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doctormoWell that was an interesting meeting, i feel like I've been bullied into submission on the grounds of compromise, with no actual compromise motioned.00:02
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cprofittdoctormo, I teach you Moodle you teach me asciisdocs00:03
cprofittthat was the compromise00:03
doctormoSo my current status is: I will learn moodle from cprofit and we'll do a swap. Then we'll decide what to do about it all and how we can move forwards.00:04
cprofittyes.00:04
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doctormocprofitt: Oh I thought you just suggested that out of scope, not in the meeting motions.00:04
cprofittand we may move forward initially with Moodle and bring your idea along as more management is needed00:04
cprofittI did suggest that out of scope00:04
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doctormocprofitt: Do we have  date for you learning asciidoc?00:05
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cprofittdoctormo, not yet... let me finish another conversation thread then I can open my calendar00:06
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pleia2so does this mean we're still going to hold off on course development?00:08
doctormopleia2: I'm not holding off, the question is why everyone else is.00:08
doctormopleia2: At the least we can be making plans in the wiki and writing text courses.00:08
pleia2doctormo: I was waiting for your workflow doc from BiosElement so I knew how to use bzr+asciidoc :)00:09
doctormoWe can always copy and paste them into whatever, because it's CC.00:09
BiosElementAye doctormo I told pleia2 to hold off until I was sure what we were doing.00:09
pleia2I mean, I could just keep doing .odt00:09
pleia2maybe I should?00:09
doctormopleia2: please do00:10
doctormopleia2: At least until we've got things settled.00:10
doctormoThings can always be moved around.00:11
pleia2ok00:11
cprofittpleia2, I can train both you and doc with Moodle00:12
doctormopleia2: Although it'll be helpful later on if everything is written to the same basic step, introduction, lecture/overview, demonstration and then practical hands on.00:12
pleia2doctormo: of course00:12
pleia2cprofitt: that would be great :)00:12
cprofittSo... date/time00:13
doctormoIndeed00:13
cprofittbooting up main machine with calendar now...00:14
pleia2hehe00:14
pleia2goog_cal++00:14
doctormoI think I'm going to be out of comission for a few days, looks like I'm getting sick and it's starting with a splitting headache.00:14
* pleia2 hugs doctormo 00:15
doctormothanks, nice new virtual hugs mean you won't catch it ;-D00:15
pleia2:)00:15
cprofittthis week - any night other than tomorrow night...00:18
cprofitthow does that work for you guys?00:18
doctormosounds good, any night except tomorrow and wednesday for me00:19
cprofittThursday or Friday good for you pleia2 ?00:19
pleia2wouldn't that mean admitting I have no life? :)00:20
pleia2either one is fine00:20
Vantraxhard to get to the meetings now, im stuck driving to work usually.00:20
pleia2Vantrax: we're still trying to move them around, got complaints from europe folks we were having them too late so we had to bump a couple earlier00:20
cprofittdoctormo, Thursday or Friday better for you?00:20
pleia2lets shoot for friday, give doctormo plenty of time to get well :)00:21
cprofittk00:21
VantraxIll do what i can to make em00:21
cprofittFriday at 9pm EST?00:21
cprofittEDT I mean00:21
VantraxI also need to get some course streams finalised so I can create the categories in moodle so i can configure the links in the menu to point to them.00:21
doctormoHey Vantrax00:21
pleia2ok00:21
doctormoVantrax: Where the rolls and other images I posted useful for you in that task?00:22
Vantraxyep00:22
cprofitthow do we want to do the 'voice' part?00:22
Vantraxits all good context00:22
cprofittor do we want to use IRC and screen share or some such?00:23
Vantraxellumenate could work00:23
doctormocprofitt: so long as it's usable on Ubuntu with a preference for FOSS.00:23
cprofittVantrax, does that cost anything?00:23
Vantraxnope00:24
doctormohttp://lwn.net/Articles/355546/rss <- interesting article.00:24
cprofittworks with Ubuntu?00:24
Vantraxyou can create rooms for up to 20 with no licence00:24
Vantraxunder wine it does...00:24
Vantraxnot natively unfortunately00:24
cprofittcrap... anything support LInux?00:25
Vantraxthey do have a mac version00:25
Vantraxso a linux version should be a simple rebuild00:25
Vantraxlinux is only just starting to get into the education space00:26
cprofittdoctormo, pleia2 lets work on -- the how over the next two days...00:26
doctormoNah, no wine solutions please, if required we'll just use skype.00:26
