[01:07] join #edubuntu === ubuntu is now known as Nathan` [01:14] hi, I just installed xubuntu usb on my usb drive, but I don't know how I can easily add programs to the applications menu which I just installed (kismet and aircrack) thanks in advance [02:44] hi [02:45] hi all. xubuntu has been running fine. I love it. but now I suddenly have no panel on startup. any suggestions? [02:46] Which version are you running, Paul1957aa? [02:47] errr... 9. 04 [02:47] It happened to me once, Paul1957aa, and this fixed it for me: http://www.anujpathania.blogspot.com/2008/06/xubuntu-panels-disappear.html [02:47] thanks [02:47] Good luck! [02:49] and now my panel is back. thanks again. [03:41] my daughters somehow managed to hide or close or remove the desktop panels. How do I get them back? [03:46] GHOST maduser wootman [04:19] Hello, anyone home? [04:20] I am simply trying to get one line of code to run at every startup. [04:20] How can I do this? D:? [04:27] * takeout is gone.. autoaway after 15 min [l/on p/on] [05:52] techie-howdo?, hey can you tell me how to do a terminal command so i can see if i really wiped out w98? in my "netwrk" place it shows a picture of a computer that is labeled "windows computer"? [05:56] Would anyone be able to tell me how to set my wireless usb card as my network interface device. I just re-installed on another computer and the wifi card seems to be ignored. [05:57] I've checked to see that my computer was recognizing the device, and found that it was. [06:05] Balsaq- if it is showing up in your network center then its from another machine as while ubuntu is loaded, windows cannot possibly be loaded [06:14] techie: yeah i got into the termina;l and all its says in there in linux, extended, linux swap/solaris...so it is wiped out. no biggie but its like ubuntu knows it used to be a windows computer, becasue we dont have any other computers wxcept the g4 running leopard. [06:15] the G4 may have a samba share [06:17] its weird one day it has 2 windows computer and one apple in my network, today just one windows puter [06:17] odd [06:17] and no ubuntu or linux puters...prolly nuthin just wonderin out loud [06:17] do you have a wireless connection? [06:18] i do but its for the g4 this ubuntu/dell is hard wired to the dsl [06:18] yeah, but is the connection secured? [06:18] wep with a password [06:19] someone in your area may have sniffed your wep key [06:19] even i my wireless get s haccked it shouldnt have nuthin to do woth the dell, it plugged in [06:19] i can turn off the wireless thing right now it ill still be right here [06:20] your not understanding, your dell is connected to the network, the wireless is a part of your network... everything connected to the wireless is in your network [06:20] wow i wanted the dell secure ill throw that flippin router in the river [06:20] dont [06:20] wep keys get sniffed all the time [06:21] i used to do it myself [06:21] its not the router its just that wep was good back in its day [06:21] even so the router i have is so cheap we lose our own connwction on the g4 in the backyard 15 feet from the house [06:21] however vulnerabilities have been found in its encryption system [06:22] just change your wep key and the windows computer should hopefully dissapear [06:22] they would almost have to sit on my porch to use it its so weak [06:23] is your router located @ one end of your house? [06:23] i got an old belkin wireless router and i just got a netbook with an 802.11n wireless card and its been crapping out on me on and off since i got it [06:23] in the basement one one end yes [06:23] Balsaq- is it a concrete walled basement? [06:24] guess ill turn it off and let the jackers take that...yes concrete [06:24] aah [06:24] i know why your having signal issues [06:24] yet i would think if the router is incompatible with a 802.11n wireless card it just wouldnt get internet, right? [06:24] the metal re inforcing in the concrete walls is acting as a faraday cage [06:25] ddmnx- 802.11n just means its able to use 802.11n, it will also work with B and G based connections [06:25] Balsaq- just swap your wep key out for a new one [06:25] oooooh [06:27] yo techies, i got a random question, im