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blizzkidnow I need to refine it so that it can only run those two scripts without password00:00
blizzkidqman__: would that be dhcpd ALL=(martijn)NOPASSWD: /etc/dhcp3/script1, /etc/dhcp3/script2 ?00:02
blizzkidyup, that did the trick00:04
blizzkidwell, qman__ and mdeslaur thanks for the help and patience, I'm going to bed now that it works00:05
qman__glad you got it sorted00:08
blizzkidqman__: I'll write a blogpost on it, maybe it should get documented somewhere :)00:09
blizzkidwell, ttyl00:09
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Orfeoushi again :)00:15
Orfeousit worked to bootup on livecd and make a bootable usb disk for my usb stick :)00:16
Orfeousmust be something wrong on those guides that i was talking about00:16
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Orfeous_damn..01:08
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twbFYI (re discussion yesterday), Ubuntu's packaging of the server component of Zimbra (ZCS) has been shelved because the guy who was interested in it has left Canonical.02:06
pmatulistwb: what was the guy's name?02:15
twbIt was a little confusing.02:15
twbI wrote to Brian Thomason, and I got a reply back from that address.02:15
twbSo either someone else wrote the reply and Brian left, or Brian wrote the reply and someone else (unnamed) left.02:16
pmatulisbrian didn't leave02:19
twbRighto.02:19
artillerytx_hey im in the rescue mode and im trying to make a copy of a HD how do i go about mounting it and copying it03:20
twbartillerytx_: first of all, do you want to copy only the files, or do you want to preserve the entire filesystem in a bit-for-bit copy?03:25
artillerytx_twb: bit for bit sorry i was away for a min04:31
artillerytx_what is the easiest way to get data off of a HD if its not showing up on the system or maybe some tricks or something04:32
artillerytx_it keeps randomly showing up in the bios04:33
JanCartillerytx_: your HDD is randomly showing up in the BIOS?04:39
JanCfirst of all check if all hardware connectors are properly attached (unplug & replug the hardware, if you can)04:40
JanCand if supported & still possible, see what SMART says about the disk04:40
artillerytx_k04:40
JanC(to me it sounds like hardware failure, if it's only a bad connector you're lucky, otherwise04:41
JanC...)04:41
artillerytx_yeah i know04:41
artillerytx_sucks04:41
JanCyou can try to boot using a rescue disk04:42
artillerytx_yeah04:42
artillerytx_but it doesn't see the HD04:42
artillerytx_i was getting a read only file format warning and then I/O errors04:43
artillerytx_i think the drive is going out04:43
artillerytx_but i was hoping i could copy some files before it finally died04:44
JanCmaybe try until it works a bit ;-)04:44
JanCI had that once with a 1 month old drive, fortunately it was part of a RAID 1  ;)04:45
artillerytx_yeah i should of done a raid setup and im stupid for not doing it04:45
JanCbackups are even better of course04:45
artillerytx_so there is nothing i can do about this04:54
artillerytx_sucks04:54
artillerytx_i guess i will let it sit and try tomorrow05:00
artillerytxif my hard drive shows up in the bios for a little bit then disappears its dead ?06:26
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milestonehi all07:40
milestonei am looking for mod-proxy-ajp inside of the jaunty repository07:40
milestonebut there seems to be none07:40
jmarsdenmilestone: It's in apache2.2-common , isn't it?? :)07:47
milestonelet me chick07:47
milestonecheck07:47
milestonesorry07:47
milestonedid an apt-file search mod_proxy_ajp but could not find it07:48
jmarsden/usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_proxy_ajp.so is in apache2.2-common on my system...07:48
milestonejmarsden: you are right07:48
twbWhat's the ajp part?07:48
milestonesorry for the confusion07:48
milestoneyes the module07:49
milestoneis in the common package07:49
jmarsdentwb: apache JServ Protocol.  http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy_ajp.html07:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #444105 in eucalyptus "euca-describe-volumes does not show the zone in which the volume resides" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44410509:18
uvirtbotNew bug: #444349 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44434909:58
Orfeoushey!10:00
Orfeouswhat is the big difference between B10:16
OrfeousVPN bridging and VPN routing10:17
ssmOrfeous: briding is layer 2, and routing is layer 3 traffic?10:17
_rubenbrige: subnet_a - vpn - subnet_a ... route: subnet_a - vpn - subnet_b .. which indeed, is a matter of layer2 versus layer310:17
Orfeousah, thanks for the answer!10:19
Orfeousi'm thinking of setting up a VPN tunnel between my server at home and my girls place.. but i dont know if its possible and how to do it. i have seen that some people have a VPN key generator internet bank-kind of thing :) for their clients to connect to their vpn servers10:20
_rubenopenvpn is a nice app to start playing with vpns10:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #444352 in eucalyptus (main) "DB deadlock on reboot prevents EMI from being started" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44435210:24
Orfeous_ruben, ok.. any guides howto? :)10:37
atomic_1+1 for OpenVPN, you can easily setup a openvpn infrastructure with a pre-shared key10:37
atomic_1it's the fastest10:38
atomic_1and the easyrsa scripts are also very easy to work with10:38
atomic_1http://www.techimo.com/forum/linux-unix/176687-howto-openvpn-ubuntu-dapper.html10:39
atomic_1that's one of the better guides10:39
Orfeousok, thank you..10:42
Orfeousbut in my wireless router there are many VPN stuff.. whats that?10:42
_rubencould be ipsec based vpn stuff, dont know your router10:44
Orfeoushmm..10:47
OrfeousSysCp verkar ju treevligt :)10:47
Orfeousops10:49
atomic_1Orfeous: i just read what you wrote, that's probably a VPN Passthrough feature that many routers have, its for IPSEC and L2TP11:17
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Orfeousatomic_1, ok.. is that something i must setup on my router at home?11:27
Orfeousmy server is behind that router11:27
Orfeousand now i am behind my gf's router11:27
