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virtualdd- as in cd-rom? it's just another acronym nobody understands00:01
Picidisk-bus00:03
jdongdesktop bus.00:05
jdongor probably just the D bus these days00:05
chrisccoulsonjames_w - do the reporters get a dialog with what looks like a D-Bus error in them?00:07
lamontcjwatson: bug 442480 closed00:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 442480 in console-setup "Recent update to console-setup is causing packages to FTBFS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44248000:08
cjwatsonlamont: thanks00:13
lamontcjwatson: you OK with a mass-giveback?00:14
cjwatsonmass give-back as long as it's zero-score would be fine, I think. The queue was kinda long last I checked00:14
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lifelesswhat package should rfkill switch bugs be filed on? my D430 kill switch kills the bluetooth & wifi, but when the normal position is restored it doesn't re-enable them00:25
lifelessso, one needs to do "echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/devices/virtual/rfkill/rfkill1/state" which is a little kludgy00:26
ScottKlifeless: Works here (also D430)00:28
ScottKlifeless: 32 bit or 64 bit?00:28
lifelessScottK: 6400:28
superm1lifeless, there is a bug already opened on that00:28
ScottKHmmm.  I'm on 3200:28
lifelesssuperm1: ok, cool00:28
superm1it's a kernel bug against the dell-laptop kernel module00:28
lifelesssuperm1: for the record, where should I have looked?00:28
lifelesssuperm1: thanks00:28
superm1lifeless, bug 43080900:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 430809 in linux "[Dell Latitude D430, iwl3945] Wireless can't be activated after disabling kill switch" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43080900:31
lamontPreparing to replace texlive-latex-base 2007.dfsg.2-4ubuntu1 (using .../texlive-latex-base_2007.dfsg.2-4ubuntu1_all.deb) ...01:13
lamontReinstalling deleted mandatory conffile color.cfg01:13
lamontcp: cannot stat `/usr/share/texlive-base/color.cfg': No such file or directory01:13
lamontdpkg: error processing /srv/royal.buildd/home/buildd/build-karmic-autotest/chroot-karmic-autotest/var/cache/apt/archives/texlive-latex-base_2007.dfsg.2-4ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):01:13
lamont subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 101:13
lamontdear texlive.  DIEDIEDIE01:13
lamontwas that my outside voice?  sorry01:14
lamontmeh.  nm01:26
qw30Gnometris 2.28.0 is a PIECE OF SHIT!02:06
qw30it doesn't do SHIT02:07
Amaranth!ohmy02:08
ubottuPlease remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.02:08
qw30the game area02:09
qw30doesn't do02:09
qw30SHIT02:09
hyperairheh what's this about?02:10
qw30in the terminal I get02:10
qw30(gnometris:8489): ClutterGLX-CRITICAL **: Unable to make the stage window 0x4400042 the current GLX drawable02:10
qw30Does anyone know what this shit means?02:11
Kalifa'-'02:15
qw30OH BOB SAGET!02:16
jdongO_O02:21
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LaserJockso gwibber seems quite messed up these day :/02:50
LaserJockis it going to make it into the final release as default?02:50
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LaserJockand I'm not understanding the gwibber-daemon thing03:00
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superm1dtchen, when you get a min can you pop in #mythtv to chat a little about the current situation with pulseaudio w/ mythtv and karmic.  see http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythtv/libs/libmyth/audiopulseutil.cpp for what's currently being done about it04:09
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geofftany ~ubuntu-sru people here? I'm waiting for an SRU for... almost two months? :-(05:10
m4thi. im in the process of compiling an older cross compilation toolchain. several things fail with gcc-4, so i installed gcc-3.4 and have been passing it via CC=gcc-3.405:21
m4ti'm wondering though, if there is a way to manage symlinks in /usr/bin, eg, to have gcc point to 3.4 then be able to switch it back to 4.x05:22
m4tupdate-alternatives doesn't seem to recognize 3.4 as a provider of 'cc'05:22
geofftMine is a symlink to gcc-4.3 directly; it doesn't use update-alternatives (/etc/alternatives/gcc)05:23
geofftso I'd just change the symlink by hand.05:23
m4tactually you're right about it not using that05:23
m4ti forgot about the symlink chain that would point to an intermediate link in /etc05:23
somebody__Hi, is it possible to catch N-key rollovers and have them passed to an application?05:26
somebody__Please05:26
somebody__By the way05:26
somebody__Hello05:26
sharmssomebody__: wrong channel for that question, I would find a programming related channel05:32
somebody__They said in #perl that it depends on the OS's handling05:35
somebody__I've been to programming and back05:35
m4tcool wel the toolchain built05:36
m4tthanks05:36
jdongsomebody__: Ubuntu OS related questions still don't go here...05:36
jdongthis is for development OF Ubuntu, not ON Ubuntu or FOR Ubuntu05:37
somebody__I'm trying to add this application to my official stack for Ubuntu05:40
somebody__It will help the many that use Ubuntu05:40
jdongwell once you are ready to begin packaging of the software, #ubuntu-motu would be glad to help05:40
jdongbut this place is not the right place to ask Ubuntu related programming questions; the topic is for coordination of the development of ubuntu itself05:41
jdongdevelopers tend to read everything that's said in here and would appreciate a better signal to noise ratio05:41
somebody__For goodness sakes. The other channel is noisy and being of no help05:43
geofftbesides, people in here probably don't know as much about GUI stuff with perl as they do about systems programming :)05:43
somebody__Do you have any idea what kind of noise a screen reader can generate when in an IRC room05:43
somebody__?05:44
somebody__I am trying to improve Ubuntu as a whole for those in my comunity05:44
jdongthat isn't the topic of this channel either.05:45
somebody__Is that really a crime05:45
somebody__?05:45
ScottKsomebody__: It's not a crime, but trouble getting help elsewhere doesn't magically put your question on topic for this channel.05:45
somebody__Which channel is it on topic for then?05:47
somebody__I'm not here to cause trouble05:47
somebody__I've been Googling for some time now and this is my last resort05:48
somebody__If you have a lead for me to follow, by all means post it here05:48
nixternalsomebody__: I would look at handling via xorg input for the keyboard..also find the source for 'stickey support' in KDE as it has rollover stuff in there but I am sure is probably used via the Solid library for KDE...I don't know of any floss apps that support it to even look at...maybe find some old games that have since been open sourced that might have supported it...but ya, I have to agree a bit, this chan isn't best suited for this 05:52
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somebody__Thanks fo your help06:00
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dholbachgood morning07:09
dholbachslangasek: did you have a chance to check out the acpi-support sponsoring bugs?07:13
dholbach425155 and 43257807:15
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pittiGood morning07:26
stvopitti: good morning07:35
pittihey stvo07:36
pittikees: xsplash> yes, both you and lool ignored Vcs-Bzr:; I'm committing both of your changes now, but please do respect it in the future, otherwise we'll continue to drop patches07:41
pittikees: why is setresuid() any better than setuid()? I find the latter easier to use, and it should do the same for a root process07:47
dholbachwhat does the release team say about bug 44020307:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 440203 in onboard "Freeze Exc. Req. - New release - diff.gz supplied" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44020307:48
loolpitti: Yeah sorry, I realized there was one when kees mentionned it in a random other bug; I think I was too stressed by the beta critical issue and just uploaded07:48
pittidon't worry, committed now07:49
loolthanks07:50
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ebroderAnybody from ubuntu-sru around who could ACK bug #330766? It's affecting our site deployment, and we've already tested the fix08:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 330766 in pulseaudio "pulseaudio hangs, prevents login, home as ntfs" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33076608:23