assuming u guys have ur a+ certs right? im going for my essentials test next week, anything in specific i should look out for? [06:28] ddmnx- im an 18 year old that hasnt got any computer qualifications [06:28] ddmnx- i just have taught myself ALOT, peices of paper dont mean much to me [06:31] lol nice. im really new to ubuntu, but i wanna learn alot more about how linux works, and i dont wanna flood the chat with questions, u guys got any sites ud suggest? [06:31] ddmnx- google [06:31] hah. alright [06:32] that was really weird! [06:32] ddmnx- also learn how to use the forums to their full potential [06:32] welcome back bal [06:32] so what the h___ is going on [06:32] i couldnt type [06:32] you pinged [06:32] Balsaq has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) [06:33] is that becasuse i turned on the wireless g4? [06:33] move your wireless router out of your basement and change your wep key [06:34] basement helps it get hacked? [06:34] no, just makes the signal crap [06:34] well that would make it crap for hackers right [06:34] the steel reinforcing in the walls act as a faraday cage [06:34] o [06:34] Balsaq- they will have a hard time hacking it if you change your wep key every now and again [06:34] or upgrade to wpa [06:35] cause everytime my wife comes home from work i have to in the basement and turn it off and then on for her g4 to pick up the connection [06:36] im not sure if that will fix that but it will allow you to get a much better connection [06:37] i suppose i shoould also turn it off when we are not home [06:37] if you want to [06:37] are you able to upgrade to WPA? [06:37] do iahve to buy a new router or just upgrade [06:38] there may be a setting in your routers wireless settings [06:38] ill tell you though i really dont like wireless-less secure no matter how you cut it [06:39] not really wep is becoming easy to crack with regular tools [06:39] but wpa and wpa2 are still proving to be much harder to crack [06:40] however if you want to keep using wep, i would suggest changing your key atleast once a week [06:40] i read about it seemed like a long drawn out process and my neighors have a lot more money than us...i seriously doubt they are hackingg...very old people who are seldom here at all [06:40] most dont even live here in the winter [06:40] it could be people that are war driving [06:41] what the heck is that [06:41] pulling up in their car and cracking ur sh!t [06:41] from the road [06:41] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardriving [06:42] but we live on a dead end...zero and i mean zero traffic...none [06:43] i read that hack it take some time [06:43] wow [06:43] then theres something freaky going on with your network [06:43] so have we ruled out the hack yet [06:44] you are on the money with some stuff cause now it shows my wife in my network twice and one windows computer...so ubuntu knows me as windows computer? [06:45] i must have been mistaken before when i sadi 2 windows puter and the g4 [06:45] its 2 g4's and the windows puter [06:46] the 2x G4's may be caused by a ghost of the G4 laptop [06:46] yo balsaq, how do u check the computers on ur network in ubuntu? [06:47] so my wife must have 2 whipdee doos on her g4 2 log ins or something...and ubuntu has named my dell "windows....casue i dint...and i never set up the network so ubuntu did it all for me-tough being a flipping computer dork [06:47] i just went into comuter-hit file system and hit network [06:47] ddmnx- you can also issua a broadcast ping [06:48] issue* [06:48] how do u do that? [06:48] ping -b broadcast_address [06:48] di i dont see how a hard wired computer with no wifi can sence a wifi and then name in my network [06:48] who knew? [06:48] i did [06:49] wifi is just a extension of a wired connection without the use of cables [06:49] god bless new zealand [06:49] why NZ? [06:50] i dunno thought you lived there [06:50] yeah [06:50] i do [06:50] usually we say g b america you know [06:50] we usually say, thank god we got that shit working intime [06:51] just kidding [06:51] im gonna turn off the g4 and the wireless and see if it pings me off again [06:53] hes gone [06:56] welcome back [06:56] wierd...hard wired dell/ubuntu