Orfeousand i want to connect to my server or/and another computer on the same subnet11:28
atomic_1if you use default settings with OpenVPN, all you need to do on both routers is port forward tcp 1194 to the machines that use OpenVPN11:28
atomic_1so, setup OpenVPN as a server at your site11:29
atomic_1and just make your gf's site a client11:29
atomic_1that link i provided has all the info you need11:29
qwe_hi. I want a computer on my network also to have the internet. I've setup the IP masquerading with ufw as stated here https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html , but it doesn't work. Any guidence please?11:32
Orfeousatomic_1, i think it feels more secure to let me generate a password everytime i want to connect to the VPN11:35
Orfeouslike the hardware keygenerator blabla.. :)11:35
Orfeouslooks like a small calculator11:35
Orfeousatomic_1, i have the Dlink DIR-615 router at my GF and in the webadmin interface there are under Advanced-tab a portforwarding and application rules tabs.. and under application rules there are ipsec and PPTP as selectable rules :)11:37
Orfeousand they uses port 1723 for PPFT11:38
Orfeousipsec uses port 50011:38
atomic_1as i said, you dont need those if you are using OpenVPN11:45
atomic_1as far as passwords go, you cannot possibly say that they are more secure than a digital certificate ;)11:45
atomic_1besides, you can assign a password to the cert11:45
atomic_1when you generate it11:45
Orfeousah, ok :)11:54
* soren lucnhes11:58
ragsI have a problem with sudo..It used to take a long time to execute commands with sudo..so after some deugging I found tht it was taking time at logging the events to syslog....12:15
ragsThen I added  "loghost" to the hosts file, and the problem vanished!.12:16
ragsso is the loghost entry needed, or wht is the original problem? any ideas...12:16
_rubenrags: seems syslog is trying to log to a remote host called loghost12:17
ragsoh...I did enable remote logging...with the -r option but that is to receive syslogs messages from port 514 right....?12:19
_ruben-r is to enable inbound connections, yes12:19
ragsalso, other systems are logging with no problem....12:21
_rubendoes 'grep loghost /etc/syslog.conf' yield anything?12:21
_rubenor 'sudo grep loghost /etc/sudoers'12:21
ragsnothing...doesnt' return anything..I'm positive it's logging to files..and not to log host...12:23
_rubenif neither sudo and syslog dont refer to loghost, i wouldnt know what would be looking for that name12:24
ragsalso, I think it's some how related to the dns server as well...cause when the problem occurs, bind hangs as well...12:25
ragsIt works after some time...it's workig now....strange...12:32
rpintohi everybody12:33
rpintoi have a problem after installing smokeping on my ubuntu server 8.0412:34
pmatulis!info smokeping hardy12:34
rpintothe smokeping.cgi for local host is not displayed12:34
ubottusmokeping (source: smokeping): latency logging and graphing system. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3.0-1 (hardy), package size 652 kB, installed size 2504 kB12:34
rpinto??12:34
rpintoi didnt get u guys12:35
rpintoit was workin fine for one day12:38
rpintobut it stopped working nw12:39
pmatulisrpinto: check web server logs12:39
rpintohow do i do tat?12:39
pmatulisrpinto: you need to google some of this basic stuff yourself12:41
rpintook12:41
rpintothanks pmatulis12:41
rpintosmokeping debug doesnt show any errors12:53
rpintoOct  6 17:27:51 server smokeping[12411]: Not entering multiprocess mode for just a single probe.13:02
rpintoOct  6 17:27:51 server smokeping12412]: FPing: probing 1 targets with step 300 s and offset 182 s.13:02
rpintotat appears in the smokeping.log file when i start the service13:02
rpintois the step interval too large?13:03
rpintomust i lower it?13:03
PiciNo, 300s is normal.13:03
rpintook13:04
PiciOr, rather, the default.13:04
rpintoso any idea why my network latency graphs arnt displayed on the browser?13:04
PiciI remember having to do something, let me check my configs.13:05
rpintook please.. thanks13:05
Picirpinto: I had to add the following to one of my apache site configs to get the graphs to display: http://paste.ubuntu.com/286931/13:08
rpintoPici, where do i do that?13:11
Picirpinto: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/13:11
rpintoi must create a file there with the content rite?13:13
rpintocan i paste tat section in the 000-default file?13:13
BenignoCHello there13:14
Picirpinto: You'll probably need to paste it inside the host section that you might have in there.13:15
rpintoi just have on file 000-default in there13:15
Picirpinto: Okay, but do you have anything defined within that file/13:16
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rpintoyes Pici, there is some stuff defined13:17
rpintodont know wat it is though13:17
rpintosome virtualHost stuff13:17
rpintolocalhost13:17
Picirpinto: Put it inside the virtalhost section13:17
rpintook13:18
BenignoCHello, I hope I am not off topic: I am running alestic image ami-7a86ae0e, however, it doesn't seem to find any of the ec2 commands, do I need to install them as described at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2APITools#fndef-f90bdfb72295593c373fd151aa512b6a870e2761-0 ? (they are suppossedly there from what I read in the docs...13:19
erichammondBenignoC: The EC2 AMI command line tools are installed on all AMIs published on http://alestic.com13:23
rpintoPici, i added it, still not working for me13:23
erichammondWhat command are you trying to run?13:23
Picirpinto: You'll need to restart apache before the changes will go into effect.13:23
rpintoohk13:24
BenignoCec2-create-snapshot13:24
erichammondBenignoC: The ec2-create-snapshot command is part of the EC2 API command line tools (not the AMI command line tools).13:25
erichammondThose are not installed by default.13:25
rpintoPici, still not working13:25
BenignoCerichammond: ah, sorry, Its my first day with EC2.13:26
erichammondBenignoC: Welcome to EC2.  I think everybody runs into that confusing trap.  You have a few more ahead of you :)13:27
rpintoPici, when i tried reloading smokeping, an error occurs13:28
