[00:24] <MythbuntuGuest02> #mythtv
[00:37] <hipitihop> when running mythfilldatabase via an ssh session, do I need to run as root i.e. 'sudo mythfilldatabase' ?
[00:44] <orificium> hipitihop: it runs without sudo fine from my ssh session.
[00:57] <len> superm1, removing the .cache and .config directories fixed the xfce problem.
[00:59] <Cyber-Dogg> does mythbuntu do anything for ntp out of the box"
[01:10] <hipitihop> orificium: thanks and your ssh session is the user used during mythbuntu install ?
[01:13] <mrand> cyber-dogg: yes, I believe so.
[01:17] <hipitihop> when I run mythfilldatabse it reports "XMLTVConfig entry in settings table missing, falling back to old behavior" is this normal or a sign of something not configured correctly ?
[02:09] <rwlove_> can anyone tell me exactly how to switch from xfce4 to the gnome desktop?
[02:09] <rwlove_> I've installed gnome, but I can't figure out how to switch it
[02:11] <tgm4883> rwlove_, at the login screen, you can select your session
[02:11] <tgm4883> select gnome
[02:12] <rwlove_> hmm... I didn't notice it actually
[02:12] <rwlove_> I'll check again
[02:12] <rwlove_> I'm running 9.10 beta
[02:12] <rwlove_> so there could be a bug or something as well... I've ran into quite a few
[02:13] <tgm4883> rwlove_, did you file bugs on launchpad?
[02:14] <tgm4883> I also find it a little funny that you assume it's a bu
[02:14] <tgm4883> g
[02:15] <rwlove_> it is funny I agree
[02:15] <rwlove_> it's most likely user error
[02:16] <tgm4883> rwlove_, just for fun, I logged out of my frontend
[02:16] <abarbaccia> hey - im having a little trouble compiling v4l-dvb on karmic. says it cannot find dma.h and no kernel sources installed but i believe my build environment is setup correctly. can someone help me by testing on their machine
[02:16] <tgm4883> it's there on the login screen on the bottom after you select your username
[02:17] <squidly> ok this is odd
[02:17] <squidly> mythbuntu repo's using trunk, updated today and I get a couple a version mismatch between the frontend and the backend
[02:21] <squidly> ok never mind the update did not restart my backend
[02:21] <abarbaccia> squidly: that's happened to me before. doh!
[02:21] <squidly> yea.. it's annoy8ing the script wont stop/start it properly
[02:22] <abarbaccia> squidly: which script?
[02:22] <squidly> the init script
[02:22] <abarbaccia> it doesn't work?
[02:22] <squidly> I just did a /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop and it did not stop it
[02:23] <abarbaccia> how did you start the backend?
[02:23] <squidly> abarbaccia: the same way
[02:24] <abarbaccia> hmm. interesting. mine works...
[02:27] <ctpaterson> Can anyone tell me how/if I can configure the liveTV timeout to wait longer?  I'm getting a lot of liveTV crashes when switching it on, changing channels, or program rollovers.
[02:27] <tgm4883> squidly, are you using karmic?
[02:27] <squidly> tgm4883: neg
[02:27] <tgm4883> ok
[02:27] <squidly> 9.04
[02:28] <rwlove_> tgm4883: got logged into gnome
[02:28] <mrand> tgm4883: I am.  Noticed the same thing about the backend this morning after updating
[02:28] <rwlove_> unfortunately didn't fix my problem
[02:28] <squidly> mrand: that is has happened serveral times before
[02:28] <tgm4883> mrand, you can't restart your backend either?
[02:28] <squidly> I can start it
[02:28] <squidly> but the restart does not restart it
[02:29] <tgm4883> ctpaterson, livetv timeout?
[02:29] <mrand> Oh, sorry, I meant that after the upgrade was complete, the backend was still the wrong version, which means it was never shut down.
[02:29] <tgm4883> it's configurable in the frontend in 0.22, in 0.21 you have to configure it via manual db editin
[02:29] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: I'm asking if there is such a thing that is configurable...don't know how else to deal with the liveTV crashes.
