[00:02] <Seeker`> so if i download and install that .deb, I'll have the latest 0.22
[00:02] <Seeker`> and all that I  need to do for backup is backup mythconverg?
[00:02] <Seeker`> (just to be clear)
[00:03] <tgm4883> Seeker`, you install the package and select which verision you want to have installed
[00:03] <tgm4883> in your case, 0.22
[00:04] <orificium> "sudo apt-get upgrade" after selecting version
[00:04] <Seeker`> how do I select the version?
[00:04] <tgm4883> orificium, actually, sudo apt-get update first
[00:04] <tgm4883> Seeker`, it asks you when it installs
[00:04] <tgm4883> Seeker`, it asks you if you want to activate weekly builds, which you do
[00:04] <tgm4883> then asks you the version
[00:05] <tgm4883> all via debconf
[00:05] <Seeker`> cool
[00:05] <Seeker`> and how easy / possible will it be to convert back to the non-ppa when 9.10 is released?
[00:06] <tgm4883> dpkg-reconfigure mythbuntu-repos
[00:06] <tgm4883> then say no to weekly builds
[00:06] <Seeker`> k
[00:06] <Seeker`> thanks
[00:06] <tgm4883> but i'd leave it active
[00:06] <Seeker`> will try shortly
[00:07] <orificium> tgm4883: once 9.10 is released, Update Manager should just say there is a new distribution release right?
[00:08] <tgm4883> orificium, I think so
[00:08] <tgm4883> and actually, the PPA will be disabled if you do upgrade to a new distribution
[00:10] <Seeker`> do I want to activate the testing PPA?
[00:10] <Seeker`> for MythExport and MythNetTV
[00:10] <tgm4883> Seeker`, it has other stuff as well I think
[00:10] <orificium> Seeker`: apparently mythnettv is being replaced by mirobridge anyway.
[00:11] <Seeker`> tgm4883: but do I want it?
[00:11] <tgm4883> probably should add a link to the PPA
[00:11] <Seeker`> Y/N
[00:11] <orificium> Seeker`: I enabled it.  you don't have to install the packages
[00:13] <Seeker`> it says lots of myth packages are being held back
[00:14] <Seeker`> apt-get dist-upgrade?
[00:16] <orificium> I had problems runnign apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:16] <orificium> I used apt-get upgrade
[00:16] <orificium> do the apt-get update first
[00:17] <Seeker`> I did apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get update, now running apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:17] <Seeker`> had some kernel packages held back for a while
[00:21] <orificium> you may also need to run mythfrontend -r to reset the theme if the frontend doesn't start
[00:21] <orificium> I had that problem on a fresh copy of 9.04
[00:21] <orificium> after installing auto-builds
[00:22] <tgm4883> !testing
[00:22] <Zinn> to enable the mythbuntu-testing PPA, please download the Mythbuntu repos package from http://www.mythbuntu.org/testingandreporting and install it.
[00:22] <tgm4883> !weekly
[00:22] <Zinn> Weekly builds are available for MythTV 0.21 (Stable) and MythTV Trunk 0.22 (Unstable, use at your own RISK) for Hardy, Intrepid, & Jaunty.  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[00:22] <tgm4883> !repos
[00:22] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about repos
[00:22] <tgm4883> @learn repos - http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/mythbuntu-repos.deb
[00:22] <Zinn> I just learned: repos - http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/mythbuntu-repos.deb
[00:24] <tgm4883> @learn weekly - Weekly builds are available for MythTV 0.21 (Stable) and MythTV Trunk 0.22 (Unstable, use at your own RISK) for Hardy (0.21 only), Intrepid, Jaunty, and Karmic (0.22 and 0.23-trunk).  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[00:24] <Zinn> I just learned: weekly - Weekly builds are available for MythTV 0.21 (Stable) and MythTV Trunk 0.22 (Unstable, use at your own RISK) for Hardy (0.21 only), Intrepid, Jaunty, and Karmic (0.22 and 0.23-trunk).  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[00:33] <Seeker`> updated; seems to work really well
[00:33] <Seeker`> only dislike is the colour of the new theme :P
[00:33] <tgm4883> carbon fiber?
[00:34] <Seeker`> huh?