rpinto * Reloading latency logger daemon configuration...                             ERROR: Can not read pid from /var/run/smokeping/smokeping.pid: No such file or directory13:28
BenignoCerichammond: I am not particularly knowledgeable about any particular distro (actually quite the contrary, more into programing than systems administration) so, any particular ami that you would advise for a newbie? I was trying 8.04 Hardy for Europe by alestic but dont know if there are better options for me.13:30
erichammondBenignoC: I'm slightly biased since I built and use that particular image in production (in the US).  I think it's a good one :)13:31
erichammondBenignoC: If you're willing to test out some Beta software (not for production use), I would also recommend trying the Karmic Beta AMI published by Canonical.  I list it a bit lower down on http://alestic.com13:34
BenignoCerichammond: Heh, I should have guessed by the name, I was asking more based on "newbieness" of the user rather than on the quality of the Ami. Anyways, any good guide you would recommend for setting up a LAMP server starting from your Hardy ami?. I was going down your Article on setting up My_SQL with EBS and XFS when I bumped into those ec2 commands...13:37
erichammondBenignoC: Ah, for that tutorial ( http://ec2ebs-mysql.notlong.com ) you are expected to run the ec2-create-snapshot command on your local system which should have the EC2 API tools installed.13:38
erichammondOnce you've figured out how to use EBS volumes, the rest of the LAMP setup would be like any normal Ubuntu system.13:39
erichammondYou would make sure that all of your database, logs, and other important files are stored on the EBS volume.13:40
erichammondIt is also a good goal to be able to start up a new replacement instance quickly, so document the exact steps you take to configure the system and/or create a script which can automate the steps.13:41
BenignoCOther than the sql databases, is it a good idea to also put in there all the actual code of the web application into the EBS ?13:41
erichammondSure, whatever you don't want to lose when the system dies unexpectedly.13:41
erichammondYou can use the same "mount bind" approach as described in the tutorial for the MySQL database.13:42
BenignoCyes, its quite nice and clear. Thanks a lot for all your help and tutorials. I'd better continue working on reading doc to see if I can manage on my own now.13:45
uvirtbotNew bug: #444504 in eucalyptus (main) "Autoregistration through upstart, while working, uses strange ways" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44450413:53
AzizLighthi everybody13:54
AzizLightif I want to add a ServerName to my server, where and how do I need to do it? I think it might be in http.conf but I don't know the syntax13:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #444531 in kvm (universe) "Guest kernel can't read TSC frequency from the hypervisor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44453114:11
Tohuw2!backup | Tohuw14:16
ubottuTohuw: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning14:16
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ubottuTohuw, please see my private message14:49
Tohuw!sbackup > Tohuw14:50
ubottuTohuw, please see my private message14:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #443325 in eucalyptus "/services/Heartbeat fails on exception" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44332514:51
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uvirtbotNew bug: #444560 in eucalyptus (main) "eucalyptus-cc upstart job post-start script always fails" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44456015:05
_rubenhmm .. too bad dovecot's still at 1.1.x for karmic, might roll my own 1.2.x packages15:08
jcastroDaviey: ping15:10
soren_ruben: What's new and shiny in 1.2.x?15:12
_rubenits sieve part15:15
_rubenbut then again, sieve would be new thing for us anyways .. wondering what'd be more troublesome: rolling 1.2 packages, or the upgrade from 1.1 to 1.2 at a later time15:17
_rubenupgrade notes seem fairly painless15:18
rrittenhouseThe new "Install to iSCSI" feature in Karmic - is that only available on the Server cd?15:18
BenignoCInstalled tasksel install lamp-server, and phpmyadmin. My security groups include now HTTP: tcp from 80 to 80 source IP or group: 0.0.0.0/0.  And I keep getting timeouts on accessing the public dns. is the security group correct? else where should I look for the error?.15:25
AzizLightif I want to add a ServerName to my server, where and how do I need to do it? I think it might be in http.conf but I don't know the syntax, can someone help me please?15:26
zoopsterAzizLight: single server? using the default site?15:28
AzizLightzoopster: it's a developement server, I want to assign a dyndns to it15:29
zoopsterAzizLight: to add a servername directive to apache...the syntax is simply ServerName www.server.com15:30
AzizLightzoopster: and I just have to add that to httpd.conf?15:30
zoopsterAzizLight: by default ubuntu sets up virtualhosts...so I'd put it in the default site /etc/apache2/sites-available/default15:33
AzizLightzoopster: I see...where in the file should I add the ServerName line? :S15:36
zoopsterAzizLight: inside the VirtualHost directive anywhere...I usually put it at the top, but it doesn't matter15:37
AzizLightzoopster: great, it worked, thanks a lot :)15:38
zoopsterAzizLight: sure15:39
BenignoCI have an apache2 server running, where should I look at if I am getting time outs on the public DNS?. I have set an http tcp 80 to 80 for all ips 0.0.0.0/0 on its security groups.. any test or checks I can do to pinpoint where I am getting the problem ?15:52
uvirtbotNew bug: #444598 in vm-builder (universe) "rename uec kernel/ramdisk for automated downloading or easier doc" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44459815:55
uvirtbotNew bug: #444605 in vm-builder (universe) "make sure source is obtainable for uec kernel images" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44460516:01
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uvirtbotNew bug: #440762 in vm-builder (universe) "ec2-images have ubuntu.canonical.com in /etc/hosts (dup-of: 440757)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44076216:11
