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h00ker, coly crap.  My girlfriend's ubuntuone log was 38.2gb's01:05
causasuiNice.01:05
h00kshe was getting a notification about her /home being full which was odd.  turns out, she has a 38.2gb log.01:05
* h00k facepalms01:06
h00knot sure why01:06
h00kI don't even /want/ to try to open the file.01:06
h00kI lied, 39.8gbs01:09
causasuiOh well in that case, forget it01:10
causasui38.2gb is fine but 39.8? no way01:11
h00kcausasui: :p01:21
h00kcausasui:  I found a bug report regarding log file size and added to it.01:22
h00kthat could be detrimental for  something like a netbook01:22
h00kshe's only had it for a few days, too01:24
jblounth00k: Sorry about that! We've got an open bug, you should be able to kill the log if everything is working ok.01:55
jblounth00k: Of course, if you wanted to tail it just to see some of the contents and add it to the bug report, that would be great ;)01:55
jblounthttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/43513701:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 435137 in ubuntuone-client "size of log files should be controlled" [High,Triaged]01:56
h00kjblount: yeah, I did add to the report01:56
jblounth00k: Nice, thanks a lot!01:57
jblountLooks like you got to it before I got to you. Thanks again!01:57
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* jblount scowls at the time05:24
mangroovie1Has anyone experienced this: upon installing on fresh computer (with the same local hostname) the cloud repository was emptied.??06:38
mangroovie1Technically it did it as it should, but I wonder why no confirmation was asked...06:38
mangroovie1Is there a history / backup in ubuntuone ? (dropbox has)06:38
doktoreashello folks09:27
imyousufHi09:57
FNDaquarius_: you wanted to discuss the demo app?10:13
aquarius_I did indeed10:23
FNDbring it on10:23
aquarius_FND, a few things10:24
aquarius_first:  "tags": ["foo", "bar"], # XXX: weird representation in CouchDB!?10:24
aquarius_the representation in couch is not weird just for the hell of it ;-)10:24
aquarius_we use MergeableLists (a uuid-keyed dictionary) rather than ordinary Python lists, because ordinary Python lists have a merge problem.10:24
aquarius_if you're reconciling changes between the same database in two places (by replication), and one has an item which is a list ["one", "two", "three"], and the other has ["one", "ahaha", "three"] for the same item...10:25
aquarius_you can't tell whether db2 *changed* the second item to be "ahaha", or whether it *deleted* the "two" item and *added* a new "ahaha" item in position 2 of the list.10:26
FNDI figured it'd be something like that - good you picked up on the comment!10:26
aquarius_with uuid-keyed dicts you can, because the uuids will be different.10:26
aquarius_"timestamp": "2009-10-04 08:00", # XXX: native date object? - we haven't talked about dates, much. One of the things I'm trying to avoid doing is mandating a load of specific format stuff. You can put whatever you like in a record.10:27
aquarius_so some apps may store dates as ISO format, some may not, etc.10:27
aquarius_this is slightly awkward if you are trying to parse arbitrary stuff, but it makes it way more flexible for transforming existing formats into desktopcouch and out again10:28
aquarius_I don't want to make it look like SQL where there are named formats :)10:28
aquarius_I'm concerned about: db.add_view("complete data", map_full, None, "reports") # XXX: auth error10:28
FNDI agree on that10:28
FNDthat comment is obsolete now10:29
FNDwas fixed by upgrading the beta system10:29
aquarius_cool10:31
aquarius_you have noted that you can't create reduce-only views10:31
FNDI should mention that reference.py is just a random collection of snippets while I was learning - I included it with the intention for it to be updated and integrated as soon as I learn more10:32
aquarius_ah, right, OK :)10:35
FNDdo you use Git(Hub) at all? feel free to fork10:36
aquarius_from a non-desktopcouch sort of perspective, I'm not sure what the point of _retrieve_records is, since you're wrapping our API in your own very same identical API ;)10:36
FNDyeah, there's a bunch of stuff like that - I started out trying to be linear and transparent (thus no OO), but somehow lost that path a bit10:37
aquarius_I shall happily fork if I get a chance and think of something to do with the app, but for the moment I'm happy to see you playing with it and offer comments or suggestions :)10:37
FNDsounds good - much appreciated10:37
FNDaquarius_: I remember now what _store_record is good for (in theory)11:26
FNDit separates the storage backend from the note-processing11:27
FNDso I could override it to store to a RDBMS if I wanted to, or plain-text files11:27
aquarius_ah, yeah, gotcha.11:29
aquarius_so it's an abstraction API over databases, which happens to only have one back end (DC) implemented.11:29
FNDyeah - normally, it'd be more elegant of course11:29
FNDgotta run bbl11:30
doktoreashello everybody12:01
doktoreasanyon using karmig has got a problem of missing connection at startup?12:01
jimlovell777Is it known whether or not file encryption will be supported at some point with UbuntuOne? I don't have files I need to lock up NSA style but as far as privacy goes I'd like to know that hackers and/or employees can't go browsing through my stuff.12:20
FNDaquarius_: there's no special magic to Desktop Couch's CouchDB, is there? i.e. it's accessible it like any other CouchDB instance, you just provide wrappers that make it easier13:03
aquarius_correct, except that you *must* authenticate, and you pretty much must authenticate with oauth (because the basic auth password is randomly generated and then immediately hashed)13:04