[00:34] <superm1> Seeker`, you might need to grab the updated mythbuntu theme directly from launchpad if that's what you want to use
[00:34] <superm1> since we dont have it on those repos - only in karmic
[00:34] <superm1> launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu
[00:35] <Seeker`> the terra theme colour isn't great
[00:35] <superm1> oh terra
[00:35] <tgm4883> interestin
[00:36] <tgm4883> yea terra is cool, but I like the default mythbuntu theme better
[00:36] <Seeker`> any idea how to get graphite?
[00:36] <superm1> it should be coming with tomorrow's updates
[00:36] <superm1> or it's on the karmic repo already
[00:36] <superm1> launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/myththemes
[00:38]  * mishehu bahs.
[00:38] <Seeker`> tgm4883: what is the name of the default mythbuntu?
[00:38]  * mishehu laments over a52 spdif passthru
[00:38] <tgm4883> Seeker`, mythtv-theme-mythbuntu I think
[00:39] <Seeker`> mishehu: no longer works?
[00:42] <mishehu> Seeker`: mythmusic passes the sound through fine, but the builtin dvd player doesnt, I only hear weird pulses of "static"
[00:43] <Seeker`> ah
[00:51] <mishehu> does 9.04 use pulseaudio?
[00:51] <wombo> no
[00:51] <wombo> it disable it on startup of mythfrontend
[00:52] <mishehu> good
[00:52] <mishehu> ok, maybe I need to set both the passthrough and default audio devices to ALSA:iec958
[00:57] <Seeker`> argh, graphite is so close to being a good theme, yet so far
[01:04] <tgm4883> Seeker`, graphite?
[01:04] <Seeker`> yeah
[01:04] <Seeker`> the theme
[01:04] <tgm4883> link?
[01:06] <Seeker`> http://www.fecitfacta.com/Graphite/Gallery.html
[01:06] <Seeker`> but there isn't any consistency in colours
[01:06] <Seeker`> can't find an option to view more than 30 mins at a time in the program guide atm
[01:06] <Seeker`> its also slightly broken, which I am assuming is because I'm using weird versions of things
[01:07]  * tgm4883 still prefers the mythbuntu theme
[01:07] <Seeker`> the main page is ok
[01:08] <Seeker`> browsing stuff is a little clunky still, but not too bad
[01:08] <Seeker`> but the background to the program guide is a truely horrible pink/purple
[01:09] <orificium> Seeker`: graphite had a problem with editing metadata
[01:09] <orificium> Seeker`: not sure if its still a problem
[01:09] <Seeker`> hmm, dont have the new default theme as an option
[01:09] <Seeker`> will have tofind the package somewhere
[01:13] <orificium> yeah I don't think the package worked for me either
[01:13] <orificium> I downloaded the tar.gz
[01:14] <orificium> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu/0.20090924/+files/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu_0.20090924.tar.gz
[01:15] <orificium> should have and OSD in there as well, both go in /usr/share/mythtv/themes/
[01:18] <orificium> Seeker`: http://www.fecitfacta.com/Arclight/ is in the works for .23
[01:19] <orificium> Seeker`: Noticed this on the wiki recently - http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Blue_Abstract_Theme
[01:23] <mishehu> ok this is driving me insane.
[01:23] <mishehu> if I set the default audio device to ALSA:default, then mythmusic does send audio out to my receiver via SPDIF
[01:24] <mishehu> and if i set the default passthrough device as ALSA:iec958, I get nada (and it is unmuted in alsamixer)
[01:27] <Seeker`> orificium: how do you install a downloaded theme?
