=== administrator is now known as Guest22471 === michel_ is now known as MikHell [00:20] accept backdorrs [00:20] lol [00:21] you are laughing at the nounoune === Riddelll is now known as Riddell [00:25] only a couple few more weeks until karmic comes out... hope it will be ready for the masses [00:26] oops, wrong channel, sorry [00:34] Hey can somebody help me with a dns issue? [00:36] anybody? [00:39] salut === Heliwr_ is now known as Heliwr [00:47] is anyone here? [00:54] any chance of getting a working amarok 2.2 in kubuntu ppas? [01:03] hie there, can somebody tell me how to change the x11 permission on Kubuntu 9.04? === VTardia is now known as Vert [01:19] anyone here? [01:24] hello.. [01:24] I am here. [01:25] But I am nobody and I know nothing, so... [01:25] * Vert considers changing her name to ¨Patently Useless¨ [01:25] what is the purpose of this chat room . ?? [01:25] just found it in my list of things.. [01:26] I would suppose it is to provide support for all things Ubuntu? [01:26] hmm interesting [01:26] ok then, I have a problem :) how nice.. [01:26] I wonder if peter is a person or a bot? [01:26] lol [01:26] I hope you aren´t asking me. [01:26] I know NOTHING. [01:26] I can even figure out how to install SDL [01:26] lol [01:26] hmm I don't know what sdl is [01:27] or why when I say ¨install this file" the system tells me ¨What file?¨ [01:27] my kpackagekit is broken :( [01:27] Then I do ¨ls¨ and it lists the very file it doesn´t see at all. [01:28] And *then* I bang my head into my keyboard for about 20 minutes or so. [01:28] Does banging yer head seem to help ? [01:28] It makes me too tired to be angry anymore. [01:28] So... kind of? [01:28] agreed. [01:29] ok well im off to google, and some more wine.. [01:29] good luck [01:29] real wine, not linux's wine [01:29] I will try to comprehend the FAQ some more. [01:29] lol [01:29] :) [01:39] Hallelujah! I have accidentally hit the right keys and am now installing SDL [01:39] I think I would learn a lot quicker if I had *any* idea WTF I am doing. [01:55] Trouble setting screen size to x1024 === koh__ is now known as hihowya3 === hihowya3 is now known as RussellAlan [04:09] WOW!!! [04:09] WTH is this?!?!?!?!! [04:17] Hello, im having troubles connecting to an openvpn server. I have all the key and certs from the vpn admin along with a vpn config file. ive tried network manager and kvpnc. openvpn is installed. [04:51] hey can somebody help me with rndc? [04:54] yang_: whats the issue? [04:55] rndc wont connect to bind9 locally [04:55] giving a socket error? [04:55] hollowPoint: no a invalid key is the problem [04:55] aaaaaaaaaaaah [04:56] I had that problem once I'm trying to remember how I solved it [04:56] HollowPoint: i tried with the but there is no /etc/rndc.conf file [04:56] it was a feature of rndc first of all to re-generate a new key, I had to use that first [04:56] HollowPoint: rndc-confgen [04:56] if there's no rndc.conf file I would first and foremost find a generic one with google and modify it [04:57] HollowPoint: but it produces no output... related to the /dev/random not being seeded and out of ouput [04:57] hmmmmm [04:57] HollowPoint: i have one generic that dosn't make a diffrence for somereason [04:58] it's been a long time since I had this error. Are you on Jaunty? did it ever work? [04:58] Yeah Im on jaunty. I have unistalled and reinstall purge like 3 or 4 times today. I made it work onces [04:59] right, so when did it stop? Did you change something and restart the daemon? [04:59] It works out of the box but after I change any options at all in /etc/bind/named.conf.options [04:59] ok what options are you changing? [04:59] then rndc complains it has a bad key. all i have done is uncomment forwarders [05:00] have you added forwarders or just uncomment them? [05:03] I've just installed a fresh bind9 on my system, changed out the 0.0.0.0 in forwarders for my dns server locally and restarted bind9 service with no issues, I am on Karmic as opposed to Jaunty but I doubt highly that'll make any difference to bind9 and it's configuration tbh [05:08] IDK ill purge it and try it again [05:10] failed again [05:11] what verision is bind9 in karmic? [05:13] BIND 9.6.1-P1 [05:13] I know this is a stupid question but you are trying to restart it with sudo right? [05:14] some apps tend to fail restarts with odd reasons even though it's actually a permissions error [05:14] sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart [05:14] ty for help btw [05:15] no worries, so I can't help more, I've tried to reproduce the error on Karmic, but the last time I had this error was way back when in Hardy [05:15] sorry I can't .... * [05:15] i think i got it. 2 forwaders are issue [05:15] one forwarder runs fine. [05:15] yeah that would no doubt do it [05:15] maybe syntax [05:16] or possibly need a second forwarders tag [05:16] yeah [05:17] hmmmmmmmm, two tags, using identical syntax fails here [05:18] aha [05:18] 192.168.0.254; 192.168.0.1; works fine here [05:18] on the same line, with a space after the first semi colon [05:18] hmm? [05:18] i did 2 lines. [05:18] ill try it [05:18] yeah me too first time [05:18] seems to require them on the same line with a simple spane and not a \n [05:19] its good [05:19] ty [05:19] :D [05:19] glad I could help [05:19] off to try a zone again! [05:19] thanks! [05:19] gl [05:19] cya [05:19] cya [05:20] Hi All [05:20] Hi All, I am trying to follow the following URL for making a live CD/DVD from harddisk installation [05:21] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872 [05:21] However, at step E.1. (Build the CD/DVD), when I issue the following command: [05:21] sudo mkisofs -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -V "Custom Live CD" -cache-inodes -r -J -l -o ~/live-cd.iso $CD [05:21] I am getting the following error: [05:21] manu_zacharia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:21] ok thanks - here it goes - http://pastebin.com/m634ad4c8 [05:31] manu_zacharia: did you use genisoimage -h like it says? [05:32] you mean help? HollowPoint ? [05:32] yeah, should do the same thing with -h or -help [05:33] yes when i type genisoimage -h i am getting a Warning and also a Missing pathspec [05:34] i was just following the tutorial (first link) [05:34] and stuck up there at this point [05:36] http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=21492 [05:37] read that to post 8, I think you'll find you've done the same thing he did [05:37] ok let me try [05:38] thanks for the response HollowPoint [05:38] np === monsterr is now known as monsterr99 [05:52] on jaunty. I have a usb thumbdrive that flickers the light when inserted, then nothing. cant access it. [05:52] any ideas why. [05:52] it reads fine on windows [05:53] I have a few of those myself, even on Karmic..the reason why it happens though is beyond me...i was experiencing this a bit when messing with the usb-creator stuff with the iso files [05:55] cheers nixternal. makes life a little bit more trickey. [05:55] hehe, right [05:56] i do have one key that refuses to work on anything, but it will work on a windows machine at the library [05:57] i found one thread that said add usb_storage to /etc/modules so i did, and that made the light flicker on startup. pretty, but not much help. [05:59] only at the library, on a tuesday eh. :) [06:00] Carrion (from the Latin caro, meaning meat) refers to the carcass of a dead animal. Carrion is an important food source for large carnivores and omnivores in most ecosystems. Examples of carrion-eaters, or scavengers, include Hyenas, Vultures, Canadian Opossum, Tasmanian Devils, Black Bears, Komodo Dragons, Bald Eagles, Raccoons, flying squirrels, and Blue-tongued lizards. Many invertebrates, such [06:00] as worms, maggots and carrion beetles (family Silphidae), and Calliphorid flies also eat carrion and play an important role in recycling animal remains. [06:00] Carrion begins to decay the moment of the animal's death, and it will increasingly attract insects and breed bacteria. Not long after the animal has died, its body will begin to exude a foul odor caused by the presence of bacteria and the emission of cadaverine and putrescine. [06:00] Some plants and fungi smell like decomposing carrion and attract insects that aid in sex. Plants that exhibit this behavior are known as carrion flowers. Stinkhorn mushrooms are examples of fungi with this characteristic. [06:00] Axmen6: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [06:00] HollowPoint: hey i hate to bother you again. but you wanna help me with one last thing? [06:06] sorry mate on phone 2 secs [06:27] !unison [06:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about unison === andrew_ is now known as Guest8061 [06:30] hey people im lookiing for a free xchange similar server with a client ....open xchange wold have been something I would have used had it not been for the limmeted amount of users (and the crazy price).unison has some interesting server side software however its eula is not by any means opensources...even if it uses opensource components. Does anyone have any sujestions ? === Guest8061 is now known as drurew [06:32] can anyone help me with a hopefully easy scripting problem? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d44b3aeb8 [06:32] if i type the script line by line in the terminal it works, but the script acts like cd is not a command [06:32] then is it a syntax problem ? [06:33] unfortunately i don't know drurew, ive wrote similar scripts the same and they worked [06:34] are you talking about the first line ? [06:35] i thought the first like would bring the directory to the home level [06:36] Sp0d: just change cd ~ to the actual directory [06:37] or like cd ~/user/file/location [06:38] ahhh.... didn't know you could say it like that... [06:39] nice, [06:39] hey thanks drurew! that seems to be working better! [06:39] cool [06:40] thanks again, im out === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [07:07] Uh, I have a bit of an odd question. How is it that even though my router says I am connected via an ethernet cable to the internet (and router), my computer does not. As in, eth0 won't connect to anything, manual or automatic. The internet still works though. [07:30] hi [07:43] hi === Unksi_ is now known as Unksi === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === kb is now known as Guest78989 === thor is now known as Thor44 [08:33] hola.... saludos desde mexico ... alguien habla español??? [08:36] ok como todos hablan al mismo tiempo y no se les entiende nada me retiro.... saludos a todos los que me entiendan [08:36] bye [08:43] Brb [08:44] But if anyone has a minute whats the best straitforward solution to: [08:44] louis@louis-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install karchiver [08:44] sudo: must be setuid root [08:44] louis@louis-desktop:~$ [08:44] louis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:44] okay [08:45] I had gotten tired of constant pwd wntry so I typed sudo -s inconsole and forgot to type exit in console oh I goofed now I'm in here crying for help [08:46] Has anyone found a working solution? [09:06] when using dpkg-reconfigure I would like to activate all the questions, including low priority .... unfortunately in my man debconf page there is nothing about the levels. Can anyone help here? [09:08] Just in case you were all worried I found the solution: http://mihirknows.blogspot.com/2008/06/sudo-must-be-setuid-root-solved-in.html [09:09] louis: sorry, just come in .... the solution to what? [09:21] Hi and thanks to everyone [09:22] when using dpkg-reconfigure I would like to activate all the questions, including low priority .... unfortunately in my man debconf page there is nothing about the levels. Can anyone help here? [09:22] does someone knows what's the process npviewer.bin process? I noticed my laptop was getting very warm and heavy, I went to monitoring system and I found that application (whuch I haven't oppened) is taking 54% of my CPU! [09:22] I'm running Kubuntu 9.04 [09:29] javier: never heard, have you done some googling? [09:29] nop [09:30] just log on computer and it was there [09:32] javier: its for flash [09:33] !find npviewer.bin [09:33] File npviewer.bin found in nspluginwrapper [09:33] !info nspluginwrapper [09:33] nspluginwrapper (source: nspluginwrapper): A wrapper to run Netscape plugins on other architectures. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 1.2.2-0ubuntu5 (jaunty), package size 173 kB, installed size 504 kB (Only available for amd64 i386) [09:33] javier: so does that explain it? [09:34] amm... yes, I guess. And I guess also I just kill it when I find this is happening? [09:34] javier: no, if you want flash to run... [09:35] It's weird that I find on google the same bug from 2005, and 4 years later I still suffer it :) Flash is horrible [09:35] +1 [09:36] yes, yes. But now I wasnt running flash when I saw the process. That's what I mean, if it persist when I'm not with flash, I will have to close it manually, although maybe it doesnt happen again [09:43] when using dpkg-reconfigure I would like to activate all the questions, including low priority .... unfortunately in my man debconf page there is nothing about the levels. Can anyone help here? [09:46] what is indicator-apple? it looks like a process .... [09:46] oh ok .... it is