smosererichammond, so you think /etc/hosts shouldn't have any 127.0.1.1 (bug 407861)16:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 407861 in ubuntu-on-ec2 "ec2-init: ec2-set-hostname should be eliminated, trust DHCP" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40786116:12
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smosererichammond, so you think /etc/hosts shouldn't have any 127.0.1.1 (bug 407861)16:21
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 407861 in ubuntu-on-ec2 "ec2-init: ec2-set-hostname should be eliminated, trust DHCP" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40786116:21
smoserand please re-read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEC/Images/NamingConvention . i think that both images and kernel/ramdisk are reasonably finished16:22
jcastroDaviey: please post some results on the EC2 wiki page.16:22
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jcastroDaviey: or I will hunt you down with crumpets16:23
Davieyjcastro: on it!16:24
jcastro<316:24
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smosersoren, what things are you aware of that use ec2-version-query right now?16:39
sorensmoser: The bundling script.16:39
smoseri'd like to make sure that i updated anything correctly16:39
sorensmoser: That's about it.16:40
smoseris that it?16:40
smoserok.16:40
sorensmoser: a) The specific format was never blessed and b) it was never moved to an official location, so it was never really announced. If someone saw the spec and started using it, I doubt they'll be surprised if it stops working. I'm reasonably sure the spec even says that the location is temporary.16:41
smoseryeah, i doubt anyone would expect ~soren to be official16:42
sorensmoser: Well, "soren" does have a bit of a ring to it :), but I'm sure we'll be fine.16:42
smosercan someone please accept my nominations for karmic of bug 440757, bug 444605, bug 44459816:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 440757 in vm-builder "ec2-images have ubuntu.canonical.com in /etc/hosts" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44075716:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 444605 in vm-builder "make sure source is obtainable for uec kernel images" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44460516:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 444598 in vm-builder "rename uec kernel/ramdisk for automated downloading or easier doc" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44459816:56
smoserzul, soren, kirkland, ttx ^^16:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #440757 in vm-builder (universe) "ec2-images have ubuntu.canonical.com in /etc/hosts" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44075716:56
ttxsmoser: I'm on it16:56
ttxsmoser: done16:57
ttx(if Lp doesn't timeout)16:57
ruben23hi17:26
BenignoCI have uploaded a bundle, and now want to register it. I run ec2-register $bucket/$prefix.manifest.xml and get the following error: [Deprecated] Xalan: org.apache.xml.res.XMLErrorResources_en_US17:42
BenignoCClient.InvalidManifest: HTTP 301 (Moved Permanently) response for URL http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ad-amis/ubuntu.manifest.xml: check your manifest path is correct and in the correct region.17:42
BenignoCCan anyone help me?17:42
smoserBenignoC, is was going to suggest the region17:43
BenignoChow do I set it up on the command or config ?17:43
smoserwith s3cmd i've looked at the 'info' (s3cmd info) for the bucket and make sure the LOCATION is correct17:44
smoserbut it looks like maybe you didn't give bucket correctly ? that url in the redirect seems strange17:44
smoseror at least short17:45
smoseroh, you're bucket is "ad-amis" ?17:45
smoserkirkland, or other, how much space does an archive mirror take ?17:45
smoserother thing, (guessing based on 'deprecated') what is your ec2-api-tools version17:46
BenignoCsmoser: I have just started using SC2 and S3 today, I am not sure to what info you refer17:46
_rubenhardy+intrepid+jaunty i386+amd64 using debmirror: 164GB17:46
smoserin the uri above, it contains the string 'ad-amis'17:47
smoser_ruben, thanks. very helpful.17:47
_rubensmoser: tho im (also) kinda interested what a "full" mirror would take, now i lack the debian-installer stuff for instance17:48
smoserBenignoC, it also includes "ubuntu.manifest.xml" which i'm guessing is your $prefix.17:48
_rubenshouldnt take all that much more i'd say17:48
BenignoChmmm I dont recall the version but I downloaded just today from amazon, trying to find it now.17:49
smosershoot. _ruben : http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/mirror/117:49
BenignoCprefix was just ubuntu for me.17:49
BenignoCsmoser: 1.3-4258417:49
_rubensmoser: nice :)17:51
smoser_ruben, 'A "full archives" mirror is around 210GB'17:51
ivoks:(17:51
ivoksi missed it again17:51
_ruben210 + 40 .. that's doable17:51
smoserBenignoC, then i suggest that you must be missing 'bucket' ? verify you have that.17:52
_rubenwonder if i can use my debmirror-created local mirror as a base for a full rsync .. ought not to be a problem i'd say17:52
BenignoCI am checking my bucket using the firefox utility, and I see all the contents within ad-amis17:52
smoserbut your syntax is correct. i've just registered earlier today with: ec2-register smoser-test-us/foof.manifest.xml17:52
smoserBenignoC, you bundled and uploaded (ec2-bundle-image and ec2-upload-image) ?17:52
BenignoCsmoser: I followed instructions as in http://alestic.com/mt/mt-search.cgi?search=bundle&IncludeBlogs=1&limit=2017:53
RoyKvirtualbox isn't listed under 'optimised for' with JeOS - should it work well anyway+17:53
smoserBenignoC, i'm sorry, i'm out of ideas. ec2 api tools are not very friendly when they dont work.17:55
BenignoCsmoser: I have the bundle uploaded on S3, now, If I dont have it registered as an AMI, can I safelly terminate my current machine ? I mean can I recover the work without it registered?.17:56
smoserwell, yeah, assuming its uploaded correctly.17:56
BenignoCheh, feels kind of risky17:58
BenignoCsmoser: ec2-register ad-amis/ubuntu.manifest.xml -U https://eu-west-1.ec2.amazonaws.com  has worked18:01