puter get booted sometimes when i turn off the wireless router [06:56] then icouldnt get back on this time until iturned the router on [06:56] is your wireless provided by the same peice of equipment that provides your wired connection? [06:56] oh now i getit [06:57] eg modem -> router -> wireless + wired [06:57] it is 2 at once that black box is... [06:57] yup that it [06:57] hehe [06:57] but the 1st time iturned it off, i got back on while it wqs off [06:57] WTF!!! [06:58] maybe there is a delay in the time [06:58] who knows [06:59] but anyway i get it now...when i got the dsl they had a specialwhere i also got the router, so it a dual thing for dsl and wireless [06:59] knowing werizon its prolly a cheapie too [07:00] but anyway a hacker running on me would need to be close too me ...right? [07:03] this ubuntu stuff is pretty amazing for being free... [07:04] hey if i run 2 monitors will it slow my ole 400mgz down to a crawl? [07:11] depends if your graphics card can handle it [07:21] hey techie need a favor [07:21] ??? [07:22] give me a second want to run some specs past you on a puter that guy want to build me... [07:24] welcome back gnomefreak [07:24] thanks [07:26] amd dual core athlon 3.0ghz 2mb cache, geforce 8400gt xp pro, (cd rom burner only?), 2gig ram pc6400, 80 gig HD 7200, and microsoft office, for 250.00 [07:26] the xp pro is service pack 3 [07:27] and the athlon is an X2 [07:27] im guessing im comparing price to hardware, not hardware to what you want to do with it? [07:28] run aorung the net email, put buntu in it, online videos like utube [07:28] tbh its a bit overpowered for net email and bas buntu [07:28] base* [07:28] the motherboard is acer ace380 [07:29] acer380 motherboard [07:29] well he says its a kind of a cheap gamer [07:29] yeah it is [07:29] but for me a cheap gamer is a powerful net runner right [07:30] yeah, but you will most likely not use most of it [07:30] but yeah, in my opinion it is a decent price [07:31] but for 250? a tech at a local computer store admitted he built his own out of a e5200 and it cost him 350 [07:31] no dvd though [07:31] and i wander if acer boards are junk too [07:32] i wouldnt be sure, i havent run an acer board before... my curren5t board is asus [07:33] i have an external dvd on this clunker i could put on it [07:34] kk [07:37] its eithe that or one of thos hp business puters P4 2.8 1 g ram for aroung 60-90 bucks...but i heard the p4 runs hot [07:37] used ones [07:37] they dont run that hot [07:37] if your worried you can always buy a decent heatsink and some high quality thermal paste [07:37] never had one this is PII [07:38] speaking of which, i have a computer that is lower spec than yours [07:38] 133mhz [07:38] 16mb RAM [07:38] hey put puppy on that one [07:39] thought you had a p4 d [07:39] i do [07:39] im allowed to have more than 1 box [07:40] hey i may have some ram for ya...i took my original 64mb out of this dell when i put in the 768 [07:40] dont worry [07:40] ill prolly find someone else to give it to [07:40] its almost useless to me [07:41] how much ram can it do [07:41] not sure [07:41] its not even SDRAM [07:41] oh what is it [07:41] not sure [07:42] its sitting in the car boot at the moment [07:43] hey cant i just take out my motherboad on this submarine and put in a used one with a modern processor and onboard video and sound and be done with it [07:43] somthing that can live on 200watts [07:43] those hp dc series are 200w [07:43] yeah [07:44] is that major surgery for a nontech [07:44] not really [07:44] its all pretty straight forward [07:44] providing you PSU is ATX [07:45] not AT [07:45] how can itell [07:45] well [07:45] says 200w 12v-6a [07:45] the white power connector that connects to the board [07:45] is it one white strip [07:45] or is it 2 parralless lines of connectors [07:46] gotta pop off the case is tooless though...one moment [07:48] getting a big flshlight [07:48] G'Day -- If I install xubuntu clean will it use Gnome Network manager or an equivalent? I need to drive a 3G modem. (currently using Ubuntu) [07:48] ok ready [07:49] nice big radiator on her [07:49] alecthegeek- xubuntu comes with its own network manager, im not sure what one it