[02:30] <tgm4883> but I don't think that is what you are really asking about
[02:30] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: I can run a query comfortably, if that's the only way.
[02:30] <tgm4883> ctpaterson, sounds like it's taking too long to tune the channel?
[02:31] <mrand> tgm4883: I didn't try to restart it manually.  I was in a hurry, so I rebooted since it had done a kernel update.
[02:31] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: Could be...my recordings always look fine - in that they start when they should, and they never fail to record...I also get no problem playing back recordings.  Watching live TV itself, though, is an unpredictable effort.
[02:31] <tgm4883> just FYI, when you say live tv timeout, there is actually a feature called that where if you are watching live tv and you don't press a button for X minutes it returns to the menu
[02:31] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: Yeah, that's what kept coming up in my google searching.  ;>  Don't need that.
[02:32] <tgm4883> ctpaterson, tuner?
[02:32] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: Hauppauge PVR-500...nothing new about it.
[02:32] <tgm4883> logs?
[02:32] <tgm4883> or rather
[02:32] <tgm4883> !logs
[02:32] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[02:33] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: I'll pastie a snapshot from a recent failed channel change...sec
[02:35] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: http://pastie.org/643154  At 21:26:38 I started watching TV, and it worked.  I then tried to change the channel, and it returned to the menu after a delay.
[02:36] <tgm4883> !logs | ctpaterson
[02:36] <Zinn> ctpaterson: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[02:36] <tgm4883> I would like backend logs as well
[02:37] <ctpaterson> k...I'll try the log grabber thing...never done it before, so bear with me.  Thanks.
[02:38] <tgm4883> ctpaterson, don't be afraid of it. We wrote it to do all the work for you
[02:38] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: Not afraid...just inexperienced.  ;>  Standby...and thank you.
[02:40] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f16b9ae91  And having never done it before...may I just say that's a thing of beauty.
[02:40] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: *ahem*  And those Oprah Winfrey and Dr. Phil viewings are NOT mine.
[02:40] <tgm4883> right ;)
[02:41] <mrand> ctpaterson: that's what they all say.
[02:41] <tgm4883> I suppose the disney dvd isn't yours either
[02:41] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: No, that I'll take the hit for...anything to make my little girl smile.  The wife, though, she hangs for her own crimes.
[02:42] <abarbaccia> has anyone tried compiling v4l on karmic yet?
[02:42] <tgm4883> so i'm seeing 2 things
[02:42] <tgm4883> #
[02:42] <tgm4883> 2009-10-05 21:37:31.539 MPEGRec(/dev/video2) Warning: Audio sample rate 32000 Hz
[02:42] <tgm4883> #
[02:42] <tgm4883>                         is not supported by ivtv driver, using 48000 Hz instead.
[02:43] <tgm4883> and a bunch of ERROR when trying to delete file
[02:43] <tgm4883> i'd try fixing both those and trying again
[02:43] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: Okay...that strikes me as low...but I'm not sure I know what hits you about it.
[02:44] <ctpaterson> tgm4883:  Sorry...disregard that.  Let me take a look at those.
[02:46] <tgm4883> ctpaterson, also, I see that /home is full
[02:46] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: Are you able to steer me to where I might find the audio sampling?  I'm walking all the setup menus looking for it.
[02:47] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: Now that's interesting...
[02:47] <tgm4883> /hulkster/backup200 is pretty much full too
[02:48] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: Yeah...mythtv doesn't really care about hulkster...the drogos belong to it, though.
[02:48] <tgm4883> and why does (~paterson/bin/mythfront_startIfNotRunning.sh) run every second?
[02:49] <tgm4883> so yea, I would check all of those things and then try again
[02:49] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: Those logs say a lot, don't they?  I was getting a lot of mythfrontend crashes for a while (might have been in 8.04).  That's a cronjob that checks whether there's a frontend process, and starts one if there isn't.  Saved me calls at work, and my wife the trauma of using the console.
[02:49] <tgm4883> ah
[02:49] <tgm4883> do you have a remote?
