[00:18] <RenatoSilva> I reveive this error while trying to change description of bug 181102: "Entity-body was not a well-formed JSON document."
[00:18] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 181102 in aptoncd "APTonCD can't handle spaced paths" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181102
[00:18] <RenatoSilva> * receive
[00:20] <ScottK> RenatoSilva: It's a known bug.  I don't know the bug number.
[00:20] <RenatoSilva> ok
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[04:06] <Sourcegeek> Hi all
[04:07] <Sourcegeek> When i try to download a file, it returns me an error
[04:07] <mwhudson> Sourcegeek: example?
[04:08] <Sourcegeek> mwhudson: This:           Please try again                    Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.                             Try reloading this page in a minute or two.           If the problem persists, let us know in           the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.                  Thanks for your patience.
[04:08] <mwhudson> Sourcegeek: is this in the bazaar.launchpad.net source code viewer?
[04:08] <Sourcegeek> mwhudson: This URL: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~turl/%2Bjunk/ircbot/files/53
[04:11] <mwhudson> Sourcegeek: is it working now?
[04:11] <mwhudson> it seems to be ok again
[04:12] <Sourcegeek> im going to check it
[04:12] <Sourcegeek> wait a moment please
[04:13] <Sourcegeek> mwhudson: Thanks, its working now :)
[04:13] <mwhudson> Sourcegeek: i didn't do anything, so np :)
[04:13] <mwhudson> i need to find some time to make that service less flakey though...
[04:13] <Sourcegeek> I think it went a serven problem..... lol
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[04:13] <Sourcegeek> mwhudson: Yeah, the server
[04:14] <Sourcegeek> Ok im out now
[04:14] <Sourcegeek> Thanks
[06:12] <jderose> Hello, I'm trying to use the VCS import service to import a git branch.  The resulting branch is at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/freeipa/master
[06:13] <jderose> The import is failing, it believe because of some trailing white space when I pasted in the git URI. I don't seem to be able to edit it myself, can anyone in the ~vcs-imports team help me?
[06:53] <mwhudson> jderose: one sec
[06:53] <jderose> mwhudson: awesome, thanks
[06:53] <mwhudson> jderose: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/freeipa/test-freeipa <- was this you?
[06:54] <mwhudson> jderose: in any case, it's the branch you want i think
[06:54] <jderose> mwhudson: yes, that was me earlier.  i'd like that one deleted, if possible
[06:54] <mwhudson> jderose: oh ok
[06:54] <jderose> i'm mostly doing the import again to check that everything works okay with 2a format
[06:55] <mwhudson> jderose: ok, should be ready to go soon
[06:56] <jderose> mwhudson: great, thanks so much for your help!
[06:59] <jderose> mwhudson: how do you feeling about doing a strip() to remove leading and trailing whitespace off of the URI when one submits a request at https://code.launchpad.net/+code-imports/+new ?
[07:02] <mwhudson> jderose: it would be a good idea yes
[07:02] <mwhudson> jderose: there
[07:02] <mwhudson> 's a bug report somewhere...
[07:22] <jderose> mwhudson: okay, i'll check it out.  thanks again.
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[08:42] <al-maisan> Good morning!
[08:43] <Phurl> hi all
[08:43] <Phurl> where can I find a rss feed of my lauchpad project
[08:57] <Appiah> Is it possible to use the bugtracker in launchpad for wishlist? I cant find it
[08:58] <Phurl> http://feeds.edge.launchpad.net/~kosova/+junk/openstreetmapkosova/branch.atom
[09:30] <funkyHat> How do I unmark a bug as duplicate?
[09:31] <funkyHat> Oh found it
[09:31] <funkyHat> :)
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[10:42] <Lunkwill> hi, I've been trying for weeks to delete a series from a launchpad project that another developer added by accident.
[10:43] <Lunkwill> it keeps telling me " Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. "
[10:43] <Ursinha-sprint> Lunkwill, do you have the link that's failing? It's failing consistently since the first time you tried or this message you're getting just now?
[10:44] <Lunkwill> Ursinha-sprint: the url is https://launchpad.net/nav/4.0/+delete and it's been failing consistently for weeks (even before the upgrade to launchpad 3)
[10:45] <Ursinha-sprint> Lunkwill, you're not able to load this page? loaded instantly to me here
[10:45] <Lunkwill> Oh, it loads instantly for me as well, but all it says is "Please try again.  Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[10:45] <Lunkwill> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[10:45] <Lunkwill> Thanks for your patience."