is though [07:49] okay bal - http://www.subedartech.net/docs/pc/ATX-connectors.JPG [07:50] the wide straps are light gray and the plastic connectors are white [07:50] do the connectors look similar to bottom right or top left? [07:50] looking brb [07:53] welcome back [07:53] cant really tell yet [07:54] not technically advanced enough to use that link to answer you question [07:55] well, the bottom right has one row of connectors [07:55] top left has 2 rows [07:56] i have lifetime 24/7 tech support (phone) on this casue its xps, if i call them what exactly do iask them [07:56] sigh [07:56] cause i cant tell [07:56] they probably wouldnt know [07:58] no wonder she wont die the fan is about an inch away from the cpu and the cpu is cool to the touch [07:58] haha [07:59] i have an open slot below the connector for the monitor what can i throw in ther [07:59] white plastic slot [07:59] maybe 23 inches long [07:59] 3 inches [08:00] bout to say, 23 bloody inches... [08:02] what can i put in that slot anyhting useful? [08:03] i take it that its a PCI slot [08:03] if it is you can put in another graphics card [08:03] or a wireless card [08:03] prolly its in the back where all the stuff is like sound, the monitor plug in, the ethernet [08:04] can i rundual vid cards [08:04] providing your not using an onboard video card [08:04] on my invoice it says 8mb ati agp thats dedicated right [08:05] ati xpert [08:05] not neccesarily [08:05] oh cause i paid xtra for it [08:06] well there is no fan on any card in here [08:06] but one of the boards inthose slots has what looks like memory on it [08:07] and a chip that look like the chip on my motherboard [08:09] umm, there are alot of chips on a motherboard [08:11] well the card i mean has a wide grayplug in that goes into what looks like another card for the monitor plug in [08:15] thats probably a com plug [08:15] Techie thanks for help [08:16] wait what [08:16] oh, your the network manager guy [09:14] Hey [09:14] Is it possible to change the GUI from Xubuntu? [09:36] gotta get some sleep thanks techie [09:36] night [09:37] NoQQ- you can install the package ubunut-desktop to use the gnome desktop [09:39] ubuntu-desktop* === Techie is now known as _Techie_ === _Techie_ is now known as __Techie__ === __Techie__ is now known as ___Techie___ === ___Techie___ is now known as _Techie_ [10:15] NoQQ: sure, you can customize your gui all you like [10:25] <_Techie_> heya SiDi [10:27] hi [10:28] <_Techie_> you wouldnt happen to know anything about drive recovery would you? [10:31] <_Techie_> welcome back Incurro [11:34] hi, I just installed xubuntu usb on my usb drive, but I don't know how I can easily add programs to the applications menu which I just installed (kismet and aircrack) thanks in advance [11:54] <||Z_E_R_O||> ola [12:33] <||Z_E_R_O||> my "quit" button don't works. can u help me? [12:39] !broken | ||Z_E_R_O|| [12:39] ||Z_E_R_O||: Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail. [12:41] <||Z_E_R_O||> no error message, no black screen, nothing. I press the button and nothing happens [12:41] can you check the file .xsession-errors in your home directory? [12:42] also, which button exactly? [12:42] <||Z_E_R_O||> the "quit" button [12:42] <||Z_E_R_O||> now i check the file [12:43] <||Z_E_R_O||> (xfce4-menu-plugin:4534): libxfcegui4-WARNING **: XfceAppMenuItem: unable to spawn xfce4-session-logout [12:47] looks like you found a bug [12:48] <||Z_E_R_O||> :D [12:50] <||Z_E_R_O||> any suggestion? [13:20] G'morning [13:22] <||Z_E_R_O||> re === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [14:28] hi, i have just installed xubuntu 9.04 on my old laptop, Acer travelmate 220, and I am having problems with video card...strange artifacts sometimes on screen, bad rendering of the fonts, very slow...any help or suggestion? the intel graphics is embedded into the motherboard and is an Intel Corporation 82830 CGC... [14:29] !intel [14:29] Ubuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information. [14:30] !breakfast burrito [14:30] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [14:30] :-\ [14:31] likemindead: please behave [14:41] thanks i'll go to the wiki,,, [14:50] leonardo_, I have a couple of