hyperairhmm lyx seems to fail miserably with ibus08:37
hyperairat least, with ibus active, the open/save dialogs don't work08:37
al-maisanGood morning!08:42
chrisccoulsonhey dholbach - about bug 406077:08:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 406077 in gnome-python-extras "Should build gda module" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40607708:46
chrisccoulsoni've done a MIR already for this one - bug 43271508:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 432715 in libgda4 "[MIR] libgda4" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43271508:46
sianishi09:15
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dholbachchrisccoulson: ah ok09:42
dholbachchrisccoulson: I'll let seb128 decide :)09:42
dholbachor somebody else desktop-y09:42
seb128dholbach, what?09:42
seb128dholbach, ETOOMUCHTODO09:42
chrisccoulsondholbach - thanks:)09:42
dholbachseb128: python-gda built from gnome-python-extras09:42
* seb128 fighting over 1000 bug emails from the weekend09:43
seb128dholbach, I let you decide ;-)09:43
dholbachso glom can be built09:43
dholbachbah09:43
seb128what is to decide?09:43
seb128doit?09:43
dholbachyeah, doit probably09:43
dholbachI didn't review too closely09:43
seb128did anybody see bug #442348 before?09:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 442348 in gdm "GDM doesn't let live user (casper) entering live system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44234809:46
seb128dholbach, the changes looked fine to me when I reviewed those some days ago09:46
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darkhamplease change the splash...09:49
darkhami know you can do MUCH better...09:50
darkham:)09:50
Amaranthdarkham: Unless you have an alternative you want us to look at this is the wrong place09:56
dholbachbug-report-via-irc is not supported yet :)09:57
darkhamAmaranth, http://www.youtube.com/user/madsrosendahl#play/uploads/3/XlCVrtgxVcI09:59
darkhamplease contact him, they've many good ideas10:00
Amaranthdarkham: We don't know how long the boot will take so that animation is impossible10:00
Amaranthand way too over the top10:00
darkhamthe animation can't be in syncro withn boot?10:01
darkhamit can't be clocked?10:02
AnAntHello, I have a question about texlive10:23
AnAntI see ubuntu did a change to texlive-base10:23
AnAnthttp://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/t/texlive-base/texlive-base_2007.dfsg.2-4ubuntu1/changelog10:23
AnAntI suspect that Debian recently fixed this bug in texlive-bin instead: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/t/texlive-bin/texlive-bin_2007.dfsg.2-7/changelog10:23
AnAntthe bug is something to do with "5-years is too old"10:25
cjwatsonpresumably it's not that important exactly where it's fixed, and we can just resync in lucid?10:26
AnAntok10:27
AnAntanother thing, I filed a bug LP 43803110:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 438031 in texlive-bin "texlive-bin won't compile against libpoppler 0.12" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43803110:28
AnAntI suspect that luatex too won't compile against libpoppler 0.12, since it has the same problematic code portion that is in texlive-bin10:28
AnAntbut I didn't try yet10:29
pittiRiddell: can you ack/nack bug 442571?10:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 442571 in kipi-plugins "FFe for kipi-plugins 0.7.0" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44257110:43
RiddellI can, he's got another one coming up too10:44
AmaranthRiddell: So how many bug reports did you get about amarok not being installable? :)10:47
pittiKeybuk, cjwatson: does https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~tormodvolden/casper/inspect-dm/+merge/11423 look sensible to you? I'm afraid I don't know too much about the boot mount process to see possible regressions10:48
cjwatsonpitti: I was already in the middle of reviewing that10:48
pittinice timing, thanks10:48
ebroderCan someone from ubuntu-release look at bug #429445?10:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 429445 in zephyr "[Karmic FFe] Sync zephyr 3.0~rc.2544-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42944510:49
lucassiretart: gah, I meant ruby1.9, not 1.9.1...10:58
lucascould someone give-back ruby1.9 on i386? it failed in an unexpected way, and built fine everywhere else10:59
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pittilucas: done11:10
pittihi tkamppeter11:10
RiddellAmaranth: havn't noticed any, what's wrong with it?11:15
AmaranthRiddell: Last time I checked it depended on amarok-common which doesn't seem to exist11:16
tkamppeterpitti, hi11:18
AmaranthRiddell: weird, must have been an archive issue because the source package says it should exist and it does now without any changes to the package11:21
AmaranthBut all weekend people were popping into #ubuntu+1 asking about it11:21
cjwatsonmaybe it was in universe11:22
cjwatsonor maybe it was in the NEW queue11:22
cjwatsonthe latter's actually quite plausible - since it's an architecture: all binary package, non-i386 users would have seen amarok being uninstallable until amarok-common passed through NEW11:22
Amaranthcjwatson: That would be exactly it11:24
Riddellnothing new about it, probably amd64 buildds were ahead of i38611:24
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pittitkamppeter: did you recently see bug reports about graphics in PDF files not being printed? I just filed bug 443026, and wondered how widespread the regression is12:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443026 in cups "Does not print graphics in PDF documents; after pdf2ps it works" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44302612:27
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tkamppeterpitti, I see this for the first time now. The only way to discover what is happening is to run the filters one by one to find the culprit. PDF handling software seems to be EXTREMELY fragile and doing one change seems to introduce 20 regressions. Here a good regression testing infrastructure needs to be introduced.12:43
cjwatsonpitti: I can't seem to get the fix for bug 395079 working. I'm trying http://paste.ubuntu.com/286135/, but gnome-mount -o locale=en_GB.UTF-8 still seems to be just ignored; and I don't understand how volume.fstype.alternative gets used, given that in Ubuntu we want ntfs-3g to be the default NTFS implementation (indeed, it clearly is, by virtue of being /sbin/mount.ntfs)12:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 395079 in ntfs-3g "[KDE4][Karmic] Error mounting ntfs volume from dolphin's resources panel" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39507912:50
seb128hum, bug #44274212:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 442742 in language-pack-kde-es-base "Update of 20091003 have 15.4% of the translations from 20090926" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44274212:55
chrisccoulsoncjwatson - that won't work in karmic, as HAL doesn't do the mounting anymore12:55
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chrisccoulson1grrr, stupid 3g connection again12:57
chrisccoulson1cjwatson - there is also already a fdi file in the source, which i wrote last cycle - debian/25-ntfs-3g-policy.fdi13:01
chrisccoulson1it just isn't installed at the moment13:01
ionHi zul. Online?13:04
zulion: yes will get to your debdiff today13:04
ionzul: Alright :-)13:04
cjwatsonchrisccoulson1: whoops, so there is, but it doesn't use the new scheme pitti linked to13:05
cjwatsonoh, hmm13:05
cjwatsonI hate fdi files13:05
cjwatsonchrisccoulson1: so what's ntfs-3g supposed to do now? I'm thoroughly lost ...13:06
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chrisccoulson1cjwatson - me too. i'm not sure what happens in KDE now13:07
chrisccoulson1is it still using HAL for mounting?13:07
cjwatsonsearch me13:07
chrisccoulson1if all ubuntu flavours are using DK-disks, then the fdi file should not be needed13:07
chrisccoulson1it's not needed for ubuntu, but i really don't know about kubuntu13:08
cjwatsonwhere does dk-disks get its mount option lists?13:08
chrisccoulson1i hate fdi files too. HAL mounting is horrendously over-complicated ;)13:08
chrisccoulson1cjwatson - the mount options are currently hard-coded in dk-disks13:09
cjwatsonok13:09