[10:47] <Ursinha-sprint> Lunkwill, how come it loads and displays the error message at the same time? :)
[10:47] <Ursinha-sprint> when I say it loads, I mean it loads the page as it should be
[10:48] <Lunkwill> Ursinha-sprint:  well, for me it loads a page with that exact message in the HTML content.
[10:50] <Lunkwill> Ursinha-sprint: sorry, forgot to say that this error appears when doing a POST request against that URL
[10:50] <Lunkwill> Which is what happens when I push the "Delete this series" form button on the GET-version of the page.
[10:52] <peso> I'm trying to set a translations export branch, but get an error "invalid value". The branch is lp:~tortoisehg-i18n/tortoisehg/unstable-po and the page with the export formular is https://translations.launchpad.net/tortoisehg/unstable/+link-translations-branch
[10:52] <Lunkwill> Ursinha-sprint: looking at the HTTP headers, the return error code is 502 Bad Gateway
[10:52] <peso> I'm unable to locate the branch via the "Choose.." link, but I can read its content via web https://code.launchpad.net/~tortoisehg-i18n/tortoisehg/unstable-po
[10:54] <peso> Any ideas?
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[10:58] <wgrant> peso: At the moment, I believe that you can only specify a branch that *you* own (not a team). You can change the branch's owner later.
[10:58] <cwickert> connection dropped, not sure if my question reached this chan, so once again
[10:58] <cwickert> how to search several "projects" in launchpad? I'd like to see all xfce related bugs in jaunty, although these are ~ 25 projects
[10:58] <peso> wgrant: thanks! I'll do that
[10:58] <wgrant> cwickert: You mean packages, rather than projects?
[10:58] <cwickert> wgrant: well, the search form says "projects"
[10:59] <wgrant> cwickert: That probably doesn't search through what you think it does.
[10:59] <wgrant> cwickert: You want to search for bugs in those packages *in Ubuntu*, right?
[11:00] <cwickert> wgrant: as LP is not used by upstream Xfce, yes
[11:00] <wgrant> cwickert: In that case you want to search in a package, not a project.
[11:00] <wgrant> cwickert: However there is no way to search through multiple targets at once, unfortunately.
[11:00] <wgrant> Well, there is, sort of.
[11:00] <cwickert> wgrant: so what is the best way? a tracker?
[11:01] <cwickert> wgrant: or how to search for status, e.g. all open Xfce bugs?
[11:01] <wgrant> cwickert: One of my teams, ~motuscience, is subscribed to all of the science-related packages in Ubuntu. I can then go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1, and enter the team name as the bug contact.
[11:01] <wgrant> cwickert: Launchpad doesn't know about this 'XFCE' thing.
[11:02] <wgrant> That will give me a list of bugs in all the packages to which ~motuscience is subscribed.
[11:02] <wgrant> ('Bug supervisor', not 'Bug contact', sorry)
[11:03] <cwickert> wgrant: thanks for the link, the search form is much better than the one on the frontpage. I wonder why it is so well hidden?!
[11:03] <wgrant> cwickert: Well, you're really meant to start from the project/distro page (eg. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu) and go from there to the bugs page for the project.
[11:04] <cwickert> wgrant: but I don't know the name of Ubuntu's Xfce maintainer, so I have no idea who to search for
[11:04] <wgrant> cwickert: Whereas you've gone to https://bugs.launchpad.net/, which is less specific so is less useful.
[11:05] <cwickert> wgrant: ok, I surf to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu but I still don't see a link to the form you showed me
[11:05] <wgrant> cwickert: 'Advanced search'
[11:05] <cwickert> wgrant: sorrym my bad
[11:06] <wgrant> It is less obvious than it used to be.
[11:06] <wgrant> It used to be immediately to the left of the Search button
[11:06] <cwickert> wgrant: but the advanced search is useless if I don't know the name of the subscriber(s), right?
[11:07] <cwickert> wgrant: another (stupid) question: what's the use of having https://launchpad.net/xfce and https://launchpad.net/xfce-project in LP?
[11:08] <wgrant> cwickert: That's right. There is probably a team already. Hit 'Subscribe to bug mail' for a few packages and look at the list in the sidebar. See if there's a reasonable-looking team.
