[00:26] dear empathy, please will you go for longer than 30 minutes without crashing [00:26] chriscoulson: we all wish that [00:26] heh, it's practically unusable here ;) [00:26] empathy might need a hugday [00:26] i think so [00:28] i think i need to spend some time debugging the crashes i'm seeing [00:29] i wish i had that kind of time [00:29] so do i [00:29] lol [00:30] i could do with a few extra hours in the day, so i can spend 8 hours at work + 8 hours on ubuntu without feeling tired in the morning ;) [00:32] mac_v, cody wasn't too keen on the change for update-notifier based on how it affects xubuntu w/o using humanity by default. i've pushed the icons into lp:~superm1/humanity/add-update-notifier-icon so that they can be kept directly in the humanity theme instead. can you look at that branch? === spc_ is now known as spc [02:20] asac: is bug 67226 related to that bug you fixed in g-s-d(?) in jaunty? [02:20] Launchpad bug 67226 in openoffice.org "Font is too blurry in firefox interface and pages rendering" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67226 [02:20] asac: did the fix fall out? [02:21] asac: if i remember correctly there was still a race that would be sometimes hit and cause an issue with it not setting the values [02:48] dear empathy, please will you go for longer than 30 minutes without crashing [02:48] heh, empathy runs for weeks if i want? [05:27] superm1: hi... i'm not comfortable adding the icons to Humanity. 1: they dont fit the theme , the icons are styled differently from the rest of the panel icons and the colors are totally out of humanity's palate , adding them would lead to bugs asking for monochrome icons 2: the gconf change is not supported in Ubuntu , so i dont think adding those icons for users conveys the message of it being a *not* supported option. 3:changing the icon for [05:27] Mythbuntu sake affects Ubuntu as well , so i'd rather think Mythbuntu changes its default to not show the icon or use the current icon as is. [05:34] mac_v, ok. will have to look into using a different icon theme probably for mythbuntu then. thanks for looking [05:36] superm1: thanks [07:45] Good morning [07:46] yuriy: should it call some QtSomething.quit() before exit()? [08:26] good morning there [08:31] hey seb128 [08:31] hey pitti [08:31] seb128: ooh, great to see bug 438065 fixed *phew* [08:32] Launchpad bug 438065 in brasero "Karmic: DVDs cannot be mounted in GNOME" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/438065 [08:32] pitti, it was on my radar for a bit sorry that it took efforts from other people to figure what was going on [08:33] debian backported the change during our beta freeze I had planned to look at it after beta ... which is now ;-) [08:35] pitti, oh btw, did you write instructions to debug those sort of issues? [08:35] bug #444083 [08:36] Launchpad bug 444083 in rhythmbox "Samsung YP-U3 (MTP) not recognized by Rhythmbox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/444083 [08:36] pitti, what would be useful? devkit-disks --dump call? udevsomething? [08:36] ah, still not yet, sorry [08:37] udevadm info --export-db when the device is plugged in [08:37] * seb128 asks on the bug [08:37] pitti, danke [08:56] hmmm, bug 440733 is wierd [08:56] DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10 [08:57] Bug 440733 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/440733 is private [08:57] ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.28-15.52-generic [08:57] i thought people would acually use the latest kernel package [08:58] chrisccoulson: at least it might explain a few problems :) [08:58] heh, perhaps apport should stop them from reporting it until they've upgraded ;) [08:59] unless it's a bug report about an upgrade failure :) [08:59] yeah, i suppose so ;) [08:59] or that the new kernel doesn't boot [09:01] yeah, it's pretty bad if that happens and you can't report it [09:07] maxb: I consider bug 82654 to be much more important as it is entirely to easy now to move a window to a position where you cannot move it back. We also have bug 221698 fixed though, as much as we can. If you try to move a window with alt-click or the window menu (alt-space, m) it will let you move it under the top panel. Everybody happy. :) [09:07] Launchpad bug 82654 in compiz "Windows can be positioned with title bar below gnome-panel" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82654 [09:07] Launchpad bug 221698 in hundredpapercuts "Cannot resize window taller than screen (inconsistent with