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CIA-33ubiquity: shtylman * r3498 trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs):04:59
CIA-33ubiquity: Limit width of side breadcumbs in kde for long translation text.04:59
CIA-33ubiquity: Using elided text where needed (LP: #438918)04:59
rgreeninghey shtylman05:09
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arthur_lhi all09:51
davmor2hello09:51
arthur_lon an installer when doing the partitionning of the dual boot option09:52
arthur_lthe default size of the ubuntu partition is 2.5G09:52
cjwatsonthere's a bug about that, it's supposed to depend on the partition you're resizing to make room09:52
arthur_lis there a way of setting a bigger value in the preseed ?09:52
arthur_lthe disk is 160G and the last partition has 80M of data on it09:53
arthur_lcjwatson: do you have a reference to that bug ?09:53
cjwatsonnot offhand, no09:53
cjwatsonsomewhere on ubiquity but that doesn't narrow it down much09:53
cjwatsonI don't think the resizer is preseedable unfortunately, we just need to fix it09:54
cjwatsonarthur_l: BTW which installer are you using, just to check?09:54
arthur_ljaunty ?09:55
arthur_l(am using remastersys)09:55
cjwatsonno, which installer09:55
cjwatsontext-mode, graphical, ...09:55
cjwatsonalternate/desktop/whatever09:56
arthur_lgraphical09:57
CIA-33usb-creator: evand * r229 trunk/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/install.py): (log message trimmed)10:26
CIA-33usb-creator: * usbcreator/install.py:10:26
CIA-33usb-creator:  - Do not copy /syslinux/syslinux.cfg to root of disk, no longer needed.10:26
CIA-33usb-creator:  - Look at all files ending in .cfg under the syslinux directory when10:26
CIA-33usb-creator:  updating configuration files based on the options selected in usb-creator.10:26
CIA-33usb-creator:  - Strip tabs when parsing iso/syslinx config files to correctly identify10:26
CIA-33usb-creator:  commands in a syslinux config file that indents lines.10:26
davmor2meh today's image still has r153 on :(10:30
* evand checks10:38
evanddavmor2: I disagree :).  I just pulled down the Ubuntu 20091006 amd64 image and it has wubi r15610:45
ubottuError: Ubuntu bug 20091006 could not be found10:45
* evand kicks ubottu10:45
davmor2evand: Ah yeah my bag.  I was looking at the rev number on the remover D'oh10:49
davmor2evand: sorry to alarm you with that one :)10:53
evandno worries10:54
davmor2evand: locked up on 7%, text says scanning disks11:01
CIA-33debian-installer: ogra * r1184 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog control): debian/control: move redboot-imx51-babbage to the bootloader section in the comments, run debian/genbuilddeps so the new build-dep gets actually picked up11:03
davmor2Right I'm going to try a fresh vista and try again11:14
evanddavmor2: when you say locked up, do you mean completely, or can you ctrl-alt-f2?11:56
davmor2evand: I'm wondering if it might just be a bit of hiccup so I'm starting with a clean vista.  and only the install locked up11:58
davmor2evand: Ah fscking wubi.  Now locks up at 100% on text computing the new partitions....12:09
evandcan you switch to a virtual terminal?12:09
davmor2evand: Nope12:09
evandlovely12:10
davmor2evand: can't bring up alt-f2 either12:10
evandalt-f2 wont work12:10
evandyou're not in a gnome session12:10
* davmor2 reboots to check the wubi log in vista12:11
evanddoes the mouse move?  do you have a flashing caps lock light?12:11
evandthe wubi log isn't going to have anything relevant to it locking up at this point12:11
davmor2evand: mouse move, no flashing caps12:11
evandbut you cannot get ctrl-alt-f2 to work?12:12
davmor2fortunately hadn't rebooted12:12
davmor2No I just tried a-c-F1->F6 none of them worked12:13
evandokay12:15
davmor2evand: I don't know if it's relevant but I'm getting a single flashing light from the hd,  once a second roughly and only for a split second.12:16
davmor2hd led I should say12:16
evandI don't suppose you have a serial cable, a serial port, and another computer with a serial port?12:17
davmor2no cable I don't think.  Give me a bit to rummage through my box of bits12:19
evand(I'm assuming this windows installation is on physical hardware and not in a virtual machine)12:20
davmor2evand: yeap12:22
davmor2evand: No lead sorry :(12:26
evandno worries12:26
davmor2evand: is it worth getting a lead?12:35
evandI can't say for certain.  If there is indeed a kernel panic here, and you have a serial port on both machines, it should allow us to capture it.12:36
davmor2evand: on a weird note I can switch to terminal just before it stops12:49
evandperhaps it's just me, but the latest daily live CD seems to be horrendously broken in partman-commit.12:50
