] <emyller> kankan_: right click desktop, Desktop Settings
[14:01] <emyller> to change internal colors, windows and other stuff, go to system settings > appearance
[14:01] <kankan_> whenever i dosome changes..my os getting hanged...why??
[14:01] <kankan_> what to do then??
[14:02] <kankan_> because after restarting its not logging in anymore
[14:02] <emyller> kankan_: in each of these areas you'll find a "Get new ..." button
[14:02] <emyller> no idea
[14:02] <emyller> maybe your installation wasnt successful
[14:02] <emyller> brb
[14:03] <kankan_> how to install themes??
[14:04] <rafytafy> just updated my firefox 3.0 to 3.5 on hardy with success :)
[14:05] <rafytafy> too bad a lot of the addons from 3.0 arent compatible yet, but adblock and noscript are...the most important ones
[14:06] <Weasel[DK]> rafytafy, where did you find the package ?
[14:08] <rafytafy> right here  http://maketecheasier.com/easily-upgrade-your-firefox-to-35-in-ubuntu/2009/08/12
[14:08] <rafytafy> has instructions too
[14:09] <rafytafy> chances are  , you will have to change your theme too
[14:11] <Weasel[DK]> rafytafy, nice stuff... thx
[14:11] <rafytafy> no prob :)
[14:16] <Vinleg> hey i have a problem, it's not actually a problem, but everytime i turn my laptop off, it said it unables to halt, there is no such directory
[14:16] <Vinleg> i dont remember the exact sentence, it doesnt effect much, but i just want to be corrected
[14:45] <lokpest> how do I remove a line from about:config i thunderbird?
[14:46] <lokpest> and why the fuck cant thunderbird open links by clinking on them by default?!?
[14:46] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, mine always did
[14:46] <lokpest> mine never did
[14:46] <lokpest> and...
[14:46] <lokpest> how do I remove a line from about:config i thunderbird?
[14:47] <lokpest> fuckfuckfuckfuck hate this fucking hacker shit
[14:47] <rafytafy> can you locate the about:config file?
[14:48] <rafytafy> if you can, then usually a *sudo gedit /path/to/file works
[14:48] <Riddell> !language
[14:49] <georgey> families don't go to irc chats
[14:49] <rafytafy> they go to bzflag instead lol
[14:51] <lokpest> no help?
[14:51] <Ursinha-sprint> !patience | lokpest
[14:51] <ghostcube> lokpest: maybe ask in mozilla net thunderbird
[14:51] <ghostcube> this is no tb support :)
[14:52] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, you're lucky to be still here, with that amount of cursing
[14:52] <rafytafy> hmmm i dont see any speed increase from ff 3.0 to 3.5 :(
[14:52] <Ursinha-sprint> rafytafy, really?
[14:52] <rafytafy> sadly yes
[14:52] <Ursinha-sprint> rafytafy, I guess with time 3.0 gets slower
[14:52] <EagleScreen> hello
[14:52] <rafytafy> i have mines set not to remember history and to clear everything each time i close it
[14:52] <lokpest> ghostcube: what is that? an irc-channel? an network?
[14:52] <rafytafy> so it does not get clogged up over time
[14:53] <rafytafy> they are both lightning fast, but i wouldnt say one is faster then the other
[14:53] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, an irc channel
[14:53] <ghostcube> lokpest: moznet is mozilla irc network
[14:53] <lokpest> Ursinha-sprint: why wasnt those written with hastags then?
[14:53]  * rafytafy searches for the about:config file...i wonder if its a txt file
[14:53] <lokpest> ghostcube: and the adress is...?
[14:53] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, what are you talking about?
[14:53] <lokpest> hashtags*
[14:54] <rafytafy> hashtag? sounds like a new mcdonalds treat
[14:54] <lokpest> Ursinha-sprint: if they are channels they should be written #mozilla #net #thunderbird
[14:54] <rafytafy> speaking of mcdonalds, brb need to eat some eggs and bacon
[14:54] <Ursinha-sprint> oic
[14:54] <Ursinha-sprint> the problem
[14:55] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, maybe #mozilla?
[14:55] <lokpest> Ursinha-sprint: I think you meant #mozilla
[14:56] <Ursinha-sprint> and what did I write? :)
[14:56] <lokpest> #mozilla? with an questinonmark
[14:56] <ghostcube> i think we talk not about the same
[14:56] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, lol
[14:56] <ghostcube> connect to irc moznet it should be listed in youre network ist
[14:56] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, that's because it was a question
[14:56] <lokpest> opens another channel when klicking on it in Konversation
[14:56] <ghostcube> and there use an related channel
[14:56] <lokpest> and #mozilla is invite-only
[14:57] <ghostcube> lokpest: ever used irc before ?
[14:57] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, but yes, that's what I meant
[14:57] <lokpest> ghostcube: many years
[14:57] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, you should try what ghostcube is saying
[14:57] <ghostcube> ok so you know how to connect to another network ?
[14:57] <ghostcube> open network list use moznet and connect to it
[14:57] <ghostcube> search for the thunderbird help channel
[14:58] <lokpest> dont know what network list is...
[14:58] <ghostcube> i dont know konversation
[14:58] <lokpest> I allways use the network server adress to conect
[14:58] <ghostcube> anyone using it here to help him ?