metacity)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221698 [09:14] chrisccoulson: I see you got to see some of the fun I've been having with certain bug reporters :) [09:16] Amaranth - which one was that? [09:16] the clock shadow bug [09:17] ah yes [09:17] mac_v: Hey [09:17] i wish people would check before re-opening reports ;) [09:17] lool: hi... thanks for the update :) phew ... [09:18] mac_v: You dup-ed three bugs against the humanity update bug and all three were wrong :-/ [09:18] mac_v: the two bug from oliver are still an issue after the update [09:18] lool: kindly read my last comment [09:18] and the bug from matt is a dup of the ubuntuone bug [09:18] chrisccoulson: They did that too me for 3 of the bugs that upload fixed [09:18] a/too/to/ [09:19] mac_v: I actually asked oliver to file these bugs because the two use cases felt somewhat close to the system service use case [09:19] lool: mat's bug was what the random icons bug was about initially[ubuntu one icons are used in color] , you changed the title later [09:19] lool: oh ok [09:19] but those will break apps :/ [09:19] lool: the icons will get displayed in the system menu [09:20] greyscale icons* [09:20] mac_v: Duping the bugs is not the proper way to close them though; I think in these cases we want input from the design team on whether these icons should be b&w too or not; but that's lucid material [09:20] lool: ok... but they need to be marked as bugs in their packages too [09:20] since nothing can be done from doing icons in Humanity alone [09:21] the apps need patches too [09:21] mac_v: I think the line is thin [09:22] hmm ;) [09:22] mac_v: humanity has gpm icons and icons [09:22] evolution takes ages to close there [09:22] mac_v: But sure, it could be pushed to the apps [09:22] I blame the indicator code, it's spamming the session bus with updates while takes ages to close [09:23] heh, the indicator stuff spams the session bus continuously ;) [09:23] lool: sure.. i dont mind unduping and doing icons... but the apps *will* need patches... so i'd rather wait for them... i didnt know you had asked Oliver to file bugs ;) [09:23] mac_v: I mean I'm not the one who does the work of producing these icons; from my perspective though, I dont expect all individual apps to grow these icons [09:23] chrisccoulson, not really [09:23] it seems to here :/ [09:23] chrisccoulson, I can't open the indicator applet while evolution is closing [09:23] chrisccoulson, the menu seems to get a refresh every second or so [09:23] so as soon I click on it it's closed [09:23] I don't get that issue while evolution is running [09:24] hmmmm [09:24] just when it's being closed [09:24] mac_v: if you think the app needs to change instead, then you could reassing the bug to the apps' package; IMO it will be hard to track the bugs if we do it in this way, and the people who are likely to do the work are the humanity folks (ie you) [09:25] mac_v: Perhaps you might want to consider starting a humanity-gnome-system-icons project for karmic+1? [09:25] mac_v: Anyway, tenriely up to you; I think the decision of having an icon b&w or not should be the design team's and I just care that we dont close the bugs [09:25] lool: surely you cant expect us to do icons for all the apps ;) ... i'd say undup them and add the concerned apps in the also affects , once the apps assign new labels for notification area , the icons can be done [09:26] mac_v: I already unduped them [09:26] lool: also... i'm not sure if humanity will be used for Lucid ;) .. kwwii is starting a new icons theme [09:26] icon theme* [09:26] mac_v: I dont expect you to do all apps; I had in mind that the official ubuntu desktop or official gnome apps which *also* have an icon in the notification-area which is *also* a system service need an icon [09:27] seb128: hi you try to upload empathy yesterday but it fails as it's a point release with new tarball [09:27] mac_v: i dont know either [09:27] seb128: hi you try to upload empathy yesterday but it fails as it's a point release with new tarball [09:27] oups [09:27] mac_v: I think vino and display-properties are good examples of things which are distributed as apps but kind of feel like system services [09:27] mac_v: I mean, there's a screen icon in OSX to reconfigure your screen for instance [09:28] lool: yeah , you are right , but as i said , the icons will get displayed in the system menu too [09:28] that is not ideal [09:28] mac_v: That's an interesting technical issue; I'm sure we can fix it [09:28] bigon, hey, oh thanks