davmor2evand: I haven't run any real tests.  That might explain the issues in wubi too would it?12:51
davmor2evand: I'm just running it an install on another box12:53
davmor2evand: detecting filesystems... I get a window popup that has a no entry sign and a bunch of ?s12:57
evanddavmor2: are you able to log in quick enough to tail -f /var/log/kern.log? (for the wubi install)12:57
evandyeah, that's what I'm seeing as well12:57
davmor2evand: I can drop into terminal before it locks up yes12:58
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3499 ubiquity/debian/ (3 files):12:59
CIA-33ubiquity: Stop Upstart jobs when switching to runlevel 0 or 6, which I think fixes12:59
CIA-33ubiquity: repeated respawns on shutdown (LP: #432140).12:59
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3500 ubiquity/debian/changelog: r3494 fixed LP: #44162213:02
NCommanderI'm writing a new partman module for armel+dove to allow us to sanely support manual partitioning13:05
NCommanderWhat's the best way to test said module once its compiled into a udeb13:05
CIA-33casper: cjwatson * r706 trunk/ (debian/changelog scripts/casper): Merge from lp:~tormodvolden/casper/inspect-dm: Scan device-mapper (RAID) devices for live filesystem (LP: #385305).13:08
cjwatsonNCommander: easiest way is to put it on a web server and write a little preseed file that fetches and udpkg -i's it in preseed/early_command13:09
cjwatsone.g. from an earlier test of mine:13:09
cjwatsond-i preseed/early_command string wget http://riva.pelham.vpn.ucam.org/~cjwatson/tmp/partman-lvm_66ubuntu2_all.udeb && udpkg -i partman-lvm_66ubuntu2_all.udeb13:09
davmor2evand: okay weirder.  If I drop into the terminal before it dies at 100% it continues through to 7% scanning disks and then the install dies.13:10
cjwatsonNCommander: if you make the bzr branch owned by ~ubuntu-installer, I can (a) add you to that team (b) help13:10
NCommandercjwatson, I'm still assembling the udeb, but I think I need to be in the team before I can move a branch to it13:10
NCommander(I'm basically castrating partman-ext2r0 to do what I want, since its 90% of what I needed already)13:11
davmor2lunch13:11
cjwatsonNCommander: added you13:11
NCommandercjwatson, thanks13:11
cjwatsonNCommander: using another partman module as a base is normal enough - please use partman-ext2r0 from d-i svn as your base, though, as it converts to debhelper v7 and that'll save me doing it again to your branch. :)13:12
cjwatson(and no need to preserve the changelog from -ext2r0 or anything)13:12
ograthough castrating sounds scary ... if you make a mistake, doesnt it reproduce itself *with* that bug then ? :P13:14
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3501 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): Save /var/log/installer/debug to the target system if it exists.13:19
NCommandercjwatson, argh, I already based off the source package >.<;13:23
NCommandercjwatson, can I just rip the debian folder from d-i svn?13:23
cjwatsonjust svn log and svn diff ...13:23
NCommandercjwatson, /me nods13:23
* NCommander fails13:23
NCommandercjwatson, as a second note, we don't have working alternatives for the dove just yet. Is there an easy(ish) way to test with ubiquity :-)?13:30
cjwatsonwah13:31
cjwatsonuh, pain in excelsis13:31
cjwatsonI don't suppose it's just a simple matter of programming to bring d-i up?13:31
cjwatsonwell. you *can* drop the source package into d-i/source/ and fiddle with d-i/lists/armel and ubiquity/ubiquity.install.armel or whatever the files are to get the bits installed13:32
cjwatsonif it's not doing anything too complicated then that might work13:32
cjwatsonif it is then you might have to extend ubiquity/components/partman.py too (avoid if possible)13:32
NCommandercjwatson, well, we need ubiquity in all cases :-/13:34
NCommander^it in13:35
NCommandercjwatson, I might spend some cycles fixing the alternate cds13:35
cjwatsonright, it's just a lot easier to bring it up in d-i first if at all possible13:35
ograthe d-i env should be working, shouldnt it ?13:37
ograit will just not properly install13:37
cjwatsonwhere does it fall over?13:38
* ogra only knows that imx doesnt get past CD detection, but the netinst works far enough here to get to partman for testing13:39
NCommandercjwatson, d-cd just needs to be hit hard to pass the correct options so d-i can find its brain13:42
NCommander(try-usb isn't passed in)13:42
* NCommander is trying to figure out how to regenerate the templates ...13:43
cjwatsondebconf-updatepo13:46
CIA-33partman-iscsi: cjwatson * r29 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 414:01
evandcjwatson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/286961/ is that target location okay by you?14:09