BenignoCthanks to all. ciao.18:05
bventura.18:06
erichammondsmoser: /etc/hosts works for me without any 127.0.1.1 and I'm not aware of any negative impact when DHCP is setting the host name.  I don't know the correct Ubuntu way to manage this, but I'm pretty sure that having the incorrect hostname in /etc/hosts is bad.18:09
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uvirtbotNew bug: #394353 in libvirt (main) "Libvirt allows definition of several domains with the same UUID" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39435318:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #307328 in dnsmasq (universe) "dnsmasq should ONLY bind the virtual interface, not hog the whole system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30732819:08
kirklandsmoser: i use a 400GB hard drive for my mirror19:11
uvirtbotNew bug: #337936 in libvirt "Please backport 6.01, and/or 6.1 to intrepid." [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33793619:12
pmatuliskirkland: what is the status of kvm updates (-84) these days?19:13
kirklandpmatulis: what do you mean?19:24
kirklandpmatulis: kvm-84 has been backported to hardy/intrepid and is in jaunty19:25
kirklandpmatulis: i don't plan on ever updating kvm-62 in hardy or kvm-72 in intrepid19:25
kirklandpmatulis: it has to be a kitten-killer to change kvm-84 at this point19:25
kirklandpmatulis: i know of one potential kitten killer right now19:25
kirklandpmatulis: involving qcow2 corruption19:25
kirklandpmatulis: i'll probably take a look at that after karmic goes RC19:26
pmatuliskirkland: k, thought i looked in hardy backports the other day and couldn't find -8419:26
kirklandpmatulis: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kvm19:26
kirklandThe Hardy Heron  (supported)19:26
kirklandSet upstream link19:26
kirklandShow details 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu12.3~hardy1 backports (main) five weeks ago19:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #239263 in libvirt (main) "virDomainBlockStats not supported by the hypervisor" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23926319:27
uvirtbotNew bug: #291570 in libvirt (main) "segmentation fault installing python-libvirt" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29157019:27
pmatuliskirkland: i was looking here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-backports19:28
kirklandpmatulis: hmm, okay19:33
pmatuliskirkland: still can't find it there but, yeah, not sure how i missed the LP page19:33
mathiazzul: when triaging bugs, could you make sure that the importance is set?19:35
zulmathiaz: sure19:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #372001 in libvirt (main) "default network autostart symlink recreated" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37200119:37
uvirtbotNew bug: #350936 in libvirt (universe) "kvm stop rc" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35093619:43
uvirtbotNew bug: #385439 in libvirt (main) "No port-forwarding to guest is possible" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38543919:43
uvirtbotNew bug: #345485 in libvirt (main) "libvirt does not remove interfaces on stop" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34548519:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #260801 in virt-manager (main) "virt manager freezes mouse when started with usb mouse plugged" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26080120:08
uvirtbotNew bug: #349270 in libvirt (main) "inconsistency in drive allocation" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34927020:12
uvirtbotNew bug: #354486 in libvirt (main) "package libvirt-bin 0.6.1-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35448620:12
uvirtbotNew bug: #358995 in libvirt (main) "Update crashed (dup-of: 426045)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35899520:16
uvirtbotNew bug: #390281 in libvirt (universe) "virsh undefine might undefine the wrong vm" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39028120:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #252916 in libvirt (main) "Qemu call broken when domain type is "kvm"" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25291620:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #363778 in libvirt (main) "package libvirt-bin 0.6.1-0ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36377820:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #239354 in virt-manager (main) "Unable to complete install '<class 'libvirt.libvirtError'> virDomainCreateLinux() failed Failure while reading monitor startup output: Input/output error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23935420:32
uvirtbotNew bug: #238692 in virt-manager "Virtual Machine CD-ROM disappears on its own - kvm virt-manager " [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23869220:36
zuldont worry libvirt is done now20:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #242953 in libvirt (main) "libvirtd is broken with diskless domains" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24295320:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #275947 in libvirt (main) "libvirtd (64-bit) xenDaemonNodeGetInfo bug (SIGFPE)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27594720:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #334274 in libvirt (universe) "the sco unix guest can't boot  with hd" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33427420:47
uvirtbotNew bug: #366455 in libvirt (main) "qemu+tls server certificate validation failure (The certificate is not trusted)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36645520:47
Mc-kayjust one quick question, and I have been stuck on this for months, getting a mail server to respond to incoming mail from the net, ubuntu's own default server only seems to keep things local?20:52
CodeDrunkMc-kay, What mail server are you using? Postfix, Exim, or something else?20:54
Mc-kayI tried postfix, had issues, tried exim, this didnt wanna install, there are others20:55
bventuraMc-Kay did you port forward on your router or firewall to allow incoming connections to your mail server?20:56