for noticing, I will reupload, I forgot to use the option to include the tarball since that was 1ubuntu1 version... [09:29] Please don't change tomboy's icon :) [09:29] mac_v: We could patch apps to use two icons, one for n-a one for menu, or patch the panel to change the lookup path for n-a icons [09:29] the panel doesn't control that [09:29] lool: exactly what i'v been trying to ask the devs to do... but no one is doing it :( [09:29] mac_v: Anyway, this is all lucid stuff; do what you want with it [09:30] seb128: thx [09:30] lool: bluetooth , for example... asac needs to be convinced [09:30] mac_v: Well if you want to do that, you need to market your project and communicate visibly on it; I didn't see anything myself [09:30] mac_v: For instance you could write a wiki page on the ubuntu wiki stating the problem [09:30] Explaining the rationale for the change and the technical implementation details [09:31] mac_v: That's what we usually do in blueprints [09:31] lool: interesting.. i'd like to do more icons , but when humanity is not going to be used for Lucid... spending too much time on this is not ideal for me ;p ... i'd like the UX to confirm what their plans are.. or atleast that they would carry forward these icons into the new Lucid theme [09:31] mac_v: There's no requirement that you do that as a blueprint, but it's the best way to do it [09:32] blueprint = paper work [09:32] mac_v: Right; I cant help you there sadly [09:32] if you like doing paper work ;-) [09:32] haha [09:32] Well it's also a mean of getting things officially approved and tracked for release [09:32] * mac_v hates paperwork ;p [09:32] If you ask me to do changes out of the blue, I need to be convinced [09:32] lool: yes.. i'll talk to kwwii and mat [09:33] If you ask me to implement changes in an approved blueprint, I kind of assume we want the changes [09:33] And RMs have the power to nag me about it [09:33] lool: bluetooth already has a patch > Bug #437162 [09:34] Launchpad bug 437162 in gnome-bluetooth "Missing monochrome icon for bluetooth applet" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/437162 [09:34] so that the greyscale icon isnt used in the menu [09:37] * mac_v bbl [10:41] morning all! [10:42] Any Mini 9 users around? Could anyone please help with bug #77010? [10:42] Launchpad bug 77010 in module-init-tools "Overuse of system beep without volume control" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77010 [11:00] pitti: morning! [11:01] pitti: any ideas/suggestions regarding #77010? [11:07] hey mat_t; sorry, I don't [11:07] TheMuso: any idea what could cause a system beep on mini 9's, with snd_pcsp annd pcspkr blacklisted? [11:09] mvo: yay, the gnome-codec-install svn branch is finally correctly imported with all the translations :) [11:15] re [11:15] hum, no compiz on karmic on my i965 now [11:16] oh, no it's back, weird [11:16] session restart to try that [11:21] mac_v, thanks for fixing #385903, I can now sleep again at nights [11:22] :) which bug is that [11:23] bug #385903 [11:23] Launchpad bug 385903 in human-icon-theme "File > Close icon looks odd in Firefox and Thunderbird" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/385903 [11:23] andreasn: hehe ;) [11:28] ok, works now, that's weird [11:28] mvo: So my comment on the software store screenshots yesterday? [11:28] I got xorg in software acceleration for one boot [11:28] mvo: You dropped off before I got back to you, so I commented in the bug [11:28] seb128: hi... any reason for the patch in Bug #44082 not yet being applied ... several claim it fixes the issue [11:28] Launchpad bug 44082 in hundredpapercuts "GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44082 [11:28] seb128: was it a reboot or just logout/login? [11:29] lool, reboot [11:29] mac_v, the patch is not trivial, could break other thing and has not been reviewed by somebody knowing the code [11:30] mac_v, I've been trying to get vuntz to review without success [11:30] seb128: aw... :( [11:30] "aw"? [11:31] awwww... as in > sad *sigh*... [11:31] seb128: thanks for syncing all new gstreamer stuff :) [11:31] I think I will do a lunch break or I will start doing some not so nice comments about users whining all the time [11:32] slomo, you're welcome, about the decodebin changes for gst-plugins-base do you plan to apply those to debian? do you have an updated changeset I could apply? [11:32] slomo, the bug has a zillion patches it's not easy to track [11:36] seb128: the updated changeset are all non-obsolete patches in the bug (in