cjwatsonRiddell: above conversation - can you shed any light?13:09
chrisccoulson1they're not configurable yet, so if the mount options are wrong, you'll need to patch dk-disks13:09
cjwatsonlocale= will deal with 90% of the complaints13:11
RiddellKDE isn't using devicekit13:11
Riddellit's still using HAL13:11
chrisccoulson1ah, so it defaintely needs a fdi file then13:11
chrisccoulson1s/defaintely/definately13:12
cjwatsonchrisccoulson1: so if I just revert your ntfs-3g change that stopped installing the fdi file, that should be good enough and won't break gnome?13:13
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chrisccoulson1cjwatson - possibly. it shouldn't have any effect in gnome, as we're not using HAL for that anymore13:14
cjwatsonI think at this point that stands a good chance of making it Somebody Else's Problem which will make me happy. :)13:17
pittire13:18
pitticjwatson, chrisccoulson1: KDE still uses hal for mounting, through solid13:19
pitticjwatson: GNOME does not use hal at all any more, so changing FDI files is fine from Ubuntu's perspective13:21
pittichrisccoulson1 already said that, sorry13:21
simon-ojames_w: Hi, is there anything I can do to get bug 428254 sponsored?13:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 428254 in powertop "powertop crashed with SIGSEGV in strstr()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42825413:37
liwI'm worried about two seemingly random crashes within the Python interpreter with computer-janitor, bug 420307 and bug 435580 -- any suggestions? ideas?13:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 420307 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_set_geometry_hints()" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42030713:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 435580 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in realloc()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43558013:38
tseliotKeybuk: any ideas on bug #439138 ?14:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 439138 in xorg-server "[karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43913814:10
tseliotKeybuk: strace reports repeated (failing) calls to ioctl(5, TCFLSH, 0x2) = -1 EIO (Input/output error) where fd 5 is /dev/tty7.14:10
james_wsimon-o: I'll get to it14:13
james_wsimon-o: sorry for the delay14:13
ebroderCan anybody from ubuntu-release look at bug #429445?14:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 429445 in zephyr "[Karmic FFe] Sync zephyr 3.0~rc.2544-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42944514:14
simon-ojames_w: thanks. I wasn't sure if there was something missing from me.14:14
pittiebroder: you're better off with just subscribing u-r to the bug14:19
tkamppeterpitti, did you see my last message and my comment on bug 443026?14:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443026 in cups "Does not print graphics in PDF documents; after pdf2ps it works" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44302614:32
pittitkamppeter: is there a way to display a cups raster file?14:39
pittitkamppeter: would it help if I revert cups/evince/splix/gs to the jaunty version and see in which particular package the regression is?14:39
doko_seb128: did you see this python2.6 error "error writing to ..." yourself?14:43
seb128doko_, no14:43
ttxkirkland, nurmi: ok, I'll file bugs for the issues I found and comment on the already-filed14:51
kirklandttx: cool14:51
nurmigreat14:51
tkamppeterpitti, CUPS Raster files can be visualized with RasterView: http://www.easysw.com/~mike/rasterview/index.html14:53
pittinice, thanks14:54
pittitkamppeter: that saves a lot of paper :-)14:54
tkamppeterI cannot imagine that SpliX is the culprit, if the rasterization by pdftoraster conserves the drawing, SpliX, which converts CUPS Raster to the printer's raster format should not loose the drawing.14:55
pittitkamppeter: so it seems it's most likely an evince bug?14:56
tkamppeterOnly filters which can loose the drawing are pdftopdf and pdftoraster.14:58
nurmidustin,ttx: can we work with revno 911 today (i.e. use a package based on r911)?14:59
tkamppeterpitti, for me it really looks more like an evince problem, as Ghostscript and my PDF printers have problems wityh the file.14:59
ttxnurmi: would that one fix the DB borkage issue ?14:59
nurmidustin,ttx: there was a problem with database startup < 911, introduced by an SSL database connection fix15:00
nurmittx: i believe so, yes15:00
ttxkirkland: could you update your merge to that version, and publish in PPA ?15:00
kirklandnurmi: are you working on this credentials lost fix?15:00
kirklandttx: i can do that; i'll also try to fix the orig.tar.gz too15:01
nurmitrying to reproduce15:01
tkamppeterpitti, another problem is that from the PDF of evince the filters are not able to produce a PostScript which PostScript printers understand, see bug 419143. The PostScript files get embedded fonts which the printers cannot parse.15:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 419143 in evince "Printing from evince (and perhaps other GTK apps) to PostScript printers is broken" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41914315:01
kirklandnurmi: you're trying to reproduce this credentials issue?15:01
nurmikirkland: yes15:01
kirklandnurmi: cool15:01
kirklandnurmi: i'll cherrypick that one, once you have something for me15:02
kirklandnurmi: ttx: i need to reboot and make a pot of coffee before i tackle this new merge; give me 15 minutes15:02
ttxsure15:02
* kirkland reboots15:02
nurmikirkland: same here (coffe, at least :)15:02
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ttxnurmi, kirkland: DB borkage on upgrade issue is bug 44312515:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443125 in eucalyptus "Upgrade to r908 loses admin credentials" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44312515:13
ttxnurmi, kirkland: No autoregistration if first startup is at boot-time is bug 44311815:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443118 in eucalyptus "No autoregistration on first startup after ISO install" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44311815:13
jcastrohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep <-- still looking for speakers for openweek!15:14
ttx+ I added a comment about the 16-minute timeout on bug 43925115:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 439251 in eucalyptus "Eucalyptus restart is needed after autoregistration of components" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43925115:14
ttxnurmi: which ones of these should a merge at level 911 fix ? just 439251 ? or also 443125 ?15:15
nurmittx: i havn't been able to reproduce 443125 yet, and so i'm not sure what is going wrong15:16
nurmittx: however, it should fix 43925115:17
ttxanyone: what would be the right way to specify that an upstart script should start when all networking is up and running ? I don't mind if it starts after everything else.15:17
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ScottKlamont: Was libmaven-clean-plugin-java on your maven bootstrapping list?  I have users screaming the world as we know it will end if maven doesn't get updated and we need that one.15:22
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dholbachuery pitti15:28
simon-oScottK: If you need help on the Maven update, just ping me. I use Maven fairly often.15:30
slacker_nlhello, against which package do I need to report a bug for packages installed by the minimal installation CD?15:30
ScottKsimon-o: The biggest problem is the manual bootstrapping.  Because we don't allow binary uploads like Debian does, it's more complex for us.15:31
pitti/msg dholbach thanks for that s3kr1t information!15:31
ScottKMostly just waiting for lamont15:31
kirklandnurmi: ttx: okay, i'm redoing the merge now15:32
kirklandnurmi: ttx: let's make sure that we resolve the two conflicts properly15:32
kirklandhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/286252/15:32
kirklandhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/286253/15:32
kirklandnurmi: ttx: for http://paste.ubuntu.com/286252/, i'm going to take upstream's change15:33
kirklandnurmi: ttx: ie, the second stanza in the conflict15:33
kirklandnurmi: ttx: agreed?15:33
seb128mdke, hey15:33
seb128mdke, got a minute to discuss menu items naming?15:33
ttxkirkland: sounds sane15:34
nurmikirkland: nod15:34
kirklandnurmi: ttx: and http://paste.ubuntu.com/286253/ ?15:35