Mc-kaygetting one of the Linux format Mags, that read a page on installing a mainserver on ubuntu, I soon replied that, this page was out of date and didnt working on 8.10 or 9.0420:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #391980 in vm-builder (universe) "JeOS does not have name resolution in place when boot.sh is executed." [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39198020:57
CrypiaMc-kay: dpkg-reconfigure postfix, to setup postfix20:57
CodeDrunkUsually postfix is very quick to get working in default form, are you sure mail is getting to the server as bventura mentioned?20:57
Mc-kaybventura, yep, i run alot of servers on here, including forums, where ive had to remove email registeration20:57
Mc-kaylets try that20:57
bventuraMc-Kay i'm not sure if you've seen this but this guide here is rock solid, works for me every time:20:58
bventurahttps://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html20:58
bventurajust one typo on this page:https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html#postfix-installation20:58
CrypiaMc-kay: but like bventura said, make sure your firewall is set AND most ISP's dont' allow unauthenticated outgoing email so you might need to use their smtp server, or a service like DYNDNS mail hop20:58
dasunsrule321I got a question about active directory and 9.04 integration20:58
bventura192.168.0/24 should be 192.168.0.0/2420:58
bventuravery good point from Crypia, might be your ISP blocking you do you have static IP?20:58
Mc-kaymy ip is static, and ive dmz to this box for now20:59
Mc-kayi think the problem all alone has been me, setting things up poorly20:59
bventuracan you telnet to the outside address?20:59
bventurahehee20:59
bventuratry that guide above20:59
Mc-kayyeah i can20:59
Crypiawhen I first got U-Verse, it was blocked, but after one call requesting it to be unblocked it was opened for me21:00
bventurasame here i'm also on ATT, you must ask to unblock21:00
CodeDrunkI never think of that being on Charter, nothing is blocked.21:00
bventuraare the DNS records all squared aaway?  I did this once and everything worked fine local, but if I tried to send to or from hotmail it didn't work because I had dns problem21:01
dasunsrule321I have a workstation running Jaunty, I have it integrated into AD correctly, using Likewise open, I have added a AD goup (ad.user.admin.group) and have added it to the sudoers file. I can successfully use all the sudo functionality with the group and users listed within the group. I am having an issue with Gnome working correctly however, I cannot access several functions, as it thinks that I am not an admin on the local box. How21:01
Mc-kaydns records all point here.. and this local address from the router.21:02
Mc-kaylooking at the ubuntu web page you sent me21:02
Crypiabventura: might have been a dns issue with your domain not resolving a dns lookup on the receiving end, are you sending from a registered domain name that resolves back to that IP in DNS?21:02
CodeDrunkdasunsrule321, Are you logging into X with your netbios domain? eg. DOMAIN\username or DOMAIN\\username?21:02
dasunsrule321Yes21:03
bventuraCrypia I wasn't but once I fixed it it all just worked21:03
bventuramc-kay, yes that guide is really good i've run thru it 10 times or so and it works really well21:03
bventurajust that one typo I mentioned watch out for it21:03
dasunsrule321CodeDrunk: Again, I have full root privileges, just not within Gnome21:04
Mc-kaybventura, thankyou mate, im only doing this now because I have spammers on the forums I run..21:04
bventuraoh man I hate those forum spam21:05
dasunsrule321If I try to access things such as users and groups, etc, it tells me I do not have enough privileges21:05
bventurai get a lot of those too21:05
Mc-kayi get about 5-9 bots a day sign up, and post crap21:05
dasunsrule321Mc-kay, what forum do you use?21:05
Mc-kayno email reg set, because of the mail server issue.21:05
Mc-kaySMF21:05
dasunsrule321Ok21:05
bventurai'm not sure I understand how will haveing a your own mail server fight the bots21:06
dasunsrule321I run Punbb21:06
CodeDrunkWhen you said you have added the AD group, is this just for the sudoers file or in /etc/group for adm and admin groups?21:06
dasunsrule321In sudoerss21:06
dasunsrule321What is the syntax to add the domain user to the group file?21:06
Mc-kaybventura, it would force them to wait for an email, before they allowed on the board, not just sign up and free riot21:06
dasunsrule321This doesn't seem to be well documented21:06
bventurai see21:07
CodeDrunkNo it's not, I had a similar issue that this fixed. Let me see if I can SSH to that server and see what I did.21:07
dasunsrule321Ok21:07
Mc-kayi have about 10 domains, this is only a nightmare with ubuntu21:07
dasunsrule321That would be awesome!21:07
dasunsrule321thank you21:07
Mc-kayyou cant give them there own group21:07
CodeDrunkdasunsrule321, Problem is it will not accept an AD group in the group file, only users. You can add yourself to admin:x:0: using DOMAIN\username and see if that fixes it.21:08
dasunsrule321I tried that21:09
bventurawell good luck mc-kay i'm off to lunch BB in 2021:09
dasunsrule321nada21:09
Mc-kaybventura, you have been more then helpful. :)21:09
dasunsrule321I tried " " ' ' too21:09
dasunsrule321nothing21:09
dasunsrule321let me ask you this21:09
CodeDrunkdasunsrule321, I'm sorry, my mistake. It's AD alias not domain. eg. Domain Admins\username21:10
dasunsrule321do you need to add the user to adm and admin21:10
dasunsrule321ok, so group\user21:10
dasunsrule321i was doing domain\user21:10
CodeDrunkIt's complicated, depending on how AD is setup it could be group\user or just the AD username alone.21:11
dasunsrule321hmmm21:11
CrypiaI have to do a "sudo xhost +" every time I connect with ssh and want to run an X app, is there a global setting where I can disable access control?21:11
CodeDrunkIf there isn't an alias it would be DOMAIN\\username21:11
dasunsrule321Right21:12
dasunsrule321BRB, let me restart X and see what happens21:13
dasunsrule321Do I need to be in the adm and admin group?21:13
sorenmathiaz: I've never really had a chance to play much with Kerberos. Does it authenticate using pam and then grants the user a ticket, or does it have its own internal authentication mechanism?21:13