[11:08] <wgrant> cwickert: For linking Ubuntu bugs to upstream bugtrackers.
[11:09] <cwickert> wgrant: there hardly is any information on these pages, e.g. no link to bugzilla.xfce.org
[11:10] <cwickert> wgrant: but at least ti gives me the name of the team: xubuntu-team
[11:16] <cwickert> wgrant: ok, not I search for the xubutu-team bugs and get 359 results. If I limit the query to Ubuntu 9.04 and 9.10 I get zero.
[11:16] <wgrant> cwickert: That's because bugs are only specifically marked as affecting a release if a post-release update is going to happen.
[11:16] <wgrant> (many Ubuntu developers feel that this is a bug in Launchpad)
[11:17] <cwickert> wgrant: so what would I do to get all Xfce 4.6 bugs? (4.6 was released with 9.04)
[11:17] <wgrant> cwickert: Panic.
[11:17] <wgrant> cwickert: It's not possible at this time.
[11:18] <cwickert> wgrant: great ;)
[11:18] <cwickert> wgrant: but thanks a million for your help
[11:18] <wgrant> cwickert: np
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[11:53] <al> hey, can someone here maybe fix the git branch at https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/quassel/trunk ? it seems to be affected by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-git/+bug/382609
[11:53] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 382609 in bzr-git "lp:~vcs-imports/empathy/master import failing" [High,Fix released]
[11:57] <intellectronica> al: can you please file a question. codehosting folks will be around later in the day, so they can have a look
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[12:02] <al> intellectronica: ok, did that. thanks
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[12:08] <yofel> hi, I frequently get 'Entity-body was not a well-formed JSON document.' when editing a bug description in firefox or epiphany, does anybody else get this?
[12:10] <Peng_> Yes, some people do. I forget the details, though.
[12:12] <Peng_> yofel: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/423924
[12:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 423924 in malone "Entity-body was not a well-formed JSON document when updating bug description" [High,In progress]
[12:12] <yofel> Peng_: thx
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[12:25] <lodder> why can't I change the expected date of a milestone?
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[13:13] <lodder> why can't I change the expected date of a milestone?
[13:17] <jml> lodder, I don't know.
[13:21] <MTecknology> lodder: edge?
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[13:34] <pmatulis> i am receiving bugmail for package 'ltsp (in ubuntu)'.  when i follow the bug link LP gives me the option to subscribe.  also, when i view all ltsp (in ubuntu) bugs in LP they are not the same as those in my inbox
[13:36] <pmatulis> k, looks like i'm getting notified and not due to subscription
[13:40] <pmatulis> not sure why i'm not being notified for all bugs
[13:44] <lodder> Why can't i change the expected released date of a milestone?
[13:44] <MTecknology> lodder: I think you asked that already..
[13:46] <MTecknology> lodder: was it maybe marked released?
[13:48] <lodder> MTecknology: yea but I lost connection
[13:48] <MTecknology> exit
[13:48] <lodder> no it isn't marked released
[13:49] <lodder> https://launchpad.net/time-drive/+milestone/0.3 --> I can't change the date excepected
[14:00] <intellectronica> pmatulis: are you subscribed as a member of a team?
[14:00] <intellectronica> pmatulis: which bug?
[14:00] <pmatulis> intellectronica: no, individual
[14:01] <intellectronica> pmatulis: what does the message header say?
[14:02] <pmatulis> intellectronica: for the mail i *am* getting?
[14:02] <intellectronica> pmatulis: yes
[14:03] <intellectronica> pmatulis: also, what bug #?
[14:03] <pmatulis> intellectronica: X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale: Subscriber (ltsp in ubuntu)
[14:03] <intellectronica> pmatulis: right, so you're subscribed to the package, not to the bug
[14:04] <pmatulis> intellectronica: but the bug says i'm a "notifieree" (terminology?)
[14:04] <MTecknology> lodder: sorry- interenet died here | I'd probably file a question about it at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad. If it's a bug they can change it into one with the needed details. Otherwise they should be able to tell you way.
[14:04] <pmatulis> intellectronica: that's ok, means i'll get all bugs right?
[14:05] <intellectronica> pmatulis: does it really say "notifieree"?!
