[00:02] <doctormo> Well that was an interesting meeting, i feel like I've been bullied into submission on the grounds of compromise, with no actual compromise motioned.
[00:03] <BiosElement> +1
[00:03] <cprofitt> doctormo, I teach you Moodle you teach me asciisdocs
[00:03] <cprofitt> that was the compromise
[00:04] <doctormo> So my current status is: I will learn moodle from cprofit and we'll do a swap. Then we'll decide what to do about it all and how we can move forwards.
[00:04] <cprofitt> yes.
[00:04] <doctormo> cprofitt: Oh I thought you just suggested that out of scope, not in the meeting motions.
[00:04] <cprofitt> and we may move forward initially with Moodle and bring your idea along as more management is needed
[00:04] <cprofitt> I did suggest that out of scope
[00:05] <doctormo> cprofitt: Do we have  date for you learning asciidoc?
[00:06] <cprofitt> doctormo, not yet... let me finish another conversation thread then I can open my calendar
[00:08] <pleia2> so does this mean we're still going to hold off on course development?
[00:08] <doctormo> pleia2: I'm not holding off, the question is why everyone else is.
[00:08] <doctormo> pleia2: At the least we can be making plans in the wiki and writing text courses.
[00:09] <pleia2> doctormo: I was waiting for your workflow doc from BiosElement so I knew how to use bzr+asciidoc :)
[00:09] <doctormo> We can always copy and paste them into whatever, because it's CC.
[00:09] <BiosElement> Aye doctormo I told pleia2 to hold off until I was sure what we were doing.
[00:09] <pleia2> I mean, I could just keep doing .odt
[00:09] <pleia2> maybe I should?
[00:10] <doctormo> pleia2: please do
[00:10] <doctormo> pleia2: At least until we've got things settled.
[00:11] <doctormo> Things can always be moved around.
[00:11] <pleia2> ok
[00:12] <cprofitt> pleia2, I can train both you and doc with Moodle
[00:12] <doctormo> pleia2: Although it'll be helpful later on if everything is written to the same basic step, introduction, lecture/overview, demonstration and then practical hands on.
[00:12] <pleia2> doctormo: of course
[00:12] <pleia2> cprofitt: that would be great :)
[00:13] <cprofitt> So... date/time
[00:13] <doctormo> Indeed
[00:14] <cprofitt> booting up main machine with calendar now...
[00:14] <pleia2> hehe
[00:14] <pleia2> goog_cal++
[00:14] <doctormo> I think I'm going to be out of comission for a few days, looks like I'm getting sick and it's starting with a splitting headache.
[00:15]  * pleia2 hugs doctormo 
[00:15] <doctormo> thanks, nice new virtual hugs mean you won't catch it ;-D
[00:15] <pleia2> :)
[00:18] <cprofitt> this week - any night other than tomorrow night...
[00:18] <cprofitt> how does that work for you guys?
[00:19] <doctormo> sounds good, any night except tomorrow and wednesday for me
[00:19] <cprofitt> Thursday or Friday good for you pleia2 ?
[00:20] <pleia2> wouldn't that mean admitting I have no life? :)
[00:20] <pleia2> either one is fine
[00:20] <Vantrax> hard to get to the meetings now, im stuck driving to work usually.
[00:20] <pleia2> Vantrax: we're still trying to move them around, got complaints from europe folks we were having them too late so we had to bump a couple earlier
[00:20] <cprofitt> doctormo, Thursday or Friday better for you?
[00:21] <pleia2> lets shoot for friday, give doctormo plenty of time to get well :)
[00:21] <cprofitt> k
[00:21] <Vantrax> Ill do what i can to make em
[00:21] <cprofitt> Friday at 9pm EST?
[00:21] <cprofitt> EDT I mean
[00:21] <Vantrax> I also need to get some course streams finalised so I can create the categories in moodle so i can configure the links in the menu to point to them.
[00:21] <doctormo> Hey Vantrax
[00:21] <pleia2> ok
[00:22] <doctormo> Vantrax: Where the rolls and other images I posted useful for you in that task?
[00:22] <Vantrax> yep
[00:22] <cprofitt> how do we want to do the 'voice' part?
[00:22] <Vantrax> its all good context
[00:23] <cprofitt> or do we want to use IRC and screen share or some such?
[00:23] <Vantrax> ellumenate could work
[00:23] <doctormo> cprofitt: so long as it's usable on Ubuntu with a preference for FOSS.
[00:23] <cprofitt> Vantrax, does that cost anything?
[00:24] <Vantrax> nope
[00:24] <doctormo> http://lwn.net/Articles/355546/rss <- interesting article.
[00:24] <cprofitt> works with Ubuntu?
[00:24] <Vantrax> you can create rooms for up to 20 with no licence
[00:24] <Vantrax> under wine it does...
[00:24] <Vantrax> not natively unfortunately
[00:25] <cprofitt> crap... anything support LInux?
[00:25] <Vantrax> they do have a mac version
[00:25] <Vantrax> so a linux version should be a simple rebuild
[00:26] <Vantrax> linux is only just starting to get into the education space
[00:26] <cprofitt> doctormo, pleia2 lets work on -- the how over the next two days...
[00:26] <doctormo> Nah, no wine solutions please, if required we'll just use skype.
[00:27] <pleia2> skype is fine
[00:27] <cprofitt> 9pm Friday -- for a Moodle training session
[00:27]  * cprofitt has not skype
[00:27] <cprofitt> I can do SIP though... just have to ask for permission
[00:27] <pleia2> you get it from the internets, it's free :)
[00:27] <pleia2> I can't do SIP
[00:27]  * cprofitt thinks skype is evil
[00:27] <cprofitt> pleia2, why not... ?