[01:59] <orificium> Seeker`: download .tar.gz   "sudo mv (package name -- use tab to autocomplete) /usr/share/mythtv/themes/"
[01:59] <orificium> then "cd /usr/share/mythtv/themes"
[01:59] <orificium> tar xvf (package name)
[01:59] <orificium> should unpack two directories
[01:59] <orificium> that's it
[02:02] <orificium> probably need to sudo the tar as well
[02:03] <superm1> you can put them in your home directory i thought too
[02:03] <superm1> in ~/.mythtv/themes
[02:33] <rhpot1991> superm1: I didn't get too far today :(
[02:33] <superm1> rhpot1991, i just got one done
[02:33] <superm1> i just did my laptop with fglrx graphics
[02:33] <rhpot1991> when this is done recording I plan on moving files
[02:33] <rhpot1991> spent a good portion of the day cleaning out old recordings
[02:34] <rhpot1991> then I had to go out and do some grocery shopping and stuffs
[02:35] <mishehu> can anybody help?  I want to get ac3/dts passthrough working.  heck, it seems like even pcm passthrough works too (if I specify aplay -d iec985 I get the sound I expect)
[03:31] <mrand> Hi Zinn.  I'm going to play with you a sec.  !help
[03:31] <mrand> !help I say
[03:31] <Zinn> !help I say For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[03:31] <mrand> !status
[03:31] <Zinn> I am alive.
[03:31] <mrand> no you aren't.
[03:31] <mrand> !about
[03:31] <Zinn> I am an IRC bot written in perl, but my code is not yet released.  I am named after Howard Zinn, you can learn more about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinn
[03:31] <mrand> Howard was a night guy, I take it... since you were named after him and all.
[03:32] <mrand> !bug
[03:33] <mrand> !rtfm
[03:33] <Zinn> http://xkcd.com/293/
[03:39] <jac1d> Good evening all.  Building up a new myth system, have the hardware here.  Display is a 1080p LCD tv.
[03:39] <jac1d> In addition to Mythtv want to be able to skype on the TV (so the kids can see grandparents) and also run rhapsody ideally (although this may require dual boot to windows)
[03:40] <jac1d> what desktop comes with mythbuntu?  can I run KDE?
[03:48] <rwlove_> just installed 9.10 and it looks like pulseaudio is the default, everything works, but no audio in mythtv... can anyone help?
[03:53] <mishehu> I wish, I can't get audio working properly on my system and I'm in 9.04
[03:53] <rwlove_> sorry to hear that
[04:03] <mishehu> rwlove_: yeah, I've got my system hooked up to a receiver via spdif optical, and I can only get mythmusic to output any real sound.  I cannot seem to convince myth to passthrough the ac3 and dts streams
[04:04] <superm1> rwlove_, you can try this: EXPERIMENTALLY_ALLOW_PULSE_AUDIO=1 mythfrontend
[04:04] <superm1> but i wouldn't expect it to work perfectly
[04:06] <mishehu> I hear so much bad stuff about pulseaudio
[04:06] <mishehu> about the latency and such
[04:06] <superm1> likewise
[04:06] <mishehu> wonder why it's still in such wide use
[04:07] <superm1> dtchen can tell you all about it
[04:07] <mishehu> of course I'm not getting myth and spdif to be friend right now either and I feel like I'm banging my head on the wall.
[05:02] <mishehu> holy crap
[05:02] <mishehu> got the audio working perfectly
[05:02] <mishehu> it was counter-intuitive though - had to set max audio channels to stereo
[05:05] <superm1> that sounds like it might be a bug ?
[05:29] <beatbreaker> question: If i install Mythbuntu Beta will it upgrade it's self to the full official release once it comes out?
[05:34] <beatbreaker> nice work on the theme by the way, it looks great!
[06:16] <superm1> beatbreaker, yes it will
[06:29] <JokerNfear> hello has anyone here successfully have mythbuntu 9.10 and a modded xbox runing xbmc with xbmcmyth installed working as front end?
[07:27] <Afterbang> !help
[07:27] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[14:46] <hipitihop> I have 9.04 installed, I have setup a card a source and done a scan and can see channel guide via mythweb but when I select "watch tv" in the front end it just returns to the menu. hints ?
[14:48] <rhpot1991> !blank | hipitihop
[14:48] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about blank
[14:48] <rhpot1991> !blank% | hipitihop
[14:48] <Zinn> hipitihop: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[14:51] <hipitihop> Zinn: sorry, not familiar with all the myth bits yet, what is the normal path you're refering to ?
[14:57] <mrand>  /var/lib/mythtv and all directories below that one
[14:57] <mrand> hipitihop ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[15:06] <hipitihop> mrand: thanks, ls -l shows drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 6 2009-10-06 00:00 recordings
[15:07] <rhpot1991> hipitihop: did you setup your tuner in mythtv-setup?