FNDroger that13:05
aquarius_if you want to get at futon, open ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html in your browser. And then bookmark that page so you can get at it again :)13:05
aquarius_don't bookmark the actual futon address, because the port is randomly chosen every time DC starts up.13:05
aquarius_jimlovell777, we're planning for encryption to happen on your machine, integrating with Ubuntu's support for encrypted private directories and similar.13:06
FNDyeah, already done that13:07
jimlovell777aquarius_: Great, glad to hear, thanks.13:10
aquarius_jimlovell777, I, personally, don't know of anything that would stop you using the encrypted private directories stuff to encrypt the contents of your Ubuntu One folder right now, but I could very well be wrong about that! I don't think anyone's tried it; if you try it, we'd all be interested in the results :)13:15
urbanapejblount, you up?13:48
jimlovell777aquarius_: If I have time later I'll give that a shot.13:54
thisfredCardinalFang: how are we doing re: packaging? (lost you on t'other channel) Anything I can help with?14:01
jblounturbanape: Just got to the coffee shop, gimme a sec14:17
urbanapeno worries14:17
jblountMEETING BEGINS15:00
jblountzzz zzz zzzzz zzz meeting zzz z zzzz "me" zzzz15:00
urbanapeme15:00
jblountme15:00
CardinalFangNoooooooooooooo!15:00
teknicome15:00
rodrigo_me15:00
CardinalFangme15:01
dobeyme15:01
vdsme15:02
urbanapeDONE: Getting /files/ functionality in a decent shape, skipping a bunch of tests that were reflecting poorly on our template redesigns.15:03
urbanapeTODO: Fix #444022, which is a karmic stopper - rework the way Bindwood gets oauth creds.15:03
urbanapeBLOCK: None15:03
urbanapejblount: HAMMERTIME15:03
jblountstatik, aquarius_ ?15:03
aquarius_me15:03
jblountDONE: Got most of the static html / css nearly complete #435314 #440135 #440136 #440137 #44013915:03
jblountTODO: Convince do to work on a small bit for the new account page, finish up styling unmocked pages and /files/ ui, get pfibiger to roll out the branch to edge as soon as it lands so mattgriffin (and sarah m) can review the changes.15:03
jblountBLOCKED: TIME15:04
jblountteknico: :)15:04
teknicoDONE: extracted the bugfixing of the contacts web ui, and added a lot more of it, from the "me" record handling branch (#444288); improved the latter branch (#427807); reviewed vds' couchdb watchdaemon branch (#444483)15:04
teknicoTODO: completing the bugfixing of the contacts web ui (#444288); updating the contacts web ui code to the sprint use cases (#440070)15:04
teknicoBLOCK: none15:04
tekniconext: rodrigo_15:04
rodrigo_• DONE: Fixed UTF-8 problems in tomboy notes. Talked with Sandy about joint snowy/u1 test suites. Had kenvandine push tomboy/evo-couchdb/couchdb-glib package updates for karmic. Review couchdb-glib refactoring branch from Mikkel Kamstrup and prepare branching for this branch to land15:04
rodrigo_• TODO: Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. Simplify tomboy syncing config UI. API documentation for couchdb-glib. Missing tomboy's 'Sync Notes' menu item in latest update15:04
rodrigo_• BLOCKED: no15:04
rodrigo_next CardinalFang15:04
CardinalFangDONE: Installed Jaunty and tested that Bug# 423237 is fixed.  Packaged patched couchdb for karmic for backport to hardy for datacenter couchdb server; this sucks.15:04
CardinalFangTODO: Solve hardy erlang-crypto dependency problem.15:04
CardinalFangBLOCKED: My own ignorance of datacenter procedures.15:04
CardinalFangdobey, hej hej!15:04
dobey☺ DONE: Fixed #441039 (prefs 'crash'), lots of bug triage15:05
dobey☹ TODO: Find/fix more bugs, more triage.15:05
dobey☹ BLCK: None.15:05
dobeyvds: ciao15:05
vdsDONE: proposed a branch for quota integration #444483, triaged problem with maker and boto #44405315:05
vdsTODO: land mentioned branch, try to fix the problem with preview and boto15:05
vdsBLOCKED: nope15:05
vdsaquarius_ your turn15:05
aquarius_⚀ DONE: discussed compaction with vds, thisfred; talk to joshuahoover and urbanape about bindwood oauth; help a guy about encryption15:05
aquarius_⚁ TODO: DC-to-cloud replication; fix unknownloginerror; look at oauth-enabling twisted15:05
aquarius_⚂ BLOCKED:15:05
aquarius_⚃ BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 115:05
aquarius_don't think there's anyone next15:05
CardinalFangOh, +TODO: Help pfibiger with spawning.   On-call reviews.15:05
urbanapeah, I, too, am an on-call reviewer today.15:06
urbanapeHopefully, I can wrangle someone of interest to review one-branch-to-rule-them-all since I'm somewhat biased about it.15:06
urbanapeit's a big branch diff, though, unfortunately.15:06
jblountI think we're done with the meeting, eh?15:07
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Martyn1I'm having problems connecting my machine to Ubuntu One -- host is i386, 9.10 beta (current)17:16
Martyn1Every time I try connecting, the site says "Authorize this computer"17:16
Martyn1however, the connection and sync never happens17:17
thisfredCardinalFang: how are we doing re: packaging? (lost you on t'other channel) Anything I can help with? (repeat :)17:23
thisfredow gone here too17:23
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nimhhello chaps and chapesseses18:36
Forza4Lifei just installed ubuntuone on jaunty......dont know quite WHAT to do with it tho...i did upload a file19:11
nimhI was hoping to use it to backup a bunch of photos19:24
nimhbut it's too tied to the Ubuntu One dir19:24
nimhand I don't want to take all the subdir structure19:24
joshuahooverForza4Life: you added files to ~/Ubuntu One?19:24