cjwatsonevand: yeah, that should be fine14:10
cjwatsonthanks for dealing with that14:10
evandok cool14:11
evandsure thing14:11
NCommandercjwatson, pushed to lp:~ubuntu-installer/partman-uboot/ubuntu. Completely untested ATM14:17
turtle4464cjwatson, i have tried installing ubuntu 9.10 alphas 5 and 6 as well as the beta, but it crashes on the installation of grub 2 to the MBR14:24
cjwatsoncould I see the full logs plese?14:25
cjwatsonplease, rather14:25
turtle4464ummm, i pasted a pastebin of them in #grub channel last saturday morning, but i can't see the logs because it was from a livecd, are they kept online like ubuntu logs?14:26
turtle4464err one sec, my friend who i pasted them to is getting them for me14:27
turtle4464sorry cjwatson, still looking for the logs14:29
turtle4464cjwatson, here http://pastebin.ca/159070714:31
turtle4464cjwatson, here is the second http://pastebin.ca/159077414:33
cjwatsonany particular reason you posted snippets of the logs rather than just the whole syslog file?14:36
turtle4464cjwatson, i only posted the part where the installer was trying to install grub, because thats where the installer crashed14:37
cjwatsonI don't debug incomplete syslogs14:37
turtle4464does that log have anything useful?14:37
cjwatsonit says that the dmraid set is broken14:37
cjwatson#14:37
cjwatsonOct  3 15:05:44 ubuntu ubiquity: ERROR: isw device for volume "Volume0" broken on /dev/sda in RAID set "isw_bgiiahbjbc_Volume0"14:37
cjwatson#14:37
cjwatsonOct  3 15:05:44 ubuntu ubiquity: ERROR: isw: wrong # of devices in RAID set "isw_bgiiahbjbc_Volume0" [1/2] on /dev/sda14:37
cjwatsonit doesn't say why14:38
turtle4464yea, i don't really know what that means14:38
cjwatsonit could be that the installer's failing to assemble it properly, or it could be genuinely broken. I can't tell, sorry14:38
turtle4464oh14:38
turtle4464could me having a second storage drive connected be affecting it?14:38
cjwatsonI'm afraid I don't know; dmraid is just saying it's degraded, which would normally mean that one of the drives in the set is broken or missing14:40
cjwatsonor misconfigured14:40
turtle4464i am not running raid at all, i don't even know how, there is 1 160GB OS drive which i let the installer use completely for the OS, and 1 1TB drive with just avi files14:41
cjwatsonturtle4464: it looks like you have raid metadata on your disk though14:42
cjwatsonof the inferior BIOS RAID variety, but that's probably not your fault :)14:42
turtle4464cjwatson, i've never run raid, at least not intentionally, ubuntu 9.04 installs fine, is there something else i could be doing?14:42
cjwatsonno, what's probably happening is that now we have (slightly) better support for dmraid than we used to14:43
cjwatsonbut unfortunately your computer appears to be set up with the capability for dmraid, but it's only actually configured on one drive so the dmraid tools don't like it14:43
turtle4464O.O14:44
turtle4464this is generic hardware, intel dp35dp mobo, q660014:44
cjwatsonI don't need model numbers, thanks :)14:44
cjwatsonit's a bug in grub-installer that it's trying to install to dmraid despite dmraid being broken14:44
cjwatson(the model numbers don't mean anything to me anyway. dmraid is a commodity feature)14:44
turtle4464ah14:45
turtle4464what can i do to fix it, really want to run new ubuntu :(14:45
cjwatsoncould you please file a bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+filebug?no-redirect, attaching those logs14:45
cjwatsonand I'll see what we can do14:45
turtle4464would a hard wipe of the OS drive help, and disconnect the storage drive during installation?14:46
cjwatsonactually, I'd rather we had the opportunity to fix this bug and use you as a test case :-)14:48
turtle4464:O14:48
cjwatsonif you file a bug, you'll get notified when we fix it, and can then try the next daily build14:48
turtle4464this is my only computer though, will i have to be installing a new version all the time?14:48
cjwatsonI think it should hopefully only take us one go14:48
turtle4464ok, lemme set up a launchpad account, or i don't suppose you could file it for me14:49
cjwatsonwell, if I do then you won't get notified automatically14:49
cjwatsonI'm very bad at keeping track of things in my head, there's just too much14:50
turtle4464i'll bookmark the bug and check it hourly :P14:50
turtle4464lol14:50
cjwatsonI think I do actually know what the problem is, I spotted it the other day14:50
turtle4464if you fix it, i'll send cake :D14:51
turtle4464cjwatson, could i test it in a virtual OS, so i wouldn't have to re-install everything?14:55
cjwatsonnot effectively14:56
turtle4464oh :<14:56
turtle4464do i still need to make the bug report, or do you already know how to fix it?14:56
