| knome | hey! is there any way to make the handling of dual monitors in gdm better? one image streched to fill two monitors doesn't exactly look good... | 05:24 |
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| zniavre | http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2623/captureyf.png > there is a way to seperate the both treeview rule for sidepanel en regular treeview ? | 07:48 |
| zniavre | Hello / Bonjour sorry) | 07:48 |
| zniavre | en > and * | 07:49 |
| mac_v | thorwil: hi... i cant seem to find your scrollbar idea url... could you link me? i'm thinking of asking Software center to use that idea :) | 08:09 |
| thorwil | mac_v: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/popup-scrollbar-concept-demo/ | 08:10 |
| mac_v | thorwil: awesome .. thanks :) | 08:10 |
| mac_v | thorwil: folks seem to love it! damn, i didnt get this idea earlier :/ since its late for Karmic... they might consider it for a future version | 08:18 |
| zniavre_ | that s true it's nice | 08:19 |
| thorwil | mac_v: so far it were never the right people who love it. as in: those who could make it happen ;) | 08:19 |
| zniavre_ | :o) | 08:20 |
| mac_v | thorwil: hehe , yeah... mvo the main maintainer likes it... just need to now convince mpt as soon as i find him ;) | 08:20 |
| thorwil | btw, if someone here feels like having fun with python, there's a still incomplete demo script ... | 08:20 |
| thorwil | mac_v: mpt is among the skeptics. i think you would not do that anyway, but to be sure: don't even think of calling it intuitive ;) | 08:22 |
| mac_v | lol | 08:22 |
| * thorwil received some real money via paypal and now his account is frozen :/ | 08:23 | |
| mac_v | argh! lucid is going to be LTS , so it would be even harder to convince mpt :/ since he's already a skeptic... | 08:26 |
| mac_v | i thought we could use software center as a testing ground to push this idea into gnome3 | 08:27 |
| thorwil | mac_v: try it. you could suggest that they do user testing at canonical ... :) | 08:28 |
| mac_v | thorwil: yeah... i'll find the right time and pick on mpt ;p ... already there are a few suggestions to improve it , i think making it better and then presenting it would be ideal | 08:30 |
| mac_v | ex: <Amaranth> Then just fix it up to implement the current scrollbar API perfectly, be accessible, and implement a couple of the changes mentioned in the bug report (single click jumps a page, don't make the arrows disappear if you move your mouse off the scrollbar for a second) | 08:30 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 08:32 |
| AlanBell | I am looking for some help re-designing a logo, not entirely sure this is the best place to ask, feel free to point me in another direction if not. | 08:32 |
| thorwil | mac_v: except for "implementing the API", almost done. but it got a bit of a mess when i added a horizontal version | 08:32 |
| mac_v | thorwil: then you should update the video too , with the current version | 08:33 |
| AlanBell | The logo is for the http://nakedcomputers.org site which promotes vendors who will sell a computer without an operating system, a contribution towards a fix for bug 1 | 08:33 |
| ubottu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout) | 08:33 |
| AlanBell | the current logo is a rotated 3 on a keycap. In the right light this kind of resembles a bottom, which is a bit cheeky | 08:34 |
| AlanBell | that is fine, however some people look at it and see boobs, which is not gender neutral and causes offense | 08:34 |
| AlanBell | any tips on how to make it not offensive, or any suggestions for a total redesign would be appreciated | 08:35 |
| mac_v | AlanBell: why did you use 3 in the logo? | 08:35 |
| AlanBell | mac_v: because I can't draw, and it is a mash up of free as in freedom elements | 08:36 |
| thorwil | mac_v: because it looks like ass! ^^ | 08:36 |
| AlanBell | 3 because it is the glyph from a free font that looked most like a bottom to me | 08:36 |
| AlanBell | the FAQ states "It is the bottom half of a 3 from the DejaVu Sans font rotated 90 degrees and mirrored. This is then placed on a keycap image from the Nuvola icon set designed by David Vignoni. Anything you see other than a rotated 3 is all in your head." | 08:37 |
| mac_v | lol ;) | 08:37 |
| thorwil | AlanBell: you could try to express that it's about having just the "core" without addition | 08:37 |
| thorwil | or actually: an empty shell | 08:38 |
| AlanBell | thorwil: ok, good sugestion, but there are problems with going in an apple direction in this context | 08:38 |
| AlanBell | empty shell is interesting | 08:39 |
| * AlanBell keeps chickens | 08:39 | |
| AlanBell | it might be a bit negative though. I want to promote naked computers as a good thing, an empty shell doesn't sound like a positive image, but there might be a way to do it | 08:40 |
| thorwil | something ridiculously simple like a filled circle with a dotted outline around it might work | 08:40 |
| AlanBell | I like ridiculously simple | 08:41 |
| thorwil | or something bowl-like http://www.der-feine-tisch.de/images/Bowl.jpg | 08:41 |
| mac_v | AlanBell: out of the concept a bit > hmm... peace symbol or the olive branch ? | 08:42 |
| mac_v | in the key | 08:42 |
| mac_v | AlanBell: or we could just make the color version of the bottom ;) | 08:43 |
| AlanBell | we were working on a new theme for it and tried to modify the existing logo a bit, but it looks rubbish | 08:43 |
| AlanBell | http://lordies.co.uk/naked/ | 08:43 |