[14:05] <pmatulis> intellectronica: no
[14:05] <pmatulis> intellectronica: just trying to find a term similar to "subscriber"
[14:05] <intellectronica> pmatulis: oh, you mean you're "also notified". yes, that's where you'll be if you're subscribed to the package
[14:06] <pmatulis> intellectronica: just don't understand why when i searched for all ltsp bugs i am not getting bugmail for them
[14:07] <pmatulis> intellectronica: however, i just became "also notified" for them too (again?)
[14:07] <intellectronica> pmatulis: can you please give me some example bug numbers?
[14:07] <pmatulis> intellectronica: one moment
[14:07] <intellectronica> pmatulis: if you're subscribed to the package you'll be "also notified" for all bugs in that package
[14:07] <pmatulis> intellectronica: that's what's bugging (!) me b/c it doesn't seems to be happening
[14:08] <pmatulis> intellectronica: one moment
[14:09] <intellectronica> pmatulis: so basically what you're saying is that you're subscribed to the package but you're not getting as much email as you'd expected?
[14:10] <pmatulis> intellectronica: yes.  it sounds like there may be 2 packages here...
[14:10] <pmatulis> intellectronica: but i can't find out how
[14:10] <intellectronica> pmatulis: i don't understand
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[14:13] <pmatulis> intellectronica: ok, i am here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp
[14:13] <pmatulis> intellectronica: why does it offer "Subscribe to bug mail"?
[14:14] <pmatulis> intellectronica: when i have already done so?  is that just a UI bug?
[14:14] <intellectronica> pmatulis: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/419965 :)
[14:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 419965 in malone "Project bugs page "Subscribe" link has inappropriate edit icon" [Low,Triaged]
[14:14] <intellectronica> it is indeed a UI bug. i'll try to fix it later today
[14:14] <pmatulis> ah
[14:14] <pmatulis> ok
[14:15] <pmatulis> my other troubles were due to the fact that i was mixing up subscribe and notified, as well as not properly filtering the bugs (i wasn't seeing everything)
[14:15] <intellectronica> pmatulis: though the proposed fix, i'm now worried, might not be good enough. in your situation, you'd get exactly the same ui, which i understand is confusing
[14:16] <intellectronica> pmatulis: maybe something like "Edit your subscription" will be more appropriate?
[14:17] <pmatulis> intellectronica: the two methods should be clearer and not seen as 2 unrelated options
[14:17] <intellectronica> pmatulis: i don't understand. what two methods?
[14:18] <pmatulis> intellectronica: mail due to bug subscription and mail due to package subscription
[14:19] <intellectronica> pmatulis: they are distinct in the headers, and you appear in a different place on the bug itself. how else do you think we should distinguish them?
[14:21] <pmatulis> intellectronica: in the UI i mean.  if sub to package, in "all bugs" page: "You are subscribed to bug mail", if sub to bug, in "individual bug" page it should say the same thing
[14:23] <intellectronica> pmatulis: the problem is that you can be subscribed indirectly, through teams and through the distribution, and you can edit these subscription. that makes it a bit more complicatedto come up with a good description
[14:24] <pmatulis> intellectronica: don't see why, it all comes down to your ID
[14:25] <intellectronica> pmatulis: right, but the actions you can take are varied. you can subscribe or unsubscribe yourself, or one of the teams you're in
[14:26] <pmatulis> intellectronica: ok, i guess i see it different as a regular user
[14:28] <intellectronica> pmatulis: but the fact that it's complicated doesn't mean that we shouldn't come up with a better UI. i think there's a lot of confusion around that, so i am very eager to hear ideas, or even just critique
[14:29] <pmatulis> intellectronica: well i gave my 2 cents: let the user know what the score is near the top of a page
[14:29] <intellectronica> pmatulis: thanks. i think this is a really good idea
[14:30] <pmatulis> intellectronica: btw, is it possible to subscribe to a bug as well as the corresponding package?  with the UI let you?
[14:31] <intellectronica> pmatulis: yes it is (and if you then cancel one of the subscriptions the other will remain)
[14:32] <pmatulis> intellectronica: do you get 2 emails for every bug event?
[14:32] <intellectronica> pmatulis: no, you only get one
[14:33] <pmatulis> intellectronica: maybe the user should be alerted: "Hey dude!  You're already subscribed to bugmail for package foo.  Proceed anyway to subscribe to this bug?"