joshuahoovernimh: in the future, we plan on allowing people to select the folders they want to sync, rather than force everything in the ~/Ubuntu One folder, but for now you have to put things in ~/Ubuntu One19:25
nimhwhat about subdirs under folders?19:27
Forza4Lifeyes joshuahoover19:27
nimhand can I help make this happen?19:27
joshuahooverForza4Life: and you got notification that files were updating?19:27
Forza4Lifevia the online uploader19:28
Forza4Lifeeverytime i go to my ubuntuone page online it says the file is there19:28
Forza4Lifeso im guessing it is working19:28
dobeynimh: you're welcome to sign the contributor agreement and submit branches of code for approval to be merged into the main tree, yes. though the specifying arbitrary folders to sync stuff is not particularly easy to do (or we'd have done it already) :)19:31
nimhright, so I'm at the launchpad sight thingy19:33
dobeynimh: and i'm not sure what you mean about subdirs. choosing to sync a folder would sync everything under it (including sub-folders)19:34
nimhyeah, in my case I don't really want to do that19:35
nimhso, where do I get my hands on this contributor agreement?19:36
jamaltanimh: from your launchpad profile19:36
dobeyhttp://www.canonical.com/contributors19:37
dobeyjamalta: no :)19:37
jamaltadobey: oops sorry, iw as thinking about something entirely differnet19:37
dobeybut there is a link to it on http://launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client as well, in the project description19:37
* jamalta needs to pay more attention to context19:37
nimhcool, so I've got one of those, who is the project lead?19:39
nimhthey needs a copy too19:39
nimhoh, there's a list19:39
nimhnevermind me19:39
nimhrighto, that's sent, how do I get my grubby mitts on code?19:42
dobeyhttp://code.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client19:42
nimhbzr eh?19:43
dobeyaye19:46
nimhwhich branch do I want for the jaunty client?19:47
dobeylp:ubuntuone-client19:47
nimhthat's the main stable jaunty branch?19:48
dobeythere's no special branch for jaunty vs. karmic (and we don't have a stable/1.0 branch yet)19:48
dobeyit's the only branch right now (other than branches people are working on to fix bugs)19:48
dobeywe don't support jaunty with a stable release, just the nightlies/beta PPAs19:49
nimhgotchya19:49
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nimhcool, ssh key nonsense19:51
nimhshafted already19:54
nimhneeds bzr 1.16 or later19:54
nimhjaunty has 1.13.1 or something19:55
dobeyoh right. new format19:55
dobeyhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive/ppa19:56
dobeyyou can install bzr 2.0 from that ppa19:56
nimhyep, on it already19:59
martincaschello everybody20:03
nimhhello there20:03
martincasci need some help with ubuntuone in jaunty... It doesn't launchit when I click on the Ubuntuone icon20:04
martincascI've been looking for this problem, but nothing20:04
nimhyou have a notifaction area?20:07
nimhlike where you can see the volume and networking and stuff?20:07
martincascyes i have it20:09
martincascbut the icon doesn't chow20:09
martincascshow**20:09
dobeyyou don't get any windows at all when you click on the menu item?20:09
martincascNow i'm traying to uninstalling buntuone packages20:09
dobeywhat version of ubuntuone-client-gnome do you have?20:09
dutchieanybody in here know things about evolution-couchdb?20:10
dutchieaquarius_ told me to come here20:10
dobeydutchie: rodrigo is the master of evo-couchdb20:10
aquarius_ah, rodrigo isn't around :(20:10
martincascdobey, my version is 0.96 + r23320:10
dutchieah well, it's not critical20:11
thisfredhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMmG9TrYyAE20:11
nimhhrm, what's with the libnautilus-extensions-dev20:11
dobeymartincasc: do you already have a browser open?20:12
martincascdobey, my version is clicking on System > Preferencces > Ubuntu One20:12
martincascyes20:12
martincascFirefox20:12
dobeymartincasc: if you click on that it should open the preferences menu item20:12
martincascyes20:12
nimhit wants to install a kazillion .debs20:12
dobeynimh: to build the nautilus extension20:12
nimhfairy muff20:12
dobeynimh: well to develop, you need a development environment :)20:13
nimhyeah, I'm down with it20:13
nimhfresh install on this laptop is all20:13
martincascwell, I just click on Ubuntuone icon from Internet menu, and appear the windows with a few options, Sow Icon, Conecto on start and the option for limit the badnwitch usage20:14
dobeyyeah. you get used to doing it after a while :)20:14
dobeymartincasc: then the applet is already running20:14
martincascyes, but the icon on the notification area show me not conection20:14
dobeymartincasc: it shows it's not connected, or it doesn't show up?20:15
nimhthe day I figured out that when configure was moaning about libsomething missing I had to install libsomething *and* libsomething-dev was a good one20:15
martincascand if I move any file to the Ubuntu One folder in my home, the file doesn't syn or the icon in the notification area desappear20:15
martincascdobey, giveme  1 minute and I'll showyou a screen20:17
dobeyok20:18
martincascdobey, here you have http://i37.tinypic.com/2m64isj.png20:19
dobeyok20:19
dobeymartincasc: click on the icon in the notification area for ubuntu one, and choose "Connect"20:19
martincascif I click with the left mouse's key, appera a windows for report a problem20:20
martincascand cith the right click I have 3 options, an not for conect20:20
dobeyok, it's weird that the icon is the disconnected icon and not the error icon20:21
dobeymartincasc: please follow the steps to report a problem then :)20:21
martincascdobey, I am on my Ubuntu One folder an I click on the Conecto button, but the Ubuntu one icon in the notification area desappear20:21
martincascdobey, I did it twice20:21