the order that's written on them) [11:36] mac_v: I looked at it and I still don't understand why this would fix it, so I'm a bit reluctant to commit it [11:36] seb128: i'll upload this the patches to experimental later today [11:36] slomo, thanks [11:36] mac_v: (working on crashers at the moment, so, hrm, question of priority ;-)) [11:36] vuntz: sure no probs.... thanks :) [12:07] kenvandine: hm, when I click on a person's conversation in the indicator, empathy crashes now [12:11] pitti - that happens all the time for me too [12:11] it's not something new though :-/ [12:11] but it worked for me before [12:11] well, it still crashed sometimes, but at least it often worked [12:12] pitti - it always crashes for me if the person and/or conversation window disappeared [12:13] it seems to also crash if ive already looked at the conversation window before clicking on the indicator [12:13] it crashes about every 20 minutes on my desktop ;) [12:18] pitti: the crash I always get is with nick serve on irc. It remains showing up in indicator applet if you click on it again it kills empathy [12:19] chrisccoulson , pitti: Bug #271258 , probably we need to add it to the gspca module blacklists.. [12:19] Launchpad bug 271258 in linux "Acer Orbicam gspca's module fails" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271258 [12:19] davmor2 - that situation consistently crashes it for me too [12:19] mac_v - quite possibly [12:20] i find a lot of entries remain in the indicator applet after you've clicked them, and when you click them again, it always crashes [12:20] should it be sent upstream or somewhere? [12:21] probably why empathy crashes so often for me [12:22] mac_v, the indicator things are not upstream code but ted's and kenvandine's rather [12:23] seb128: oh... i was mentioning upstream for the gspca... damn irc delays :/ [12:23] oh ok [12:24] slomo: weeh, cool! [12:24] mvo, what is cool? [12:24] lool: yeah, I saw it, I'm not sure yet what to do, I guess best is to provide scrollbars/resize handling for unr [12:24] seb128: gnome-codec-install is imported into lp [12:24] ah ok, nice [12:25] mvo, speaking of which do you want to do the update? there is a new version in debian slomo said we should have [12:26] seb128, mvo: the "--transient-for" and "ignore other commandline parameters" part would be good to have [12:27] seb128: it looks like a simple update, I have a look [12:27] mvo, thanks [12:27] and if its in bzr imported it should be even more trivial ;) [12:28] mvo: but i won't use bzr to work on it :P but the svn->bzr import seems to run every 6 hours so that shouldn't be a problem [12:28] slomo, you like svn better than bzr? [12:28] weird ;-) [12:28] slomo: sure, no need to use bzr on your side, but I will use it :) [12:30] seb128: no, but i don't want to learn just another distributed version control system... i prefer git but i already have to use hg for other things, two should be enough ;) [12:30] seb128: svn isn't great but at least it's simple ;) [12:30] right [12:31] you can use bzr as svn though, bzr get, bzr commit, bzr push [12:31] but whatever everybody uses the tools he wants ;-) [12:31] seb128: or bzr checkout then bzr commit pushes for you [12:31] Amaranth, you don't always want to push every commit online [12:31] but right ;-) [12:32] bzr commit --local [12:32] ;) [12:32] * seb128 doesn't start this discussion [12:32] * mvo takes off his so-clever hat now [12:32] Amaranth, btw compiz crashing today, it had been a long time that didn't happen [12:32] seb128: but svn does so it's similar [12:32] seb128: I blame mvo [12:32] I blame your update [12:32] apport? [12:33] also what is crashing? there is still a somewhat common crash with alt-tab that isn't fixed because we only have new compiz and staticswicher is in plugin-main [12:34] * mvo just discovered bzr merge -i and he loves it [12:35] Amaranth, sec [12:35] #0 0x00d5a661 in switchTerminate (d=0x8f48168, action=0x9cc2874, [12:35] state=CompActionStateTermKey, option=0xbfc566fc, nOption=4) [12:35] at staticswitcher.c:759 [12:35] #1 0x0806c487 in handleEvent () [12:36] yep, that's it [12:36] new compiz-fusion-plugins-main snapshot will fix it [12:37] ok thanks [12:37] so you were right to blame it on mvo? ;-) [12:38] hehe [12:38] speaking of compiz being broken, it seems the ati drivers are reporting 2048 for max texture size but only supporting 1024 or 512 :/ [12:38] so people are losing their wallpaper [12:39] Amaranth: hm? so core needs a new plugins-main? [12:39] mvo: it doesn't need it but