nurmikirkland: in the eucalyptus-cc.in diff, we want the 'sed' line that has 'ThreadsPerChild 1', but the preseed stuff should also remain15:36
ttxfirst line of MERGESOURCE and the rest of TREE15:36
nurmittx: nod15:36
kirklandttx: nurmi: ack15:36
ttxkirkland: also see my remark about the boot-order patch15:37
ttxnurmi: would upgrading from 854 need to rebuild to wsdl stubs ?15:37
kirklandttx: nurmi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/286256/15:37
rcaskeyhey all, any tips for a gnome-session that does not run metacity, gnome-panel, or fail in any obvious way? I'm wondering if the root cause is perhaps gnome-settings-daemon?15:39
kirklandnurmi: can you take this difference and apply upstream, to remove the conflict for the next time we merge?15:39
rcaskeydist-upgraded to karmic at the beta, and then started having problems15:40
nurmikirkland: i'll give it a try; i want to see what happens when that file doesn't exist (node-preseed.conf) as it will only be there on ubuntu installs15:41
rcaskey** (gnome-settings-daemon:3019): WARNING **: Failed to acquire org.gnome.SettingsDaemon15:42
rcaskey** (gnome-settings-daemon:3019): WARNING **: Could not acquire name15:42
* rcaskey is a sad boy15:42
kirklandnurmi: okay, one more thing ...15:42
seb128rcaskey, you have one already running?15:43
kirklandnurmi: could you go through https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus, and update any bugs that you expect to be solved in this r911 upload15:43
kirklandnurmi: please assign them to me (kirkland) and mark them "in progress"15:44
rcaskeyseb128, yes, hrmm, wasn't before the reboot though15:44
rcaskeygnome-session is still failing silently though15:44
nurmikirkland: will do, looking now15:44
ttxKeybuk: about upstart not reloading /etc/init/*.conf on "restart" (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/430883/comments/1): was that behavior changed by the 0.6.3-6 update ?15:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 430883 in upstart "Can start, but not restart, a stopped Upstart job" [Low,Fix released]15:45
nurmikirkland: if the bug is already 'in progress' and assigned to you, leave it be?15:45
kirklandnurmi: yes; i'm doing this same thing in parallel :-)15:46
kirklandnurmi: i want double coverage on it, though; as I'm documenting this in the changelog15:46
rcaskeyseb128, killing that old copy and rerunning gnome-session produces the same results15:47
rcaskey(polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:3236): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type `_PolkitError'15:47
rcaskeyor more to the point, if you killal gnome-settings-daemon and then rerun gnome-session you get (gnome-settings-daemon:3449): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed15:51
nurmikirkland: done15:52
kirklandnurmi: rock, thanks15:53
keespitti: actually, you're right -- setuid() when called by root is the same as setresuid().15:58
kirklandnurmi: glad i asked; you had a few on your list that i didn't15:59
keespitti: I'm used to using it on set-uid-root processes, though, where that does not happen.  (i.e. real-root setuid==setresuid, effective-root setuid!=setresuid)15:59
kirklandnurmi: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/43925116:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 439251 in eucalyptus "Eucalyptus restart is needed after autoregistration of components" [High,In progress]16:02
kirklandnurmi: any idea what revno fixes that?16:02
nurmiif I'm correct, it should be 89216:03
nurmikirkland: i believe this was a symptom of the database race problem16:03
kirklandnurmi: cool16:03
nurmikirkland: i have a proposed general solution to the preseed stanza: http://paste.ubuntu.com/286274/16:04
nurmikirkland: line 12816:04
nurmiif both the module (mod_alias) and the node-preseed.conf files are there, it will add the configuration to httpd-cc.conf16:05
nurmiotherwise, it will skip16:05
kirklandnurmi: is this already in this merge?16:05
kirklandnurmi: or are you asking me to add that?16:06
nurmikirkland: no, i'm proposing it for the next, unless you would like me to commit this now as 91216:06
kirklandnurmi: if you think it's safe, please go ahead and commit16:07
kirklandnurmi: i'll just merge again16:07
nurmikirkland: it is safe (tested) from a eucalyptus init script perspective, but I don't know how to test the upstart conversion part16:09
nurmikirkland: at some point, the init scripts must be getting converted to upstart scripts16:09
nurmikirkland: if you think that adding this bit to the regular init script will translate properly to /etc/init/eucalyptus-cc.conf, then I'll commit16:11
kirklandnurmi: let me think on it for a minute16:12
lamontScottK: yeah - I wanted to get the chroots happy and such - then I had intarwebs issues at home this weekend16:14
lamontso... today/tomorrow for maven - the downside is that it means a crowbar for i386 buildds (--> manual)16:14
lamontScottK: otoh, i386 is down to almost nothing left in the queue16:15
ScottKlamont: I understand.  I'd appreciate that one.  I could always boot strap it locally and do an upload with an embedded binary if you'd prefer?16:15
kirklandnurmi: ttx: okay, testing the local build now16:18
kirklandnurmi: let's hold off on merging that hypotetical r912 at the moment16:18
kirklandttx: oh, wait, there was a patch you told me that I should drop...16:19
kirklandttx: where was that?  email or in irc?16:19
ttxkirkland: email, ubuntu-devel. boot-order.patch16:19
ttxapplies to old init scripts, iirc16:20
kirklandnurmi: also, do we need to refresh the WSDL stubs?16:23
nurmikirkland: nope16:25
kirklandnurmi: good16:25
kirklandmdz: around?16:25
kirklandmdz: i have a couple of questions about your eucalyptus upstart scripts16:25
mdzkirkland, yes, but on the phone. what can I do for you?16:25
lamontScottK: the trick is to add the debs to the chroot, manual everything, build them, upload them, and then put the old chroot back and auto-mode16:25
mdzkirkland, I can answer asynchronously16:25
kirklandmdz: that's fine16:26
ScottKlamont: Yes.  Please.  It's more than just the one package (I assume you know this already)16:26
kirklandmdz: 1) eucalyptus-cc.upstart:exec apache2 -f /var/run/eucalyptus/httpd-cc.conf -D FOREGROUND16:26
kirklandmdz: nurmi asked why this was being started in the foreground...  is this linked to some upstart logging, or some such?16:27
lamontyeah - I have a lizt16:27
lamontlist, too16:27
kirklandmdz: i'16:28
mdzkirkland, that's by design16:28
mdzkirkland, upstart expects that16:28
kirklandmdz: okay, thanks; glad I checked; i was inclined to drop that16:28
mdzit lets it monitor and stop the process16:28
cjwatsonmdz: unless you use 'expect fork' or 'expect daemon' or whatever ...16:28
cjwatsonyou don't *have* to run upstart jobs in the foreground16:29
kirklandmdz: 2) ttx and I were wondering if perhaps we're attempting registration too soon, before the tcp/ip stack is functional; wondering if we should push registration back (or have it depend) on networking16:29
kirklandmdz: i was curious if you had an opinion or input on (2)16:32
kirklandmdz: i don't have proposed changes on that one yet16:32
ttxkirkland: if you are in them, fix /etc/init/eucalyptus-walrus-registration.conf so that it uses ipaddrs.conf as the others do16:35
ttxkirkland: can't seem to reproduce first-boot registration failure on subsequent boots, maybe some DHCP racing is involved here16:36
kirklandttx: okay, can do16:38
ttxkirkland: do you have an ETA for a r911-based package in PPA ?16:38
kirklandttx: i'm building locally right now, should be done with that in 2-3 minutes16:38
ttxI'd like to test if the admin credentials lost on upgrade issue is still there16:38
kirklandttx: i'm pushing to ppa as soon as my local build succeeds16:38
ttxkirkland: ok16:38
kirklandttx: though i'll add your ipaddrs.conf change too, if you like16:39
kirklandttx: that shouldn't affect the build16:39
ttxkirkland: that's cosmetic, the key to upgrading to r911 is that db upgrade issue16:39
ttxkirkland: so the sooner I get a r911 package, the better ;)16:40
kirklandttx: local build done; attending your ipaddrs.conf16:40
* ttx reinstalls from CD to get prstine state and one more autoregistration test16:41
keesslangasek: on upgrades, libpam0g prompts for service restarts.  should we adjust that (as done for libc, I think) to not prompt in update-manager ?16:41
ScottK+1 for that16:42