[15:08] <hipitihop> rhpot1991: yes and the scan appears to have found all the channels, mythweb shows listings too
[15:08] <hipitihop> must I setup a live tv group ?
[15:09] <rhpot1991> should automagically point at /var/lib/mythtv/recordings I think
[15:09] <rhpot1991> can double check it though
[15:13] <hipitihop> only thing pointing there in mythtv-setup storage directories is default
[16:48] <mcbane> Hi
[16:49] <mcbane> I am trying to get mythtv running on debian.I know this is a ubuntu channel, but I guess that the packages are very much alike.
[16:49] <mcbane> I always get a segfault when I try to do a channel scan. I found a bug concerning multi core cpus, but mine is a single core. Can somebody point me in the right direction?
[16:57] <mrand> mcbane: What revision of mythtv are you running?
[16:57] <mcbane> 0.21.svn20080706-0.0
[16:57] <mrand> sorry, that doesn't mean much to me.  Need a --version output
[16:59] <mcbane> mythtv --version just tries to start the frontend here. I get no version
[16:59] <mcbane> but it is 0.21
[17:00] <mcbane> ah, got it
[17:00] <mcbane> MythTV Version   : exporté
[17:00] <mcbane> MythTV Branch    : branches/release-0-21-fixes
[17:00] <mcbane> Library API      : 0.21.20080304-1
[17:00] <mcbane> Network Protocol : 40
[17:01] <mrand> Hmmm... that's old enough that it doesn't have the version in it:
[17:01] <mrand>  mythfrontend --version
[17:01] <mrand> Please include all output in bug reports.
[17:01] <mrand> MythTV Version   : 21768
[17:01] <mrand> MythTV Branch    : branches/release-0-21-fixes
[17:01] <mrand> Network Protocol : 40
[17:01] <mrand> Library API      : 0.21.20080304-1
[17:01] <mrand> oh wait, the exporte is overwriting
[17:03] <mrand> So I don't know.  It might be in the status message within mythfrontend.  Unfortunately (for you), the developers are completely focused on 0.22 and have made it pretty clear that 0.21 has all the bug fixes it is going to have
[17:03] <mrand> btw, you're using mythtvfrontend, and not mythtv, right?
[17:03] <mrand> mythtv is a test program.
[17:03] <mrand> mythfrontend I mean.
[17:04] <mcbane> I asked mythbackend and mythfrontend which are telling me the same
[17:08] <mrand> understood.  your best bet might be to look through the mythtv searchable archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ , and baring that, ask on the #mythtv-users channel or mythtv-users email list.
[17:10] <mcbane> ok, I will do that. Thanks for your time :)
[17:52] <sidh> greetings gentlemen
[17:53] <sidh> i can't find where i'm wrong !!! i can see the mythtv logo, and boot process on tv, but when mythtv starts nothing is displayed on the tv, here is my xorg.conf modified for TV output, Xorg.0.log doesn't seem to complain about it... do you see something wrong please ? http://pastebin.com/f4a9fa979
[18:05] <mishehu> do you see just a black screen with a window border in the middle but nothing else?
[18:07] <mishehu> or blank completely?
[18:08] <sidh> mishehu: no on the lcd screen i have everything
[18:08] <sidh> on the tv i have nothing at all
[18:08] <sidh> but at boot time i have everything on both
[18:09] <sidh> it seems it is when the Xorg configuration is used
[18:09] <mishehu> have you tried booting with only the tv connected to the video card?
[18:09] <sidh> no
[18:09] <sidh> let's try
[18:09] <mishehu> make sure you do a full reboot when you do that
[18:10] <mishehu> some graphics devices are funny like that (have had ati's like that in the past)
[18:10] <sidh> mishehu: i just typed reboot as root
[18:10] <mishehu> that shoudl work
[18:10] <sidh> and i suddenly get the mythbuntu logo getting emtiy
[18:11] <sidh> empty
[18:11] <mishehu> yeah that's normal shutdown procedure
[18:13] <sidh> mishehu: IT WORKS
[18:13] <sidh> but everything is black and white
[18:14] <mishehu> that's how the default theme is
[18:14] <mishehu> and it's not ALL black and white, play around with mythtv a bit and you'll see there is some color in there.