it will fix that bug [12:39] mvo: that bug has been there for some time though [12:40] the core update fixed it in switcher but staticswitcher had the same bug [12:41] grrrr at apport-collect [12:41] 21 emails for one command run, come on [12:42] did we change anything recent which would clean things in tmp on upgrade? [12:42] I blame it on mvo's too [12:43] or could be a doko thing [12:44] mvo, bug #444252 is weird, have you seen that before? [12:44] Launchpad bug 444252 in gconf "gconf-schemas: OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/444252 [12:44] installed started breaking on [12:44] " names = os.listdir(path) [12:44] OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/gconf-BBrcKQ'"" [12:44] which is weird since the gconf code didn't change in ages [12:44] we got 5 bugs in 7 hours about this now [12:45] seb128: some sort of race where a tmp reaper attacks? [12:45] seb128: I don't think I have seen that [12:45] Amaranth: aha, thanks. I will do a update of the remaining ones [12:46] seb128: no, I don't clean /tmp in u-m [12:46] mvo, ok, thanks [12:46] mvo, I think we will need to put it on the karmic radar if we continue getting bugs about it [12:46] seb128: how many do we have already? [12:47] mvo, 5 in 7 hours [12:47] 6 [12:47] keeps counting, I'm looking at the recent upgrade bugs [12:48] hrm, bad [12:48] thanks [12:49] mvo, ok, we got 6 of those so far and that started 7 hours ago [12:50] interessting, I guess we should just check what got uploaded around this time [12:50] I didn't spot anything obvious [12:50] gconf didn't change for a month [12:50] and there has been no python* upgrade yesterday [12:51] hmm [12:51] I'm in the middle of an upgrade [12:51] ** (gnome-open:15119): WARNING **: Can not stat /tmp/orbit-jw2328 [12:51] uh [12:51] sounds like the same issue [12:51] and my /tmp is all but empty [12:51] some rogue rm in a postinst? [12:51] anyone running grub2? [12:52] asac, not me [12:52] some bug reporter says he cannot select kernel there [12:52] is there a magic key-combo or something? [12:54] asac: hold down shift [12:54] otherwise you don't get the menu and it just picks the most current one [12:54] k [12:54] thx [12:55] i think some output telling the user that would be helpful ;) [12:55] james_w: i run a test upgrade now to check if I can see that too [12:56] asac: output telling the user that would defeat the purpose of doing it [12:56] hmm [12:56] k [12:57] seb128: hm, the gnome-codec-install merge is more difficult than I had hoped, looks like the svn import did something to the branch, I can not merge and everything is unhappy [12:57] seb128: I may have to blow away the old ~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-codec-install branch [12:58] ok [12:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/286921/ [12:59] ^ packages uploaded in the last 24 hours, any guesses? [13:00] How about packages uploaded in the last 24 hours that are getting updated or installed on your system? [13:00] Should cut half that list out, I hope [13:01] yeah yeah [13:01] I did try some "ls -l | grep 2009-10-06 | awk '{print $8}' | xargs grep rm" [13:01] in /var/lib/dpkg/info [13:01] but no luck so far [13:03] well /tmp goes away if you unmount it, perhaps something is doing that? [13:03] no, that wouldn't work, it would fail to unmount because there are files open [13:04] http://paste.ubuntu.com/286925/ [13:04] sorted by publishing time [13:04] we're looking ~9 hours ago I think [13:05] asac, did you do any maintainer script tweaking yesterday in your uploads? [13:05] not compiz [13:05] my test-upgrade is at ~33% and /tmp is still going strong [13:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/286929/ [13:07] upgraded packages today [13:10] seb128: http://pastebin.be/21257 :( [13:10] bigon, yes, should be fixed now sorry for the spamming [13:10] bigon, ie check you mail again in a minute [13:11] seb128: in gnome-main-menu? [13:11] no [13:11] afaik i idndt change anything [13:11] asac, no, in any of the nm uploads [13:11] i cant remember doing that [13:11] whats the problme? [13:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/286936/ [13:11] intersection [13:12] asac, we are looking for something uploaded this night which wipe tmp on upgrade and breaks those [13:12] urgh [13:12] no i dont do that i hope [13:12] seb128: ok no problem :) [13:14] only package in compiz that has a postinst is compiz-gnome which just runs gconf-schemas (same for prerm) [13:16] Does this only happen on upgrades from jaunty? I'm