OberonKingsorry folks, i'm have a issue with the last 2 livecd, alpha 6 and beta don't boot, make the boot process but freeze... can't even enter to a console (ctrl+f1)16:42
OberonKingi try noapic, nolapic, ....etc and nothing16:43
mdzkirkland, I committed a patch to get rid of the error redirect for euca_conf during registration.  that should make it obvious if that's what's happening16:44
OberonKingohh, i forget, in virtualBox work without problems.16:44
mdzkirkland, my gut reaction is, let's test that hypothesis before we try to fix it that way16:44
keesslangasek: oh, nevermind, I'm reading 278117 now; it seems like this is only done if the services are non-default16:44
kirklandmdz: ack, that sounds perfectly reasonable16:45
kirklandttx: uploaded to my ppa16:45
kirklandttx: also, pushed to bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kirkland/eucalyptus/r911/16:45
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ScottKkees: Since there is no other option that "OK" and there's no way to go back at that point, asking seems somewhat pointless to me.16:50
keesScottK: well, you can change the list of services, but it should only appear when non-default services are installed16:51
mdzkirkland, do you have an ETA for the new snapshot of eucalyptus landing in karmic?16:51
kirklandmdz: i just pushed to my PPA; i plan on testing that there, and then uploading to karmic, and asking for an ISO respin immediately thereafter16:52
ScottKkees: I supose.  I upgraded a server over the weekend and was somewhat disappointed to find it waiting for me to OK when I got back to it.16:52
kirklandmdz: i expect all of that to happen within my workday16:52
ttxmdz: there is a regression in there16:52
mdzttx, bug#?16:52
ttxbug 44312516:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443125 in eucalyptus "Upgrade to r908 loses admin credentials" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44312516:52
kirklandmdz: right, pending the fixage of that regression, of course16:52
kirklandmdz: as we understand it, nurmi and team are working on that in the upstream code right now16:53
ttxmdz: I also hit  bug 443118 on current dailies16:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443118 in eucalyptus "No autoregistration on first startup after ISO install" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44311816:53
ttxwhich is the ont that prompted kirkland's query about eucalyptus boot order16:53
mdzkirkland, if nurmi is working on it, please assign the bug to him16:54
ttxmdz: I reinstall now to test upgrade to r91116:54
kirklandmdz: done; actually, he's trying to reproduce it at the moment16:54
mdzkirkland, are you holding off pushing to /ubuntu until all known issues are resolved?16:55
kirklandmdz: yes16:56
ttxmdz: I would hold until bug 443125 is fixed.16:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443125 in eucalyptus "Upgrade to r908 loses admin credentials" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44312516:56
kirklandmdz: i have lp:~kirkland/eucalyptus/ubuntu in the mean time16:56
kirklandmdz: unless you'd like me to push there?16:56
ttxthe others (autoregistration stuff) will need some iterations16:56
kirklandmdz: i suppose at this point we're committed to merging up to r9xx anyway16:56
mdzkirkland, if we're committed anyway, then I see no harm in pushing ahead16:57
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/39103516:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 391035 in aptitude "aptitude stops displaying downloads" [Undecided,New]16:57
dupondjecould somebody give this bug a look ? Its like the most annoying bug in Karmic :(16:57
kirklandmdz: okay; i was concerned about pushing something with a suspected regression; though I guess pushing to bzr is very different than uploading a broken package (which we won't do of course)16:57
ttxkirkland: ack16:58
nurmimdz: kirkland: ttx: we believe we have diagnosed and fixed #44312516:58
mdzkirkland, if you're unsure about merging to /ubuntu, you could create a new branch under ~ubuntu-core-dev16:58
kirkland$ bzr push lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/eucalyptus/ubuntu16:58
kirklandPushed up to revision 649.16:58
mdzkirkland, I ask because it's not ideal that the current working tree is only writable by you16:58
ttxnurmi: you mean in >=r911 ?16:58
kirklandmdz: ah, right; that makes perfect sense16:58
kirklandmdz: will do that in the future16:58
kirklandmdz: this time, i've pushed our main tree up to r64916:59
mdzkirkland, does that match what's currently in your PPA?17:00
ttxconfirming bug 443118 for the third install today17:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443118 in eucalyptus "No autoregistration on first startup after ISO install" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44311817:00
nurmittx: yes, the bug was still in 911.  912 has the fix.  911 has fixes for many of the other bugs, though, and so i think it is worth a try (as long as we're not upgrading from 854, but instead installing package from scratch)17:00
kirklandmdz: yes17:00
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mdzttx, your ISO is still using r854, right?17:00
ttxmdz: yes.17:01
ttxmdz: testing the latest with some purge/start-restart-diversion/install/reboot setup didn't exhibit the bug17:01
kirkland    *   Start in 7 hours (2505) What's this?17:02
mdzttx, I would be interested to see what shows up in the logs once euca_conf-error-output.diff is applied17:02
mdzttx, maybe you could patch that in post-install and pre-reboot as a test?17:02
kirklandttx: mdz: without a build priority bump, it will be a long time before my eucalyptus ppa packages build17:02
mdzkirkland, ->lamont17:02
ttxkirkland: could you bump to 912 ? then I'll test that the regression is gone17:02
kirklandttx: i don't see r912 yet17:03
ttxI hold my upgrade, non need in testig if the regression is gone in 911 if nurmi says it's fixed in 91217:04
cjwatsonkirkland: I'll bump prio17:04
kirklandlamont: could you give my PPA eucalyptus builds a shot of amphetamines?17:04
kirklandcjwatson: cheers, thanks (lamont -> nevermind)17:04
ttxcjwatson, kirkland I'd prefer you to bump 91217:04
kirklandcjwatson: okay, hold a sec17:04
ttxsince I have no use for the 911-based17:04
nurmikirkland: should be pushed, sometimes it takes LP a few minutes to update17:04
kirklandttx: r912 doesn't exist yet17:04
kirklandttx: nurmi: okay, i got it17:05
kirklandre-uploading17:05
ttxmdz: my test setup is on the regression issue right now, since it's the one blocking the new version to reach the ISO17:06
kirklandttx: nurmi: what bug number does r912 close?17:07
ttxkirkland: bug 44312517:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443125 in eucalyptus "Upgrade to r908 loses admin credentials" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44312517:07
nurmihttps://launchpad.net/bugs/44312517:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443125 in eucalyptus "Upgrade to r908 loses admin credentials" [High,Triaged]17:07
kirklandttx: mdz: uploaded to my ppa17:09
kirklandcjwatson: i'll ping you in a minute, when LP figures out it needs to build a eucalyptus ppa package for me17:09
kirklandmdz: my merge changelog last week was a bit of a stub; here's what we're working with now: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/286320/17:11
cjwatsonkirkland: ok, I'm on a call so expect a bit of latency17:12
kirklandcjwatson: okay eucalyptus 1.6~bzr912-0ubuntu1~ppa1 in https://edge.launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive/ppa is waiting to build17:12
ttxkirkland: my test setup is ready to test the new upgrade. I'll be afk for a few waiting for your PPA to publish a 912-based one17:13
ttxkirkland: just ping me when done.17:13
cjwatsonkirkland: bumped17:15
kirklandttx: cool17:15
kirklandcjwatson: thanks man17:15
cyphermoxI'm looking at bug #404616 which we identified and possibly fixed during the global jam here. I fixed the bug in a bzr branch in my lp user, but what is the correct workflow from there? Should I still be creating a debdiff and subscribing ubuntu-main-sponsors, or is a merge proposal for the bzr branch that holds its packaging code enough?17:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 404616 in libgweather "Weather forecasts are incomplete/invalid for Montreal, Quebec, Canada" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40461617:22
lamontkirkland: actually, no, I can't.17:26