martincascbut I havo no idea where is my report for lokk for some solution20:22
dobeyyou filed a bug?20:22
martincascyes, this bug twice20:22
martincascI have this bug since a motnh20:22
martincascmaybe more20:22
nimhso20:22
nimhI just had that happening20:23
martincascto meny update comes since that, but no solution20:23
nimhI had to killall ubuntuone-client-applet20:23
nimhand start it again20:23
nimhand it worked20:23
martincascnimh, so you kill the applet and that was the solution?20:24
nimhI killed the client-applet, yes20:24
nimhand then I restarted it20:24
nimhand it seems to stick around this time20:24
martincascactually I don't have the applet at the system starup beacuse the system freezes20:24
dobeymartincasc: if you go to http://launchpad.net/people/+me and click on "Bugs" at the top, you'll be able to see any bugs related to you20:24
nimhcan you see it in 'ps aux' ?20:25
martincascdobey, I'll checkout20:25
nimhokay, so autogen.sh runs20:25
nimhconfig is happy, tells me to make20:25
nimhERROR: Not found: /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/storageprotocol20:25
dobeynimh: re-run configure and do --with-protocol=/usr/share/pyshared20:26
nimhokay, 'cause when I try to install ubuntuone-storage-protocol it trys to get rid of a whole bunch of stuff I just installed for ubuntuone20:27
dobeynimh: the package is python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol20:27
martincascdobey, only this 2 bugs appear in my account20:27
martincaschttps://bugs.launchpad.net/~martincasco20:27
martincascnothing about ubuntuone20:28
nimhnope, no love dobey20:28
dobeymartincasc: then i presume you never finished the process to file the bug20:28
dobeynimh: you've already got it installed i presume20:28
nimhyup20:28
nimhERROR: Not found: /usr/shared/pyshared/ubuntuone/storageprotocol20:29
dobeyhuh20:29
nimhthat dir exists20:29
nimhit's full of goodness20:29
dobeyinteresting20:29
statiknimh, welcome! awesome to have new hackers20:29
martincascdobey, I'll report again20:29
nimhhey statik20:29
dobeynimh: do make clean, then re-run configure, then try make again :)20:29
nimhnah20:30
nimhproblem in the script20:30
nimhif [ ! -d /usr/shared/pyshared/ubuntuone/storageprotocol ]; then \20:30
nimh /usr/shared20:30
nimhnot /usr/share/20:30
dobeyoh20:30
dobeyduh, i can't read20:30
dobeynimh: you made a typo when doing --with-protocol then :)20:30
nimhha ha20:30
nimhdork20:30
nimhbingo20:31
dobeymartincasc: please do. thanks!20:31
martincascdobey, there is samothing wrong20:31
martincascI'm checkinout the information in my account in ubuntuone webs20:31
nimhokay, looks like I can build the branch okay20:32
martincascthere is not computer asigned to my account20:32
martincascand I dont understand why, because for some time I use the client20:32
dobeymartincasc: right. that should happen when you run the applet the first time. it will open a browser window and ask you to "Allow this computer"20:32
martincascthen I by an NVIDIA grafic car and then it doesn't work anymore20:32
martincascdibey, yes, i did that...20:33
martincascand right now there is no computer asigned to my account, really estranged20:33
dobeymartincasc: i don't know why there wouldn't be anything listed in the web page if you've associated the computer. unless you removed them20:33
martincascno20:34
martincasci didn't20:34
martincascthe report problem proceses finished20:34
dobeyso you are at a web page in your browser for the bug you just filed?20:35
martincasci'm refreshing the web page, but the report doesn't appear20:35
martincascjaja20:35
martincascthis is crazy20:35
nimhso, I'm guessing the syncdaemon is where it keeps the Ubuntu One dir synced up20:40
nimhand where I might want to add some way of following other dirs20:41
dobeyyes20:41
nimhI noticed there were some requests for following symlinks, which is probably easier for me to start with, right?20:41
dobeyi don't know. but probably not20:42
statiknimh: something to keep in mind is that we are approaching karmic final freeze, so we're pretty tightly focused on fixing the most critical errors right now. it might mean that it's tougher to get discussion on new features than it will be in a couple of weeks, but don't let that discourage you20:42
statiknimh: we want to make ubuntu one able to manage any arbitrary directory in your home dir, i think it's separate from symlinks20:43
statikthats a feature we want for lucid20:43
nimhstatik, no problems, I was just looking at the first thing it didn't do that I wanted it to do20:43
nimhbut if you think I could be more helpful with something else...20:43
statikthats a great way to approach it, i just wanted to explain that most of the core devs are heads down with fixing bugs and getting the servers to scale20:44
dobey493 open bugs... i'm sure you can help with a few :)20:44
nimhthing is I have jaunty on the laptop, I suppose I should get karmic going?20:45
dobeyi only have jaunty on my new laptop (but i have to due to the video card)20:46
dobeyright now is probably a bad time to upgrade to karmic (very very slow to update)20:46
nimhso I can fix bugs for karmic on jaunty?20:47
dobeyyes, you can fix them on fedora too if you really wanted to :)20:47
martincascdobey, I just uninstall ubuntuone and re-installit using the oficial web steps20:47
martincascbut nothing20:47
martincascwhen I lunch the apli, my browser douesn't showme the web page for asign a computer20:48
dobeymartincasc: right. you should file a bug. i am not sure what you or doing or why you aren't getting the bug filed, as i can't watch you do it from here, but i'd have to see the log info from the bug to be able to help any further20:49
jcastromartincasc: what browser?20:50