CodeDrunkYes, and be sure to restart/reload likewise too21:13
dasunsrule321Ok21:13
dasunsrule321brb21:13
mathiazsoren: there is a pam_krb5 module21:13
sorenI thought that was the other way around.21:14
mathiazsoren: which will get a TGT for the user21:14
soren..i.e. have stuff that uses PAM authenticate against krb.21:14
sorenAh, I see.21:14
dasunsrule321what is the likewise service?21:14
dasunsrule321dcerpcd right?21:15
sorenmathiaz: so if that module is reached in the pam stack, it assumes authentication was succesful and grants the ticket?21:15
dasunsrule321yep21:15
mathiazsoren: oh no. It still uses the supplied password to authenticate the user21:16
mathiazsoren: basically the Ticket issued by the KDC is encrypted with a passphrase derived from the user password21:16
mathiazsoren: so the user's password is still needed to get the TGT functional21:16
sorenmathiaz: So if I had a hardware token one-time-password based authentication setup, I can't use that with kerberos?21:17
dasunsrule32CodeDrunk: no dice21:17
tarvid_100BaseT to Ciena 3920 - large packets are getting blocked.21:17
mathiazsoren: you could - I think you'd have use the PKINIT extension21:17
tarvid_Largest successful transter about 145021:17
dasunsrule32I can access Add/Remove... now21:17
mathiazsoren: which is a pre-auth mechanism21:17
CodeDrunkdasunsrule32, Hmm strange21:17
dasunsrule32Still cannot access users and groups21:18
tarvid_is there a chance the 3920 is sending jumbo packets my ethernet interface can't handle?21:18
dasunsrule32tho it seems I can access the other areas21:18
sorenmathiaz: Hm.. Ok.21:18
sorenmathiaz: I get the feeling this is very much not straight forward.21:18
mathiazsoren: yop - it's not an OOTB setup21:18
mathiazsoren: I'm not sure that krb5 1.7 completly supports it.21:19
CodeDrunkdasunsrule32: I belive thats the right track but User & Groups must require some other form of credentials instead of the basic group layout.21:19
dasunsrule32I assume so21:20
dasunsrule32I suppose it doesn't matter that much21:20
dasunsrule32Since all users are going to be added via the domain21:20
CodeDrunkCan you access the Network Config/Administration?21:21
dasunsrule32Yes21:22
dasunsrule32Everything21:22
dasunsrule32Printers21:22
dasunsrule32etc21:22
dasunsrule32Just not users and groups21:22
tarvid_any trick to supporting jumbo frames?21:23
dasunsrule32CodeDrunk: Must I be part of the lpadmin group to print?21:24
CodeDrunkdasunsrule32, Yes, and plugdev to use USB devices.21:24
dasunsrule32Ok21:24
kirklandzul: yo21:24
kirklandzul: thanks for triaging libvirt21:25
kirklandzul: i added some priorities to the ones that were still undecided21:25
dasunsrule32CodeDrunk: BRB21:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #296530 in libvirt (main) "virsh --quiet not quiet about "Connecting to uri:"" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29653021:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #231328 in libvirt (main) "provide support for non-us keyboard in vnc server" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23132821:27
dasunsrule32CodeDrunk: Looks like I can add just the domain group to the group file21:28
dasunsrule32I will see in a sec21:28
dasunsrule32I just added my goup21:28
dasunsrule32group21:28
CodeDrunkdasunsrule32, It would be excellent if you can get that to work, I never could for some reason. I could only use domain user accounts, no groups.21:29
dasunsrule32maybe not21:29
dasunsrule32hmm21:29
dasunsrule32I can access the print queue this time21:29
dasunsrule32but it is haning21:29
dasunsrule32hanging in the processing mode21:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #443015 in libvirt (main) "package libvirt-bin 0.6.1-0ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zur?ck" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44301521:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #338283 in virt-manager (main) "virt-manager can't open Linux VM's under Xen" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33828321:33
uvirtbotNew bug: #350751 in libvirt (universe) "kvm images created under 8.10 fail to load" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35075121:33
uvirtbotNew bug: #355907 in libvirt (main) "Reinstall error on libvirt -- group already exists" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35590721:33
zulmathiaz: why isnt virt-manager subscribe to ubuntu-server and libvirt is?21:45
mathiazzul: omission?21:45
zulcould be21:45
mathiazzul: may be ubuntu-virt is a bug contact21:46
zulubuntu-virt is21:46
zulmathiaz: im going to go through the seeds tomorrow to check if we are missing anything21:47
Mc-kayummm  bugger21:50
Mc-kaythe boxname needs to be changed.21:50
Mc-kayLOL21:50
Mc-kayroot@kv-laptop:/home#21:51
Mc-kayi need to find out how to change that21:51
jpds!hostname | Mc-kay21:52
ubottuMc-kay: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at System > Administration > Networking on the "General" tab21:52
Mc-kaythankyou21:52
geniiHm. "root@wherever"21:54
Mc-kaysorted21:55
Mc-kayi did something sopid mind you, I did chmod -R 777 *21:56
dasunsrule32CodeDrunk: I cannot even print21:56
Mc-kaybut its where i did it, i forget i was in the root system21:56
dasunsrule32Were you able to get this to work?21:56
Mc-kayso etc/ and so on got changed21:56
Mc-kayim pondering how to set the permissions back, LMAO21:57
Mc-kaynot happy the whole filesystem is writable21:57
bventuraouch mc-kay you chmodded your whole /etc ?21:58
Mc-kayand more, i was doing something in my /home/ folder. but i forget I was just in /21:59
bventurai dont think you can undo that you may have to reinstall21:59
Mc-kaythat would be very painful21:59
Mc-kayive had the box running for 6 months without shutdown21:59
bventurado you have backup?22:00
Mc-kayyeah i do, all i need to do is backup the sql stuff and reinstall, i have a custom copy done with remastersys22:00
bventuracool22:01
Mc-kaythinking of running a best linux desktop competition22:04
Mc-kayhttp://img97.imageshack.us/i/screenshoth.png/22:04
Mc-kayhowever, i better reinstall my other box now ive buggered it up22:05