indicator-applet .... [09:46] pstree is removing the t .... sorry for the silly question! === marius is now known as Guest7064 [09:52] can I somehow boot kubuntu so that before starting a service, I get a question if the service should be started or not? [09:52] my ubuntu hangs on boot, but no idea why and on what service [09:52] the kernel itself starts and the initscript is started also === marius is now known as Guest90556 [10:06] everytime I start kde4, I get a window with akonadi starting up and failing [10:06] how can I stop that? [10:08] hi, what would be a good tool to monitor internet traffic? [10:09] hi all. how can i make inactive windows go transparent? [10:09] lovre: what kde? [10:10] kaddi: 4.3 [10:10] kaddi: 4.3.1 [10:10] systemsettings, select first entry at the top left, enabe desktop effects and look for transparency under all effects. in the settings you should be able to use them [10:10] set them [10:11] no cool boot for kubuntu in karmic :( [10:13] kaddi: and what if im using Compiz, i suppose that works with Kwin only? [10:13] sorry, i don't know then. maybe someone else nknows [10:13] kaddi: ok, thank you very much === NovEx_2fast4u is now known as UU0113 [10:28] hi people [10:28] hi [10:29] I'm running kde 4.3.1 on jaunty and the icons are not showing in the system tray [10:29] not all of them, only the network manager, kmix and the wallet [10:30] I'm not sure if it's a general problem, or something here [10:30] but that wasn't happening with 4.2.x, iirc === marius is now known as Guest82296 [10:40] Ursinha-sprint: I had a thought, are they "hidden" ? [10:40] bigjools, nope, I thought of that, but I've disabled the hide icons thing [10:40] no success :/ [10:41] ola [10:51] !fdisk [10:51] Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk [10:51] !fstab [10:51] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [10:52] hello every one how can i list the partition of my hard disk [10:55] when i install splash screen themes they dont appear in the list, so i cant select them. What is this about === kb is now known as Guest34269 [11:18] hi [11:19] who have installed kde 4.3 on kubuntu 9.04 [11:19] ????? [11:19] i did [11:19] from ppa? [11:20] i'll tell what i did and the problem that i got [11:20] y0uCeF: from this: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main [11:20] first i added the ppa [11:20] and the key [11:20] i did an update [11:20] than [11:21] apt-get upgrade kubuntu-desktop [11:21] i did an apt-get upgrade [11:21] without precising the package [11:21] maybe you are missing something because you only upgraded kubuntu-desktop? [11:23] you know the problem? [11:24] i have reinstalled kubuntu [11:24] and did just an update without tha ppa and the same problem [11:24] i think it's from a library [11:28] kubunto will have kde 4.3.2? [11:29] kubuntu 9.10 i mean [11:30] Bou: i'll try upgrade and tell you [11:31] but with my 128kb after a mounth hhhh [11:31] whats mean it will be in officiel reposities [11:32] and sorry for my bad english it is my third language [11:34] witam [11:38] is there a way to build amarok 2.2 on 9.04 without new taglib 1.6? [11:42] Hi to everyone :) I've problems with audio in my kubuntu 9.04. I have to use "PulseAudio" because HDA Nvidia (Conexant Analog) gives problems and does not work. Does someone knows how to repair it, please? [11:44] I try to use HDA Nvidia (Conexant Analog) but it says it doesnt work and also that it will use HDA Nvidia (Conexant Digital), but it doesnt sound, so I guess, although it detects that "digital" works fine, it may be something wrong with it as well [11:45] Can someone help me fixing that? [11:45] no [11:45] all people have this problem [11:46] amm, really? [11:46] Pufff, it's a problem with some problems, for example with Skype, that I cannot make it work fine [11:47] is it something with Xine? [11:47] javier: jackd would fix this [11:47] but still a bit tricky to handle [11:48] the card is noticed by alsa ? [11:48] or are the sound drivers not working too [11:48] completely [11:49] well, I'm not sure if I can answer that [11:49] but yes, it's noticed by alsa [11:49] is kubuntu as well funded as ubuntu?? [11:50] NiNes: ? [11:50] alsa: x-phonon: card=0, Dev=0 [11:50] well funded probably the wrong word [11:51] javier: my system is using jackd for all sound in comb ination with alsa i dont know if this is working with youre card [11:51] i've heard its not "looked after" bug etc... as ubuntu is but