[14:58] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, network list == /list
[14:58] <Ursinha-sprint> ghostcube, he
[14:58] <lokpest> ghostcube: the kubuntu irc-client
[14:58] <ghostcube> i use quassel
[14:58] <Ursinha-sprint> ghostcube, he just clicked in what I wrote, but that's ok
[14:58] <lokpest> ghostcube: quassel sucks
[14:59] <ghostcube> -_-
[14:59] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, no, it doesn't
[14:59] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, you should try to connect to mozdev irc network
[14:59] <lokpest> yes, Konversation will be back as standard in kubuntu 9.10 or so :-)
[15:00] <lokpest> Ursinha-sprint: and what adress does that network have?
[15:00] <Ursinha-sprint> lokpest, no idea
[15:00] <Ursinha-sprint> maybe google knows..
[15:00] <lokpest> Yes retard, mabye it does!
[15:02] <Ursinha-sprint> I don't believe he's not banned yet
[15:03] <genii> Ursinha-sprint: Probably not too far off he keeps being abusive like that
[15:05] <rafytafy> genii: i smell a troll
[15:05] <rafytafy> back with eggs and bacon btw :)
[15:06]  * genii sips
[15:07] <rafytafy> :O better not be a milkshake!
[15:07] <genii> rafytafy: Coffee, military grade stuff...
[15:07] <rafytafy> are you in the service?
[15:08] <genii> rafytafy: No, I just buy my coffee there...
[15:08] <rafytafy> cheaper @ the base...very true
[15:08] <Ursinha-sprint> haha
[15:08] <Ursinha-sprint> :)
[15:09] <boban> Is kde 4.3.2 going to be included in 9.10 final release?
[15:09] <boban> or 4.3.3 maybe?
[15:10] <genii> boban: Perhaps ask them in #ubuntu+1 (which is also #kubuntu+1)
[15:10] <rafytafy> looks like i have to compile a kernel to get lm-sensors to work :( sad sad day
[15:10] <Mamarok> boban: 4.3.3 is higly unlikely, s 4.3.2 only has been tagged last week
[15:11] <boban> yes,  tommorow is scheduled 4.3.2 for release
[15:11] <Mamarok> and there was no freeze exception for it AFAICS
[15:11] <boban> so some time later 4.3.3 should be available via update?
[15:12] <Mamarok> boban: not unlikely, but 4.3.2 is not even released yet, why do you ask about 4.3.3?
[15:12] <boban> because i like kde more
[15:12] <Mamarok> boban: because 4.3.2 is not KDE? *sigh*
[15:13] <boban> and im thinking that is going to be even better with newer releases
[15:13] <boban> no because kwin is still slugish on x3100
[15:13] <Mamarok> boban: anyway, please address Karmic question in #ubuntu+1
[15:13] <boban> i use xorg-edgers
[15:13] <boban> ok
[15:13] <boban> ok
[15:13] <FloodBotK2> boban: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:13] <boban> thnx
[15:15] <rafytafy> i purchased a new wallet with a imprint of a penguin on it heh
[15:16] <lokpest> whats the EOL-date for Kubutu Hardy?
[15:19] <lokpest> ello?
[15:20] <Ursinha-sprint> !eol
[15:20] <rafytafy> April 2011 (Desktop)
[15:20] <rafytafy> April 2013 (Server)
[15:20] <ubsafder> hello how do i install a driver for geforce 6200LE ?
[15:21] <ubsafder> it's an nvidia card
[15:21] <rafytafy> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[15:21] <rafytafy> then sudo nvidia-xconfig
[15:21] <rafytafy> then reboot
[15:22] <rafytafy> it will most likely want to install additional packages, you should agree
[15:22] <rafytafy> if your card is of the older variety, then you may have to replace -glx-new with -glx-legacy
[15:23] <lokpest> rafytafy: that is for ubuntu, kubuntu hardy isnt LTS
[15:23] <rafytafy> yeah but kubuntu hardy uses the same kernel
[15:25] <lokpest> rafytafy: so you mean its just the KDE-packages that will be EOL?
[15:26] <lokpest> at some date?
[15:26] <rafytafy> i would assume so
[15:26] <Mamarok> lokpest: the KDE 3.5.x part's EOL is 11.2009 IIRC
[15:26] <lokpest> ok...
[15:26] <Mamarok> after the Karmic release
[15:26] <lokpest> any referenses would be nice
[15:26] <rafytafy> i am waiting on the next lts 10.4 to update my kubuntu hardy
[15:27] <ubsafder> ok it is working nice
[15:27] <Mamarok> lokpest: well, that was on the kubuntu.org website since ages, after Hardy came out
[15:27] <rafytafy> i will install new kernel though because i want to check out the k10 stuff
[15:27] <ubsafder> i used the latest driver it went ok
[15:27] <rafytafy> ok good ubsafder
[15:27] <Mamarok> rafytafy: just be aware that you will get no security updates for KDE anymore
[15:27] <lokpest> Mamarok: ok, i will ask the great oracle know as Google :)
[15:27] <rafytafy> Mamarok: i am well aware :P
[15:28] <bigjools> Mamarok: you told me once that not being able to log out, shutdown etc was a known issue, do you know of a solution?