guntbert<Mc-kay> but its where i did it, i forget i was in the root system - thats why we advocate against doing ordinary work as root :-)22:06
Mc-kayLOL, i know22:07
Mc-kayi dont make stupid mistakes normally, what i was installing needed to be in root, i walked off the do something else, come back and carried on..22:08
guntbertMc-kay: I didn't want to laugh about you - I know the feeling too well - but a little reminder serves us all :-)22:09
bventuraso hows that mail server coming along mc-kay any progress?22:10
Mc-kayyeah, i think so22:10
bventuranice22:10
Mc-kayhow to do it again, mind you after the little chmod disaster22:11
bventurahehee22:11
Mc-kayill do it tomorrow22:11
Mc-kaytoo tired22:11
bventuraits always good to practice22:11
Mc-kaynot when you run a server with 33 sites on, you tend to not want to reboot or redo22:12
Mc-kaybut its cool, its need to be the 9.04, not 8.0422:12
bventurayeah22:13
Mc-kaytrying to get one of my forums to send reg via email22:13
kirklandsmoser: ping22:15
kirklandsmoser: we're testing the karmic uec images22:15
kirklandsmoser: we can get the eucalyptus-provided images running22:15
kirklandsmoser: but not our uec images yet22:15
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kirklandsmoser: can i get some help?22:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #391077 in logwatch (universe) "Filter out dovecot "Logged out" messages" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39107722:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #443252 in logwatch (universe) "[FFe] new upstream version closes several bugs, includes more bug fixes" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44325222:36
dasunsrule32When I run kinit user, it does not return any value22:40
dasunsrule32am I having an authentication issue with kerb5?22:41
dasunsrule32I am sorry, I ran klist22:42
dasunsrule32and I do have the ticket cached22:42
pietrubenshello22:49
pietrubensproblem: finished a dual-boot vista/ubuntu8.10, in vista wireless ok, in ubuntu nothing, somebody recomended in terminal lspci, a bunch of info appeared,i have no clue, and still not working. hardware: laptop, HP pavilion22:49
pietrubenshere's the catch: i am an absolute ubuntu newby, could use some step-by step info, not some reference to some how-to guides (where i have been looking a lot, but still do not understand)22:50
jpdspietrubens: This channel is for server support, you might want to try #ubuntu for laptops.22:51
pietrubensi tried, but got only some "look-at that site" help22:52
pietrubensso, i am looking for a good soul the give me an absolutely noob hands on explaination22:52
pietrubensthat is, if someone has the patience, since i do know that i am asking a hell of a lot22:53
sorenI'm terribly sorry, but just because #ubuntu was not helpful enough does not make this on topic for this channel.22:53
sorenPerhaps the users mailing list or the forums will be useful.22:53
sorenThis channel... not so much :)22:54
pietrubensi do realize, did not want to break rules, just looking for help22:54
sorenpietrubens: It's not just about willingness to help. It's just as much about people speciialising in server related things in here and not so much about wireless networks on laptops.22:55
sorenpietrubens: The fact is simply that this is not the best place to get qualified help for your problem.22:55
pietrubensdeep down i knew :s22:56
soren#ubuntu /should/ be, but I understand that its helfulness varies with the people in it. I hear www.ubuntuforums.org tends to be helpful to many people.22:56
pietrubensi'm heading there right now ;)22:57
sorenGood luck :)22:57
pietrubensi need it, want to install it to listen to some radio tnite already ;)22:58
pietrubenssorry yet again22:58
NwallinsHi, I found a bug in ruby1.8 that ships with 9.04 -- that has been fixed by upstream23:06
uvirtbotNew bug: #444946 in eucalyptus (main) "eucalyptus does not survive a reboot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44494623:07
Nwallinsis this something worth reporting, or any chance of getting an update to 9.04?23:07
Nwallinshttp://pastie.org/64458723:08
kirklandNwallins: changes of getting into 9.04 are slim23:08
Nwallinsthere is a patchlevel 174, at least, where this is fixed23:08
kirklandNwallins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates23:09
kirklandNwallins: must meet those criteria23:09
Nwallinskirkland: makes sense23:09
kirklandNwallins: do you have access to 9.10?23:09
kirklandNwallins: it would be worth verifying that the bug is fixed there23:10
kirklandNwallins: we can fix bugs in 9.10 for about another 9 days23:10
kirklandNwallins: then 9.10 gets locked down23:10
Nwallinsgotcha23:10
kirklandNwallins: and we'll start focusing on 10.0423:10
Nwallinsi don't have easy access to it, but my pastie should suffice23:10
Nwallinsfor someone who does and has the inclination23:10
Nwallinstakes 60 seconds to actually verify23:11
Nwallinsshould not result in segfault or deadlock23:11
Nwallinsi am running jeos on the platform where i noticed the bug23:12
Nwallinsi am not going to be testing 9.10 on it23:12
kirklandNwallins: your script/test works for me on 9.1023:12
Nwallinsbut i do have a 9.04 at home, but it is AMD6423:12
Nwallinsno segfault?23:12
kirklandNwallins: no segfault23:12
kirklandNwallins: exits 023:12
Nwallinsok, great23:13
Nwallinsi assume you see a 'hi mom'23:13
Nwallinsor hello world or whatever23:13
kirklandkirkland@x200:/tmp$ ruby -v23:13
kirklandruby 1.8.7 (2009-06-12 patchlevel 174) [x86_64-linux]23:13
Nwallinsy, i confirmed in #ruby-lang that patchlevel 174 has it fixed23:13
Nwallinsgreat!23:13
kirklandNwallins: cheers23:13
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Nwallinskirkland: can you tell me, or show me how to find, which version of ruby1.9 is in 9.10?23:17
kirklandNwallins: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby1.923:18
aubreare we still needing people to test this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcx8HZWSYB8 and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0wc4LCSqHI&feature=related ?23:19
aubreRe: eucalyptus on Karmic  that is23:20
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