lamontthat's a losa thing17:26
lamontkeytool: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory17:26
lamontdear java.  why do you hate me?17:26
lamontdoko_: where does that library live?  and can someone fix ca-certificates-java to actually DEPEND on that package?17:26
lamontScottK: maven will be much easier to build if the packages were installable...17:26
kirklandttx: nurmi: mdz: build done, available at https://edge.launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive/ppa17:27
nurmikirkland: trying17:28
doko_lamont: is this in a chroot without mounted /proc?17:28
ttxkirkland: trying17:31
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keesslangasek: for your consideration, logwatch FFe: 44325217:32
lamontdoko_: sigh17:35
lamontyeah17:35
lamont&)^*^&(^%(&^) java17:35
lamontand the rest that need /proc17:35
ttxkirkland: bug 443125 is *not* fixed in 1.6~bzr912-0ubuntu1~ppa117:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443125 in eucalyptus "Upgrade to r908 loses admin credentials" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44312517:36
kirklandnurmi: ^17:37
nurmikirkland: still trying the upgrade17:37
nurmittx: kirkland: we could reproduce with 911, but not with 912 (should have fixed)17:37
kirklandttx: nurmi: FYI, i'm installing from today's iso17:37
YokoZarWow, I just confirmed a bug and assigned it to myself.  I said that it affects me too, and I'll take care of it.  I then realized I was the reporter about 2 months ago.17:37
lamontdoko_: if it _NEEDS_ /proc, it should better assert that in preinst, no?17:38
ttxkirkland, nurmi: installed todays ISO, test the euca-* commands work, upgrade to 1.6~bzr912-0ubuntu1~ppa1, and that same command no longer works.17:38
ttxand sudo euca_conf --get-credentials returns an empty file.17:39
lamonthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/286342/ <-- doko17:39
doko_lamont: I can do that, but maybe after karmic17:39
* ttx will be back in a few hours17:39
keesRiddell: who maintains skim?17:43
lamontnm17:43
Riddellkees: you're making an assumption17:44
keesRiddell: hrm.  well, it currently ftbfs and it's in main.  should I assign it to ubuntu-desktop?17:46
Riddellkees: assign  to me if  you  like,  "jr"17:47
keesRiddell: ok, cool.  thx!17:47
Riddellkees: for koffice the upstream insists 1.6 is supported and have proved it by supplying  a  patch to disable the xpdf stuff, so I guess we'll go with that17:48
fbondstatik: Hey, FYI, python-spawning (in your PPA) does not depend on python-greenlet (but should).17:50
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statikhi fbond: you are correct. rmcbride had taken over working on that package, he may even have a corrected version in REVU right now17:51
statiki should delete the old stuff out of my ppa though17:51
statikor even better, i'll copy rmcbrides newer package there17:52
rmcbridestatik: the version I have in REVU has corrected deps, but I'm uploading the 0.8.12 version to REVU now, since the previous one is still in queue and needs to be replaced17:56
fbondstatik: Okay, thanks.  If you put the updated package in your PPA I would be thankful.17:58
fbondrmcbride: Does spawning have VCS somewhere?17:58
nurmittx: kirkland: mdz: strangeness - if I use the 912 'cloud' package, i'm seeing ttx's problem (admin creds don't last through the upgrade).  If i use eucalyptus*.jar that are built from 912 source, i am not seeing the problem17:59
kirklandnurmi: we need to diff that18:00
nurmikirkland: i'm going to need some time to track this down18:01
kirklandnurmi: okay18:01
kirklandnurmi: what's your approach?18:01
kirklandnurmi: i recommend starting with the source we're using for the jar in the package, versus what you're using where you don't see the problem18:01
nurmikirkland: nod18:04
nurmikirkland: i want to start with a clean 854 install, then build 912 upstream and confirm that the bug is fixed18:05
kirklandnurmi: where are the source files in question?18:05
nurmikirkland: then, from 854 install, i want to try the 912 used to create packages18:05
nurmiclc/modules/authentication/src/main/java/com/eucalyptus/auth/CredentialEntities.groovy18:06
nurmiclc/modules/authentication/src/main/java/com/eucalyptus/auth/CredentialProvider.java18:06
lamonti386 buildds on manual for a bit18:06
nurmiclc/modules/msgs/conf/scripts/startup.groovy18:06
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rmcbridefbond: I'll have to go look. I got the stuff I worked from from pypi and it's been a few days18:07
mdzkirkland, lamont, did you sort out how to get that build reprioritized? we'll need to do that more times before we're done18:08
kirklandmdz: cjwatson did it for me18:08
kirklandmdz: lamont said he couldn't18:09
cjwatsonsurprised lamont couldn't18:09
kirklandmdz: yes, it's built now, regression still in the subject package18:09
cjwatsonanyone in launchpad-buildd-admins should be able to18:09
mdzlamont, who in a US time zone can do that for kirkland the next time?18:09
kirklandmdz: nurmi is sorting that out, as he's not seeing it in his upstream build of r912, but is seeing it in the ubuntu build thereof18:09
cjwatsonmdz: kees can18:09
kirklandmdz: i'm parsing the diff now18:09
cjwatson(by virtue of TB membership)18:09
keesjust let me know which and when18:10
jcolehi guys, package evolution-mapi in karmic is currently unusable and does not work... it look like debian has a newer version (requires a newer evolution so i couldnt install)... how do i go about requesting a working version of evolution-mapi?18:10
mdzkirkland, can you explain 01-wsdl-stubs.patch to me?18:11
lamontwell.   they will be manual shortly18:11
kirklandmdz: no, I cannot.  soren, nurmi: can either of you guys help here?  what's with:18:12
kirkland-rw-r--r-- 1 kirkland kirkland 14M 2009-10-05 09:31 debian/patches/01-wsdl-stubs.patch18:12
* kirkland notes the *14M*18:12
mdzkirkland, based on earlier comments, I think ttx is more familiar with it18:12
lamontmdz/kirkland/cjwatson: rescoring is me or any duck.  permanently blessing a ppa (if doable) would be losa/gsa18:13
kirkland 351 files changed, 322953 insertions(+)   <---- that's scary18:13
kirklandlamont: oh, definitely don't need a permanent blessing18:14
kirklandlamont: just a couple of rescores18:14
cjwatsonlamont: rescoring is any launchpad-buildd-admins member, since I can do it and don't have a duck18:14
slacker_nlif you see some random string coming from me, my cats are jumping on my keyboard btw18:14
slacker_nlahh, they changed the channels already18:15
statikfbond, spawning is on bitbucket: http://bitbucket.org/fzzzy/spawning/overview/ also donovan recently started actively hacking on it and merging patches recently18:15
slacker_nlcats :/18:15
kirklandsudo killall cat18:15
highvoltage-918:16
pittidoesn't work18:17
pittiremember, you have to do18:17
pittifor i in `seq 7`; do killall cat; done18:17
ScottKdoko_: Any suggestions on http://paste.ubuntu.com/286360/ ?18:17
mdzkirkland, it's a bunch of autogenerated code from the looks of it18:18
mdznot sure why it's patched in18:18
ogralool, the display properties notification icon is still completely coloured (testing your icon-theme package)18:18
mdzpitti, haha18:18
kirklandpitti: LoL :-)18:20
jcoleill just "apt-get source evoltion-mapi" from debian unstable, "apt-get build-dep evoltion-mapi; dpkg-build-package" and see if i get luck... ill add it to the internal repos if success18:21
doko_ScottK: doesn't look like a valid module name, no not on first look18:23
ScottKdoko_: The confusing part is this is a rebuild, so something has changed.18:23
ScottKThe only change is build-dep libode0-dev -> libode-dev18:23
ScottKSo something is getting confused somewhere....18:24
ScottKdoko_: ^^18:24
nurmikirkland: okay, it looks like the newest package isn't installing some code from r91218:24
kirklandnurmi: oh?18:24
nurmikirkland: on my system, the /etc/eucalyptus/cloud.d/scripts/startup.groovy is not the same as the one from the source tarball18:25
doko_ScottK: I try to have a look this week ...18:26
rmcbridefbond: I dont see a reference to any sort of VCS for python-spawning at pypi.18:26
ScottKdoko_: Thanks.18:26
ScottKdoko_: I have a vague hunch that the axiom FTBFS may be related.18:26
doko_persia, ttx: see bug #443292, any help appreaciated18:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443292 in ubuntu "sync, merges and FFe's need for getting maven built" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44329218:27