[14:35] <intellectronica> pmatulis: hmmmm ... i'm not sure, that could be pretty annoying to users who are doing this intentionally, and there's no harm if you do it unintentionally (well, there is a bit if you the unsubscribe and don't understand why you're still getting email, but nothing more)
[14:36] <pmatulis> intellectronica: it doesn't have to be as longwinded as i stated, not sure why that would be very annoying
[14:37] <intellectronica> pmatulis: maybe if we put it in the subscribe box as a message, but not require confirmation? i think that's a nice way to handle that because it's informative but not intrusive
[14:39] <pmatulis> intellectronica: sure
[14:39] <pmatulis> intellectronica: in a user's profile does it state what packages are subscribed to?  if not, that would be nice
[14:40] <intellectronica> pmatulis: no, there's no place to see all your subscriptions. i agree that would make working with subscriptions much easier
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[15:04] <liw> when bugs in LP are linked to upstream bug trackers, should LP report their bug statuses? I don't think it is working in all cases
[15:04] <beuno> liw, I think LP does when there are equivalents
[15:04] <liw> LP: #203157 (to Debian) and LP: #160996 (GNOME) for example
[15:04] <beuno> that said, gmb is the resident expert
[15:05] <liw> the Debian bug is closed, LP claims it's confirmed
[15:05] <beuno> maybe bug watches aren't managing to keep up
[15:05]  * beuno waits for someone from the bugs team to look
[15:06] <beuno> deryck?
[15:06] <deryck> beuno, oddly someone else was just asking me about this.  checking on things now.
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[15:12] <gmb> liw, beuno, deryck: This is bug 383467.
[15:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 383467 in malone "BugWatch updates on bug trackers with large numbers of watches fall behind quickly" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383467
[15:13] <gmb> The Gnome ones should be sorted out today (new code and we're going to update all 13,000+ of them)
[15:13] <gmb> The debbugs ones I'm not so sure about, but haven't really had time to investigate yet.
[15:14] <lodder> MTecknology: ok i'll ask the question
[15:15] <liw> gmb, ok, it's being taken care of, thanks
[15:18] <lodder> MTecknology: where should I ask the question?
[15:18] <MTecknology> lodder: that link I gave you
[15:20] <lodder> MTecknology: could you please resend the link I don't see it
[15:20] <MTecknology> lodder: answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[15:21] <lodder> MTecknology: thx
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[15:44] <slacker_nl> hello
[15:44] <slacker_nl> could it be possible to create a bug directly via launchpad instead of redirecting me to a wiki page?!?
[15:44] <Peng_> What?
[15:45] <jamalta> slacker_nl: where are you trying to create a bug from?
[15:45] <slacker_nl> jamalta: lp itself
[15:45] <slacker_nl> i'm logged in, at the debian installer section, report a bug > redirects me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[15:45] <pmatulis> slacker_nl: use the ubuntu-bug utility
[15:46] <slacker_nl> pmatulis: i'm not on ubuntu atm
[15:46] <pmatulis> slacker_nl: ah, great point
[15:46] <slacker_nl> not really user friendly if i might add
[15:47] <pmatulis> $ ubuntu-bug ubuntu-bug ?
[15:47] <slacker_nl> lol
[15:47] <slacker_nl> i don't mind pushing people to apport, but I would like to be able to report bug the old fashioned way too
[15:49] <maxb> slacker_nl: Yeah, it's annoying and overly heavy handed :-(
[15:49] <maxb> You can bypass it by appending ?no-redirect to the URL
[15:49] <slacker_nl> maxb: i just figured that out
[15:49] <slacker_nl> thnx though :)
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[16:45] <mok0> Is there a bzr command that just prints out the current revno?
[16:45] <Peng_> mok0: "bzr revno".
[16:45] <mok0> Peng, thanks (d'Oh!)
[16:45] <Peng_> :D
[16:46] <mok0> hehe
[16:47] <mok0> Peng_: there is no other way to get the revno into a file is there? I am thinking of something like CVS'es $Id:$ expansion
[16:47] <Peng_> mok0: I don't know what the status of keyword expansion is.
[16:48] <mok0> Peng_: I think many consider it A Bad Thing
[16:48] <Peng_> mok0: Indeed. Partially as an excuse for not supporting it. :P
[16:49] <mok0> Peng_, but I think it may be useful to include the revno as a string into the app
[16:49] <Peng_> mok0: http://bazaar-vcs.org/KeywordExpansion for one.