[18:15] <mishehu> the problem you seem to be having is that your lcd monitor is getting negotiated before the tv, and thus a resolution or refresh rate taht the tv doesn't support is selected.
[18:19] <sidh> mishehu: no even the menu is black and white
[18:20] <sidh> whereas onthe lcd screen i
[18:20] <sidh> it is in colour
[18:23] <mishehu> donno man
[18:23] <mishehu> the defualt theme on 9.04 was almost completely b&w
[18:24] <sidh> mishehu: no  after the theme
[18:25] <sidh> when you have menu, there is some logo (couloured square before entry menu)
[18:25] <sidh> they are b&w, not green, red, blue and so on
[18:25] <mishehu> how about when you play a file?
[18:25] <sidh> it is b&w
[18:25] <mishehu> the last time I had that problem it was due to a loose connection
[18:25] <mishehu> when using rca to connect to the tv
[18:28] <sidh> i use s-video <-> s-video
[18:29] <sidh> and it plugs into a peritel plug
[18:29] <sidh> that plugs at end into a tv
[18:52] <mishehu> argh, I just found out what my problem was with my remote control
[18:52] <mishehu> had a faulty ir receiver.  :-/
[18:52] <mishehu> what's a peritel?
[19:05] <sidh> mishehu: this is a big plug you put on the tv, like a rectangle, with a cut corner
[19:05] <sidh> with a lot of pin
[19:08] <sidh> http://www.son-video.com/Lexique/image/Peritel.gif
[19:20] <sidh> GREAT i have color on TV output  WAHHHHOOOOWWWWWWW
[20:04] <len> xfce broke for me on karmic after last nights updates.  Video goes blank after login.  If I change sesson to xterm, it works and I can launch mythfrontend.real from the terminal to get it to work, so I know it is xfce that's broken.
[20:04] <len> Anyone know what's up?
[20:07] <superm1> len, check out ~/.xsession-errors after it goes black
[20:07] <superm1> switch to a VT to do so
[20:33] <Afterbang> Hi, I have a couple questions about building a mythtv suitable dvr box
[20:39] <mishehu> sidh: is the peritel a standard type of connector?  I've not seen that before.  I'm familiar with hdmi and dvi, etc.
[20:39] <mishehu> and if it is a standard, judging by what looks like french on that link you gave, is it a european-only standard?
[20:40] <mishehu> Afterbang: well, nobody can answer you unless you ask your quesitons.
[20:40] <mishehu> the crickets are chirping in the meantime :-)
[21:27] <gunni_> Just a short question. I am running weekly trunk builds on jaunty. Is it safe to upgrade to karmic?
[21:29] <hads> Jaunty itself has been pretty stable here, I can't speak for the myth parts though.
[21:30] <mrand> gunni: what does safe mean to you?
[21:30] <mrand> If there are still some bugs being worked out, will your wife or kids divorce you?
[21:30] <gunni_> I know that trunk is not safe, just curious if the update can break something (as if version in karmic is less recent or like this)
[21:31] <hads> There are still bugs being worked out from versions gone past ;)
[21:31] <gunni_> I can live with reinstalling myth, but if database breaks would be a mess.
[21:32] <hads> That's what database backups are for
[21:32]  * gunni_ is a bit lazy sometimes
[21:32] <rhpot1991> yes, always backup your db
[21:32] <rhpot1991> gunni_: I'm wondering why you want to?
[21:32] <rhpot1991> if you are already running trunk, is there something you are trying to accomplish?
[21:33] <hads> `mysqldump mythconverg > foo.sql` I'm lazy but that's pretty easy :)
[21:33] <gunni_> Its my desktop also, and now that everything is running fine it gets boring :) I need some bugs ^^
[21:34] <mrand> gunni_: if you're willing to install and help, then we'd welcome it.  Right now pulse audio tends to get in the way on Karmic, but we're hoping to get that fixed very soon.
[21:35] <mrand> If you can disable pulse audio, then I think people are generally reporting good results.  Mostly minor regressions.
[21:35] <gunni_> I heard mythtv will completely drop puleaudio support, or stop pulseaudio if started. Heard that on mythtv channel
[21:35] <gunni_> Now pulseaudio is running fine here with mythtv
[21:36] <mrand> Depending on your config, I think it might work.  We're proposing what you describe to the mythtv team until they add support for it.