kirklandnurmi: can you pastebin a diff of those two?18:31
nurmikirkland: i'm trying a new install, i can get the diff back in a moment...18:32
nurmiit looked like the file from 85418:33
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loologra: Ok; I am not sure how that one is considered; would you mind filing a bug against humanity-icon-theme?18:33
loologra: thanks for testing!18:34
kirklandnurmi: hmm, i might have screwed up the merge18:34
ogralool, will do, ibus is also coulored, but i dont think it is handled by any theme (though probably more often used than the display properties in the notification area)18:35
nurmikirkland: not sure if this is related, but last time i tried a 'bzr builddeb', i did notice that it was grabbing a source tarball from the toplevel directory, instead of using the source from the bzr co itself18:35
ograhmm, is my gdm supposed to be all black nowadays ?18:35
ogralooks quite ugly18:36
nurmikirkland: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/286372/18:37
nurmikirkland: diff of the two18:37
nurmikirkland: startup.groovy s18:37
kirklandnurmi: cool, i think i see what i did wrong18:37
kirklandnurmi: looks like it was my fault; i only have merged r91218:38
kirklandnurmi: whereas i did r911 correctly18:38
kirklandnurmi: i did that last bit asleep at the wheel18:38
* nurmi is motivated to get more coffee, right back :)18:39
* lamont kicks the intarwebs18:39
lamontkirkland: ah ok... it sounded like you wanted something more earlier18:39
kirklandlamont: nope, just a build bump18:39
kirklandlamont: i'm about to need another one18:40
fbondstatik: Thanks.18:43
fbondrmcbride: Thanks.18:43
kirklandlamont: please bump these 3:18:46
kirklandhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive/ppa/+build/127691018:46
kirklandhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive/ppa/+build/127691118:46
kirklandhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive/ppa/+build/127691218:46
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ogralool, what about vino, do you want a bug for it too (also completely coulored)18:49
james_wRiddell: the description of qt-sdk is truncated18:51
loologra: Sure18:51
loologra: kind of depends whether it's an app or a system service18:51
loolAgain not entirely clear in the case of vino18:51
james_wRiddell: would you like to fix it later or before it gets out of the queue?18:51
ograwell, its installed by default18:51
loolrhythmbox, banshee, tomboy are clearly in the app camp18:51
ograand it uses the notification area by default18:51
kirklandnurmi: this one should be better18:51
loologra: Yes but we only care about system services for b&w icons18:51
ograindeed18:51
kirklandnurmi: as soon as lamont ushers it up in the build queue18:52
Riddelljames_w: in debian/control  ?18:52
james_wRiddell: yeah18:52
Riddelljames_w: I see, please reject18:52
james_wdone18:53
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kirklandlamont: just curious if you caught those last few messages from me; i see you just rejoined18:54
lamontthrough :39, yes18:56
lamontafter that, no.18:56
lamontand in about an hour, I'm goona head home to beat the intarwebs up18:56
kirkland<kirkland> lamont: please bump these 3:18:56
kirkland<kirkland> https://edge.launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive/ppa/+build/127691018:56
kirkland<kirkland> https://edge.launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive/ppa/+build/127691118:56
kirkland<kirkland> https://edge.launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive/ppa/+build/127691218:56
lamontkirkland: rescored19:01
kirklandlamont: thanks19:01
kirklandnurmi: okay, i'm testing the latest package19:08
kirklandnurmi: ubuntu@cluster:~$ sudo euca_conf --get-credentials mycreds.zip19:08
kirkland[sudo] password for ubuntu:19:08
kirklandERROR: you need to be on the CLC host and the CLC needs to be running.19:08
kirklandnurmi: oh, wait19:08
kirklandit just came19:08
freepitti: hi!19:14
freepitti: have a minute to talk about #347983?19:14
nurmikirkland: are the amd64 packages built?  I'm still seeing them as 'needs building' but i might be looking in the wrong place19:15
nurmikirkland: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive/ppa/+build/127691019:15
lamontnurmi: you're looking in the right place -19:18
lamontOTOH, already running builds kinda win, and the dispatcher seems a tad slow19:18
nurmilamont: great thank you19:19
* lamont needs to look at the right architecture - i386 is the one with an idle ppa buildd - the amd64 buildds are all happily building along.19:21
lamontonce they finish their current builds, kirkland's builds will win19:21
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kirklandnurmi: okay, i've tested the new upload19:35
kirklandnurmi: i'm not able to run instances19:36
kirklandnurmi: http://rookery.canonical.com/~kirkland/cloud-output.log19:36
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nurmidoes that ssh key exist? (mykey)19:37
nurmikirkland: i.e. does euca-describe-keypairs show it?19:38
kirklandnurmi: my fault, i found it19:39
nurmibtw, is this from an upgrade from 854?19:39
kirklandnurmi: yes19:43
kirklandnurmi: okay, i have a running instance on 1.6~bzr912-0ubuntu1~ppa2 (!!)19:43
nurmikirkland: aw yeah19:43
kirklandnurmi: give it a poke, let me know if you see any obvious regressions19:43
nurmii'll be running through our full QA here in a second19:44
kirklandnurmi: i'm going to eat a bite of lunch, and upload to karmic thereafter, assuming we don't detect any regressions19:44
nurmikirkland: and this is as an upgrade from 854 (iso)?19:44
nurmikirkland: wait you already answered that, nvm19:44
kirklandnurmi: yes, today's iso (854) upgraded to these PPA packages19:44
kirklandnurmi: it's not DoA, which is good19:44
kirklandnurmi: ETA on your QA testing?19:45
kirklandnurmi: ideally, i'd like to wait for that before pushing to karmic19:45
nurmiassuming this works out of the box, i can be done with short-term testing in an hour19:45
kirklandnurmi: assuming that'll be done in ~1 hour or so19:45
kirklandnurmi: par-fect19:45
kirklandnurmi: i'll cross my fingers and get something to eat19:46
nurmikirkland: awesome, thanks dustin19:46
kirklandmdz: fyi, initial testing on r912 looks good, i have running instances here19:46
mdzkirkland, good good19:46
kirklandmdz: upgraded from r854, anyway19:46
kirklandmdz: nurmi is putting it through the Eucalyptus Systems QA suite19:46
kirklandmdz: that should conclude in roughly an hour19:47
kirklandmdz: i'll upload to karmic thereafter, and ask for an iso respin19:47
kirklandmdz: unless you want that in progress in parallel19:47
kirklandmdz: i have not detected any regressions, have seen ttx's issues solved19:47
kirklandmdz: this upload is thought to fix ~12 bugs19:47
mdzkirkland, whatever is best in your judgement19:48
kirklandmdz: i will wait for nurmi19:48
nurmikirkland: mdz: doing eucalyptus tests now19:51
kirklandnurmi: hunting for leftovers now19:51
mdznurmi, do you have a separate bug number for 443125 upstream or are you using the same one?19:52
nurmimdz: same one, we learned about this bug this morning19:52
mdznurmi, and it's meant to be fixed by r912? I don't see a bug number in the commit message19:54
nurmimdz: it is, the committer did not put in a bug number into the revision19:55
mdznurmi, understood, I'll just update the bug accordingly19:55
arandCan I view the security queue for ubuntu, or is it non-public?19:57
jdstrandarand: as in what is in our build queue? that is non-public19:58
nurmimdz: thank you, appreciated19:59
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arandjdstrand: so that is a separate section compared to the public https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+queue ?20:06
jdstrandarand: yes, we build in a private ppa20:10
arandOkay, one learns something new...20:11
ttxkirkland: why did you reopen bug 436313 ? It was fixed, the merge just confirms the fix ?20:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 436313 in eucalyptus "SC registration through web UI fails" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43631320:20
kirklandttx: then i misunderstood your comments20:21
kirklandttx: i assumed this was fixed in a revision >> 85420:21
kirklandttx: i found that revision in the upstream commit log20:21
ttxkirkland: yes, it was fixed in a rev>>854, but applied to our branch20:21