up-to-date and haven't had this problem [13:16] No I'm not, have "binutils locales os-prober pm-utils software-center" available for upgrade [13:16] do we have a script to quickly gen debdiffs of latest upload for packages? [13:16] Perhaps that narrows it even further? [13:17] Amaranth, no, those are karmic to karmic upgrades and I didn't get the issue too [13:17] I'm trying to look at the packages in james_w's that I'm not using [13:17] could be a non standard package [13:20] oh, I took the intersection of binary packages and source packages [13:20] that's not going to work too well [13:22] i am doing a full upgrade too atm. will see [13:22] james_w: hm, it seems to be not in the default install, I did a test upgrade and tmp seems to be fine, I will try one with the packages you listed next [13:22] full == one week no karmic update [13:23] thanks mvo [13:29] libvirt has [13:29] " * debian/libvirt-bin.cron.daily: added to clean out old profiles that are no [13:29] longer associated with a virtual machine definition (LP: #438165)" [13:29] but I can't see anything obvious wrong there [13:29] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33073545/libvirt_0.7.0-1ubuntu8_0.7.0-1ubuntu9.diff.gz [13:29] if somebody want to have a look [13:29] no, the find is in an another dir, probably not it [13:30] looking at diffs from the likely uploads doesn't show anything obvious [13:36] slomo: hm, what is the svn location of the upstream branch for gonme-codec-install ? did that move [13:37] hmm, if apport says a bug is a potential regression (it thinks it's a dupe of a fixed bug) it should still provide the trace :/ [13:44] james_w: are you sure that you didnt accidentially remove your /tmp/ by some other operation while you were upgrading? ;) [13:45] oh yeah, I ran "rm -rf /tmp/*" because I wanted to see what would happen! [13:45] my laptop upgrade now finished (got 900m of archives) [13:45] had no issue [13:46] asac, see bug #444252 [13:46] Launchpad bug 444252 in gconf "gconf-schemas: OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/444252 [13:46] kk [13:46] if there are dupes we can rule that out i guess [13:46] asac, either 8 users did that accidentally today or there is a bug somewhere [13:47] bigon, did you testbuild your empathy upgrade? [13:48] seb128: bigon: can you bump lower version on libnm-* stuff to >= 0.8~a~git.20091005t192303 ? [13:49] asac, why? can't we just wait for your version to be published on buildds rather than use an artificial requirements breaking backports etc? [13:49] would be helpful to ensure that we use the paddings we added to ABI in future updates [13:49] seb128: its published [13:49] seb128: its just not built on all archs [13:50] seb128: nevermind. sparc has built now [13:50] cool [13:50] I like it better to not require versions which are not needed, make easier to do builds on non uptodate boxes for those who want [13:50] well [13:50] we added padding to ABI as i said ... [13:51] so building against that is helping for future [13:51] but its fine now ;) ... and the api parts used by empathy probably dont need it anyway [13:51] and we will rebuild empathy before karmic anyway [13:51] pitti: no, nevermind, that's not the issue I think [13:51] GNOME 2.28.1 updates [13:51] I'm heading for dinner [13:51] found nothing so far [13:52] james_w, enjoy your dinner, I didn't find anything either [13:52] james_w, did you try grepping in maintainer scripts? [13:52] feels a bit like its something in the auto generated debhelper stuff [13:52] a little [13:53] have fun james_w [13:53] I didn't narrow it down though [13:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/286956/ for your grepping pleasure [13:56] pitti, hum, what info do you look for in http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33118022/output.txt? [13:57] james_w, cat thislist | xargs grep rm? [13:57] or tmp, or find [13:57] lots and lots [13:57] I'll look after eating [13:57] enjoy your dinner [13:58] % xargs grep rm < /tmp/scripts| wc -l [13:58] 1315 [13:58] seb128: that's for a music player? I can't find one there [13:58] seb128: hm, I just had a X restart during a test dist-upgrade - might that be gdm? [13:58] pitti, that's the bug I pinged you about [13:59] mvo, no [13:59] seb128: I'd look for the vendor/product strings/ID and compare them against /lib/udev/rules.d/90-usb-media-players.rules [13:59] seb128: I tought I did [13:59] pitti, "Samsung YP-U3 (MTP) not recognized by Rhythmbox" [13:59] bigon, the libindicate patch doesn't apply [13:59] mmm [13:59]