[00:27] <doctormo> cprofitt: I agree and it would be my last choice, but sip solutions are dreadful still.
[00:28] <cprofitt> I just use Ekiga
[00:28]  * Vantrax knows skype is evil
[00:28] <BiosElement> Mumble might be an option if needed.
[00:28] <pleia2> cprofitt: complicated firewall for work already using my SIP ports and things, can't unconfigure it for a night
[00:28] <pleia2> it would be a disaster
[00:28] <cprofitt> ah...
[00:28] <cprofitt> you work at night pleia2 ?
[00:29] <doctormo> wow they only work over a set port, sounds rather bad.
[00:29] <pleia2> cprofitt: as backup, yes
[00:29] <pleia2> only 2 people in the company ;)
[00:30] <pleia2> doctormo: well, my firewall is locked down pretty tight, I'd have to open non-default ports and let the traffic through, blahbalh all a huge hassle
[00:30] <cprofitt> ok -- we can work on how to communicate...
[00:30] <cprofitt> perhaps even use a real phone...
[00:30] <doctormo> shouldn't need to open any ports tbh
[00:31] <cprofitt> I thought ekiga worked w/o opening ports...
[00:40] <cprofitt> pleia2, and doctormo you here?
[00:40] <doctormo> cprofitt: sort of,
[00:40] <pleia2> yeah
[00:40] <cprofitt> see private -- got permission to use a sip line w/ regular phone
[00:41] <cprofitt> we have to NOT abuse it
[00:41] <hal14450> cprofitt, what's up?
[00:41] <pleia2> hey there hal14450
[00:41] <hal14450> hi all
[00:41] <cprofitt> pleia2, and doctormo this is hal14450 who has offered to let us use his SIP
[00:42] <cprofitt> I sent you the information in a private message
[00:42] <hal14450> my pleasure
[00:42] <doctormo> thanks hal14450
[00:42] <cprofitt> I just wanted to introduce him... and vice versa
[00:42] <pleia2> thanks hal14450 :)
[00:42] <hal14450> i believe we've got a time limiter on it now so it may cut you off after 1.5 or 2 hours but you can call right back in
[00:43] <hal14450> just try not to go too crazy since it costs me money
[00:43] <hal14450> too crazy == 10 hours
[00:43] <cprofitt> we will need 30 minutes to one hour hal14450
[00:43] <cprofitt> thanks very much
[00:43] <hal14450> no problem you're all very welcome
[00:44] <cprofitt> hal14450, you know pleia2 anyway right?
[00:44] <cprofitt> doctormo, is in the MA Loco and very active
[00:44] <hal14450> indeed
[00:45] <hal14450> i've read doctormo's blog more than a few times ;-)
[00:45] <doctormo> thanks cprofitt, it's easier to be very active when you don't have a job.
[00:45] <hal14450> and pleia2 hangs out in a lot of the channels i usually do
[00:45] <cprofitt> pleia2, and doctormo do you both have an account on bodhi_zazen's test server?
[00:45] <doctormo> Yes,
[00:46] <pleia2> yeah
[00:46] <hal14450> if you guys want i can set you up w/ an extension on the asterisk box so you can make ld calls for free it will take a few minutes and if you want voicemail that will require a valid email address
[00:47] <hal14450> s/guys/guys and gals/
[00:47] <pleia2> :)
[00:49] <hal14450> pleia2, didn't want you feeling left out ;-)
[00:49] <doctormo> Up to you of course, doctormo@gmail.com
[00:49] <doctormo> But it sounds cool
[00:49] <pleia2> I hate phones and already get free d so I'll pass ;) but using this for conference calls is great
[00:49] <pleia2> s/d/ld
[00:50] <hal14450> i've gotta bug jag to chown the conf files, he edits them as root and i only have a user login on that box lol
[00:50] <hal14450> pleia2, the offer still stands if you ever change your mind
[00:51] <pleia2> hal14450: thanks!
[00:51] <hal14450> np yw
[00:52] <hal14450> doctormo, i'll pm you the login details once i've sorted it out
[00:52] <doctormo> hal14450: perfect,t hanks
[00:52] <hal14450> np yw
[00:53] <hal14450> if you have an ATA (Analog Telephone Adapter) it will work w/ that as well
[01:29] <hal14450> doctormo, ping ck your pm please
[04:23]  * Zachk18 waves to bodhizazen 
[04:23] <bodhizazen> 'lo Zachk18
[05:15] <Zachk18> bodhizazen, How dost it go with thee at this hour?
[05:16] <bodhizazen> not too bad =)
[05:16] <bodhizazen> you ?
[05:17] <Zachk18> ah ok...
[11:00] <Zachk18> mo0nykit, hi
[11:00] <mo0nykit> hello Zachk18 !
[11:15] <doctormo> pleia2: Bah, can't post a comment to your blog
[11:17] <doctormo> pleia2: Just lots of openid errors for wordpress, launchpad openid and google login errors for google. :-(
[11:18] <doctormo> ok done at last
[13:16] <pleia2> doctormo: I don't use openid..
[16:01] <travis_> !nick Raidsong
[18:49] <Scbbdsg> Hallo, hier ein DAU. Ich hatte mal eine Knoppix DVD und hab mir dann erfolgreich suse 10 mit kde installiert. Wie und was für eine Version von Ubuntu wär für einen komplett neu aufgesetzten Rechner mit 1GB ram für mich sinnvoll?
[18:51] <Scbbdsg> english?
[18:51] <pleia2> Deutsch?
[18:51] <pleia2> Scbbdsg: #ubuntu-de :)
[18:52] <Scbbdsg> Danke!