martincascfirefox 3.5, then I tried with firefox 3.0.14, and I'll try with chromium and Opera if it necesary20:50
doktoreashello folks20:51
martincascdobey, if I report the problem again, y can give you a copy of the report screen, it will help?20:51
doktoreasdoes ubuntuone allow a public folder like the one of dropbox?20:51
dobeydoktoreas: not yet, but i think we'll be working on something like that for the next cycle20:52
doktoreasthank you dobey20:53
nimhte he, someone broke the server20:53
statiknimh: we're just restarting the DB right now to apply some config changes20:54
statikback online in a minute20:54
nimhall good20:54
nimhjust thought it might have been my black thumb or something ;)20:54
nimhyou know that if you meet someone along the road who claims to be Buddha you should kill him?20:55
dobeymartincasc: when you report the problem, it should open your browser and have you do some things in launchpad's bugs interface20:55
dobeynimh: i think there are enough "official likenesses" of buddha to be able to determine fraud or not20:56
martincascwell, finally my browser showme that page, and I'm completing the report XD20:57
nimhsoftware buddha20:57
martincascdobey, here is my report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/44485021:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 444850 in ubuntuone-client "If I have Ubuntuone-clien in my system startup, my system freezes, But When I clik on the Ubuntu One icon from Internet Menu, It doesn't conect, an I don't now why, in my account it doesn't appear anymore my PC asigned. " [Undecided,New]21:04
martincascsorry for my english21:04
nimhmartincasc: What's inside your Ubuntu One folder?21:10
martincascSome doc files21:10
nimhdo you still have the 'Shared With Me' folder?21:10
martincasc3 doc files and 1 png files21:10
martincascyes, I'm still have it with an X icon21:11
martincascon it21:11
nimhdo you have a .local dir in your home?21:11
nimh(ls ~/.local)21:12
martincascnimh, yes21:12
nimhand .local/share/ubuntuone21:12
martincascand on it it's ubuntuone folder21:12
martincascand on it, there are two mmore folders21:13
martincascshares with an X on it, and syncdeamon21:13
nimhshares and syncdaemon right?21:13
dobeythere's a problem with the syncdaemon on your machine it looks like21:13
martincascnimh, yes, thatp's right21:13
martincascdobey, ??21:13
martincascinside syncdaemon there are a lot off folders21:14
martincascDo I delete somthing?21:15
dobeyyes, as it should. i've asked someone else who can better help with your bug to look at it21:16
dobeyno21:16
martincascdobey, ok21:16
verterokdobey: the X in the folder (I assume in nautilus) means read only...right? :)21:17
dobeyi think so21:17
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dobeyverterok: the _load_metadata_5 failure is what i'm worried about though :)21:17
* verterok looks at the bug report21:18
verterokdobey: that version of fsm metadata don't exists21:19
dobeyverterok: i presumed that's what the error meant. :)21:19
verterokmartincasc: could you check the what is the content of ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/metadata_version ?21:20
nimhwhen you guys talk about metadata is that all the stuff under .local/share/ubuntuone ?21:20
martincascGuillo right? Spanish??21:21
verterokmartincasc: echo $(cat ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/metadata_version ?)21:21
martincascok21:21
verterokmartincasc: speak spanish, but I'm from argentina21:21
martincascme too21:22
martincascfrom santa ffe21:22
martincascfe**21:22
verteroknimh: metadata is all the stuff inside: ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/21:22
martincascnice to meet yo21:22
verterokmidkniht: ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/shares are your shares21:22
leonelhello...21:22
verterokmartincasc: I'm from Bs. As., nice to meet you too21:22
martincascif I paste that command line in the terminal it sais21:23
martincascthaththe directory doesn't exist21:23
leonelon one jaunty system  I've got an empty  Ubuntu One  folder  and  a  Ubuntu One.u1conflict   ..  all my files are on one.ubuntu.com/files  and  in my Ubuntu One on a Karmic system21:23
verterokmartincasc: this command? "echo $(cat ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/metadata_version)"21:23
martincascyes21:24
martincascI open the metadata file and it sais 521:24
leonelIf i remove  Ubuntu One  and rename  the Ubuntu  one.u1conflict to  Ubuntu One  on the Jaunty system will be OK ??21:24
verterokmartincasc: so, you have that directory? :)21:24
martincascyes, I have it21:25
verterokleonel: do you want to do a clean start in the jaunty system?21:25
martincascbut the command doesn't work21:25
nimhte he21:25
leonelverterok: not clean just restore the files and  keep on sync21:25
verterokmartincasc: ok, so. I don't know how you got a metadata version that don't exists yet :)21:25
martincasci'll show you a screen21:26
martincascgiveme a minute21:26
verterokmartincasc: do you have older log files in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log ?21:26
verterokmartincasc: np21:26
martincascleet me see21:26
verterokleonel: If you don't have any new files in that machine, you can do that.21:26
martincascverterok, yes, I have that folder and some files on it21:27
leonelverterok: so .. remove all   and make a new  Ubuntu One  and the  Karmic system and  one.ubuntu.com files  will be untouched  just the jaunty system will be populated with the files ?21:28
verterokleonel: no, if you remove all, syncdaemon is going to think that you removed those files and probably delete then frmo the server :)21:28