[15:28] <rafytafy> i wonder if there will be a painless way to update from 8.04 directly to 10.4...
[15:28] <lokpest> probably not
[15:28] <Mamarok> bigjools: it works well in Jaunty, make sure you have the latest updates
[15:29] <rafytafy> bigjools: if it wont shutdown you can always ctrl +alt+f1 then -> sudo -s -H && shutdown -h now
[15:29] <bigjools> it started happening when I used the 4.3 updates in Jaunty, and it's still a problem in karmic
[15:29] <Mamarok> rafytafy: no
[15:29] <rafytafy> ive done it :(
[15:29] <Mamarok> it's not about not being able to log out, it's kdm not restarting
[15:29] <rafytafy> OHH
[15:29] <rafytafy> read it wrong, sorry
[15:29] <Mamarok> bigjools: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Karmic, please
[15:30] <bigjools> sure thing, thanks
[15:30] <bigjools> so it was a kwin problem?
[15:30] <rafytafy> can always try an old workout such as going to init3 then back to init5
[15:30] <Mamarok> rafytafy: also, Ctrl+Alt+F1 is *not* recommended, as it doesn't shut down the applications cleanly, Alt+SysRq+K is better
[15:30] <rafytafy> yeah true :(
[15:30] <genii> rafytafy: In Debian and Ubuntu runlevels 2,3,4 and 5 are not different
[15:31] <rafytafy> genii back when i had to install nvidia manually, i would restart x by going to init3 then back to init5
[15:31] <rafytafy> this was in errr...dapper i believe
[15:31] <Mamarok> rafytafy: well, you should update your knowledge then ;)
[15:32] <rafytafy> yeah i know about /etc/init.d/kde start/stop
[15:32] <lokpest> Hardy Heron should have been Hairy Hardon btw
[15:32] <lokpest> :D
[15:32] <Mamarok> lokpest: please, stay on topic
[15:32] <genii> lokpest: You've been warned already about crudity and swearing, please don't continue with it
[15:33] <rafytafy> it would seem that during the years i tried methods that had odd results
[15:33] <edward__> hi
[15:33] <edward__> hi
[15:33] <rafytafy> hello
[15:34] <Scherenhaenden> hi
[15:38] <darkham> what about  kde 4.3.2?
[15:40] <rafytafy> alrighty lets give 2.6.31 a go
[15:49] <xocolate> help please!!! how to solve this: /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.14/firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_dgettext
[16:07] <genii> xocolate: Not sure, but there looks to be a Debian bug reported of this error (for not just Firefox but a lot of apps failing with the libgtk-x11-2.so.0 part http://tinyurl.com/ycz9zh5   From the text there looks like maybe Cairo related
[16:08] <nelson_> hie
[16:08] <rafytafy> question - installed lm-sensors from source, got this after running detect *Chip `Fintek F71889FG Super IO Sensors' (confidence: 9)* went to edit the sensors3.conf file..and it states *chip f71805f*, should i replace with what detect found?
[16:09] <nelson_> anyone yet tried kubuntu 9.10
[16:10] <gorgonzola> i'm using it right now
[16:10] <genii> nelson_: Please direct questions about 9.10/Karmic to channel #ubuntu+1
[16:11] <rafytafy> also since i am using phenom2, should i add *label temp3 and labeltemp4?
[16:12] <rafytafy> bah let me restart and see if my config works
[16:16] <rafytafy> bah no driver
[16:18] <morgan> Hi all! I use ctrl+shift+R to shut panes in konqueror,  but it is now mapped to some other function. How do I find out where to change this back to my liking. Kubuntu 9.04
[16:52] <rafytafy> back
[17:02] <N3O> i wanna install kubuntu 9.04 on ubuntu 9.04 using a kubuntu CD . Is that possible ?
[17:02] <rafytafy> N30: you can install one or the other, then just install the other display manager and pick kde or gnome at start up
[17:02] <rafytafy> can install others too if you wish, like xfce, fluxbox etc etc
[17:03] <rafytafy> you first install the kubuntu cd, then with your terminal you can *sudo apt-get install ubuntu-session ....unless its called something else now
[17:04] <N3O> rafytafy , now i have ubuntu(gnome). How can i install KDE from kubuntu CD ?
[17:04] <morgan> What's a good desktop on small screens, like Acer Aspire One?
[17:04] <rafytafy> N30: Do you have internet connection
[17:04] <N3O> Ya.
[17:04] <N3O> But i wanna install from CD .
[17:04] <morgan> N3O: Add the CD to the repositories to save on downloads.
[17:04] <Mamarok> N3O: if you have a good internet connection, you can just install the kubuntu-desktop package
[17:05] <rafytafy> i dont think gnome session is included on the kubuntu cd..perhaps someone else can tell you
[17:05] <rafytafy> kubuntu-desktop....not session..ahh..been a while
[17:06] <Mamarok> N3O: else you can add the CD to your sources.list, then get the KDE package from there
[17:06] <N3O> morgan , i already done that using 'synaptic package manager' .  But when i'm trying this "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" its gives me an error
[17:06] <rafytafy> Mamarok: wasnt there a method for installing *pure kde*
[17:07] <morgan> N30: Did you run 'aptitude update'?