[02:49] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: Remove control, yeah.
[02:50] <tgm4883> cause you could make one of your remote buttons launch that script
[02:50] <ctpaterson> err...Remote control
[02:50] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: Yeah...been meaning to do that for a while...just haven't got round to it yet.
[02:50] <tgm4883> ctpaterson, you need irexec, when you get around to it
[02:50] <tgm4883> but check those settings first.
[02:50] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: Thanks for the tip.  Can you tell me where to find the setting for the audio sample rate?
[02:51] <tgm4883> I think the audio sampling is in the frontend recording profiles
[02:51] <ctpaterson> tgm4883:  Odd...don't think I've ever been in there.
[02:53] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: I've got four recording profiles; "Default", "Live TV", "High Quality", and "Low Quality"...all say 48k for audio.
[03:13] <JokerNfear> hey guys im having a problem with cbmcmyth and a backend server im getting an error connectiing to database ..im thinking my DB is set 127.0.0.1 and need to chang eit to the ip addy how can i do this?
[03:48] <mattwj2002> hi guys I need help
[03:48] <mattwj2002> I need help to upgrade mythbuntu 8.10 to mythbuntu 9.04 without a network connection only using a cdrom
[03:48] <mattwj2002> :(
[03:48] <mattwj2002> can anyone help me?
[03:57] <hipitihop> My htpc is connected to my tv via hdmi, should I expect audio across hdmi ?
[03:58] <ctpaterson> hip: I think audio can be transmitted across HDMI...but is the port on your PC part of the video card or the audio card?  I suspect it's separate on the PC.
[03:59] <ctpaterson> tgm4883: If you're still around, I've disposed with all the errored files.  I can't find the source of the 32000 audio sample rate, and so can't change it.  Everything I look at from the menu says 48000.  The problem still occurs.
[04:03] <ctpaterson> !help
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[04:05] <hipitihop> ctpaterson: I see, I'm not quite sure which because it is all intergated afaik It is a POV ION Duel Atom motherboard
[04:05] <mrand> mattwj2002: will you have net access after the upgrade?
[04:05] <mattwj2002> yes
[04:05] <mattwj2002> as matter of fact that is why I am doing the upgrade
[04:06] <mrand> So you're expecting the upgrade to fix something, I take it?
[04:07] <mattwj2002> yes
[04:08] <hipitihop> ctpaterson: if that is the case then you are suggesting that I will need to take audio out separately . since the tv has hdmi input is it likely to expect a separate audio input ?
[04:09] <mattwj2002> actually I am planning a fresh install now
[04:09] <mattwj2002> I did some talking over at #ubuntu
[04:09] <mattwj2002> I know that 9.04 supports my wireless nic right out of the box
[04:09] <mattwj2002> :)
[04:09] <mattwj2002> I am actually going to try the beta for fun.....anyone else experiment with it?
[04:09] <hipitihop> does anyone know why some channel recordings are without audio and others are fine ? how do I debug the settings.
[04:10] <ctpaterson> hip: I quickly read a review of the board...I'm guessing that the HDMI is video...there's a line in there that makes me unsure - but the table of I/Os looks like the separation that I'm used to.  Depends on the TV, but it might not be easily prepared for that.  I know I've got my audio going to a separate set of speakers.
[04:11] <mrand> mattwj2002: Oh, if you're willing to do a fresh install, that's great.  Lots of people are having sucess with the 9.10 beta.  Only minor regressions here and there.  Sound is one of our bigger challenges.
[04:11] <mrand> Actually the beta iso is outdated - tons of fixes have occurred over the past five days.
[04:12] <mrand> But if you have net access, you can easily update.
[04:13] <hipitihop> ctpaterson: hmm thanks for looking at the board... TV is an LG-50PB4D ...looking at its manual now
[04:16] <mattwj2002> mrand what type of sound issues?
[04:16] <ctpaterson> hip: good luck...
[04:16] <mattwj2002> :-s
[04:16] <mattwj2002> I was actually having some with 8.10
[04:19] <mrand> pulse audio can get in the way... but it can be overcome without a great deal of effort.