netbooks...one of them an eee 900 with a celeron processor and the current beta seems better graphics-wise. [14:55] what beta are you using? [14:56] I am using (for now) Ubu NetBook remix 9.10 beta to play with...will try the Xubuntu 9.10 beta on another machine [14:56] Xubuntu 9.10, I'm sure. [14:56] Oh... that's what I get for assuming... [14:57] * likemindead is running Xubuntu 9.10 & loving it. :D [14:59] <[x]sodium[x]> hello [14:59] <[x]sodium[x]> i am using xbutnu can i use ubuntu themes ? [14:59] Hello [x]sodium[x] [14:59] !gtk [14:59] GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI [14:59] <[x]sodium[x]> there i get themes for xbuntu ? [15:00] xfce-look.org [15:00] <[x]sodium[x]> the fullform of xubuntu is xorg ubuntu ? [15:00] Also: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Xubuntu+themes [15:01] [x]sodium[x], as long as a package talks about GTK themes, they should work...if it is only stuff like Metacity themes...that may not work. [15:01] <[x]sodium[x]> xubuntu have gcc ? [15:01] <[x]sodium[x]> can i compile from source ? [15:02] <[x]sodium[x]> ? [15:02] <[x]sodium[x]> ? [15:03] <[x]sodium[x]> hello where r u all gone :( [15:03] [x]sodium[x], xubuntu uses the same package repos as Ubu. [15:03] Some of us have day jobs, [x]sodium[x], patience, my friend. ;) [15:03] irc may seem realtime but it's not [15:04] you havent even waited for hour yet [15:04] [x]sodium[x], sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 [15:04] <[x]sodium[x]> :D [15:04] <[x]sodium[x]> ok lemme see [15:06] <[x]sodium[x]> E: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4 [15:06] <[x]sodium[x]> E: Couldn't find package gE: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4 [15:06] <[x]sodium[x]> E: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4 [15:06] <[x]sodium[x]> cc-3.4 [15:06] <[x]sodium[x]> E: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4 [15:07] <[x]sodium[x]> sory for little flood :( [15:07] <[x]sodium[x]> but lol where i get packages which one is rihgt place for finding packages? [15:07] Look in Synaptic? [15:08] (I'm not actually in Xubuntu at the moment, maybe you have a newer version of GCC?) [15:09] Or try "sudo apt-get install gcc-" Tab Tab (complete?). [15:09] That'll give you the version in your repos. [15:10] <[x]sodium[x]> denmark@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gcc- [15:11] <[x]sodium[x]> gcc-4.2 gcc-4.2-doc gcc-4.2-multilib gcc-multilibdenmark@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gcc- [15:11] <[x]sodium[x]> gcc-4.2 gcc-4.2-doc gcc-4.2-multilib gcc-multilib [15:11] <[x]sodium[x]> gcc-4.2-base gcc-4.2-locales gcc-doc [15:11] <[x]sodium[x]> gcc-4.2-base gcc-4.2-locales gcc-doc [15:11] There you go. [15:11] sudo apt-get install gcc-4.2 [15:11] :-) [15:11] <[x]sodium[x]> 8-) [15:11] <[x]sodium[x]> :-* [15:12] <[x]sodium[x]> so now i compile from source :-D likeminddead [15:12] No, that will install the packages for you! [15:13] <[x]sodium[x]> O:-) [15:13] <[x]sodium[x]> so how can i complie tar balls ? [15:13] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware [15:13] <[x]sodium[x]> lolz [15:13] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo [15:13] click with mouses right button "extract here" [15:14] <[x]sodium[x]> :-[ [15:14] if it's just packed [15:14] <[x]sodium[x]> ok lemme see [15:14] Google is your friend, [x]sodium[x]. ;-) [15:14] <[x]sodium[x]> :D [15:15] <[x]sodium[x]> yeah i knew it i cant live without it [15:15] <[x]sodium[x]> lolz [15:16] Glad to help, but do try a little searching too. [15:16] <[x]sodium[x]> yup guys i learn something here thanks for your help [15:17] ^__^ [15:17] <[x]sodium[x]> :-* [15:25] <[x]sodium[x]> hello one more help [15:25] <[x]sodium[x]> where i get the free ssh account ;) [15:25] <[x]sodium[x]> :) :) [15:25] free shell you mean? [15:26] I use http://www.dyndns.com/ & like it. [15:26] <[x]sodium[x]> yup so u use your system as ssh server ? [15:26] Sometimes. [15:27] <[x]sodium[x]> lolz [15:27] !ssh [15:27] SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for client usage. Putty is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) [15:28] <[x]sodium[x]> :D [15:29] <[x]sodium[x]> 8-) [17:11] 