[17:07] <Mamarok> rafytafy: e didn't say he wanted to remove Gnome
[17:07] <Mamarok> he*
[17:07] <N3O> Mamarok,  i already done that using 'synaptic package manager' .  But when i'm trying this "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" its gives me an error
[17:07] <rafytafy> what sort of error
[17:07] <N3O> morgan , already done...!! but still have the error..!
[17:08] <N3O> i think i can't add the cd as reposetory
[17:08] <rafytafy> is your synaptic manager open while you are using terminal to apt-get install?
[17:08] <Mamarok> N3O: that's waht I told you :)
[17:08] <odysseas> so if I just "sudo aptitude install kde" from ubuntu, what will I be missing?
[17:08] <Mamarok> you can do this thrpough Synaptic too, just edit the sources when the CD is in the drive
[17:08] <Mamarok> odysseas: a lot, start with kubuntu-desktop
[17:09] <N3O> Mamarok , so what i ahve to do ?
[17:09] <rafytafy> Mamarok: is it possible to add a directory..like /home/raf/somedirectory, as a repo source? would i have to add a txt file listing the packages?
[17:09] <N3O> Ya i wanna ask the same question
[17:09] <Mamarok> N3O: §I don't remember exactly the way synaptic works, but put the CD in the drive, start Synaptic and then go to the menu where you can edit the repositories
[17:09] <Mamarok> rafytafy: of course
[17:10] <rafytafy> oh thats some good news
[17:10] <Mamarok> there are various options wether to add a CD source, a local source or a remote source
[17:10] <rafytafy> reason I ask is I like to get some stuff from getdeb...and was thinking of just putting them into a directory
[17:10] <N3O> Mamarok , i already do that. but it can't work.  i think kubuntu CD can't be used as repo
[17:11] <Mamarok> N3O: of course it can, but you need to add it as a CD, not as a repo source, there is an option to add a CD
[17:12] <N3O> Mamarok , OK then how can i select the source as local source /
[17:12] <Mamarok> N3O: I don't use Synaptic, but if you look at the options for the sources, you should be able to find it
[17:13] <rafytafy> has anyone here used the new amarok?
[17:14] <morgan> N3O: deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release i386 (20090420.1)]/ jaunty main restricted
[17:14] <morgan> N3O: That's a sample cd-rom line from my /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:15] <morgan> N3O: So I guess yours should look something similar.
[17:16] <Mamarok> rafytafy: I use it daily
[17:16] <rafytafy> any difference between 1.4 and 2.2
[17:16] <pulaski> Hello, I've asked this question in the ##kernel channel but have yet to receive a response. My kubuntu has the kernel 2.6.28-11, Does anyone know how often the kernel is updated?
[17:16] <Mamarok> a lot, Amarok 2 is a complete rewrite with another codebase
[17:17] <rafytafy> oh wow
[17:17] <rafytafy> any new integrations?
[17:17] <Mamarok> pulaski: in Jaunty only for security updates
[17:17] <Mamarok> rafytafy: I can't tell, I haven't used 1.4 in ages, using 2.x since the developement started
[17:17] <rafytafy> i did a gconfig on 2.6.31.1 today and didnt see any mk10 support:(
[17:18] <rafytafy> man i cant wait for 10.4 lts :(!
[17:18] <Mamarok> rafytafy: what are you talking about?
[17:18] <rafytafy> Mamarok: support for k10
[17:18] <rafytafy> like k8
[17:18]  * Mamarok doesn't know what k10 is
[17:19] <rafytafy> the new am3 motherboards
[17:19] <Mamarok> ah...
[17:19] <rafytafy> for phenom2
[17:19] <rafytafy> there is a growing number of people pissed off, bcse we dont yet have lm-sensors support
[17:19] <rafytafy> and some other functions
[17:26] <GRiD> hi i'd like to try the latest kdevelop4, does anyone know if that means i need to upgrade to the 9.10 beta?
[17:27] <pulaski> Mamarok: Thanks for responding.  I'm waiting on a driver that is currently in development.  Do you know how I can get a kernel update - other than security updates - that might have this new driver for the Creative's X-Fi sound card?
[17:36] <Mamarok> pulaski: sorry, was afk. No, you will either have to compile a newer krnel to get this feature or upgrade to Karmic once it is released
[17:36] <Mamarok> kernel* even
[17:42] <black> :D
[17:42] <black> heyy anyone around? I have a little problem could use some insight
[17:43] <black> I have feisty and apparently it didnt come with adept, so i just installed it, and im trying to install JRE.. so when I attempt to instatll the packages in adept and apply changes it crashes
[17:45] <morgan> black: Try using apt-get or aptitude from the command line. It branches to a licence page or something. Run from a console and post any relevant output.