i really like kde [11:51] NiNes: QA is in both the same [11:51] -_- [11:52] ghostcube: so, you don't know if that would work with me? [11:52] no its just an suggest to try [11:52] :) [11:52] i cant tell if it would work [11:52] I would like to try, could you give me a link to how to do it or help? [11:52] ghostcube, i'm new to linux and trying to figure out whats best for me. [11:53] javier: you need to use some files from debian packages and extract them manually into the needed foldersto get jackd to work in kubuntu [11:54] lol [11:55] ay.. it looks a bit complicated, I'm not sure if I could do something like that. I've never done anything similar :S [11:55] its easy if you can wait i can tell you later when iam home [11:55] :) [11:55] my system see VIA HD Sound but... "not work" [11:55] deb packages are nothing else than zip packages [11:55] javier: so its easy to take an library out to put it into system [11:55] :) [11:55] no need to compile or so [11:56] or you just grab the xine-lib packages from debian sid and install it [11:56] mhm. So, could you asses me a bit in the process? I guess, for starting, I would have to find those debian packages. Which are their names? [11:56] ok [11:56] xine-lib packages [11:57] libxine [11:57] wait [12:00] i'm having trouble with dual monitors on 9.04, on a HP laptop using a Radeon HD 3650. and an external monitor that supports 1920x1200 (the laptop monitor supports 1680x1050, tried setting both monitors to 1680x1050, screen clone works fine, but using xrander to set DVI-0 right-of LVDS gives an error (xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1920x1600 (desired size 3360x1050), and yes, i've added a Virtual entry to xorg.conf (Virtua [12:00] any suggestions? [12:02] hello [12:03] o/ [12:03] i'm running 9.10 beta and am trying to get a usb audio card to work--i'm quite confused about what the "system settings" window does [12:04] i have gone to System Settings -> Multimedia and made USB Audio preferred for everything but it still doesn't work--including the "Test" button [12:04] javier: what version 32 or 64 bit [12:04] 64 [12:05] http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xine-lib/libxine1-misc-plugins_1.1.16.3-1+b3_amd64.deb === Ursinha-sprint is now known as Ursinha-afk [12:05] the only way i can get any sound out of it is by forcing alsa to use hw 1 with a script in /etc/asound.conf [12:05] javier: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/verison_number/xineplug_ao_out_jack.so [12:06] javier: inside the deb is the file i showed you copy it to the folder youre xine plugins are located [12:07] so i'm confused about what the best way is to use usb-audio on kubuntu--it seems that system settings -> multimedia is meant to do just that but it doesn't work at all--what does it even do? [12:12] ghostcube: ok, I'm improving. Let me tell you where I am. I went to the folder you said: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26. I dont find there xineplug_ao_out_jack.so [12:12] lol [12:12] no you have a plugin folder in /usr/lib/xine [12:12] and it has a version number [12:12] just copy the file from the deb file to this location [12:12] :) [12:12] I downloaded the deb file. If I press on it, it tells to install and gives an error. I extracted it [12:13] yeah and inside there is jack outpout libaryr [12:13] yes, inside /usr/lib/xine I have plugin folder: and inside plugins I have folder 1.26 that is my version, I think [12:14] but inside, I dont read "jack" anywhere [12:16] I have five plugin files:xineplug_ao_out_alsa.so; xineplug_ao_out_file.so; xineplug_ao_out_none.so; xineplug_ao_out_oss.so; xineplug_ao_out_pulseaudio.so [12:18] hmmm [12:18] maybe you mean that after installing deb file I will have that? [12:19] if I try to install deb file it reports an error and it closes [12:19] javier: i see it [12:19] ok i give you the file [12:20] well, in the folder we are talking about, I have more xineplug files, but not _ao_out_*, but different, and any related to jack [12:20] no [12:20] we talking of different folders [12:21] if you extract the deb file it will contain the jackd file [12:21] you should copy it to youre local folder [12:21] so we definetly talk about two different folders [12:21] http://www.speedyshare.com/412999885.html [12:21] ammm [12:21] get the file here and copy it over to [12:22] but if I extract the deb file you sent me, It contains "control.tar.gz", "data.tar.bz.2" and "debian-binary". I