0_o [17:35] <[x]sodium[x]> hello how cn i change my theme in xubuntu ? [17:35] <[x]sodium[x]> :-D [17:35] <[x]sodium[x]> hello any body litsening [17:36] <[x]sodium[x]> ? [17:36] <[x]sodium[x]> ? [17:36] <[x]sodium[x]> ? === [x]sodium[x] is now known as [0_0] [17:45] Applications > Settings > Appearance === [0_0] is now known as googler [17:47] Appearance i acn't find it ? [17:47] in my menu Appearance is not there :x [17:47] :(( [18:42] Hey can you guys tell me a way to do try FPS benchmarking? I'm trying to see if my low FPS in cedega is from cedega or Driver [18:43] Serraphyn: xgears [18:43] er [18:43] Serraphyn: glxgears [18:44] thats nto real FPS though I seen [18:44] 64453 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12890.576 FPS [18:44] <--- don't think I'm getting 12k FPS [18:45] Hm. Not giving me info at all on my laptop. Probably doing something wrong. I thought that was the way to get FPS information. [18:46] 12k fps is possible with glxgears, it's a very simple scene [18:48] I'm installing Nexuiz now, just found out it has an FPS display so I can see if its my system or cedega [19:18] <[x]sodium[x]> how can i install theme in xubuntu ? [19:18] !google [19:18] While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question. [19:25] True, true, ubottu [19:25] [x]sodium[x], I found it! http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes [19:38] <[x]sodium[x]> :-D [19:38] <[x]sodium[x]> thankssssssssssss [21:10] Hi! How do I change the icon that is displayed on the login screen (next to my user name) in xfce? [21:15] Darki: i think you have to create a .face file [21:15] which would be an image [21:19] okay, does it have to have a specific name? do I have to set it up in some config file? [21:19] what image formats are supported? or where do I look for more info (man page? howtos? etc.) [21:20] test? :) [21:21] hey folks, today i installed xubuntu on a laptop that used to have ubuntu on it....I did a fresh install with new partitions....now I can't connect to the wireless modem...I could under ubuntu....and another computer running ubuntu still CAN connect to the router [21:21] same version? [21:22] 9.04 on both [21:23] Geoffrey2, can it even see the access point? [21:23] Pres-Gas, it's looks like it's connecting, then comes back and tells me a passkey is required [21:24] Darki: i suppose png/jpg/gif, even svg [21:24] the file must be name ".face" [21:24] in your home [21:24] i didnt test it though, but if you google ".face" gdm you may find pages about it [21:25] Authentication required by wireless network...... [21:25] which is strange, because I supply the password....same one the other computer uses without difficulty..... [21:26] different tupe of key? [21:26] *type [21:26] nope, WPA for both\ [21:26] there are other settings also [21:30] what settings should i be looking at? [21:32] anyone have any suggestions on a decent accounting/money management software? [21:32] qazwsx, pencil and paper [21:33] * knome hides [21:33] lol ya that is pretty light weight i guess [21:33] yes. but whether it's decent or not depends on the user [21:34] true and the user this is for it would not be decent [21:34] hence why i am asking [21:34] ;) [21:36] actually i have no idea if one exists. [21:37] um, any suggestions? [21:37] Gnumeric? [21:38] at least it can be used to that kind of things.. [21:39] ya i have searched for some and know there are some but i just thought i would see if anyone had actually used a certain one before just randomly picking one [21:41] SiDi: thanks a lot, that helped [21:44] you're welcome [22:18] hey there, can someone here help me get a laptop with xubuntu on it connected to my wireless router? [22:19] I have a laptop that had ubuntu on it, and it connected to the network just fine....today I did a fresh install of xubuntu 9.04, installed the wireless drivers, the wireless card is up and running...I keep getting a request for the network WPA password, but it's never accepted, even though two other computers connect fine using the same password === __Techie__ is now known as _techie === _techie is now known as _techie_ [23:54] Does ATA-6 = IDE ? I'm looking to get a bigger hdd for my old laptop.