[17:45] <mostafa_> how can I add lines into the file? but specific lines
[17:48] <black> morgan: gracias.. however im still somewhat of a linux noob so what do you mean :D what should i do :x
[17:50] <Mamarok> black: Feisty? that is pretty much outdated, no? EOL was reached a year ago
[17:50] <Mamarok> I stringly suggest you upgrade to a supported version
[17:50] <Mamarok> strongly, even :)
[17:51] <black> ya I agree, right now my main pc is royaly fkd up so this is my backup.. but im enjoying messing with kde and linux
[17:51] <black> so I dont wanna fk it up and have no computer
[17:52] <black> even if it is just updating, im scared
[17:52] <black> theres no way to upgrade through terminal is there or any other way besides burning a live cd
[17:54] <Mamarok> black: I don't think you can upgrade Feisty, unless you get the CDs of the various next releases till Hardy, the best is to backup your home folder and do a fresh install, but since it still works, wait for Karmic to be released :)
[18:01] <N3O> morgan , ^^
[18:02] <N3O> morgan , r u there ?
[18:04] <black> Mamarok: sounds good, when is Karmic being released?
[18:05] <Mamarok> black: release is scheduled for October 29th
[18:11] <xguru> what is the launch pad ppa?
[18:11] <xguru> i have the ones for gnome, etc, but arent they different for kde?
[18:18] <black> this adept crashing thing is killing me, any suggestions on what i should do? morgan mentioned apt-get or apitude but im still a noob
[18:25] <jamesjedimaster> black: i think adept is not supported on feisty. what are you trying to install?
[18:25] <black> heh that could be an issue.. trying to install JRE, trying to install those several java packages.. bin,fonts,plugin, etc..
[18:26] <jamesjedimaster> ok, so in Konsole you can use: sudo apt-get install <your_jre_package>
[18:32] <RussellAlan> My mouse keeps randomly moving, anyone experience this?
[18:42] <rafytafy> anyone know if Vuze works on 64bit
[18:44] <genii> rafytafy: http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/install-vuze-on-ubuntu-64bit.html
[18:47] <rafytafy> why thank you
[18:48]  * rafytafy bookmarks
[18:48] <rafytafy> i am considering 64bit since i have 4gig ram
[18:49] <rafytafy> I could try to compile a highmem64 kernel..but meh
[19:02] <nomadluap> okay, I iinstalled kde-desktop on my ubuntu system, but I don't want the kde menu to list all of my GNOME apps. How to do?
[19:04] <sasha__> тут есть кто то кто говорит по русски????
[19:04] <genii> !ru
[19:04] <genii> Hm greek maybe and not russian
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[19:33] <tkesler> is there a way to find out how thunderbird is calling a browser for links?
[19:33] <ashanti> hello. is there someone from poland ?
[19:33] <ashanti> anyone ?
[19:34] <Mamarok> !pl | ashanti
[19:34] <tkesler> or where it looks?
[19:34] <ashanti> !pl
[19:34] <Mamarok> ashanti: this channel is for support only, if you are looking a a discussion channel, go to #kubuntu-offtopic, please
[19:35] <Mamarok> for*
[19:35] <ashanti> ok. sorry guys. i'am newbie. bb
[19:35] <Mamarok> ashanti: as a general rule, you should read the channel topic
[19:35] <tkesler> anyone?
[19:35] <Mamarok> ashanti: so you know what it is about
[19:35] <tkesler> I can't figure it out
[19:36] <tkesler> *pulling hair*
[19:36] <Mamarok> tkesler: you want to know which browser is set as default?
[19:36] <tkesler> yes and no
[19:36] <Mamarok> tkesler: I don't use thunderbird, but I guess it uses the system default
[19:37] <Mamarok> and the system default settings are in the system settings :)
[19:37] <tkesler> Mamarok: there isn't one set in the sys defaults...but it somehow pulls FF3.5.  I don't even know what command it is using.  The meta package installs FF3.0.14
[19:38] <Mamarok> well, as thunderbird is made by mozilla, I guess the default settings is Firefox
[19:38] <Mamarok> what do yu mean, pulls? Opens it or installs it?
[19:39] <Mamarok> I guess I still haven't understood what you want to do exactly
[19:39] <tkesler> Mamarok: I agree...here is the strange part...I uninstalled FF3.0 and the meta pkg that it installs....guess I'm gonna have to dig deeper
[19:39] <Mamarok> tkesler: still, would you mind telling me what you whnt to do exactly?
[19:40] <Mamarok> want*
[19:40] <tkesler> Mamarok: I want to run 3.5 exclusively
[19:40] <Mamarok> ok, then remove all thinks not firefox-3.5*
[19:40] <Mamarok> things
[19:41] <Mamarok> the firefox package installs the old version, the firefox-3.5 package installs the new one
[19:41] <Mamarok> and you need to purge it, so all configuration files are removed
[19:41] <Mamarok> also, did you check if you have a thunderbird configuration folder in your home folder?
[19:42] <Mamarok> it's probably .thunderbird/
[19:42] <tkesler> Mamarok: I can't convey my issue very well.  I apologize.  I want the "firefox" command to run FF3.5.  It won't.  Just going to have to dig in the bin folder I guess...THX for your help!  Just needed a sounding board
[19:43] <Mamarok> tkesler: well, if you want to start firefox-3.5 for sure you should type 'shiretoko'
[19:46] <roema> hallo
[20:21] <dartagnan> problem like ????
[20:26] <genii> dartagnan: Don't start up in here.
[20:35] <Technoviking> What is the default media player in Kubuntu? ie the totem equilent?
[20:37] <genii> Currently, Dragon Player
[20:39] <Technoviking> What is the default media player in Kubuntu?  and the default IM client?