[16:49]  * Peng_ points to #bzr
[16:49]  * mok0 looks
[16:49] <mok0> thanks, Peng_
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[17:03] <menesis> can I ask here for translation import to be reviewed, or do I have to file a question on rosetta?
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[17:52] <rsalveti> hi, I'm trying to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~malept/bzr-gentoo-overlay/overlay-main branch, but launchpad says that's updating it, but the last time it was trying to update was actually 2 days ago
[17:53] <rsalveti> probably something wrong happened, but how to identify/report that?
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[18:39] <pmatulis> how does one check if a PPA is available for a certain package?
[18:42] <mneptok> pmatulis: search LP?
[18:42] <pmatulis> mneptok: ha ha
[18:44] <pmatulis> mneptok: k, found a link
[18:44] <james_w> pmatulis: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[18:44] <james_w> the search there should work
[18:44] <pmatulis> james_w: thank you
[18:47] <virtuald> is there an irc bot that can search launchpad bugs?
[18:49] <virtuald> i know very little perl, python and tcl so i don't really know where to start.
[19:53] <arand> I was doing the survey on comprehesibilty of launchpad icons, and I find the survey rather incomprehensible... The first question highlights a section, not an icon...
[19:59] <beuno> arand, good point
[20:00] <beuno> the icon is on the right of the section
[20:00] <beuno> but it'
[20:00] <beuno> it's a good observation that the icon isn't very obvious  :)
[20:00] <beuno> oh, and thanks for taking the survey  :)
[20:03] <arand> Indeed, I was struggiling quite a while, before deciding with 70% certainty that "icon" meant the tiny image and not the "item visual representation" of everything that was highlighted  (40%) :D
[20:04] <beuno> arand, that is the feedback we're after!
[20:24] <geser> kfogel: I don't want to sound impatient, but it would be really cool to see the toc on https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/ in a not too distant future. do you have any info when the change will land there?
[20:25] <kfogel> geser: hmmm.  No -- I thought it would be deployed already, but for some reason it's not.  It's landed in trunk.  Want to just post on launchpad-dev {_AT_} lists.launchpad.net and ask?
[20:26] <geser> kfogel: will do
[20:26] <kfogel> geser: I'll watch for it -- I'm curious too!
[20:46] <arand> beuno: That survey was quite interesting, truns out my guesses for the box&cog were both wrong, dispite having used launchpad a few years. Also, it is only now I've relised that the edit icon is in fact a pencil and not an exclamation mark, which I've always identified it as (and been somewhat puzzled by)
[20:47] <beuno> arand, you'd be surprised how many people have said the same thing about the edit icon
[20:47] <beuno> we're still processing the results, but we'll publish them as soon as we do
[20:47] <beuno> (and change icons accordingly)
[20:48] <maxb> huh. I've never thought it anything but a pencil
[20:48] <maxb> Where is this survey, btw?
[20:49] <beuno> maxb, http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=8hXmjrmFS7TmQCjh7jJB_2bQ_3d_3d
[20:49] <beuno> that's the second pass
[20:49] <beuno> the first one we've already closed
[20:50] <maxb> that one's also closed :-)
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[20:56] <arand> maxb: http://blog.launchpad.net/ < last post contains last survey, was open just 10 min ago...
[21:02] <maxb> This survey is ridiculous
[21:03] <maxb> Anyone who is a moderately competent Launchpad user is disbarred from participating because the survey calls for mandatory confusion
[21:11] <jamalta> more surveys!
[21:11] <jamalta> oh wait, i already did that one... oops
[21:14]  * maxb has responded "foo" "bar" and "baz" a lot
[21:15] <maxb> People designing surveys should pay more attention to whether their users will have anything relevant to put in all the boxes before insisting they all be filled in
[21:16] <cody-somerville> What would cause 'lazr.restfulclient.errors.HTTPError: HTTP Error 503: Service Unavailable' from launchpadlib?
[21:16] <maxb> I am distressed that the future UI of Launchpad is being determined to any extent by a survey which has managed to so thoroughly earn my disdain
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[21:26] <Ursinha-afk> hi rockstar :) are you there by chance?