martincascverterok, this is the screen capture from my .local folder, here appear metadata_version http://i34.tinypic.com/24xl2ya.png21:28
leonelverterok: so the best thing to sync all ?21:29
verterokleonel: you have an empty Ubuntu One folde right?21:30
leonelon Jaunty yes21:30
verterokleonel: quit the client, then: rmdir ~/Ubuntu\ One; mv ~/Ubuntu\ One.u1conflict ~/Ubuntu\ One21:30
verterokleonel: and start the client again21:30
verterokleonel: the UbuntuOne.u1conflict folder have all your files inside?21:31
verterokmartincasc: ok, please check if you have this directory ~/.cache/ubuntune/syncdaemon21:31
leonelverterok: done ..21:31
verterokleonel: it should start syncing again21:32
leonelverterok: now the ubuntuone applet does not let me open the Folder21:32
verterokleonel: it's connected?21:32
martincascverterok, no, only there are 2 folders, log and partials21:33
nimhdobey: this looks like something easy I can start off with: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/41888221:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 418882 in ubuntuone-client "syncdaemon doesn't save my settings" [High,Confirmed]21:33
nimhis someone already working on it?21:33
leonelstarted the client and moved  the Ubuntu One  to  Ubuntu One.u1conflict again ..21:33
verterokmartincasc: ok, that;s good :)21:33
verterokleonel: hmm, sounds like broken metadata, what version do you have installed in the jaunty box21:34
dobeynimh: i don't know how easy that is. syncdaemon hackers might know.21:34
verterokleonel: also, are you using ubuntu one sice the early versions?21:34
leoneldid the rm ad mv  again  and its  syncing .21:34
leonel..21:34
leonelverterok: yes too early ..21:34
verterokleonel: ok, I've seen some cases of broken metadata, mostly on very old clients21:35
verterokleonel: as syncdaemon wasn't making sure that the data saved to disk actually hitted disk :/21:36
martincascverterok, Do I do somthing with the log files?21:36
verterokmartincasc: yes. please: grep for  _load_metadata_21:37
martincasc??21:37
verterokmartincasc: yes. please: grep _load_metadata_ syncdaemon.log.*21:37
verterokmartincasc: execute: "grep _load_metadata_ syncdaemon.log.*"  in a terminal :)21:38
dobeyalright, i gotta run. later all.21:39
verteroklater dobey21:39
martincascverterok, I pasted that command, and it sais that the file dowsn't exist21:39
verterokmartincasc: execute: "grep _load_metadata_ ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log.*"  in a terminal :)21:40
verterokmartincasc: sorry, I missed the full path21:40
martincascok, done21:40
leonelverterok:  placed a file on  Karmic  and got uploaded to  one.ubuntu.com/files21:41
leonelverterok:  but not to  jaunty21:41
martincascverterok, you need to know what said in the terminal?21:41
verterokmartincasc: yes, please21:41
leonelverterok: then placed a file on jaunty and  no sync alt all from or to  jaunty..21:41
martincasc/home/casco/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log.2009-10-06_17-09-22:    load_method = getattr(self, "_load_metadata_%s" % md_version)21:42
martincasc/home/casco/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log.2009-10-06_17-09-22:AttributeError: 'FileSystemManager' object has no attribute '_load_metadata_5'21:42
martincasc/home/casco/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log.2009-10-06_17-11-46:    load_method = getattr(self, "_load_metadata_%s" % md_version)21:42
martincasc/home/casco/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log.2009-10-06_17-11-46:AttributeError: 'FileSystemManager' object has no attribute '_load_metadata_5'21:42
martincasc/home/casco/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log.2009-10-06_17-32-17:    load_method = getattr(self, "_load_metadata_%s" % md_version)21:42
martincasc/home/casco/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log.2009-10-06_17-32-17:AttributeError: 'FileSystemManager' object has no attribute '_load_metadata_5'21:42
martincasc/home/casco/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log.2009-10-06_17-35-42:    load_method = getattr(self, "_load_metadata_%s" % md_version)21:42
martincasc/home/casco/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log.2009-10-06_17-35-42:AttributeError: 'FileSystemManager' object has no attribute '_load_metadata_5'21:42
martincasc/home/casco/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log.2009-10-06_17-35-43:    load_method = getattr(self, "_load_metadata_%s" % md_version)21:42
martincasc/home/casco/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log.2009-10-06_17-35-43:AttributeError: 'FileSystemManager' object has no attribute '_load_metadata_5'21:42
martincascthat's it21:42
verterokmartincasc: ok, thanks. the next time. please use a service like:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ;)21:42
martincascups, really sorry21:43
verterokleonel: could you pastebin the last 100 lines of ~/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.log (in the jaunty box)21:43
verterokleonel: the karmic -> server -> jaunty, not syncing might be a issue with our servers, I think there is a bug about it21:43
verterokmartincasc: np :)21:43
martincaschttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/287283/21:44
martincascthere you have21:44
verterokmartincasc: thx :)21:44
martincasc:)21:44
verterokmartincasc: so, the log file when the metadata version was first updated to version 5 (that don'y exists) got lost in the rotation :(21:45
leonelverterok: karmic ->server is ok21:45
leonelverterok:  jaunty  does not upload or download any..21:45
verteroklamalex: yes, the notifications to the jaunty client21:45
verteroklamalex: sorry, leonel ^21:45
verterokleonel: ok, please check the log file21:45