cjwatsonthe problem is specific to your disk layout. A virtual OS would have a different disk14:56
turtle4464ah ok14:56
cjwatsonplease do file a bug14:56
turtle4464silly email registrations :(14:56
cjwatsonI have a guess at a fix, which I'll arrange for you to be able to try out in tomorrow's daily build14:57
cjwatson(meeting now)14:57
turtle4464ok sure ty :)14:57
cjwatson(but a bug will still help, because that lets me attach the fix to it, which is useful for history)15:01
turtle4464ok, i'll make one now15:05
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turtle4464cjwatson, what should i make the summary?15:11
cjwatsonturtle4464: "grub-installer breaks on disks with dmraid metadata but only one disk"15:15
cjwatsonor something like that15:15
cjwatsonand you can just copy and paste this IRC log for a detailed description, if you like15:15
turtle4464i'll pastebin this IRC conversation15:16
cjwatsonno need, there's a space in the bug filing form for a description, you can paste into that15:18
turtle4464oh sorry, here is the bug cjwatson https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/44458315:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 444583 in grub-installer "grub-installer breaks on disks with dmraid metadata but only one disk" [Undecided,New]15:19
cjwatsonthank you15:20
turtle4464np15:20
turtle4464thanks for helping me fix it15:20
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davmor2evand: Right is there any point carrying on with this wubi testing if the partitioner is broke any way?15:24
evandnot at the moment15:27
CIA-33installation-report: evand * r69 installation-report.ubuntu/ (debian/changelog finish-install.d/94save-logs):15:28
CIA-33installation-report: Write /cdrom/.disk/info to /var/log/installer/media-info15:28
CIA-33installation-report: (LP: #364649).15:28
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CIA-33installation-report: evand * r70 installation-report/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.39ubuntu215:38
CIA-33ubiquity: evand * r3502 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py):15:54
CIA-33ubiquity: Write /cdrom/.disk/info to /var/log/installer/media-info15:54
CIA-33ubiquity: (LP: #364649).15:54
CIA-33grub-installer: cjwatson * r816 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer):16:11
CIA-33grub-installer: Fix mishandling of loop variable that caused the semi-manual16:11
CIA-33grub-installer: dmraid/multipath/mdadm handling to fire even for disks that don't need16:11
CIA-33grub-installer: it (LP: #444583).16:11
CIA-33grub-installer: cjwatson * r817 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer):16:13
CIA-33grub-installer: Never use the semi-manual GRUB setup code for GRUB 2, since it won't16:13
CIA-33grub-installer: work anyway.16:13
CIA-33grub-installer: cjwatson * r818 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.43ubuntu516:16
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CIA-33partman-base: evand * r168 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog parted_server.c):16:47
CIA-33partman-base: Use linux-swap(v1) instead of linux-swap(new) to reflect changes to16:47
CIA-33partman-base: parted.16:47
evandIs it sensible to also bump the version dependency on libparted?16:49
cjwatsonwhy change that? you shouldn't need to16:58
cjwatsonlinux-swap(new) still works16:58
cjwatsonor if it doesn't, it's a parted bug16:58
cjwatsonand it'd be a parted bug I *really* want to fix17:00
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turtle4464thanks cjwatson, so i guess i'll be OK to try the final of ubuntu 9.10?17:46
cjwatsonturtle4464: I'd really like you to try tomorrow's daily build if you can17:47
cjwatsonI'd like to have another opportunity to fix this in case this attempt failed ...17:47
turtle4464what time are they usually made at?17:47
cjwatson8am-ish UK time17:47
turtle4464so 3 am my time17:48
turtle4464i work 9 am - 9 pm the next 3 days, so i'm not sure if i'll get a chance to test it, i'll give it a try tomorrow night though17:48
cjwatsonok, thanks17:51
turtle4464cjwatson, just a quick question before i step out, will the daily cd from tomorrow be as stable as the beta, and since i assume it only comes in the alternate cd, how do i get logs off it to save if something goes wrong, and is it safe to use unetbootin to install it from a usb18:05
cjwatsonturtle4464: in general daily builds aren't as stable as the beta - the reason I'm asking for a daily build is that it gives me an extra chance to fix things if it doesn't work18:07
cjwatsonturtle4464: we do daily builds of the desktop CD too18:07
cjwatsonturtle4464: I'm not familiar with unetbootin; we normally recommend usb-creator for USB installations (since we develop it)18:07