[20:41] <Tm_T> Technoviking: as genii mentioned, mediaplayer is Dragon Player, for IM there's Kopete
[20:41] <genii> Technoviking: Currently, Dragon Player is the default media player. And Kopete is the default IM
[20:41]  * genii sips
[20:43] <Technoviking> thanks
[20:44] <Technoviking> Does Kubuntu use Gimp or something else for Photoshop like program
[20:44] <DarkriftX> damnit, ktorrent is pissing me off
[20:44] <DarkriftX> keeps crashing but gives no info why
[20:46] <genii> Technoviking: Gimp, yes. You can also use Krita or Karbon
[20:47] <dartagnan> if I want to remove OS that arent there anymore from my grub menu, can I simply delete them in gedit?
[20:49] <dartagnan> anybody knows?
[20:50] <stoszkowsky> hello every 1 ;]
[20:51] <qazwsx> i am trying to install a dell 1720 on kubuntu 9.04 but i dont see the model listed so how can i go about installing this printer?
[20:51] <genii> dartagnan: If you are using grub2 it is different than the older grub
[20:52] <dartagnan> its a new installation of ubuntu 9.04
[20:52] <dartagnan> new grub i guess wait
[20:53] <dartagnan> where could I see it?
[20:54] <dartagnan> anyway
[20:54] <genii> dartagnan: : If it's the older grub, edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:54] <dartagnan> Im already in gedit
[20:54] <dartagnan> I did that
[20:55] <dartagnan> just asking
[20:55] <dartagnan> cuz i deleted ubuntu 8,04 but its still in the menu
[20:55] <dartagnan> I want to clean the booting meneu
[20:55] <dartagnan> and put vista first loader
[20:56] <dartagnan> it talks about writing it 0  for defualt loader
[20:56] <jeff_fox> hello
[20:57] <dartagnan> but not about deleting former os that arent there anymore
[20:57] <genii> dartagnan: apt-cache policy grub2 | grep Install                  says what?
[20:57] <genii> !hi | jeff_fox
[20:58] <jeff_fox> im thinking of using kubuntu
[20:58] <jeff_fox> but im worry
[20:58] <jeff_fox> i heard it was a distro for faggots, is it true?
[20:59] <dartagnan> dont find vertical line on my keyboard
[20:59] <subito> hi, whenever i want to launch Qsynth with alsa as an audio driver i get "failed to create the audio driver" and "failed to open the /dev/audio audio device"; i can only launch using jack as an audio driver
[20:59] <rafytafy> back :|
[20:59] <konvers> hi, when i try to download some file from rapidshare with koqueror it thinks its type is application/octet-stream and doesnt download the actual file. how can i fix that?
[21:00] <rafytafy> konvers: have you tried using firefox?
[21:00] <konvers> rafytafy: have you tried answering my question?
[21:00] <qazwsx> i am trying to install a dell 1720 on kubuntu 9.04 but i dont see the model listed so how can i go about installing this printer?
[21:01] <genii> dartagnan: Then copy and paste from what I wrote in here to Konsole
[21:03] <genii> konvers: Is the file ending with some .php extension that it wants to download?
[21:03] <konvers> genii: i just click on the download button
[21:05] <rafytafy> if its a .rar file and you dont have rar installed it might mistake it for another file extension, its why i asked about firefox
[21:05] <rafytafy> i use rapidshare too
[21:06] <konvers> i have unrar installed
[21:06] <rafytafy> let me see something ..
[21:06] <konvers> i dont need rar. which also isnt free
[21:07] <konvers> firefox works, i know, even if i dont have anything installed. rar or unrar
[21:07] <rafytafy> hmm i use file-roller
[21:07] <konvers> thats not a KDE application
[21:07] <rafytafy> i know
[21:11] <qazwsx> anyone know how to install a printer that would be willing to help me?
[21:18] <noaXess> !quicktime
[21:25] <dartagnan> back
[21:25] <dartagnan> it says none
[21:25] <dartagnan> installed (none)
[21:26] <dartagnan> Installed: 0.97-29ubuntu53
[21:28] <genii> dartagnan: Grub1 then. The menu.lst edits should be fine
[21:29] <dartagnan> k
[21:29] <dartagnan> I deleted it
[21:29] <dartagnan> now I wrote +0 for vista
[21:30] <dartagnan> should I write it at the two places?
[21:30] <qazwsx> is there a semi easy way to install a printer when the model doesnt show up in the list when installing?
[21:33] <dartagnan> I afraid to all fudge up my booting stuff
[21:35] <Sala> Help! I have problem with WUBI. Have tested both 9.04 and 9.10. Both fail at creating "menu.lst" file on boot folder (note that installation completes with no errors). As a result im unable to boot to ubuntu (however it does create ubuntu option on Windows bootloader) as it gets stuck on Grub. Im running Windows 7 RTM X64, EFI based system, ran installations both with and without Windows...
[21:35] <Sala> ...Vista compactability mode. I have already binged for ansfers (but with no results as you can see).
[21:36] <dartagnan> genii: if I simply give 0 number to cahin loader to vista will it load first?
[21:37] <rosco_y> is anyone running both an IDE bus and a SATA bus on the same computer?