mdzttx, can you explain about 01-wsdl-stubs.patch?20:22
kirklandttx: cool, i'll close it then20:22
ttxmdz: there is a trick because eucalyptus needs some C code generated from wsdl descriptions20:23
ttxmdz: it uses wsdl2c which uses some unpackaged axis2 java code20:23
ttxso if upstream changes wsdl descriptions, the patch needs to be refreshed20:24
mdzttx, is there any kind of check in place so that we notice when that happens? it should probably fail the build20:24
ttxmdz: I don't think there is, it bit soren once already20:25
ttxmdz: more info with soren20:25
nurmimdz: ttx: the trigger for that (C auto-gen stuff) would be if any of the wsdl files changes (<eucalyptus-src>/wsdl/*)20:51
nurmittx: mdz: kirkland: okay, our short-term tests have passed with the latest package from this morning (1.6~bzr912-0ubuntu1~ppa2)20:57
kirklandnurmi: cool20:58
kirklandnurmi: i'm uploading to karmic then20:58
kirklandnurmi: as I'm happy with the prodding i've done20:58
kirklandnurmi: i'll ping you again as soon as we get a new ISO20:58
LLStarkshi.20:59
nurmikirkland: great!20:59
LLStarksi find it infuriating that i need to have a genuine package installed to file a bug against it.20:59
hyperair..this is just great. now i can't file bugs on launchpad manually?20:59
hyperairwhat's the big idea?20:59
LLStarkswhat if i am using a ppa version but i need to use ubuntu-bug?20:59
hyperairmy my, looks like we're both ranting about the same issue21:00
LLStarkshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/44396121:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443961 in apport "Given that ubuntu-bug is now needed for all bug reports, non-genuine packages should be allowed." [Undecided,New]21:01
doko_lucas: do you understand the ruby1.9 build failure on i386?21:26
lucasdoko_: there was an upstream bug + patch21:27
lucasdoko_: bug #44304421:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443044 in ruby1.9 "ruby1.9 fails to build on i386" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44304421:27
doko_lucas: thanks! I'll upload21:28
kirklandcrap21:29
kirklandmdz: eucalyptus build failed21:29
kirklandThe following packages have unmet dependencies:21:29
kirkland  default-jdk: Depends: default-jre (= 1.6-30ubuntu5) but it is not going to be installed21:29
kirkland               Depends: openjdk-6-jdk (>= 6b11) but it is not going to be installed21:29
kirklanddoko_: hey21:32
mdzkirkland, on which arch(es)?21:32
kirklandmdz: all21:32
kirklanddoko_: is our jdk/jre in flux right now?21:32
kirklandhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/1.6~bzr912-0ubuntu121:32
kirklandmdz: ^21:32
doko_kirkland: no, java-access-bridge was uploaded, but that did add only a dependency. I don't know of anything else21:34
kirklanddoko_: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33058735/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.eucalyptus_1.6~bzr912-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz  <---- any ideas?21:35
mdzkirkland, doko,   openjdk-6-jre: Depends: libaccess-bridge-java-jni but it is not going to be installed21:37
doko_kirkland: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/karmic_probs.html21:38
mdz  libaccess-bridge-java-jni: Depends: libaccess-bridge-java (>= 1.26.2-1ubuntu1) but it is not installable21:38
mdzE: Package libaccess-bridge-java has no installation candidate21:38
doko_ahh, it's in universe, please promote21:39
kirklanddoko_: ah21:40
doko_ubuntu-archive: ^^^21:40
kirklanddoko_: one minute, i'll push21:40
cjwatsondone21:40
kirklandcjwatson: thanks21:40
kirklandcjwatson: do i need to re-upload to retrigger the build?21:40
mdzdoko_, what bug is that change meant to fix? I don't see a bug reference in the changelog21:40
cjwatsonkirkland: no21:40
cjwatsonkirkland: there's a retry button in launchpad21:41
kirklandcjwatson: awesome, thanks21:41
doko_mdz: the jni bindings require the java files, or else the bridge doesn't work21:41
kirklandcjwatson: cool, never noticed taht!21:41
doko_kirkland: only for buildd admins21:41
cjwatsonkirkland: wait an hour for the main promotion to take effect, of course21:41
cjwatsondoko_: false21:41
kirklandcjwatson: okay21:42
cjwatsondoko_: if you're able to upload a package, you're able to retry a build too21:42
doko_cjwatson: then it did change21:42
cjwatsondoko_: a year or two ago, yeah. rescoring is still restricted21:42
doko_ahh, ok21:42
cjwatsonwhich might be what you're thinking of21:42
doko_yep21:42
mdkeseb128: I'm around now if you can21:42
kirklandmdz: okay, as this stands, i will be several hours before I'm able to receive and test a new ISO21:42
seb128mdke, hey21:44
mdkehiya21:44
seb128mdke, so what is your issue with the gedit naming?21:44
mdkeseb128: I was just putting the thought out there, that it is inconsistent with the other menu entries which don't use the application name, also it seems to me that it looks ugly to start a menu entry with a small letter21:45
mdkeseb128: but it's an issue for the desktop team to decide, as the docs team we'll just adapt to the decision, whatever it is21:45
mdkebut we'll need to make string changes to update the docs21:45
seb128mdke, we have quite some applications using "software name function"21:46
mdzkirkland, I understand, it's not your fault21:46
mdkeseb128: I was comparing it with the other basic applications in the Accessories menu, like Calculator, Terminal etc21:47
mdkeseb128: but yeah, it's true for the Internet menu21:48
mdke(and others)21:48
seb128we are in a situation were it's mixed and they are trying to fix it now I think21:48
seb128I agree it's a bit late for this cycle21:48
seb128I'm not strongly opposed to delay the gedit change to next cycle21:48
mdkeseb128: it's not a huge issue from a docs point of view either, I've checked and I think we only have one string which uses "Text Editor". I suppose the easiest is to go with upstream and hope that they fix the inconsistency in future cycles21:51
seb128mdke, you are not the first on to mention than having the title starting with a small letter is weird though so I'm not sure, I will think about it until tomorrow21:54
mdkeseb128: ok - as long as you post to the bug report, we'll pick it up21:55
mdkeseb128: thanks21:55
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seb128thank you for bringing the issue!21:55
mdkeanytime. I'm good at bringing issues :(21:55
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slangasekcjwatson: so, I guess ubuntu-desktop is being held back here due to the libgd2-(no)?xpm conflict... any thoughts on how to resolve this?22:11
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cjwatsonhmm, I guess I'll tell you once it filters down to my mirror :)22:13
cjwatsonwe could try dropping -noxpm's priority, ISTR apt pays some attention to that22:13
slangasekok, lowering to extra22:15
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kirklandkees: can you make https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/1.6~bzr912-0ubuntu1/+build/1277101 build now?22:49
keeskirkland: one moment...22:49
keeskirkland: when palmer, rothera, or vernadsky finish, eucalyptus will build.  I don't have the ability to cancel a running build.22:50
kirklandkees: cool, thanks.22:50
keeskirkland: (I've scored it high to build next...)22:50
kirklandgreat, thanks22:51
keeskirkland: now building22:53
kirklandkees: outstanding22:53
keesthat was fun! first time I've used that super-power.  ;)22:54
kirklandkees: oh, we can exercise that some more, if you want more fun in your superhero life22:55
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kirklandslangasek: okay, could you push a server ISO build for me, with eucalyptus 1.6~bzr912-0ubuntu1 ?23:10
kirklandslangasek: please, and thanks!23:10
slangasekkirkland: queued23:11
kirklandslangasek: cheers23:11
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jonodirecthex, around?23:29
directhexjono, give or take, sure23:32
nurmikirkland: regarding lp bug 439364 - trying to register 'localhost' with walrus is not valid (for the reasons we've discussed).  the bug is currently marked 'high/incomplete', should it be closed or do you feel that there is further action here?23:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 439364 in eucalyptus "Internal error registering local walrus" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43936423:37
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