turtle4464cjwatson, its just on this page i only saw alternate cds http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/18:09
turtle4464sorry, i didn't see this page http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/18:10
cjwatsonindeed18:13
CIA-33partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r717 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog lib/resize.sh):18:18
CIA-33partman-partitioning: Set prefsize in get_*resize_range functions; pass RAWPREFSIZE instead of18:18
CIA-33partman-partitioning: RAWCURSIZE to ubiquity (preferred size instead of current size) and stop18:18
CIA-33partman-partitioning: passing ORISIZE. This allows ubiquity to set sensible preferred sizes18:18
CIA-33partman-partitioning: when resizing partitions (LP: #421407).18:18
CIA-33partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r718 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 72ubuntu218:19
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3503 ubiquity/ (6 files in 5 dirs):18:21
CIA-33ubiquity: In the auto-resize bar, use the preferred partition size requested by18:21
CIA-33ubiquity: partman-auto/partman-partitioning, rather than hardcoding the maximum18:21
CIA-33ubiquity: size or making up our own (LP: #421407).18:21
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3504 ubiquity/debian/ (40 files in 2 dirs):18:26
CIA-33ubiquity: Update imported translations from gtk+2.0 2.18.1-1ubuntu1 (adds Asturian18:26
CIA-33ubiquity: and Bengali).18:26
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3505 ubiquity/ (155 files in 3 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.18:33
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3506 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):18:40
CIA-33ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: apt-setup 1:0.41ubuntu2,18:40
CIA-33ubiquity: console-setup 1.34ubuntu4, flash-kernel 2.13ubuntu12, grub-installer18:40
CIA-33ubiquity: 1.43ubuntu5, partman-partitioning 72ubuntu2, partman-target 64ubuntu2.18:40
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3507 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.99.2918:48
ElNerdoDeGeekHey, who should I get in touch with for a proposed (fairly major) Wubi feature?19:50
ElNerdoDeGeekWow. This place has REALLY nice acoustics.19:53
loolcjwatson: Hi, I'd like your input on setting cdrom-detect/try-usb=true by default in armel images; either we add it to the kernel cmdline (easy but a tad ugly) or we add an arch-specific preseed file; do you think the latter is worthwhile or simply too much?  (Or we could also set try-usb by default on armel)20:10
cjwatsonnormally I'd prefer an architecture-specific preseed file, but preseeding is processed after cdrom-detect (unless you use initrd preseeding but why bother)20:52
cjwatsonI think my recommendation would be to add it to the kernel command line for now20:53
bdmurrayhas anybody looked at bug 441242?21:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 441242 in ubiquity "Ubiquity generates bad fstab with NTFS partitions" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44124221:57
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cjwatsonbdmurray: yes, it's on my list22:29
bdmurraycjwatson: okay, great22:30
CIA-33partman-base: cjwatson * r169 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 133ubuntu322:30
CIA-33partman-basicfilesystems: cjwatson * r579 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog fstab.d/basic):22:42
CIA-33partman-basicfilesystems: Don't check NTFS at boot, since we have no fsck.ntfs right now22:42
CIA-33partman-basicfilesystems: (LP: #441242).22:42
CIA-33partman-basicfilesystems: cjwatson * r580 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 63ubuntu222:45
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3508 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):22:47
CIA-33ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: partman-base 133ubuntu3,22:47
CIA-33ubiquity: partman-basicfilesystems 63ubuntu2.22:47
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3509 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.99.3022:50
CIA-33debian-installer: cjwatson * r1184 ubuntu/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Move to 2.6.31-12 kernels.22:57
CIA-33debian-installer: cjwatson * r1185 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081029ubuntu6522:59
CIA-33debian-installer-utils: cjwatson * r682 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.70ubuntu223:04
CIA-33cdrom-detect: cjwatson * r451 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.31ubuntu323:07
CIA-33casper: cjwatson * r707 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.19923:42

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