pleia2skype is fine00:27
cprofitt9pm Friday -- for a Moodle training session00:27
* cprofitt has not skype00:27
cprofittI can do SIP though... just have to ask for permission00:27
pleia2you get it from the internets, it's free :)00:27
pleia2I can't do SIP00:27
* cprofitt thinks skype is evil00:27
cprofittpleia2, why not... ?00:27
doctormocprofitt: I agree and it would be my last choice, but sip solutions are dreadful still.00:27
cprofittI just use Ekiga00:28
* Vantrax knows skype is evil00:28
BiosElementMumble might be an option if needed.00:28
pleia2cprofitt: complicated firewall for work already using my SIP ports and things, can't unconfigure it for a night00:28
pleia2it would be a disaster00:28
cprofittah...00:28
cprofittyou work at night pleia2 ?00:28
doctormowow they only work over a set port, sounds rather bad.00:29
pleia2cprofitt: as backup, yes00:29
pleia2only 2 people in the company ;)00:29
pleia2doctormo: well, my firewall is locked down pretty tight, I'd have to open non-default ports and let the traffic through, blahbalh all a huge hassle00:30
cprofittok -- we can work on how to communicate...00:30
cprofittperhaps even use a real phone...00:30
doctormoshouldn't need to open any ports tbh00:30
cprofittI thought ekiga worked w/o opening ports...00:31
cprofittpleia2, and doctormo you here?00:40
doctormocprofitt: sort of,00:40
pleia2yeah00:40
cprofittsee private -- got permission to use a sip line w/ regular phone00:40
cprofittwe have to NOT abuse it00:41
hal14450cprofitt, what's up?00:41
pleia2hey there hal1445000:41
hal14450hi all00:41
cprofittpleia2, and doctormo this is hal14450 who has offered to let us use his SIP00:41
cprofittI sent you the information in a private message00:42
hal14450my pleasure00:42
doctormothanks hal1445000:42
cprofittI just wanted to introduce him... and vice versa00:42
pleia2thanks hal14450 :)00:42
hal14450i believe we've got a time limiter on it now so it may cut you off after 1.5 or 2 hours but you can call right back in00:42
hal14450just try not to go too crazy since it costs me money00:43
hal14450too crazy == 10 hours00:43
cprofittwe will need 30 minutes to one hour hal1445000:43
cprofittthanks very much00:43
hal14450no problem you're all very welcome00:43
cprofitthal14450, you know pleia2 anyway right?00:44
cprofittdoctormo, is in the MA Loco and very active00:44
hal14450indeed00:44
hal14450i've read doctormo's blog more than a few times ;-)00:45
doctormothanks cprofitt, it's easier to be very active when you don't have a job.00:45
hal14450and pleia2 hangs out in a lot of the channels i usually do00:45
cprofittpleia2, and doctormo do you both have an account on bodhi_zazen's test server?00:45
doctormoYes,00:45
pleia2yeah00:46
hal14450if you guys want i can set you up w/ an extension on the asterisk box so you can make ld calls for free it will take a few minutes and if you want voicemail that will require a valid email address00:46
hal14450s/guys/guys and gals/00:47
pleia2:)00:47
hal14450pleia2, didn't want you feeling left out ;-)00:49
doctormoUp to you of course, doctormo@gmail.com00:49
doctormoBut it sounds cool00:49
pleia2I hate phones and already get free d so I'll pass ;) but using this for conference calls is great00:49
pleia2s/d/ld00:49
hal14450i've gotta bug jag to chown the conf files, he edits them as root and i only have a user login on that box lol00:50
hal14450pleia2, the offer still stands if you ever change your mind00:50
pleia2hal14450: thanks!00:51
hal14450np yw00:51
hal14450doctormo, i'll pm you the login details once i've sorted it out00:52
doctormohal14450: perfect,t hanks00:52
hal14450np yw00:52
hal14450if you have an ATA (Analog Telephone Adapter) it will work w/ that as well00:53
hal14450doctormo, ping ck your pm please01:29
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bodhizazen'lo Zachk1804:23
Zachk18bodhizazen, How dost it go with thee at this hour?05:15
bodhizazennot too bad =)05:16
bodhizazenyou ?05:16
Zachk18ah ok...05:17
Zachk18mo0nykit, hi11:00
mo0nykithello Zachk18 !11:00
doctormopleia2: Bah, can't post a comment to your blog11:15
doctormopleia2: Just lots of openid errors for wordpress, launchpad openid and google login errors for google. :-(11:17
doctormook done at last11:18
pleia2doctormo: I don't use openid..13:16
travis_!nick Raidsong16:01
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ScbbdsgHallo, hier ein DAU. Ich hatte mal eine Knoppix DVD und hab mir dann erfolgreich suse 10 mit kde installiert. Wie und was für eine Version von Ubuntu wär für einen komplett neu aufgesetzten Rechner mit 1GB ram für mich sinnvoll?18:49
Scbbdsgenglish?18:51
pleia2Deutsch?18:51
pleia2Scbbdsg: #ubuntu-de :)18:51
ScbbdsgDanke!18:52
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