martincascverterok, so the metadata version is 5, and It doesn't exist?21:46
verterokleonel: that will give us more clues about what's going on21:46
leonelverterok: what I'm looking for ?21:46
verterokmartincasc: no, the version of metadata is 421:46
martincascif I open the metadata file it sais 521:46
martincasc:S21:46
verterokleonel: please pastebin the las 100 lines, but I'm looking for ERROR messages21:47
verterokmartincasc: exactly, too weird21:47
verterokmartincasc: it's a impossible situation...21:47
martincascverterok, and if I change the version or the content of the metadata version?21:48
verterokmartincasc: you shouldn't touch anything of the metadata stuff (if the normal state of things) :)21:48
verterokmartincasc: you can fix it by: 1) quit the client, 2) echo 4 > ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/metadata_version21:49
martincasctoday I've quit the client21:49
martincascsudo aptitude purge ubuntuone-client-gnome ??21:49
verterokmartincasc: no, not needed21:49
martincascso?21:50
verterokmartincasc: do this: 1) quit the client, 2) echo 4 > ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/metadata_version21:50
verterokmartincasc: after that start the client21:50
verterokmartincasc: that's all21:50
martincascok21:50
leonelverterok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/287291/21:51
martincasci'll try too start the client21:51
verterokleonel: the last line: ---- MARK (state: START_WORKING_ON_METADATA_WITH_CONTQ; queues: metadata: 133; content: 58; hash: 0,21:52
martincascverterok, nothing21:53
martincascI try to start the clien form internet menu, nothing appear21:53
verterokleonel: that means that the daemon have some work to do (the metadata and content queues)21:53
martincascin /home/casco/Ubuntu One I clik on the Conectar button21:54
martincascand it sais Conectando but nothing happen21:54
verterokmartincasc: please pastebin the contents of ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log21:54
verterokleonel: can you check if the daemon it's writting stuff on the log file?21:55
martincascok, here you have http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/287298/21:55
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verterokmartincasc: let me say this21:56
verterokWTF??21:56
martincascjaja21:56
martincascin spanish? jajaja21:56
martincascLPMQLP21:56
verterokmartincasc: not yet21:56
verterok:)21:57
verterokmartincasc: just to be sure, please run this in a terminal: cat  /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/filesystem_manager.py | head -n 35 | tail -n 321:58
verterokit should say: METADATA_VERSION = "4"21:58
martincascyes21:59
martincascMETADATA_VERSION = "4"21:59
verterokmartincasc: so, you can se the metadata version is actually 4 :)21:59
martincascthat is what the terminal say21:59
* verterok don't lie21:59
martincascyes, but the log  sais it's 522:00
verterokmartincasc: not only that, it's being changed to 522:00
martincascso, what can I do?22:02
verterokmartincasc: last try :)22:02
verterokmartincasc: do this: 1) quit the client, 2) echo 4 > ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/metadata_version22:02
verterokmartincasc: but don't start the client22:02
leonelverterok: is writting22:02
verterokmartincasc: 3) cat ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/metadata_version22:02
verterokmartincasc: check that the content is 422:03
leonelverterok: the last date is according to the system22:03
martincascit sais that the version is 422:03
verterokleonel: so, looks like it's working. at least 58 files are going to be uploaded22:03
leonelverterok: and it will take time ??22:04
martincascverterok, now if I open de metadata file, it eais 422:04
martincascsays ** sorry22:04
verterokleonel: depending on server load, but it should finish eventually :)22:05
verterokleonel: also dpeending on your bandwidth ;)22:05
verterokleonel: do you have the ubuntuone-client-tools package installed?22:05
verterokmartincasc: ok. that's gooood22:06
verterokmartincasc: please check if there is a syncdaemon instance running: ps aux | grep ubuntuone22:06
verterokmartincasc: in a terminal ^22:06
martincaschttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/287310/22:07
martincascverterok, there is pastebin22:07
* verterok looks22:07
martincascshould I have to install ubuntuone-client-tools?22:07
verterokmartincasc: isn't required :)22:08
martincascverterok, ok22:08
verterokmartincasc: ok, so. if you start the client it fails again with the same error?22:08
martincasclet me see22:08
martincascif I click on the Ubuntuone icon from internet menu, nothing happened, but If I check from System monitor, appear ubuntuone-client-gnome and it's sleeping22:09
verterokleonel: in the -tools package there is a CLI tool to interact with the daemon, u1sdtool, you can check what's up/downloading with: 'u1sdtool --current-transfers'22:10
martincascverterok, I tried with ubuntuone-client-applet from terminal and never launchit22:10
martincascterminal still working and working and working22:11
verterokmartincasc: try to start the daemon manually: /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon --debug22:11
martincascverterok, noting, and here is the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/287314/22:12
verterokmartincasc: so, the same error :/22:12
verterokmartincasc: it's impossible!!! :)22:12
martincascand now the metadata version it's 5 again ¬¬22:13
verterokmartincasc: do you have any files in the Ubuntu One folder?22:13
martincascright now, no, I move them 15 minutes ago22:14
verterokmartincasc: ok. so, we have a bug we can track later. do you want to try starting with a clean environment? (at least you are going to be able to use it :)22:15