| thorwil | a fig leave? http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/17540.jpg | 08:44 |
| AlanBell | mac_v: interesting thought. Using color could make it more bottomish and less boobish? | 08:44 |
| mac_v | yup | 08:44 |
| AlanBell | thorwil: lol | 08:44 |
| thorwil | i don't think you can use color for bottom/boob differentiation ... excpet if you start to add some blue veins :) | 08:45 |
| mac_v | AlanBell: that way , it wont be confused as boobs and you dont have to change your logo a lot | 08:45 |
| thorwil | i think you should stay away from body parts | 08:46 |
| mac_v | thorwil: if we extend the bottom a bit above to include the back? | 08:46 |
| mac_v | so it becomes clearer as a bottom | 08:46 |
| mac_v | upto the small of the back | 08:46 |
| mac_v | http://img2.photographersdirect.com/img/19309/wm/pd2128909.jpg | 08:50 |
| AlanBell | maybe some kind of abstract line drawing representation of that sort of pose would work | 08:58 |
| AlanBell | don't think I have the skills to do that though | 08:59 |
| thorwil | i have but i don't think it's appropriate at all | 08:59 |
| AlanBell | it gets a bit too explicit really | 09:02 |
| AlanBell | I kind of like the way the current one is quite abstract and just points the mind in a direction | 09:03 |
| AlanBell | just too many minds went in an unexpected direction | 09:04 |
| mac_v | lol , | 09:04 |
| AlanBell | who would have thought that bums and boobs could look so similar! | 09:04 |
| mac_v | AlanBell: then you can just modify this icon a bit http://lordies.co.uk/naked/ to add the small of the back | 09:04 |
| AlanBell | mac_v: just tried that. Turns out looking like another unfortunate body part :-( | 09:13 |
| mac_v | AlanBell: do you have the icon ? i could give it a shot ;) | 09:13 |
| * mac_v brb | 09:14 | |
| thorwil | AlanBell: not sure what to think of it myself: http://xs344.xs.to/xs344/09411/naked_computers409.png | 09:32 |
| AlanBell | http://nakedcomputers.org/bums.svg is our attempted new logo, the bits for the existing one I don't have as svg, it was just done in the gimp | 09:33 |
| AlanBell | thorwil: hmm, quite abstract | 09:34 |
| FLOZz | Hello all _o/ | 11:06 |
| mac_v | re | 12:13 |
| dashua | zniavre, Pull again when you have some time. Many fixes, just not Firefox yet =/ | 13:30 |
| dashua | http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/26568/screenshot_007_51pJF6.png | 13:32 |
| dashua | zniavre, The only fix for Firefox seems to have a dark menu_bg | 14:03 |
| dashua | http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/26574/screenshot_lQik0J.png | 14:11 |
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| zniavre__ | dashua, http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5833/captureee.png | 15:56 |
| dashua | zniavre, Damn. Alright. I'll have to tweak it just a bit more. Thx. | 16:04 |
| zniavre__ | it make more yellow but it's a workaround | 16:06 |
| zniavre__ | i saw also in gdm an issue with font color and button on the gdmbar in the bottom | 16:07 |
| zniavre__ | i hav to reinstall a vbox karmic to screenshot gdm | 16:08 |
| zniavre__ | dashua, maybe do you know the way to do the progressbar yellow ? | 16:18 |
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| zniavre__ | dashua buttons also in the new ubuntu store are wrong | 16:35 |
| mac_v | kwwii: mat_t: Bug #443163 | 17:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 443163 in human-theme "Replace computer with white Ubuntu logo on GDM screen" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/443163 | 17:05 |
| mat_t | mac_v: yeah, already in the works | 17:06 |
| mac_v | \o/ | 17:06 |
| tgpraveen | mac_v: why should their be anything at all? in the mockups with no image it looks beautiful | 17:18 |
| tgpraveen | + the white ubuntu logo is already used in the | 17:19 |
| tgpraveen | bootup | 17:19 |
| mac_v | tgpraveen: huh? | 17:19 |
| tgpraveen | so using it again ... | 17:19 |
| tgpraveen | about ^^ Bug #443163 | 17:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 443163 in human-theme "Replace computer with white Ubuntu logo on GDM screen" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/443163 | 17:19 |
| mac_v | tgpraveen: pls read my comment again ;) | 17:19 |
| tgpraveen | k. 1 sec | 17:20 |
| mac_v | tgpraveen: i'v also said to *not* use the icon as in the mockups | 17:21 |
| mac_v | tgpraveen: BTW, you could have invalidated the -UNR and -Dark bugs :/ | 17:22 |
| tgpraveen | oh i hadnt reead the report when i said that good that all of us agree ;) | 17:22 |
| tgpraveen | :) | 17:22 |
| tgpraveen | mac_v: oh invalidate i though u did that when u talked to me about that | 17:23 |
| tgpraveen | lemme do it now | 17:23 |
| mac_v | tgpraveen: too late ;p | 17:23 |
| mac_v | tgpraveen: waited half hr for you to do it ;p | 17:24 |
| tgpraveen | mac_v: ok.good work. will keep in mind in future | 17:24 |
| zniavre__ | dashua can i keep your theme ? i m starting to like the color schemas | 20:11 |
| SiDi | kwwii: if you open firefox, type w/e in the url bar, there'll be a menu popping up with some suggestions from your history, made of entries consisting of a name in @text_color and an uri in blue | 22:28 |
| SiDi | if you wanna customize that blue (actually the one of default links on the web), you can via GtkWidget::link-color = "#foo" | 22:28 |
| Abooood | hey guys, I am a fan of windows style but ubuntu ( linux) lover so any ideas? | 22:46 |
| Viper550_ | that x-based splash = awsum | 23:44 |
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