[21:37] <gunni_> maybe on weekend i bear up to upgrade to karmic then
[21:56] <Seeker`> how can I change the number of 0.5 hour slots shown on the program guide in 0.22?
[21:58] <rhpot1991> gunni_: yes, if you don't mind running beta then go for it, just keep in mind its beta so there will be some bugs
[21:59] <gunni_> rhpot1991: as i am running trunk, beta is no big deal for me. And i switched ubuntu quite often before regular release.
[21:59] <rhpot1991> go for it then
[21:59] <rhpot1991> just backup your db first, always do that to be safe :)
[22:05] <mishehu> when mplayer is called up by the default command line in mythtv, what audio device is it using?
[22:06] <superm1> mplayer isn't the default anymore
[22:06] <superm1> Internal is
[22:06] <superm1> if your DB has mplayer, you should switch it to Internal
[22:06] <mishehu> superm1: in 9.04 it is for misc video files
[22:07] <superm1> w/ 0.22?
[22:07] <mishehu> at least that's what was set on my install by default...  is internal the proper way to go for misc video files in 9.04
[22:07] <superm1> it used to be set default to mplayer yes
[22:07] <mishehu> I'm using whatever mythtv comes on 9.04
[22:08] <superm1> okay yeah disregard what i said then.
[22:08] <superm1> you can go change the default command line options for mplayer in the mythvideo settings
[22:08] <mishehu> superm1: well reason I ask is because it's downmixing a file that has an a52 5.1 stream in it to stereo
[22:09] <superm1> i think that's it's default behavior
[22:09] <superm1> you can add an option to the mplayer conf file
[22:09] <superm1> in your home directory or /etc to change it
[22:10] <mishehu> yeah I'm looking for that option in the man page
[22:10] <mishehu> so many options heh
[22:10] <mishehu> almost makes me want to replace it with xine.
[22:18] <mishehu> ok got it in the /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf file...   removed pulse from the devices, and added hwdts,hwac3 to the filters line.  now it does what I want :-)
[22:41] <Seeker`> how can I change the number of 0.5 hour slots shown on the program guide in 0.22?
[22:56] <len> I just installed kdebase because of my problems with xfce, but when I rebooted, KDE had not been added as a session option to gdm.  Still just have mythbutu, xfce, and xterm options--no KDE listed.
[23:06] <goldins> Hi, I have an geForce 6200 that I'm connecting to my sony trinitron with a VGA to Component cable. Should I expect this to work?
[23:07] <goldins> because I'm trying all sorts of things in xorg.conf and it's plainly not
[23:09] <gregL> Seeker`, What theme? If it's Graphite,you can't from what i was told by the author..
[23:16] <hads> len: kdebase isn't the full KDE desktop env
[23:17] <hads> If you want everything then you want kubuntu-desktop
[23:25] <len> That package includes all sorts of extra apps and such though, doesn't it?  I just want the KDE Desktop and a few basic utilities--will usually just use to launch mythtv until I get the xfce problem sorted out.
[23:26] <len> Isn't the kdebase package supposed to add an entry to gdm?
[23:32] <superm1> len, did ~/.xsession-errors indicate any more whats going on?
[23:32] <superm1> you might also try removing ~/.cache and ~/.config
[23:32] <superm1> possibly ~/.local too
[23:40] <hads> Use ratpoison or something
[23:43] <Seeker`> gregL: Terra (or whatever the new one is)
[23:47] <len> There were a few errors, but I couldn't tell what was causing it.  I was going to install kde, and then get back to checking into it.  I'll try deleting those files and see what happens.
[23:49] <len> I'm encountering another problem with Mythtv itself now.  When I try to record something  it just just accepts my choice be doesn't actually add it to the que.  No errors or anything.  No symbol shows up on the schedule showing it will be recorded.
[23:50] <len> I have three tuners, and they all show up as functioning and ready to record.
[23:57] <len> Any idea what might be happening?  I choose a program from the schedule, select "record only this showing", "once a week", or whatever, and hit "save changes,"  just like I always do, only now no symbol shows up on the schedule showing it will be recorded--nor does it indicated any errors or conflicts.