dont know which one I'm supposed to copy to the folder /usr/lib/xine/plugins/verison_number/ [12:23] in the data tar logically is the data tar hehe [12:23] inside this is the folder you need [12:23] but just get the file i postet [12:23] its the same === happyhessian1 is now known as happyhessian [12:24] ok, had to install a new irc client there...i asked earlier about system settings-> multimedia [12:25] ok :) I got the file. I downloaded it and I have it in my desktop. I'll copy it to /usr/lib/xine/plugins/verison_number/ [12:25] right? [12:25] :) [12:25] trying to get a usb-audio device to work, phonon (or whatever one would call this part of the system) identifies the usb-audio device and i can set it as my preferred device--but it doesn't work [12:26] the only way i can make it work is with an asound.conf script [12:27] ok, so now, it doesnt let me copy it. I think because I'm not working as root, isn't it? how could I copy it from terminal? (sorry for so much work, I'm very thankfull) [12:27] sudo cp [12:29] sudo cp doesnt work, "missing one argument for that" [12:31] ok, I see. I have to write what to move from where to where. something like sudo cp xineplug_ao_out_jack.so /javier/Escritorio usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26??? [12:34] sudo cp xineplug ao out jack.so /javier/Escritorio /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26 [12:35] I wrote that, but with xineplug_ao_out_jack.so, but doesnt work, I'm writting something wrong in the order I think [12:38] oha [12:38] it says "cannot make stat over xineplug_ao_out_jack.so [12:38] is the file direkt inside home folder [12:38] ? [12:38] I'm very bad with konsole yet, begginers... [12:38] I mean, I don't know how to move the file with sudo cp [12:39] sudo cp filename /usr/lib/..... [12:39] you never used windows doshell eh ? [12:39] :) [12:42] ghg [12:43] sudo cp xineplug_ao_out_jack.so /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26/ shouldn't this work??? It answers "couldnt make 'stat' over <>: the file or the folder don't exist [12:46] i guess i'll try again some other time... [12:47] I have debian installed on a certain partition. Can i safely install Kubuntu on top of it by just formatting the partition and going through with the Kubuntu installation procedure ? [12:48] you will erase debian [12:48] note: I also run ubuntu hardy(which i use now) which i would like to keep [12:48] dartagnan_: thats should be okay so long as thats all it does :P [12:48] you have to create a third partition [12:49] dartagnan_: what for do i need a third partition ? [12:49] Gooood morning. [12:49] you wan to keep debian or replace it by kubuntu? [12:49] dartagnan_: i want to replace debian [12:49] Kubuntu for teh win baby! I'm absolutely lovin' v9.10!!! [12:49] k [12:49] ghostcube: could you tell me what to write? file name: xineplug_ao_out_jack.so the file is in /home/javier/Escritorio the folder where I'm trying to move it is: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26 [12:50] Bornabe: dartagnan_ : I wanna replace debian with kubuntu karmic [12:50] Had to remove all the eMail, Contacts, etc... and switched to FireFox / Thunderbird, but other than that, it's awesome. [12:50] Karmic is an excellent release as well. [12:50] you have to erase deian partion first I think [12:50] after you install kubuntu [12:50] could somebody help me with Firefox and Iceweasel (they are not running) [12:50] I did a full backup of what I had and went for an all-out Kubuntu only install this time. [12:51] you do it in two steps or your installing kubuntu manually at first time [12:51] Be back in a few, going to tighten up a few loosends and then come back to see if I can help. [12:51] Bornabe: its easy [12:52] dartagnan_: so you're saying i first format my debian drive & then install Kubuntu on it ? [12:52] I love quassel btw [12:53] you reformat ur debian partition [12:53] you can do it by many ways [12:54] dartagnan_: about the idea of reformatting my deb partition : 1. will it remove debian completely with no leftovers? 2. will it not affect *anything else* ? [12:54] use gparted [12:54] if so, then i'm fine with it [12:54] or you can simply choose install kubuntu manually and tell it to install on the debian partition [12:55] dartagnan_: this seems an easier option. [12:55] kubuntu for the win? [12:55] dartagnan_: Kubuntu yes.. only a matter of how :-) [12:55] is it so much better than ubuntu? [12:56]