[21:48] <dartagnan> you grue?
[21:48] <yoga> I just installed the 9.10 beta, when Ubuntu coume out in 24 days, how do I need to upgrade from beta?
[21:54] <genii> yoga: The usual sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade                 will keep your version current
[21:55] <dartagnan> oh competition with the grue
[21:55] <dartagnan> lol
[21:55] <dartagnan> oh big psychology here
[21:55] <yoga> genii: Thanks.
[21:56] <genii> dartagnan: What are you mumbling about?
[21:56] <dartagnan> ur stupidity
[21:56] <genii> dartagnan: Being abusive here will only get you removed... you've been warned
[21:57] <dartagnan> bullshit
[21:57] <dartagnan> bullshit
[22:06] <rosco_y> Can anyone recommend good time-tracking, or project-management software for Linux?
[22:06] <genii> rosco_y: I've used PHProjekt with pretty good results
[22:06] <rosco_y> genii: Thank you, I'll give it a look-and-see :)
[22:12] <seresos> i neEdz war3z & mp3zzzz
[22:12] <seresos> pl0x h3lp
[22:13] <N0LLY> seresos
[22:13] <N0LLY> as for music
[22:14] <N0LLY> I suggest: Nicotine-Plus
[22:14] <N0LLY> for the former, ktorrent does the trick
[22:14] <Tm_T> N0LLY: he's gone, and talking about illegal activities (piracy is considered as such) is not allowed here
[22:15] <N0LLY> but not every music is piracy right?
[22:15] <Tm_T> N0LLY: sure not, but you got my point I trust
[22:15] <N0LLY> I used Ktorrent to get openoffice ;)
[22:16] <N0LLY> I am a good guy :D
[22:16] <N0LLY> btw how do you personal message someone if I might ask?
[22:17] <Zeik> Does anyone know how to fix the issue with the mouse cursor icon being stuck in the middle of the screen during an OpenGL or SDL app?
[22:18] <N0LLY> ok, cya
[22:18] <Zeik> I have tried searching for a fix, but all i can find is a fix for the Gnome version of Ubuntu.
[22:19] <Zeik> I know it is caused by the power management daemon conflicting with the vga chipset i have.
[22:21] <maninder> if i want the compiz
[22:21] <maninder> effects
[22:21] <maninder> do i search in kpackage kit
[22:21] <maninder> compizÉ
[22:21] <maninder> or what
[22:21] <FloodBotK2> maninder: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:22] <jamesjedimaster> if kwin provides with desktop effects, why use compiz?
[22:22] <maninder> no like i want the cube
[22:23] <maninder> and like the wobbly windows etc
[22:24] <maninder> welll
[22:24] <maninder> do i just download compiz
[22:26] <Tm_T> maninder: those effects are in Kwin, but if you really like to get compiz...
[22:26] <Zeik> You should be able to get Compiz through your package manager.
[22:26] <Tm_T> !compiz | maninder
[22:27] <Zeik> Tm_T - Do you know where i go to edit the way my cursor runs software/hardware mode?
[22:27] <Tm_T> Zeik: sorry, no idea
[22:28] <Zeik> For Gnome it is in the Xorg.conf, sure as hell aint in that file for Kubuntu though....
[22:29] <Tm_T> Zeik: it is there, except Qt/Kwin/something else might override and force software mode
[22:29] <Tm_T> Zeik: that's all I know
[22:29] <Zeik> Ok, kool.
[22:30] <Zeik> I have that problem with the mouse icon stuck in teh middle of teh screen, been trying to fix it for awhile now.
[22:30] <Tm_T> weird
[22:30] <Tm_T> Zeik: this is only in KDE?
[22:30] <Zeik> It's an Intel only problem.
[22:31] <Zeik> Intel GPU has a conflict with the Gnome power manager in Ubuntu, and i guess it has an issue in Kubuntu as well.
[22:31] <maninder> is there anyway of controlling the brightness of monitor using toshiba laptop
[22:31] <maninder> É
[22:31] <Zeik> I dont know what the name of the KDE power management daemon is.
[22:31] <Riddell> any jaunty users able to test 4.3.2?
[22:41] <lovre> hi al
[22:42] <lovre> what is the best was to keep some data and search trought it, like a binary tree or something.. whats best choice for PHP*
[22:43] <lovre> oops, sorry wrong channel
[22:46] <rafytafy> anyone here
[22:51] <Mamarok> Riddell: I can
[22:52] <rp2> boo!
[22:53] <Mamarok> rp2: do you have a question?
[22:55] <rp2> Mamarok: thanks for asking. actually, I'm wondering why my KDE package manager doesn't work
[22:56] <Mamarok> rp2: a little more information about your KDE and Kubuntu version would be useful
[22:56] <rafytafy> Mamarok: i have a question, its not really kubuntu related but maybe you can give me some advice
[22:57] <rafytafy> i put my old nvidia gs 7600 on sale on craigslist...what do you think i should ask for it?
[22:57] <rp2> well i should have googled for it first ... just a sec
[22:57] <Mamarok> no idea
[22:57] <rafytafy> hmm
[22:57] <rafytafy> i figure 33% of the original price
[22:57] <Mamarok> rafytafy: and this doesn't belong here, you should ask in #kubuntu-offtopic
[22:57] <rafytafy> ah
[22:59] <rp2> it's 9.04.