[04:19] <hipitihop> ctpaterson: thanks.
[04:19] <mattwj2002> but the updates fix it?
[04:20] <mattwj2002> I am excited about the new version of mythtv
[04:20] <mattwj2002> :D
[04:21] <mrand> We have a patch that is not integrated yet... should be soon.  Many people don't have a problem, but those that do are able to work around it by disabling pulse audio.
[04:21] <mrand> We're all excited about the new version!
[04:21] <hipitihop> how do I get at the settings which effect audio recording on a per channel basis...some channels record with sounds and others don't
[05:34] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[05:35] <mattwj2002> I found a bug in the beta
[05:35] <mattwj2002> :)
[05:35] <mattwj2002> a big bug :-s
[05:35] <mattwj2002> and it is driving me buggy :-s
[05:44] <superm1> file it on launchpad :)
[05:44] <hipitihop> does anyone know where to look as to why some channels record with sound and others do not
[05:44] <superm1> and also check the web updates, for all you know it might already be fixed
[05:45] <mattwj2002> yeah my pvr-500 won't scan channels
[05:45] <mattwj2002> :(
[05:46] <mattwj2002> it scans some of the channels and stops
[05:46] <mattwj2002> these are analog channels and stops in different areas too
[05:48] <superm1> i heard there were channel scanning bugs with the version on the disk
[05:48] <superm1> there is an update on the repositories though that should in theory address such problems
[05:49] <superm1> so just finish the install, do all updates and try running mythtv-setup again
[05:49] <mattwj2002> ok
[14:56] <hipitihop> what is involved to upgrade from existing 9.04 to the beta ?
[15:13] <darthanubis> hipitihop, why not just read the homepage?
[16:34] <superm1> ouch Daviey, you got shot down
[16:34] <superm1> http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/672
[16:34] <Daviey> jah!
[20:15] <tdondich> Has anyone else gotten a problem getting listings from schedules direct from 9.10 beta?
[21:25] <jduggan> hey, anyone here involved with the trunk builds?
[21:30] <superm1> yeah, what's up?
[21:38] <jduggan> ive been using them for ages there's something that keeps bugging me that i havent bothered mentioning
[21:39] <jduggan> you guys use setenv in apache config for mythweb
[21:39] <jduggan> the db server is "" always
[21:39] <jduggan> and just doesnt work
[21:39] <jduggan> need to set it to 127.0.0.1
[21:39] <jduggan> im guessing there's an issue with the sock but i havent looked into it
[21:39] <jduggan> and its been like this for mnths, just thought i would point it out
[21:44] <superm1> jduggan, well 127.0.0.1 work in all configurations?
[21:45] <superm1> i've not seen any problems with fresh installs and mythweb....
[21:46] <rhpot1991> me neither
[21:46] <jduggan> hey also
[21:46] <jduggan> with that error
[21:46] <rhpot1991> with an upgrade
[21:46] <jduggan> you get an error
[21:46] <jduggan> on an included error template
[21:46] <jduggan> Warning at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/_shared/tmpl/_errors/db_vars_error.php, line 23
[21:46] <jduggan> require(modules/_shared/tmpl/tmpl/header.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory
[21:47] <rhpot1991> that one I may have seen, checking
[21:47] <superm1> jduggan, could you file some bugs for these issues?
[21:47] <jduggan> odd, im using a default trunk build this mythweb gets reset everytime, pretty sure i didnt change mysql config, but i'll check
[21:47] <superm1> if nothing else for tracking, and to figure out if they are upstream or packaging issues
[21:47] <jduggan> i'll have a dig around
[21:47] <superm1> against launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythplugins
[21:48] <superm1> or better yet run this: "ubuntu-bug mythplugins"
[21:49] <rhpot1991> once upon a time I saw something similar to the header error he said, but my .22 box doesn't do it now
[23:58] <Mister> hello, i want to update mythtv 7.10 but i cant. where is a source witch have gutsy packages?