martincascverterok, how ca I do that?22:16
verterokmartincasc: I'll guide you :)22:16
martincascok22:16
verterokmartincasc: rm -Rf ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/ ~/.cache/ubuntuone/22:16
martincascdine22:17
verterokmartincasc: and: rmdir ~/Ubuntu\ One22:17
martincascdone**22:17
verterokmartincasc: check in the system monitor if there is any ubuntuone-* process running22:17
verterokmartincasc: or: ps aux | grep ubuntuone22:18
martincascok, here you have pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/287319/22:19
martincaschave error from the second comand22:19
martincascrmdir.....22:19
verterokmartincasc: perfect22:19
verterokmartincasc: rmdir?22:19
martincascthis command: rmdir ~/Ubuntu\ One givene this error: rmdir: No se pudo eliminar «/home/casco/Ubuntu One»: El directorio no está vacío22:20
verterokmartincasc: so you still have files in that directory?22:21
martincascMy Ubuntu One folder had another folder bl¡roken22:21
martincascso I delete manually and then the command work perfecto22:21
martincascso?22:21
verterokmartincasc: ok22:22
verterokmartincasc: now start the daemon from the terminal: /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon --debug22:22
verterokmartincasc: if this don't work (same metadata 5 version error, I think I have one last option: apt-get purge everything, cleanup the metadata and start over)22:25
verterokmartincasc: in the hope that the installation is broked22:25
martincascthe pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/287326/22:25
martincascthe terminal still runing I don't know what22:26
verterokmartincasc: goood! it's working!22:26
martincascand still workin22:26
martincascbut the icon doesn't show22:27
verterokmartincasc: right, this is the daemon only22:27
verterokmartincasc: click the in menu, the icon should appear22:27
martincascok22:27
martincascyes!!!22:27
verterokmartincasc: great, now. just click quit the icon and the daemon running in the terminal should be stopped too22:28
martincascfinally my browser redirectme to the web page for adding my pc22:28
verterokmartincasc: oh, ok. do the auth first :)22:28
martincascI did't touch anything and terminal stops22:29
martincascand the ubuntuone icon its fine naw22:29
verterokmartincasc: stops?22:29
martincascand appear a notification that my files where sync22:29
verterokmartincasc: ok, it didn't stopped, it's running22:30
verterokmartincasc: so, you finished the auth process?22:30
martincascwel22:30
martincascfrom the icon I quit ubutuone22:30
verterokmartincasc: please quit the icon, and start it again to check that it's working22:30
martincascand launchit againd from the internet menu22:30
verterokmartincasc: yes, great!22:30
martincascand its workin22:30
martincascI have 2 aplis running22:30
verterokmartincasc: cool, I'll update the bug with all this22:31
martincascubuntu-client-applet and ubuntuone-syncdeamon22:31
martincascsos un capo22:31
martincascsabelo!!22:31
martincascthank you very much!!!!22:31
martincascwell, I'm traing, the Ubuntu One short cut in nautilus appear again and sync well the file22:33
verterokmartincasc: heh, np :)22:33
martincascI'll restart the system to see if it's still workin22:33
martincascI'll be in 522:33
verterokmartincasc: ok22:33
martincascverterok, everything it's workin very well22:40
martincascthank you very much!!22:40
leonelverterok: u1dstool --current-transfers    says  0 uploads and downloads  and the last file i've placed on jaunty still not synched22:40
verterokmartincasc: great to know22:41
martincascgracias hermano, thanks bro22:41
martincascI have to go, Hope see you again22:42
martincascregards and thansk again!!22:42
verterokmartincasc: de nada!22:42
verterokleonel: hmm, weird indeed. could you tell if it's using the network?22:42
leonelverterok: how I can tell that ?23:04
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verterokleonel: with the system monitor23:12
verterokleonel: in the system load table23:13
leonelverterok:  the net is idle23:33
verterokleonel: in teresting, did you tried disconnecting and connecting the client again?23:33
verterok*interesting23:33
leonelconnecting traffic shows and idle again23:34
leonelverterok:  is there a way to "remove" all the settings and the Ubuntu One folder then start over with that system ?23:38
verterokleonel: yes there is. isn't nice but there is one :)23:39
verterokleonel: you might want to backup the contents of ~/Ubuntu One23:40
verterokleonel: 1) backup! backup! backup!  :)23:40
verterok2) quit the client23:40
verterok3) make sure there isn't any ubuntuone-* process still running23:41
verterok4) backup ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/ ~/.cache/ubuntuone/ (just in case), e.g: tar czf ubuntuone-dotdirs.tar.gz  ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/ ~/.cache/ubuntuone/23:42
verterok5) rm -Rf ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/ ~/.cache/ubuntuone/23:42
verterok6) make sure you alreay have a backup of any important files/dirs in ~/Ubuntu\ One, and: rm -Rf ~/Ubuntu\ One23:43
verterok7) start the client again23:43
verterokleonel: ^23:43
leoneldon't delete Ubuntu One  dir ??23:44
leoneldeleted23:44
verterokleonel: step 6 :)23:44
leonelsorry23:44
verteroknp23:44
leonelI've  renamed the dir .. to  ubuntuone.bak23:44
leonelso starting the client ...23:44
verterokleonel: both? ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/ ~/.cache/ubuntuone/ ?23:45
leonelyes  backed up and removed23:45
verterokleonel: ok, proceed :)23:47
leonelverterok: files are comming ...23:49
leonelverterok:  90files  updated23:53
leonelverterok:  thanks ..23:53
verterokleonel: np :)23:54

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