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[21:27] <rockstar> Ursinha, yes, I am indeed here.  What's up?
[21:27] <Ursinha> rockstar, do you know what can be causing this branch to fail mirroring: https://code.launchpad.net/~malept/bzr-gentoo-overlay/overlay-main
[21:27] <Ursinha> rockstar, I mean, where can I see the traceback or something when a problem like this happens?
[21:28] <PsyberS> how do i get the commit messages to link to my lp user page? for example these are not linked -> https://code.launchpad.net/~do-plugins/do-plugins/nmdocklet
[21:29] <PsyberS> (i have already done 'bzr lp-login' on each machine)
[21:29] <Ursinha> PsyberS, you have to set your username using bzr whoami
[21:29] <Ursinha> is that set correctly?
[21:30] <rockstar> PsyberS, bzr whoami
[21:30] <PsyberS> so just 'bzr whoami user'?
[21:30] <rockstar> Ursinha, I think all the information you need is there.  The user changed the http configuration and broke the branch.
[21:31] <Ursinha> ouch
[21:31]  * Ursinha looks
[21:31] <rockstar> PsyberS, `bzr whoami "Your Fullname <your@emailaddress.com>"
[21:31] <Ursinha> rockstar, how do you know that?
[21:32] <rockstar> Ursinha, actually, um, I'm not sure that's it, but that's what it kinda looks like.  "An attempt to access a url outside the server jail was made:"
[21:32] <rockstar> Ursinha, also, this probably should take place in #launchpad-dev
[21:35] <Ursinha> rsalveti, ^
[21:38] <PsyberS> Ursinha, rockstar: awesome thanks, that fixed it up :)
[21:39] <Ursinha> PsyberS, great :)
[21:39] <PsyberS> probably no way to fix old commits though is there?
[21:40] <rockstar> PsyberS, nope, not really.
[21:40] <PsyberS> ah well, people will figure it out if needed :)
[21:46] <mwhudson> rockstar, Ursinha: i think that error means a badly configured bzr+http server
[21:59] <lifeless> rockstar: mwhudson: there were a release or two where the http bzr server was bust
[22:00] <mwhudson> i thought the message was somewhat familiar
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[22:33] <wgrant> cody-somerville: A timeout, generally.
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[23:24] <fale> hi
[23:24] <fale> I would like to report a bug... but now is a very difficult procedure... is there an easy way to do so?
[23:30] <wgrant> fale: What's difficult about it?
[23:31] <fale> wgrant: disappeard the way to do it directly from launchpad..
[23:32] <wgrant> fale: The wiki page describes several easy ways to do it.
[23:32] <wgrant> fale: Does "Help » Report a problem" not work?
[23:32] <fale> wgrant: mmm I think the easyest way was the only one removed -.-
[23:33] <wgrant> fale: Perhaps a click or two easier for you, but the information that the other methods add makes the developers' and triagers' lives much easier.
[23:34] <wgrant> You say, however, that it is "very difficult." I don't see how that is the case.
[23:34] <fale> because I'm submitting a patch for a program that I don't have actually installed
[23:34] <wgrant> Ah, that is one case in which it falls down.
[23:35] <wgrant> Look down the bottom of the wiki page for a direct link to the bug filing form.
[23:35] <wgrant> Or add ?no-redirect to the end of the +filebug URL.
[23:35] <fale> wgrant: :) thankyou :)
[23:35] <wgrant> fale: np
[23:36] <micahg> wgrant: that's not the prefered way
[23:36] <wgrant> micahg: What isn't, and why?
[23:36] <micahg> ah
[23:36] <micahg> nm
[23:36] <micahg> just read the whole thing
[23:36] <wgrant> Phew.
[23:37] <micahg> actually, still, it's probably better to do ubuntu-bug PKGNAME
[23:38] <micahg> it works even if it's not installed
[23:38] <wgrant> micahg: Debatable.
[23:38] <micahg> so users get in the habit
[23:38] <fale> micahg: didn't know that... than I may use it :)
[23:39] <micahg> fale: also saves you the trouble of hunting for the source package
[23:40] <fale> :)
[23:55] <bdmurray> Has anybody ever used component with searchTasks in the API?
[23:55] <wgrant> bdmurray: IIRC it doesn't work. Let me check the code.
[23:56] <wgrant> I think I remember attempting to fix it at one point.