[22:59] <rp2> but i performed some updates (with apt-get and aptitude and it's gone
[23:00] <Mamarok> rp2: which KDE version? 4.2.2 is default, 4.2.4 is in the backports AFAIK
[23:01] <rp2> and now i have Synaptic in the menu instead. and Synaptic was working fine last time i tried it (before the reinstall that is)
[23:01] <r3d0x> hi
[23:01] <rp2> so my question is at least suspended
[23:01] <r3d0x> how can i update my new kubuntu installation with the non freee codecs?
[23:02] <Mamarok> r3d0x: install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[23:03] <Mamarok> rp2: well, you still didn't tell me the KDE version
[23:04] <r3d0x> thanks Mamarok
[23:04] <rp2> yes, it works. so I did have a question, but i was stupid enough to hope that just updating everything would fix it, and cleverly enough, that's exactly what has happened!
[23:05] <rp2> pretty cool ...
[23:05] <Mamarok> rp2: nice :)
[23:05] <Mamarok> r3d0x: you are welcome
[23:05] <NiNes> is kubuntu a good choice for a beginner to linux
[23:05] <rp2> my second question isn't KDE-related: i want to know whether i can use two motherboards with the (cheap) hardware I have
[23:05] <Mamarok> NiNes: I think so, yes
[23:06] <rp2> NiNes: I always liked KDE better than Gnome, so I'd say yes
[23:06] <Mamarok> rp2: no idea, sorry, you should check on Google for that
[23:06] <NiNes> oh i hate gnome.
[23:06] <Mamarok> folks, stay on topic, discussions should go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[23:06] <rp2> Mamarok: I have (on that one) - there is lots of general advice, but usually it involves Nvidia cards
[23:07] <NiNes> i'm just wondering, besides the fact you all most likely run kubuntu what would you recommend to a newb? as a good distro to start with?
[23:07] <Mamarok> rp2: again, I can't help you with that
[23:07] <rp2> no problem ...
[23:07] <Mamarok> NiNes: well, Kubuntu of course :)
[23:07] <Zeikfried> Does anyone know how to change the cursor from Hardware mode to Software mode?
[23:08] <rp2> NiNes: I haven't tried many lately, I've always been happy with SuSE, and I quite like Ubuntu but I'm really happy I switched to KDE (kubuntu) for this install
[23:08] <NiNes> i've heard suse isnt all that easy to install
[23:08] <NiNes> but then again...
[23:09] <rp2> one thing i haven't figured out is how to get a decent resolution, but I'm afraid that's Xorg related rather than KDE related
[23:09] <rp2> NiNes: it was for me
[23:09] <rp2> but then again, I used to be a SOlaris sysadmin
[23:09] <NiNes> i'm the new guy i installed ubuntu last night, freaked out then installed (came running back to windows) windows 7 RC
[23:10] <rosco_y> NiNes: I've tried a few distros, I like kubuntu the best (I'm also a newbie)
[23:10] <rp2> Zeik: I don't. do you realize Zeik is the Dutch word for 'piss'?
[23:10] <rp2> NiNes: what made you freak out? too many things to figure out?
[23:10] <NiNes> rosco_y, thanks thats something i needed to hear!
[23:11] <rosco_y> NiNes: I think you'll like kubuntu
[23:11] <NiNes> rp2, kind of just the fact it was gnome, maybe. just different in  alot of big ways to windows. which is all i know
[23:12] <rosco_y> I used both gnome and the kde window managers, I personally like kde
[23:12] <Mamarok> NiNes, rosco_y please, this is off-topic here, discussions is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[23:12] <rosco_y> Mamarok: noted, Thank you.
[23:13] <rp2> yes, but KDE is different as well .. .I don't expect it will be much more like Windows.  I have always found it a lot more pleasant than Gnome though ... hard to say why. a little smoother, better looking, easier to use, but that's just my impression
[23:13] <rp2> Mamarok: why is it off-topic?
[23:13] <Mamarok> rp2: offtopic, please stop that
[23:13] <Mamarok> discussion, this channel is for support only
[23:13] <rp2> oh wait NiNes hasn't tried kubuntu yet. sorry.
[23:15]  * NiNes joins offtopic channel.
[23:15] <NiNes> sorry Mamarok
[23:15] <Mamarok> NiNes: no problem, thx :)
[23:16] <Idhan>  hi, according to this website http://go-oo.org/download/ I can install go-oo through the ubuntu repositories.. I did it but I can get the 3D presentation, any idea?
[23:17] <Idhan> *I cann't
[23:22] <Cydell> The 9.10 beta is looking really good so far. I really like the new installer
[23:23] <Mamarok> Cydell: please see the topic
[23:24] <r3d0x> what tool for php coding in kubuntu?
[23:24] <Mamarok> r3d0x: depends, Quanta+ is nice
[23:29] <rp2> Idhan: there are some al;ternative, nonstandard repositories for Ubuntu, eg Mediabuntu, could it be that it's in there?
[23:57] <hexorg> Hey! I need a little help with lamp
[23:58] <hexorg> I'm behind a collage's router... Is there a way to acces apach with UPnP?